Best Shredder Ever!

[Jester]

We've got one for Mikey, and we've got one for Raphie-boy. Now lets do ole' Tin Skin. Dou you like your Saki dark and human? Or dark and a squishy alien? Or a goofy yet somewhat lovable beligered supervillian?

I'm gonna go with OT Shredder...he and Krang are just brillient...and he's just the most wacky of the bunch...

[Weapon X]

Old Toon, it's almost the defiant Shredder, although less then stellar work of getting rid of the TMNT was shown on a weekly basis, he still tried and tried and tried some more. I also like the look of OT Shredder allot. He could be menacing and at times put TMNT and Krang in their place, he's just allot of fun. Ohh and James Avery's voice work too.

[Jester]

Indeed, Uncle Phil made Shredder...

[Masked Ninja]

I like Shredder human and EVIL.The best, I think, would be to take NT Shredder and make him human... so I voted Mirage as the closest thing.

OT Shredder.... I could never respect a villain with a purple cloak. *shrug*

[Sewer Bull]

OT Shredder.... I could never respect a villain with a purple cloak. *shrug*

Blast, you wretched reptile.:evil: James Avery prevails.

I'd say Mirage with a drop of OS. I don't like the movie incarnation.

And OAV Shredders (all five of them) simply kick ass.

[Spitfire]

I like the Archie Shredder. He was still just as evil as the Mirage Shredder and he didn't die as fast. Plus he didn't show up TOO often.

[VaughnMichael]

I voted for Archie to I love those comics
-Putrescent

[Silent FOx]

Indeed, Uncle Phil made Shredder...
indeed he did :D

[remix17]

Old Toon. I never bought the Archie Comics, and from what I've seen of the old school comics he wasn't my type of fella. New Toon Shredder is cool, and while any Shredder is better than NO Shredder (the horror! :() I gotta say that I prefer Old Toon Shredder better. He looked like an old school ninja, he didn't overdo his costume like the new one, and he had an actual personality. Rotten to the core, yes he was, but at least he had more than two emotions to switch inbetween.

[Masked Ninja]

Old Shredder was too whiny for me, and not intimidating at all. I think his quote in the poll is a prime example. I like the Shredder actually being someone the Turtles can fear, instead of someone who I swear lets the Turtles win.

[Jester]

I did forget a Shredder....Anime...:P

[Mandi-chan]

Sorry, but I prefer my villans to be intimidating and kick arse! New Toon all the way, followed by movie-verse, then old toon.

[BlueSonnet]

I think i'm going to have to go for the new toon. He seems to fair better when he doesn't have Krang's hand up his backside telling him what to do (figuratively speaking).

But having said that though, James Avery's voice in the old toon rocked.

[Buslady]

I liked the new toon Shreddy the best, cause he felt like he was a real threat.

In movie 1; I was with the guys laughing at the Shredder..the dude was laughable cause he took himself too damn seriously...it was funny!
"Maybe all that hardware's for making cole slaw?" :lol:

[Shreddette]

OT Shredder all the way.

Sure some of the episodes where the writers made him "whiny" as Masked Ninja put it put me off a bit but I always pushed that aside as idiot writers trying to make it funny. The heart and soul of Shredder is and always will be Evil, although what I liked about him most is that I got the feeling that deep down if he met the right chick she'd be one lucky woman. She'd have to be someone pretty strong and stellar, I think. Or maybe he has a soft spot for the occasional meek woman (on the outside only, perhaps at first glance). I think one mandatory trait about anyone who would want to be with him would have to not want kids. He's just not the fathering type. Which is perfect for me.

He's pretty mysterious, and I also think find excitement in not knowing whether or not he'll kiss me or kill me. I must be a closet masochist.

Plus someone that hot with an outfit like that has to have some serious kinks. :evilgrin:

Maybe some people will think I am delusional there. Oh well. MINE.

Oh, and true badasses can pull off wearing purple *cough*TheJoker*cough*, kthanksbai.

[remix17]

I have met my frikkin' Shredder-fan twin.

Oh, and true badasses can pull off wearing purple *cough*TheJoker*cough*, kthanksbai.

