Ultimate Ninja Turtles (co-writer requested)

[wyze2099]

Hi guys,

Lately, I've been tossing around ideas for a fanfiction series that retells and revamps the Turtles' origin. Similar to Marvel Comics' Ultimate Marvel line, the series (tentatively called Ultimate Ninja Turtles) would put new spins on the many characters who've appeared in the various incarnations of the TMNT in ways that (hopefully) stay true to the core characters.

Sure, the 2K3 series already did that to some extent, but there were some characters that they didn't have the rights to. In fanfiction, that's not a problem. No TMNT character is off-limits. Each character has a chance to show up in one form or another (not to say they all will, unless the series goes on for a reeeally long time).

For instance, the basic setup is as follows:

Fifteen years ago, martial arts instructor Hamato Yoshi and his wife are murdered in their New York apartment by a man called Shredder, who seeks vengeance for the years-ago death of his older brother. Hamato's rat survives and escapes.

Ten years ago, Oroku Saki (human), head of Oroku International and secretly the Shredder, jonin of the Foot Clan's New York branch, is attacked by a five-foot assassin wearing what looks like a rat costume. Oroku's men manage to drive it away, and it disappears ... evidencing a ninja discipline.

Five years ago, 16-year-old April O'Neil was accosted in an alley by a pair of low-ranking Purple Dragons gang members and almost mugged ... but her attackers are pulled into the shadows and knocked out.

Present day, the Foot Clan's criminal empire flourishes. Tatsu and Hun train street-level ne'er-do-wells like the Purple Dragons into ninja thieves and assassins, overseen by the Shredder and backed by Oroku Saki's corporation. But a new threat to them bears a ring of familiarity: four warriors have surfaced, practicing ninjutsu and wearing what seem to be animal costumes. Turtles, in fact.


So, thoughts? The idea is to release 'issues' on a monthly or bimonthly basis, and I'd like a co-writer for this. In fact, collaborators of any kind are welcome, as I wouldn't mind seeing character designs and/or comic art for this project. PM me if interested.

[The Stryker]

Well I don't have the schedule to be a co-writer but I do have an idea.

If you're really going to do things in the Ultimate style, you need to present the characters...different but the same. Weird I know but here's my idea for "Ultimate Shredder"

Instead of The Shredder being this mantle and just a suit, Shredder would be a sort of split personality from Oroku Saki, but then again....I love the psycho characters and giving Shredder a twist like that is in the vain of Ultimates.

[wyze2099]

[QUOTE=King Stryker]If you're really going to do things in the Ultimate style, you need to present the characters...different but the same.QUOTE]

Waaaaay ahead of you on that. :)

Shredder won't have a split-personality, otherwise with his status as a corporate CEO he might seem too much like Norman Osborn/Green Goblin. Trust me, Oroku Saki will be in full control of his faculties as the Shredder. Which just might be even scarier.

[Ohayo Kame]

Lately, I've been tossing around ideas for a fanfiction series that retells and revamps the Turtles' origin. Similar to Marvel Comics' Ultimate Marvel line, the series (tentatively called Ultimate Ninja Turtles) would put new spins on the many characters who've appeared in the various incarnations of the TMNT in ways that (hopefully) stay true to the core characters.

I am planning a similar project, only I get so sick of origin stories! They're mutant turtle ninjas, I get it... although it's not as bad as shows who's theme song is just someone telling their origin story (like the Powerpuff Girls). Anyway, rather than revamp their origin again I'm just continuing after the unpublished Forever War of Archie comics plus the '80-90's cartoons. These two especially different universes don’t easily fit together, so I let the readers assume their own continuity. Also mine is a comic series rather than fanfiction, hopefully ready to be downloaded sometime after the new movie comes out.

So, thoughts? The idea is to release 'issues' on a monthly or bimonthly basis, and I'd like a co-writer for this. In fact, collaborators of any kind are welcome, as I wouldn't mind seeing character designs and/or comic art for this project. PM me if interested.

I am way ahead of you on that. Here's a redesign of Mona Lisa from OS episode #83, of course it's just a tentative redesign. I was really hoping for more feedback on it.
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=16653

Shredder won't have a split-personality, otherwise with his status as a corporate CEO he might seem too much like Norman Osborn/Green Goblin. Trust me, Oroku Saki will be in full control of his faculties as the Shredder. Which just might be even scarier.

Man, not another the-prime-nemesis-is-a-legitimate-businessman thing; aren't people sick of those yet? No offense intended, but we just got that with the most recent incarnation of Shredder. I think if anything he should return to his original "protection racket" scheme. Well, that's my opinion anyway. In my project I'm bringing them more towards DC style where heroes are allowed to be heroic (at least they used to be); after having a crappy week in real life, the last thing I want to do is read about someone else's problems. Obviously everyone making comics disagrees with me...

[Raven]

Man, not another the-prime-nemesis-is-a-legitimate-businessman thing; aren't people sick of those yet? No offense intended, but we just got that with the most recent incarnation of Shredder. I think if anything he should return to his original "protection racket" scheme. Well, that's my opinion anyway. In my project I'm bringing them more towards DC style where heroes are allowed to be heroic (at least they used to be); after having a crappy week in real life, the last thing I want to do is read about someone else's problems. Obviously everyone making comics disagrees with me...

To tell the truth Saki was never really dealt with as a real buisness man in the new show, we just saw him plotting the turtles demise and so on. So if you think about it Saki in the new toon really could of been doing the "protection racket" deals but where never seen and just done off screen.

We havent seen the different sides of Saki all to much, mostaly him as the shredder, no one has really gone into his inner pyshe all that much. We've seen him use his wits when he tried to get Leo on his side but again it was to gain somthing.

Thats another thing that makes Saki so dangerous, he's a buiness man that controls a army of assassins, to me hes a very interesting character in that way.

[Ohayo Kame]

Sorry, that came of a bit harsh. I am also looking for co-writers, and co-artists, and as many as possible to simulate Archie’s unusual problem of having the story direction change habitually, and art style to switch even more often. However, I’m thinking now that it would just be easier to do my own thing than find people who are similar enough to help me and different enough to add diversity.

[Raven]

Sorry, that came of a bit harsh. I am also looking for co-writers, and co-artists, and as many as possible to simulate Archie’s unusual problem of having the story direction change habitually, and art style to switch even more often. However, I’m thinking now that it would just be easier to do my own thing than find people who are similar enough to help me and different enough to add diversity.

well if your doing it in a comic book format I can provide covers from time to time if need be.

[wyze2099]

I am planning a similar project, only I get so sick of origin stories! They're mutant turtle ninjas, I get it...

The series won't spend a lot of time on the origin story (though it will be told with a few twists in the second issue), but it'll still be included, because there are a few things that always bugged me about their origin that I'll try to address.

I am way ahead of you on that. Here's a redesign of Mona Lisa from OS episode #83, of course it's just a tentative redesign. I was really hoping for more feedback on it.
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=16653

Oh yeah, I've seen that design and I've been meaning to comment. Great design. Raven is currently handling the character designs for the Ultimate NT comic, and he's got some good stuff brewing.

Man, not another the-prime-nemesis-is-a-legitimate-businessman thing; aren't people sick of those yet? No offense intended, but we just got that with the most recent incarnation of Shredder. I think if anything he should return to his original "protection racket" scheme. Well, that's my opinion anyway.

I can't speak for everyone, nor would I want to. As Raven pointed out, the 2K3 cartoon is so far the only one that really presented the businessman angle, and it hasn't actually done much with it. The angle makes sense to me as a way to fund the Foot, and the "protection racket" is part of how he came into the money in the first place; he wisely invested the money from thievery, protection and assassination, creating an influential corporation with a large amount of political power. Since there's no public connection between Oroku Saki the business man and the Foot Clan, he can hide in plain sight.

Another reason I'm using this angle is so I can explore a throwaway line in the first TMNT movie: Shredder told the teenage Foot trainees, "[Shredder] uses you to obtain that which he desires." Which makes me wonder what Shredder desires that would depend on thieving underlings; I'd bet that he makes a fortune off the black market and lives like a king.

In my project I'm bringing them more towards DC style where heroes are allowed to be heroic (at least they used to be); after having a crappy week in real life, the last thing I want to do is read about someone else's problems. Obviously everyone making comics disagrees with me...

Again, I have no idea what everyone thinks. I don't think it's particularly wise to make assumptions. As such, I'm not sure where the comment about crappy lives is coming from or what it refers to. All I ask is for readers to give this a chance, and to refrain from making judgments about this based on limited information.

[Ohayo Kame]

We havent seen the different sides of Saki all to much, mostaly him as the shredder, no one has really gone into his inner pyshe all that much. We've seen him use his wits when he tried to get Leo on his side but again it was to gain somthing.

That was one incident, what about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Final Countdown s.3 v.4? He used a great deal of his own personal wealth to restore the city after the Triceriton war. Yes it was motivated by gaining the downed ships so he could finally leave our pitiful little mud-ball, but he had a big banquet with the mayor and all sorts of aristocrats. I guess it wasn't overdone in TMNT itself; but still 4 out of 5 Superman movies feature Lex Luthor as the main villain, and the other one has a generic evil businessman as the villain.

Well, to each his own; I still miss the days when he and Krang would argue like an old married couple. Together with Bebop and Rocksteady, the Technodrome was the metrosexual capital of New York. I say metrosexual because everyone except Krang has demonstrated an attraction to the opposite sex at some point (and technically Krang has lost his gender along with the rest of his original body).

well if your doing it in a comic book format I can provide covers from time to time if need be.

Anyway, if you want to do covers from time to time it would be most appreciated. The first story arc features the return of Aska, mainly because Shredder would have just been prominently featured in the last five-issue story arc. At any rate, would you be giving story ideas to go with your covers or would I send you the story and then you draw it?

[Raven]

That was one incident, what about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Final Countdown s.3 v.4? He used a great deal of his own personal wealth to restore the city after the Triceriton war. Yes it was motivated by gaining the downed ships so he could finally leave our pitiful little mud-ball, but he had a big banquet with the mayor and all sorts of aristocrats. I guess it wasn't overdone in TMNT itself; but still 4 out of 5 Superman movies feature Lex Luthor as the main villain, and the other one has a generic evil businessman as the villain.

I actually found that to be just bad writting and some what out of character for him.


Anyway, if you want to do covers from time to time it would be most appreciated. The first story arc features the return of Aska, mainly because Shredder would have just been prominently featured in the last five-issue story arc. At any rate, would you be giving story ideas to go with your covers or would I send you the story and then you draw it?


Just send me the story and I can draw a cover for you, or if you have an idea of what you want to see I can do that also.

[host_punktmy]

hey I sent you a message already but I thought I would post on here. I might be interested in being the co-writer. You're idea sounds good, and I do have some thoughts of input. It might be good t owork with another writer for once.

[Ohayo Kame]

Again, I have no idea what everyone thinks. I don't think it's particularly wise to make assumptions. As such, I'm not sure where the comment about crappy lives is coming from or what it refers to. All I ask is for readers to give this a chance, and to refrain from making judgments about this based on limited information.

That refers to me, after I have a crappy week I want to read about people who can make a difference. However, Spiderman popularized the whining-hero syndrome where most of the Superhero comics these days are mostly about the heroes themselves complaining about how they have all this power but they can’t really do anything about it. I apologize again if you thought it was aimed at you, it’s just that I tried to get back into comics and stuck it out for two whole years, but they never get any better. Plus hardly anything remains in continuity for more than a year anyway, so why are we supposed to collect them? I assume there are similar reasons that made you decide to start your own project.

