Why doesn`t Donnie have a girlfriend? [Archive]

Sage Ninja

08-23-2006, 03:02 PM

I really think that Donatello in the old toon was just to supressed in some ways to ever fully allow him self the luxury of developing a crush on a girl. Also in the classic toon Donatello seems to think that humans are inferior in some ways, so maybe he thinks those types of emotions are beneath him or something. In the episode "The Gangs All here" when the turtles find cookies that could turn them human, Dontello really shows his disdain for the human race as a whole in that episode. I don't rember the exact wording but i think he said that the cookies would turn them into a life form worse then slugs and amebas or something.

The original series always teased something between him and Irma, but never capatalised on it

Yeah I caught that too, perfect examples are Green with Jealousy, Doantello's Degree and one other one I can't rember. And you know I think Donatello was some what aware of Irma's infatution of him and the turtles because there where times where he seemed to be teasing her about it. Like that infamous line "Irma...I need you" from Turtle Snatchers episode, and irma's reaction! LOL :lol:

gobo

08-23-2006, 03:21 PM

I think Donatello was some what aware of Irma's infatution of him and the turtles because there where times where he seemed to be teasing her about it. Like that infamous line "Irma...I need you" from Turtle Snatchers episode, and irma's reaction! LOL :lol:
I thought Irma was just supposed to be 'boy-crazy'. It seemed to me that she would date any masculine creature that isn't a jerk. She dated Rex-1 after all.

Tora_Chan

08-24-2006, 03:36 AM

Well, Donatello seemed to be interested in Jhanna in the original comic and the new cartoon (he keeps her hair in both cases), but that was pretty much it. Leonardo had Lotus and now Karai; Michelangelo had Kala, that Sara character from the Image comic and the Regenta (from what I've heard); Raph had Mona Lisa, Ninjara and that fox woman whose name I forgot. Seems like Donny is the real loner turtle, not Raph.

tmnt_girl

08-24-2006, 03:59 AM

I really think that Donatello in the old toon was just to supressed in some ways to ever fully allow him self the luxury of developing a crush on a girl. Also in the classic toon Donatello seems to think that humans are inferior in some ways, so maybe he thinks those types of emotions are beneath him or something. In the episode "The Gangs All here" when the turtles find cookies that could turn them human, Dontello really shows his disdain for the human race as a whole in that episode. I don't rember the exact wording but i think he said that the cookies would turn them into a life form worse then slugs and amebas or something.

i agree with u there, i think don always hated humans but he cared alot about April ect, cause they were his friends.
in the new cartoon i think don really likes April cause they both got teh tech-no-geek thing going on. like in the epsidoe i think it's :trouble with angie, wen April hugs leo, don then asked for a hug.
see wat i mean?

gobo

08-24-2006, 02:12 PM

I thought Irma was just supposed to be 'boy-crazy'. It seemed to me that she would date any masculine creature that isn't a jerk. She dated Rex-1 after all.
She's a true romantic. As long as her romantic ideals are met, she isn't concerned with appearance.
But, we're applying rules to a program that had none. Don's dislike for the human race was only one writer's interpretation of the character. This is why the turtles themselves couldn't decide if they were reptiles or amphibians. :lol:

EDIT: If I had just edited my first post, everyone would just skip over it, thinking it was old news. So, get off my back. :P

Sewer Bull

08-24-2006, 02:23 PM

Going slightly off-topic - nice signature pic, tmnt_girl. It would make a great av. Which TMNT episode does it come from?

Sage Ninja

08-24-2006, 03:11 PM

Don's dislike for the human race was only one writer's interpretation of the character.

I don't think that was just one writters interpertation of Donatello's character. There where other instances where he seemed to regard some sort of disdain toward humans. That was kind of his edge in the classic toon, he didn't really share the other turtles idealism toward life. Kinda makes him a realistic character. And I do believe Donatello was just to practical minded to ever explore that type of emotions.

And as to the the turtles developing crushes on humans. I think all of them in every medium has had crushes; Or had girls become romatically interested in them.

