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Shreddette
09-12-2005, 04:01 PM
Ok seriously before someone kills me... I know he wouldn't but if he had to choose, who would it be. Hell maybe he would like one of them a little bit even though he wouldn't think twice about killing them.
I say Raph. The temper.
Maybe Don for his smarts. Shredder would maybe appreciate that if anything.
Weapon X
09-12-2005, 04:04 PM
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3007/whatdidyoujustpost5jh.jpg
Ummm, I guess I'd have to go with Raph. :lol:
Leonardo_
09-12-2005, 04:06 PM
Didn't he want to have Leonardo in his clan??
Weapon X
09-12-2005, 04:07 PM
Im going by old toon.
Shreddette
09-12-2005, 04:08 PM
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3007/whatdidyoujustpost5jh.jpg
Ummm, I guess I'd have to go with Raph. :lol:
Hahha, I know I know... hell, it makes ya think though no? I think it's kinda interesting.
I'm going by old toon too. People feel free to use other Turtle Universes, just specify.
Type 97 Chi-ha
09-12-2005, 04:11 PM
I do remember he originally offered to let all four Turtles into his Foot Clan when he first met them.
Weapon X
09-12-2005, 04:13 PM
Hahha, I know I know... hell, it makes ya think though no? I think it's kinda interesting.
Ohhh yeah, I think it's a great/funny idea, just hope no one takes it too seriously. :sick:
Shreddette
09-12-2005, 04:17 PM
Ohhh yeah, I think it's a great/funny idea, just hope no one takes it too seriously. :sick:
No kiddin' :o
Weapon X
09-12-2005, 04:20 PM
Some people just look too far into the topic and tend to ruin it, but as long as there none of that this could be a very entertaining poll for some good discussion. :)
Shreddette
09-12-2005, 04:21 PM
Some people just look too far into the topic and tend to ruin it, but as long as there none of that this could be a very entertaining poll for some good discussion. :)
Thanks, I thought so ;)
zkarlette
09-12-2005, 04:24 PM
I think Leo cause he could use him as ally
Weapon X
09-12-2005, 04:30 PM
The reason I say Raph is because when I think of Shredders favorite I think of the one that could be the most like him in a sense and the sarcasm doesn't hurt either. :lol:
Sewer Bull
09-12-2005, 04:35 PM
Can I create "Krang's favourite turtle" thread? :P ;)
Weapon X
09-12-2005, 04:36 PM
Yes hurry up and do it.
Sewer Bull
09-12-2005, 04:37 PM
I'm afraid the mods would tear me apart for that. :|
Weapon X
09-12-2005, 04:38 PM
I think theres been closer calls. :P
Shadow Leonardo
09-12-2005, 04:42 PM
Toss up between Raph and Leo due to that they're the most skilled. Plus with Leo's skills and Raph's agressive nature is what makes Shredder respect them.
Sewer Bull
09-12-2005, 04:42 PM
I wonder after which "Someone's favourite turtle" thread the authorities might lose their patience... "Ninjara's favourite turtle"? ;)
Weapon X
09-12-2005, 04:43 PM
"Venuses Favorite Turtle?". :dead:
Shreddette
09-12-2005, 04:50 PM
"Venuses Favorite Turtle?". :dead:
Why that would be Jarrah White. :P
Ryona
09-12-2005, 04:50 PM
I say Leonardo. Like Leo2 said, it was Leo that Shredder sent a note to to try to get Leo to work with him. Leo is the ideal warrior, and Shredder knows this.
Think about it... If Leo was evil, he would be Shredder himself. Cool, determand, deadly skillful, seeking to be the best/most powerful, they both lead their own clan. Leo is like the "light/good" version of Shredder, where as Shredder is like the "dark/evil" version of Leo.
Donnie would be a second choice since not only is Donnie a fearsome warrior, but he's also technologicaly brilliant which would make him a good replacement for both Hun and Baxter.