That’s another reason I need help on my comics. You may have noticed I’m a bit scatterbrained sometimes and change subjects mid paragraph...

[Raven]

That refers to me, after I have a crappy week I want to read about people who can make a difference. However, Spiderman popularized the whining-hero syndrome where most of the Superhero comics these days are mostly about the heroes themselves complaining about how they have all this power but they can’t really do anything about it. I apologize again if you thought it was aimed at you, it’s just that I tried to get back into comics and stuck it out for two whole years, but they never get any better. Plus hardly anything remains in continuity for more than a year anyway, so why are we supposed to collect them? I assume there are similar reasons that made you decide to start your own project.

That’s another reason I need help on my comics. You may have noticed I’m a bit scatterbrained sometimes and change subjects mid paragraph...

I see your point but those comics always seem to be the most popular because they hit somthing that every one can relate to.

[wyze2099]

hey I sent you a message already but I thought I would post on here. I might be interested in being the co-writer. You're idea sounds good, and I do have some thoughts of input. It might be good t owork with another writer for once.

Yeah, I'd been meaning to reply to your message. Since you've already collaborated with Raven, this could be interesting. Since the series already has Spawn Guy and myself as co-writers/plotters, I dunno how it might work to have three people on the writing end. I've never tried it, but maybe it could work, especially since the second storyarc has very little set in stone, so I could use quite a bit of help there. So ... welcome aboard.

[Spawn Guy]

I've been wondering about the format: I mean, how are we going to do thid=s as a comic? Some guys do story, some guys do art, some guys do colour? Just like the pros? Or am I running before walking here?

[wyze2099]

That refers to me, after I have a crappy week I want to read about people who can make a difference. However, Spiderman popularized the whining-hero syndrome where most of the Superhero comics these days are mostly about the heroes themselves complaining about how they have all this power but they can’t really do anything about it. I apologize again if you thought it was aimed at you, it’s just that I tried to get back into comics and stuck it out for two whole years, but they never get any better. Plus hardly anything remains in continuity for more than a year anyway, so why are we supposed to collect them? I assume there are similar reasons that made you decide to start your own project.

That’s another reason I need help on my comics. You may have noticed I’m a bit scatterbrained sometimes and change subjects mid paragraph...

It's cool. My primary reason for starting my own project isn't necessarily dissatisfaction with what's going on in the comics (considering I spend more money than I should each month on comics), but a desire to see the results of a story idea I have in my head that might not ever happen in canon. I'm curious as to what might happen, for instance, if all the characters who've ever appeared in a TMNT story existed in the same universe. And another major factor is simply a love for the characters. I don't necessarily have to hate canon in order to be inspired to write fanfiction.

And to be honest .. I like heroes with feet of clay. I don't always like whiny heroes, but I like the idea that superpowers isn't going to solve every problem a character's going to have. And I like it when events in stories have consequences; that's something that'll happen a lot in the Ultimate NT series. The Turtles won't make it through every adventure unscathed; they wouldn't learn much if they did.

[wyze2099]

I've been wondering about the format: I mean, how are we going to do thid=s as a comic? Some guys do story, some guys do art, some guys do colour? Just like the pros? Or am I running before walking here?

The way I'm currently puzzling it out, the co-writers will collaborate on plot, turn that into a script with each one writing different scenes. As far as I know this'll be a black & white (and green) comic, with Raven handling the art chores. And I'd like to do the lettering, though if someone with a decent program (I've just got Photostudio 5 and MS Paint) wants to tackle that part, I wouldn't mind.

Long story short? That part's not yet finalized. I'm open to suggestions.

[host_punktmy]

o I didn't know you were already working with spawn guy. I don't nkow how it would work. I can tell you this much, I have plenty of experience in scripting. Having different writers per scene may not work well but perhaps for each issue t ohave a differnt writer. Or have each of us work on a different story arc. I dunno we can discuss the details later. I'm loging off.

[Mr. Stay Puft]

I've got some concepts for Slash.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/EvilMarkyMark666/Artwork/Slash2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/EvilMarkyMark666/Artwork/Photoshop/Slash1-b.jpg

I've got more artwork of some of my original characters on the artwork page (http://www.freewebs.com/evilmarkymark666/artwork.htm) on my website (http://www.freewebs.com/evilmarkymark666)

Here's an idea of his story. He was mutated along with the turtles, but instead of just being bathed in the ooze, he actually consumed it, producing different effects on him than the other turtles. Splinter still took him in, but could not control him as the consumption of the ooze damaged his mind and also caused him to grow at an increased rate. He fled the lair and took refuge elsewhere laying low until the turtles start going topside. Years later, Slash finds these creature who are "just like him" and follows them. When he realizes their sensei is Splinter, the master who abandoned him, in his mind, he flips out. He starts terrorizing and brutally murdering people. Reports of a "turtle monster" start flying around and Master Splinter is forced to tell the turtles the truth of their long lost brother causing a rift between the turtles and Splinter.

I'm not sure if it would work, but feel free to rework it if you'd like.

[Jade Green]

Good luck with this, I'd really like to see how this goes.

[Ohayo Kame]

He was mutated along with the turtles, but instead of just being bathed in the ooze, he actually consumed it, producing different effects on him than the other turtles.

Ah, retroactive continuity is it? So who have we got there now? Splinter, the four original turtles, Leatherhead, Mondo Gecko, Venus (at the time), Slash, and probably more that I've forgotten. No offense but its just that I've always preferred the TMNT Adventures origin the best, and messing with the origin seems pointless. It's been told and retold and changed and altered; etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. What's the 21st century way of saying that I'm a broken record?

