Transformers - Please Use Spoiler Tags

[Peanut]

Yeah, but Spitfire....Don't you like Hellsing?

That made your opinion null and void.

Just joshing, but seriously.

No you aren't. Seriously, if anyone in this forum has awful taste, it's Spitfire. Just leave him to complain about how everything is awful and only un-talented metal bands should be doing everything.

[VaughnMichael]

How in the world did you forget to put the Inspector Gadget movie in that list?
thanks I had burnt that from my brain *gets out fiery hot pokers*:dead:

[ZariusTwo]

That's something I notice with every fandom when they hear that a movie's being made: They instantly hate everything they see, because it differs from what they're used to.

Stop using the "they can't accept change" excuse, it sucks, it kills arguments dead, and it's not stopped me from enjoying certain movies other people have scorned, because I can look past them...when there minimal and don't affect the core of what the series was about.

Street Fighter is an example of what not to do in this case, Mortal Kombat is an example of what to do. I did'nt like SF from the previews, I loved MK from the previews. The latter did'nt dissapoint when I watched it, because it was familiar ground realized tremendously.

Transformers is Street Fighter. It's changed to such a degree it's unrecognisble, learn to accept sometimes fans DO know better than you on what does or does'nt work for a movie based on a franchise they hold in as high a regard as Star Wars, Doctor Who, and Star Trek, and we'll be a lot happier.


And I just don't think that this is such a good idea. I mean, why get hung up on details when the larger picture is quite awesome

The larger picture is Peter Cullen voicing another veichle, in other words, it means nothing, just something to attract nerds, it takes a little more to convince die hard real Transfans than promising us our favourate candy produced in a cheap new factory. I feel more sorry for Frank Welker actually

(see the "Juggernaut is not a mutant"-debate while X-Men III was playing). Flames or no flames, what does it matter? As long as Optimus is Optimus, I could live with him having a snorkel and a silly hat.

That's the problem with "realist hollywood" movie fans. They don't care...and that just sickens me

Besides, we'll get giant robots trashing stuff. How awesome is that?


I've seen it every week on Power Rangers. I want to see giant robots having a war and dealing with that with some soul.

Who the hell wants to see a live-action Go-Bots?

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

The X-Men are my favorite comic book characters, and the "Juggernaut isn't a mutant" thing doesn't bother me one bit. To tell you the truth, I always assumed he was a mutant for the longest time (hey just because I'm a fan doesn't mean I've read everything). It has played a big role in the comics from time to time but in the context of the movie the Gym of Cytorak thing would make things more confusing than it needs to be.

If anything was a bummer about the movie for me, it was that it was too short. Really, I would have sat through another half hour if it meant that we would see plenty of Colossus, Angel, and some more Shadowcat. The deaths of certain characters I thought meant the writers didn't care about their potential, but it didn't ruin the movie for me because overall I thought it was pretty good.

I haven't been a "Transfan" since I was in elementary school to be honest, so I'm still looking forward to this from the aspect of seeing giant robots duking it out. The Michael Bay aspect has me worried, but I'll give it the benefit of the doubt until I see the movie.

[VaughnMichael]

Who the hell wants to see a live-action Go-Bots?
I wouldn't but would like to see a live action Rock Lords Movie.:D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v361/AbbyStract/rockad.jpg

[DrSpengler]

Funny, I just reviewed that movie (http://www.filmsy.com/reviews/gobots-battle-of-the-rock-lords/), yesterday.

Rock Lords: Awesome toys, terrible movie.

[Spitfire]

How in the world did you forget to put the Inspector Gadget movie in that list?

I tried to forget it even existed thanks! haha

Yes Brodie I like the Hellsing*Manga* and the new series seems to be pretty good on following it thus far. Though it can be boring basically watching exactly what I read.

But is Hellsing a movie? No what are we talking about, books and TV shows, or movies? I think were talking about movies.

If that was the case then your opinion is void for liking the uninspired SAW 3. And that at least pertains to movies.

And I could go off on why X-men 3 is a peice of crap but that's a little off topic.

[Brodie]

X3 did blow compaired to X2, but thats besides the point. But I guess my point is void because I liked the actual movie that was Saw3, compaired to the music video that was Saw2.

I'm glad we can talk about things like this, like the birds and the bees, Son.

[Spitfire]

X3 did blow compaired to X2, but thats besides the point. But I guess my point is void because I liked the actual movie that was Saw3, compaired to the music video that was Saw2.

I'm glad we can talk about things like this, like the birds and the bees, Son.

Trust me no SAW movie has done anything for me. The first one was a giggle, the others were a snore.

[VaughnMichael]

Funny, I just reviewed that movie (http://www.filmsy.com/reviews/gobots-battle-of-the-rock-lords/), yesterday.

Rock Lords: Awesome toys, terrible movie.

haha I agree 100% I was so let down as a kid..but I was even more let down that I could never find all the toys I even wanted the girl rock lord cause she was clear or something like that.

[VaughnMichael]

Trust me no SAW movie has done anything for me. The first one was a giggle, the others were a snore.
haha seriously the acting in the first movie was so bad I couldn't tell if people had been laughing or crying in the movie half the damn time.
So I haven't wasted my time or money on either of the others.
And it seems to me like all 3 movies are ripping off the work of the amazing videographer Floria Sigismondi which is stupid people need to get their own styck and stop ripping off others.

[Anarky]

There were actually robots that transformed into rocks? ROCKS? What good is that? I mean, Rocks are immobile, ugly and downright stupid... Did they ever give an explanation for that?

[VaughnMichael]

There were actually robots that transformed into rocks? ROCKS? What good is that? I mean, Rocks are immobile, ugly and downright stupid... Did they ever give an explanation for that?
lmao yea I think it was some accient thing orother who knows..does it matter:lol:
grr I'm the angry man *shakes fist at cloud*
anyway they aren't just rocks they are robots built into rocks from what I remember and erm they arent just all rocks they were gems and bright shinney and stuff ooooo purdy!:D

[DrSpengler]

Ratchet's robot design has been leaked:

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=116584

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/imagehosting/441824571197aa1587.jpg

[Mecha Cow]

Would it kill them to at least add faces?

And are they still sticking to the 'leaked' facade? It's pretty obvious this stuff is shown on purpose.

[Anarky]

Nice, I like it. Seriously, I do.

And yes, if Murphy only made half of his threats true to fire whoever leaked whatever's been leaked, then there'd be no people on this movie or it's merchandise left at all.

[ZariusTwo]

Would it kill them to at least add faces?

And are they still sticking to the 'leaked' facade? It's pretty obvious this stuff is shown on purpose.

If it were deliberate, then there not getting the reactions they want from real Transfans.

[Anarky]

Wait, when you talk about faces, are you talking about human faces? Or more like the faces they had way back in the day? See, I think the redesigns are kind of awesome. They have faces and they look neat, if you ask me.

[ZariusTwo]

Those are'nt faces, there feces

[Mecha Cow]

It would be nice if they had eyes and a mouth, at least. I guess they could have 'liquid metal' human-like faces, but the designs seem to be moving in a more alien direction. Either way, I think their heads look a bit too alien and mechanical, and it's kind of hard to identify with a character that just has a bobbing box for a head (See: Movie Green Goblin).

[Raph's Girl]

Ratchett looks like he has a beak

[ZariusTwo]

It would be nice if they had eyes and a mouth, at least. I guess they could have 'liquid metal' human-like faces, but the designs seem to be moving in a more alien direction. Either way, I think their heads look a bit too alien and mechanical, and it's kind of hard to identify with a character that just has a bobbing box for a head (See: Movie Green Goblin).

Precisly, the reason several movies that are remade from series are succesful financially is because they have something from the original product that is'nt tampered with. Miami Vice has a cover of "In The Air Tonight", it's from the guy who gave the series it's vision and tone, Dukes of Hazzard had the General Lee (and it gets better when you watch it, a few nitpicks aside, it actually is true to the series), Spider-Man's rouges gallery are maintained truthfully (Goblin was minus his purple clothing, but that's easily understandable)

TF does not have any recognisible assests to it other than Peter Cullen voicing Prime, and Cullen used the same voice for K.A.R.R in Knight Rider, so it does'nt matter what he voices, if it does'nt look like Prime, it's not Prime, just another giant robot.

[TerranigmaFreak]

Ratchet's robot design has been leaked:

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=116584

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/imagehosting/441824571197aa1587.jpg

OMG!!! It's General Traag from Dimension X!!!! He's coming to battle the Transformers!!! I didn't know they plan on doing a crossover with the 2 series!!! That's awesome!!!!

Wait... what? That's Ratchet!? Nah, I think you're mistaken, I think it's General Traag.

[ZariusTwo]

Looks like a Rock Lord actually.

[VaughnMichael]

Looks like a Rock Lord actually.

haha actully yea it kinda does but with less personality haha:lol:
Oddly enough Zarius did you know Bandi(sp) the power ranger toy company had released the rocklord toys I always thought it was tonka or something but it says Bandi(sp) on the foot of the toys *shruggs*

[DrSpengler]

haha actully yea it kinda does but with less personality haha:lol:
Oddly enough Zarius did you know Bandi(sp) the power ranger toy company had released the rocklord toys I always thought it was tonka or something but it says Bandi(sp) on the foot of the toys *shruggs*

They were released in America through Tonka but they were developed by Bandai. The original Machine Robo toys were also created by Bandai but released in the West as the Go-Bots by Tonka.

[VaughnMichael]

They were released in America through Tonka but they were developed by Bandai. The original Machine Robo toys were also created by Bandai but released in the West as the Go-Bots by Tonka.

ah thats it Bandai lol thanks and it seems that company sure likes things that can change.

[DrSpengler]

ah thats it Bandai lol thanks and it seems that company sure likes things that can change.

Yeah, considering the Bandai guys were simultaneously working on stuff for Macross, I think they developed the Machine Robo toys on their lunchbreak.

[DrSpengler]

And the images just KEEP ON COMIN'!

This time you can see photos of Brawl, Barricade w/ Frenzy and 70's Bumblebee's toys, final product.

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=116823

I rather like Barricade, though Frenzy leaves a bit to be desired.

Brawl isn't terrible and bumblebee is pretty much what we've seen before.

[Peanut]

Why do they all look like frigging insects? I don't mind so much that their bodies are a mess of crap, but I really don't like what they've done with any of the faces.

[Raven]

WTF? Those look horrible! No really.....just blah.

I'm hope they look far better when animated.

[Mecha Cow]

Hey, at least they look better than the actual movie designs...kind of.

[FireFly]

Cgi pic of barricade

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=116918

i really hope this guy gets in to the next RF toyline i really would to have a more normal looking one to put by may dep forces

[Anarky]

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/imagehosting/441824576db674a51f.jpg

Barricade. For those who are click-lazy.

[Peanut]

See, it just looks like a retarded monster. These designs have no character. They're so...I don't even know what the word is, but terrible and depressing both come to mind.

[Dr. Doom]

I believe the correct word to describe those 2 things is "Rhen".

[DrSpengler]

http://cgi.ebay.com.cn/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280057587612&ih=018&category=753&tc=photo

Scorponok toy. He transforms...sorta....a little...

[Mecha Cow]

Aaand that might very well be the worst design yet. Just...Sad.

Also, why the hell is he 'disguised' as a giant robotic scorpion? That makes no sense at all. And no, I don't care if they did it in the cartoon, this is a movie.

