Your fave incarnation of Raph? [Archive]

Seurat

11-17-2005, 04:41 PM

Inspired by the "Your favorite incarnation of Mikey" thread, I had to do this. I think Raph differs quite a bit in each incarnation. But which is your fave? Sarcastic, old-school-toon Raph? Angry movies Raph? Somewhere-between-the-two new-cartoon Raph? Black outfit Archie comics Raph? Feel free to share.

Jester

11-17-2005, 04:49 PM

Old Toon....definatly OT....Rob Paulsen IS Raphael if you were to ask me...:P

Ryona

11-17-2005, 04:57 PM

Easily the original series Raph for me. He's not a dick in the old series like he is in most incarnations. Old-school Raph is witty, charming, funny, and cool. He's by far the best Raph.

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/4755/clangdidusayclang2mr.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/9272/raphgifdone1ao.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Serp

11-17-2005, 05:21 PM

OT Raph

He was my IDOL

:)
:ohwell:
;)
:|
:dead:

Spitfire

11-17-2005, 05:50 PM

I love the new Raph. He has that harsh edge and knows how to really get under someones skin. He pisses off Leo all the time and brings out the best in him, in my opinion. He pushes Leo to push himself even further. And Raph is a big softie. I have a feeling out of all the turtles he would be the best with kids. As much as he says he hates kids you can tell he has a big soft spot for them. I also like his style of fighting. He just runs in pissed off and what ever gets in his way gets hammered. Unless the person is better then him, in which case he learns a lession.

The old toon all the TMNT acted the same to me. The all cracked jokes and they all talked the same almost. Each of them had one quality that seperated them from the other. Mikey was a surfer dude, Leo was a leader, Don made his inventions, and Raph was just kinda there, he mainly cracked jokes and played off how bad the situation was.

Tetsu Deinonychus

11-17-2005, 08:35 PM

I like the Archie Raph with the Dark suit best, he was always about asserting his independence. Mirage-Raph a close second.

Weapon X

11-17-2005, 09:36 PM

I've said it 100 times OT Raph, Ryona summed it up best, he was a smart ass, but he was really good at it, way funnier then Mike.

Buslady

11-17-2005, 09:54 PM

Movie 1.
He's cute, got attitude, got too much depression going on, needs love and not to mention *fangirl mode warning* he's sexay!

Coola Yagami

11-17-2005, 10:30 PM

Uhhh, it's hard to decide. Old toon Raph had great wisecracks... the new Raph has the bad-ass-ness he's supposed to have.. and Archie Raph is a mixture of the two as well as having that awesome all-black outfit.

Sage Ninja

11-18-2005, 12:45 AM

Old toon Raphael all the way, for all the reasons that Ryona mentioned. I loved him to bits and he is a unique representation of the firery ninja turtle and I loved it!! Screw Mirage cannon so what what if it wasn't anything like your version of him! He still kicked ass:D

New toon Raphael is a close second, he is actually growing on me and I feel less and less like ninja kicking him in the nuts with each passing episode:P :lol: (thank Touch and Go for that and showing his sweet side)

Blondus

11-18-2005, 02:44 AM

Old toon. Though it is hard to choose.

I grew up with the old toons. The turtles from the old toons were my heroes. ...They still are, I guess. Especially Raph...

Old toon Raph all the way!:tthumbsu:

Sewer Bull

11-18-2005, 03:47 AM

Old-school... When I was a kid, I wanted to be as witty and funny as him. I loved his quick ripostes.

I daresay all my current wit and charm and the fact I am able to wisely talk back to people came from my strive for being Raphish. Because I haven't always been like that:|

Thank you OS Raph. You are my hero.:)

hazlov2004

11-18-2005, 06:47 AM

new toon raph

MyNameSlash

11-18-2005, 11:59 AM

I like him in the movies. Sure he's stubborn and sometimes a jerk, but I think his character development throughout the three movies is most entertaining/interesting.

Sewer Bull

11-18-2005, 12:09 PM

Of course we can't forget about THAT incarnation:

http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/687/metalraphael8ls.gif

:D

BTW - I wonder if we are going to have further threads like "Your favourite incarnation of Leo/Don/Splinter/Shredder/April/Casey/Ratking/etc."

Fun will never cease.

MyNameSlash

11-18-2005, 12:20 PM

Of course we can't forget about THAT incarnation:

http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/687/metalraphael8ls.gif

:D

Is that like the Japanimation version or something? I don't recall that... :ohwell:

Sewer Bull

11-18-2005, 12:39 PM

Exactly. That's anime version produced in 1996.

Jo269976

11-18-2005, 01:21 PM

Turtle Dove

11-19-2005, 11:14 AM

[QUOTE=Ryona]Easily the original series Raph for me. He's not a dick in the old series like he is in most incarnations. Old-school Raph is witty, charming, funny, and cool. He's by far the best Raph.

Im with you, but it's sometimes funny seeing him as a dick :P

:lol: I agree but Raph beening a seroius "Something" is a good thing, he has a gentle heart. Like someome told me he be a good friend,good bf..good hunny..good daddy

Jo269976

11-19-2005, 12:58 PM

[QUOTE=Leo_Rulez]

:lol: I agree but Raph beening a seroius "Something" is a good thing, he has a gentle heart. Like someome told me he be a good friend,good bf..good hunny..good daddy

lol, could you imagine Raph drunk? if you thought he was bad then... well you step in his way when drunk :P

Ryona

11-19-2005, 01:03 PM

This pole is going exactly as I predicted...

Old-school Raph is winning, and TNM Raph and Image Raph hasn't got a single vote. :D

Jester

11-19-2005, 01:04 PM

Well Raph as the New Shredder...not exactly making us fan-dudes jump for joy...:p

Ryona

11-19-2005, 01:11 PM

It's not just that. the whole Image series was a sin.

Come on, Jester... You're a religous guy. you ought to know the eleventh commandment... "Thou shalt not desecrate the TMNT".

Jester

11-19-2005, 01:15 PM

Indeed...One-handed Leo, Cyborg Don, Shredder Raph and Bat Splinter...Only Mike comes away un scathed....:P

Ryona

11-19-2005, 01:20 PM

Not to mention that Raph got half his face mangled and ended up looking like TwoFace *gag* :sick:

Jester

11-19-2005, 01:23 PM

Hence the wearing of a Casey Style hockey mask and later Shredder's mask.

Jo269976

11-19-2005, 01:27 PM

lol, i think i missed something along the road here :lol:

Jester

11-19-2005, 01:31 PM

Image Raphie talk....sorry....
As I said OT Raph
Then Archie, NT, Movie, Mirage, NM, and Image

Rikirk

11-19-2005, 03:41 PM

There always needs to be a token *jerk* in every group...

Now, The term jerk may be a bit too harsh for Raphael...but he is a blatant hothead, act first...figure things out afterward. Thats why I like him in the new version better.

He was a wiseguy in the old series, and dont get me wrong..I liked the old series a lot. But the new series...and the new Raph has an edge that makes the show so much better.

but thats just my opinion.

Sage Ninja

11-21-2005, 12:02 AM

what was Raphael from the archie comics like? And to be honest I really didn't like that black outfit thing he would wear it contrasted to much with the other turtles looks.

Weapon X

11-21-2005, 06:16 AM

what was Raphael from the archie comics like? And to be honest I really didn't like that black outfit thing he would wear it contrasted to much with the other turtles looks.
Well he was pretty much like Raph from the OT, the Archie comics started out doing adaptions of the episodes, so that may explain that, as the series went on he got much....I don't know If "angry" is the word but when the series got darker, so did Raph, and the other TMNT as well.

Jester

11-21-2005, 07:49 AM

Yep, and the whole "Black Suit" was him wearing a suit he was given to wrestle in on Stump's Asteroid, he kept wearing his as a token of individuality...wonder if it was a nod to Spidey getting a black costume in a "secret war" on in far away place?

