Michael Richards (kramer) comedy club incident

[LogicDonny]

If you heard of Micheal Richards incident at the comedy club where he was heckled and he was yelling, I found the video on youtube where he was doing it.

Warning: This video will contain course langage and stupidity.. Viewers discrection is advise..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sEUIZsmTOE

Also, i found the video from a late night show where he aplogizes..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3l-gRHjUNk


This is wrong. Considering I had no idea where to put this topic, I put it in tv cuz he was on tv lol.

[Peanut]

Jesus. Out of control! I still lol'd though. I liked how the guy he was arguing with was saying it was all un-called for, while spouting racial comments of his own. Quite funny.

[Jester]

Yeah, but to be honest how many white people are overly offended by the phrases "cracker" or "honky". You can't honestly say those words have the same bite as the one Richards used.

[Peanut]

Why does it matter? It's a racial slur, isn't it? As far as I'm concerned, the words he were using are used so much in common speech these days that it hardly constitutes as a huge racial remark anymore.

[Jester]

I think Patrice O'Neil said the same thing, or at least something similar...I'm really not sure how I feel. If the situation had been reversed where a black comic lost it and hurled racial slurs at a pair of white hecklers, would it be news?

[ThirdMarioBro]

He's being attacked because he picked out a person in particular and went to town. George Carlin has said sh*t that beats that little tantrum by a factor of ten, but nobody cares because he's always referring to people in general.

[LogicDonny]

Remember when they mention how Richards never been in any movies but Seinfeld.

Well they are wrong lol.

1980 Fridays TV Series
1982 Faerie Tale Theatre (TV) .... King Geoffrey, Vince
1982 Young Doctors in Love .... Malamud Callahan
1983 Herndon TV Series .... Dr. Herndon P. Stool
1984 The House of God .... Dr. Pinkus
1985 Transylvania 6-5000 .... Fejos
1986 Whoops Apocalypse .... Lacrobat
1986 Fresno (mini) TV Series .... 2nd Henchman
1987 Jonathan Winters: On the Ledge
1989 UHF .... Stanley Spadowski
1989 Seinfeld (TV) .... Cosmo Kramer
1990 Problem Child .... Martin Beck
1993 Coneheads .... Motel Clerk
1993 So I Married an Axe Murderer .... Newspaper reporter
1994 Airheads .... Doug Beech
1995 Unstrung Heroes .... Danny Lidz
1996 Ellen's Energy Adventure (uncredited) .... Caveman discovering fire
1996 London Suite (TV) .... Mark Ferris
1997 Redux Riding Hood (voice) .... The Wolf
1997 Trial and Error .... Richard 'Ricky' Rietti
2000 The Michael Richards Show TV Series .... Vic Nardozza
2000 David Copperfield (TV) .... Mr. Wilkins Micawber
2008 Cat Tale (pre-production) (voice) .... Ace

If you want to learn more about him, click on the link to teh page. It mentions the story of his outburst and etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Richards

[ZariusTwo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjqCmtKHfR4

:lol:

[Jo Dawn]

I think... Ok, how to put this...

Yes, the words he used are more commonly heard in today's society. But, it isn't so much about the word he used as much as HOW he used it. He used it in the most hurtful and vile way that he could. He meant for it to hurt.

I think it's not so much about WHAT the words are that we use towards people, as much as HOW we use words towards people.

Um, does that make sense to anyone but me? Heh. I could try and explain better.

[Barkworm]

There goes a childhood hero. What a piece of sh*t...

[LogicDonny]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjqCmtKHfR4

:lol:

Now that was funny how seinfeld theme is played.. Nicely good linky.

I love him as Kramer but I don't think it will change when I watch Seinfeld.. Will it?

[Jester]

I dunna...I own and love UHF. (I need to replace it because it's pretty scratched up) I wonder what Al thinks of his pal Stanley Spadowski's rant.

[DrSpengler]

Michael Richards needs to drink FROM THE FIRE HOSE!!!

[Jester]

:P
He certainly dared to be stupid.

[OA]

Is there a double standard when it comes to racial slurs when a white person says something vs a black person? Absolutely. Is that right? Probably not. Is it right that some black people use that word so freely yet still react when a white person does? Again, probably not. But the history of that word in regards to white people using it is so vile and disgusting that I can think of no other word that could be worse for a white person to say, at least here in America. If you are white, you should not ever, ever use that word. Simple as that. Again, there is a double standard. But right or wrong, thats the way it is. In almost every circumstance if you use that word, and esp. in the way he used it, you are a racist. So IMO, kramer is a racist. And its disgusting....

[LogicDonny]

you know I hear that word Micheal used at his anger on unreal tounrment 2004 by a few guys and I wonder why people even use the word? It's wrong amd immoral.

[Mecha Cow]

It's almost seems as if this was part of his act and he was trying (and failing miserably) to be funny. Either way, it's completely uncalled for. What the hell, Kramer.

And I wanted to say that someone who uses the N-word isn't neccesarily a racist, but could just be looking for something to hurt another person with (which still doesn't justify it at all), but no, after watching this video he does come off as a racist piece of sh*t.

Oh well, I don't care about him enough to let this affect my enjoyment of Seinfeld.

[DrSpengler]

Video of Kramer's apology (this is very racist of me O NOES).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjnm8fzRExc&eurl=

[Ecto Jedi]

you know I hear that word Micheal used at his anger on unreal tounrment 2004 by a few guys and I wonder why people even use the word? It's wrong amd immoral.

We should really try to avoid letting an arrangement of letters and a series of grunting noises produced by our vocal chords get us so enflammed and upset. Really, people get shot and killed over the use of this word. And what for? It only has as much meaning or significance as we give to it. All we're doing by stigmatizing the use of this word is giving it more and more power...

[Barkworm]

I don't even think he's racist but for someone who performs on stage every day flipping out like that is completely pathetic.

[Anarchistguy]

I don't even think he's racist but for someone who performs on stage every day flipping out like that is completely pathetic.
That's pretty much exactly what I think of the whole thing.

It's almost seems as if this was part of his act and he was trying (and failing miserably) to be funny. Either way, it's completely uncalled for. What the hell, Kramer.

Oh well, I don't care about him enough to let this affect my enjoyment of Seinfeld.

Hey, Kramer is a fictional character. He had nothing to do with this. MICHAEL RICHARDS is the one who got out of line.

[Mecha Cow]

Hey, Kramer is a fictional character. He had nothing to do with this. MICHAEL RICHARDS is the one who got out of line.
But they look exactly the same, how do you explain that?

[Toonami Tom]

There's no doubt that it was very racist and wrong what Richards said. He should have used better judgement. I think it's time for the news media to stop talking about this though. There's only so much that can be said about this.

I am also not going to let this affect my enjoyment of Seinfeld.

[Anarchistguy]

But they look exactly the same, how do you explain that?

I got identical twin sisters who look exactly the same but their not the same person :P

No, seriously, this is REAL life, Kramer doesn't exist in real life (Duh).

[Drtooth]

ALl I can say is first I was bitterly depressed when I heard this. Then I got angry at BOTH Mr. Richards and those hecklers. Now, they said they were celebrating their friend's birthday. Given there age, they must've been drunk or unruly for any other reason. Now, Mikey was nothing more than P'o'D to a major extreme and said that ONLY to get them angry. Should he have said that? NO! Could he have avoided it? Yes. But it happened. He appologized up and down Hollywood. Was it forced, did he feel guilty? I dunno. But then the hecklers demanding money and getting Gloria Allred was REALLY uncalled for. I bet they use the N-Word to each other as a term of endearment. You know what I mean.

Now, since it's a celebrity, we'll trot out the pathetic, "Racism is still alive and well" crap. It is? I didn't notice! I kinda forgot until a B-list celebrity with anger management issues trying to get his life back on track uttered the N word. And once again, it's only white people that are racist! WOW! I'm shocked. I guess what's happening in Israel is a fraternity prank gone too far.

And do you know what the worst part is? Now, they're blaming Seinfeld! They say because the show has no regular black people in it, it's racist! I mean, I had a feeling it was coming. But, seriously... is there anyway to intergrate a non-white into a white sitcom without said character being either a Token with no personality or a stereotype with too much personality?

I don't want to get the "You're a bitter cynic" responses, but EVERYONE is a little bit racist. You either exclude them or single them out by including them. It's not a black and white issue (no pun intended) but all shades of grey! How can you make someone feel welcome without feeling singled out? That's the problem everyone has to face. Not just whites!

BTW, should it bother me that I'm white and the term "Cracker" doesn't bother me one bit?

[Draconic]

"******" is wrong, and "Cracker" is wrong.

Am I going to follow along with this bandwagon and say that the Michael is the only one at fault? I'm not afraid to say it: They were both out of line. I've got my apology from Michael Richards, but those asshole hecklers haven't said anything to apologize yet.


Edit:
Hey, why is "******" censored while "cracker" isn't?

[OA]

Look, stand up comedy is very personal and interactive...its not like a play or even a concert...its you up on an island trying to make people laugh...and sometimes, you're just not funny...comedians get heckled ALL THE TIME...top it off with him being a celebrity, im sure he hears all kinda of crap all the time...so were the hecklers wrong? maybe, but when a comedian sux, he's gonna hear it - thats the nature of the biz...

He's a racist, its as simple as that..

And the N-word is cencorsed and not cracker, whitey, spic, etc. because of how utterly attrocious and despicable a word it is when it comes from a white man when viewed in regards to history (as it always is when a white man says it)....a white man saying N is never a good thing; its never used endearingly....double standard becuase black people use it? yep, but thats how it is....there is just a an unsaid "understanding" that black people can use it and white people can't...white people "just know" that they shouldn't be thinking about the N word, much less speaking it out loud, because they will be seen as a racist...im not saying thats right, its just how it is here in America, with no forseeable change in sight...

[Spitfire]

Racism is funny, in my opinion if your offended by things like this your not only extremely immature but you fit that stereotype. Everyone I have ever seen who is offended by racial slurs totally fits the stereotype of what that word means.

You call someone a racial slur where I work we just laugh. We make jokes all the time like that. It's all in good fun. They call me a Nazi sometimes just because I'm white. Do I fly off the handle and go whine about it? No I chuckle. We have a black guy who people always make slave jokes about. And sometimes when he's told to do something he says "Yes Massa!" haha funny stuff.

Racism is immature and a part of life. Any sense able adult would either laugh at it in good humor or if it was serious*Like this case* Ignore it and not make a public ordeal about it.

[Peanut]

Racism is funny, in my opinion if your offended by things like this your not only extremely immature but you fit that stereotype. Everyone I have ever seen who is offended by racial slurs totally fits the stereotype of what that word means.

LOL! WTF!?!

[Toonami Tom]

:D Whoa! Check this out:
*Warning: Strong Language*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRpKj5zXtes

[Krang]

Hey, why is "******" censored while "cracker" isn't?
Ever heard of these (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_%28food%29)? :P Words that have more than one common meaning cannot be filtered, because it's impossible for the forum software to know in which context they are being used. That doesn't mean that those words are any less discouraged, though.

[Katie]

Racism is funny, in my opinion if your offended by things like this your not only extremely immature but you fit that stereotype. Everyone I have ever seen who is offended by racial slurs totally fits the stereotype of what that word means.

But see, the problem happens when people BELIEVE those stereotypes and use those words to hurt people. People that use racial slurs do so to make themselves feel superior.

I'm half white and half Choctaw indian. You think I like it and can just laugh it off when someone asks me where my casino is...or tells me to get back on the reservation? It makes me mad, first...then I feel sad for the ignorance that person shows.

And truthfully, some Choctaw I interact with are just as bad. They have their own words for people like me that are mixed.

People naturally fear things that are different or out of their comfort zone. As long as there are peopl, there will be problems like this.

[Draconic]

"Honky" and "whitey" are not censored, but I haven't heard any other uses of those words.

Of all of the racial slurs out there, there is only that one that is censored in most cases. The double standard isn't that white people can't use words while black people can, the double-standard is that it is culturally acceptable for a black person to be racist, and a white person will get dragged through the mud for it. Sounds like somebody has their cake, and is eating it too.

And I agree: No forseeable change in sight, because no white people are saying anything about it. All racial slurs are wrong, it's time to stop treating the issue with baby-gloves. Black people should not be allowed special privelages and rights because their ancestors were mistreated. That's like me saying to you,

"Your great-grandfather was beaten to death, that's why now it's acceptable for you to be mean and offensive to everybody, dispite the fact that you were never acutally harmed. It's our little way of saying 'Sorry'."

I am sure that there are plenty of people that will agree with me, including plenty of black people, when I say "Racism is racism, and racism is wrong."