Honestly, I find it odd so many people are against the purple. Makes PEFRECT sense why Shredder would choose it out of all the other colors. Purple is, after all, the color of royalty and wisdom...and those who wear it in large amounts are said to sometimes suffer from delusions. :lol:

Plus someone that hot with an outfit like that has to have some serious kinks.

*cough*hetiesupApril*couchHACK

[Shreddette]

*cough*hetiesupApril*couchHACK

Even as a kid I was disappointed that it only went that far. There was some serious sexual tension between those two sometimes. Sigh.

No wonder I now write erotic literature involving him. Time to set him free!

[Zachatello00]

Well, if you asked me yesterday, I would have said new Shredder. I love the story arc with him as an utrom, and they made him so lethal, so "doesn't take crap from brains" so "I don't need to rely on mutants" so "kill anything that gets in my way" so "bada$$". I love it. But then I spent all day today watching volume three of old school TMNT. There's just no school like the old school. I must agree with those who say "Uncle Phil made Shredder"

Oh, and as for the movie, I always breathe like Darth Vader during the scene where he comes in and address the foot ninjas near the beginning. lol I half expect him to have a red lightsaber when he meets the TMNT on the roof.

[Shreddette]

There's just no school like the old school. I must agree with those who say "Uncle Phil made Shredder"

Yeah! w00t! :D

[Sewer Bull]

I demand a pic of NM Shredder. Can't remind him.

[Anarky]

That's the best image I could come up with.

http://www.virtualtoychest.com/tmntnext/tmntnextshredderc.jpg

[Sewer Bull]

Oh yeah... now I remember...

*shrugs*

[Jester]

http://www.mikeystmnt.com/images/screens/tnm/dasEvil.jpg
This is a villian collage from Mikey's. It looks to have been done by Tokka. Shredder can be seen in the upper left.

[Sage Ninja]

I choose Classic toon Shedder because he was both amusing and on some levels very convincing. He was evil but in a fun way that you just loved!! Also he had the greatest personality, he was just so rotten and ill-tempered, he didn't have a nice thing to say about anything or any one. And some of his evil doing was sometimes really...um...evil! Like his poisening April, or locking April in an air tight safe. Trying to dissovleve Michaelangelo, throughing Baxter into the portal with out a second thought, ect. All these where pretty menacing deeds and could have been played up that way if the writters had made a bigger deal out of them.

Oh and I just loved the partnership between Krang and him that was just gold! Krang and him played off each other so well, they where like peanutbutter and jelly. I think Classic toon Shredder is the only character on that show that could survive with his own show (well maybe with Krang init too).

But you know a better quote in the poll for Old toon Shedder would have been "Not even close, tonight I dine on turtle soup" that was a bad ass line and was a classic! Maybe the poll could be changed to this?

OT Shredder all the way.

Sure some of the episodes where the writers made him "whiny" as Masked Ninja put it put me off a bit but I always pushed that aside as idiot writers trying to make it funny. The heart and soul of Shredder is and always will be Evil, although what I liked about him most is that I got the feeling that deep down if he met the right chick she'd be one lucky woman. She'd have to be someone pretty strong and stellar, I think. Or maybe he has a soft spot for the occasional meek woman (on the outside only, perhaps at first glance). I think one mandatory trait about anyone who would want to be with him would have to not want kids. He's just not the fathering type. Which is perfect for me.

He's pretty mysterious, and I also think find excitement in not knowing whether or not he'll kiss me or kill me. I must be a closet masochist.

Plus someone that hot with an outfit like that has to have some serious kinks. :evilgrin:

Maybe some people will think I am delusional there. Oh well. MINE.

Oh, and true badasses can pull off wearing purple *cough*TheJoker*cough*, kthanksbai.

Wow, you make some really good points, looks like you like to analise and dissected as much as I do LOL. I actually agree with you on that!!

Even as a kid I was disappointed that it only went that far. There was some serious sexual tension between those two sometimes. Sigh.

wow...now that you mentioned it you are right:o There was some kind of sexual tension between those two. Shedder kidnapped and tyed up April and swung her around on his shoulder more times than I can count. He couldn't keep his hands off of her, the little pervert. And if you think about it they are very similar characters, there both egotistical, selfish cows LMAO:lol: :lol:

[Big Lob]

Gotta go with everyone else. OT Shredder all the way. I love the episodes after the initial five where Shredder is on his own without Krang's technology, and only had his wits to rely on. In the Incredible Shrinking Turtles, he beats all the turtles on his own at the docks. That was pretty cool to rewatch. The voice acting is second to none. Often times, voice actors go under-appreciated, so its nice to see Uncle Phil getting props. And finally, his costume and look rocked. A shame that version of him never got a great figure to match.

