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Wildcat
10-06-2006, 09:11 PM
I am a fan of the Power Rangers,not a big a fan as I am of TMNT,but none-the-less I enjoy watching the Power Rangers and there re-runs,so a few days ago I caught an episode of 'Power Rangers in Space'(they show re-runs on ToonDisney/Jet-X,but you might already know that),and the episode was called 'Shell Shocked' and it has the Turtles from thier 'Next Mutataion' versions,Boy was I surprised too see this.I don't wana give anything away so heres the entire epiosde from YouTube,enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sRwnrqqMw8

ZariusTwo
10-07-2006, 01:29 AM
Old news.

And even a die hard PR fan like me hates this episode

Sage Ninja
10-07-2006, 11:35 AM
No offence by why'd you have to bring that up? You know how hard my poor brain has been trying to supress my memories of this unfortunate chapter in the TMNT book. Now I'm going to have to go back to getting shock therapy :-?

OA
10-07-2006, 11:40 AM
Yea, they're not too many Next Mutation fans around these parts (including me)...

Plus, i don't like PR anyways...

But still, as a fan of both, I can see how you got a pleasant surprise out of the ep, so thats cool...:)

Draconic
10-09-2006, 09:48 AM
as a fan of both, I can see how you got a pleasant surprise out of the ep, so thats cool...:)

Agreed. I can't watch YouTubes. Is this the one where the first go into space? I remember they did that the first day before they started TNM. I was really excited at the time, because that was before that turtle-wench ruined the series in ways that are pretty inconsolable.

Raphael_Fan
10-09-2006, 09:51 AM
Yea, they're not too many Next Mutation fans around these parts (including me)...

Plus, i don't like PR anyways...

But still, as a fan of both, I can see how you got a pleasant surprise out of the ep, so thats cool...:)


I have watched the power rangers they are very very good but have never seen this episode.I don't really like that season of turtles when Venus are with,It's not the same thing with her in it and I wonder what what have happend to Splinter,April and Casey??? Can I ask something were that episode turtles episode or was it power rangers:P:D Just wondering

Jon
10-09-2006, 11:54 AM
Can I ask something were that episode turtles episode or was it power rangers:P:D Just wondering


Was part of Power Rangers (the In Space series).

cowabunga14
10-09-2006, 04:36 PM
I watched this and I thought it was kinda cheesy. I don't remember seeing the In Space series before, so this was new to me.

ZariusTwo
10-09-2006, 05:16 PM
I watched this and I thought it was kinda cheesy. I don't remember seeing the In Space series before, so this was new to me.

It was not the best episode to represent that season

This is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBCErPCuQQs

Buslady
10-09-2006, 05:59 PM
that is the biggest pile of doo every put on film. the voices & characterizations are all wrong!
I can tolerate NM okay, its not great but I can handle it...TMNT/PR is pure crap. I think PRs have outlived their popularity as it is.

cormano
10-09-2006, 06:45 PM
thanks for the link… and to the people who don't want to see it, don't click the link.

OA
10-09-2006, 07:36 PM
I think PRs have outlived their popularity as it is.

I'm in you're boat there...but we seem to be in the minority as PR have many, many fans...

ZariusTwo
10-09-2006, 08:37 PM
And more often that not, PR having less popularity actually made the show better, as the writing got more serious

Raphael_Fan
10-10-2006, 01:09 PM
Was part of Power Rangers (the In Space series).


okey:D:D Is that the old or new power rangers?? I have seen them with those masks before is this one when they can turn in to robot animal???:D :D

Jon
10-10-2006, 02:14 PM
okey:D:D Is that the old or new power rangers?? I have seen them with those masks before is this one when they can turn in to robot animal???:D :D


Power Rangers In Space is the name of that part of the PR series. As for old/new, it's a bit of an old one.

So far there has been--

Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers
Power Rangers Zeo
Power Rangers Turbo
Power Rangers In Space
Power Rangers Lost Galaxy
Power Rangers Lightspeed Rescue
Power Rangers Time Force
Power Rangers Wild Force
Power Rangers Ninja Storm
Power Rangers Dino Thunder
Power Rangers SPD
Power Rangers Mystic Force

comet_an_me
10-10-2006, 02:27 PM
i used to love mighty morphin power rangers (especially Jason:D the orginal red ranger ), but the serises* after that i just lost intrest but i never really liked tmnt nm i dont why.. but it never put me off the 2k3 seris*

Jon
10-10-2006, 02:37 PM
i used to love mighty morphin power rangers (especially Jason:D the orginal red ranger ), but the serises* after that i just lost intrest but i never really liked tmnt nm i dont why.. but it never put me off the 2k3 seris*


I've watched it a while. Some of the series I've liked, others not so much (only watching it every-so-often). Mighty Morphin' was neat. Out of the more recent, Wild Force was a real pleaser. Also liked some of the other PR Series, as well -- but (as said) some were so-so.

