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Raph's Girl
05-11-2006, 01:01 PM
David Paetkau would like to call the odd-looking bear discovered in the N.W.T. in the spring of 2006 a "pizzly," but the geneticist who confirmed the creature was a hybrid grizzly/polar bear, lost out in the office pool to "grizzlar."

"I think people thought it was more dramatic," he says, sounding disappointed.

Paetkau says the creature was likely the offspring of a grizzly who "lowered his standards" and such cross-species creatures may be more common than most of us think.

Jim Martell, a sport hunter from the United States, was on a guided hunt when he shot the animal on April 16, 2006, near Nelson Head on southern Banks Island, 2,000 kilometres north of Edmonton.

Martell thought he'd shot a polar bear, but on closer inspection he and his Inuit guide, Roger Kuptana, discovered the creature had unusual features. Its white fur was mottled with brown patches, and thin circles of black skin rimmed its eyes. It also sported the grizzly's distinctive long claws and humped back.

"Hybridization does happen," says Paetkau, of Nelson, B.C.-based Wildlife Genetics International. "In the case of grizzly bears and polar bears, they're two of the most closely-related species you can imagine."

The bears likely separated into two distinct species sometime between one million and 100,000 years ago, a mere blip on the evolutionary time scale.

And because their territories abut one another, it's entirely possible there are other hybrids out there, even though this bear was the first of its kind ever discovered in the wild. (Zoos in Russia and the United States have successfully bred the two species.)

"It may not be a first and it may not be unusual. When you have a sample size of one, it's hard to tell," says Paetkau.

He suspects the hybrid bear was the offspring of a desperate grizzly male driven by biological urges to mate with a polar bear because he could find no females of his own kind in the high Arctic.

"Once you can’t find anyone of your own species to mate with, you perhaps lower your standards," says Paetkau.

But the geneticist worries about the implications for biological diversity.

If global warming is driving grizzlies farther north into polar bear territory, as some locals and scientists believe, there's a possibility that polar bear genes may disappear as the two species interbreed.

"Polar bears could lose their distinction," he says.

"The trickle of grizzlies going north is turning into a stream. The hybrid event might be more common than we know."

But cross-species romance isn't confined to polar and grizzly bears.

In Ontario, trysts between coyotes and wolves have led to hybrid offspring. While it's certainly the exception, it happens most often in places where their territories overlap, says Paetkau.

And red wolves, considered a distinct species, may in fact be descendants of coyote/wolf hybrids.

The same thing happens among wild cats.

"Where lynx are at a lower density, they'll interbreed with bobcats. This happens in the lower 48 states [of the U.S.]," says Paetkau.

Black bears and grizzlies have also been known to produce cubs, but their genes are different enough that offspring are infertile, like mules, which are a cross between a horse and donkey.

But scientists say because grizzlies and polar bears are so genetically close, their offspring are almost certainly fertile.

Meanwhile, Ian Sterling, Canada's leading polar bear expert, says if the bear in the North West Territories was the result of lowered standards, it was "not like bumping into each other in a singles bar."

Mom and dad still managed to spend anywhere from a week to 10 days together, mating over and over again.

"It takes several days before the female will allow him near enough to mate. And when they do get together, they will mate over a number of days," says Stirling.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/wildlife/

Ryona
05-11-2006, 01:17 PM
That's pretty interesting.

I say we should have fun with this...
Let's start mixing animals together to get interesting results. We should cross-breed a beaver with a duck.
I wonder what that would look like...

Sewer Bull
05-11-2006, 01:33 PM
Like a platypus?


Mom and dad still managed to spend anywhere from a week to 10 days together, mating over and over again.

"It takes several days before the female will allow him near enough to mate. And when they do get together, they will mate over a number of days," says Stirling.


My word... That's not just mating - that's a whole orgiastic marathon.
Bears are licentious animals.

Jester
05-11-2006, 01:37 PM
"Let's get it on..."