I can't really see Shredder wanting Raph and Mikey since they're both too wild and lack focus. If anything, I would see Shredder only using them as desposable warriors in a futile battle for some kind of grand plan.
DrSpengler
09-12-2005, 05:21 PM
I voted Michelangelo since he's the weakest of all four turtles and therefor the easiest to defeat (Leo trains the hardest, Raph has his temper, Don makes weapons, Mike...cracks jokes?). So yeah, Shredder probably likes him best since he poses the smallest threat.
cowabunga14
09-12-2005, 05:51 PM
I'd say Donatello cuz Shredder could convince Don to work for him and have him build his Foot Clan contraptions. That'd be intrestin' to see. I bet Shredder would be happy to have the Turtle with the brains work for him. I wonder what Don would think of that? Hmmm...
Toss up between Raph and Leo due to that they're the most skilled. Plus with Leo's skills and Raph's agressive nature is what makes Shredder respect them.
hmmmm..i dont know if they are most the skilled....Mikey is a helluva fighter.... (he did win the Battle Nexus Tourn. :P )
Masked Ninja
09-12-2005, 06:44 PM
I could see him wanting any of the Turtles... Leo for his skills, Raph for his anger (Anger...leads to hate...hate...leads to suffering...*couldn't resist, sorry*)
But I'm gonna go Donny. Especially for the old toon. Shredder's goons always come up with these sucky inventions, when Don kicks his butt with the Turtle Blimp and other similar items...
Leonardo_
09-12-2005, 06:53 PM
I have got a comic in which Don had got a memory lost and shredder was to improve Dons abilities in inventing a killing machine against his brothers.
Sage Ninja
09-12-2005, 09:55 PM
Classic Cartoon:
Donatello all the way! think about it Donatello is easily the most useful of all the four turtles because of his formiddable intellect and engineering skills. Heck If Shredder recruted Donatello he wouldn't be dependent on Krang for anything because Donatello could do everything Krang can do only better. And he wouldn't need Bebop and Rocksteady either becuase Donatello is a proficient warrior all his own.
However Donatello as a partner with Shredder wouldn't work out on a full time basis. Mostly because I think Donatello would evetually over though Shredder and go solo.
Because lets face it people, Donatello from the classic series had some shades of grey to his character. He had a deffinate dark side of the mad scientist varity. I could very easily picture him as a villan in the old series. Don't believe me? catch the episode where he makes a clone of himself, and he is all evil. He was an arrogant prick, and he had every right to be. That clone was apart of Donatello and mirrored his personaity and nature, so I think its safe to say that Doantello from the old series had a hiden evil side to his character; Don't let the quite geek routine fool you!
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New Series Leonardo would be the one that Shredder would probably pick because of his strong skills as a warrior.
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Mirage book
Raphael for all the obvious reasons. Raphael has allot of dark greys to his character.
Jester
09-12-2005, 10:03 PM
I'm sayin' Leo all the way. Shredder respects his dedication and his heart. he wanted to draft Leo as a mamber of the foot...heck even OT Shredder wanted the guys on his team. But I still sway with Leo, Donnie as a close second. Raph's probably too rash and Mikey's too childish, but leo's ninja prowless and Donnie's brains would make Shredder see them as the bigger threats.
Sage Ninja
09-12-2005, 10:35 PM
ahh...Michaelangelo is ever the one turtle that is always undrestimated and disregarded as being threatless in every medium **shakes head**. i really think that if push came to shove that Mike could be a threat. And I beleive this about him in every incarntion of him too (yes even the classic toon).
The fact that every one underestimates him would give him a hellava advantage, since no one would be expect out of him.
Jester
09-12-2005, 10:41 PM
He was underestimated in the Battle Nexus...and look what happened...:P
The Stryker
09-12-2005, 11:00 PM
ROB VAN DAM.
I thought Shredder hated all of em....he wanted to EAT THEM
Shreddette
09-13-2005, 12:28 AM
ROB VAN DAM.
