Tokyo Game Show

[Peanut]

We're mere days away from TGS, the show that has been pegged as the spiritual sucessor to E3. I'm not overly excited, but there's sure to be some great announcements and games shown at the show.

This show seems like it's all about the PS3. Sony is going to have to work hard and deliver to dig themselves out of the ever-growing hole they've been digging away at since E3. I expect them to come out in top form and give us an impression of exactly what to expect from the PS3. I'm sure Japan will eat it up.

The 360 will be there too, but it's doubtful if it'll make as much of a splash as the PS3. There are some interesting things going to be shown there, though. Both Mistwalker games, Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey, will be on display and I'm pretty sure LO will have a huge demo to be played there.

I don't know if the Wii will be on hand, but I'm doubtful. I think there's going to be some 3rd party Wii stuff, but nothing major from Nintendo, if anything at all. They'll probably have some DS stuff to show off though.

Some of the big stuff confirmed to be at the show are: Devil May Cry 4, Final Fantasy XIII, MGS4: Guns of the Patriots for the PS3. And Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey and Too Human for the 360.

Personally I'm looking forward to the 360 showing more than anything, those two RPG's look crazy. Blue Dragon, for those who don't know, is a renuion for some of the important people who created the SNES game Chrono Trigger. Sakaguchi (Who's leading the project), Uematsu (Who's compsing the music), and Toriyama (Who's doing the character designs). So that game has a lot of potential to be a really ground-breaking RPG for the 360 in Japan.

So who else is looking forward to TGS?

[愛]

I'm sure PS3 is going to be the major contender at TGS, seeing as how Japan simply loves their Playstation. I also know that PS3 is going to be awful, so I'm not going to care about that part. I would like to see more of FFXIII and MGS4, though. Too bad I won't be playing them.

Blue Dragon is something I'm probably looking forward to the most. If that game won't get me to buy a 360, then nothing will. A wonderful cast of developers working on that project has got me very excited. I'd also like to see what Mistwalker is all about. *coughPEANUTISAJAPLOVERcough*

I'm not sure what to expect from Nintendo this year, but like Peanut said, it'll probably be mostly upcoming DS games. Something to look forward to, but not so much. I do wanna see more FFIII, though.

So...count me in as looking forward to TGS.

[Dr. Doom]

Hopefully we'll at least get some more info on SSBB.

[Peanut]

Don't count on it. I don't think Nintendo is even going to have a presence at TGS, with the exception of some DS stuff. They're not having a press conference or anything as far as I know.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Yeah, Nintendo traditionally stays away from TGS and Sony was heavily involved in the creation of the event. They hold announcements around the same period as TGS to steal hype, but they never attend in any form.

As for TGS, there are supposed to be 100+ XBL downloads available from Wednesday to the end of the week, so it's going to be a fun time to be a 360 owner this week. I'm personally hoping for some new info on Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey, and I want a demo for Sonic the Hedgehog. There's supposed to be some nw XBLArcade titles announced as well.

It should be a fun week.

[Mecha Cow]

Wasn't Iwata going to give a speech on the 23rd or something? But we already know all the important Wii info anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

[Barkworm]

Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon have both been shown at Microsoft's press conference and will be playable. Microsoft announced that Japan will get a 360 Core/Blue dragon bundle for Yen 29.800. Pretty good deal.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Okay, if a game that georgious from the Chrono Trigger dimi-gods dosen't sell in Japan, 360 or not, then there is no hope, and all those fangirls dressed as Cloud camping outside the door of TGS right now only care about the Final Fantasy brand name and nothing more.......

http://img283.echo.cx/img283/2093/wwe1ho.jpg


So much for the Holiday sellout :sweatdro: :lol:

[Peanut]

WOW. Just tage a look at the 360 games shown here (http://www.gamespot.com/events/tgs2006/images.html). Is it just me, or does this look like a line-up that Sony would have!?! :o

About 5 JRPG's, a Squenix game, some kind of Samurai action game, some Jpop dancing game, a card-based battle RPG. Microsoft is really gunning for the Japanese market. There's some really interesting stuff on there. Lost Odyssey looks beautiful.