[Mobius One]

I loved the Shredder from the first movie. He was just so badass. Also, I thought that it was pretty cool how he only had a blade gaunlet thing on one hand, instead of two. I guess the first movie was where that originated because the new toon Shredder is the same.

[Dragnskull]

if you could, id like some info on these different types.

i know of the oldschool shredder (who doesnt?)
i know of the movie shredder
i know of the new school shredder
i know of the original TMNT comic shredder (mirage)

but i know not of the archi or the NM versions...i never read the comics as a kid (wasnt a comic kid, more of a cartoon and videogames kid) and i cant recall shredder even being in the NM...

and what did they mean on thef irs tpost "movies-remind you of another movie villan?"

i dont thinkt he shredder reminded me of any other badguy other than, the shredder...
can you please show me the rest of them?


anyways, i liked hte movie shredder, just because i like everything about the old movies, since i could see everyone in RL

*edit* just sawt he pic of the NM shredder....wow...how evernewb...

[Jester]

Yeah NM Shredder was in the 5 part pilot, and not much more. To be honnest I'm not sure how much he a part he played in NT:TNM cause I've only seen the pilot, and edited at that.

Archie Shredder...well...think Old Toon Shredder if he was actually a force to be reconed with. Archie Shredder was what OT Shredder if he wasn't such a baby, and oddly enough, he still had some consept of honor (PM me for the whole story, or read the TMNT Adventures stuff on the official site, www.ninjaturtles.com)

[Turtle Dove]

THe old Toon Shredder was too funny to hate him-we all loved him. The new Shredder was not afraid to kill the turtles and ....well I vote for old toon Shredder

[Sage Ninja]

Some one commented that classic toon Shredder seemed like he "let" the turtles win all the time. Well i think Shedder was good villan who would have been succsusful except that he was a victim of the company he assocaited him self with **coughBebopandRocksteadycough**. Half the time he failed because they screwed him up. That and he was usaully to arroagant which led to him failing.

[VaughnMichael]

Some one commented that classic toon Shredder seemed like he "let" the turtles win all the time. Well i think Shedder was good villan who would have been succsusful except that he was a victim of the company he assocaited him self with **coughBebopandRocksteadycough**. Half the time he failed because they screwed him up. That and he was usaully to arroagant which led to him failing.
either that or they wanted old toon shredder to be like cobra commander....

[Serp]

hmmm can't decide between movie Shredder or NT Shredder.


Ot Shredder was good for the lighthearted feeling for the old toon.


I don't really think there is a bad version of the SHredder.

The New Toon Version is definatly the most meanicing of versions.

just can't choose,

I think i'll vote for the New Toon SHredder.

[Shredder]

Well, I have to comment on a topic like this! ;) My vote goes to the OT Shredder (no surprise, there). Great voice, cool outfit, likeable personality- just a great, fun character all around. It didn't even matter that he wasn't all that intimidating most of the time (although he has his badass moments, too)- he was the best character in the show. I also really like his interactions with Krang, Bebop, and Rocksteady- tons of funny moments. Gotta love the old show. :D

The anime OVA Shredder (see avatar) is great, too, although obviously more of a parody. I do love the OVAs, though, and wish they made more...

I'm not as familiar with the other versions, although I've seen the movies and thought he came off as a pretty generic "bad guy" there. The comic and NT Shredders also sound more like he's made to be a typical "villain" character, but I haven't read/seen enough to judge.

[Shreddette]

I thought I saw metal reflecting onto the walls in here. Hi, Shredder!

THe old Toon Shredder was too funny to hate him-we all loved him. The new Shredder was not afraid to kill the turtles and ....well I vote for old toon Shredder

Yeah.
Seeing the word Shredder and "hate him" in the same sentence perplexes me.

[Seurat]

OT Shred-head all the way. Why? Let's look at all the Shredders:

Movies: Yeah, he was scary. Yeah, he mutated into Super Shredder in movie 2 (And, oddly enough, so did his armor). But he doesn't have the technology the other Shredders have. If there was a war between all the Shredders, Movie Shred would the first one down.

New Toon: Hard to fear a foot-tall brain-squid-thing. No need to call the Turtles; just get an exterminator. But you gotta give him props for coming back from the "dead" repeatedly.

Next Mutation: Venus beat him with some hypnotism. That's all. No more Shredder. Need I say more?

Comic Shredders: Uh... I didn't follow the comics that much. Sorry!

Old Toon: Most heavily armed. Giant mobile base with freaky eyeball cool enough to give this forum its name. Old school villain sense of style. And the only Shredder who hasn't been gotten rid of permanently.

[Sewer Bull]

The anime OVA Shredder (see avatar) is great, too, although obviously more of a parody. I do love the OVAs, though, and wish they made more...


http://img282.imageshack.us/img282/8367/darkdevilshredder6zu.jpg

Look at the Drome, people. LOOK AT THE DROME!

No, it hasn't shrunk, it's still at its normal size :o

Dark Devil Shredder is better and more powerful than all of the other Shredder incarnations combined together. It's sad he was the dumberst one either - Donatello defeated him within 2 minutes. :dead:

[remix17]

Where would one purchase the TMNT animes?

[Ra]

*shrugs* Probably on e-bay or somewhere. Maybe download them *shifty eyes*

I had to vote for New Toon Shredder because...well, I feel he's one of the more deadlier Shredders out there. My ideal Shred-head however would be new toon combind with old toon. A very deadly villain with some very witty quotes :P Also, I would've liked it if NS Shredder was human, but I guess you can't have everything

[remix17]

Also, I would've liked it if NS Shredder was human, but I guess you can't have everything

Well, it was either Laird get his head-slicing scene or us get our human Shredder. :roll:

[Masked Ninja]

And the only Shredder who hasn't been gotten rid of permanently.Probably because the OT depended on him as a villain. They tried Dregg... ew... But it sure wasn't like the Turtles were trying to stop him once and for all.

I do enjoy OT Shredder for his humor and the way he and Krang blunder about. It's classic, and I loved it. But if we're talking "which Shredder would I cry and cower and beg for my life if he was standing in front of me?"... the new show delivers. I'm not the biggest fan of OT Shredder's costume (I think it would improve markedly if that cape were maroon or blue) but the movie Shredder's was even sillier-looking.

[Seurat]

I'm not the biggest fan of OT Shredder's costume (I think it would improve markedly if that cape were maroon or blue) but the movie Shredder's was even sillier-looking.

Honestly, the silliest-looking Shredder, though, would be the Shredder seen in the Coming Out of Their Shells Tour. His armor was super-tacky, his helmet had overly large spikes and a mesh mouthpiece that was really easy to see through, and he actually wore eye-makeup. He looked like an evil, super-ugly drag queen.

*In Comic Book Guy voice*: Worst Shredder EVER.

[SurfGuru133]

Honestly, the silliest-looking Shredder, though, would be the Shredder seen in the Coming Out of Their Shells Tour. His armor was super-tacky, his helmet had overly large spikes and a mesh mouthpiece that was really easy to see through, and he actually wore eye-makeup. He looked like an evil, super-ugly drag queen.

*In Comic Book Guy voice*: Worst Shredder EVER.



Ya kinda like ur mom man:lol: but seriously the old toon for sure cuz that dude could never give up no matter how many times the turtles beat him

[Masked Ninja]

Honestly, the silliest-looking Shredder, though, would be the Shredder seen in the Coming Out of Their Shells Tour. His armor was super-tacky, his helmet had overly large spikes and a mesh mouthpiece that was really easy to see through, and he actually wore eye-makeup. He looked like an evil, super-ugly drag queen.

*In Comic Book Guy voice*: Worst Shredder EVER.Ooh, should I be glad I've never seen that Shredder? :P

[remix17]

Maybe the cape would have looked better in a different "shade" but if you know the meanings of colors, what they symbolize, what emotions and such they draw, it makes perfect sense why Shredder wears purple over red or blue or...shudder...sexy black. He's an odd, dramatic, egotistical jerk. :P

[Sewer Bull]

Yet another forgotten Shredder - this time unused CG one from 2001.

http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/4189/shreddhead14ft.jpg

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3324/shreddhead29sw.jpg

http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/3412/shreddhead7pf.jpg

DESTROY THEM!