[DrSpengler]

Aaand that might very well be the worst design yet. Just...Sad.

Also, why the hell is he 'disguised' as a giant robotic scorpion? That makes no sense at all. And no, I don't care if they did it in the cartoon, this is a movie.

He's supposedly a "terror weapon" designed by Megatron or something. I've been avoiding script spoilers for the most part.

I don't think it's intended to be a disguise.

[Anarky]

I really like Barricade.

And I'll wait until I've seen a movie version of Scorponok. You never know, with applied special effects this eyecancer-causing depression of a colourblind man might just look fine.

The thing with those "disguises" has me intrigued now. You know, I've never seen the original toon or any of the following version, aside from Beast Wars which I watched on and off. So, why do they transform? To move freely around without being noticed? Or to get from point A to point B faster than they would in transformed mode? If it's the latter, then I can more or less see why a giant robotic scorpion (which is, I admit, not the best camouflage known to mankind) could be useful.

[Mecha Cow]

Well, the tagline is 'Robots in disguise', so I'm guessing it's to...well, disguise themselves. Also, I don't know much about the original cartoon, but in Beast Wars they adopted Alt. modes because they'd malfunction if they stayed in Robot mode too long or something.

[PsychoJoe]

The last few days have been full of more Transformers news and leaked pics, but since the concept pics of Ratchet and Barricade have already been posted here I'll post the other pics.

Here are pics of the toy versions of Barricade, Bumblebee, brawl, and that were on sale on Ebay:

Barricade:
http://img306.imageshack.us/img306/2924/6f811pc6.jpg
http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/4299/200612050305391jj3.jpg
http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200612050305501bj2.jpg

Bumblebee:
http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=96f61oe8.jpg
http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200612050306141ip8.jpg
http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200612050306061vi3.jpg

Brawl:
http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200612050306331ds7.jpg
http://img336.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200612050305231fn7.jpg

Here are newly rendered images of Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, and Megatron:

http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=44182457449ed94457fp6.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4418245744c9236ee6ts6.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4418245744c920ea6ejs7.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4418245744c91f26fbrs5.jpg

This is a pic of a possible new poster(not sure if it's official or fan made):
http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=movieposter2ly6sf5.jpg

Here is concept art of Optimus Prime crashing to earth in his Cybertronian mode/Protoform:
http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=livemovieprimelandsli6.jpg

And there is news that the new trailer should be out at the end of December around by the weekend of the 22nd of December. Possibly shown before the movies Rocky Balboa, or Night at the Museum.

Here is a link to the article at tformers.com:
http://tformers.com/article.php?sid=6526

Here is a link to the forum at Michael Bay's site:
http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1277

BTW: I really like the designs of Ratchet and Barricade so far.

[FireFly]

.....ok i really like the bumblebee, prime ,the poster ,and art pics megs could still be better oh well.

[Anarky]

.....ok i really i'm like the bb,op ,the poster ,and art pics megs could still be better oh well I'm really sorry to tell you this, but I didn't understand a word of what you just said.

[Raph's Girl]

Possibly shown before the movies Rocky Balboa, or Night at the Museum.

Possibly shown before 2 movies that hardly anybody will even watch??? :ohwell: I MIGHT go see Rocky Balboa...but that's only cuz I've seen all the other Rocky movies and I've heard lots of good reviews on it. Night At The Museum looks stupid. I mean come on...at night all the displays in a history museum come to life??? :roll:

[Brodie]

Yes, and no movie based on a children's book is ever good, and always aren't good because it looks stupid. Like Jumanji. Or Charlie and The Chocolate Factory, or...GAH. My heads gonna explode. I can't believe you said Rocky Balboa would take precedent over the other.

[VaughnMichael]

Possibly shown before 2 movies that hardly anybody will even watch??? :ohwell: I MIGHT go see Rocky Balboa...but that's only cuz I've seen all the other Rocky movies and I've heard lots of good reviews on it. Night At The Museum looks stupid. I mean come on...at night all the displays in a history museum come to life??? :roll:
and you watcha show about mutated walking talking ninja turtles rmember true believer anything is possible!:lol:

[BigApple3AM]

Rocky Balboa, I only wish they do a midnight screening. I'll be down at the digital theater, I wonder if they're already preselling tickets?

Night at the museum is the one kids movie I saw the trailer for and went "not bad at all". It totally reminds me of the movies that were coming out in the 90's like Jumanji. Still I think it's a rental when it comes out on dvd.

[Dr. Doom]

Possibly shown before 2 movies that hardly anybody will even watch??? :ohwell: I MIGHT go see Rocky Balboa...but that's only cuz I've seen all the other Rocky movies and I've heard lots of good reviews on it. Night At The Museum looks stupid. I mean come on...at night all the displays in a history museum come to life??? :roll:

Don't be silly, both of those movies will easily top the box office. Rocky is a cultural icon, and Night at the Musuem seems to be your typical popcorn movie that grosses millions in it's sleep.

[Spitfire]

Possibly shown before 2 movies that hardly anybody will even watch??? :ohwell: I MIGHT go see Rocky Balboa...but that's only cuz I've seen all the other Rocky movies and I've heard lots of good reviews on it. Night At The Museum looks stupid. I mean come on...at night all the displays in a history museum come to life??? :roll:

Like anyone is going to watch Unaccompanied Minors, or watched Ant Bully

[FireFly]

honestly i was going to see both of those movies anyway so the thought of the transformers trailer being aired just sweetins the deal

[PsychoJoe]

Spoiler Warning:

Here is a updated pic of Scorponok:

http://img334.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scorponokbighz6.jpg

This pic looks like ILM has put some more finishing touches on the CGI on Scorponok. Looks pretty cool so far.

[DrSpengler]

He's got googly Cookie Monster eyes!

But that does look cool. I just hope those aren't actually his eyes.

[PsychoJoe]

The new TF movie trailer will be available on the internet on Wednesday, December, 20.

Here are some links about the announcement of the new trailer:
http://www.canmag.com/news/4/3/6067

http://tformers.com/Transformers-Mov...6876/news.html

At the movie section on Yahoo.com, the trailer will be available to be viewed on the 20th. At the Transfomers movie section there is a countdown to the release of the trailer. Here is a link:
http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/transformers.html;_ylt=A9htftL3kIdFJX8AyABfVXcA

Producer Don Murphy and Director Michael Bay have made comments about the upcoming trailer:

Don Murphy's comments:
http://tformers.com/article.php?sid=6894

HEAD STOOGE: The Last Sunday Post of 06, Now On Saturday
Come gather ye Stooges and Hear a New Tale….

This will likely be the last posting of 2006. I am basically gonna miss Christmas this year, since Susan and I are knee deep in WHILE SHE WAS OUT, prepping in Vancouver for a February shoot. We hope to go right from that into FACES OF DEATH, and then who knows what next year will bring. (WE 3 ? Yes Please!) If it is a year like 2006, then please, more, more!

SHOOT-EM-UP is now tentatively scheduled for September 7, 2007. The film is amazing, exciting and funny as ****. Can’t wait to show you the new trailer.

The TRANSFORMERS trailer comes out December 20th online. I’m not going to hype it. If it doesn’t silence the haters, nothing will. The reality is that this film comes out July 4th, 2007, and the producers and the studio are already talking sequel. We know what we have is an exciting and amazing summer blockbuster.

The Don Murphy Message Board was set up by a fan of mine to discuss my movies. Soon, certainly by the new year, there will be a banner on top of the page advising that Transformers discussion should be moved to http://www.transformersmovie.com. I mean, you can post whatever you want wherever you want I guess…except there is no point anymore. The film is shot. The first director’s cut comes in next week. ILM is rendering the film. We all think that the film kicks ass. But, no matter what you post, it isn’t changing. All the polls in the world no longer make a difference. It seems to make more sense to discuss the movie on the movie site.

I know that from the beginning of this board, I have done my utmost best to make the fan base as happy as I possibly could. You guys demanded Cullen and despite resistance from some quarters he is in there. I feel Welker will hopefully come in there as well. There were things you wanted that frankly made no sense in a live action movie. And there were things I could not deliver, because I was only one voice among many. I think the board served its purpose and along the way created a community and for that I am most grateful.

I hope you’ll all have a great Holiday Season and be good to one another out there. Make the internet a little less hatefilled. Enjoy movies that look good. Enjoy your families and take care, and hang tight, Stooges, hang tight.


Michael Bay's comments he posted on his message board:
http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1302

It has been awhile since I've posted. Finished shooting end of Sept., on budget, just came under $300,000. I beat Pearl by a $100,000. I had a great time making this movie, the cast and crew were amazing.

Today I just finished the new teaser for Christmas and I think it's AWESOME! The trailer mixing Guru who does all the big summer movies turned to me and said with a little more ump - it was "****ing awesome".

I think some of my films have had good teasers but this one is just makes a statement. It's hard edged to show we are not a silly "toy" movie. We show just hints of robots - and almost none of our epic shots are in this teaser, but the movie just looks big. I had a room full of 20 Tranformers adult geeks, and they all applauded at the end.

It comes out the 22nd - see it in the theater! Let me know what you think.

Michael Bay

[ZariusTwo]

The first official trailer

http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/transformers/

Seriously, if this WAS'NT called Transformers, how many people would give a s*it about this movie? Honestly?

[Anarky]

Horrible! Hor-rible! Whatever were they thinking? Seriously? God dammit. Just look at the top-notch CGI! Doesn't it make you want to vomit? And the beautiful transforming sequences with so much attention to the details? It makes me sick just to think of it. Really. Whoever thought this movie was a good idea? I mean, just look at this abomination! Eugh!

For all those who don't want to go over Yahoo, here's the direct link: http://video.vividas.com/CDN1/5029_paramount/en/web/

[ZariusTwo]

Horrible! Hor-rible! Whatever were they thinking? Seriously? God dammit. Just look at the top-notch CGI! Doesn't it make you want to vomit? And the beautiful transforming sequences with so much attention to the details? It makes me sick just to think of it. Really. Whoever thought this movie was a good idea? I mean, just look at this abomination! Eugh!]

...God, you must REALLY love that 1998 Godzilla movie to say crap like that, I can't beleive how desperate the "Trans-Fans" are when it comes to something as flimsy as that trailer, watch a movie that gives a damn about the fans, like Rocky Balboa

[Anarky]

Hey, I never even owned more than three Transformers and I have no clue about the fandom and who thinks what and who and what's to hate this week. So I'm just a guy who sees this movie without knowing anything about it aside from the fact that there's toys around.

But it is horrible, I said it up there. You even quoted me. That will easily be the worst movie ever made.

[Peanut]

It wasn't a great trailer, but it wasn't horrible either. Doesn't make me any more excited to see the movie, but...I don't know. It just didn't make an impact either way.

[Dr. Doom]

Folks, Anarky was TRYING to be sarcastic there, just as a heads up. What he fails to realize is that while he can see the film from a totally objective point of view, there are fans of Transformers all over the world who have their little hearts set on seeing their favorite characters brought to life the way that they know them best, and that's not exactly happening to a T with this film. I'm just saying they're justified or anything, that's just the way it works. It happens with like every movie with a subject that includes a pre-existing fanbase.

[DrSpengler]

Well, one thing about being a Transformers fan (I loathe the term "transfan") is that you have to be able to adapt to change.