[Katie]

it's not just that a person's ANCESTORS were mistreated....that is still alive and well today. People do it unconsciously and I think white people in particular find it easy to not see what is happening and assume things are ok because it is easy to ignore it....or become desensitized because you only see it on TV or in the movies. In actuality...out of suburbia...people deal with these things daily. I know I do.

I admit, I am in a unique position...if you were to see me in real life, you might see me and think white...or hispanic (I get that alot because most people do not think native american) I get some flack from white people and from other communities as well.

yeah it's wrong....but like i said before...as long as people fear differences...whether consciously or unconsciously, society has a problem.

[Drtooth]

Ever heard of these (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_%28food%29)? :P Words that have more than one common meaning cannot be filtered, because it's impossible for the forum software to know in which context they are being used.

Funny thing. I actually have that problem on another forum. You see, as we all know there is a word/name that can mean a shortened version of Richard or can be used as a derrogatory term for a male's anatomy. You know what it is, so I want get into it too much. Because of the fear of using the negative word, it's been censored, so there's trouble trying to say that word as someone's name.

Am I going to follow along with this bandwagon and say that the Michael is the only one at fault? I'm not afraid to say it: They were both out of line. I've got my apology from Michael Richards, but those asshole hecklers haven't said anything to apologize yet.

Racism is immature and a part of life. Any sense able adult would either laugh at it in good humor or if it was serious*Like this case* Ignore it and not make a public ordeal about it.

That's what I've been trying to say. They're both wrong. And as it turns out, Mikey has a history of bad temper as of late. But while him saying what he said wasn't justifyable, it doesn't make him the next Hitler either. I agree it's a double standard. If said comedian were black and said "Cracker" or something to one of his hecklers, he'da gotten a TV show by now. I mean, I LOVE Chris Rock and all, and he has talent when he does this, since he pokes fun at all sides. I'm talking someone really untallented.

I mean, if you blatantly say that to someone to be offensive, and you were taught to hate people of different colors from your old man, who passed down his hatrid from the Civil war (mainly because they had to pick their own damn cotton), that's racism.

Problem is, a lot of people become racists because something deeply wrong happened in their lives, and they blame other races for their problems.

Look at the Mexican xenophobia that Outsourcing and that whole "illegal Immagrant" debacle produced. Greedy companies want to go around the basic rights of laborors and bus in some people and basically use them as slaves, and all the sudden, it's all the Mexicans' fault. No! It's the greedy industrialites. But then, somehow people think that if they feel what big business is doing is wrong, that's communism. So, basically the blame gets shifted to the hard working people who want to be citizens, but have a hard time.

And all the while, people are whining about Mikey being racist because:


He said the N-word a few times out of blind rage because he wanted Hecklers to shut up.
He may or may not have appeared in black face in a forgotten movie no one cared about until now.
There were no Black people on Seinfeld, dispite the fact that when there were, the actually interacted with Kramer.
And he may or maynot have said something Anti-Semetic, as implied by someone getting on the "Let's get free money" band wagon, who mysteriously didn't report it until he found there was money to be had. Also, the dude DID work for Seinfeld, who WAS Jewish!


But as long as a celebrity was caught saying it, it's the worst thing in the entire world that ever happened. WOW! Never mind the KKK or the Black Panthers, or any other hatemongering organization. A B-List celebrity who hasn't worked since 2001 who's trying to get his life back together said it out of anger.

We DEMAND an appology! Wait, he appologized a million times already, and he actually feels horrible? Not good enough. I'm sure someone who hasn't worked in forever has a crap load of money we can take. We actually weren't REALLY offended, but whatever gets us 15 minutes of fame, right?

[Draconic]

If I went to a Chris Rock show, and I acted offended by his failed jokes, would he appologize on national TV for it?

I'd like to quote Dennis Miller when I say:

And yet this is what it's come to.This is what it's come to in contemporary America. Everybody's broken off into these petulant little Travis Bickle tribes. Everybody walks the perimeter of their own damaged esteem ever-vigilant against an incursion by They, Them. The Other Guys. Everybody's touchy and everybody's encouraged to be touchy, everybody that is . . . except me: the White Anglo-Saxon male. I'm everybody's asshole. Black people think I'm oppressive and physically deficient. Women think I'm oafish and horny. Gay people think I'm overly macho and latently homosexual. And Asians think I'm lazy and stupid. Hey, you think you've got an ax to grind? I'm [frickin'] Paul Bunyan over here, okay, folks?