Classic Toon:

Leonardo: Lotus (mutaul)

Donatello: Irma (not mutaul but alluded to)

Raphael: Mona Lisa (one sided on the girls part...maybe)

Michaelangelo: Kala (mutual) Buffy (One sided on his part)

Archie comic

Leonardo: not sure

Donatello: not sure

Rapahel: Ninjira (mutaul very heavily involved)

Michaelangelo: I think he had a crush on some girl in Japan

Mirage/Image Comics

Leonardo: Karai (alluded to)

Donatello: not sure perhaps that aline girl who gave him her hair

Raphael: not sure, I think there was a ninja girl he liked in volume one, that he kept going to go spar with

Michaealngelo: Sara (mutual) Regeneta (Mutual...maybe)

New toon

Leonardo: Karai (alluded to)

Donatello: Arpil O'neil (almost blantant/ alluded to) Quarry (alluded to) the alian girl from the Peoples choice (maybe)

Raphael: none...Or maybe Joy from lost season, don't know yet.

Michaelangelo: none

Well it would seem that in the new toon Donatello seems to lump together the most amount of girl friends in any medium so far. So its hard to say that the tech turtle is girlfriendless. But out of all the mediums, the new toon is the only medium (so far) where Michaelangelo doesn't have a love interest or girl friend. Weird.

iris

08-24-2006, 03:49 PM

Disdain for the human race was a general sentiment in the old toon and reflected a shifting part of the sociological climate of the late 80s. So it wasn't just Donatello. I'm not sure I'd have wanted to join the human race back then either. But I don't think you can equate that to a dislike for individual humans... it was just a general thing. Kind of like whether you think it's believable that the kids would have killed each other in Lord of the Flies.

tmnt_girl

08-26-2006, 05:26 AM

Going slightly off-topic - nice signature pic, tmnt_girl. It would make a great av. Which TMNT episode does it come from?
i cant quite remeber but i'll try and found out for u if u want?

New toon

Leonardo: Karai (alluded to)

Donatello: Arpil O'neil (almost blantant/ alluded to) Quarry (alluded to) the alian girl from the Peoples choice (maybe)

Raphael: none...Or maybe Joy from lost season, don't know yet.

Michaelangelo: none

Well it would seem that in the new toon Donatello seems to lump together the most amount of girl friends in any medium so far. So its hard to say that the tech turtle is girlfriendless. But out of all the mediums, the new toon is the only medium (so far) where Michaelangelo doesn't have a love interest or girl friend. Weird.
i agree with you!

Jo Dawn

08-26-2006, 09:06 AM

Hehe, Donnie's a 'Ladies Man'.

I laugh in this series,because he's always saving the girl or moving her out of the way or somesuch thing. I'm sure they're all gentlemen...but he's just a true one. Heh, sooo in character. :)

Donatello: April O'neil (almost blantant/ alluded to)

Oh, that's completely canon and supposed to be there (as per, well... Laird, heh). (Not that you were denying it. I'm just tellin' ya.) And I loved that part of the 2K3 series. Too bad we wn't see it anymore. I thought it made for an interesting dynamic, and one that they could have explored fully. So, the ONE interesting fact about FF for me, was... that April, Don and CASEY made O'Neil Tech. But I'm sure we won't get any kinda back story on that, either.

tmnt_girl

08-28-2006, 04:58 AM

Hehe, Donnie's a 'Ladies Man'.
I laugh in this series,because he's always saving the girl or moving her out of the way or somesuch thing. I'm sure they're all gentlemen...but he's just a true one. Heh, sooo in character. :)

yh i agree with u, but Leo aint doing to bad either, out of all of them i think it's Leo and don that are more protective of women and people, but Don has to do it the most. like in, Return of Savanti Romero don was there to help Renet more than any of the other turtles.

Sewer Bull

08-28-2006, 05:38 AM

i cant quite remeber but i'll try and found out for u if u want?

Yeah, that'd be great. Thanks in advance! :)

tmnt_girl

08-29-2006, 10:43 AM

Yeah, that'd be great. Thanks in advance! :)
ok the episode it's from is: Tale of Master Yoshi
mikey is complaining about lack of tv and asked to be put out of his misery so Raph gladly offeres, but he quickly changes his mind, and thats the picture i got when raph changes his mind. (i'm guessing he's seen splinters or someone alone those lines.)

Sage Ninja

08-30-2006, 05:16 PM

Oh, that's completely canon and supposed to be there (as per, well... Laird, heh). (Not that you were denying it. I'm just tellin' ya.) And I loved that part of the 2K3 series. Too bad we wn't see it anymore. I thought it made for an interesting dynamic, and one that they could have explored fully. So, the ONE interesting fact about FF for me, was... that April, Don and CASEY made O'Neil Tech. But I'm sure we won't get any kinda back story on that, either.

you know the whole April and Donatello thing was a great dynamic. I agree with you. And it was so subtly done as well, because if you think about it April and Donnie have more in commom and chemistry than goofy Casey and April. I was sorely acheing for the friendship and kinship that April and Don had with each other to add tension between Casey and April. In fact i was looking for that portion of the mirage comic where Casey gets mouthy with Donatello, and Donatello hits him with his bo into the river to be some how incorporated into the toon, with Casey maybe becomeing jealous of Donatello. That would have been awsome and made for a good plot if this had been done, if Casey and Donatello had a confrontation like this over April.

But alas that us not to be since FF made its debut on our screens and they got rid of Casey and April.

Jo Dawn

08-30-2006, 10:23 PM

*sobs* Darn straight. I totally agree with you. I was waiting for all that, too.

Sooo much interesting storyline. Sooo many reactions to be had.

Man, we totally got screwed. *kicks pebble*

tmnt_girl

08-31-2006, 10:36 AM

lol! casey is soo anoyin i dont see how april can put up with him, don isnt annoyin, nor any of the otehr turtles.. well except mikey...

iris

08-31-2006, 01:29 PM

Don isn't annoying, but he's way younger than April.

gobo

08-31-2006, 02:56 PM

I hadn't considered the age thing... They're eight years apart as far as anyone knows. So, that's two moral dilemmas to overcome. For the situation, Casey is just a more convenient answer. No hiding is involved, and the possibility of a normal family life is more likely. Poor Donny would have to fake a headache so often that he'd start giving himself headaches.

Jo Dawn

08-31-2006, 03:28 PM

...I never considered the age thing, becaude I don't think 8 years is all that much, considering.

I mean, in real life, if someone's 15 or whatever, 8 years is probably too much. After you hit about 19, 8 years is NOTHING.

In their situation, I don't think 8 years is anything, really...

iris

08-31-2006, 03:41 PM

Depends which universe you're talking about. In the the 2K3 series, I think Don and the guys are around 16 (or at the oldest 17). In FF Dan said they're supposed to be 16, and in the old toon I think they were somewhere between 14-16? I don't think they'd have written Case as feeling threatened by Don & April's friendship in any of the toons, but the turtles are older in some of the comics.

gobo

08-31-2006, 04:49 PM

And, also, we have to consider this:
the inter-species erotica people
No respectable franchise can do more than hint at such a thing without comments that started out as a joke becoming a serious controversy. Example: If Tinky-Winky is a toddler, how can he be gay? This is a light-hearted approach to the topic and my chance to use a phrase I first heard in Clerks II. Had it not been for the latter, I probably wouldn't have posted it.

iris

08-31-2006, 05:03 PM

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:roll:

gobo

08-31-2006, 05:32 PM

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:roll:
Classics are the exception even though this Disney incarnation still got a lot of perverse attention. Surely, Disney felt this blow. The Hunchback of Notre Dame was the last animated feature they did with such daring, and that was a controversial catastrophe. If only they hadn't involved Demi Moore... That was the only part of the argument that was even remotely valid. But, then again Teri Hatcher got to be Lois Lane, illustrating the fact that women who objectified themselves for film in the past, AKA nude-scenes, aren't limited to productions centered on adult themes. Had it not been for its status as a classic, The Canterbury Tales would have been banned as a work of pornography. Other examples exist, but they elude me at the moment.

P.S. - The Beast wasn't originally a wolf. That's the most common justification I hear though I think it's rather weak.

iris

08-31-2006, 08:50 PM

It is indeed a classic. I read Beaumont's La Belle et la Bête in school. If there were real repercussions, Disney wouldn't have umpteen gazillion incarnations and reincarnations, including a cartoon series, sequels, and a friggin' Broadway production. There are huge exceptions made for fairy tales... like "The Ram" (a classic tale of girl meets goat, girl loves goat, girl's father locks her up for her own good). And some of the greek mythology stories... yeowch. But anywayyyyyy....... I can understand why they've avoided it with TMNT.

tmnt_girl

09-02-2006, 01:15 PM

i dont really think age matters to be honest, lets say they did like each otehr then nothin should stop them, seriously i think casey is annoying but i find it so funny how first of all Casey and April start out as enemies but then go out i think it's funny! and i also like it wen they're at a christmas party down at the lair and casey tries to kiss April but ends up getting hit across the face! i find it sooo funny!:lol:

Sage Ninja

09-05-2006, 03:47 PM

lol! casey is soo anoyin i dont see how april can put up with him, don isnt annoyin, nor any of the otehr turtles.. well except mikey...

Mikey isn't annoying, he is just a shameless attention whore :P

Casey may appear like a lunk head at times but he is studly and has those sexy blue eyes of his, seriously its his best feature. I think that sort of compensates just a bit. The only problem I have with April and Casey pairing is that it reeks of convience.

Now Donatello and April just seem like they are a more equal intectual and personality level than Casey and April. The only thing they have going in my mind is the cliche, opposites attract.

But to sum this up, as far as the new toon is concerned Donatello doesn't have a shortage of girlfriends, or is the least bit shy with the fairer sex. new toon Don is a play boy ;)

tmnt_girl

09-08-2006, 10:47 AM

Mikey isn't annoying, he is just a shameless attention whore :P

Casey may appear like a lunk head at times but he is studly and has those sexy blue eyes of his, seriously its his best feature. I think that sort of compensates just a bit. The only problem I have with April and Casey pairing is that it reeks of convience.

Now Donatello and April just seem like they are a more equal intectual and personality level than Casey and April. The only thing they have going in my mind is the cliche, opposites attract.

But to sum this up, as far as the new toon is concerned Donatello doesn't have a shortage of girlfriends, or is the least bit shy with the fairer sex. new toon Don is a play boy ;)
ok mikey aint annoying, i love loads though cause he's soo funny.
i have to agree with u, teh new don is a play boy, he seems to be the one turtle who gets closer to all the girls then any other turtle.

Sage Ninja

09-09-2006, 11:51 AM

which is a real switch considering in all other mediums he seems to asexual, just like old toon April. I would have really loved an Irma+Donatello pairing. In the Mirage Comics did Donatello have a girl friend, or love interest?

Raphael_Fan

09-21-2006, 03:11 PM

They got girlfriends now!?!?! Okey :o Raph,leo and Mikey?? okey that is the girls name??

iris

09-21-2006, 03:22 PM

I believe they're Mia, Marie, and Suzie. Respectively.

Raphael_Fan

09-22-2006, 12:31 PM

I believe they're Mia, Marie, and Suzie. Respectively.

Okey:D :D But I will stay to where it is they don't have girl friends:P I am that kinda person who doesn't like changes

Raphael_Fan

09-22-2006, 12:33 PM

Sage Ninja

09-26-2006, 04:28 PM

they all acted like they wanted to get into April's pants in the old toon. Sometimes their actions where down right explicit, especially in the episode April's Fool. But if you ask me Leonardo is the only one that really seemed the closest to April in the old toon. He usaully showed the most concern for her safity.

In the new toon the boys (especially Raphael and Michaelangelo) seem to be asexual. Which doesn't bother exactly, but it would be nice to see them show some invested intrest in girls. I think if done up right, it could serve as a good dynamic angle and re-inforce how different they are and that their are some aspects of life that they'll never get to enjoy because they are what they are.

NightwatchersOnlygirl

10-25-2006, 07:01 AM

What Raphael got a girlfriend,he got one all redely Raphaelsgirl
Back to Donnie I sure that some girl Liikes him

Brodie

10-25-2006, 10:48 AM

All the guys have at least one girl they`ve been paired with over the years, but nothing but scientists for Donnie?
Because he's a cartoon.

RaphaelsOnlyGirl

05-21-2007, 11:12 AM

There's probably lots of girls who love Donnie. But as for Raphael, I'm his only girlfriend. :tlove:

Scandia

05-21-2007, 11:40 AM

OK, I have read that Leo and Karai do not show interest in each other besides simply their martial arts. Other than the light teasing in the movie adaptation comic about "your girlfriend", where is the basis for this?

And how different in species are Mikey and Seri the Regenta that they can have offspring? While a wolf can breed with a coyote, I do not think that a turtle can breed with a dinosaur.

Nothing wrong with asexuality. One of the characters I have made up is an asexual male.

jenna

05-21-2007, 01:36 PM

There's probably lots of girls who love Donnie. But as for Raphael, I'm his only girlfriend. :tlove:

You sound familiar.... Can't quite put my finger on it.... ;)

Child_Of_Whitestorm

05-21-2007, 02:26 PM

There's probably lots of girls who love Donnie. But as for Raphael, I'm his only girlfriend. :tlove:

I love Donnie!:D

Jo Dawn

05-21-2007, 02:33 PM

Oh for goodness sakes.

Don's the ladies man, we all know this. Did you watch the cartoon? Lol. ;)

Anyhow. He's too much a gentleman for his own good. Plus he a scientist. And, really, anyone who knows a lot of sciencey guys in real life knows that they always have other thing on their minds. It's like it's genetic. They certainly love and all that... *ahem* But really. Does he need one? He's always around the ladies anyhow, hah.

Anyhow.

The best reason of all, though... Is simple.

I'm Donnie's girlfriend. ;) :P

RaphaelsOnlyGirl

05-21-2007, 05:54 PM

I love Donnie!:D

:D Yay! Now we just need a girl for mikey and a girl for leo.

Jo Dawn

05-21-2007, 05:56 PM

Man, I must be chopped liver...

Kunoichi_Haruko

05-21-2007, 06:02 PM

Aww take heart, Jo— Don loves you, too. :P

Katie

05-21-2007, 06:08 PM

We shall never speak of Mikey's Girl again....and Leo has plenty of Rabid fans of his own. I'm thinking all the rabid love and attention would scare the hell out of them (any guy) :lol:

I wonder why more girls do not go for the Don type. They're smart...and probably would be the best at making a living. IMHO Raph types would be the type that would fly off the handle in the heat of an argument and land you on an episode of cops.....and Mikey types are the ones that flit from job to job never quite sticking one (too much fun in the world to be had!)...and Leo types would either be pointing out areas you could improve on or be waaaaaaaay too over protective.....

but I guess if you are into bad boys, Raph's ok.....or if you need a father figure Leo will do.....or if you need to loosen up, Mike's your guy.....or if you like to curl up and watch what YOU want to on TV, Don's your guy (always in the lab that one) :P

Jo Dawn

05-21-2007, 06:43 PM

IMHO Raph types would be the type that would fly off the handle in the heat of an argument and land you on an episode of cops.....

You almost just got me fired. There's a 'no internet' policy, but that about made me laugh out loud. I just got this mental image, complete with theme song and everything.

Katie

05-21-2007, 07:06 PM

hehehehe

sowwy :(

If you do get fired, I'll get you hired on at my place for $35,000 a year and we can split my $2,500 recruitment bonus ;)

Jo Dawn

05-21-2007, 07:26 PM

... can I come work there anyway?

Katie

05-21-2007, 07:34 PM

yup ;) Seriously...you can.....

I'll be collecting applications later on at the job fair at the Smoothie Cafe :D I have 25 positions open at my RL job. Anyone can apply

Tinuvielsdreams

05-21-2007, 07:44 PM

Sounds good to me sign me up too :)
I have enjoyed reading this thread, I dunno what to add but it's a funny read :)

RaphaelsOnlyGirl

05-21-2007, 08:03 PM

Man, I must be chopped liver...

Sorry! I wasen't counting you out or anything I just haden't read your post yet. :)

RaphaelsOnlyGirl

05-22-2007, 06:41 PM

You sound familiar.... Can't quite put my finger on it.... ;)

FYI I haden't seen that other girls post about Raphael that was similer to mine.

CyberCubed

01-18-2025, 10:15 PM

Don't give them any ideas.

IndigoErth

01-19-2025, 12:34 AM

But you appear to want to give ideas if you're bumping this. lol

(I vote for Jhanna getting more stories someday, and maybe a light flirt with Donnie on occasion. lol)

Andrew NDB

01-19-2025, 12:39 AM

(I vote for Jhanna getting more stories someday, and maybe a light flirt with Donnie on occasion. lol)

I had him get together with Jhanna in Origin.

LeotheLateBloomer

01-19-2025, 01:18 AM

This thread should be locked.

ToTheNines

01-19-2025, 03:42 AM

Man, I love ancient threads lol.

I forgot what a weirdo Scandia was.

Barkworm

01-19-2025, 04:35 AM

Man, I love ancient threads lol.

I forgot what a weirdo Scandia was.
I remember back when the Imagi Turtles film came out and she said she was appalled by the fact that in the film April and Casey lived together without being married. Then, in a thread about masturbation she'd talk about how often she rubbed one out but that was different because it doesn't lead to unwanted babies. :lol:

ToTheNines

01-19-2025, 05:24 AM

Oh I remember her crusade over the cohabiting. But the second part is news to me haha, pretty funny.

Wonder where she is now. Maybe she moved in with her boyfriend.

neatoman

01-19-2025, 09:18 AM

It somewhat baffles me that writers are insistent on giving the turtles love interests when I'd say the best option might be to make them effectively asexual, not like straight up explicitly stating that they have no sex drive by the way, but more like in the Stephen Hillenburg "Spongebob and the rest of Bikini Bottom might as well be asexual" way.

What the love life of Batman or Spider-Man looks like might be fine to explore and actually has lead to some decent stories in the past. But the question "what does the love lives of mutated sewer turtles in a world of regular humans look like" doesn't really seem all that compelling to me nor do I see why anyone else would be interested in having answered either, they seem like the wrong characters for this particular angle and quite frankly the series has characters much better suited for such questions. And you know... It's actually kinda gross to think about what the love life of any of the turtles would look like in practice, not matter what.

IndigoErth

01-19-2025, 02:36 PM

What country or state was that member in that the cohabitating thing was so appalling? It was 2007, not 1965. :tconfuse: Think the rest of that was before my time and thank goodness. I'll pass on needing to know what members get up to on that front.

The way I look at it though, people have been screwing around with making up humanoid/human (or worse...) stories far back as the mythology of current or extinct religions. Definitely not just a "writers of today" thing, they're just continuing to pass that torch, as other media in past decades have, whether or not it's some readers cup of tea.

I'm still baffled that The Shape of Water even exists, but knew at that point there is no turning back now. Sorry, they've fully opened those gates. (And I take serious issue with the fact that the fish man was NOT mentally and emotionally on the same level as humans. Even with the theories about the mute woman, she still IS on an equally human level, but he isn't.) The Turtles are, to me, comparatively FAR more human-like and seem less strange in contrast. Doesn't mean I want to see it outright happening, and certainly shouldn't be focused on in any way that detracts or steals time from the story (some little thing taking shape in the background, whatever), but not bothered if they show them having some light, maybe just passing interest in another character occasionally.

I had him get together with Jhanna in Origin.
Awesome. If we ever get another 2003-ish type of show that's not aiming at 7-year-olds, then I wish they'd be similarly inspired. She was a cool character with more potential, wouldn't mind seeing the franchise to do a bit more with her in animation form, too. And, if they really gotta add those touches to it, give Donnie someone to quietly be smitten with who is NOT April and stop making that weird and obsessive.