The Transformers brand "re-invents" itself every season or so and has been doing so since G1. Characters get upgrades, characters look different, news toys etc.

Then starting with G2, Machine Wars, Beast Wars and Robots in Disguise, the names of the characters were recycled but the characters themselves are completely new.

Armada/Energon/Cybertron was more of this in spades.


So, as a Transformers fan, I look at this movie as pretty much the same schtick. Familiar names, totally different characters, but STILL Transformers.

It's not G1, we may have been promised G1 at some point, I dunno, but as it stands, this movie is a brand new continuity featuring brand new characters, some with familiar names.

The Transformers brand has been doing it that way for over a decade, this approach is nothing new.


Now, from a "general movie goer" perspective, someone who hasn't even glanced int he direction of the Transformers since G1, I can see how they might be put off. Their last impression of Optimus was as a big red flat-nosed semi who turned into a blocky robot.

And I suppose, it's the general audience that matters most, as they comprise the vast majority of ticket sales.

[PsychoJoe]

WOW!!! That was amazing! I'm really excited to see this movie in July. The transformations look great. That was really cool seeing a quick glimpse of Optimus Prime transforming. I'm pumped for 7/4/07!

Does anyone have screenshots from the trailer?

[ZariusTwo]

Well, one thing about being a Transformers fan (I loathe the term "transfan") is that you have to be able to adapt to change.

Adapting to change is'nt the problem, Transformers fans have adapted to plenty of change before this, the post-movie third season, Beast Wars, the Jap Crap, so that's kind of a weak argument.

What I think I'm seeing for the first time is that there are simply a lot of Transformers fans who just...don't get the franchise. At all. The core of what this movie could have meant has gone right over their heads, and there just supporting anything with the word attached to it. They sold out. Plain and simple.

Compare this to TMNT, Superman Returns, and Rocky Balboa, the people behind them actually give a s*it about their fans and the franchise mythology, and those films do have significant changes to them in a gradually big way, their fans adapted to those changes and were rewarded by what they got.

Even the Jap crap kept the core of the show's identity, the format's identity, and made the robots look as similar to the designs as possible. This. Does'nt. And it's blatant that it does'nt, yet more and more I see flat out denial from people that, in all regards, should know better than this, are we THIS depraved now as a fandom of Transformers to just like...ANYTHING with the name? Like banging an LA whore because she's called Cindie "Starscream" Hudson?

I truley beleive that this is not Transformers, I know what TF is, and this is'nt it, it's a generic pile of s*it movie that slaps names on robots to make you care.

[Brodie]

I like the robots.

They are big.

(Oooh, I heart typing in Grimlock.)

[Dr. Doom]

Perhaps Doom has a new counterpart for in-character antics.

-=Folds arms=-

[Raph's Girl]

WOW!!! That was amazing! I'm really excited to see this movie in July. The transformations look great. That was really cool seeing a quick glimpse of Optimus Prime transforming. I'm pumped for 7/4/07!

Does anyone have screenshots from the trailer?

movies.yahoo.com has screen shots from the trailor. Im glad you were impressed by it...I wasn't. After seeing the trailor Im glad I have other plans on the 4th of July.... :P

[Brodie]

movies.yahoo.com has screen shots from the trailor. Im glad you were impressed by it...I wasn't. After seeing the trailor Im glad I have other plans on the 4th of July.... :P

Well, I'm sure you'll have a lot of fun watching Underdog....

[FireFly]

i now am really excited for this movie, brawl tearing the millitary base up, the shots of prime,bumblebee and barricade were sweet. i wonder if any other hasbro toy line charthers will be in this movie (hopes that that was roadblock in the base actack).but now the hard part waiting for it to actullacty come out

[Raph's Girl]

Well, I'm sure you'll have a lot of fun watching Underdog....

Underdog doesn't come out till August. :P

Even if I was majorly excited about seeing Transformers I'd still be too busy to see it the first week. Im usually high up in the mountains of Utah that week camping with family. But in 2007 my brother and his family are coming up that week. So I have a good excuse...spoiling my 3 year old niece! :lol:

[Brodie]

I bet they'll throw in some G.I. Joe references.

But considering it's Michael Bay...maybe not.

[The Lone Turtle]

Well, they have a My Little Pony reference :p

[gobo]

I never have been a TF fan. For some reason, I couldn't make it through an ep w/o falling asleep. I loved the toys though. The teaser trailer for this movie made me raise an eyebrow. It looked 'interesting'. Enough so that I might want to see it. But, the new trailer killed it for me. They're just taking this way too seriously though I should have expected just that from Michael Bay. There was literally no charm or sense of adventure in the recent trailer; just expensive special effects. It brought to mind the Super Mario and He-Man movies. So, that's my two cents. Take it or leave it. I shall now take my leave of you noble 'formersfans. ;)

[Spitfire]

That has "Summer rip off" written all over it. Movies with trailers like that usually end up not having that much action in them.

Example:
V For Vendetta*Though I liked this movie, totally mis advertised*
Blood Diamond
Lord Of War
Miami Vice

Previews and trailers are always BS. They edit them to make the movies look like hardcore action flicks but in reality there's not much action in them at all. I go to see an action movie to watch people kill and beat the crap out of one another. And I damn well better see one or the other. I don't go to see an action movie so I can watch 3 guys stand around and talk for over half the film and then at the end I get a little bit of action.

I normally like movies like this and I know their advertised that way because the average movie going moron wouldn't go see Lord Of War is they really knew what it was about. They wouldn't understand V For Vendetta*And boy they didn't* So the trailer has to look as misleading and appealing as possible so everyone will go see. The people who take the time to understand the film leave rewarded, because usually people like that have a favorite critic and trust their word over others, and the average Joe idiot leaves mad that there weren't enough explosions and shiny objects.

To me I have a feeling this movie will be plagued with lots and lots of long boring dialog scenes that normally I might care about but due to subject matter will put me to sleep. Just like a Godzilla movie, I know already, a big ass dinosaur looking reptile is attacking Toyko and kicking the crap out of some other mutant thing. Stop talking about it and show Godzilla kick some ass. Instead we get scenes with his retarded son in it riding around with some annoying little kid and a bunch of scientists sitting in a room trying to figure out wtf is happening despite the fact that it's happened like 60 times. There's also the lame human drama stories to ooooo. Did I rent Godzilla or did I rent Japanese Soap Opera?

Just my two cents.

[ZariusTwo]

I never have been a TF fan. For some reason, I couldn't make it through an ep w/o falling asleep. I loved the toys though. The teaser trailer for this movie made me raise an eyebrow. It looked 'interesting'. Enough so that I might want to see it. But, the new trailer killed it for me. They're just taking this way too seriously though I should have expected just that from Michael Bay. There was literally no charm or sense of adventure in the recent trailer; just expensive special effects. It brought to mind the Super Mario and He-Man movies. So, that's my two cents. Take it or leave it. I shall now take my leave of you noble 'formersfans. ;)

I'm a die-hard Transfan (probably one of the few to see right through this s*it), and I agree with you whole-heartedly.

...He-Man movie was awesome though, I think it's gritty space opera is what drove Mattel to ultimately create the New Adventures of He-Man toyline.

[Kid Icarus]

Meh.

It's a movie. A SUMMER movie.

You're not going to be forced into seeing it, are you Zarius? And really, if you're friends with people who would force you to see it at gun point... you have bigger problems to deal with then a movie about a toyline, that in the end really is just there to push product into kids hands.

[ZariusTwo]

:roll:

If you don't get TF, you're never going to.

[Warhorse]

Was never into Transformers. But I love my movies, and I love Michael Bay movies, so that is a double plus for me. I just saw the trailer on mtv.com, and i thought it looked great. I bet it would look even better on the big screen, just like the TMNT.

This is going to be a great year for movies. Epsecially for the audience that doesn't nit pick on every little freaking thing.

[Duke]

I've never been a transformer's fan, but that trailer really didn't do much for me. It was just full of fancy CGI and showed absolutely no chance of any real substance from the plot of this movie.

[Warhorse]

What is there to know? By the sounds of it, the two opposing transformer race has brought the fight to Earth, and we are in the middle of the crap. United States military trie s to defend Earth, and maybe make allies with the (autobots) I think that's the good side.:ohwell:

[Raph's Girl]

IESB.net is reporting that Frank Welker is days away from signing up to voice Megatron in Transformers! Yay!!! :evilgrin:

http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=23943

[ZariusTwo]

...If he's voicing THIS, I'm going to f*cking barf

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r66/markusrainwater/4418245a4321b149ff.jpg

I've never been a transformer's fan, but that trailer really didn't do much for me. It was just full of fancy CGI and showed absolutely no chance of any real substance from the plot of this movie.

Which has always been a Micheal Bay tradition for the mindless popcorn audience...to think TF's being wasted on these idiots...

[Anarky]

A video of a transformation. (http://thatvideosite.com/video/3532) If only the movie-transformations would look that good.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Well, at least Megan Fox is hot. Although her ending up with Spike is possibly the biggest stretch in this film.:)

[Mecha Cow]

The other day I saw the trailer for this movie in the theatre and I have to say it looked really, really cool. Yeah, the designs are sh*t, but I'm no Transformers fan - I don't care. I'll be seeing this for sure.

[DrSpengler]

Sorry Welker, but nostalgia won't win every battle.

As a pormotional thing, the new movie has an online "meta-game" called "Sector 7" where a top secret agency dispenses cryptic information about the upcoming Transformer epidemic on Earth.

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=127362

According to the latest release, "As of today agent H. Weaving has officially convinced S.S., M.B., R.O and A.K. to oversee the Megaman issue. The recording will commence immediately."

SS = Steven Spielberg, MB = Michael Bay and RO = Roberto Orci, all producers/directors.

So the fandom has pretty much accepted this as fact that Hugo Weaving has been cast as the voice of Megatron.

Personally, I think he could do a good job. He has an intelligent yet menacing voice much like David Kaye's Megatron voice for Beast Wars.

I honestly never got my hopes up for Welker, since I never expected Bay to cast him to begin with.

[Mecha Cow]

Good I guess. From what I heard Welker's voice sounded really whiney anyway. Glad they're going with what works in a movie now rather than what worked in a cartoon 20 years ago.

[ZariusTwo]

Pppft...Welker's voice was awesome back in G1.

[Scavenger]

Anyone got a good voice sample of him? Never heard of his name.

Frank Welker as Megatron in G1 was very good. His voice had something 'evil'. He is a very good voiceactor an he is very versatile.

[ZariusTwo]

Anyone got a good voice sample of him? Never heard of his name.

It's Agent F'ing Smith.:|

Wow.

[LogicDonny]

:D :D Excellent.. Agent smith GO!

[GK Punk]

Pppft...Welker's voice was awesome back in G1.

Hell yeah it was.

[Time Mistress]

Transformers: The Movie was precisly what the animated series was, MORE than just a "toy commercial" quite frankly I've always found the term "toy commercial" for many of the 80's toyline-based cartoons to be slightly unfair, as many of them rose above that with a level of writing that REAL blatant toy commercials like The Batman, on occasion Pokemon, and Yu-Gi-Oh can't surpass.

So true, so true. I love everything about G1, my favorite cartoon ever! I so want Welker to be Megatron. Nothing against Weaving, I think he'd do a decent job. But casting Cullen (thank you, thank you, thank you) and not casting Welker as well is just so wrong. And why the heck didn't they audition David Kaye?

[Raph's Girl]

IGN.com reported that Keith David (The Chronicles of Riddick) will voice the Decepticon police cruiser Barricade in the Michael Bay-directed Transformers film.

[DrSpengler]

I heard that and it made me giddier than the Hugo Weaving announcement. Kieth David has the COOLEST voice ever. It's the very defination of "bad mutha f***a!"

Also rumor that Welker will voice *a* Transformers. Dunno who or even how legit that is.

90% chance he winds up voicing Scorponok and just doing growls and grunts. ;)

[Raph's Girl]

Check it out Transfans...the Transformers now have a myspace page! U can join the friends lists of the Decepticons or the Autobots! :lol:


http://www.myspace.com/transformers

[DrSpengler]

tMjxfQa6K3g

A new leaked TV spot featuring, among other things, Cullen speaking as Optimus Prime as well as Optimus Prime's...lips?

[Jester]

IGN.com reported that Keith David (The Chronicles of Riddick) will voice the Decepticon police cruiser Barricade in the Michael Bay-directed Transformers film.
GOLIATH!!! Sorry, I've been watching a lot of Gargoyles recently. keith David is up there with Welker, though Welker has more range, David has "that voice." I mean those Navy commercials are great because he does the voice over.

[DrSpengler]

Also, for all you Welker-lovers, he has been cast as Megatron for the PS2 Transformers tie-in video game. Cullen will also be voicing Prime in the game, so you'll get your big reunion there.

[GK Punk]

Not sure if I'm digging Optimus in that ad or not.

[ZariusTwo]

Christ, that trailer was crap. Prime's lips moved like a guppi, I've already seen Starscream Primal's monkey flips on a dosen avatars, and the acting sounds half-assed and near self-parody from the Naval commander.

Micheal Bay's Bionicle fails to impress yet again.

[Peanut]

Why are there lips? WHY DOES HE HAVE LIPS!!?

[ZariusTwo]

The same reason he has Flames

Hollywood baby!

Ne...Ne....New World Order!

[Mecha Cow]

The lips look really stupid. I thought the whole reason for the mechanical faces was to avoid stuff like that? :ohwell:

[Raph's Girl]

Transformers don't have lips!!! Optimus what have they done to you!! They gave u muppet lips!!! AAAAH!!!! :o

[DrSpengler]

I present to you proof that Prime has always had lips, terrifying though they may be...

http://images.wikia.com/transformers/images/thumb/e/e1/KidsPrime1.jpg/565px-KidsPrime1.jpg

[ZariusTwo]

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/archives/2007/03/transformers_me.php

Poetry In Motion.

[GK Punk]

The Trailer is gone. if anyone knows where I can get it to show a friend of mine please PM me.

[Scavenger]

http://www.konradsworld.co.uk/newtvspot.wmv

The removed video with Optimus Lips.

[ZariusTwo]

The new Transformers series promotional poster carries a new logo and the annoucement of a 90-minute pilot movie (much like Armada had)

As you can see, it's no longer called "Heroes"

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/imagehosting/4418246218529de7f8.jpg

[Ecto Jedi]

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/archives/2007/03/transformers_me.php

Poetry In Motion.

Merd bombs of this sort never factor into the film's commercial reception. Older guys taking potshots at a super-expensive pre-pubescent fanboy action FX flick is almost a badge of honor. It's certainly a matter of very limited consequence in the greater scheme.

I think that sums it up best.

[Spitfire]

http://www.tfsource.com/Reissues/Nike%20Transformers/nike-transformers-convoy.html

This just made me laugh.

[Raph's Girl]

IESB.net has what is apperantly an audio clip of Starscream from the Transformers movie. He sounds like he's under water... ô,0

http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=26299

[TigerClaw]

Check out the trailer to the Transformers game here. (http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=4769)

[Warhorse]

Hehe. This is the movie I am waiting for. Never was a Transformer fan. But I like movies that look like the trailer was hinting at (my fave film of all time is Independence Day, and this looks similar to that action packed roller coaster I loved now for over ten years!)

[TigerClaw]

a bunch of new movie stills were found at the Celebutopia forum right here. (http://www.celebutopia.net/forum/showpost.php?p=269647&postcount=1)

[Warhorse]

I like that Bumble Bee is going to be a Camaro instead of a Volkswagon Beetle. Nothing against a VW Beetle, but there is something about a car like a Camaro gunning it's engines before taking off in a wild car chase!

Have you all seen the two smaller spots. One is called Destiny and the other is called Hidden. The Hidden trailer is really cool. Has a cool beat near the end!

[ZariusTwo]

http://seibertron.com/images/comic/01/tmb/003.jpg

Irony, don't fail me now...

[raphaelprime]

Clip shown on 'Ellen' yesterday, with Blackout's assualt on the base and part of his transforming sequence(i say 'part of' because you can tell the clip was edited not to show too much).

http://youtube.com/watch?v=01Uky6nQJVQ

[Warhorse]

Oh, I saw that clip already. It's really cool in that part. The helicopter pins it's blades back just like a wild animal would do before engagin in a brutal fight.

A new trailer is going to be shown with Shrek 3 and POTC AWE. So, this trailer is exposed to millions of viewers, the movie will gain momentum in the interest department, or fade off into the sunset.

I honestly think it will be one of the surprise smashes of the year.

[LogicDonny]

indeed. however all we see is trailers, this better be awesome or it will be another hype gone bad movie.

[ZariusTwo]

TV trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVJ06ixj19Q

[DrSpengler]

And here's the new theatrical trailer:

http://www.cybph.com/archives/296

Return of the classic transforming sound effect! JOYGASM!

Coulda done without the clip of Roadblock screaming "BRING IT!", but whatever.

Still looking forward to this movie.

[ZariusTwo]

Still not impressed with this. Maybe it's because I know all they've done is rip scenes from the Marvel comics, original series, and some Dreamwave concepts etc, maybe it's because the same scenes are repeated time and again in the tv promos, maybe it's the sickening love story Bay is forcing down our throats, maybe it's the fact the TF look more like Bionicle products from LEGO than they do by Hasbro.

Either way, I don't understand why people think this film will be good, because all evidence points to it not being that at all.

[Mecha Cow]

You know what, the designs still suck, but this looks awesome.

[TerranigmaFreak]

Indeed, the designs still look horrible on-screen. I'm surprise the people on the other Transformer forums are so happy. I admit, I got goosebumps when Prime drove up and transformed with the classic sound, but the thought of Michael Bay easily erased that feeling. Besides, anyone can make a 2 minute trailer look awesome. Remember The Phantom Menace?

[Warhorse]

I just saw the new trailer. It looks freaking awesome. This movie is going to own.

Here's a link to the trailer that's been posted on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7uXvqfQvNI

[LogicDonny]

here's the best version of the last 2 links.. a much cleaner look.

http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=66602

[Warhorse]

Good link there Donny. Loved so many parts of that trailer. The robot doing the flip into a jet formation and flying down the city. The fight at the end of the trailer (is that OP and Bonecrusher? I'm not familiar with the Transformers yet) And while I never really watched the cartoon as a kid, I recognized old sound when OP transformed.

July can't get here soon enough.

[ZariusTwo]

This film is going to blow, if it did'nt have the words "Transformers" slapped all over it, nobody would be interested. Blinded by hype, that's all this is.

This (http://www.myspace.com/micskillstheillest) should have been Cybertron's theme, I hope he's able to get it on the soundtrack

[Tinuvielsdreams]

I promised myself I would keep an open mind until I see it.
I dunno about not liking the design I am just glad it doesn't look overly digital so far. I was afraid it would cross that line into cartoony for live action

[Spitfire]

Oh god that looks...you know what I won't even say it.

[Raven]

It looks interesting enough to go see, but it looks like its going to be a straight up action movie....I could be wrong but I hope it dosent look all that promising right now. Whatever I'll still watch it with an open mind.


Still the designs look horrible.

[Time Mistress]

This (http://www.myspace.com/micskillstheillest) should have been Cybertron's theme, I hope he's able to get it on the soundtrack

Wow, what an awesome find! Have you posted this to TFW2005 so they can hear it? I hope it does get on the soundtrack. I could so hear that playing over the credits. That's like the "Turtle Power" of Transformers.

I liked the new trailer. I'm still "highly dubious" if this film can pull off something good character and plot wise, but visually I'm starting to warm up to it. Yes, a lot of the character's faces still look ugly (Op with lips, please no! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!), but shots like the one of Starscream transforming in the new trailer are exactly the kinds of things I've wanted from this movie all along as a fan. So while I'm prepared fo the worst, I hope for the best. Either way, I just want the wait to be over. Come on July 4th!

[Warhorse]

Just got back from Shrek the Third, and there was a Transformer trailer there, but different form the one we saw on May 17th.

Well, I'm all for this movie. I like movies on aliens, robots and military themes. I also like to see big battles in city settings. And I have been a fan of most Steven Spielberg's projects.

Plus, I was never into the old Transformers, so I'll be going into this with a very open mind. Who knows, the film might bring in new fresh fans of the franchise.

But after this, the only movie I can recall wanting to see would be the Bourne sequel.

[ZariusTwo]

New audiences will undoubtedly think that the Transformers mean nothing compared to all the humans who get more speaking lines, as depicted in the trailer.

The humans were second nature, and are in almost every US version of the franchise. The characters are the TFs themselves, it's their war, not anybody elses'. This film will be a "love story" and won't concentrate on what made G1 and Beast Wars so enduring, the war for the survival of the title race, the survival of the Transformers.

The "realist" fans don't care enough about the franchise and have "sold out" just to watch one of the world's most inconsistent directors roll the dice and bring the TFs to life in ways they hav'nt seen, and the casual fans who have never seen the series will be given a strict lesson in complete miseducation.

[LogicDonny]

So what your saying is that the hardcore fans of transformers will turn away from this film or go and line up to see it?

[GK Punk]

Turn it away. Most of the hardcore TF Fans already have.

I plan to watch it with an open mind, but expect to be a little dissapointed.

[ZariusTwo]

So what your saying is that the hardcore fans of transformers will turn away from this film or go and line up to see it?

A few of them won't watch this, but out of franchise loyalty, a lot of the die-hards will see it, even if it won't be Transformers and they know it. This is a Bay movie, the human element will take center stage.

[GK Punk]

That and explosions.

[Anarky]

Explosions! I think they made a good choice when you see it from the "Who would be best to make giant robots trashing everything look as awesome as possible?" Bay really knows how to pull that off. So at least the special effects will be fantastic, that much is certain.

And having never been a die-hard Transformers-fan but enjoyed playing with the toys when I was a kid, I'm actually looking forward to this movie. The new trailer looks really good and I don't really have any problems with the designs (apart from Optimus' lips). And I hope they'll play it in an undubbed version somewhere around here.

[KROW]

This is a Bay movie, the human element will take center stage.
That pretty much is what makes me iffy on seeing this film. Transformers to me is about just that: the Transformers. I really didn't care about the humans in the cartoon, so why should I now? Seeing the trailers gave me the impression that it's going to be 90% human drama, 10% Transformers.

The 'bots themselves look amazing, and the actual transforming noise made me grin with fanboy appreciation, but I think I'll wait for fan reaction before shelling out money for this.