I thought Shredder hated all of em....he wanted to EAT THEM
Heheh yeah, and I toally think Michelangelo's meat would go best in a gooseneck barnacle bisque. *slurp*
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
09-13-2005, 08:16 AM
Well i think you've all made a good point about each turtle being Shredder's fave collectively. But i think Shredder's fave would be Donatello as he is the turtle most likliest to turn to the dark side(according to the old cartoon). Shredder is obsessed of making new devices to destroy the turtles and Donatello would satisfy them with his superior devices. Also, Donatello is the least emotional of the lot, being logical, and definetely the first or second most mentally unstable turtle. I think Leonardo and Mikey are too fixed in their ways.
Jo269976
09-13-2005, 08:57 AM
probobly leo
remix17
09-13-2005, 03:06 PM
Old Toon:
Well, after hearing some arguments, I have to go with Donatello.
One day as I watched "Invasion of the Punk Frogs" I realized how cynical Don is, how realistic and not so eager to trust he is compared to his brothers. When Leonardo wanted to grant the frogs mercy, Donatello wanted to leave them behind to the mayor's squad--"Maybe you haven't been keeping up on current events, Leo, but they aren't exactly on our side."
Plus, Don is smart. Not only does this make him a good ally, it gives him an edge, like Sage Ninja said. I don't care how good a person you are, all geniuses enjoy being geniuses a little too much at one point in their life. It can give a feeling of superiority.
New Toon
Well, I think we all know the answer to that. :lol: The Shredder obviously sought out Leonardo because he as the most physically trained, the most devoted, what have you. He takes his practices to a "real" level in a way Don or Raph or Mikey don't. For them it's a way of fighting. For Leonardo, it's a way of life.
Spitfire
09-13-2005, 04:07 PM
Well i think you've all made a good point about each turtle being Shredder's fave collectively. But i think Shredder's fave would be Donatello as he is the turtle most likliest to turn to the dark side(according to the old cartoon). Shredder is obsessed of making new devices to destroy the turtles and Donatello would satisfy them with his superior devices. Also, Donatello is the least emotional of the lot, being logical, and definetely the first or second most mentally unstable turtle. I think Leonardo and Mikey are too fixed in their ways.
Leo and Raph would be way more likely to turn before Don. Just look how Leo acts his mind is set in such a mood where he could fight without a reason. I doubt Shredder would have a chance to take advantage of this though unless he found a way to set something up where he could prove himself to Leo to trick him.
The Stryker
09-14-2005, 06:03 AM
I would think that Mikey would be the one to "go bad"
everyone expects Leo and Raph to be the ones to go bad but i think if Shredder had the time and really F*cked with Mikey's brain in different ways, He would break just a little bit faster.
Weapon X
09-14-2005, 08:24 AM
i think if Shredder had the time and really F*cked with Mikey's brain in different ways, He would break just a little bit faster.
In the Old Toon, all Shred would have to do is get him some pizza.
The Stryker
09-14-2005, 08:38 AM
And shredder can cut the pizza pretty fast!
see? Mikey would turn to the dark side.
Weapon X
09-14-2005, 08:39 AM
Plus Shredder once thought he was Mikey, so he knows all that Mikey does, including how to get him. :lol:
remix17
09-14-2005, 03:14 PM
Shredder: Choose evil, Michelangelo, and you can have all the pizza you like.
Mikey: You'd put that in writing?
Lol, a little KP for ya.
Silent FOx
09-14-2005, 06:28 PM
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lol same thing I thought :lol: . I'd pick Don for all of the intelligence he has and he could use him to build stuff.
Shadow Leonardo
09-14-2005, 06:37 PM
I do agree that Don would be a good ally for Shredders technology for making stronger Foot Soldiers.But I remember an episode called "Napoleon, Colussus of the Swamp". In this episode is where Shredder makes a Mutation Gun and uses it on Napoleon (who was one of the Punk Frogs) to make him seem similar to the Hulk to destroy the turtles.Shredder kidnaps Donnie and forces him to fix the Mutation Gun.But Donnie tricks him and reverses it. Therefore I don't think Shredder would trust Donnie with his technology.