ZariusTwo
10-10-2006, 04:17 PM
okey:D:D Is that the old or new power rangers?? I have seen them with those masks before is this one when they can turn in to robot animal???:D :D

If I could make a lick of that english slaying post, I could verify that they did not turn into any animal

Raphael_Fan
10-11-2006, 10:14 AM
Power Rangers In Space is the name of that part of the PR series. As for old/new, it's a bit of an old one.

So far there has been--

Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers
Power Rangers Zeo
Power Rangers Turbo
Power Rangers In Space
Power Rangers Lost Galaxy
Power Rangers Lightspeed Rescue
Power Rangers Time Force
Power Rangers Wild Force
Power Rangers Ninja Storm
Power Rangers Dino Thunder
Power Rangers SPD
Power Rangers Mystic Force

Then I have only seen Mighty Morphin Power Rangers:P :P I kinda off grown up with that power rangers

Raphael_Fan
10-11-2006, 10:17 AM
If I could make a lick of that english slaying post, I could verify that they did not turn into any animal


I know they didn't turn in to animals but they had a robot each that could turn in to a one big robot were all five could be in:D

Jon
10-11-2006, 10:53 AM
Then I have only seen Mighty Morphin Power Rangers:P :P I kinda off grown up with that power rangers


Well, Mighty Morphin' was the first 3 years of the show. Then typically did another name each year after that. With Mighty Morphin' through In Space being a continuing saga (as would have many of the previous group of Rangers still around - with changes in the roster made at various times).

Then Lost Galaxy onward have been self-contained series (with usually only cross-over episodes having past Rangers).

Sage Ninja
10-11-2006, 11:52 AM
I stopped being a rabid fan of MMPR when they got rid of Kimberly the pink ranger for that ugly blonde chick. I was so mad they tore apart my favorite coupling.

Kimberly and Tommy forever!!!!!!

Wildcat
10-11-2006, 06:57 PM
Wow glad to see this topic got alot of replies,I didn't know that the majority of TMNT fans didn't like "Next Mutation",I myself can not really judge it,while I did grow up with the original cartoon for some reason I never knew about "Next Mut." until a few years ago while surfing the net,so I went to my local video store and rented one episode(they carried really old cartoons and movies,as well as new movies too),the one I saw was alright,I would have liked to see the rest but I'm too upset about.

Like I said I am a PR fan too and my fave season as of late it "Dino Thunder"

ZariusTwo
10-11-2006, 09:40 PM
I stopped being a rabid fan of MMPR when they got rid of Kimberly the pink ranger for that ugly blonde chick.!

Amy Jo Johnson chose to leave the show herself, the producers had nothing to do with it.

VaughnMichael
10-11-2006, 09:54 PM
Amy Jo Johnson chose to leave the show herself, the producers had nothing to do with it.
wow I never knew that interesting and I see she's traded in her ranger outfit for that of some typical wb girl sitcom lol

tmnt_girl
10-12-2006, 10:39 AM
i'm not a big fan of the next mutation but i still like it anyway.:|

PizzaPower
10-13-2006, 05:31 PM
I loved this episode. I like Power Rangers until space, after space I did not watch it or care for it, my favorite PR series are Mighty Morphin and Space. "Shell Shocked" was an awesome ep. I loved it.

Wildcat
10-14-2006, 01:12 AM
I loved this episode. I like Power Rangers until space, after space I did not watch it or care for it, my favorite PR series are Mighty Morphin and Space. "Shell Shocked" was an awesome ep. I loved it.

Yeah it was good episode,"PR: Space" is pretty good,but my fave PR is Dino Thunder,and of course "Mighty Morphin" second cause I grew up with it.

Like I said I can't really say whether or not I like "Next Mutation" cause up til a few years ago I didn't know it exsisted,and Iv only seen one ep. that I rented on VHS just to see what it was like,from what I saw it was pretty good,I wounldn't ,mind seeing the rest but who knows where to find them....

Sewer Bull
10-14-2006, 03:42 AM
I ****ing hate their voices.

But the episode was fun to watch.

Buslady
10-14-2006, 10:13 AM
I know they didn't turn in to animals but they had a robot each that could turn in to a one big robot were all five could be in:D

wow how original...

:ohwell::ohwell::ohwell::|

like Voltron and every other super duper robot japanese cartoon.... :roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:

i remember working at TRU during the height of MMPR's popularity...we couldnt even SAY the words "power rangers" around parents or they'd start bugging you if we have em in stock...we referred to them as "PR". Everybody wanted the damn things for xmas...why i'll never know...I remember the TMNT toys back then were still flying off shelves too

ZariusTwo
10-14-2006, 11:26 AM
wow how original...

