IGN's Top 25 animated shows in primetime.

[Cure]

Click here. (http://tv.ign.com/articles/736/736051p1.html)

What do you guys think?

[gobo]

How did The Simpsons get to be #1? Did IGN get craploads of money for that, or are they just ignoring the last several seasons? And South Park?? I guess "Top 25" actually means "Most Trendy 25"... :ohwell:

[Masked Ninja]

That list lost all my respect the instant I read the words "Spongebob Squarepants."

I know I may be in a minority that dislikes the show... but even if it's popular, being part of the best 25 animated shows ever? If that were true... then, logically, neither TMNT would be worth my time.

[Peanut]

It says in primetime, pal. Besides a couple specials, TMNT was never even in a primetime. Spongebob airs at primetime on a regular basis.

There are a bunch of crappy choices on that list, but whatever. Can't spell ignorant without IGN.

[gobo]

It says in primetime, pal.
Why so condescending? No one said TMNT should be in the list. But, to clear up something in my post, I do NOT think that The Simpsons shouldn't be on the list; I only think they shouldn't be #1.

[Spitfire]

They mentioned The Maxx they get SOME props for that atleast.

[KROW]

Wow. That list is sporadic as hell. What did they base it on, ratings or popularity? Johnny Quest is deemed a classic (with an exclamation point, no less), yet Spongebob is higher on the list?

And Ren & Stimpy get blackballed by Family Guy and Clone Wars?

Ugh.

[The Clerk]

hm...


I wish underGRADS was on there....

[The Stryker]

Hey!

I love spongebob, and for the whiners complaining that Simpsons is #1...what show besides possibly the Flintstones has had the same success as the Simpsons in primetime?

It sure as sh*t isn't Family Guy.

(My question is how the hell Invader Zim got on there.)

[Dr. Doom]

The Simpsons deserves to be there, even though I'd personally put it a lot lower on a list of my favorites. Just remember that it's like one of the longest running shows ever and that a good chunk of it's run was actually very entertaining and revolutionary. It paved the way for both Futurama and Family Guy (which some may not like, but you can't deny it's popularity) probably as well as shows like The Critic, King of the Hill and many other failed cartoons that the networks have churned out. There are those who would say they very much defined the entire genre of the prime time cartoon. I really can't imagine why anyone would be suprised that it's at the top of the list.

[Sewer Bull]

I'm with Stryker and Doom. The Simpsons might be now a far cry from their previous glory - but this show is simply a legend, a frigging milestone. And deserves some respect.

By contrast - "Star Wars: Clone Wars"? WTF? It should be replaced with "Batman: The Animated Series" (it was a prime-time series... shortly - but that counts!).

[Dr. Doom]

Batman definately deserves to be there, but it was only really primetime breifly, if I recall correctly. Maybe it didn't qualify. As for Clone Wars, I'm a big fan. Genndy Tartakovsky is a brilliant man of animation and I was glad that it was mentioned along with Samurai Jack.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Well, that was a giant load of horseshit. The whole list was made to pander to demographics (like usual, which is why Madden 2006 can come in the top ten/100 list every year), but honestly, this time it's blatant. Obviously Simpsons was going to win because it's Simpsons, but Flintstones before Ren and Simpy? Little Mermaid at 52 while that shitbag King of the Hill sits at 14 and Invader Zim at 21? Jesus, I hate shows like that, because they could have been done just as well in live action, or are just cheap crap. They don't use their medium at all.

Like I said, that list was pathetic.

[The Stryker]

What? The Flintstones deserves to be on that list far more than Ren and Stimpy. The Flinstones proved that Cartoons could work in primetime.

[ZariusTwo]

(My question is how the hell Invader Zim got on there.)


Zim is, unlike Spongebob, an original show for one thing, but as most know, it's not a prime time show.

Clone Wars is a f*cking farce, half of those episodes are'nt remotley over five minutes...

[Dr. Doom]

Quality, not quantity. They're not there to tell a story. They're there to look pretty. Which they do.

[DrSpengler]

I agreed with most of the selections, just not the ranking.

And that list needed 100% more Avatar.

[gobo]

Poopularity lists annoy me greatly.

[The Stryker]

So they should list a bunch of shows that no-one knows about and had no effect at all? Great plan boss.

[gobo]

If no one knows about the show, what would put them on the list? Great plan, bro. ;) Man, what's with all the hostility in this thread anyway? BTW, your sig is hilarious.

[Hannah]

I'm upset with the order, but I love tons of the shows on there.

(My question is how the hell Invader Zim got on there.)
My question is why it isn't in the top ten. Go diaf.

[Masked Ninja]

I wasn't implying TMNT should be on the list... I was just expressing disgust with some of their choices, is all. Spongebob makes my brain melt.

Hmm... was Gargoyles ever in primetime?

[gobo]

Spongebob makes my brain melt.
I'll thank you to stop reading my mind (especially before you get to the embarassing parts). Invasion of privacy is a serious offense, you know. :P

[Peanut]

Spongebob tends to pull off some funny, and often times very adult humor.

Just one of those shows that's hated because "WOMG! It's so stupppidddd! All of my other favourite shows that got cancelled because no one watched them were so much better!"

A lot of popular stuff gets that kind of abuse though, so it's not really a surprise. The popular thing these days is to hate popular things.

[DrSpengler]

Yeah, I also like Spongebob.

My favorite episode is the one where he and Mr. Krabs accidentilly poison the health inspector and then spend the rest of the episode trying to dispose of his corpse.