Also try check out the 360 highlight video on this (http://www.gamespot.com/events/tgs2006/live.html) page. It shows of all that stuff. Really cool. I'm impressed that they're actually trying this hard, as opposed to just forgetting about the Japanese market like they did with the Xbox.

Edit: Sorry, Tri-Ace announced a new 360 game, Infinite Undiscovery. It's not known if that's a code name or the offical name. All the info that's been given out is that it's a real-time battle RPG. There's one picture out there somewhere. I don't know where I found it, but it looks awesome.

[愛]

I'm not gonna lie, and I know this is very typical of me, but I think Oneechanbara vorteX is the sexiest game ever. If that ever makes it here, consider it purchased.

Very interesting lineup. You're very right, Peanut, they are making a great effort to try and appeal to the Japanese market. They might even pull it off. I even see a dating sim game in there. Ridiculous.

[Peanut]

I found a video of the Lost Odyssey demo showed off during the MS press conference earlier this afternoon. It wasn't supposed to be filmed, so this dude snuck and camera in there to do it. I can't even remember where I foudn it. I was following a bunch of links to various sites and messages boards until I stumbled across it. Anyways, the download I got it from was going at about 2.3/kb a second on average, so it just finished DL'ing about 20 minutes ago. I finally watched it and...wow. That's really all I can say.

I'm currently in the process of uploading it to rapidshare for anyone who wants to try and grab it. It isn't a big file. Only 128 MB, so I shouldn't be too long. I'll update with the link in just a little bit.

Edit: Here it is http://rapidshare.de/files/33863082/tgs_msconf_lopart2.avi.html Enjoy!!!

[Barkworm]

I found a video of the Lost Odyssey demo showed off during the MS press conference earlier this afternoon. It wasn't supposed to be filmed, so this dude snuck and camera in there to do it. I can't even remember where I foudn it. I was following a bunch of links to various sites and messages boards until I stumbled across it. Anyways, the download I got it from was going at about 2.3/kb a second on average, so it just finished DL'ing about 20 minutes ago. I finally watched it and...wow. That's really all I can say.
Why are you interested in this game? As far as I get it it's basically Final Fantasy with another name and character designs by one of my favourite artists (Takehiko Inoue). :lol:
Oh, and yeah, I'm sold.

[ThirdMarioBro]

This is the Chrono Team. For a game those guys make, I can only say two words by default.

"F*cking Sold"

Thank you.

I'm not gonna lie, and I know this is very typical of me, but I think Oneechanbara vorteX is the sexiest game ever. If that ever makes it here, consider it purchased.

It's damned shallow of you too.........yeah, I'm buying it too.

Honestly, my Wii and 360 are going to make me so damned happy for the next 5 years. So much fun I can hardly stand it. Best time to be a gamer starts now.

[Peanut]

Why are you interested in this game? As far as I get it it's basically Final Fantasy with another name and character designs by one of my favourite artists (Takehiko Inoue). :lol:
Oh, and yeah, I'm sold.

Because according to reports they aren't going to be working with a normal turn-based battle system. That's why I like Enchanted Arms for 360. For all intents and purposes, it's a FF game, but the battle system, among other things, really makes it stand out to me.

I don't hate RPG's in general. I hate lackluster, cookie-cutter, by the book RPG's. I also enjoy platforming/action games a lot more, but RPG's are alright as long as they don't follow the boring and done to death battle system that the FF series has used for far too many entries in the series.

[Barkworm]

Because according to reports they aren't going to be working with a normal turn-based battle system.
Really? Where did you read that? The gameplay in the video looked liked usual turn-based combat to me.

[Peanut]

It was in an interview with Sakaguchi who said they would focus on a lot of huge battles, and the system they were working with in those battles was far from ordinary, but not so far as to alienate RPG lovers. A little more action oriented stuff I think. I found it on a forum somewhere, the guy linked to the Japanese Mistwalker page and some parts were in english, while other people were translating pieces of it.

[Barkworm]

Now that you say it, I remember that, too. That's actually pretty cool.

[Peanut]

It is cool. It's going to be a great game.

Has anyone watched the Blue Dragon gameplay footage? It seems like you can see enemies before you battle them, which is something I love. I can't describe how annoying it is to be trying to solve a puzzle and to keep popping into random monsters. It looks beautiful and the music also sounds really good. The "special" moves, for lack of a better term, also look amazing.

Another cool thing is that the characters don't actually attack. Their "shadows" do. But each character has their own special shadow. Like the main characters is the Blue Dragon apparently. There's a girl who has a kind of bird. There's some weird kind of bar at the top of the screen during battles. It may just be showing when each character gets their turn, but I don't know what would account for all the weird lines and everything.

I'm really excited about this game. Isn't that crazy? I think it is. If Lost Odyssey and this, which is being offered as a pack-in game for a lowered price in Japan, doesn't get 360's to sell. Nothing will.

[Dr. Doom]

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[Peanut]

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???? What?

[Dr. Doom]

I posted the sonic pic here before I remembered there was a sonic 360 thread. And we can't delete our own posts.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Sony Conference Live:

http://ps3.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=3421

[Peanut]

This is worse than the E3 conference. It's good to know that the internet is faster than it was and that the first Playstation was a huge success. :o

Edit: OH GOD! LOL! Kutaragi is basically saying "Everything is going to suck, our online plan, our games won't be amazing, but they'll get better in a couple years! The hardware is overkill, but we need to sell it to you now to keep up with Microsoft and Nintendo and to rip you off while this stuff is still expensive. Don't worry it'll get better eventually. By the way all this crap...not our fault! :)

[ThirdMarioBro]

They're ripping off the Wii's VC, and getting Genesis and Turbografx games to compete. Too bad they'll never have the "good" stuff.

[Peanut]

Oh wow. It ended. They showed Africa to end it all. Way to go Sony. You really made your fans feel good!

[Dr. Doom]

uhm.... ftl?

[Peanut]

FTL...big time! The complete and utter anger that has begun to spew forth from the Sony faithful, even the ones who kept their fanboy caps on up to this point, has finally reached it's limit. This was the last big mistake for Sony.

[Spitfire]

Want to see the bottom of the barrel for hardcore Sony fanboys look here
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=927750

And as you can see already from the title -_- The stuff they talk about on there is so stupid. Most of it is how the graphics are supposed to be better then 360 or they list games that will be on PS3 and not 360.

One guy did a topic listing 20 something games that the PS3 will have exclusively. Except in the end his list really only had 2 games so his defense to that was "They will be better on PS3" Pure idiots.

Anyways it's nice to see Microsoft trying to appeal to the Japanese auidence of gamers more with these RPGs. Let's hope they don't turn out like N3.

[Dr. Doom]

Even the new MGS trailer was underwhelming. That's saying a lot coming from me, I guess. It's just like they weren't even trying anymore.

[Spitfire]

Even the new MGS trailer was underwhelming. That's saying a lot coming from me, I guess. It's just like they weren't even trying anymore.
Yeah the flow of new DMC info is dissappointing as well. Looks like another DMC 2.

You only fight with your left arm, don't play as Dante, have a move that stuns every enemy allowing you to do combos on them while their stunned, their making it easier to casual gamers can pick it up*Meaning everyone will think it's the best game ever like RE 4 <_<*, and it's rumored that the main character's*So awesomely named Nero(sarcasm)* right arm is Vergil's.

Woo go Capcom you can rip off Metal Gear Solid. Game fails to impress me and with that news I'm fully willing to accept not buying a PS3. To be honest I have been since I found out DMC 3 was on PC. I liked MGS 3 alot but 4 looks a little to Sci-fi for my taste. Even if I'm sure it will most likely be a good game. But I don't care to find out if I have to buy a PS3 to play it.