I don't mean to be too critical, mind you, it is a nice picture.

[Ohayo Kame]

It's cool. My primary reason for starting my own project isn't necessarily dissatisfaction with what's going on in the comics (considering I spend more money than I should each month on comics), but a desire to see the results of a story idea I have in my head that might not ever happen in canon.

I know, I've become a sadistic pessamist, it comes from reading DC comics. Marvel seems to be nicer to its fans, but for some reason most of their characters don't apeal to me. I mostly just like Rouge and then the rest of the X-men too I guess.

I'm curious as to what might happen, for instance, if all the characters who've ever appeared in a TMNT story existed in the same universe. And another major factor is simply a love for the characters. I don't necessarily have to hate canon in order to be inspired to write fanfiction.

Yeah, before the 2003 series started I was going to do a mixed universe; but then it seemed unfair if the Mirage characters are currently getting new stories and the classic cartoon characters aren't. I even started a back story where Warlord Krang (after he lost his body) stole the Mutagen from the Utroms by infiltrating their building "disguised" as one. That and several alien parts needed for the half-completed Technodrome... you're free to use that to help merge the universes if you want.

And to be honest .. I like heroes with feet of clay. I don't always like whiny heroes, but I like the idea that superpowers isn't going to solve every problem a character's going to have. And I like it when events in stories have consequences; that's something that'll happen a lot in the Ultimate NT series. The Turtles won't make it through every adventure unscathed; they wouldn't learn much if they did.

Well, mostly the whining gets to me; I guess it's just the age old debate about whether a character, say Superman, should be more powerful or less powerful. Sure blowing out a star like a candle or even pushing planets is too much, but the ultra-weak "mullet-man" days of the comics were probably the worst ever.

Whatever, back to Ninja Turtles; I agree that the might-makes-right approach to Superheroes is bad. I also intend to have consequences and mutant prejudice in my series, but I'm not going to focus on it. Anyway, it seems that we are planning two very similar, yet slightly different projects, and I look forword to swapping ideas and such.

[Mr. Stay Puft]

Well, either way, count me in as a potential plot co-ordinator/ concept artist. I've got some ideas for the Rat King and Krang. I'd love to see Rat King become a Shredder/ Foot-level threat to the turtles.

[wyze2099]

No current in-story plans for the Rat King in UNT, though I do have a vague idea of what I'd do with him if/when he shows up. But I'm certainly open to suggestions.

If the comic gets as far as the third storyarc (issues #9 - #12), Warlord Krang will show up. He'll be an Utrom, and a dangerous criminal similar to what Ch'rell was in the 2k3 cartoon. Yes, that also means the Technodrome will appear. :)

Regarding Slash, there are plans for him in the second arc (#5 - #8), as a snapping turtle mutated by the Foot. Raven was talking about designing him similar to Tokka in TMNT II, but I do like your character design, and the origin was something that I wouldn't have thought of.

[Raven]

I believe most of the character designs are finished, I might go back and do some touch ups but other wise from Wyze and SpawnGuy have planned out most have been finished.

In the next few days I'll have some promo and cover art up so people get an idea of what were going for with this book.

[Mr. Stay Puft]

Well if you need any ideas, I'm more than willing to contribute.

[Raven]

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m199/death_raven_2006/TMNTban.jpg


Just one promo I've put together. More still to come.

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m199/death_raven_2006/Shredban.jpg

[host_punktmy]

well i wonder where you guys are so far? I know Raven's got a script he's workin on. You gotten any further then the first script? I still want to help, and if you're still fleshing out the next arc I would be happy to throw around some ideas.

[Toonami Tom]

Cool! This sounds like it will be great! Any hope for Bebop and Rocksteady? Maybe they wouldn't act as "dumb" as they did in the original toon. I would also like to see Usagi.:) Because theres going to be Krang, it would be cool if General Traag shows up.

[cowabunga14]

Have fun with this comic all you dudes are putting together. Hopefully it'll be worth the wait. I'm looking forward to it very much so.

The promos are lookin' pretty cool. They make the comic all the much more promising.

[Lord Nightwalker]

Sounds interesting.When do we get to see some of your concept works guys? I was going to do something like this last year, But in a totaly different vein. In appearence, my turtles were similar to Zulli's "souls withering" style, But with a touch of the traditional TMNT blended in the mix. that's how my turtle concepts posted at GreenWillows came about. I did dozens of sketches on how I thought they would look. in the end, they were very predatorish, as if the Predator had a reptilian hea, green skin tones, and a shell. All from the influences of Zulli,Classic Mirage, and what I thought was cool. I hadn't intended it to look so Stan winstonish. lol. My Splinter had jet black fur, but Charcoal fur down the front from chest to groin. My Shredder was essential the world's nightmare. Bane of everything. He lived to destroy, Conquest was his only satisfaction. He rose through the ranks and slew the inner circle, wresting power to himself and setting the stage for world domination. The man simply dosen't care about anything other than his agenda. I had just started to figure in Slash and Tokka when I sat it aside. They were essentialy a mad scientist project, Created by rogue Utroms. lol. I guess now we would call them "Replicants". I actualy have started a replicants fanfiction...anyway, I think you have a good start guys. Lets see how it plays out. Good luck!

[wyze2099]

Concept work can be posted shortly, I guess.

I'm not surprised that other people have been tossing around ideas for a similar Ultimate Turtles project, and I think it's pretty cool. Different writers and artists have different ideas on how to approach the material, so I like seeing the different takes on the concept. Your Zulli-esque approach sounds really fascinating, Nightwalker.

There are definite plans for Bebop and Rocksteady. Look for them early on in the series. And I can guarantee they won't be as stupid as they were in the '80s cartoon (it's not hard to smarter than that). While they won't exactly be geniuses, they'll present a threat level for the Turtles akin to what they were in the early episodes of the '80s cartoon, and in the video games where they were level bosses. It always annoyed me that B&R in the cartoon were reduced to pushovers so quickly, so in this series they'll be dangerous again.

Miyamoto Usagi would be a great character to show up eventually; I've always liked him. I'm also fond of General Traag and the rock soldiers, so they'll show up as well.

[Raven]

Well this is a cover for one of the issues, I wont say at the moment.

I dont want to show alot at this moment because I lot is this in flux, nothing has been finalized. I do have some pages done for the first issue, I'm taking my time with it and making sure I do this right and hopefully not make some mistakes that I tend to do.

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m199/death_raven_2006/utncov3.jpg

[Spawn Guy]

As everyone should be able to see, it's going to be pretty easy to tell the Ultimate TMNT apart from their various franchise counterparts.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

This looks interesting. I'm a big fan of Ultimate X-Men and Ultimate Spider-Man so I'm looking forward to seeing how this turns out.

[CJStyles]

Dude if you need another writer I would be more then willing to help out. This seems like such a cool project that I would love to be a part of it

[AquaParade]

I would also be more than willing to lend my ideas to this project. I know you guys already have a pretty big team on the writing/plot outlines,scripting etc, but I have spent much time peicing together my own little tmnt universe in my head, and have a lot of cool ideas that I think would really fit in with an Ultimate style book of the TMNT, so lemme know if you guys need any help!

[Spawn Guy]

I wonder if I should be scared this many people are after my job.

[Jester]

Wow....nice work guys. can't wait to read it. Mikey's Slash origin seems to be almost like some sort of Bizarro Turtle. I kinda like that. Is there more expanding of the origin? I mean E&L never really explained how their TMNT recieved their weapons and "costumes." Just a thought.

Question: Will they be all red, or have multicolored bandanas? (if it's black and white....I guess the point's moot.)

[Raven]

Wow....nice work guys. can't wait to read it. Mikey's Slash origin seems to be almost like some sort of Bizarro Turtle. I kinda like that. Is there more expanding of the origin? I mean E&L never really explained how their TMNT recieved their weapons and "costumes." Just a thought.

Question: Will they be all red, or have multicolored bandanas? (if it's black and white....I guess the point's moot.)


I can answer these questions for ya Jester.

From what I have read that Wyze and SpawnGuy have put together they are expanding on the orgin, but nothing drastic. Things that werent explained will be in this fan comic, think of this has Batman Begins, were going in and giving every thing a reason for being in the story.

As for the bandanas they will be multicolored, I'm hoping soon to have a colored version of the covers finished so I can show them to every one so they can see how it will look.

[Sliced]

Excellent job. I'm really looking forward to it.

The only thing I could really say is that it needs a bit more contrast. I remember that with your last comic, the lack of contrast was a bit hard on the eyes. This is just a little something that would render the reading easier.

Just as an example :

before:

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3977/utncov3du3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

after :
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/2879/utmntcoverzn2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Now sure its not too much of a big deal since there is no small text. But this would make this project of yours even more fun and easier to read for us. I could easily show you how to add contrast in photoshop if you don't know how. It only takes 10 little seconds for each page. And I think its worth it.

But of course you have the last word on this.

And again, I'm really looking forward to this. You're doing a hell of a good job.

[CJStyles]

I wonder if I should be scared this many people are after my job.

LOL nah Im not trying to steal your job. But if there is any way I could write for the project if yall need more writers or whatever that would be cool, if not then I shall enjoy reading Ultimate Ninja Turtles

[Raven]

Excellent job. I'm really looking forward to it.

The only thing I could really say is that it needs a bit more contrast. I remember that with your last comic, the lack of contrast was a bit hard on the eyes. This is just a little something that would render the reading easier.



Already one step ahead of you on that, we have some one that is going to be inking the pages and adding some gray tones so that it has more of mirage feel to it.

And the covers will all be colored as well, but as far as I'm concerned we could always use more artist like if some one would like to split pages with me or do some coloring or extra covers that would be great.

Plus it would be great if people could make a few graphics for the soon to be put up site for the Ultimate Ninja turtles. ^_^

[Spawn Guy]

So...what does everybody think of the guys tattoos?

[CJStyles]

Its cool and different

[DaShredder]

Hmm...This sounds cool,very cool indeed.I just wanna give my 2 cents worth,here. I think we should have Casey Jones have a more prominent role,as more of a fifth member of the team than a guy who occasionally shows up and gets smacked to the side. Also,I think that the Bad guy angle as opposed to the scientist angle would work better for Leatherhead.Lastly,I got an idea for Slash(and Tohka).I got an idea for an arc:

Rogue Turtles:
Part 1,After the failed attempt at making Mutants (Bebop and Rocksteady),the Foot suspect that maybe the fact that the Turtles were turtles had something to do with their intelligence,so they redo the expierment somehow and Tohka and Slash are born(insert other Turtle crime-fighting while this is happening)

Part 2,Casey,who's already met the TMNT by now,meets Tohka first and comes out of the fight,barely alive,and goes to the sewer to warn the turtles.All the while,Slash,who's got more of an assassain-esque persona,is spying and watching the events.

Part 3,The turtles go out to search for the rogue turtle,both turtles end up finding THEM.Extremely brutal battle.April and Casey worry,Shredder watches all these events with the spy cams on the rogue turtles.

Part 4,Casey feels up to speed and decides to go scout out the turtles and April tries to get him not to,but of course he goes,taking some spare ninja stuff from the TMNT hide-out.TMNT still battling turtles,Casey arrives.Don is in really bad shape,with Mike even worse,so Don carries Mike back to the lair.Then the battles are as follows:Casey and Raph VS Tohka and Leo VS Slash.Slash falls off a building into an alley-way,presumably dead,only to return badly bloodied to the Drome issues later.TMNT and Casey go back and reflect on the battle,with an omnious "But,I can't help get the feeling that this isn't over.." Ends with a close-up on Slash's red-eye,opening up.

These are my ideas,you don't have to use them,and don't feel inclined to do so,but,hey....Please?

[Sabacooza]

I can't offer too much due to the fact that I'm usually a pretty busy guy. But, If time allows, I might be able to assist in some small way. Here's some examples of my work.
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9306/shredderstrophybyninjatyc1.jpg
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/9500/intrusionpg2byninjaturtzx6.jpg
and a link to my site in case no one can see the images.
www.ninja-turtles.deviantart.com

[Spawn Guy]

I can't offer too much due to the fact that I'm usually a pretty busy guy. But, If time allows, I might be able to assist in some small way. Here's some examples of my work.
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9306/shredderstrophybyninjatyc1.jpg
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/9500/intrusionpg2byninjaturtzx6.jpg
and a link to my site in case no one can see the images.
www.ninja-turtles.deviantart.com
Like Raven said we could always use some cover and graphics art.
Hmm...This sounds cool,very cool indeed.I just wanna give my 2 cents worth,here. I think we should have Casey Jones have a more prominent role,as more of a fifth member of the team than a guy who occasionally shows up and gets smacked to the side. Also,I think that the Bad guy angle as opposed to the scientist angle would work better for Leatherhead.Lastly,I got an idea for Slash(and Tohka).I got an idea for an arc:

Rogue Turtles:
Part 1,After the failed attempt at making Mutants (Bebop and Rocksteady),the Foot suspect that maybe the fact that the Turtles were turtles had something to do with their intelligence,so they redo the expierment somehow and Tohka and Slash are born(insert other Turtle crime-fighting while this is happening)

Part 2,Casey,who's already met the TMNT by now,meets Tohka first and comes out of the fight,barely alive,and goes to the sewer to warn the turtles.All the while,Slash,who's got more of an assassain-esque persona,is spying and watching the events.

Part 3,The turtles go out to search for the rogue turtle,both turtles end up finding THEM.Extremely brutal battle.April and Casey worry,Shredder watches all these events with the spy cams on the rogue turtles.

Part 4,Casey feels up to speed and decides to go scout out the turtles and April tries to get him not to,but of course he goes,taking some spare ninja stuff from the TMNT hide-out.TMNT still battling turtles,Casey arrives.Don is in really bad shape,with Mike even worse,so Don carries Mike back to the lair.Then the battles are as follows:Casey and Raph VS Tohka and Leo VS Slash.Slash falls off a building into an alley-way,presumably dead,only to return badly bloodied to the Drome issues later.TMNT and Casey go back and reflect on the battle,with an omnious "But,I can't help get the feeling that this isn't over.." Ends with a close-up on Slash's red-eye,opening up.

These are my ideas,you don't have to use them,and don't feel inclined to do so,but,hey....Please?

I've got some plans for Slash. Going to have to okay them with wyze first but we'll see.

[DaShredder]

Okay,cool.Thanks for the consideration.I was thinking that maybe you guys could make like rough drafts of the comics with sprites or stick figures with character heads on them. PM me if I can help with this in any way.

[Kendamu]

I'm not a big fanfic reader in the least, but this sounds like something I'd actually read.

[DaShredder]

Actually Raph,from what I understand they were going to make it a fanfic,but,found some awesome artists and decided to do it as a comic book.

[Kendamu]

Well, that just makes it even better!

[DaShredder]

Very much so,my friend! Hmm...I haven't heard much from the authors though,you guys still alive? Kidding. But,seriously how's the comic coming along?

[pwnage]

Uhm, this may sound like a stupid suggestion, but shouldn't it be a revamp of the Mirage comic exclusivley? I just think that it would be kind of futile to redo the show or the Archie comic, considering the new show.

That said, I'd be down for doing art. You can see my crap in this thread:

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=17706

I'll post some sketches or whatever.

PS Sliced the composition on that drawing is hardcore.

[host_punktmy]

I don't think that's what's meant. From what I gather they're basically just taking influinces from those series'. It's not specifically based on any one series or volume, just an amalgamation of all of the good things from over the years. It's like what they did with the first movie, they took all of the best elements from the comics and the toon and created an amazing story. Anyway it should be good. I can't wait t osee the finished product and that's saying something considering I'm one of the guys actually working on it. I'm inking and coloring, lettering

[Spawn Guy]

Uhm, this may sound like a stupid suggestion, but shouldn't it be a revamp of the Mirage comic exclusivley? I just think that it would be kind of futile to redo the show or the Archie comic, considering the new show.

That said, I'd be down for doing art. You can see my crap in this thread:

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=17706

I'll post some sketches or whatever.

PS Sliced the composition on that drawing is hardcore.

That is nice crap. Could we see some Turtle stuff?

We'll actually be doing a little bit of everything (that worked) from each version. A lot of the Mirage comics and the new show will be in there. Hopfuly we'll pull it off and make it interesting without making them arrogant jerks or somthing in the process.

[Raven]

Okay,cool.Thanks for the consideration.I was thinking that maybe you guys could make like rough drafts of the comics with sprites or stick figures with character heads on them. PM me if I can help with this in any way.

That just happens to be one of the many steps that is taken when creating a comic. When I receive a script from Wyze or Spawnguy I always do thumbnail sketches before I go right into the actual pages. But theres really no point in showing those because there rough sketches and dont always end up in the final product. Plus we want the comic to be a surpise when you read it, so why would we show you rough sketches of the pages before the final product?

Any way the site is being built right now, head over there and you'll be able to see a preview of the cover for issue 3 now in color.
http://geocities.com/ultimate_ninja_turtles


and the last update from me is I've finsihed the pencils for the short Superman comic
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=17266
so now I can devote all my time once again to finsihing up this comic.

[Spawn Guy]

That just happens to be one of the many steps that is taken when creating a comic. When I receive a script from Wyze or Spawnguy I always do thumbnail sketches before I go right into the actual pages. But theres really no point in showing those because there rough sketches and dont always end up in the final product. Plus we want the comic to be a surpise when you read it, so why would we show you rough sketches of the pages before the final product?
Could I see? You know, just a PM between co...whatever we co with?

Any way the site is being built right now, head over there and you'll be able to see a preview of the cover for issue 3 now in color.
http://geocities.com/ultimate_ninja_turtles
That's beautiful. I was kind of afraid the tattoos wouldn't work but they really do. Your detail looks good in colour. Aren't you glad I gave Don that utility belt?

[Raven]

Could I see? You know, just a PM between co...whatever we co with?


That's beautiful. I was kind of afraid the tattoos wouldn't work but they really do. Your detail looks good in colour. Aren't you glad I gave Don that utility belt?


Heh you also thought of giving him a Utility belt? Heh I didnt know that, I just drew it randomly when creating the covers.

P.S. we all talked about changing there clothes from time to time so dont expect them to be wearing the same things in each issue or whatever.

I like the tattoos, makes it easier to tell who they are from one another.

Host did a good job with the coloring, we still have more coming. Plus I have Sabacooza working on something for us.

[Spawn Guy]

Like Raph's going around nakid on eissue, then has a "No fat chicks" T shirt the next?

[Raven]

Like Raph's going around nakid on eissue, then has a "No fat chicks" T shirt the next?

:lol: exactly!

[Spawn Guy]

I'm going to have to come up with some shirts.

[Raven]

Just in case any one missed the link I posted on the 3rd page for the website that will be hosting the comic here is the preview image to one of the covers for the Ultimate Ninja Turtles. It is still being worked on so please wait to review the image.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/majorpain1/backkkkk.jpg

Drawn by: Nick M
Colored by: Tim V


And yes were still looking for other artists that would like to do something with us weather it be helping out with pages, covers and what not.

[wyze2099]

*jaw drops*

Okay, that is an astounding inking/coloring job. Tim V gets serious props!

[Sewer Bull]

Judging on Raven's cover and on Spawn Guy's dialogues presented in the other thread, "UNT" sounds very promising.

2007 - the year of the movie and UNT series!

[discordiatookie]

this looks pretty awesome! i dig the tattoos, they look cool... a question or two though...

is this just gonna be an online comic, or are you gonna actually do some prints? i'd definitely buy it, you could maybe set up a paypal account or something for people to pay...

[Spawn Guy]

Not to speak for Wyze or Raven, but I honestly don't see how we'd be able to print it without Eastman and Laird coming down on us like Godzilla's foot or something. Online fan stuff is one thing, but I really don't think we'd get away selling the likeness of other people's characters over the internet. And I really don't want to be stepped on by Godzilla's foot. It stinks under there and I have no ****ing idea where its been.

[Raven]

this looks pretty awesome! i dig the tattoos, they look cool... a question or two though...

is this just gonna be an online comic, or are you gonna actually do some prints? i'd definitely buy it, you could maybe set up a paypal account or something for people to pay...


Like SpawnGuy said selling this would be a big no no, but if people really demand it we could firgure a way to do so. As in you dont pay for the prints but you make donations to cover the costs of printing it.

But other wise I believe we would like to stay far away from trying to sell it.

[Spawn Guy]

One way to do it might be just to get an ordinary printer, copy and paste pages into a word document and print it yourself. Then you technically get it for free.

[wyze2099]

Spawn and Raven are defintely correct on this: Ultimate NT is a fan endeavor, and we cannot profit off of this. We could break even in order to pay for the printing costs as Raven suggested, but otherwise, making money off of these characters is a legal no-no. Fan writers are artists are typically left alone by corporate owners unless there's a direct profit to be made.

But hey, I'm flattered that you like the project and the artwork enough to want to buy the print. That means we're doing something right. :)

[Sewer Bull]

One way to do it might be just to get an ordinary printer, copy and paste pages into a word document and print it yourself. Then you technically get it for free.

Will you send me your autograph and personal dedication? Then I could print it on the first page.

BTW - I hope you're going to choose some decent and climatic font for the lettering. Times New Roman just didn't work in that Leonardo one-shot of yours, Raven.

[Spawn Guy]

Seriously? Uh, wow, I'm flattered. My real name or my user name? That might be difficult unless I can get my hands on a scanner. On the cover or just scribble it on something and scan it in?

[Sewer Bull]

Seriously? Uh, wow, I'm flattered. My real name or my user name? That might be difficult unless I can get my hands on a scanner. On the cover or just scribble it on something and scan it in?

You can always write it with a mouse.

[Spawn Guy]

Yes, but that's so dreadfully common.

[Sewer Bull]

The less common the better.

When you become a huge-ass script writer, I might sell my issue with your dedication for a nice sum of money one day.

[Spawn Guy]

Thus removing any emotional value, you soulless commoner.

[Raven]

Will you send me your autograph and personal dedication? Then I could print it on the first page.

BTW - I hope you're going to choose some decent and climatic font for the lettering. Times New Roman just didn't work in that Leonardo one-shot of yours, Raven.

Oh hell I'm not handling the lettering, we have other people doing that.

I got the easiest job in my opinion, I just draw. :D



We could break even in order to pay for the printing costs as Raven suggested

Actually it wouldnt cost us a dime, Tim is still going to school and they let him use the huge ass free printers there for free because he's still a student. So if people really want something we could possible do it (for free of course) but I was thinking it would be cooler to put something together after a few issues.