Badass.

[Shreddette]

Ooh, should I be glad I've never seen that Shredder? :P

I know I am.

Now I am resisting the urge to look it up. :dead:

[pwnage]

I perfer Mirage shredder. Sure, he is dead. But the emotional impact he left on all four turtles is pwnage. It gives shredder more dimension to be a bad guy.

[Big Lob]

New Toon: Hard to fear a foot-tall brain-squid-thing. No need to call the Turtles; just get an exterminator. But you gotta give him props for coming back from the "dead" repeatedly.[/B]

You know, I was watching the 3 parter the other day, and when the little red evil utron Shredder is revealed, then jumped onto Raph's head, he lost all credibility. The concept just never struck me as real. Reminded me of those old silly movies, Critters. It was too comical. Felt like a twist in some fan fiction I might have read. It ruined the prior battles for me. It was just a battle suit the turtles fought. Shredder as a human always struck me as more menacing, like in the movie, for example, when he refers to Turtles with disgust as freaks.

[Jester]

Yet another forgotten Shredder - this time unused CG one from 2001.

http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/4189/shreddhead14ft.jpg

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3324/shreddhead29sw.jpg

http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/3412/shreddhead7pf.jpg

DESTROY THEM!

Badass.
But he's purple and blue? Like a big bruse.

[remix17]

You know, I was watching the 3 parter the other day, and when the little red evil utron Shredder is revealed, then jumped onto Raph's head, he lost all credibility. The concept just never struck me as real. Reminded me of those old silly movies, Critters. It was too comical. Felt like a twist in some fan fiction I might have read. It ruined the prior battles for me. It was just a battle suit the turtles fought. Shredder as a human always struck me as more menacing, like in the movie, for example, when he refers to Turtles with disgust as freaks.

Yeah, an alien not on his own world doesn't have much right to call them freaks, like he did in the new toon's first big battle. Him being an Utrom later on just ruined the impact of that scene at the water tower, when you think about it.

[Shreddette]

But he's purple and blue? Like a big bruse.

YEAH!
Drop Dead Fred!!

That quote always cracked me up.

[Masked Ninja]

Purple and blue? That looks like dark red t'me. I think they should use red OR blue. Not both... it looks funky. I can't decide whether that Shredder is cool or not. It may be borderline. :P

[Shreddette]

Nermind, man.

[Sewer Bull]

But he's purple and blue? Like a big bruse.

Like a big bruise on turtles' lives...

He looks like a OS/movie crossover. He wouldn't be that bad, methinks.

[Serp]

http://img282.imageshack.us/img282/8367/darkdevilshredder6zu.jpg

:


Dude!!!


that pic is bursting with awsomeness

I'd like to use it in my sig.

Shortened of course.

[Sewer Bull]

Use it!:D

You want me to resize it or will do it yourself?

[Serp]

Use it!:D

You want me to resize it or will do it yourself?


COuld you, please.:)

EDIT: Wait never mind, I have it.

[ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael]

Gotta go with the new toon. The old toon Shredder wasn't really evil enough to be the definative Shredder. The Utrom twist gave Shredder a much more intresting and well need background. Plus, this new Shredder is kickass all around.

I love the new toon Shredder because he dosen't need to rely on Mutants and talking brains to help him get the job done, he's lethal. And his plans don't always involve kidnapping April and trying to conquer Earth, his schemes were much inventive. And his army was better trained, and he surrounded himself with better company. Karai, Hun, and Stockman. This new Shredder is a menace around the universe, that's saying something. He's comitted interstellar atrosities, he's an evil mastermind, and has given the TMNT beatens after beatings.

He is the Ultimate Shredder

[pwnage]

Are you guys colorblind? Adjust the gamma on your monitor, the CG Shredder is Red.

[remix17]

Gotta go with the new toon. The old toon Shredder wasn't really evil enough to be the definative Shredder. The Utrom twist gave Shredder a much more intresting and well need background. Plus, this new Shredder is kickass all around.

I love the new toon Shredder because he dosen't need to rely on Mutants and talking brains to help him get the job done, he's lethal. And his plans don't always involve kidnapping April and trying to conquer Earth, his schemes were much inventive. And his army was better trained, and he surrounded himself with better company. Karai, Hun, and Stockman. This new Shredder is a menace around the universe, that's saying something. He's comitted interstellar atrosities, he's an evil mastermind, and has given the TMNT beatens after beatings.

He is the Ultimate Shredder

I agree with your post, except for one thing--how was Old Toon Shredder NOT evil? He committed attempted murder more times than anyone cares to count, tried to enslave the planet on an almost weekly basis, and was generally bad mutha. Being evil does not mean being evilly creative, or successful, or impressive--it's merely about being evil.

[ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael]

I agree with your post, except for one thing--how was Old Toon Shredder NOT evil? He committed attempted murder more times than anyone cares to count, tried to enslave the planet on an almost weekly basis, and was generally bad mutha. Being evil does not mean being evilly creative, or successful, or impressive--it's merely about being evil.

Yes, TMNT A Shredder was evil, I know he commited attempted murder, but TMNT B Shredder has committed actual murder. He's gone all the way.

[remix17]

...the only difference is that OT Shredder failed, but not by choice. The intent was the same.

[ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael]

Yes, but New Shredder's actually done it, so that's why he's my pick. He's faithful to his Mirage counterpart in that way. Old Shredder is faithful in the look(also, that he's a human).

[Riddle_these_Skittles]

The main reason I like the Old Shredder is because I grew up watching him plot his evil plans against the turtles.

However, the new shredder brings new meaning and color to the word evil!!!!!!!!!!

[pwnage]

The new Shredder is really mean, and nasty. But he lacks dimenson, besides the fact that he was an alien. Odd, more like a gimmick than anything.

[VaughnMichael]

The new Shredder is really mean, and nasty. But he lacks dimenson, besides the fact that he was an alien. Odd, more like a gimmick than anything.
I totally agree that's how I feel about allot of The New Show Characters.
-Putrescent

[remix17]

Yeah, which is a shame, because he could have been an awesome character (not that he isn't cool, but he isn't as cool, IMHO). Old Toon Shredder wasn't always growling and getting pissed off (though he did a fair amount of that too) unlike new Shredder.

[BartAllen]

mirage shredder, because like another poster said. he was not affaird of death, and he was willing to kill himself to finish the turtles. i dont see the OT, NT, or any of the others doing that. not to say that they arent evil, they definitely are. but i still have to go with the original just for the fact.

[remix17]

New Toon died. He may not have killed himself but he was too stubborn to back down and run like hell when he had the chance.

[zkarlette]

I really like the New toon shredder he acts and looks like a good serious villian,....but I guess my favorite would be the old toon shredder cause he always made me laugh specially with all his fights with krang:)

[ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael]

New Toon died. He may not have killed himself but he was too stubborn to back down and run like hell when he had the chance.

I wouldn't call it being stubborn, he wwas trying to get the job done now, that just shows how relentless he is. Like the Turtles, he dosen't back down, he'' stay and finish the job.

[remix17]

True. But when you have a few seconds to bail out of a room before there's a big explosion, and you stick around to fight....that's [pretty stubborn. Not to mention kinda stupid.

[ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael]

I would say thats not really stupid. Most likely he was trying to keep the turtles there with him, that way, they all would die. And maybe he already knew the foot had the technology to bring him back.

[DrSpengler]

Mirage: He was in what, 5 issues total (that's counting worm-clones)? A good template, I guess, but not the best.

Archie: Never read the comics, but I want too.

Movie: I liked him in the first one, but he was too goofy in the second one.

Old Toon: He was goofy...but really funny. Awesome costume, too. Hard choice.

New Toon: This one's pure evil. I had to choose him over the old toon. Couldn't help it.

Next Mutation: Well, isn't NM the same continuity as the movies? Anyway, never watched enough of it to be sure.


So yeah, New Toon won out over Old Toon but only by a little. They're two extremely different characters, but they're both awesome for different reasons.

[ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael]

I totally agree that's how I feel about allot of The New Show Characters.
-Putrescent

You two can't be serious.