[Peanut]

Sony dropped the price of the lower-end PS3, also known as the GimpStation 3, in Japan only. Apparently the Japanese are super pissed at what's been going on with Sony, and their horrid keynote last night was the last straw. Because of all this pressure Sony decided to drop the price from 60,000 yen to 49,980. Even the Japanese are finally tired of all Sony's crap. This news hasn't help out their status over there either, as many still think it's too much for what you're getting and Sony has done nothing to prove that they aren't just blowing smoke out their ass, as many have speculated since two E3's ago.

I found this news to be quite funny. Sony, for all their talk of, "The next gen starts when we say it starts" and all of the boasting and bullsh*tting they've done, and now they have to drop the price in their home territoty BEFORE RELEASE! I think it's obvious that somewhere there's a board room full of sweaty Japanese men that are nervous as hell.

Sony isn't looking like such a confident bunch of loud mouthed show offs anymore. I'm so glad those arrogant asses got what was coming to them. If they were so damn sure that their product was the best on the market, this price drop wouldn't have happened. They're scared and I love it.

[Kid Icarus]

Haven't been following TGS much, what with the lack of anything Nintendo related...

But a friend at work today told me about the PS3 drop in Japan. Didn't say what too though... That drop's not enough.

And it's now set... a console maker can only stay at the top of the industry for two generations. Atari, Nintendo, and from what it looks like... Sony, have all crumpled after two leading generations.

[Peanut]

Apparently they're making a KHII SE, like with the first one, and it's going to have a second disk with a full remake of the GBA KH game. Full 3D graphics and all that included. I really hope we get a NA release, I need that sh*t! Not playing the GBA game made the second one so hard to grasp at first.

[ThirdMarioBro]

See, I never played any of them. Typical I just bought them both :roll:

Screw the GBA game. I'll wait for this sucker. Also...time for a good laugh.

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/ridge-racer-7/tgs06-ridge-racer-7--too-hot-for-tgs-202609.php

I understood all the PS3's dying at E3. Hell, I saw a Wii/Overclocked GameCube melt down too. I know, because I crashed it. Running SMGalaxy's physics engine on a SuperCube. :lol: Bad idea.

But for the PS3's to be dying at TGS, LESS THAN TWO MONTHS BEFORE LAUNCH!!!! I can smell the class action lawsuit in the air for a faulty product. If Japan is even mad as hell at them, blood is in the air.

Congradulations Sony, you loose. (http://kaz.ytmnd.com/)

BAHAHAHAhA!!!!!!

[Peanut]

Doesn't seem like that big of a deal. It even said they're probably breaking down because of software in that post, not the actual hardware. And for all intents and purposes, isn't the Wii just a SuperCube with a new control scheme? And exactly what kind of "physics" system was SMGalaxy running? There didn't seem to be a whole lot going on from the videos I'd seen.

[Barkworm]

"White Knight Story" is my personal game of the show. Beautiful.

[Peanut]

Yeah, that game looks totally cool. It won't live up to that demo though. No way in hell. Like most PS3 games thus far, the videos have looked better than the actual game.

[Mecha Cow]

Yeah, that video had some sick animation. One of the few games I've seen so far that deserves to be called 'Next-Gen' IMO.

[Peanut]

The thing that makes me sceptical about the game is that it's only 10% complete in development. For the video to look that polished at only 10%...well...it kind of seems like they made this video to show what their vision for the game is. "Well...uh...this is what we hope it looks and plays like...we'll get there...I hope."

[ThirdMarioBro]

Doesn't seem like that big of a deal. It even said they're probably breaking down because of software in that post, not the actual hardware. And for all intents and purposes, isn't the Wii just a SuperCube with a new control scheme? And exactly what kind of "physics" system was SMGalaxy running? There didn't seem to be a whole lot going on from the videos I'd seen.

The Wii has an individual physics processor to take the load off of the main CPU and let it handle stuff like complex AI. For example, one of the things the co-processor was doing was running all the gravitational pulls from all those planets in space.

[Peanut]

The Wii has an individual physics processor to take the load off of the main CPU and let it handle stuff like complex AI. For example, one of the things the co-processor was doing was running all the gravitational pulls from all those planets in space.

But why would it need to be running the "physics" on these planets when Mario doesn't interact with them until he's near them? And I don't think it takes too much power to make something stick to the ground.

Either way, it's good that there's a seperate physics processor, which is something the PS3 was supposed to have. I don't know if that ended up happening, but it'll take a ton of strain off of the console.

But physics processor or not, the Wii is a beefed up Cube, wether we admit it or not. We've got to face the facts sometime.

[Barkworm]

The thing that makes me sceptical about the game is that it's only 10% complete in development. For the video to look that polished at only 10%...well...it kind of seems like they made this video to show what their vision for the game is. "Well...uh...this is what we hope it looks and plays like...we'll get there...I hope."
Level 5 is known for quality, I'm sure they'll be able to live up to this.

[Peanut]

I'd hardly call two Dark Cloud games "known for quality", but I guess. It's just that whenever we see a video like this, especially when a game is just in the beginning stages, it never lives up to the hype.

[Barkworm]

They also did "Dragon Quest VIII" and "Rogue Galaxy".

[Peanut]

But is Dragon Quest actually a good game? Isn't it just another generic RPG? The Japanese eat it up, because that's what they do. I never heard a single person talk about it over here. Maybe that's just me. What's Rouge Galaxy? Never heard of it.

I hope they can live up to that trailer/demo thing, because it looks amazing. When I play an RPG, that's what I want in a battle system, actual interaction. Looks really cool. I just hope it's not just the hype machine getting rolling, as it always tends to do. I just really have a super sceptical look on videogames these days. Too often are we tricked into this hype, only to get a sub-par product. I'm at the point now where I'll believe it when I play it.

[Barkworm]

Let's put it this way: Dragon Quest VIII had extremely high production values but if you don't like the typical turn-based combat and random battles you won't like it. It's extremely oldschool. Rogue Galaxy is their latest PS2 game and hasn't been released in the USA yet. It also looks very promising.
Maybe I'm just impressed because I had really high hopes for Mistwalker's demoes and they turned out pretty underwhelming. Even I can admit that the usual turn based based battles haven't aged that well but Mistwalker seems to simply rehash all those old gameplay mechanics. "White Knight Stories" looks more like the kind of RPG I was looking forward to. Wether it will be actually good remains to be seen, of course.

[Kid Icarus]

I dunno, I heard alot about the new Dragon Quest game. A lot. As in, olmost all of my friends, even those not obsessed with Japan, were engrossed with the game until they beat it.

[Barkworm]

It's cool! I need to find the time to play DQ again but it's just so incredibly time consuming (so far I've played about 30 hours and have only beaten about 25% of it).

[Peanut]

I dunno, I heard alot about the new Dragon Quest game. A lot. As in, olmost all of my friends, even those not obsessed with Japan, were engrossed with the game until they beat it.

You're talking nerds. I'm talking my friends. Casual or non-exsistant gamers. No one outside of the videogame community knows what the hell Dragon Quest is.

[Barkworm]

True that, DQVIII was a bomb in America. Anyway, I think Gwg was just talking about the game's quality.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I admit that the Wii is just a Super Cube, but I also admit that I really don't give a damn. It's enough. Yes, I wish there were more power in the box, but it does the job, so I don't care. The only thing that burns me is the price.


Now, a gift for PJ.....my wallpaper.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/banjofieldgp012d.jpg

Jesus, next year is going to be a golden year in gaming history.

[Peanut]

I've watched that trailer so many times it's painful. I've been listening to the theme song non-stop.