[Warhorse]

Wow, this got stickied.

Anyone think the trailer we saw on the 17th will be on POTC AWE?

[Time Mistress]

It's always been about the Transformers for me too, never the humans. If I want humans I'll watch nearly any other movie that ever been made in the history of film thank you very much. If I want to watch Transformers I want it to be about the Transformers dangit!

I do have a shred of hope in the scriptwriters seeing as how they had also worked on Legend of Zorro and Alias which I love, but just because they get superheroes and spies doesn't mean they get giant robots. So we'll see.

On the bright side, it can't be any worse than watching Fred and Billy on Armada can it?;) Well, aside from the fact that this movie will be seen by millions of people thus cementing mistaken ideas about what Bay thinks people want to see in a TF movie and shape the direction of the franchise for the forseeable future...we are potentially in biiiiiiiiiiiig trouble.

[Brodie]

I'm really glad Stan Bush is back to do the soundtrack for this movie, just like the original:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=30BFrLl07r4

[ZariusTwo]

The REAL f*cking movie. Right there.

[Warhorse]

Here's a new clip.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0kZHybANP4k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obuf-cSebiw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G4kZoWkn4w

[Buslady]

I just saw an MTV clip of Prime speaking OMG he sounds AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm so giddy over it cos its Peter Cullen...it's like I'm in 4th grade again watching TF, I love it! WOOOOHOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! He looks weird cos he has a very mechanical looking mouth, yeah and actual mouth!

It's gonna be so coooooooooooooooooooolllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(and no just cos Prime's one of my number one favorite TF's, he won't replace Raph...:lol: :P ))

[Anarky]

Brilliant idea to open a new thread. Just pure, great genius. Especially since the already existing twenty-page-long, sticky thread is so easy to miss. Sheer brilliance.

[Buslady]

Brilliant idea to open a new thread. Just pure, great genius. Especially since the already existing twenty-page-long, sticky thread is so easy to miss. Sheer brilliance.

Stuff it Anarky, I did not see this one, I LOOKED for one and saw NOTHING. I don't need your rudeness, mod or not. Mods should be polite.

[Warhorse]

Stuff it Anarky, I did not see this one, I LOOKED for one and saw NOTHING. I don't need your rudeness, mod or not. Mods should be polite.

YEah, I agree. That was a bit rude.

Unfortunately, not all of them will have the etiquette that Krang has. Makes me glad he's the head honcho here.

But yes Buslady, i'm with you on my excitement for this one. And I was never a Transformer fan when I was a kid. If you were to ask me a year ago to name my top 5 favorite Transformers, all I could tell you was Megatron, since he was the only one I knew about. (And I thought that he was the good guy!)

Now, so far, I'm liking BumbleBee, Ironhide and Starscream.

[Buslady]

YEah, I agree. That was a bit rude.

Unfortunately, not all of them will have the etiquette that Krang has. Makes me glad he's the head honcho here.

But yes Buslady, i'm with you on my excitement for this one. And I was never a Transformer fan when I was a kid. If you were to ask me a year ago to name my top 5 favorite Transformers, all I could tell you was Megatron, since he was the only one I knew about. (And I thought that he was the good guy!)

Now, so far, I'm liking BumbleBee, Ironhide and Starscream.

I was mostly concerned how they're going to show us Optimus Prime, he was my favorite when I was 11...I loved the old series, I could probably watch it now even though it'll look corny to me. :D
So far I'm happy.

[ZariusTwo]

I loved the old series, I could probably watch it now even though it'll look corny to me. :D
So far I'm happy.

It won't, unless you follow the "fad" of bashing older things and won't look at it objectivly like certain toffs.

[Peanut]

It won't, unless you follow the "fad" of bashing older things and won't look at it objectivly like certain toffs.

Have I told you how much I love you lately?

[Buslady]

It won't, unless you follow the "fad" of bashing older things and won't look at it objectivly like certain toffs.

I looked at acouple clips onlines, yeah i can still enjoy it. It brings back memories. Kinda like how old TMNT brings back memories for the younger set of fans in their 20s now.

[Time Mistress]

It is great to see old fans rediscovering Transformers lately. I think G1 holds up extremely well. The animation mistakes are no worse than OT TMNT.

Have you rewatched the new special editon of the 1986 movie yet Buslady?

And if you're looking for the novelty Peter Cullen TF item of the summer, it's the Optimus Prime voice changer helmet (but make sure you get the one that says official movie voice because there is a Gary Chalk Optimus variant out there too.)

[Warhorse]

No Transformers in this clip, minus BB in old mode, but I thought this clip was funny as hell, at the end of it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptuxeglMHmQ&NR=1

And this is another funny clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R1dOBlicYY&NR=1

[Buslady]

It is great to see old fans rediscovering Transformers lately. I think G1 holds up extremely well. The animation mistakes are no worse than OT TMNT.

Have you rewatched the new special editon of the 1986 movie yet Buslady?

And if you're looking for the novelty Peter Cullen TF item of the summer, it's the Optimus Prime voice changer helmet (but make sure you get the one that says official movie voice because there is a Gary Chalk Optimus variant out there too.)

I saw the official TF helmet, it sounded cool. Very clear. Amazing how toys get better & better when they got sound. I remember how crappy sounds were 15 years ago.

I havent watched the 'SE 86 movie yet...YET. I should grab me a copy.

[Leogeddon]

go to a movie stop, they SHOULD have a DVD of the old movie, but not VHS, if you can't seem to find it, i guess Ebay or Amazon is your answer. =\

[Buslady]

targets still got it, ill find me one :-)

[Time Mistress]

Personally I love the '86 movie, but as a Optimus fan you may be cheering one moment and crying the next. (Not that I don't love Op, but I'm a huge Rodimus fan.)

[Warhorse]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7ME0KHHoto&NR=1

I found another clip. Sorry, but I'm just really excited to see this movie, and if I find something cool, I want to share it!

[Anarky]

Bay talks Transformers (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808716430/video/2939413/) - And he says why there are flames on Optimus and goes into the internet's opinions. It's probably one of the most informative and best pre-movie-promo-clips ever, since it's not "Oh, it's always been my dream to do this with these people and it fulfills my dreams of making this movie." It actually has valuable information, real insights.

[Brodie]

Yeah, he's not one to ********, is he?

Also, I find it funny that I read that the flames were to show depth, as in 3d-differentiation...and Bay is like "I just like flames."

[ZariusTwo]

Speilberg and Bay's eager promise

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyziAvLYxZI

"Screamwave", hahahaha

[Duke]

I honestly have no problem with the designs. I actually agree with Michael Bay that they should look more realistic and natural in a live action movie than going all retro. But I was never a transformers fan, so I don't have attachment to the retro designs. So I think he was making a pretty good argument until he said "I just like flames" and then his defense for changing things lost a lot of credibility.

[ZariusTwo]

The thing is, prior to Bay and Speilberg were signed, fans had created visuals of what the blocky G1 TFs would look like, they looked pretty good, even people who are now blindly kissing Bay's ass used to think they looked good

The people defending this s*it are either non-TF fans and therfore don't know any better at all, or there just kissing Bay's ass for the sake of a live-action TF movie.

[Anarky]

The people defending this s*it are either non-TF fans and therfore don't know any better at all, or there just kissing Bay's ass for the sake of a live-action TF movie.


Is there a third option, since I like the Transformers without having issues about saying when something sucks. Maybe I'm Batman and I can get away with everything.

And I like the 10108-part-Optimus better than a couple of blocks shifting around. Looks better on the big screen.

[ZariusTwo]

Is there a third option, since I like the Transformers without having issues about saying when something sucks. Maybe I'm Batman and I can get away with everything.

God-damned Batman

Draft me...into a war.

And I like the 10108-part-Optimus better than a couple of blocks shifting around. Looks better on the big screen.

How's the ass-cream?:P

[Brodie]

I'm a TF through and through, but I have to say this movie will be entertaining. But its nothing more than a show-off summer movie...Its giant robots, and explosions (Thank YOU Micheal Bay-Dess) with a shiny Transformers logo.

So I'll enjoy it, knowing Transformers the movie, and Beast Wars are on my DVD shelf.

[Buslady]

The people defending this s*it are either non-TF fans and therfore don't know any better at all, or there just kissing Bay's ass for the sake of a live-action TF movie.


not true. im a 1984 TF fan, a kid fan, seen every ep of the original I freakin LOVE the new stuff. I think they look great.

[ZariusTwo]

Transfans go for story and action, not just designs. Chances are you've seen all the best stuff in the trailer (something Bay does all the time, seriously, everything seen in music videos for his films have all the best stuff in them, then when you watch the movie, you have to essentially wait for those scenes)

The entirety of the trailer comrpises mostly of the film's central characters, humans, the TFs are being held back for the budget-crunching final acts (I've seen the script, there's not much difference between what you see in the trailers and how much they matter to the story)

And the designs suck, they don't resemble the Transformers at all

This is very much popcorn fodder, and as a Transfan who likes to think when watching a film about warring robots, I see good visuals, but nothing else.

[TigerClaw]

Heres a video of Megan Fox on Jimmy Kimmel Live promoting Transformers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLwx07OdYXI

[Spawn Guy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcQuXAf0cKc

[GK Punk]

Holy ****. I once told my friend they could just redo the old movie theme and replace the line "The evil unicron" with the "The Evil Megatron". And they actually did.

[Peanut]

Upon hearing the "cover" of the movie theme...I feel like I was raped. :cry:

[GK Punk]

I'm torn. The music was okay, plust they referenced another song from the soundtrack which was cool. But.. man, the vocals.

[Spawn Guy]

"I'm getting paid a million dollars to do the main theme of a million dollar blockbuster movie. Why the hell should I put any effort into this?"

The remix is cool, but you probably couldn't get a more uninspired singer.

[TigerClaw]

Check out this new TV spot. Optimus Prime has a sword. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTYT_xR85f8

[ZariusTwo]

Seems to be the "realist" version of the classic "energy weapons" scene from the original series, Megatron is seen to be forming something also from his hands.

[Time Mistress]

An energon axe or mace maybe like in MTMTE? Or dare I be so hopeful? :|

[TigerClaw]

New clip featuring Megatron speaking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgkFM3M5exA

[Brodie]

Just saw it.

Let me just say that this movie was an amazing experience. Throughout the movie I felt happy, and chipper, and I've never enjoyed a movie in such a way. It was one of the best movie experiences in my life.

Although one issue, though not huge:

The first hour seemed very light hearted and comedic, and the last hour was a 180, and was very unsettling and almost depressing. Poor Jazz. Also, there's a bunch of characters, and you get to know the Autobots way better than the Decepticons...But there are more Decepticons than Autobots anyway.

But this was such a fantastic movie, even as a Transfan, and the little things that bothered me...It was well done, and the characters were really enjoyable. I have a new respect for Bumblebee (Whom I've hated for years).

Neat thing: The allspark makes some little robots, almost like tiny go-bots, or minicons.

[DrSpengler]

My Review. (http://www.filmsy.com/reviews/transformers-2007-review/)

This movie was fanriffic.

[Brodie]

PS, SPengler, wasn't it written by the guy who did X-Men?

Also

Who else noticed how they did the Decepticons in such a number that you'd forget about them....so when the movie ended you go "WTF?" and realize....Oh, those guys will be in the sequel. I.E. Scorpanok, and Starscream?

[DrSpengler]

PS, SPengler, wasn't it written by the guy who did X-Men?


The first script was written by John Rogers though there were some rewrites, those who have read the various versions of the script note that little was changed.

[ZariusTwo]

As a die-hard Transfan, and as a cinema fan, I've found a new trend developing, that of enjoying senseless, over the top, substance less trollop, and unlike the days when this occurred in the 1980s, audiences are refusing to diverse themselves anymore. Movies with any concrete sign of intelligence has no place in the popcorn's den, and this was proven correct with the sad state of criticism thrown at Superman Returns and Spider-Man 3, movies that weren't remotely as bad as some claim, and compared to this, stand tall as comic films that paid attention to their characters, and didn't lose them in the mix. Something this did in spades.

I am as guilty of this, I called Snakes on a Plane a prophetic masterpiece of sensationalist cinema, restoring the fun and majesty to otherwise a dull pattern of disaster movies that take themselves too seriously, it was art, and redemption for the genre. Finally, we had the basics back.

Today, Transformers has taken it's place in most critics opinions, and has done it in a far more cohesive and expansive manner than SOAP, as a film that completely refuses to make anyone think, only invite you to witness the realization of the Transformers take their battle to the big screen's live-action.

Visually, and as a franchise representation, the film grasps the basics fundamentally well, it's arguably Bay's latest redemption, for every "The Island", there was a "Bad Boys II". Yes, he's a prick, and more times than not an incompetent with editing and treating his staff with courtesy, but piss him off enough by saying he's s*it and he'll prove something occasionally. Spielberg's "Love Bug" story though took what the final acts clearly were attempting to break from and tell more of, an actual WAR story, and Bay obviously wanted to tell that unrestricted.

Without Bumblebee being developed as the de facto introduction to Optimus and the story, we could have seen more of Starscream's duplitious treachery, sharper focus on the remaining Decepticons.


I didn't weep when Jazz died, I didn't give a s*it about him. I couldn't even tell it was Jazz, all the Transformers besides Optimus and Bumblebee are indistinguishable. I didn't spoil myself on who Jazz would look like, so from a casual fan's point of view, it was akin to a traffic jam of unrelatable metal.

And screw "Flames on Optimus", how about "One line for Starscream", the word "Masturbation", and Bumblebee "urinating"

The beginnings of a story, but don't think for a minute this movie is in anyway a story itself, more like a Loony Toon chase with ACME level vulgar gags befalling certain characters, and ludicrous adolescent humor that proves Bay might not be quite on the ball. Russel T Davis can bomb London to Rouge Traders "Voodoo Child" because DW takes itself only half-seriously, TF always had a pretentious sense of priority in every animated medium, to the extent the humor in G1 and BW came across as simple vandalism on the parts of the animators and writers bored. Bay isn't just blatant when he's bored, he's boisterous about it. I'm more insulted so many Transfans thought some acts of idiocy were funny and worth being included

It's not Transformers, though it is whenever Cullen talks, and for the Prime/Megatron use of familiar weapons, but it's Challenge of the Go-Bots completely realized. A bunch of festering, Transformers wannabes protecting a du ex machina which resembles the cybernet space cube from the G2 "animated series", making perverse jokes about mating that fall flat each time and serve nothing but convince the viewer even they care little about the war until it hits them in the face. Maybe that was the message, and some will define it as that, but I see it as a waste of time, tell an alien war story, not one that's relatable to our own attitudes. These guys are here to prioritise, not lout around.

I actually like the animated Challenge of the Gobots series, it's not Transformers, but it sure as heck tries, and pays off sometimes. When are you gearing for the Rocklords adaption Bay, so my comparing something that so blatantly is'nt TF to that show is'nt entirely an insult.

It's got the power, but it ain't got the touch. Casuals and Transfans who know what this means for the franchise (more plot-dependent sequels), will love it though.

[PipingPringle]

Holy! I just saw it last night.
I was never really a transformers fan, (to my regret) and I have to say it's my favourite movie this summer to say the very least. I am beyond excited about this movie! Now I have to go looking for more! (Though I may be a little disapointed, for pretty much my only other transformers experience lately is that action scene from the last movie(?) where "Dare to be stupid" by Weird Al was playing in the background. LOL)


Although one issue, though not huge:

The first hour seemed very light hearted and comedic, and the last hour was a 180, and was very unsettling and almost depressing. Poor Jazz. Also, there's a bunch of characters, and you get to know the Autobots way better than the Decepticons...But there are more Decepticons than Autobots anyway.


Disagree. I enjoyed the balance throughout!

[Anarky]

As a die-hard Transfan, and as a cinema fan, I've found a new trend developing, that of enjoying senseless, over the top, substance less trollop, and unlike the days when this occurred in the 1980s, audiences are refusing to diverse themselves anymore. Movies with any concrete sign of intelligence has no place in the popcorn's den, and this was proven correct with the sad state of criticism thrown at Superman Returns and Spider-Man 3, movies that weren't remotely as bad as some claim, and compared to this, stand tall as comic films that paid attention to their characters, and didn't lose them in the mix. Something this did in spades.

I am as guilty of this, I called Snakes on a Plane a prophetic masterpiece of sensationalist cinema, restoring the fun and majesty to otherwise a dull pattern of disaster movies that take themselves too seriously, it was art, and redemption for the genre. Finally, we had the basics back.

I kind of don't get that. I mean, not everything needs to be mindboggling amazing and make you think for hours. Sometimes it's just stuff that blows up, looking awesome in the process. Sometimes an explosion just is an explosion, not some metaphor for the world's growing problems with premature hair loss. And quite frankly, I don't get what's wrong with that. I don't want my movies commenting on current events that surround me all the time when I'm not at the pictures. I'm quite content with the stuff not being related to reality too much.

Sure, a deep movie here and there would be nice. You know, a film where you get to think a little after you walk out and you don't feel like punching the next living thing in the face to release the awesomeness. But seeing that most recent attempts at making an intellectually appealing movie fail horribly by being forced to be based on a world where the most intellectual problem is whether or not Jerry Springer is better than Maury Povich. Or if they don't decide to go the "my brother claims to be a martian and slept with my 120 year old grandmother who's a 800lbs stripper"-route, they're going with the random problems people post on their blogs, which is something like "The woman at McD's served me a Big Mac instead of Chicken McNuggets today. I'm very depressed."

Bottom line is: There just isn't anything that you can base intellectually appealing movies on these days.

[Spitfire]

Movies with any concrete sign of intelligence has no place in the popcorn's den, and this was proven correct with the sad state of criticism thrown at Superman Returns and Spider-Man 3, movies that weren't remotely as bad as some claim, and compared to this, stand tall as comic films that paid attention to their characters, and didn't lose them in the mix. Something this did in spades.

I didn't see Superman Returns but Spider-man 3 was a piece of crap. And I will be blunt and flat out say it sucked horridly. Why was this? He already made #2. If #3 had been #2, and #2 had been #3 then it would be fine. But no...instead of expanding on Spider-man and making it better he down graded it so idiots could enjoy it.

But know what really pisses me off? Is that Spider-man 2 made tons of money while still being an actual good movie and intelligent. So why he did that makes no sense.

[ZariusTwo]

I didn't see Superman Returns but Spider-man 3 was a piece of crap. And I will be blunt and flat out say it sucked horridly. Why was this? He already made #2. If #3 had been #2, and #2 had been #3 then it would be fine. But no...instead of expanding on Spider-man and making it better he down graded it so idiots could enjoy it

...Or for idiots to haplessly thrash it without knowing the political aspects of the film's production and not grasping Raimi was telling more of a "Alien Coustume" storyline than a Venom storyline with hardly any up-swing. "Kick in the balls" cinema.

Spidey 2's success is attributed to the trend not starting yet.

[Brodie]

That is a pretty good arguement, Zarius.

One I agree with.

I tend to think SM1 sucked, 2 was better, and 3 was fun, and interesting, and I like seeing Tobey mcGuire get his ass kicked.

But along the lines of cinema that makes people have to think... Lately? Nothing. Sure, I enjoyed Transformers, but its disposable cinema. Will people remember it in 10 years? Not like they do the cartoon 20 years from when it came out. But it was downright fun. I don't think anyone set out to change belief systems with that film anyway.

Films that make you think lately? 1408 is probably the closest thing you'll get. Finally a good Stephen King movie, and a neat PG-13 movie that doesn't deserve to be labeled as Horror when it's more so a different kind of psychological suspense story.

If you want movies to really think about, go buy DVDs to films like Before Sunrise/Sunset, or Science of Sleep.

I think the real arguement should be for films that make you feel something. It happens so rarely now, I hadn't felt in other films that I did in Transformers in years since I was a kid seeing Ninja Turtles for the first time. Or films like the upcoming 30 Days of Night...A movie thats already being seen in showings and people stating "No comedic relief, no relief at all, its all terror and suspense and it never gets any easier to watch."
Thats what movies should be like, what horror films should be like.

If Micheal Bay achieved one thing, its close to what Richard Donner did with Superman in 78...Like people believed a man could fly way back when, for 2 and a half hours, I believed in giant robot aliens.

[ZariusTwo]

If Micheal Bay achieved one thing, its close to what Richard Donner did with Superman in 78...Like people believed a man could fly way back when, for 2 and a half hours, I believed in giant robot aliens.


Good comparison there, Bay arguably did make the TFs look real (I've been against "realist" approaches, but if the shoe fits..), but Richard Donner himself once said that if he had allowed The Salkinds full power, from Telly Savals cameos to Luthor eating floss, it'd have made a damn good trailer, just not a good movie.

TF was a good trailer, it was'nt a good movie in my opinion.

[Brodie]

Well, in that regard, I agree with what you said about this being a trailer, or opener for the sequels. We know there will be more, and in that vein, more roboticly (whaaaat) character driven, no?

PS, I was driving down the highway last week and I did see the real Optimus truck. I was informed it was going to be at BotCon, yes?

Oh well.

[Cure]

Off topic, but I think Pan's Labyrinth was an OK thinker's film.

[JetsAndHeels]

I don't want to hear anyone else comparing Bay to Donner...Superman '78 is off limits. Thanks in advance. :)

[X]

I caught the film last night, and must say I was impressed.

First off I own all of Bay's movies, except The Island, which I will get around to getting soon. No one does action like he does.

Second off, if this film was about nothing but robot interaction, it would've sucked. You cannot take robots seriously if there was no humans to interact with.

I am not a Transformer fan persay, yet I really loved this film.

Something I don't get however, is how people can say they couldn't make sense of who was who Transformer wise, during some scenes. Not one time did I get confused or couldn't make out who was fighting who. Yet various sites, members state they had a hard time following the action.

Otherwise, I really have no gripes. I take it the reason why certain Decepticons didn't get much time on screen was due to edits, and Bay has said the DVD will have brand new scenes.

It felt like an old Spielberg movie of the eighties, mixed with Bay's knack for supreme action.

-X-

[Spitfire]

Alright so my Dad wants to go see this and no one will go with him. So I agreed to as long as he pays for my ticket so I'll toss up a little review later.

[Duke]

I saw it yesterday and enjoyed it at lot more than I thought I would. It wasn't the greatest movie ever but it was entertaining and sometimes that's all a movie needs to be.

[Mecha Cow]

I'll just say this. I have been to many movies in my life, and I have never, ever heard applause after (and during!) one. I was happily clapping along.