[Dr. Doom]

I don't think any white person has even been truly offended by words like "cracker", "honkey", or "whitey".

[Mecha Cow]

Dude, you can't say 'white'.

'European American'.

[Katie]

Dude, you can't say 'white'.

'European American'.

Pigment challenged :P

[Spike Spiegel]

Yeah, Richards should have apologized, but at the same time they should not have been heckling. You don't pay to see an act so that you can heckle. You pay to see the show. They should have shown him more respect than that.

[Dr. Doom]

Dude, you can't say 'white'.

'European American'.

Hush up, whitey.

-=Be's a whitey also so is allowed to say it=-

[OA]

Yeah, Richards should have apologized, but at the same time they should not have been heckling. You don't pay to see an act so that you can heckle. You pay to see the show. They should have shown him more respect than that.

Eh...stand up comedy is a VERY interactive media...its not like a play or even a concert...comedians get heckeled ALL the time...when you suck, they often let you know; the same time, when you're good, you hear it too...im sure this isnt the first time he's been heckled and it definately won't be the last...you learn to deal with it, and often throw it back at the heckler(s), usually with much humor....in this case, he let his racist side out...its not like he said Nword accidentally...he said it over , over, and over again...he's a racist...and its disgusting...

[Katie]

Exactly. He said it over and over and over. It wasn't like a one time slip. (which is still WRONG in my opinion)

[Spitfire]

But see, the problem happens when people BELIEVE those stereotypes and use those words to hurt people. People that use racial slurs do so to make themselves feel superior.

I'm half white and half Choctaw indian. You think I like it and can just laugh it off when someone asks me where my casino is...or tells me to get back on the reservation? It makes me mad, first...then I feel sad for the ignorance that person shows.

And truthfully, some Choctaw I interact with are just as bad. They have their own words for people like me that are mixed.

People naturally fear things that are different or out of their comfort zone. As long as there are peopl, there will be problems like this.

To me the best way to stick it to that person is not to get offended, or to find a cleaver way to throw it back at them. You get upset they get what they want out of it. You don't they will stop doing it.

Adults can be just like 5 year olds sometimes. Humans follow simple patterns. A bully will pick on someone until that someone shows their fangs.

[Dr. Doom]

I really just skimmed through Spitfire's post, but I agree. You should throw a cleaver at them.

[The Stryker]

Hey, why is "******" censored while "cracker" isn't?


Because Crackers are a delicious salty treat

[Peanut]

What I don't understand about racisim is how it's the worst thing in the world when aimed at other races, but if it's someone saying, "Yeah, white folk are redneck hicks who sleep with their sisters." no one cares. Racisim seems to be alright if it's against white people. Just like being sexist is wrong, unless it's a man being discriminated against. That's completely and utterly backwards!

[VaughnMichael]

Yeah, Richards should have apologized, but at the same time they should not have been heckling. You don't pay to see an act so that you can heckle. You pay to see the show. They should have shown him more respect than that.
haha yes you do if the two old guys from the muppet show never showed up fozzie bear would never have been funny :P
Acts needs hecklers it keeps them on their toes.
I think just about everyone at one point has been racist weither they would like to think they have been or not.
We all make fun of other people at times be it in school, work, or driving in our car.
And btw people don't call white people those names anymore to be offensive they call us red necks. I hate being called that because I live in america I'm hardly white trash or a red neck.:roll:
What I don't understand about racisim is how it's the worst thing in the world when aimed at other races, but if it's someone saying, "Yeah, white folk are redneck hicks who sleep with their sisters." no one cares. Racisim seems to be alright if it's against white people. Just like being sexist is wrong, unless it's a man being discriminated against. That's completely and utterly backwards!
I agree 100% and don't get me started on how the USA acts towards gay people for the most part...I mean really don't you think if I really could be with a woman I would it's not like I can go kiss my boy friend in the middle of target and be annoying like every other straight couple when I'm trying to check out some new ninja turtle figures haha:roll:

[Jester]

Anyone catch the victim on the Sean Hannity radio show yesterday? He and his lawyer were asked questions like "What is a fair penalty for Richards?" and "If Michael Richards decided to sit down man to man and apologise, with out the "retired judge" (which they brought up quite a bit as the "be-all-end-all" to this farce. Like he could magically make things better.) would that be acceptable?" And it all came back to that "retired judge" "what ever He thinks is fair" "Not with out Him." What does he have to do with this?