:ohwell::ohwell::ohwell::|

like Voltron and every other super duper robot japanese cartoon.... :roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:

...Voltron was actually a homage to the live-action Sentai format which implemented that first. Not the other way around

AquaParade
10-14-2006, 11:53 AM
What ever happened to Amy Jo Johnson?

ZariusTwo
10-14-2006, 12:02 PM
What ever happened to Amy Jo Johnson?

She starred in Felicity, then filmed a porno, now she's in a comedy, she's actually the highest profile star and going pretty strong.

Sage Ninja
10-14-2006, 12:48 PM
wow, I had no idea she did a porno :o I guess she wanted to lose the squeaky clean good girl image.

Does any body know what happened to the other MMPR actors after they left?

I think the second red ranger (the one that replaced Jason) voiced Vash the Stamped on the english dub of Trigun

ZariusTwo
10-14-2006, 12:50 PM
wow, I had no idea she did a porno :o I guess she wanted to lose the squeaky clean good girl image.

Does any body know what happened to the other MMPR actors after they left?

I think the second red ranger (the one that replaced Jason) voiced Vash the Stamped on the english dub of Trigun

Nope, thgat was JYB, Adam, the second Black Ranger who replaced Zach, and played the Green Zeo and Turbo Ranger

Sage Ninja
10-14-2006, 01:04 PM
Nope, thgat was JYB, Adam, the second Black Ranger who replaced Zach, and played the Green Zeo and Turbo Ranger

oh, yeah...now that you mention it, when i think of his voice it does sound like Vash.

wyze2099
10-14-2006, 01:29 PM
I remember seeing that when it came on TV. Definitely wasn't one of the Turtles' better moments; in fact it's quite possibly the worst television appearance they've ever made. But it's kind of an interesting example of how misguided a crossover can be.

Plotholes abound (why, of all possible creatures on Earth Astronema could have picked to throw against the Rangers, did she pick the Turtles? Simple: so the "NT: NM" show could be promoted), a really generic teamup premise is used (one group of good guys is hypnotized to fight another, and they manage to overcome that and gang up on the villains by the end), and completely different voice actors are used for the Turtles than in their own show (probably out of necessity, but did they honestly think no one would notice when the voices are so drastically different?). And somehow they managed to make the Power Rangers in that episode less juvenile than the Turtles, even though both shows were aimed at the same target audience.

So yeah, I didn't think fondly of that episode. The one part I liked was after the Turtles broke out of the mind control and chased stronema and her army off the ship. They started celebrating, "We've got our own spaceship!" before they realized that's not a good thing and they're about to die.

Separately, I'm not the hugest fan of the Power Rangers, but I do like the Japanese sentai shows from which the PR shows borrowed footage, and I definitely liked "Power Rangers In Space". Most PR seasons I really couldn't care less about, but "In Space" made me care when they revealed that Astronema was the Red Ranger's sister Karone who'd been raised by Ecliptor, one of the series' villains. Ecliptor himself was really fascinating in that he wasn't a one-dimensional heartless monster; he'd actually raised Karone like a daughter and cared for her more than he cared about being a ruthless villain. But he raised her to be one because that's all he knew, and his capacity to care about her put him at odds with both the Rangers and with the other villains in the series. The show ended up being a bizarre and compelling custody battle with Karone/Astronema, and every indication was that it wasn't going to end well for at least one party involved. Not only was it a gut-wrenching experience for Andros, but it was equally gut-wrenching for Ecliptor because he could end up losing his daughter.

I have such fond memories of that season that recently Jade Green and I started an RPG campaign over AIM that basically retold the "Shell Shocked" episode with the same Rangers and a more competent approach to the Turtles (more in keeping with the 2K3 cartoon). So far it's been a load of fun having Raphael actually comment that Astronema looks like a porn star, and coming up with more legit reasons why Astronema would bother with recruiting the Turtles in the first place.

Yeah, I lead a weird life.

Jade Green
10-14-2006, 01:57 PM
You lead a wierd life? Then mine's all out insane.

ZariusTwo
10-14-2006, 02:25 PM
ISeparately, I'm not the hugest fan of the Power Rangers, but I do like the Japanese sentai shows from which the PR shows borrowed footage, and I definitely liked "Power Rangers In Space". Most PR seasons I really couldn't care less about, but "In Space" made me care when they revealed that Astronema was the Red Ranger's sister Karone who'd been raised by Ecliptor, one of the series' villains. Ecliptor himself was really fascinating in that he wasn't a one-dimensional heartless monster; he'd actually raised Karone like a daughter and cared for her more than he cared about being a ruthless villain. But he raised her to be one because that's all he knew, and his capacity to care about her put him at odds with both the Rangers and with the other villains in the series. The show ended up being a bizarre and compelling custody battle with Karone/Astronema, and every indication was that it wasn't going to end well for at least one party involved. Not only was it a gut-wrenching experience for Andros, but it was equally gut-wrenching for Ecliptor because he could end up losing his daughter. e.