Blondus

11-22-2005, 04:03 AM

One of the main reasons i like the old tune Raph can be summed up with a quote...

"You better talk... or else i'm gonna get... SARCASTIC".:lol:

ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael

11-23-2005, 02:22 PM

Mirage Raph hands down is the best Raph.

Lady Venus

11-23-2005, 04:42 PM

Old Toon Raph is my fav one under Leo that is.

NightwatchersOnlygirl

11-24-2005, 08:34 AM

The new toon Raphael oh that voice so sexy:D

Sage Ninja

11-26-2005, 01:39 AM

this is my thought on classic cartoon raphael and why I like this vesion of him the best and that is...

Raphael's humour, OMG I don't know what it is but I just love his sence of humour:D

Raphael's humour was one that I really enjoyed very much, he was just had a sarcastic way about him that is hard to emulate. I loved how he could say something and you really could hear what he was really thinking at that moment. He always had this "you dumb ass" tone of voice when ever he would make a comment to something another character would would say, and it would just crack me up.

I loved his wit and whip lash sarcasm, his personality really put the cartoon on a more mature level in my oppinion. His humour was such that even an adult would chuckle at things he would say. And it isn't even what he would say that was funny, it was how he say it that made it humourous. I mean the dialougue for Raphael was pretty well written and well thought out, but it was really the dilvery that made his lines really great.

I loved that incarnation of Raphael, I get miffed when people disdain this version of him just because he wasn't anything like he was supposed to be in the mirage comics. Classic toon Raphael kicked ass

Ryona

11-26-2005, 03:13 AM

Damn right, Sage Ninja. And not only is old series Raph the best one, he's the smartest one out of all the incarnations too. :)

GK Punk

11-26-2005, 03:16 AM

Rob Van Dam all the way.

Actually, Old school raph is who I voted for ;)

Sage Ninja

11-29-2005, 12:52 AM

Damn right, Sage Ninja. And not only is old series Raph the best one, he's the smartest one out of all the incarnations too. :)

Oh I don't know if smart is the best word for it. I think Raphael in the new toon is rather smart even if he in the past has had the tendacy to fly off the handle. Raphael in the classic cartoon was one of those people who can come up with a cuastic retort on the spot and nail you you with it. Kind of like that chick that hosts the Weakest Link.

I liked how Raphael's humour wasn't forced and unnatural. Half of what made his dilugue work was that his quips seemed geniuan and appropriate for that moment and just flowed, which I think added impact. It gave you an easy laugh instead of a half hearted: "eh heh...that was kinda stupid" reaction.

What I liked is that much of the time Raphael didn't appear as though he was attentically trying to be funny it just came out that way because he was just cynical about everything.

NameGoesHere1066

06-17-2008, 06:18 PM

as much I love OT Raphael and NT Raphal I voted for CGI movie Raphael. He was slick and tough and he had the lazy way about him that I thought was...well sexy, this guy I could see his pain and his soul and he was jerk was hurt but didn't know how to express it expect in his own "Raphael" way. He was endearing.

NT Raph, I really like him he was great in showing his issues with Leo and his problems with his temper. I liked how angry he is in this version, but some how I think he comes off as more grouchy and disagreeable sometimes.

turkishproverb

06-17-2008, 11:17 PM

Movie 1.
He's cute, got attitude, got too much depression going on, needs love and not to mention *fangirl mode warning* he's sexay!

The Fanboy's would like to concur on these counts.

However, despite being less sexy, I have to give it to the various comics raph's for character growth.

gobo

06-18-2008, 06:21 AM

Raph actually ticks me off in most continuities other than the classic 'toon. At least I can appreciate that he still tries to do the right thing despite his issues, unlike some people I know. :roll:

Guitar_Raph

06-18-2008, 06:49 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/PCenter/Ninja%20Turtles%20The%20Next%20Mutation/MotorcycleRaph.jpg

I'm probably the first (& only) to vote for Next Mutation. Gotta like Raph driving his motorcycle. He also played guitar in a promo for NTTNM.