[VaughnMichael]

You two can't be serious.
You two? Who's the other one.....
I am serious though....I could actually sit and talk about each character from the new show except the regulars like Karai, & Hun who was even boring and flat when he first came into the show.
-Putrescent

[Jester]

mirage shredder, because like another poster said. he was not affaird of death, and he was willing to kill himself to finish the turtles. i dont see the OT, NT, or any of the others doing that. not to say that they arent evil, they definitely are. but i still have to go with the original just for the fact.

Leo: Shredder, you've gotta listen to reason! You'll destroy us all!
Super-Shredder: Then so be it!!!

So if that's a guage of Shredder's awesomeness, then SotO Super-Shredder ranks with Mirage. Nah!

[ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael]

You two? Who's the other one.....
I am serious though....I could actually sit and talk about each character from the new show except the regulars like Karai, & Hun who was even boring and flat when he first came into the show.
-Putrescent

So Karai and Hun we boring and shallow, while characters Rocksteady and Bebop were gods. I've heard that before and I fail to see the logic in that. Karai and Hun are really deep characters who have really come into their own since Shredder bit it. And they were intresting characters to begin with. IMHO it was the old show characters that were flat and at times boring. The new show(while unfortunatley bringing us Garbageman), has also brought us well thought out and great characters like Hun, Aganet Bishop, Drako, and Traximus

[VaughnMichael]

So Karai and Hun we boring and shallow, while characters Rocksteady and Bebop were gods. I've heard that before and I fail to see the logic in that. Karai and Hun are really deep characters who have really come into their own since Shredder bit it. And they were intresting characters to begin with. IMHO it was the old show characters that were flat and at times boring. The new show(while unfortunatley bringing us Garbageman), has also brought us well thought out and great characters like Hun, Aganet Bishop, Drako, and Traximus
Did I even mention anything about liking Bebop and or Rocksteady in any of my posts no go read actully read what I wrote....
I love Karai she is one of the best mirage characters ever and her show counter part is great.....so before you really jump the gun on people you should actully read word for word what they said.
Hun was boring and a very flat character when he first was on the show...I actully hated him......
In my opinion oddly enough now though the human characters are the best on the show Baxter being my fave....
I do agree with you about Karai, Hun, & Bishop even if he is just a giant matrix and men in black rip of I still love the character he's going to change this show for the better.....
But I must dissagree with you Drako was a rather boring character.....
Traximus I liked him in the battle nexus parts with raph and that was it.....
So look now you've gone and done it I'm going to list every character and tell you all what I really think of them in this new show
but In my own thread in the new tmnt section so go check it out and talk it up with me!!!!!!!!

[Sage Ninja]

I agree with who ever said that classic toon Shredder was evil and certainly had the intent to do evil rotten things even if he didn't succeed at them all the time. I mean he succussfully blew up the channel 6 building and didn't care if innocent people where inside it or not.

[Sonic777]

I always want to know and I know their are more shredder's but I what to know is, Who is better at being Shredder . The 87 Shredder or the 03 Shredder. I just can't decide.

[Sewer Bull]

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=14611

I think there was also another thread about Shredhead 87 vs. Shredhead 03 not so long ago.

Someone lock this one, please.

EDIT: There: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=17103 - but I think there's still another one around here.

[Sonic777]

Sorry I didn't know, I have'nt been here that long.

[jeff the cheff]

Ok but people bitch about posting in old threads sometimes too, so there is no winning.

Movie supershredder has my vote!

[Sewer Bull]

Hogwash!

http://img282.imageshack.us/img282/8367/darkdevilshredder6zu.jpg

Anime Shredder for the win.

[Sonic777]

Thanks guys.

I think I will do a different topic instead of this one.

[Ecto Jedi]

Movie supershredder has my vote!

I'd have to back you up on that one. It's a pity all he did was knock down a couple of pillars and get crushed under a pile of rubble, but he sure was cool-looking.

[Kendamu]

Mirage Shredder. He had some cool battles, was totally evil, and had a "legitimate" business fronting for the Foot Clan's activities in New York.

A close second would be movie Shredder. Particularly the first movie as he was based off of Mirage Shredder.

And, for a third, old toon Shredder. Always a classic as he was the first Shredder I ever saw.

[Ryzar]

Old Toon Shredder rules!