Coola Yagami
09-14-2005, 06:52 PM
Shredder: Choose evil, Michelangelo, and you can have all the pizza you like.
Mikey: You'd put that in writing?
Lol, a little KP for ya.
LOL speaking of which, wasn't Mikey Shredder's pizza delivery boy in an episode? Mikey all the way.
LOL speaking of which, wasn't Mikey Shredder's pizza delivery boy in an episode? Mikey all the way.
:lol: :lol: ... I don't remember that ep but I can sure picture it!
Sage Ninja
09-14-2005, 10:22 PM
I would think that Mikey would be the one to "go bad"
everyone expects Leo and Raph to be the ones to go bad but i think if Shredder had the time and really F*cked with Mikey's brain in different ways, He would break just a little bit faster.
In the Old Toon, all Shred would have to do is get him some pizza.
Shredder: Choose evil, Michelangelo, and you can have all the pizza you like.
Mikey: You'd put that in writing?
Lol, a little KP for ya.
Plus Shredder once thought he was Mikey, so he knows all that Mikey does, including how to get him.
And shredder can cut the pizza pretty fast!
see? Mikey would turn to the dark side.
You guys have got it all wrong. I think that Michaelangelo out of all the turtles would be the least likely to turn to the dark side, he is the most morally conscience of the four turtles. this is true in all mediums, classic toon, New toon, Mirage comic, ect.
Michaelangelo is all about fighting for the greater good and doing what is right, and he is naturally empathatic. Mike just isn't the sort of person to harm others for his own gain.
This doesn't mean that he doesn't have one however. But in the scenario that Stryker put out of, if Michaelangelo was some how getting his brain seriously messed around with by Shredder to turn bad I don't think that he would be the first to crack out of all the others. Mike is never given any credit for much; but I think that he is allot stronger emotionally and spirturally enough that a little tampering with his head wouldn't make him go all evil.
And the whole scenrio with the pizza bribing...as pizza whipped as he was in the classic toon it would take hell of a lot more for Michaaelangelo to turn to the dark side.
But you this is a very intersting topic about the turltes dark sides. I think it deserves its own thread.
remix17
09-15-2005, 11:13 AM
LOL speaking of which, wasn't Mikey Shredder's pizza delivery boy in an episode? Mikey all the way.
Michelangelo: I've been delivering pizzas for the Shredder? Well, there goes my chance of getting a raise.
In all seriousness, though, I still say Donny, You just cant beat is brains. And remember his Dark Turtle days? :o
Sewer Bull
09-15-2005, 11:57 AM
Heh. Each of them is likely to turn to the darks side if the possibilities occur.
Mikey or Raph could leave the gang after some huge conflict between one of them and the rest.
Don may find Shredder's/Baxter's/whoever's abode the fine place to fulfill his magnificent potential...
And Leo? Only if he goes insane or misunderstands the code or when he becomes sorta "Bushido fundamentalist", who, for the love of the code abuses its basic principles and rules. Or if he's cheated by Shredder like in Season 1.
zkarlette
09-15-2005, 12:05 PM
I think it would take a lot of time for Mike to break to the dark side, I think Don or Raph could be more vulnerable but anyway I dont think they would
Sewer Bull
09-15-2005, 12:11 PM
I think it would take a lot of time for Mike to break to the dark side
Ah those fangirls, believing in their idols till the very end :P ;)
zkarlette
09-15-2005, 12:21 PM
Its not a fangirl thing Im just saying judging by their personality ... I think it would take longer for Mike to be that bitter and angry to actually turnaway from his brothers ....not that it can't happen.... :P
Sage Ninja
09-15-2005, 10:44 PM
People! People! I have made a thred for this sort of thing on the board Which One Of The Turtles Is Moslt Likely To Turn Toward The Dark Side go post your responce about this there pleace
aramconbrat
09-15-2005, 11:35 PM
You would think that Raph's temper wouldn't be able to coexist with Shredder and Raph isn't likely to take other's authority well..