Good stuff.

Oh, and Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy ar the s***. Ernest Borgnine pwns joo.

[The Stryker]

Yeah, I also like Spongebob.

My favorite episode is the one where he and Mr. Krabs accidentilly poison the health inspector and then spend the rest of the episode trying to dispose of his corpse.

Good stuff.

Oh, and Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy ar the s***. Ernest Borgnine pwns joo.

Wha-wa EVIL? EEEVIL!!!!!

[ZariusTwo]

Just one of those shows that's hated because "WOMG! It's so stupppidddd! All of my other favourite shows that got cancelled because no one watched them were so much better!"

...Actually, it's hated because it's just using the same jokes Rocko's Modern Life was using years ago, but yeah, it really pulls off funny original material pretty well, definatly a reason for superior cartoons to be cancelled over it. Beutiful really.

The popular thing these days is to hate popular things.

Especially when the popular shows are crap.:lol:

Code: Lyoko is'nt safe either, Codename: Kids Next Door is better than that ackwardly animated Moonscope farce, can you beleive there better at animating Fantastic Four than that? Odd.

[Spitfire]

No Family Guy is awesome, look it even got it's own video game.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/xbox/data/932236.html

Only REALLY good shows get video games <_<

[KROW]

Weren't the Max Fleischer Superman cartoons aired at night?

[ThirdMarioBro]

These lists are all made to stir up conterversey for the sake of their ad revenue/total hits. Lets just consider ourselves lucky that we're not discussing it on IGN's boards (aka Purgatory).

IGN sure as hell isn't qualified to make a list like this and it be cosidered reference material. They pander to the Simpsons so much, I wonder if they're bought off.....oh wait, they're owned by Fox. Solves that.

[gobo]

Weren't the Max Fleischer Superman cartoons aired at night?
Well, if you factor in when primetime first became known as primetime...

How lame am I, considering that humorous? :embarass: Seriously, they aren't dealing with influential or historical animation, just today's most favored. Very little bias is apparent here in that The Maxx is the only one on the list I wouldn't expect everyone in America to recall right away. As an individualist, that was the one thing that made me very happy about this list.

[ZariusTwo]

These lists are all made to stir up conterversey for the sake of their ad revenue/total hits.

IGN are pretty human guys and some of their lists are good, they give animation films better dues than other telivision or internet based lists (for example, Channel 4's "greatest cartoons ever" listed "Legend of the Overfiend" above Bambi. That's right, a HENTAI movie)

[Dr. Doom]

Sweet. pr0n > Bambi

[Wes]

So basically they put close to every animated primetime show that they knew of on this list? Honestly, I couldn't come up with a list of 25 primetime cartoons off the top of my head -- period -- let alone a top 25 list.

Therefore, I think this list is kinda pointless. :ohwell:

[Deathknight]

I really want to know what King of the Hill is doing on that list. Also, how did South Park beat Beavis and Butthead?

[GK Punk]

Trust me, King of the Hill is hillarious if you've lived in Texas.

[Sewer Bull]

Hey, King of the Hill is hilarious for me and I've never been to Texas. I think it's good and deserves its place on the list.

And I find South Park more creative and better written than B&B.

[GK Punk]

I thought it was funny before living in Texas, but after living there it's got to be one of the most hilarious shows I've ever seen. So many in jokes.

(The Luanne Platter is a meal at Luby's for example. She was named after a dinner special :lol: )

[Deathknight]

Yeah must be that I've never been to Texas or something because I don't find it funny at all. Kind of like how Megas XLR is hilarious if you're from Jersey like I am.

[Drtooth]

Mmmmhhh.... I feel mixed about this.

First of all... Am I the ONLY one P'O'd that Bullwinkle was never listed? But then again, I can't re,member if it quailfied for Prime time or Daytime. I love the Flintstones with a passion, but Bullwinkle totally blew them away. I feel Simpsons took MORE cues from that than the Flintstones, which it is constantly akinned to.

The other things that bug me... do Aqua teen et al AS shows even COUNT as Prime time? I thought prime time was like 6 or 7-midnight... and those shows all air at earliest 1 am...

And to save this from being a flame war, of COURSE Simpsons would be #1. I mean, we can all argue about how suck arse it has become, and how it's just not as good as Family Guy or South Park or something. It lasted a long time on Television, first of all. Scooby Doo is listed in many top cartoon lists, but (and I LOVE Scooby) it's not too spectacular a TV show to begin with. It lasted for years in some form or another since the late 60's, so basically it's seen as a great show for, if no other reason, it's accomplishments.

Secondly (not pulling the "Everything in prime time is a Simpsons ripoff" bandwaggon, here) more than HALF of these shows wouldn't exist without the Simpsons paving the way for prime time adult entertainement in the 80's/90's Flintstones and Bullwinkle paved that way for the Simpsons, but they brought the movement back.

But I do think that one was right, saying this was the "Trendy" 25. I never cared for Aeon Flux.... But it's still better than TV Guide's top 50 from years ago.... I agreed with most of them, but Pikachu and Wonder Woman on the list? If it came out a year later, Yugiph would be in Pikachu's spot. And Wonderwoman only appeared in SUperfriends before then.

[Dr. Doom]

Adult Swim is almost over by midnight over here. It starts at 9:30 on weekdays.

[Drtooth]

Yeah... but that's pretty much a ime zone thing, then... so basically they only squeak by on a technicality.