Awesome movie, and one of the best theater experiences I've ever had. Screw the haters, go see this now.

[Spitfire]

Alright so for one I never ever expected to see this movie. I always thought Transformers was one of the stupidest ideas out there and even as a kid I didn't like them. I think I had like two of the toys but they turned into insects and I never had them as robots when I played with them.

Anyways my Dad mentioned reading some reviews that said if you go into the movie wanting to see giant robots blow **** up then you'll enjoy it. So I cleared my mind of all thoughts about how stupid I think Transformers is and accepted the fact that no matter how bad I think it is the people in the theater will all love it. So with a clear mind I sat down to watch the movie.

Where do I start? The opening scene was promising it really was. I for awhile expected this movie might be good. Then that scene ended and we saw the kid and that's where it all goes down hill. I felt like I was watching two different movies. The goofy kid scenes and then the serious desert war scenes. Then at the end it all comes together and we get these epic battle scenes that are weighed out with silly childish humor.

They really needed to pick it was serious at parts and then really kiddy at others. The little robot boom box thing was about where I gave up on the movie. I put up with the annoying main character and his Disney humor I wasn't going to put up with some little annoying robot. It was C3-PO all over again.

Some of the scenes really just ate at me. Like
Got to love the scene where their all outside his parents house making a mess out of their yard. Totally fits the tone the movie was trying to set. Honestly what a waste of the CGI budget for that they could have had a few more fight scenes or longer ones.

And the tag line for this movie should have been "Attack Of The Advertisements". I thought it couldn't get any worse after the close up shot of the Panasonic SD card and actually tying Ebay into the storyline but when I saw
Mountain Dew Machines and Xbox 360s morphing into robots I was really groaning.

I also realized another reason I didn't want to see it. Bay's style is horrid, wait what am I saying he has no style at all. He does nothing to make me want to keep watching. There's no interesting camera play at all. I mean even movies who don't do weird camera tricks still have good angles which he doesn't have either. And all he did do were cheesy slow motion shots. That mixed in with his badly written dialog really just turned me off.

This movie seriously suffered from Godzilla syndrome as well. Do we really care about the humans lame story or did we pay to see robots toss each other around? Cause I don't need to sit through 2 hours of mostly pointless scenes to get to that. He could have edited the film better the entire house scene I mentioned earlier shouldn't have even been in the movie.

I felt like I was watching a live action cartoon, toy ad, advertisement for various companies, and i understand that but they could have done a better job at covering it up. It had to much explosive action in it for little kids and was way to silly for adults.

I'm sorry to anyone who enjoyed the film who might be offended by my opinions but I'm not going to sugar coat anything.

[SassyGal]

I thought it couldn't get any worse after the close up shot of the Panasonic SD card and actually tying Ebay into the storyline but when I saw
Mountain Dew Machines and Xbox 360s morphing into robots I was really groaning.


Mountain Dew Machines & Xbox 360's morphing into robots??? Um awesome!!!

I am seeing this tomorrow and I am ready for kitchy silliness, overkill product placements and awesome transformer fight scenes. Please tell me the transformers make the old school transforming noises at least once??? That would really make my day :D

[Warhorse]

Yes. a couple of Transformers made the old fashioned noises.

But I loved the movie, and it was so funny and exciting at the same time. Ironhide became my favorite, he wanted to kill anything that annoyed him.

And my personal favorite part, when Megatron flicked that human like it was a cockroach :lol:

[JetsAndHeels]

Saw it today and enjoyed it very much. The action scenes were great, the acting was well done, and the humor was good (although it was a bit overdone in some spots). I enjoyed the robots beating the hell out of each other, it was pure action from start to finish.

I am planning on seeing it again tomorrow afternoon following work. Hopefully I will catch a few things I might have missed today.

[Mecha Cow]

I felt like I was watching a live action cartoon, toy ad, advertisement for various companies
That's because you were. And it was great. Buy all our playsets and toys.

[Time Mistress]

Well, as a life long Transfan who was very cautious going in I have to say that I really liked it. It still doesn't beat G1 and the 1986 movie or BW but there was a lot to love. I can overlook a slew of bad teenage boy aimed humor in light of seeing Optimus Prime come to life on the screen again, I was 8 years old all over again. And the battle scenes looked terrific. And I loved just about everything that happened with Bumblebee (always my favorite character). I will also say that much as I did like Transformers, this movie still does NOT beat the new TMNT movie as my favorite movie of the year. TMNT didn't need to reinvent itself to be awesome. But I can say honestly this is the most excited I've been about TFs since Beast Wars. It sure beats the crap out of the Japanese anime TF stuff we've had lately. I'm definately going to see it again.

[SassyGal]

Yes. a couple of Transformers made the old fashioned noises.

YAY!!!

And my personal favorite part, when Megatron flicked that human like it was a cockroach :lol:

BWAHAHAHA! Now I really can't wait to see this!!! :lol:

[Buslady]

Saw it first show today, the theatre for the 10.30am showing was a mad house and no doubt sold out.
Being a fan of the original series, I mean like religiously watched it..had some of the figures, the REAL ones made with METAL parts...I thoroughly enjoyed the movie. Transformers made me happy. WithPrime's voice opening the movie I was like a giddy little kid again, just that voice is so powerful and awesome, all my memories flooded my mind. I loved the way the introduced Scorponok, how Blackout infiltrated, how the backstory of Sam's grandad finding Megatron and the glasses holding the information Prime needed, that was nice...Sam trying ot keep his dad in the house while Bumblebee is right there and the others all around in the yard...destroying it...and I loved Prime's flames. I also liked that it was based here in the LA area! We tooled around LA today after we saw it...crossed over near the bridge Prime was hiding under...ahh it was just cool.

People just need to sit back relax and enjoy the movie.

[Brodie]

I felt like I was watching a live action cartoon, toy ad...


...Maybe you don't understand what transformers is....

[Speedbreaker]

Transformers IS one giant toy commercial. As someone who's followed the Transformers religiously since I was a kid, I've come to accept that and appreciate whenever we get a commercial with decent production values and a storyline that isn't mind-numbingly dull (i.e. the last three TF cartoons). Suffice it to say, I loved the movie; my only real complaint is that the Decepticon's didn't get enough screentime; I'd have gladly sacrificed the signal decoding/hacker subplot for a scene or two showing them planning or better yet, bickering. The Autobots, however, were flawless, and Peter Cullen as Optimus for the first time in 20 years gave me goosebumps. :) I'll definitely be seeing it a second time as soon as I have the money.

[Revan]

^ Perhaps if there is a sequel they will jump right into more robot fights and less human character development kind of like Fantastic Four. The first FF was slow moving and the second one picked up the pace a bit. I went to transformers to see some robotic action! At least we got to see an attractive hot and sweaty gal to keep the interest.

[OA]

Well, i saw this on Tuesday and LOVED it...action packed from start to finish...and it was sooo much funnier than I was expecting...great, great movie that I plan on seeing again, probably this weekend...I still can't believe they did all that considering the "low" budget (at least in comparison to movies like Pirates which I belive cost $300 mil to make)...

[Speedbreaker]

^ Perhaps if there is a sequel they will jump right into more robot fights and less human character development kind of like Fantastic Four. The first FF was slow moving and the second one picked up the pace a bit. I went to transformers to see some robotic action! At least we got to see an attractive hot and sweaty gal to keep the interest.
Amen to that! Mmm... Megan. :D

As for a sequel...
I don't buy for a second that Megatron will stay dead. C'mon, he was force-fused with a magical artifact that is basically the Creation Matrix/Primus-In-A-Box, and his body was "utterly destroyed" by... being dropped into the ocean. And we didn't even get to see it be crushed. Shoot, in the first TMNT movie, we SAW Shredder's helmet being crushed by the garbage compactor (anything more would've been too graphic for kids), but did that stop him from returning? To sum this all up in one word: GALVATRON :evilgrin:

[Spitfire]

...Maybe you don't understand what transformers is....

Well if the fans are willing to admit it then I assume that's how it's supposed to be.

Just not my kind of thing then I guess.

[ZariusTwo]

TF's a commercial that rose above it's confines to tell a mythology in addition to selling toys.

This movie used a mythology to sell toys, cars, militant propaganda and some juvinile "cool to see icons do that" humour

[SassyGal]

Just saw the movie tonight and loved it. It may not be everybody's thing, but I enjoyed it!

I was so sad when Megatron ripped Jazz in half and when the Sector 7 guys were hurting Bumble Bee!!:cry: Man, I am such a girl.

As for a sequel...
I don't buy for a second that Megatron will stay dead. C'mon, he was force-fused with a magical artifact that is basically the Creation Matrix/Primus-In-A-Box, and his body was "utterly destroyed" by... being dropped into the ocean. And we didn't even get to see it be crushed. Shoot, in the first TMNT movie, we SAW Shredder's helmet being crushed by the garbage compactor (anything more would've been too graphic for kids), but did that stop him from returning? To sum this all up in one word: GALVATRON :evilgrin:

I totally agree with that assesment ;)

[Mecha Cow]

militant propaganda
Wait, what?

[Warhorse]

Saw it for the second time last night. TMNT is still my favorite film of the year, but Transformers is right behind it.

I keep wondering, if there was at least 1/4 of the amount of advertising for TMNT as there was for Transformers, would have TMNT faired better at the box office. Wonder if we could use the success of Transformers as amunition to try and pursuey the studios into releasing a PG-13 TMNT.

But who became your favorite Transformer and what was your favorite scene?

I favored Ironhide for his sarcastic nature, reminds me of Raphael a bit. And my favorite scene, was a fight between Megatron flicking the human onto the car, or Optimus Prime stabbing Bonecrusher in the head with the sword.

[SassyGal]

My favorite transformers were Optimus Prime & Bumble Bee

I loved the scene where Megatron flicks the human away!!! :lol: I also like Megatron, but I wish he had been in it more. You get to see the dynamic between autobots, but the decepticons. That's what I liked about the show. Oh, well...maybe in the sequel :D

I'll have to see it again because there was so much happening!

[Mecha Cow]

Bumblebee was my favorite for sure, I didn't think I'd like a robot with no face and no voice, but they handled it perfectly and his body language was great.

I also thought Jazz was cool, his first line had the whole room applauding. Too bad he got killed though. I heard he gets rebuilt in the sequel, I hope it's true.

[ZariusTwo]

The one thing G1 and BW have above the comics is that with the exception of a few fan favourates, characters stay dead. They essentially have an afterlife within the Matrix, you can't just switch them back on again. You have to pull them back from the Matrix.

[Mecha Cow]

Why couldn't they use the Allspark to repare themselves anyway? I mean, Frenzy regained his entire body upon touching it.

[Mr. Snackpants]

I went and saw it last night and it exceeded my expectations. I never got into the Transformers show as a kid. I had some of the toys because they were kick ass, but I knew nothing beyond Autobots and Optimus Prime and the Decepticons and Megatron. I knew nothing about the origins or the plot.

First off, I loved the casting. Shia LaBeouf and Megan Fox were great. I didn't really like Disturbia but Shia kept me from hating it. And Megan Fox is pretty damn hot. The Witwicky parents were very amusing. Then you had Jon Voight, Bernie Mac, Tyrese, the dude from prison break, and that big black dude(his name escapes me) and some others.

I went in not knowing what to expect during the next 2 1/2 hours. But I had one of the best times I've ever had in a movie theatre. I rarely ever walk out a of a theatre thinking, "Wow, that was well worth the $6." and feeling like I should've payed extra to watch it. THe onl other time I had the same feeling was walking out of Grindhouse. There was a great balance of humor and action throughout the movie. Some of the humor was stupid, but most of it was quite funny. THere were also some unintentional funy parts, and real cheesey ones. My favorite line of the movie was, "Saaam, put the cube in my chest....put it in my chest, saaam.". I dunno, maybe me and my friends have sick minds :lol: . I din't mind the advertising at all. If anything, it made a movie about giant transforming robots from outter space seem real. One thing I didn't like was how complex the robots were. There were so many parts to them and there faces weren't clear, it became distracting. The designs seemed a little too complex. The story was ok. It was a little rediculous. Will someone please explain this cube they lived on? It wasn't even that big and why was that one little part (all spark) so important? The length, after further thought was just right. It felt too long while watching it, but that might have been because on the way to the theatre, a car was trying to merge into my lane and their mirror hit my side door and dented it. They took off and we couldn't catch up. A ****ing hit and run. It was my moms car too. So I had that weighing heavily on my mind but I still enjoyed it. It's a 5/5 in my book and in my top 10....#10 actually. I'm going to see it again this weekend and probably one more time after that.

[Mecha Cow]

Will someone please explain this cube they lived on? It wasn't even that big and why was that one little part (all spark) so important?
They didn't live on it, it was the lifeforce of them and their planet. Like seen in the movie, the machines that came in contact with it came to life (ie. became Transformers). They needed it to rejuvinate their planet, or do...evil stuff in the case of the Decepticons.The smaller one was actually the same cube after it had 'transformed'(It shrunk when Bumblebee activated it).

[Revan]

It's just you and I, Megatron...

No, Prime. It's just me!:lol:
Awesome!

I have to admit I was wondering how they would explain the transformers' origins and the cube deal was decent. The plot was pretty cool. I'll say the obvious, MORE TRANSFORMERS AND LESS SHIA

[Mr. Snackpants]

They didn't live on it, it was the lifeforce of them and their planet. Like seen in the movie, the machines that came in contact with it came to life (ie. became Transformers). They needed it to rejuvinate their planet, or do...evil stuff in the case of the Decepticons.The smaller one was actually the same cube after it had 'transformed'(It shrunk when Bumblebee activated it).

ahhhhh. It makes much more sense now, thanks Mecha. I kept wondering how they all fit in such a small area :P

[Cascadia]

Another movie of this year that opened a possible "can of worms" for a sequel.

[JetsAndHeels]

I'll say the obvious, MORE TRANSFORMERS AND LESS SHIA

Yeah I totally agree with that...he did pretty good in the movie but it felt way too forced at some points.

Also the humor...it wasn't really terrible but at some parts during the film it felt like it was just being overdone. I enjoy a good laugh as much as anyone but remember this isn't a comedy it is an action flick.

[Mondo J. Gecko]

...
Alright, So I finally Got to see this movie tonight, and I just have to say... Holy Crap... Amazing... Now, I'm not a big Transformers Fan, infact I hardly watched he TV show... but this Movie was Brilliant, I heard people after the show comparing it to the first time the saw Star Wars... and I have to say, this movie was Epic... I can't wait for more, as long as the pace and general Direction of the film stays the same...

Great Movie...
My only (small) quibble is not enough Robots and too many Humans...
Other then that... Amazing...
...

[SassyGal]

...Great Movie...
My only (small) quibble is not enough Robots and too many Humans...
Other then that... Amazing...
...

I agree with you...I would have liked to have seen more robots, but yeah other than that, awesome movie

[Lady Venus]

I loved the movie. It was wonderful!

[Cascadia]

Yesterday, a friend of mine and I were discussing about the movie. She said something very funny...

"I will never bad-mouth my car again." I asked why and she said, "It might be a Transformer". We burst into laughter.:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Warhorse]

Yesterday, a friend of mine and I were discussing about the movie. She said something very funny...

"I will never bad-mouth my car again." I asked why and she said, "It might be a Transformer". We burst into laughter.:lol: :lol: :lol:

LOL! My friends and I walked out of the theater, looking at the nearby semi-trucks and other vehicles in a whole new light. We pulled up at a truck stop to get some gas, and we were being smart asses to one trucker. He had a big Peterbuilt, and I called out (how's Optimus Prime handling today?) He just looked at us with this bewildered expression!

[Jo Dawn]

Ok, I loved this movie. As a fan from the original series (and proud owner of the original toys, still!) I adored it. I forgot how much I liked the Transformers.

Many great parts, so much to talk about, heh.

But one thing that I was thinking about during the movie... Was how interesting it was that both Transformers and TMNT stemmed from 80's shows and comics, and how different the movies were. Why is it that TMNT has to be kiddified in a horrible way when it was more adult in the first place? And Transformers is just allowed to, well, RULE? (Making a topic about this in the TMNT Movie section, so take comments there (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?p=535475#post535475), lol).

[Raph's Girl]

Interview with Mark Ryan (Bumblebee in the new movie) in which he talks about the DVD of the new movie. The DVD apperantly has new footage that sets things up for the next Transformers movie!

http://sknr.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=981&Itemid=75

[cqb101]

Interview with Mark Ryan (Bumblebee in the new movie) in which he talks about the DVD of the new movie. The DVD apperantly has new footage that sets things up for the next Transformers movie!

http://sknr.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=981&Itemid=75

I thought the footage during the credits kinda set up the sequel already?

Starscream flying away into space.

[Zog the Equalizer]

I just saw this film and i must say it was awesome. It had everything you would want in a summer blockbuster: Action, comedy, just the right amount of human drama, and of coarse pretty girls. It also had many quotes and references for us TF fans.
I must say my favorite transformer was Baricade simply becauseThe police car he transformed into said Decepticon police "To punish and enslave" which to me is cooler by far than "to serve and protect". This also seems to be a human comentary on how people dont pay enough attention to their suroundings

[SassyGal]

I must say my favorite transformer was Baricade simply becauseThe police car he transformed into said Decepticon police "To punish and enslave" which to me is cooler by far than "to serve and protect". This also seems to be a human comentary on how people dont pay enough attention to their suroundings

Okay, I totally missed that! I will have to go again and pay closer attention this time!

[Leogeddon]

I thought the footage during the credits kinda set up the sequel already?

Starscream flying away into space.

I loved this movie, this movie and TMNT are the top two i want to get on DVD! Starscream's my fave!
Remember:
the time when they were in the city and star scream came in, the entire group of autobots fled when one (i think it was jazz) screamed: OH CRUD, STARSCREAM!! It shows he's not to be messed with, even when the military attacked him in the air, he transformed back and forth taking down the entire jet fleet single-handedly. I heard there were 3 contracts signed.

[Spitfire]

The DVD apperantly has new footage that sets things up for the next Transformers movie!

Oh joy :roll:

[Leogeddon]

Yesterday, a friend of mine and I were discussing about the movie. She said something very funny...

"I will never bad-mouth my car again." I asked why and she said, "It might be a Transformer". We burst into laughter.:lol: :lol: :lol:

literally minutes after i left the theatre, i ran around looking into cars for autobot symbol, i swear i would p*ss myself and run for the hills if i saw Decepticon, even though i like them better (no offense, Optimus) I wouldn't wanna be around them. The fights in the movie were well put together.
lol, XBox360 and 7up Machine Decepticon!

[Warhorse]

I just saw this film and i must say it was awesome. It had everything you would want in a summer blockbuster: Action, comedy, just the right amount of human drama, and of coarse pretty girls. It also had many quotes and references for us TF fans.
I must say my favorite transformer was Baricade simply becauseThe police car he transformed into said Decepticon police "To punish and enslave" which to me is cooler by far than "to serve and protect". This also seems to be a human comentary on how people dont pay enough attention to their suroundings

Oh, I saw that immedietly in the movie about the to punish and enslave. I actually thought that this scene was some tongue and cheek humor towards Terminator 2, cause there is a scene in that movie that has the T-1000 drive up in a police cruiser, and the camera pans in on the serve and protect. There was a time when Steven Spielberg and James Cameron were really good friends, and had a tendency of using little gimicks like that towards eachother's movies.

[Cascadia]

You probably have guessed...I loved this movie. I forgotten how much I loved the original series when I was a kid. I used to have some of the toys but I do not know what happened to them. The 80s are haunting me and bringing the child out in me.

[Cascadia]

sorry about the double post but..

I found this on ebay...

A vintage sports car featured in movie blockbuster Transformers is being auctioned online to raise funds to house families of wounded or unwell U.S. armed forces.

Bidding on the fully functional 1977 Chevy Camaro, known as Bumblebee in the Michael Bay movie, currently stands at $30,000 on eBay.

All proceeds from the sale, which ends on July 18, will go towards the Fisher House Foundation charity, whose motto is "Helping military families."

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200126643267

The car still has the logo on the steering wheel.

[Warhorse]

literally minutes after i left the theatre, i ran around looking into cars for autobot symbol, i swear i would p*ss myself and run for the hills if i saw Decepticon, even though i like them better (no offense, Optimus) I wouldn't wanna be around them. The fights in the movie were well put together.
lol, XBox360 and 7up Machine Decepticon!

At my local PepBoys, they are selling Transformer stuff to put on you car, including the symbols on the steering wheel, both the Autobots and Decepticons.

[Swany]

I'm seeing the movie this weekend maybe, previews are this weekend, it comes out next weekend.

I'm watching the making of it on youtube. When the guys beying the car theres a yellow VW beetle parked next to BumbleBee. Thought it was a cool wee thing.

A wee bit gutted though that bb isn't a VW in the movie, I love those cars. Especially bright yellow ones. But movies these days are all about fast cars and stuff.

[gobo]

Weezer's album 5 demo would have been perfect for the soundtrack if only there was a 'Yellow Camaro' TF. :P

[GK Punk]

I'm seeing the movie this weekend maybe, previews are this weekend, it comes out next weekend.

I'm watching the making of it on youtube. When the guys beying the car theres a yellow VW beetle parked next to BumbleBee. Thought it was a cool wee thing.

A wee bit gutted though that bb isn't a VW in the movie, I love those cars. Especially bright yellow ones. But movies these days are all about fast cars and stuff.

VW Won't let them use their cars for things like this. That's why Bumblebee is pretty much never a VW at all anymore. Just similar cars. (Except the camaro, obviously :p )

[Swany]

Oh dude, bummer. I actually recall that someone said VW dont use the cars in anything to do with war. Could that be because VW's were Hiters idea?

I still want one a yellow though. They're such pretty cars. All curves and so cheery looking.

And yes, I wanted one before I knew about TF.

[Cascadia]

I found out about this from another forum that I belong to...read on.

The Transformers DVD...when does it come out you ask. What's it gonna have? What I can tell you is this: there will be 2 versions:

1- A regular version with no extras (just a director commentary).

2.- A multi-disc version with the movie w/ director's commentary and additional disc(s) with tons of extra stuff.

Transformers will also be available on HD-DVD and Blu-ray formats.

>>Just to give heads up to everyone if you are interested.

[Warhorse]

When is the movie expected to come out? I'd figure we'd see it for sale around December.