And all of this came from just using more originality and footage from a Sentai season that was based within a virtual reality programme and did'nt go into space at all. (Megaranger):)

Power Rangers now, especially under Bruce Kalish, rarley pulls off things thnat were found in Lost Galaxy, Time Force, Wild Force, Ninja Storm, and Dinothunder, most of it, like SPD and Mystic Force, are nothing short of translations of the Sentai counterparts. A good thing that the US is attempting a revival of the Masked Rider concept based on Kamen Rider Ryuki, PR fans need an alternative right now

BigApple3AM
10-14-2006, 06:06 PM
I loved the original Power Rangers, though I can totally understand where Buslady is coming from. My old boss worked at some wb store or something and they played that animaniacs sing the states song all day everyday so now he hates animaniacs. I guess it's the same thing for you, plus if you were working when it came out you're way out of their target age group.

She starred in Felicity, then filmed a porno, now she's in a comedy, she's actually the highest profile star and going pretty strong.

I think that's a lie, the porno thing. I heard that rumor from someone and it stuck with me until one day I was watching the original Power Rangers and I went to a PR forum and asked them if it was true and they practically shouted at me through the internet that she never did it.

I did some IMDB searching, none of these were asked by me so it must be a vicious rumor:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005057/board/flat/45972647

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005057/board/flat/47807328

ZariusTwo
10-14-2006, 06:25 PM
II think that's a lie, the porno thing.

...Well look out for a PM coming your way that blows that theory away...although she is'nt the only Ranger to get it on down and dirty. JDF guest starred on MTV's Undressed. Let's just say his Dragonzord wrecked havoc on Angel Grove harbour.

Jester
10-14-2006, 06:56 PM
To these last few post I must say..."Giggity Giggity Gigg-i-ty!"

http://www.familyguyfiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/quagmire1.gif

As PR and NT:TNM goes I lost interest when David Yost was plased on the back burner and was essentially working in the same capasity Alpha. :( Billy was always my favorite Ranger (as a kid....in retrospect Amy Jo is very pretty.)

ZariusTwo
10-14-2006, 08:46 PM
To these last few post I must say..."Giggity Giggity Gigg-i-ty!"

http://www.familyguyfiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/quagmire1.gif

As PR and NT:TNM goes I lost interest when David Yost was plased on the back burner and was essentially working in the same capasity Alpha. :( Billy was always my favorite Ranger (as a kid....in retrospect Amy Jo is very pretty.)

David Yost felt the same way, hence why he stormed off the set during production of "King For A Day Part Two" and never returned, which explained why the character was aged in his final two part story.

BigApple3AM
10-14-2006, 10:22 PM
I second Jester post.

And I'm still waiting for that pm zarius, waiting.... waiting... giggity.

PizzaPower
10-17-2006, 07:43 AM
Yeah it was good episode,"PR: Space" is pretty good,but my fave PR is Dino Thunder,and of course "Mighty Morphin" second cause I grew up with it.

Like I said I can't really say whether or not I like "Next Mutation" cause up til a few years ago I didn't know it exsisted,and Iv only seen one ep. that I rented on VHS just to see what it was like,from what I saw it was pretty good,I wounldn't ,mind seeing the rest but who knows where to find them....
nope, that VHS is 5 eps. The East Meets West Eps! yup. lol. It's really awesome, but they got a lot of scenes out too. :(

DonTurtelli
10-18-2006, 03:17 PM
dayum, crazy people! now Power Rangers AND TMNT look bad!

Drtooth
10-24-2006, 03:16 PM
Hmmm.... Porno Rangers... I'd like to see that... s'pecially the first season Pink and Yellow girls.... errr.... no... no... bad! Bad Dr.Tooth! I have a strict moral code.. http://www.solport.com/resources/humor/samtheeagle.jpg

That said, well... I was never crazy about PR anyway. I did watch it time to time during the first season or so... then the green ranger came and I gave up. I mean, the 1970's japanese action footage was pretty interresting, but those lame American co-production scenes with those Bullies.... that was rough. I would like to see some original japanese episodes though... early on in the series. Technically, I'm more of an Ultraman fan.

A TMNT crossover wouldn't get me to watch the show, nor would I care, because I HATE Next Mutation. It was so good the first episode... then Venus came and Splinter was trapped in the alternate dimention.... sigh... so much wasted potential.

ZariusTwo
10-24-2006, 10:04 PM
Hmmm.... Porno Rangers... I'd like to see that... s'pecially the first season Pink and Yellow girls.... errr.... no... no... bad! Bad Dr.Tooth! I have a strict moral code.. http://www.solport.com/resources/humor/samtheeagle.jpg

That said, well... I was never crazy about PR anyway. I did watch it time to time during the first season or so... then the green ranger came and I gave up. I mean, the 1970's japanese action footage was pretty interresting, but those lame American co-production scenes with those Bullies.... that was rough.

Ok, from one PR authority, I can assure you that Bulk and Skull evolved after the first season gradually, they became curious about the Ranger's identitys in season two, and they became cops by the third season. PR knew what to do when it came to characterisation.

...And the Japanease footage they took (Zyuranger) came from 1992, a YEAR before they began production.

VaughnMichael
10-25-2006, 01:16 AM
Ok, from one PR authority, I can assure you that Bulk and Skull evolved after the first season gradually, they became curious about the Ranger's identitys in season two, and they became cops by the third season. PR knew what to do when it came to characterisation.

...And the Japanease footage they took (Zyuranger) came from 1992, a YEAR before they began production.
yea I agree bulk and skul became like my favorite part of the show besides the lord zed and rita story lines. I mean hell I even liked the part where bulk and skull took care of rito and Goldar when they lost there minds.:lol:
Man the rangers used to be so great.
I wonder if they will ever try to redo it all like they have with turtles now that's a though.
I miss zed and everyone the show kinda flickerd out for me after that but I've watched up untill most of the disney stuff.

Sage Ninja
10-25-2006, 11:30 AM
Ok, from one PR authority, I can assure you that Bulk and Skull evolved after the first season gradually, they became curious about the Ranger's identitys in season two, and they became cops by the third season. PR knew what to do when it came to characterisation.

I agree Bulk and Skull did evolve over time. Which I appreciate because characters that stay the same all the time are boring. They also managed to keep the comical factor vibrant with them. I didn't really like when they became cops though. When they cut Bulks hair the way they did it made him look so much older!

Drtooth
10-26-2006, 04:29 PM
I will say the show is more fun with JUST monster battles. Nuff said.

ZariusTwo
10-27-2006, 01:11 AM
I will say the show is more fun with JUST monster battles. Nuff said.

No question, that's what the premise is. The show, however, is more fun when issues such as assisted suicide, kamkaze attacks, near muder, and racism, get involved

Mr._Mutant_Man
10-30-2006, 01:59 PM
When I look back I wish I hadn't abandoned TMNT fandom for the PR. Or if I had abandoned TMNT, it was more for Batman and the X-Men. In retrospect the X-Men were much cooler because they were a lot more interesting separately, where the PR just wore different colors. But most elementary schoolers seemed to get trapped in that PR web back in 1993.

For some reason the TMNT is still watchable as you get older, but sometimes I wonder how I could have liked PR way back when. The scenes where they are just 25 year olds playing high schoolers can get pretty atrocious, they should have just taken the original Japanese show and dubbed the whole thing over.

Spike Spiegel
10-30-2006, 03:44 PM
I thought the ORIGINAL Power Rangers series was great, and I loved the old TMNT. Haven't seen Next Mutation yet, and I don't plan on it anytime soon.

Jo Dawn
10-30-2006, 06:50 PM
David Yost felt the same way, hence why he stormed off the set during production of "King For A Day Part Two" and never returned, which explained why the character was aged in his final two part story.

I loved Billy... :( :cry:


But seriously, huh? Wow, he just left? I never knew that. Cool little tidbit to know.

ZariusTwo
10-30-2006, 07:15 PM
For some reason the TMNT is still watchable as you get older, but sometimes I wonder how I could have liked PR way back when. The scenes where they are just 25 year olds playing high schoolers can get pretty atrocious, they should have just taken the original Japanese show and dubbed the whole thing over.

Oh yes, let's take a show that has a completly different apporach to what level of violence it portrays to it's audience in Japan and dub it over for five year olds, I'm SURE they won't decapitate anyone or pretend to be a monster who rips people's clothes off.:roll:

Importing and dubbing kills originality, it's the reason stinking imported animes, good or bad, nearly killed the animation industry, one thing Saban knew back then was that PR had to use Japanese footage, but PR had to be original in it's own right, especially if it was going to last much longer than it's Japanease counterpart at the time (Zyuranger). PR is one of the best examples of not just sitting back and letting the Japanease material take something away from the writers. Indeed, this is what happened with Samnurai Pizza Cats, another import, it completly AVOIDED the source material and took the p*ss out of itself

Mr._Mutant_Man
10-30-2006, 10:25 PM
Oh yes, let's take a show that has a completly different apporach to what level of violence it portrays to it's audience in Japan and dub it over for five year olds, I'm SURE they won't decapitate anyone or pretend to be a monster who rips people's clothes off.:roll:

Importing and dubbing kills originality, it's the reason stinking imported animes, good or bad, nearly killed the animation industry, one thing Saban knew back then was that PR had to use Japanese footage, but PR had to be original in it's own right, especially if it was going to last much longer than it's Japanease counterpart at the time (Zyuranger). PR is one of the best examples of not just sitting back and letting the Japanease material take something away from the writers. Indeed, this is what happened with Samnurai Pizza Cats, another import, it completly AVOIDED the source material and took the p*ss out of itself

There were monsters that ripped people's clothes off in the original Sentai stuff?