Man...I say we cross breed a turkey and a pig...then we could really have turkey bacon and turkey ham...*shrugs*

Katie
05-11-2006, 01:48 PM
Lowering his standards......:lol:


Maybe the grizzly just liked the polar bear...maybe it was true love....maybe he likes polar bears better than grizzlies....cause you know...all the grizzly chicks were making fun of him...yeah, that's it, and the poor grizzly was kinda sad and the polar bear was all nice to him...and they fell in love.... :D


That's kinda neat...to think that hybridization goes on in the wild. I really wonder how many more interspecies crosses there are out there in the wild

Raph's Girl
05-11-2006, 02:36 PM
I read a web comic called Kevin and Kell.

It's about a Rabbit who's married to a Wolf.

The whole family is kinda fraked up.

Kell's brother (she's the wolf) got it on with a sheep and they had a daughter who looks like a sheep but has Wolf tendancies (she's dating another Wolf)

Kell's first husband was a red fox (he died when a Moost stepped on him). She has a son from that marriage.

Kevin and Kell have a rabbit/wolf daughter. She looks like a rabbit but acts like a wolf (she eats everything! :lol: )

They have an adopted daughter who's a Hedgehog (Lindsfarn's BF is a bat! )

Rudy (the wolf/fox) has a GF named Fiona. She's a red fox/fennec (an African Fox like species).

Fiona's father is married to Kevin's sister. And they're expecting their first child. So there'll soon be a Fennec/Rabbit mix. :lol:

http://www.kevinandkell.com/index.html

Sea World has a couple Wolfins (half Whale/half Dolphin). They thought their first Wolfin was sterile but she had a baby with a normal Dolphin.

I have also read about Zeedonks/Zonkzys which are the sterile offspring of a Zebra and Donkey.

Not to mention all the Ligers and Tigons there are in zoo's.

Jester
05-11-2006, 02:43 PM
"It's a liger. It's pretty much my favorite animal. It's bred for it's skill in magic."
http://www.parrotjungle.com/images/animal/liger.jpg
Those things may be sterial, but they are freakin' huge!

KROW
05-11-2006, 11:46 PM
Frog + Toad = Froad; weighs 10 lbs., drinks beer, and croaks the word, "Bud."
Penguin + Peacock = Peaguin; can survive sub-zero temperatures and sports not only a cool tuxedo coat, but a set of flashy ties
Hyena + Jackal = Heckle; carniverous scavenger that laughs while it eats and occasionally plays the odd prank on lions
Goat + Sheep = Shoat; innovative farm animal that gives clothing and milk

Raph's Girl
05-12-2006, 12:41 AM
Goat + Sheep = Shoat; innovative farm animal that gives clothing and milk

Actually Goat/Sheep are called Geep. Shoat's are what baby pigs are called.

Here's images of a Geep:
http://www.greenapple.com/~jorp/amzanim/t-of-bots.jpg
http://www.greenapple.com/~jorp/amzanim/geep02.jpg
http://www.greenapple.com/~jorp/amzanim/geep.jpg
http://www.greenapple.com/~jorp/amzanim/geep03.jpg

Here's a Cama (Camel/Lama):
http://www.greenapple.com/~jorp/amzanim/cama.jpg

Here's a Zetland Zony(Zebra/Shetland Pony):
http://www.greenapple.com/~jorp/amzanim/zetland.jpg

KROW
05-12-2006, 01:04 AM
Well, hey, thanks for ruining the joke.

damnhooligan
05-12-2006, 12:53 PM
Pizzly, Geep, Zetland Zucking Zony. This is why I hate portmanteaus.

Ecto Jedi
05-17-2006, 07:17 PM
Stephen Colbert of The Colbert Report insists that bears are breeding with other types of their species in order to create a race of "superbears" that will attack our cities and take over the world. You've been warned.

Ra
05-20-2006, 03:47 AM
I would love to have a Blizzard - A bear crossed with a lizard :lol: