What Daredevil villian did Shredder evolve from?

[ninjaturtles]

I read someplace that the Shredder came from a Marvel's Daredevil villian. But, I do not know which villian. Does anybody know?

Thanks,
Daniel

[Karpo_007]

I haven't read much of Daredevil, only enemy I kno is King Ping and it is sure that it didnt come from him.

[MzTheInsomniac]

they only got the idea of the ninja turtles themselves from the daredevil comics

[Jephael]

Actually, Shredder was an original character. When they were designing the idea for the villian, Kevin was playing with a rectangular cheese grater, sliding his hand in and the small blades gave him the idea for Shredder's gauntlet.

[Nturtle]

lol!!! :lol: "A kitchen utensil?"

[heretic888]

yup. Shredder's original name was 'Grate Man'.

[MzTheInsomniac]

grate man sounds so...so evil :lol:

[Nickokapo]

Grate man...sounds like a megaman boss name.
*nes music starts to play*GRATE MAN*stops*
Gawd...i can't believe the idea of shredder came from kevin playing with a kitchen utensil :goofygri:
Well now i know of one more way to insult the gratehead :D

[krzysztof]

The concept of TMNT came mostly from Marvel's Daredevil and X-Men comics. The ninja aspects were taken from Daredevil characters like Elektra and Bullseye, the "teenage mutant" part was a from X-Men's teenage mutants. I have no idea how Turtles came into the mix, but if you haven't seen the first drawings that Kevin & Peter did you should defintely check them out.

Has anyone ever read Adolescent Radioactive Black Belt Hamsters? It was a TMNT parody that wasn't very funny or well drawn.

[Wingnut]

I found no humor in ARBB,but i do wonder where the turtle concept came from? :-?

[PWDESAI]

splinter evolved from "stick" who was from daredevil. The turtles were taken from some ronchy movie and the name from daredevil and x-men. Hope that clears stuff up.

[Wingnut]

i also found that the name "foot" is a mockery of the x-men tribe the "hand" who revived Omega Red. Interesting.

[Karpo_007]

Yes the first issue was a parody of the main stream comics of that time. But after the huge success they started to take it seriously.

[Sparvid]

The ninja clan The Hand is from Miller's Daredevil run.

[Wingnut]

and from the x-men, i have the comic

[Apple Cat]

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[Nickokapo]

The creative duo wrote an origin story that parodied Frank Miller's Daredevil and Ronin series, comics that Kevin and Peter held in high esteem.

[PWDESAI]

yes it does young applecat, the creators were big readers of marvel, they developed most of their ideas from daredevil and some from x-men, and then they made up the rest.

[Karpo_007]

Like I said, The first issue was Parody of DareDevil and Ronin series.

[Sparvid]

and from the x-men, i have the comicYes, but Miller created the Hand. Later Claremont (or maybe it was Jim Lee at the time...) used them in X-Men.

[Apple Cat]

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[ChibiKasai]

Hey, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it kinda implied in the TMNT origin that the ooze that mutated the turtles is actually the same stuff that gave Matt Murdock/Daredevil his special abilities?

[xZAOx]

in the origin of the turtles, a young man knocks a blind man out of the way of a truck. a canister (the ooze) bounces out of the truck and hits the young man in the side of the head, making him blind. that young man you may better know as...THE DAREDEVIL!!!

now you know...the rest of the story!

http://www.boutwellonline.com/rob/hmm.jpg

parody? no way!! :P

[ninjaturtles]

I really believe Shredder was inspired from this guy. Either that or Wolverine or the Blade.

[Sparvid]

in the origin of the turtles, a young man knocks a blind man out of the way of a truck. a canister (the ooze) bounces out of the truck and hits the young man in the side of the head, making him blind. that young man you may better know as...THE DAREDEVIL!!!In Daredevil, young Matt Murdock gets it by a radioactive canister in the eyes, making him blind.
In TMNT, some young guy gets hit by a canister near the eyes, making him go "Ow!" :P