"I wasn't explaining it to you, I was explaining it to them [Points to Viewers]"

He was great. I don't care that he wasn't very 'dark and mysterious' all of the time. He was serious enough, but comical, and had this almost unbreakable confidence in himself that all of his plans will work. Gotta admire that. :p

BUT honorable mention to the Movie Shredder. He was quite badass.


And no offense but "New Toon" Shredder is too skinny! Would blow away in a heavy wind. :p

[Sage Ninja]

at least new shredder you get to see with out his face mask, and out of his "Shredder" get-up. That was a true shame about the old toon. You rarely ever got to shredder with out the helment and mask, or in pedistrian clothes for that manner. Because old toon Shredder had a nice face. I mean not handsome exactly but I always got excited when ever we got to see him with out the metal mask.

And old toon shredder was alot more muscular than New Shredder. But that hardly accounts for anything.

[Fang Wolf]

I voted New Toon Shredder ^^
He more evil...:)

[BigApple3AM]

I'm surprised the movie shredder is getting no love. Just a few months ago (or years, whatever) people were raving at how awesome the movie shredder is. Maybe that was for costume though and not overall.

I had to go with old toon shredder because I love comedy and like it was said before, Uncle Phil MAKES Shredder. He may have failed every time, but he was the kind of guy you would want to hang out with if he didn't doublecross you or boss you around like you were a mutant dumbass.

I loathe new toon shredder. He isn't shredder he's a pink blob, and the only pink blob I love is Krang!

Movie Shredder is my #2, but he was so short lived and he had no real personality. He was scary as hell though.

Mirage Shredder - he died in the first issue. I'd argue he was more incompetent than old toon shredder. At least old toon shredder got some victories in every once in a while (incredible shrinking turtles saga) and didn't let the turtles actually kill him, and on their first try too.

Archie - too similar to old toon. I do love issue 4 or 5 where he fights ray fillet and almost dies but ray saves his life. It was adapted into a large storybook which I remember vividly and which I love immensely.

[ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael]

The new toon Shredder. His bodycount is highr than all the other Shredder combined.

[dejawolf]

http://www.dejawolf.com/turtles/shred30.jpg

need i say more?
movie 1 shredder FTW,
if it hadn't been for his blind rat-charge, he'd wasted every single one of the turtles, starting with leo.

[Anarky]

The new toon Shredder. His bodycount is highr than all the other Shredder combined.

May I say that this is a weak argument, since we never actually got any statistics on the killings the Shredder did? So your main argument is flawed from point zero.

MY favourite Shredder... depends on which aspect we're looking at. Old Toon Shredder is awesome because he's Old Toon Shredder. He was a piece of my youth and that's a huge bonus. New Toon Shredder is probably closest to what Mirage Shredder would do if he were still alive being a nasty SOB and all. But then again, he tries too hard to be this evil, nasty creature from beyond hemorrhoids from hell. Sometimes he strikes me like the Linkin Park of the TMNT.

Ah, screw this, I'll go with Old Toon Shredder.

[Spawn Guy]

The true Shredder from the Lost Season had the best looking outfit and was a bigger threat than any other incarnation.

[Sage Ninja]

can some one here give me a run down on what anime Shredder was like? Was he anything like old Shredder or was he more threatening or was he more comical? Also can I see a few picks of him?

[DrSpengler]

can some one here give me a run down on what anime Shredder was like? Was he anything like old Shredder or was he more threatening or was he more comical? Also can I see a few picks of him?

He was mostly like old toon Shredder only, due to it being anime, was more prone to outrageous wild takes.

Like in the Metal Mutants OVA, once Krang warps him to Japan and he realizes his surroundings, Shredder gets ll nostalgic for his homeland, clasps his hands and swoons.

In the Super Mutant OVA, when Krang tells him that after Earth is destroyed they can live in Dimension X, Shredder does a stereotypical anime "WIGGA WHA!?!" kind of wild take.

http://www.ninjaturtles.com/clips/anim1.jpg

Here's Metal Mutants Shredder, or his head, anyway. Got it from Ninja Turtles.com

You can see clips, here:

http://www.ninjaturtles.com/html/clips.htm

You Tube clip, very brief (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpTFaPYbdjY)

You Tube clip of Super Mutant Turtles opening (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQAQohS0On4&mode=related&search=)