Mike on the other hand has a sense of humor that would probably get under the Shredder's skin (or armor I suppose).
Leonardo is a possibility and although the clan needed more leaders, I don't think Shredder would give this right to one of the turtles.
Donatello being the brainiac would be able to create all the gizmo's and gadgets and he wouldn't get in anyone's way when doing it. So I would have to say Don seems the most useful to Shredder.
trexmaster
12-02-2005, 08:16 AM
I voted Michelangelo since he's the weakest of all four turtles and therefor the easiest to defeat (Leo trains the hardest, Raph has his temper, Don makes weapons, Mike...cracks jokes?). So yeah, Shredder probably likes him best since he poses the smallest threat.
Actually, DrSpengler, Donatello is the weakest, as the Palladium RPG book (which Laird and Eastman worked very closely with) attests to.
I tire of people who claim that "Mikey is the worst fighter". Whether he's the best is another matter, but he's actually quite skilled, and he's also the most agile of the bunch (an important skill in ninjutsu).
Turtle Dove
12-02-2005, 10:19 AM
Ok seriously before someone kills me... I know he wouldn't but if he had to choose, who would it be. Hell maybe he would like one of them a little bit even though he wouldn't think twice about killing them.
I say Raph. The temper.
Maybe Don for his smarts. Shredder would maybe appreciate that if anything.
hmm I'd have to say he'd want Mikey cause after he made him human in that "Cookies" episodes, it'd be easy to lure Mikey back.
Rhane
12-02-2005, 09:16 PM
I see this poll in two ways. Way 1) Shredder has expressed an interest in Leo because he(leo) is so similar to shredder. ((don't kill me. But come on, in the new toon with all the extremes you can't blame me for saying he's dark)) Raph is also high on his list because of the anger quote but I'll leave the star wars to MN. In my opinion Mikey and Don would be most useful to shredder though. Don cause we got the genius thing going on and Mikey because he has such potential. Leo is already on his own "path" but Mikey being the trusting guy he is could be a valuable asset.
((srry for the spelling errors))
TheShowstoppa
12-03-2005, 01:16 AM
I say Leo for this reason: It was Leo that made the challenge to Shredder in Return to New York. Raph wanted to, but got burnt out, so Leo took over. (Attack on Leo in the one shot issue)
I only say this because it just seems that way in the comics. However, in the new show, also, he seemed to favor Leo, yet again. After he was defeated, Shredder had Leo hunted and nearly killed, yet again, proving that Shredder's Favorite... in terms of wanting to kill the most, would be, in my opinion, Leo.
Sage Ninja
12-05-2005, 12:21 AM
And i say it varies from medium to medium. Since the turtles personalites change subley (at times not so sublely) with every medium they are represented in.
I think Sherdder has a thing for leonardo in most mediums because of his passion for ninjitsu.
GK Punk
12-05-2005, 12:24 AM
Man I can just see Shredder kickin' back in the Drome thinking "This is the greatest scheme ever! Now hopefully those wretched Turtles don't show up to ruin things!!!... However, if they do... I really do hope Raphael shows up. he's a joy to work with. Quite the proffesional!" :lol:
Shreddette
12-05-2005, 12:45 AM
Man I can just see Shredder kickin' back in the Drome thinking "This is the greatest scheme ever! Now hopefully those wretched Turtles don't show up to ruin things!!!... However, if they do... I really do hope Raphael shows up. he's a joy to work with. Quite the proffesional!" :lol:
Holy crap, crazy as it sounds I can actually see that happening! :lol: :evilgrin:
Blondus
12-05-2005, 01:13 AM
I think Shredder would rather have Leo teamed up. A disciplined fighter.. who would'nt have that..
Chef Boyarquoa
12-05-2005, 03:31 PM
raph, becuz his temper would make him quick to switch sides
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