Sage Ninja

06-18-2008, 12:55 PM

thebrownranger

06-18-2008, 10:30 PM

Mirage Raphael.

NameGoesHere1066

06-19-2008, 01:44 PM

Bad Guys Lover

06-19-2008, 02:46 PM

I voted for OT Raphael. I always liked his witty sarcasm and no matter how bad situation was, he always had time to make a joke. :)

New toon Raph is my second best. ;)

Jelly Bean

06-19-2008, 09:22 PM

I liked the way CGI Raphael was depicted. What a bad ass. By comparison Raph in the current toon just seem petulant and grouchy.

blue_angel99

06-19-2008, 11:01 PM

I voted Mirage Raph. I'm kinda surprised so many like OT Raph. He and OT Mike were too much alike in that he was too goofy:not intimidating and dark like Raph should be although he got more serious in the Red Sky episodes..:ohwell:

Jelly Bean

06-20-2008, 11:06 AM

mm, I rather like him in the 80's toon he is actually funny and has a personality that isn't dependent on being dark and brooding. I think it frees his character to act in diffrent ways this way. And I disagree with Raph and Mikey being similar they both have distinct personalites and quirks.

Evenstar227

06-26-2008, 03:14 PM

I like all the versions! Well, NM was a little overdone, but then I don't think that show was the best version of the Turtles anyway. OT Raph was my first fave, but I enjoyed the different retellings of him & his bros over the years. I have to admit that the Image Raph really threw me for a loop, and it wasn't that he got scarred or became the Shredder. It was when he was fighting the Vicious Circle in a (gasp) strip joint! (I was such an innocent back then...lol)

I really dig Raph in the movies, though, especially in TMNT. It's cool how he kept fighting bad guys as Nightwatcher since the team was split up. The criminal element of this city may be guilty of a lot things, but bein' quitters ain't one of them!

gobo

06-26-2008, 04:20 PM

Raph actually ticks me off in most continuities other than the classic 'toon. At least I can appreciate that he still tries to do the right thing despite his issues, unlike some people I know. :roll:
ooh, you have guts gobo to say that. :shifty: Why does he tick you off if you mind me asking?
Thought I had answered this... It's nothing he does really. It just depresses me by bringing to mind all the friends I had who had similar anger issues. They all grew up to become self-loathing asses whose only joy in life is ruining everyone else's day. Raph's personality in most incarnations of the story is too idealized that I don't even know if I can consider it believable.

Sage Ninja

06-28-2008, 11:17 AM

it's the whole bad boy thing. The whole bad boy with a heart of gold is idealised because deep down under all the snarling and churlishness the guy is supposed to be a softy at heart. It's supposed to be an ideal as an attractive male.

Jelly Bean

07-01-2008, 01:12 PM

I love Raph but sometimes he really irks me with his attitude. He often has this "OMG you're so weak!" way of acting, when some one wants to stay out of a conflict or mearly wants to go about it in a more collective way, rather than just jumping in and busting heads. Like if you have any kind of self presivation you're coward. He pulls this 'tude with Leo all the time.

Buslady

07-01-2008, 09:00 PM

Let's remember today, Raph in his mid 30s is mellower than his teens. I love how he's grown, learned, chilled out but he's still good ol Raph. He seemed to accept Leo's position in the team, and he gets along well with him now. He's more social (in V4, seen chatting with folks in the bar)..so he's not that punk he used to be. He's learned to love life, esp now he can go around town without hiding.

Jelly Bean

07-02-2008, 02:35 PM

I'm glad to hear that he's matured in the comics. It's just in other media he can get pretty self rightous and angry when others don't think it's a good idea to do what he wants, and then he storms off. I think Raph in the new toon has really improved on this though.