[Mecha Cow]

His lawyer? He is actually going to sue? What Kramer did was inexcusable, but what the hell will a lawsuit do? Grow up and move on already. I seriously can't stand this attitude.

Oh right, money.

[Drtooth]

Law suits are a riot. Ever since the McDonald's coffee incident, people have been pulling law suits out of their butts just to get money from anyone who has it. I mean, I can agree with the tobaccco ones, but we have obese morons who buy the largest thing on a fast food menu, super size it, and do that EVERY single day, and sue the fast food company for making them obese blobs. If there's money to be got, then they get while the getting is good.

That's clearly the case here. Had it been a small time comedian, and the same thing happened, hell, no one would even care about who said what. But since it's a celebrity, not only does the media have to blow it out of proportion, but then the "Victims" who got themselves into that situation demand money for provoking something that could have been averted.

It's bully culture. I mean, like those school shootings. they shouldn't have done it, and it was dispicable, but they were provoked. Believe me. I know what bullies are like. Either you get in trouble for going over the edge trying to stand up for yourself, or you just get relentlessly tourmented. Once again, what Kramer diod was wrong, but then again, we don't know what comments the Hecklers threw out.

[obligatory Seinfeld Joke] Who wants to bet he's going to get Jackie Childs as his lawyers [/obligatory Seinfeld joke]

[Krang]

"Honky" and "whitey" are not censored, but I haven't heard any other uses of those words.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Honky_Tonk_Man

All joking aside, the fact of the matter is that the word filter is adjusted only when needed, and to my knowledge, those words have never been used in a hateful manner on these forums. I can't say the same about the n-word considering what some of the now-banned members used to say for shock value. Now, I could add every single word that could possibly be used in a racial manner to the filter, but if those words are very unlikely to be used that way, there's no point in bloating the database with them, which only leads to forum slowdown and accidental filtering like Drtooth mentioned.

All racial slurs are wrong
I agree, and racial slurs will not be tolerated here no matter which race they're aimed at, regardless of whether or not they are filtered. The word filter is not a self-contained list of what's not acceptable to say here, so we expect members to use common sense in cases where something isn't or can't be filtered. If they don't, well, that's what warnings and bans are for.

Anyway, this is getting off-topic, so if you have any further comments about the word filter, please post them in the Questions/Comments/Suggestions section or PM me.

[Sewer Bull]

I don't think any white person has even been truly offended by words like "cracker", "honkey", or "whitey".

Because it's better to insult them by directly picking on their ethnicity or national origins, you Caucasian.

[Jester]

How dare you Robbie-san!!*storms off in a huff*

But seriously, how many white people take the "slurs" used against them seriously? Honky (tonk) and Cracker (I like Clubs by Keebler) and Whitey are hardly offencive to me...but I may be alone. Those words don't have the venom behind them that the word Kramer used does. Did he use the most extreme word he could think of just to get a rise out of the hecklers, prehaps. Does that make it right, no. But I hardly think that them calling him a cracker has even half the bite of the word he used.

[Dr. Doom]

Because it's better to insult them by directly picking on their ethnicity or national origins, you Caucasian.

I'd be careful about dragging ethnicity into this any further on your part, what with the myriad of jokes at the expense of you and your countrymen.

[Sewer Bull]

I'd be careful about dragging ethnicity into this any further on your part, what with the myriad of jokes at the expense of you and your countrymen.

Nonsense, I find them highly amusing and very creative, that's why I don't get offended by them at all.

Besides, most of them turned out to "French jokes" lately.

[Drtooth]

Besides, most of them turned out to "French jokes" lately.


Ah yes. The dreaded "Let's hate French people on the whole, becazuse they didn't agree with our politics vis a vis Iraq" phase of 2003. Now, I LOVE the French Taunter scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, and I do occasionally make French jokes now and again (the bad accent thing talking about cheese and how "All ze American are Fat Pigs!"). But how the shell was that any different than racism? I mean, remember since 9/11 people have been beaten up viciously for having dark skin, linking dark skin to being Muslim, and Muslims being terrorists. Now, our celebrity junk culture has shown how hypocritical everyone has become. Because a celebrity does something bad, that all the sudden is the ONLY example of it happening. Kramer said the n-bomb. Well, I'm sure somewhere the KKK are relieved that they are no longer the poster people for hatrid, and now everyone can forget about them. kramer said a slur. Surely that's much worse than years and years of bloodthirsty cruelty.