I just figured the shows would have aged better if they didn't have segments that were like 90210 with a lobotomy. Don't get me wrong, giant robots rock and all but the stuff not involving violence was pretty darn bad. Batman: The Animated Series showed you could make intelligent children's programming.

Sage Ninja
10-31-2006, 02:12 PM
When I look back I wish I hadn't abandoned TMNT fandom for the PR. Or if I had abandoned TMNT, it was more for Batman and the X-Men. In retrospect the X-Men were much cooler because they were a lot more interesting separately, where the PR just wore different colors. But most elementary schoolers seemed to get trapped in that PR web back in 1993.

For some reason the TMNT is still watchable as you get older, but sometimes I wonder how I could have liked PR way back when. The scenes where they are just 25 year olds playing high schoolers can get pretty atrocious, they should have just taken the original Japanese show and dubbed the whole thing over.

heh, heh, I will admit that I left TMNT shortly after they got into the red sky stuff and became a full fledged PR fan. But during season seven of TMNT really kept me into the show even while I was watching the Power Rangers, and co-existed quite nicely as my favorite shows.

However I still think MMPR is still watchable even now that I am an adult.

CJStyles
11-17-2006, 12:19 AM
I watched that episode on youtube a while back and im about to start writing a TMNT Vs MMPR story something I hope will be an entertaining read for everyone. Its gonna be hard to not make it one sided for the Turtles being Iam a huge turtle fan(other wise I wouldnt be here). But basic scenerio is the starting point will be Jason and Zack will be at the "wrong place, wrong time" as they interfere with Raphael fighting off some thugs.

The story will also contain a little background on how the Rangers are able to use their powers after years of seperation and Zordon being dead etc etc

Mr._Mutant_Man
11-17-2006, 12:16 PM
^^ I vote "continuity waves" like the way they recently explained how Robin II came back from the dead (Superboy pounding the walls of the place he was in caused ripples in space and time or something like that).

Anyway, here is the old WWWF Grudge Match version of a PR/TMNT encounter. I think the right team won.

http://www.grudge-match.com/History/tmnt-mmpr.shtml

This has to be the best response, and I wish I had thought of it too:

"To figure out whol'll win, just look at the names. The power rangers are all named after colors and the turtles are all named after painters. What (rhetorically) do you think painters do with colors? They mop the canvas with them."

ZariusTwo
11-17-2006, 12:40 PM
The story will also contain a little background on how the Rangers are able to use their powers after years of seperation and Zordon being dead etc et.

Zordon had nothing to do with the Ranger's powers, the Morphin' Grid did, and that was'nt created by him. Zordon was just the longest running mentor in PR history, hardly anything else to do with their powers.

Whilst the Ranger's Ninja powers were destroyed (the coins for those being crushed by Rito) for certain, and Adam's Black Ranger coin was heavily damaged when he morphed with it during In Space, Jason and Zach's coins were duplicated during the "Power Transfer" that gave Rocky, Adam, and Aishia their powers.

Jason would use a fairly healthy red power coin in Forever Red, as demonstrated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-SMzzm41YI

CJStyles
11-17-2006, 03:54 PM
thanks for pointing that out bro.... and now I feel like a dumbass LOL

Shark
01-30-2007, 06:29 PM
Back then I was a MAJOR Power Rangers fan, and an even bigger TMNT fan. But that cross over sucked. The Power Rangers easily handed the Turtles their own shells. This episode made the Turtles look like idiots who can't fight. The makers of Power Rangers in Space was playing favortisim by makeing their Power Rangers look good, and the Turtles look bad. This episode is the very reason I stopped watching Power Rangers, as I lost alot of respect for them...that and they got rid of all the good characters like Tommy...

Astromina is I remember correctly was cute though.

EDIT: Oops, didn't mean to bring a topic back from the dead. I found this while I was 'Viewing Whose Online", and someone was viewing this topic, so I wanted to check this topic out and respond.

ZariusTwo
01-31-2007, 01:13 AM
Back then I was a MAJOR Power Rangers fan, and an even bigger TMNT fan. But that cross over sucked. The Power Rangers easily handed the Turtles their own shells. This episode made the Turtles look like idiots who can't fight. The makers of Power Rangers in Space was playing favortisim by makeing their Power Rangers look good, and the Turtles look bad. This episode is the very reason I stopped watching Power Rangers, as I lost alot of respect for them...that and they got rid of all the good characters like Tommy...

...But it was the Next Mutation, a series which PRIS arguably had far more intelligent episodes than put togehter. The series Pete himself disowns.

Shark
01-31-2007, 02:09 AM
I know, just saying I didn't like how they still favortised the Power Rangers to be smarter and better fighters than the turtles. The turtles were degraded enough because of TMNT:NM, and that episode only made it worse for them.

mikey2007
01-31-2007, 11:53 PM
I know, just saying I didn't like how they still favortised the Power Rangers to be smarter and better fighters than the turtles. The turtles were degraded enough because of TMNT:NM, and that episode only made it worse for them.

agreed, but they were hypnotized like the whole episode so it made them stupid:P lol and yeah, the whole TMNT:NM just dumbed them down, but yet i still bought the series on dvd and still watched them8) lol

sdp
02-01-2007, 12:43 AM
I'm a pretty big PR fan,

to clarify some confusion

Amy Jo Johnson (sadly:lol: ) was not on a porno.

Jason using the power coin is a debated plot hole from forever red.

No one really knows what the morphin grid is but it is implied and most people assume Zordon had something to do with it. Heck in a S2 episode Lord Zedd says the morphin grid is the constant balance between him and zordon. But like I said no one knows what exactly the 'morphin' grid is, its referenced various times through out other PR seasons. Rangers have lost their powers and got them back many times so them re-using them is no big deal.


as for the episode itself,
I'm a fan of PR and don't hat TNM but the episode is average but not bad,

sure a cliche plot but all PR team ups are like that, the point of team ups is cool fights from two teams teaming up and it does that right, as a fan of both its interesting to see them together, even if it has a rather childish TMNT.

ZariusTwo
02-01-2007, 04:39 AM
I know, just saying I didn't like how they still favortised the Power Rangers to be smarter and better fighters than the turtles. The turtles were degraded enough because of TMNT:NM, and that episode only made it worse for them.

Well it WAS their show you know...plus the whole "hypnotism" deal as noted explains any weaknesses they did have.:)

I would personally see the Rangers take out those Turtles anyday, NM was'nt TMNT to me in any way shape, form, or character.


sure a cliche plot but all PR team ups are like that, the point of team ups is cool fights from two teams teaming upT.

...Or tell a thought provoking epilouge like WF's did, or LG's, or IS, or Zeo's. Sadly, adding a brain cell to team ups is an art lost to battlizers, bad scripts, and large and expensive Kalishsplosions

Timothy
08-29-2007, 05:49 AM
I say the Turtales would kick there ass in a fight!
http://www.fanart-central.net/piccies/t/TimE/621447.jpg

Juniorx
08-29-2007, 06:23 AM
me i stood by the turtles no mater what happens to them from the beinging,forever im dead serious.i never gave them up on power rangers,batman,xmen and other crap.sorry i wasnt no fan for those rangers .but when i was praying to god to have the turtles take on them but when i saw them two eipsodes i was wrong.only thing was good about shell shock was the last fight where they team up.sorry if i offend anyboddy with your favortie show the rangers but i just don't like em.

odupianist
08-30-2007, 06:50 PM
Gotta give the MMPR credit though. The original five (then the Green Ranger) kicked a lot of ass. But I still stick by my green team.

Slash
08-31-2007, 05:34 AM
http://funnyimagedump.com/art/fullview/Mighty_Morphing_Power_Rangers.gif

Yeah, Go Go Go Power Rangers!

Look at how great they are...

Mr._Mutant_Man
09-06-2007, 01:40 AM
Gotta give the MMPR credit though. The original five (then the Green Ranger) kicked a lot of ass. But I still stick by my green team.

I still have some nostalgia for the first few seasons. It helps that the two pink rangers in MMPR were really cute.

I know it is because there is a new Sentai team every year, but it's tough to keep up with the Rangers. I stopped trying to follow it after In Space.

odupianist
09-07-2007, 07:45 AM
It helps that the two pink rangers in MMPR were really cute.

Let's face it, that's the only reason we watched MMPR: Amy Jo Johnson.

I know it is because there is a new Sentai team every year, but it's tough to keep up with the Rangers. I stopped trying to follow it after In Space.

That's what made the original MMPR so sweet. They went through power changes, but it was still the core team for like two-three seasons, not a new team every year. I think Galaxy was the last one I really watched and followed, only because it still had some PR in Space tie-ins.

Coola Yagami
09-07-2007, 01:23 PM
I thought the episode was an embarrassment to the turtles. I mean, first off, the outfits looked so lame, it looked like the TMNT were stoned half the time. They moved so cartoony and exxageratedly it looked like they were all on speed and too much caffeine.

The turtles all acted overly silly and kept bumping into each other as if they were the typical incompetent idiots the PR villians always have with them. Donatello got horribly owned by some random cannonfodder bad guy and gave off a lame one-liner to boot. I mean the only turtle fighting seriously all throughout was (surprise) Venus. And in the end, when the turtles were trying to convince the Rangers that were really good guys and all that, and Andros hesitated to shake Leo's hand... yeah... Leo looked so ****ed up and stoned... yeah, I'd hesitate to shake that hand too...


And why did Mike become Mr. Playa? And why did Raph sound like old-toon Mike?

Mr._Mutant_Man
09-07-2007, 03:28 PM
Let's face it, that's the only reason we watched MMPR: Amy Jo Johnson.


Yeah, the Pink Ranger might have been my first "celebrity" crush.

Plus, having that core group of Rangers tied in with MMPR overall did help in following it, even if the Saved by the Bell-like segments haven't aged well. I know the Sentai shows change every year, but it makes it hard to follow for me. It would be like having a brand new team of X-Men every year. And yes, the X-Men can be hard to follow, but at least at any one point when they were adding new members there were a few of the old ones hanging around too. Plus everyone seems to come rejoin the X-Men sooner or later, except Thunderbird. He doesn't seem to be coming back.:)

ZariusTwo
09-07-2007, 03:42 PM
That's what made the original MMPR so sweet. They went through power changes, but it was still the core team for like two-three seasons

Actually, the first three changed mid-way through the second

not a new team every year. I think Galaxy was the last one I really watched and followed, only because it still had some PR in Space tie-ins.

LG was the epilouge to In Space's unresolved plot lines, but the others are pretty good (sometimes) when you can get past loyalty to the older cast.

Plus, having that core group of Rangers tied in with MMPR overall did help in following it, even if the Saved by the Bell-like segments haven't aged well.

Who cares if they havent aged well? That all comes down to the fad of criticising older shows because people have been spoiled on series taking themselves too seriously, to the point noone can have fun

People cant follow the show because there too biased towards the originals, thats all it comes down to

...And...you ARE fully aware that Sentai changes story, cast, team, and UNIVERSE every year right? All the team-ups they have arent canoical, there just for the fans. PR seasons however DO share the same universe.

odupianist
09-07-2007, 10:48 PM
Actually, the first three changed mid-way through the second

Picky picky. Amy Jo Johnson and Austin St. John still showed up every so often, even in the second movie. I meant more along the lines that the powers/suits were the same for quite some time. Yes, I know, they got thunderzords and then the ninja powers but they were still the original outfitted rangers with Zordon and Alpha still around. Does that make sense at all?

shuriken
09-08-2007, 11:43 PM
Whatever. I like the MMPR theme song and it's one of my many guilty pleasure songs. Along with Eye of the Tiger and Girls just wanna have fun. But yeah, I liked the first two or three seasons. Then started watching again when they were in Space and Lost Galaxy was also very entertaining. After that I sort of lost interest.

Mr._Mutant_Man
09-09-2007, 02:40 AM
Who cares if they havent aged well? That all comes down to the fad of criticising older shows because people have been spoiled on series taking themselves too seriously, to the point noone can have fun

People cant follow the show because there too biased towards the originals, thats all it comes down to

...And...you ARE fully aware that Sentai changes story, cast, team, and UNIVERSE every year right? All the team-ups they have arent canoical, there just for the fans. PR seasons however DO share the same universe.

MMPR is still fun in the same way that Godzilla movies are, watching people in monster suits pretend to beat each other up. But in order to get to those parts you have to watch Saved By the Bell-like segments. Sure Kimberly is pretty, but typically that's the only highlight. Except when they showed them sparring or something.

Plus at the same time, the X-Men series was Fox Kid's other big show, and IMO there was more to that show overall than Power Rangers. There was more of a variety of villains, and the characters were more unique. Plus they even killed off an X-Man. Sure he was basically a redshirt, wearing a generic X-Men uniform and was pretty much made to die, but before the retcon they had killed him off. What happened when it was time to write off a ranger? They had to go to another country or something. Also, the word "destroyed" was always used, which IMO has less impact than "killed". Destroying is what you do to an inanimate object. Although X-Men eventually started getting watered down and replaced references to death with "destroyed". It wasn't as mature or well animated as the Batman series, but for a kid's show I think the writing was above average for X-Men. So if I'm critical of MMPR, it's that IMO there was a better kid's show at the time on Fox Kids.

I'm pretty sure I noted that Sentai changes every year. IMO that would be something hard to keep up with, but I guess it really doesn't matter. The average viewer will have eventually moved on, so it doesn't matter if the Rangers the kids are following today has any sort of link to the Rangers of yesterday. I'm sure other people have a hard time following the 1,000,000 mutants that have been on the X-Men since the sixties, but at least there was always some sort of link to the originals. But if the hardcore fans can keep track of the ranger incarnations, I guess more power to them (and that pun was totally intentional :)).