[Sewer Bull]

Thus removing any emotional value, you soulless commoner.

Oh hush. I'll photocopy it before selling.

It'll always have a special place in my heart.

Oh hell I'm not handling the lettering, we have other people doing that.

I got the easiest job in my opinion, I just draw. :D


Now I'm feeling comforted.

[wyze2099]

Oh hell I'm not handling the lettering, we have other people doing that.

*raises hand* Comic Book Creator software comes in handy that way.

I got the easiest job in my opinion, I just draw. :D

That never struck me as being the easiest part of putting together a comic, but if you say so, Raven. :)


Actually it wouldnt cost us a dime, Tim is still going to school and they let him use the huge ass free printers there for free because he's still a student. So if people really want something we could possible do it (for free of course) but I was thinking it would be cooler to put something together after a few issues.

A printed TPB of the first storyarc, maybe?

[Spawn Guy]

Oh hush. I'll photocopy it before selling.
It'll always have a special place in my heart.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e3/Hushx.jpg
I'll Hush you!
It'll always have a special place in my heart.
Awww...

[Raven]

I'm trying to put together the site for this comic but I'm unsure of what to all add for the content, all I know is that we need a page for the comic it self.

Any suggetions as to what else the site could hold.

I could always add a gift art page if people send in fan art, but other wise I'm brain dead.

[Spawn Guy]

Fact files? Like you draw one of the characters, scan it in and we all get together to add in a bunch of facts. In like, a file.

[Sewer Bull]

WALLPAPERS! *drools*

[discordiatookie]

In like, a file.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

sorry, that made me laff! i see what you mean about getting sued, or summit, if you all were to actually print it... although i'm an avid 2000AD reader, and there's now a fanzine type thingy called "zarjaz" which is totally unofficial, made by fans, for fans, its pretty cool... there's strips in it, as well as interviews and whatnot, and it sells for £2.50 per issue, when 2000AD only sells for like £1.75 (i think!) thing is, they've actually got the blessings of the 2000AD guys though...

i can settle with saving all the issues and printing them myself, i haveta so do that with MNT Gaiden too...

as for the site, get a forum! a character profiles area, previews area, perhaps a progress report area, i dunno :ohwell: spawny could have a bit where he puts up random snippets of dialogue,...

[Spawn Guy]

Wouldn't that count as part of the preview area? ;)

Actually Wyze said something about audio trailers for the first four or so issues, kind of like the narrated intros on the 2003 show. Progress report sounds interesting...

As for a forum, let's not run before we can crawl here. That takes time, people and organization (or so I'm told) and maybe it would take off if enough people are into the comic once we're up and running. Although, maybe it might just be easier to link back to here for official discussion. We could have an official forum just for the comic if Krang thinks its ok. Hell, maybe if people search around enough we'd end up with a couple of new members.

"Not shell-shocked enough? Clink this link to enter The Technodrome, home of official Ultimate Ninja Turtles discussion."

What do you think?

[Duke]

I'm interested in the fan comic. The art looks great.

[hazlov2004]

me too im looking forword to reading your comic

[Spawn Guy]

Okay, Sabacooza and pwnage have volunteered...any other artists out there?

[Raven]

Pages are being drawn up and toned, it will still take quite awhile until were finished on this end but were getting there.

I'm still working on the site, its coming along slowly. I've taken all the suggetions that you guys gave me so hopefully I'll be getting to a finished product some time soon.

Plus I have a small little surpise for every one but I dont want to give it away quite yet, but it will defiently be worth the wait.

[Sewer Bull]

Plus I have a small little surpise for every one but I dont want to give it away quite yet, but it will defiently be worth the wait.

... "April in a bikini" wallpaper?

[Spawn Guy]

Is it that obvious?

[Raven]

... "April in a bikini" wallpaper?

Dammit Sewer Bull, now the cats out of the bag!

[CJStyles]

lol wow and guys everywhere would go goo goo for a cartoon lol

[Spawn Guy]

Then what's the point of a comic?;)

Seriously though, any Newgrounds artists want to make a little ad or something, we wouldn't mind. Any flash masters hanging around here?

[Spawn Guy]

Ladies and gentlemen...just to let you know we're still alive, here's a a suprise preveiw: Ultimate Splinter!
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m199/death_raven_2006/TMNTpg1.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m199/death_raven_2006/TMNTpg2.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m199/death_raven_2006/TMNTpg3.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m199/death_raven_2006/TMNTpg4.jpg
Don't you feel all warm and fuzzy now?

[GK Punk]

That looks amazing

[Sewer Bull]

Oh wow. Looks pretty neat.

[Sliced]

That's very good. You guys are up for something quite interesting to say the least. Can't wait to see it with colors.

Man are we good or what ?! :lol:

[hazlov2004]

keep up the good work im looking forword to this ok.

[Raven]

That's very good. You guys are up for something quite interesting to say the least. Can't wait to see it with colors.

Man are we good or what ?! :lol:

Actually the interiors are going to be just black and white with tones, the covers are going to be in color.

Thanks every one, I just received the final colors for the cover so I'll put that up some time soon.

[Raven]

Heres the finished colors for the cover, sorry to say but this is the last thing you'll be seeing for a very long time.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/majorpain1/tmntcover1v2copy.jpg

[Sewer Bull]

Coloring looks spectacular... safe for the background, maybe. But that's just me.

[Sliced]

I don't like the background, and I don't like the color scheme for the Foot ninjas. Other than that, its great.

[Ra]

Damn, that looks nice. Just watch your colors on the Foot Soliders. The grey...I don't know. It doesn't work for me :ohwell: Other than that, nice work! :D

[hazlov2004]

wow your good

[Spawn Guy]

Every one who hates the cover shut up.

I have spoken!

[CJStyles]

DUDE I love the cover