But then again, maybe we have a mental typo. This isn't a race issue, more of a RAGEissue. Apparently, Mr. Richards has had a recient history of blind rage. Now, I think we should be more worried about the rage, and less about the race. When somoen is blindly fuerious, they do horrible things and say horrible things. People make death threats when they are enraged. And a death threat trumps any slur, no matter what. And it doesn't stop at threats either. I mean, the violence. The blind rage fueled violence. The angry parents killing each other at their children's hockey game. The infamous PS3 shootings. Our entire culture of road rage and impatience. Not to mention the Israeli/Palistinan "you started it" type revenge rage that will never be quelled.

Truth is, appologizing helps, demanding payment doesn't. Maybe... just maybe he needs either anger mangagement, or maybe even institutionalization. A Psychiatrist. I mean, think about it. There's this guy who used to be the nation's sweetheart. he tried and failed a sitcom of his own, while Julia Louise Dryfus's garbage show won her an emmy. He's now working the pissant comedy club scene. There's stored up anger right there. I still can't defend anything he did, but neither can I defend the hecklers.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Honky_Tonk_Man


I appreciate them not being censored for whevever I wish to talk about the longest reigning Intercontinental champion of all time.

How did he get into the WWF Superstars arcade game? I never use him when I play that game.

Anyway, it's a bummer to find out that certain people whose work you liked is a jerk. I was a Warrior fan, and still am to an extent, but then he had that incident when he said "queering doesn't make the world work". Then there is John Byrne. Where to begin with John Byrne?

[The Stryker]

HTM got into the game because he was the longest reigning IC champ of all time! Not to mention that he's cool,cocky and bad.

What about Kramer? yeah, he's like racist and stuff.

[VaughnMichael]

HTM got into the game because he was the longest reigning IC champ of all time! Not to mention that he's cool,cocky and bad.

What about Kramer? yeah, he's like racist and stuff.

i don't know really what he did was wrong but I think he said what almost 99% of the population wanted to say as you can see the black gentalmen didn't hold back either. People just hate each other when it comes down to it.
This is besides the point but I realy believe he's not a very stable person I mean you can tell just by looking at him the man has issues.:o

[ZariusTwo]

Holy s*it

Richards is challenged by The Iron Sheik!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53-6sgZX6kg

[Peanut]

That old bastard just needs to kick it already. Go away, Sheik. No one gives a damn anymore.

[ZariusTwo]

Is that you Brian Blair?:)

[VaughnMichael]

Holy s*it

Richards is challenged by The Iron Sheik!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53-6sgZX6kg

wtf lmao he's crazy I didnt understand half of what he said somethin about jerry splinter or something hahah:lol:

[Sewer Bull]

HTM got into the game because he was the longest reigning IC champ of all time! Not to mention that he's cool,cocky and bad.


OMG, I used to own a HTM action figure. It was in fact the only WWF action figure I've ever had.

http://i3.ebayimg.com/03/i/05/ac/0b/21_2.JPG

That guitar ist krieg.

Holy s*it

Richards is challenged by The Iron Sheik!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53-6sgZX6kg

Wow... a good chance for The Iron Sheik to shine on once again, at least for a while.

[Drtooth]

Only because of our celebrity worship junk culture is this still a big deal. Dude even sat down and appoligized with the hecklers. And seriously. I didn't know they called him "Cracker!" Dammit. Maybe Mike should be suing them.

[VaughnMichael]

Only because of our celebrity worship junk culture is this still a big deal. Dude even sat down and appoligized with the hecklers. And seriously. I didn't know they called him "Cracker!" Dammit. Maybe Mike should be suing them.
well none of us had been there but even the hecklers said they started it..
So michael went off the deep end which he seems to do quite a bit but calling some one the N word is un called for as well as them coming back and saying nasty things to him they should have shut up and just left and he should have stoped after he said that to them but they both kept going on and on as we can see in the video. Peoples Egos I swear.
Could you imagin if Fozzie Bear Finally got sick of the two old hecklers Statler & Waldorf hahaha.:lol: