Smallville - Now with Supergirl

[Midnight_Tanuki]

There are several in fact, let me list a few of them

Lex Luthor (in his unauthorized biography) had poor parents and started his empire on his own (and he had hair as a kid) not seperating from lionel's company
Krypto was named in honor of Superman's death (1993) not found by the young clark kent
Barry Allen was the first Flash, not Bart
Smallville and Metropolis are in different states, in the show they are only a few miles away
Jor-El's message to Clark in the pod
In the comics, supes could fly from a young age (even though I love the way this is handled in Smallville)

regardless, i'll still watch smallville, it's a great show after all. The inconsistencies don't really bother me that much. I just wanted to point out that they are out there. Particularly if you take the show with a grain of salt.

[Brodie]

Well, most of that stuff had to change to fuel the show, and make it accessible to a younger, newer audience. Sure, the Bart thing is weird. But he never said he was the first. And he used alias' of Wally West, Barry Allen, etc., so he might have taken those identities from them.

I still like this show.

[ZariusTwo]

...Smallville is a re-intepretation of the Superman mythos, it's not a true prequel at all, therfore it can do whatever it wants with the concepts.

It's not as if the comics hav'nt done that either, Superman was gay beyond beleif before the modern continunity revamp

[Brodie]

Well said.
I'm glad Sam Jones is off the show, though.

[DrSpengler]

There are several in fact, let me list a few of them

Lex Luthor (in his unauthorized biography) had poor parents and started his empire on his own (and he had hair as a kid) not seperating from lionel's company

Pre-Crisis, Lex grew up in Smallville alongside Superboy. However, a freak lab accident caused him to lose all his hair and he blamed Superboy for it. Thus his hatred for Superman all stemmed from his losing his hair. Awesome.

Post-Crisis, is the whole corporate executive-thing. Honestly, they just completely rewrote his and Superman's Post-Crisis origins with Birthright (replacing John Byrnse's Man of Steel origin). I haven't read that yet, myself

Krypto was named in honor of Superman's death (1993) not found by the young clark kent

Depends. Bibbo's pet dog Krypto was originally going to be named "Krypton" in honor of the fallen Superman, but the license didn't have enough spae for the "n".

Superman's pet dog Krypto came from Krypton when Superman went back in time during the Return to Krypton arc. As Superman went through the portal to return back to his time, Krypto followed him and came to Earth.

Barry Allen was the first Flash, not Bart

Technically, Jay Garrick was the first Flash back in 1940.

Smallville and Metropolis are in different states, in the show they are only a few miles away

True that. Smallville is in Kansas and Metropolis is in Delaware (and very close to Gotham City)

Jor-El's message to Clark in the pod
In the comics, supes could fly from a young age (even though I love the way this is handled in Smallville)

regardless, i'll still watch smallville, it's a great show after all. The inconsistencies don't really bother me that much. I just wanted to point out that they are out there. Particularly if you take the show with a grain of salt.

Just my two cents. :)

[ZariusTwo]

I just saw the trailer for the season four finale of Smallville, "Commencement2, given how great the last few episodes have been, I suspected this 90-minute feature would be full of great little revelations and character arcs

...The trailer alone apologised for the addition of Lois Lane in this season...

Smallville under bombardment

Lionel pparently dead

And, even better...

Clark...was in...the...Artic.

Clark...was in...the...Artic.

Clark...was in...the...Artic.

Clark...was in...the...Artic.

Does this NEED an explanation?

[IceFlash78]

Clark...was in...the...Artic.

Does this NEED an explanation?

Yeah.. that was umm... like his base during the movies, right? I only saw parts of the movies.

[Anarky]

The Fortress of Solitude is located in the arctic. This leads to one conclusion: Clark is getting closer to Superman.

[ZariusTwo]

Yeah.. that was umm... like his base during the movies, right?


The "Does This Need An Explanation?" line was actually a joke, almost every Superman fan on the planet knows where the Fourtress of Solitude is...

[IceFlash78]

Well.. excuse me for not knowing what teh Fortress of Solitude is... I like Superman, but my only experience with Superman was the "Lois and Clark" tv series. The Fortress of Solitude means nothing to me, other than it being his base in the movies...which never really made sense to me.. guess I need to see the movies soon.

[ZariusTwo]

Well.. excuse me for not knowing what teh Fortress of Solitude is... I like Superman, but my only experience with Superman was the "Lois and Clark" tv series. The Fortress of Solitude means nothing to me, other than it being his base in the movies...which never really made sense to me.. guess I need to see the movies soon.

...And read the comics

...And watch the animated series...

The Foutress is'nt just exclusive to the movies, it's Supermans' artic refuge in almost EVERY aspect of the franchise

[Brodie]

You also know that if Clark is closer to being Superman, that the shows almost over.

[Raph's Girl]

Anybody see Family Guy on Sunday??? Peter apperantly lived at the Fortress of Solitude for a while. Much to the annoyance of Superman (and apperantly the Justice League who was strangly having a meeting there... :lol: ).

Oh... WB announced their fall schedule today.... Season 5 of Smallville: The College Years (not the title...just what Im calling it :P) will be moved to Thursdays. :o

[BartAllen]

...And read the comics

...And watch the animated series...

The Foutress is'nt just exclusive to the movies, it's Supermans' artic refuge in almost EVERY aspect of the franchiseACTUALLY his fortress of solitude is in mexico now.

[Raph's Girl]

From thewb.com:

Smallville continues to successfully explore the legacy of one of America's greatest cultural icons. With a rabid fanbase and 3 top-selling seasons on DVD, it's clear that Clark Kent's journey into manhood will keep on thrilling millions of young adult WB viewers.

For Clark (Tom Welling), now the most eligible bachelor in Kansas, it's hard hiding his extraordinary gifts behind farmboy flannel. Now he's off to college, enrolling close to his home (and sweetheart Lana), but still heeding the call of his Kryptonian destiny. Remaining true to the original mythology, Clark finds himself traveling great distances to unlock his true potential. Lex Luthor, meanwhile, continues battling for control of his father's company as he comes to realize his own destiny, one bent on power, destruction, and revenge.

The move to Thursdays also brings out some new competition - sitcoms (Joey and Will & Grace) on NBC, and ABC's Alias is moving to the same time slot. All of the networks have not yet announced their plans, so The O.C. and Survivor may also still be on Thursdays at 9 too.

“This season, we're making a bold statement on Thursday nights by moving one of our signature hits, Smallville to 8:00,” WB Entertainment President David Janollari said in a press release. “The show faced some of the toughest competition of any series on television this season, going up against Lost every week, yet it continued to deliver great ratings, ” he said.. “With the critically acclaimed drama Everwood moving into the 9:00 timeslot, we think Thursday will be one of the most compelling nights of the upcoming season. Led by Treat Williams, Everwood features one of the strongest ensemble casts and some of the best writing on television.”

[Barkworm]

Raph's Girl, could you please pay a little more attention to similar threads before you open a new one? It's unnecessary to have several threads about the same topic.

[Raph's Girl]

Uh... Commencement is about the Season 4 finale.... my post is about Season 5... 2 entirely different topics. *blinks*

[Barkworm]

Yep, but both threads are about Smallville and I really don't see any reason for TWO Smallville threads.

[ZariusTwo]

Looks like the Artic scenes were exactly what we were expecting them to be...

Fourtress Of F*cking Solitude!

[Raph's Girl]

Cliffhanger!!! :o

HA! I knew Jason wasn't dead...but how's he gonna get off the show since Jensen Ackles has a new series in the fall? :P

Memorable stuff and questions:

1. Lois' dream...she dreamed about Superman! :o
2. Lois and Clark talking about their future... and her not wanting to be a reporter cuz she'd end up across from well.. she described Clark *L*
3. The spaceship Lana sees in the end...either Zod or Brainiac.
4. Ok... Clark was transported to the arctic.... what happened to Lex and Chloe?!
5. Ok now how did Clark know he needed to throw the crystal??
6. Ok.... Dark Dr. Quinn is definatly dead...but I don't think Lionel is...at least not yet anyways.

Oh and Lex... just go out and say you want Lana and get it over with... yeesh.... :P

[Jester]

Wait...they said 90 minutes....and i knew minus commertials it'd be less....but i didn't expect the 10 minute Batman preview to be lumped in as well....so just how long was this episode of Smallville??

[Raph's Girl]

The ep was actually 80 min plus the 10 min trailor.

[Jester]

Minus comertials it may have actually been a 60 minute episode...:P

Oh...and speaking of the Batman: Begins trailer...anyone else feel the new DC comics movies thing was a blatent rip-off of the marvel tag??

[Raph's Girl]

Kryptonsite.com has spoilers for the 5th season premier of Smallvilled entitled "Arival"...Clark is not alone anymore... Below is a review with my thoughts.

- Out of the ship that Lana finds come what seem to be two Kryptonians - Nam-Ek, a "beautifully built black man," and a blond female named Aethyr. Sounds like they're naked, as all Kryptonians are when Smallville seasons begin. So much for that "suit that Clark was going to wear in Superman Returns" rumor, eh?

Raph's Girl note: Nam-Ek??? And he's the new token black dude in the series??? But he's named Nam-Ek??? Who wrote the script? A Dragonball Z fan??? When Clark found out he was sent to earth to take the planet over I was comparing him to Goku but this is just rediclious! Is he related to anybody named Ka-Mi or Pic-Olo or even Den-De? :P


- Aethyr superspeeds in front of Lana. Lana notices a Kryptonian symbol on the small of Aethyr's back that is identical in look and placement to the one that Lana had on her back in Season 4.


- Lana asks the strangers who they are and where they're from. A military chopper approaches, and Aethyr sends it spiraling out of control, thanks to a burst of heat vision. Then, Nam-Ek uses his heat vision power to completely incinerate the chopper. Twenty armed soldiers approach in Humvees, and bullets bounce right off of the two strange visitors. They then incinerate all of their attackers with their heat vision.

Dierna note: So they're familiar with their powers...

- A Humvee charges full throttle at Aethyr, who grabs it by the bumper and flips the vehicle into the air. After all this commotion, Aethyr asks Nam-Ek where the girl has gone to. "She's of no use," he says. "We must find Kal-El." Lana hides and crouches in the bushes as all this is going on. End of teaser...

A few minutes later:
- Lex comes up from the rubble inside of the cave. His hand is bruised. He walks into the cave's inner chamber, and finds Chloe's cell phone laying on the ground. Lex spots the altar, where the octagonal key is resting. He examines the octagonal key, and hears a "You!" from behind. It's Nam-Ek and Aethyr, wearing fatigues stolen from the military people. Lex thinks they're really soldiers, and tells them that everything is under control, and that they're probably needed elsewhere. Nam-Ek asks Lex where Kal-El is. "Who?" Lex asks. "He possesses the octagonal key," Aethyr says, and in doing something that sounds like the Force in Star Wars, Nam-Ek lifts his hand and the key rockets into his palm. They ask Lex if he is Kal-El. "Who wants to know?" Lex asks. Aethyr grabs Lex by the throat and digs her nails into his skin. "Kal-El would not bleed," she says.

Dierna note: They're Dark Jedi.. uh huh... :P

And then....
- We see the Arctic tundra, and there's a human figure laying face down in the ice. It's Chloe. We don't know for sure what happens next, but it's a pretty safe bet that by episode's end, or at least early in the season, Chloe and Clark will have to have a little talk, because she now knows everything about where his powers came from and he's not your average run-of-the-mill meteor freak.

Dierna note: Wait..how'd she end up in the arctic and not Lex???

Meanwhile, at the hospital...
- Lois visits the Kents to make sure they're all right. She makes a comment about how they let her have a home before, so the least she could do is to help out when it came crashing down. The Kents smile, and then a shattering explosion shakes the walls. In the corridor are Nam-Ek and Aethyr. "Tell us where Kal-El is, or suffer the fate of your brethren," they warn. The sheriff fires his gun at them and the bullets fly off. (The script says his, but hey, isn't Nancy a she?) Lois watches in disbelief. Nam-Ek approaches Jonathan. "Where is Kal-El?" Aethyr demands that they are taken to him, that Jonathan would know where he is. Jonathan is shocked to hear someone saying Clark's Kryptonian name.


- Aethyr reaches for Jonathan, when Lois intervenes. "I know where Kal-El is!" She tells them that Kal-El is at Fort Ryan and is waiting for them. "I'll take you to him right now. But you have to promise to behave yourselves. That means no blowing stuff up. Got it?" Lois asks. Nam-Ek and Aethyr each take Lois by an arm. Lois grins, trying to cover her fear.

Dierna note: At least Lois is usefull for something...:P

And what of Lana?
- Lana wakes up on a couch in the mezzanine of Luthor Mansion. Her leg is bandaged up. She hears a scratching noise coming from downstairs. She looks down, and sees the Kryptonian symbol that she saw on the man and the woman, carved into the wood floor. Then it is revealed who is doing the carving - it's Lionel! "Mr. Luthor, what are you doing?" Lana asks.... and sadly, that's all we know right now.

Dierna note: Lionel is a Kryptonian computer now..that's all he is.

Clark and the Kents Reunited
- Clark eventually makes his way to the hospital where the Kents are at. Jonathan tells Clark that they're looking for Kal-El. "I'll make it easy for them. Where are they?" he asks

Dierna note: Wait...Clark found his way back to Kansas from the North Pole??? Where's Chloe???

At the military hangar....
- Lois gets Aethyr and Nam-Ek to the military hangar and is stalling them with chit-chat. "Conversation? Don't they do that where you come from?" Lois asks. Aethyr reveals that the place they come from doesn't exist anymore. Nam-Ek gets angry. He realizes that Kal-El is not there. Lois tells him that Kal-El is right around some metal trunks in the corner, that that is "where he likes to hang out." The two walk toward the trunks, which are labeled "Lead Munitions." Behind them is nothing but a rat, but it buys Lois the time to pick up a rocket launcher. Yes. A rocket launcher. Lois fires and it blasts towards the duo. Nam-Ek catches the rocket, but it still explodes, engulfing the both of them. The Kryptonians emerge from the blast. Lois is terrified. "Whoops..."


Dierna note: Lois Lois Lois...*shakes head*

Somewhere in Act Four...
- Lionel slumps toward the ground, unconscious. Lex gets up, out of breath, with a stream of blood trickling like a tear down his cheek.

- Nam-Ek and Aethyr are not pleased with Lois's ruse. "It was just a little prank," Lois babbles nervously. "Don't you guys have a sense of humor?" They hold her up in the air. "Guess not." Aethyr throws her 20 feet into a shelf of supplies. Things, and Lois, crash into the floor. Suddenly, Clark blurs out in superspeed, grabs both Nam-Ek and Aethyr by the hand, and throws THEM 80 feet, slamming into a cargo jeep. Yay for Smallville and the throwing around gag. They stand from the wreckage, unfazed. "We are not your enemies, Kal-El. We mean you no harm," says Nam-Ek. Nam-Ek explains that they three are the last survivors of Krypton, and that together they can do what their forefathers envisioned. "I saw what you did at the hospital," Clark tells them. "That's not utopia. It's murder."

Dierna note: Of course Clark shows up just as Lois is thrown unconsious...

- Aethyr tells Clark that some must be sacrificed for the sake of the many."

Dierna note: Or the one? :P

- Clark challenges her. "Then you'll have to sacrifice me, because I won't allow you to kill anyone else."

- Aethyr takes off her metallic bracelet and hurls it onto the floor. The bracelet mushrooms into a vortex of wind and black-purple light. "We cannot destroy you, Kal-El, but we can put you in a place where you cannot stop us," Nam-Ek tells him. Clark struggles as he is dragged toward the inferno.

Dierna note: She's got a tornado on her wrist??

- Clark uses some new skills he learned at the Fortress of Solitude earlier in the episode (obviously material we don't yet have spoilers for). He musters all of his strength to break free, and....

Dierna note: Oh goody..we DO see The Fortress..

....That's all we've got so far! See you in September! Stay tuned for more Season 5 spoilers as they become available!

[verminator_x]

season 5 oh damn i think they are on season 3 in norway, well no news that we always lies long after with television shows. i think even the dvd of season 5 will come further than the television show cames to some norwegian tv channels.

[ZariusTwo]

Hmm, sounds like Na-Mek and his companion are cheap knock offs of the Kryptonian criminals that atatcked Metropolis in Superman II, only there's no Zod.

Lionels' essentially Brainiac?

[Raph's Girl]

Got some rather interesting info...It seems Nam-Ek was in the Superman comics post-crisis. AKA Before the first universal reboot in the 1980's. And he was white so he's getting the Pete Ross treatment. A character obviously white in the comics yet gets a color change on tv. :roll:

Steelcaves.com describes Nam-Ek as "a Kryptonian scientist and healer who made an illegal 'Healing Ray' from the horn of the Rondor, an endangered animal of pre-cataclysmic Krypton. Overexposure to the explosive radiation of that ray transformed him into a Rondor-Kryptonian hybrid beast."

Nam-Ek eventually made his way into the Phantom Zone, shortly before the Crisis on Infinite Earths that changed DC Comics continuity forever.

And somebody on the Kryptonsite forums found info on Aeythr:

"Babaojay" has done some research of her own. Here's what she can tell us about Aethyr: "I just did some research into Aethyr..basically, Aeythr isn't a character, per se...it's the embodiment of the Phantom Zone. The best I can glean is that it is the result of two galaxies that collided and were destroyed, and Aethyr is the collective melding of all the souls that were lost. It basically consists of a multi-dimensional universe that will beharnessed by Kryptonians (and Jor-El) to form the Phantom Zone.

"It sounds like Smallville's Aethyr is in control of The Projector...the thing that allowed them to send prisoners to the Phantom Zone. A twist on the comics, but still basically the "gateway" to the Phantom Zone."

Aethyr was also referred to as "The Oversoul."

Here's an image of Namek from the comics:
http://www.kryptonsite.com/namek.jpg

[Raph's Girl]

Got some new spoilers for the season 5 premier...the biggie is...get this....

Lionel tells Lana that Nam-Ek and Aethyr are disciples of Zod and must be stopped.

ZOD!!! :o

Other spoilers include:

- Lionel gives Lana a green Kryptonite rock so she can stop the two aliens. Lana looks down at the rock, and seems to start to put the situation together as to what she needs to do...

Clark and Lex Confrontation
- "We don't have time for an investigation," Clark tells Lex, maybe referring to the events that happened at the end of season 4. "Then be straight with me," Lex challenges him. "If you're my friend, you'll tell me the truth. Why were you in the caves when the meteors hit?"

- Jonathan tells a police officer that Fort Ryan must be notified immediately. The officer turns around with a bloody face, his eyes dazed.

Clark's new skill learned from Jor-El in the Fortress has him leaping backward in the air in a perfect backflip. His feet ram into Nam-Ek's chest, sending him flying 30 feet. Aethyr rips a wing off of a plane's fuselage and swings it at Clark. It misses. Twin shimmers of heat vision blast after Clark. Clark blasts back with his own rays. This goes until Aethyr fires a blast into the axis of criscrossing beams up above. All three of them are flown back from the inevitable blast. Clark falls on the ground, near the vortex, and Nam-Ek grabs him by the leg. "Goodbye, Kal-El," Nam-Ek says, ready to give him the final blow, when his own knees start to weaken.

- Reveal Lana right behind him, clutching a glowing green rock of Kryptonite. Clark tries to hide his own gripping pain. Aethyr rushes across the warehouse, getting weaker as she gets closer to the green rock. Weakened, Aethyr lets out a burst of heat vision which sears Lana's arm. Lana screams and slams back, knocking over some shelves, right behind those trunks labeled "lead munitions." Clark is back on his feet. The vortex continues to whirl. "Your human friends are of no use to you now, Kal-El," Nam-Ek tells him. Clark remembers Jor-El's words inside the Fortress and superspeed leaps into the air, ands ends up in the rafters, hidden from Nam-Ek and Aethyr. Aeythr searches for him, frustrated, when Clark comes back down from up above and pounces her, propelling her into the vortex. She digs her fingers into the floor when she is sucked inside. Nam-Ek struggles and tries to grab her arm and pull her out. As Nam-Ek struggles, Clark hurls a cannon at him, and....

And that's the latest spoilers.... ZOD!!! :o

[ZariusTwo]

- Aquaman will be appearing, as a potential love interest for Lois Lane. I'm up for this one. Although there are some liberties being taken, they did the same with Flash, and that turned out to be a pretty good episode.

- James Marsters will be appearing as Brainiac (using a human alias, of course) and will hold some devastating information regarding Kal-El's past, and contribute to the further disintegration of Clark and Lex's relationship. Sounds pretty sweet!

- John Schneider (Jonathan Kent) will reunite with his "Dukes of Hazzard" Co-star, Tom Wopat (Luke Duke). "Luke" will be a state senator and old friend to Jonathan!

Source: Kryptonsite

[Raph's Girl]

1. Aquaman will be playing a swimming coach teaching Lex Luthor how to swim. Ya know with all his money you'd think Lex Luthor would already know how to swim. :roll:

2. After this ep will Lois next date Green Lantern or a returning Flash? I mean come on...she's already been with Clark of course and Bruce Wayne (she knows he's Batman...they dated for a while). Eventually Lois will have dated all the guys in the JLA/U :P

3. Being as James Marsters is Brainiac I guess this means that Lionel isn't Brainiac but just a guy with all the knowledge of Krypton in his head. :roll: James Marsters' Brainiac is in discguise as Prof. Fine one of Clark's teachers in college. So uh what's he teaching?? Krypton 101? :lol:

4. So Bo Duke got left with the farm when Luke went into politics...hmf... how rude.

[Raph's Girl]

Seriously! :o

According to Kryptonsite just in time for February sweeps Cyborg will appear in an ep aptly entitled "Cyborg"!

So we'll actually get to see a live action Teen Titan!:o

Cyborg was also in "Superfriends" in the 1970's so this is why he's showing up on Smallville.

So so far among the Superfriends roster to appear on Smallville:
Flash (altho since it's Bart Allen he wasn't in Superfriends....he's a member of the Titans.. :P)
Aquaman (who's getting a spin-off)
Maya (not sure who she is...some think she's Wonder Woman but she appears in February as well)
And now Cyborg

Now the logical thing for Cyborg to be in Smallville is to introduce Clark to Star Labs since that's where Vic Stone (Cyborg)'s father worked and where he became Cyborg after the lab accident that killed his mother and nearly killed him.

[GK Punk]

Give me Kara Zor-El or give me death!

[DrSpengler]

Wow. That's outta left field.

I'm surprised there isn't some sorta Cyborg-embargo thanks to the Teen Titans cartoon. Or is his showing up due to the cancellation of Teen Titans?

[Duke]

Give me Kara Zor-El or give me death!They had her and absolutely butched her character. I will forever hate them for that.

[GK Punk]

They had her and absolutely butched her character. I will forever hate them for that.

...Well that totally blows ass. I'm kinda glad I stopped watching it then.

[ZariusTwo]

Wow. That's outta left field.

I'm surprised there isn't some sorta Cyborg-embargo thanks to the Teen Titans cartoon. Or is his showing up due to the cancellation of Teen Titans?

Probably, the fact Robin has been confirmed to be appearing in season four of The Batman indicates heavily Titans is gone for good and any of it's characters can be used, the Bat-Embargo is effectivly neutrolised

[Turtle Dove]

bah........ Forget Smallville. They suck

[Jester]

bah........ Forget Smallville. They suck
And the point of that was??

As much as I like Smallville (though I've missed most ofthis season) I wish we'd get more cameos of character that are important in Clark's life...introduse him to Bruce (although the bat-embargo might apply) and Diana...I want some more front line JLers to be introdused...GL's another...

[Barkworm]

bah........ Forget Smallville. They suck
If you post your opinion on something, please specify. Posts like that are worthless.

[Turtle Dove]

Ah-FAir enough. Well I had the pleasure of getting to know Michael Rosenbaum. He wasn't very nice-and long story short he mis understood something and then threatened me with legal action case his friends told him to.

Wanna know something else? This actor needs a good slap-he's just a rich,spoiled jerk thinking he is all that now that Smallville is popular and he's gotten a big popular.

He ruined and taintedthe show for me. That's why I HATE Smallville.

[Raph's Girl]

I LOVE the 5th season!! There's lots of goodyness in it!

Brainiac
Aquaman (well ok maybe not really but he is getting his own series)
Lois and Aquaman (maybe she'll boink with Cyborg too :roll:)
Santa
Lana and Clark boinking finally
Jor-Lionel
Lex anxt over not getting Lana (altho he did in a dream...boy she looks weird all pregnant)
Brainiac
Dukes of Hazzard
Brainiac
Chloe helping Clark become the hero he will eventually be
Fortress of Solitude
Zod! :o
Have I mentioned Brainiac yet :evilgrin: mmm.. James Marsters...

[Dr. Doom]

Boo-yaaah!

[The Stryker]

Ah-FAir enough. Well I had the pleasure of getting to know Michael Rosenbaum. He wasn't very nice-and long story short he mis understood something and then threatened me with legal action case his friends told him to.

Wanna know something else? This actor needs a good slap-he's just a rich,spoiled jerk thinking he is all that now that Smallville is popular and he's gotten a big popular.

He ruined and taintedthe show for me. That's why I HATE Smallville.

So you hate the show...because you have personal problems with one of the actors?

Hm..i had a problem with Burt Reynolds for years and that doesn't stop me from watching the longest yard.

ANNNNNYWAY! I don't really watch smallville but Cyborg is pretty damned cool. I might have to watch just for him...he better be BLACK! :P

[Mandi-chan]

I LOVE the 5th season!! There's lots of goodyness in it!

Brainiac
Aquaman (well ok maybe not really but he is getting his own series)
Lois and Aquaman (maybe she'll boink with Cyborg too :roll:)
Santa
Lana and Clark boinking finally
Jor-Lionel
Lex anxt over not getting Lana (altho he did in a dream...boy she looks weird all pregnant)
Brainiac
Dukes of Hazzard
Brainiac
Chloe helping Clark become the hero he will eventually be
Fortress of Solitude
Zod! :o
Have I mentioned Brainiac yet :evilgrin: mmm.. James Marsters...

LOL:lol: .

I admit, I haven't really seen any of this season yet. The only reason why I was interested was because James Marsters is in it, now Cyborg too!

[BartAllen]

hmm... i wonder if we are just going to meet vic stone, or are we going to see some of his tech stuff. i mean seeing that arm cannon thing would be amazing.

[Voltron]

Zod is going to be on the show? I wonder how that works? I'll watch it, anyway. I'm a huge Zod fan.


COME BACK, KAL'EL! KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!

[BartAllen]

Zod is going to be on the show? I wonder how that works? I'll watch it, anyway. I'm a huge Zod fan.


COME BACK, KAL'EL! KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!I have a theory about that..

spoiler space.




the person who we think is jor el.. is in reality ZOD using clark for his own purposes. hes doing a mind job on clark. having him die, bringing him back. just to get clarks trust. I think by the end of the show when clark goes and does the global soul searching its going to be due to being dupped by zod, and thinking zod was jor el.

[Turtle Dove]

So you hate the show...because you have personal problems with one of the actors?

Hm..i had a problem with Burt Reynolds for years and that doesn't stop me from watching the longest yard.
:P

You know everyone reacts different to the situation. So whatever.:roll:

[ZariusTwo]

I have a theory about that..

spoiler space.




the person who we think is jor el.. is in reality ZOD using clark for his own purposes. hes doing a mind job on clark. having him die, bringing him back. just to get clarks trust. I think by the end of the show when clark goes and does the global soul searching its going to be due to being dupped by zod, and thinking zod was jor el.

Welcome to 2003 back when everybody had the exact same theory.

[BartAllen]

Welcome to 2003 back when everybody had the exact same theory.wow. thanks for being rude. i didnt know that.

[Raph's Girl]

the person who we think is jor el.. is in reality ZOD using clark for his own purposes.

Nope. Wrong! This season it was established that Brainiac is one of Zod's followers and in a recent ep tried to get him out of the Phantom Zone. Almost did it too but Clark closed the demensional gateway in time(with Chloe's help).

Jor El and Zod were both in that ep so it's impossible for them to be the same. Besides Jor El has a body now, he's possesing Lionel these days.

[BartAllen]

Nope. Wrong! This season it was established that Brainiac is one of Zod's followers and in a recent ep tried to get him out of the Phantom Zone. Almost did it too but Clark closed the demensional gateway in time(with Chloe's help).

Jor El and Zod were both in that ep so it's impossible for them to be the same. Besides Jor El has a body now, he's possesing Lionel these days.time will tell.

[Brodie]

Man, I love Micheal Rosenbaum now.

[Raph's Girl]

Kryptonsite has put up some spoilers pertaining to the NEW origin for Vic Stone(yes it's Vic Stone)aka Cyborg. I'd just like to say.. WTF?!:o :

Victor Stone is brought to life in a cyborg form by Lex.
- Victor (Cyborg) is looking for his girlfriend Katherine.
- Meanwhile, Clark is looking for a Dr. Nilson who helped Victor escape the first time.

[BartAllen]

Kryptonsite has put up some spoilers pertaining to the NEW origin for Vic Stone(yes it's Vic Stone)aka Cyborg. I'd just like to say.. WTF?!:o :

Victor Stone is brought to life in a cyborg form by Lex.
- Victor (Cyborg) is looking for his girlfriend Katherine.
- Meanwhile, Clark is looking for a Dr. Nilson who helped Victor escape the first time.
wow, that spoiler has just ruined his appearance for me. why do they have to tie victor into the superman mythos?

[DrSpengler]

wow, that spoiler has just ruined his appearance for me. why do they have to tie victor into the superman mythos?

My guess is because Smallville is meant to be more "Dawson's Creek" and less "Superman", so the writers don't want to acknowledge much superhero existance outside of Clark's life. Because then it would get "too unrealistic".

[BartAllen]

My guess is because Smallville is meant to be more "Dawson's Creek" and less "Superman", so the writers don't want to acknowledge much superhero existance outside of Clark's life. Because then it would get "too unrealistic".
Yeah, i know, i was just hoping it would of been handled like they handled bart, and arther.

[Raph's Girl]

Cyborg has been cast! Lee Thompson Young of "Famous Jet Jackson" fame has been cast as Vic Stone aka Cyborg in the Feb ep of Smallville entitled "Cyborg"

Also there's a rumor that Martian Manhunter is gonna appear. Well I guess that makes sense since Martian Manhunter has been a member of every incarnation of the JLA.

[ZariusTwo]

Cyborg has been cast! Lee Thompson Young of "Famous Jet Jackson" fame has been cast as Vic Stone aka Cyborg in the Feb ep of Smallville entitled "Cyborg"

Also there's a rumor that Martian Manhunter is gonna appear. Well I guess that makes sense since Martian Manhunter has been a member of every incarnation of the JLA.

At this rate, why dont' we just rename this series Smallville Unlimited Titans GO!

[ZariusTwo]

The latest preview clips for episode 100 "Reckoning", look pretty promising, of course the publicity photos spoiled a chunk out of it, but the clips from the promo are gripping

Clark telling Lana his secret, taking her to the Fourtress, a drunken Lex hits on her from what I gather from the phone coversation Lana has with Clark whilst driving, Lex pursues Lana, and distracts her just enough for her car to collide with a coach, Clark dashes to the scene with super speed, not even caring if Lex sees him (which he does), Lana is apparently lifeless


...Coincidently, I HAVE seen the other assorted leaked publicity photos that guarantee this may be a red herring on who dies, the person lying behind Clark in the photo sure as heck aint' Lana, I recognise it a mile away

[Cerpin Taxt]

That's the show about Superman, right?

Ha. I kid, I kid.

[ZariusTwo]

Major spoiler

http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=reck27is.jpg

[Raph's Girl]

Reportadly 2 people die in the 100th ep...but seeing these images: http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=16897

AAAH!!! :o

Does Clark take Jonathan's body to the Fortress just so it can be proven that everybody's been there now?? :lol:

[ZariusTwo]

I've heard the episode paid homage to the first movie, especially at the ending.

....Johnathans' dead, I was right before I heard of the red herring

[Raph's Girl]

Well.. Lana died... but Jonathan is the one who's really dead! WAAA!!!! Bo Duke died!!! :(

I found the death to be rather anti-climactic...mostly due to the reset button Jor El had. :ohwell:

[ZariusTwo]

I knew with all of those promos, certain people were asking to be dissapointed, and they were, for those expecting something a little closer to an episode with a few du ex machinas, it was solid, well written, and once again ripped into the Superman movie mythology

[malignant]

I loved it. I thought the going back and trying to change everything was over done a little, and they could of gone a different way.....but over all it ended up working well. Not dissapointed at all.....although i'll say it could of been done different.

But..still happy with it..ha.

[Raph's Girl]

Several interviews are up:

Kryptonsite's interview with John Schneider (the late Johnathan Kent):
http://www.kryptonsite.com/schneiderdeath.htm

Also Al Gough explains those images of John Kent's body in the Fortress:

K-SITE: Some photos had leaked a few weeks ago of Clark taking a dead Jonathan's body to the Fortress of Solitude, but that scene was absent from the final cut. What happened there?

GOUGH: We just felt it was too much. It was something that sounded great on paper, but ultimately it seemed a little awkward and a little morbid. It felt like a little bit of a stutter step in the episode. You'd already seen it once when he brought Lana, and it's not like he brought Lana's body there. I think some of it was the staging, and some of it was just - you didn't need to see that scene again.

Oh and in the 18th ep of the season entitled Fragile we learn that Martha is now the Senator... :lol:

[ZariusTwo]

...Who said the West Wing was cancelled?:lol:

[Krutch]

Oh and in the 18th ep of the season entitled Fragile we learn that Martha is now the Senator... :lol:

DAMMIT!!!!!!! Ever heard of SPOILER WARNINGS?!!!! UGH!!!!

[Raph's Girl]

Looky! It's... Green Arrow:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/greenarrowfirst.jpg

Aaand trailer screen caps:
http://www.kryptonsite.com/zodtrailer1-1.htm

[Raph's Girl]

If you haven't seen it yet...go on ahead and see the season 6 trailer for Smallville... ya'll might get a good "Oh NO they didn't!"...But yep...they did...

http://www.cwtv.com/cw-smallville.html

[Raph's Girl]

*drumroll*

Martian Manhunter!!! He'll make a sorta appearance in the Nov 16th ep "Static" in which Clark is saved by a mysterious person who just LOOOVES Oreo cookies. :lol:

The Nov 13th issue of tv guide mentions this and um...something else that'll happen in the ep mainly Lex Luthor proposing to Lana....but really he proposes to her cuz she's in the family way... :roll:

In February there'll be an ep entitled "Justice" in which Green Arrow, Clark, Martian Manhunter, Flash (Bart Allen), Cyborg, and Aquaman form the JLA (cuz there can't be a JLA without Martian Manhunter! )

[Cure]

Aren't they gettin' ahead of themselves a little? I mean, didn't they make the JLA when he was Superman?

And I'd like to see Batman..............

[DrSpengler]

So what's the list up to so far?

Flash
Aquaman
Green Arrow
Martian Manhunter

Still waiting on a special guest appearance by Vibe, personally.

[Raph's Girl]

So what's the list up to so far?

Flash
Aquaman
Green Arrow
Martian Manhunter

Still waiting on a special guest appearance by Vibe, personally.

Actually its:
Flash
Aquaman
Cyborg
Green Arrow
Martian Manhunter
Avenging Angel (Eh Im just hoping she returns)

Wonder Woman has been mentioned via a newspaper article: "Thymiscirian Queen Addresses Vatican"

[DrSpengler]

Wow, I must be falling behind.

It seems they're doing everyone *but* Batman.

[Raph's Girl]

Wow, I must be falling behind.

It seems they're doing everyone *but* Batman.

Batman will never show up cuz of the movies. There's some sort of restriction to having a Bruce Wayne show up in any live action stuff. Ah well... there WAS a character from Gotham in a recent ep tho... An old friend of Oliver Queen.... Man that was a bit of an intence moment... he said "Well I gotta get back to Gotham" and then it showed him going in the limo and the camera panned down to the back... everybody (at least everyone on the Kryptonsite forums) thought that the camera would show the liscense plate say Wayne... :lol:

[Jester]

Blasted Bat-embargo. Started with Bruce and his rogues being banned from JLU because of The Batman and now, thanks to Batman Begins we can't have Brucie on Smallville. :(

[Ra]

Meh, I think it's for the best not to show Batman. After all, it seems right for Superman and Batman to meet when...well, when they are Superman and Batman. Not Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent. It's just not right. It's better if they let him drift until Clark is a bit older and at least thinking about moving to Metropolis. I mean, "The Adventures of Superman" had the Batman/Superman game down so well that you just CAN NOT attempt to recreate it as anything different. I think it won't hurt anyone if Batman is left out of the picture for awhile.

Blasted Bat-embargo. Started with Bruce and his rogues being banned from JLU because of The Batman and now, thanks to Batman Begins we can't have Brucie on Smallville. :(
Dude, Joker's new design alone was enough excuse to stop Batman apparing. Forget the lawers; send in Rasta Joker and Batman won't be on Smallville for as long as everyone feels :lol:

[Jester]

So Clark meeting Jimmyn Olsen and Lois Lane pre-Daily Planet makes sence? I think that Clark and Bruce meeting pre-Bats/Sups would be cool, especially since this is it's own lil' universe.

And I agree about The Batman Joker's design, but that's not the Timm-iverse design. The reason Bruce and his RG were nixed from the majority of the last seaason of JLU is becauase little kids would wonder "Why is Batman in both of these shows?" I swear that network brass doesn't give kids enough credit.

[Raven]

Sounds cool, I guess.

Although I'm more excited with Heroes lately then Smallvillie....Smallville has just been kind of well lame.....

[The Stryker]

Wow, I must be falling behind.

It seems they're doing everyone *but* Batman.

Thank God.

[Raph's Girl]

Check it out! Here's the first image of Martian Manhunter! This is from the trailer for the episode. I got totally excited when I saw the trailer. J'onn J'onzz is one of my fave characters next to Superman and Batman! :D

http://www.kryptonsite.com/statictrail13.jpg

[Spike Spiegel]

I quit watching smallville after the third season....it's really starting to bore me....

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Aren't they gettin' ahead of themselves a little? I mean, didn't they make the JLA when he was Superman?


This show seems to pretty much have its own continuity. I mean, he didn't meet Lois Lane until he got to Metropolis in any other story, right?

I haven't seen too much of this show since the first season but I may catch an episode for Green Lantern.

[Anarky]

Here we go, guys, the episode is a mere couple of weeks away and we get a first look at the JLA. The players have been known for a while, but I'm amazed to see some of them in costume.

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/3223/svhiatus0056du9.jpg

I know it's blurry and all, but there's the whole episode waiting for us. And yes, I will watch it despite me not particularly liking Smallville. But I am planning on seeing the episodes which introduced other DC heroes.

And I bet Aquaman is going to be a useless tool in this episode. He usually is.

[Cure]

Oh, that's cool. The guy to the right is Cyborg, right? Cool. But wasn't there a thread before saying that Martian Manhunter would also play a part in this?

[ZariusTwo]

Go Go Smallville Rangers!

[Anarky]

From left to right:

Bart Allen - The Flash
Oliver Queen - Green Arrow
Clark Kent - Superman
Arthur Curry - Aquaman
Victor Stone - Cyborg

And yes, the Manhunter is rumoured to be somewhere in there.

[Raph's Girl]

From left to right:

Bart Allen - The Flash

And yes, the Manhunter is rumoured to be somewhere in there.

Actually Bart Allen isn't going to be called Flash just yet. His name will be Impulse.

As for our fave Martian...well...he isn't joining the JLA quite yet. His origin will be revealed in the ep after "Justice" entitled "Labrynth" Hopefully Clark'll get him to join the club.

[Brodie]

When will this air?

[Raph's Girl]

January 18th on the CW network. Check yer local listings for time and channel.

I just like to say tho that Im totally loving Green Arrow. I just don't like him with Lois... :P

[Anarky]

And here it is: The Trailer! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQkM5LjEnYo)

Looks like a mighty fine episode to me so far.

Actually Bart Allen isn't going to be called Flash just yet. His name will be Impulse. And you know this how? See, after your trying to sell us your own version of the Batman universe as fact, I have trouble believing you that a hero who apparently hasn't taken up a heroname yet, has a name.

[Raph's Girl]

And you know this how? See, after your trying to sell us your own version of the Batman universe as fact, I have trouble believing you that a hero who apparently hasn't taken up a heroname yet, has a name.

From Kryptonsite:
"but it has been hinted (in places such as writer Steve DeKnight's blog) that Bart Allen will be using a different code name "because of a DC note." Don't be surprised if Bart's new code name is a familiar one to fans of the character - something that refers to his Impulsive nature."

[Anarky]

So it's a rumour, oh joy. So it's almost fact, just that it may not be wrong. It'd be the same if I said "But don't be alarmed it's something in connection with his eXceSsive speed". Get it, XS? Another Speedster, oh joy. Now the confusion is perfect.

And spreading rumours as fact is something I do not appreciate. It misleads people and confuses everybody. Now I know you don't want to do that, but you're doing it. I think you could avoid a great deal of confusion if you'd include the source. I know you know a lot about many things and it'd be a shame if people would simply stop believing you because of a couple of slips when you wrote down the info.

[Dr. Doom]

Aaaaallright, gramps. that's enough excitement for one evening. -=Wheels him back to his room in the nursing home=-

[VaughnMichael]

Aaaaallright, gramps. that's enough excitement for one evening. -=Wheels him back to his room in the nursing home=-
hahahahhaha:lol:

[Raph's Girl]

Phil Morris (Vandal Savage in JLU) has been cast as Martian Manhunter in Smallville. Interesting casting....

http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=23674

[LogicDonny]

Now the question remains on what will martain look like?

Any similar to the one from the cartoon?

[Raph's Girl]

He was seen a little bit a couple episodes ago when Clark went to Seattle to stop a villian. Martian Manhunter saved Clark by killing the villian.

It was no surprise that he was first seen in Seattle as in the comics he lives outside Redmond. Green Arrow's home is Star City, which is just outside Seattle. So DCU has plenty of heroes that live near me. :lol:

From the little bit shown he looked similar to what he looks like in the cartoons. And IMO in that ep he visited Clark in his barn loft discguised as Chloe since when Chloe left there was his calling card where she stood, Oreo cookies. :lol:

[LogicDonny]

He was seen a little bit a couple episodes ago when Clark went to Seattle to stop a villian. Martian Manhunter saved Clark by killing the villian.

It was no surprise that he was first seen in Seattle as in the comics he lives outside Redmond. Green Arrow's home is Star City, which is just outside Seattle. So DCU has plenty of heroes that live near me. :lol:

From the little bit shown he looked similar to what he looks like in the cartoons. And IMO in that ep he visited Clark in his barn loft discguised as Chloe since when Chloe left there was his calling card where she stood, Oreo cookies. :lol:


yes that happens what martin can do.. umm i only seen a bunch of episodes of smallville. it's filmed in cloverdale bc.

[Jester]

Ok, question: Who's baby is Lana preggers with? My mother (yes she watches Smallville too....:P) and I argue it...I think he's Clark's, her: Lex's.

[Raph's Girl]

Ok, question: Who's baby is Lana preggers with? My mother (yes she watches Smallville too....:P) and I argue it...I think he's Clark's, her: Lex's.

It's Lex's cuz her and Clark hadn't been together in like 5 or 6 months. Unless Kryptonian gestation is too funky beyond words.... :P

[Raph's Girl]

The CW has released the official plot details for the upcoming JL ep of Smallville:

The Green Arrow (Justin Hartley) sends out for reinforcements and Bart Allan, a.k.a. The Flash (guest star Kyle Gallner), Aquaman (guest star Alan Ritchson) and Cyborg (guest star Lee Thompson Young) return to Smallville to help him take down LuthorCorp's secret lab. During a break-in at the LuthorCorp facility, Bart is captured and tortured by Lex (Michael Rosenbaum) and Clark (Tom Welling) sets off to rescue him but is felled by meteor rock. An alarmed Chloe (Allison Mack) goes to Oliver for help, and the newly formed "justice league" springs into action to rescue Clark and Bart.

Sounds like a fun ep... :P

[Hannah]

Aaaaallright, gramps. that's enough excitement for one evening. -=Wheels him back to his room in the nursing home=-
I lol'd pretty hard at that.

[Raph's Girl]

Lots of new pics from "Justice" of all the characters (Aquaman, Impulse, Green Arrow, Clark, Chloe, and Cyborg...and Donatello the horse :evilgrin: )

http://www.kryptonsite.com/justicegallery1.htm

[Anarky]

Okay, the episode was simply amazing. Almost no love and romance rubbish that constantly dragged down the show by just being cheesy. And they didn't emphasize that much that there's two people weighing billions each just casually wandering around doing whatever they please. It was just awesome. Hooray for the Justice League!

And does this mean I'll have to keep on watching Smallville?

[JetsAndHeels]

I loved the episode. My problem with the show lately has been too much Lana and too much drama...get back to the roots of the show and get Clark more involved. The episode last night did just that, showing us clark and the rest of this new justice league.
I hope things continue as they are, but they probably wont since Lana will be back.

And this is all coming from someone who has watched the show from day one...I don't want to see it get held back due to the drama that comes along with certain characters.

[Raph's Girl]

Yes.. u heard that right... Lynda "Wonder Woman" Carter will be appearing on "Smallville" in an April episode according to Entertainment Weekly. She'll be playing Moira Sullivan, mother of Chloe.

So...Chloe is Wonder Girl now? :o

Kryptonsite has some spoilers about the ep which reveals Moira Sullivan is really a meteor freak.

Just check out the Kryptonsite spoilers page for more info. The ep is entitled "Progeny"

[Anarky]

One might think that Wonder Girl is Wonder Woman's daughter. That's false information. Wonder Girl started off as a kind of "Smallville for Wonder Woman" back in the the day, just like Superboy was just the young Superman. Wonder Girl became her own character due to some misunderstanding back then which put Wonder Girl not only on the new Teen Titans but also in a Crossover with Wonder Woman herself.

Anyways, if Chloe-Mom... is really what it says in the spoiler, then it's not that unlikely that they're trying to give Chloe a power as well. I'd suggest they better make it something like The Question had on JLU. Some sense of heightened awareness or whatever you want to call it. Super-Gut-Instinct. That would make sense. Or give her hypnosis, because there's no way all these corporate bozos would just tell a highschool kid all that stuff Chloe finds out on a regular basis.

[Raph's Girl]

Anyways, if Chloe-Mom... is really what it says in the spoiler, then it's not that unlikely that they're trying to give Chloe a power as well. I'd suggest they better make it something like The Question had on JLU. Some sense of heightened awareness or whatever you want to call it. Super-Gut-Instinct. That would make sense. Or give her hypnosis, because there's no way all these corporate bozos would just tell a highschool kid all that stuff Chloe finds out on a regular basis.

I am well aware that the current Wonder Girl is not the daughter of the current Wonder Woman in the comics.

However you've got to remember that due to so many revamping that at one point Diana WAS Wonder Girl and her mother, Hypolita, was Wonder Woman.

In this week's ep of Smallville there's a meteor freak that has the power to sense other meteor freaks. And reportadly senses some mteor freakness in Chloe.

[Spawn Guy]

I'm hearing Donna is playing Wonder Woman herself now. I'm inclined to dismiss it as a rumour or just a temp job given the new JLA line up. Can someone up to date help me out?

And if this episode hitgs home with me...maybe I'd give Smallville another chance.

Not likely though. I never was a fan of the Pre Crisis Superboy concept.

[Anarky]

I am well aware that the current Wonder Girl is not the daughter of the current Wonder Woman in the comics.

However you've got to remember that due to so many revamping that at one point Diana WAS Wonder Girl and her mother, Hypolita, was Wonder Woman. Yeah, that was before they rewrote her entire origin and made Wonder Woman a piece of clay with added life. Hippolyta still is something like WW's mom, just not in the biological sense. Apart from that, the two don't really like each other either.

As for your spoiler: There you go...

I'm hearing Donna is playing Wonder Woman herself now. I'm inclined to dismiss it as a rumour or just a temp job given the new JLA line up. Can someone up to date help me out?

Sure I can... (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=17739)

[Spawn Guy]

Thanks mysterious eye patch wearing hero.

[Raph's Girl]

Welp.. In a couple weeks Lynda Carter will be appearing on Smallville playing Chloe's mom.

Also Martian Manhunter will be appearing for his 3rd appearance in the Season 6 finale in May.

But...another familiar face to the DCU will also be appearing in the Season finale.... that familiar face is none other than Bizarro!!! :lol:

[JetsAndHeels]

But...another familiar face to the DCU will also be appearing in the Season finale.... that familiar face is none other than Bizarro!!! :lol:

I hope that the finale is good, so far to me season 6 has been average at best.

[GK Punk]

Needs More Kara

[BartAllen]

Yeah, that was before they rewrote her entire origin and made Wonder Woman a piece of clay with added life. Hippolyta still is something like WW's mom, just not in the biological sense. Apart from that, the two don't really like each other either.

As for your spoiler: There you go...



Sure I can... (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=17739)
whoa anarky, you've never been more wrong about a comic book character. while Wondy and hippolyta would disagree on things, there was never anything other then love between the two characters, and while wonder woman was indeed crafted out of clay, she does possess the soul of hippolytas actual child.

Its a long convoluted story, but wonder woman is hippolytas daughter. and they don't not like each other.

Sorry for going off topic, but that had to be addressed.

Wonder Woman and Hippolyta never disliked each other.

[Raph's Girl]

The first images of Lynda Carter on Smallville are up on Kryptonsite!

http://www.kryptonsite.com/progenygallery1.htm

[Raph's Girl]

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=41877

TV Guide reported that The CW's Smallville will add a classic DC Comics character to the show when it returns for its seventh season this fall: Supergirl.

The magazine reported that Clark Kent (Tom Welling) will discover that he's not the only survivor of the destruction of the planet Krypton: His cousin Kara "was sent to Earth in a ship that arrived at the same time as baby Kal-El's," executive producer Al Gough told the magazine.

Gough added: "But there was a problem, and she's been in suspended animation for the last 16 years. We'll find out in the season premiere that the big dam break in last season's finale is the reason she's finally awoken."

Kara/Supergirl will help Clark get in touch with his Kryptonian roots, Gough said. "With his [adopted] father dead and his [adopted] mother moved to Washington [to become a U.S. senator] and Lana blown up, suddenly there's some family in his life," he added.

Kara will have all of Clark's powers and a couple he doesn't have yet, Gough teased. "She can fly," he said. "And her response when Clark asks why is 'Obviously, girls mature faster than boys.'"

Kara makes her debut in the season premiere of the SF drama and will appear in about half of the season's episodes. A casting notice is set to go out shortly, and producers hope to unveil their new addition at July's Comic-Con International in San Diego.

Raph's Girl note: Yay! The actual Supergirl! A bit convenient that her ship just happened to have landed in Smallville too. :P Ah well...

[gobo]

How did Lex miss that one? The ship better not be pink...

[Raph's Girl]

Some more info:

Kara, a teenager when Krypton exploded, was sent to Earth by her father, Zor-El (Kal-El’s uncle), to look after her younger cousin. But while in suspended animation she didn’t age and now it’s Clark who must be the mentor. “She becomes enamored with our culture: clothes and iPods and stuff,” Gough says. “We’ll have a lot of fun as she gets acclimated.”

What that doesn't say is that Zor El and Jor El are twins. I wonder if Kara knew Martian Manhunter since he lived on Krypton.

[GK Punk]

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMOMGOMGOMG

ITS REALLY HAPPENING!?!?!? PRAISE KRYPTON!!!!!

<3 Kara, oh how I love thee. just as soon as Im ready to give up on the show, they go and throw Kara at me. Sounds like they are using a similar story to how they introduced modern age Kara in to the comics also.

[Anarky]

Why can't you use the big Smallville-thread? It's there for a reason, you know. Or are you so hellbent on opening new threads for stuff like "Lana Lang made poopie?"

Anyways, I just might start watching Smalville after all. And who's going to bet money against "It will be one of those bubbly, bouncy, naive characters like Starfire from the Titans Toon?" Nobody? Thought so.

[ZariusTwo]

It's a common consensus Lana Lang IS poopie

[gobo]

In Smallville, she has always been poopie. That selfish little girl never sat well with me, became something detestible, and had a happy ending. :evilgrin: Now we know why he'll settle for Lois Lane though (it's just gotta be the initials >_<).

[GK Punk]

Add me to the list of people that hate the Smallville version of Lana. I can't stand her. And she is nothing like Lana's character at all. Chloe is closer to how Lana should be potrayed, actually.

but still zomg Kara <3 <3 <3

[Kendamu]

Why can't you use the big Smallville-thread? It's there for a reason, you know. Or are you so hellbent on opening new threads for stuff like "Lana Lang made poopie?"

Anyways, I just might start watching Smalville after all. And who's going to bet money against "It will be one of those bubbly, bouncy, naive characters like Starfire from the Titans Toon?" Nobody? Thought so.
Do you know how tempted I am to make that thread now?

[Spike Spiegel]

Add me to the list of people that hate the Smallville version of Lana. I can't stand her. And she is nothing like Lana's character at all. Chloe is closer to how Lana should be potrayed, actually.

but still zomg Kara <3 <3 <3


Yep, Lana is the main reason why I haven't watched the show in quite a long while...

[Time Mistress]

I've always hated Lana. It one of the reasons I never wanted to watch Smallville, until this season (Green Arrow finally made me check out the show). I don't think I've ever cheered so loudly as I did in that season finale when...well I don't know if it's okay to say given spoilers and all. Let's just say, I hope that's the last we see of Lana!:evilgrin: I'm a big Lois/Clark fan since the days of Cain and Hatcher. Poor Chloe though, I always liked her. I'm looking forward to seeing Supergirl. But I really want Green Arrow and the Justice League back too.

[Raph's Girl]

Some more news:

Check out the character breakdown for the character at Kryptonsite:
http://www.kryptonsite.com/supergirlbreakdown.htm

http://www.kryptonsite.com/supergirlseason7.htm
Also other news: Kara will be a love interest for Jimmy Olson. Course this means poor Chloe has a rival to contend with. Dangit...I liked Jimmy and Chloe together! :ohwell:

[GK Punk]

I'm sorry but, Kara > All

Reading the casting call, it sounds like they are going to base her off of the current Kara in the comics.

And edit: My exgirlfriend is going to comic-con in San Diego. If Kara's actress is there She's going to try getting me some pics and an autograph!

[Raph's Girl]

Aaaaand Supergirl/Kara has been cast!! She'll be played by Canadian (well duh) actress Laura Vandervoort. She's pretty!

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20045784,00.html

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2007/news/070723/laura_vandervoort.jpg

[Jester]

Kara and Jimmy...oh boy that may open things up for the Chloe/Clark match that I personally feel needs come. They might work you know...until he falls for Lois...

[GK Punk]

I just came here to see if you posted this yet, Raph's Girl. I am curious to know what Kara herself will look like. Im hoping they go with angsty look for her. Ale Garza made me fall in love with it.

[GK Punk]

Hey look, it's... Kara :\

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1520/karafirstsf3.jpg

[Raph's Girl]

Bunch of Smallville news at Comic con:
http://enewsi.com/news.php?catid=191&itemid=11460


- Dean Cain will be guest starring as a villian in episode 4 of the new season.

- Martian Manhunter and Green Arrow will both be returning this season. Oliver will be bringing old and new friends with him.

- Lois will get a job at a major metropolitan paper this season.

- DC Direct will be doing new 6" Smallville action figures based on the Justice League

1: They've been trying to get Dean Cain in the series for years and when they finally do....he's evil. :lol:

Here's spoilers about Dean's character from Kryptonsite:


Dean will be appearing in the seventh season's fourth episode, "Cure," playing a doctor who we think is named Curtis Knox.

The possibly-villainous Dr. Knox has a special talent - he can "cure" someone from being a "meteor freak," forever changing their lives and rehabilitating them. This news, of course, is of special interest to Chloe. But Dr. Knox may have yet another secret which may mean his deeds aren't necessarily that good.

Dr. Knox is working for or with Lex Luthor, so expect some scenes between Dean and Michael Rosenbaum. He might also tie into the over-arcing Level 33.1 story.

Gee...his character has the same innitials as Clark... :roll:


2: NEW friends??? Oooh! I wonder what new JLAers he'll be brining?!

3: Lois job....she unfortunatly only gets a job at the Daily Planet by sleeping with the new Chief Editor. :roll: (wonder what her BF, Oliver Queen, will say about that! )

[ZariusTwo]

If you'd been actually following the show, you'd know Queen is'nt her boyfriend anymore.

[GK Punk]

Yeah that's what I Thought. I was pretty sure they broke up.

Anyway, I look forward to seeing Dean Cain, just for s**ts and giggles. There's a rumor that Helen Slater may also make an appearence this season.

[Raph's Girl]

If you'd been actually following the show, you'd know Queen is'nt her boyfriend anymore.

Actually from the spoilers I've read when Queen returns he's not gonna be happy with Lois finding somebody new. They didn't exactly break up. I think his words were that they were taking a bit of a break. *shrugs*

Ah well... either way it's stupid what they're doing with Lois. She's a slut.

[gobo]

"We Were On A Break!" ^_^

[Raph's Girl]

New piccies are up of the new Supergirl. Damn that girl is skinny as heck. http://www.kryptonsite.com/kara2.htm

Also Erica Durance said in an interview that Lois is over Oliver Queen. :ohwell:

[ZariusTwo]

She was over him during most of the sixth season.

Ugh, 'shippers...

[GK Punk]

I... Just don't think she looks very Kara-ish to me. I'm kind of dissapointed. I guess I expected them to make her look kind of angsty like she is in the more recent comics (Especially during Ale Garza's run.)

[Raph's Girl]

Welp... looks like the rumours are true. Helen Slater (1984's Supergirl) will be appearing in an upcoming ep of Smallville playing a character simply called Supergirl's aunt (so we're assuming ATM that it's Lara). She'll be in the 6th ep of the season.

[Time Mistress]

2: NEW friends??? Oooh! I wonder what new JLAers he'll be brining?!


Please be Black Canary! Please be Black Canary! Please be Black Canary! Or Batman! (But it probably won't so -) Please be Dinah Lance! Or Green Lantern! (Hal would be very cool too.)

Dean Cain AND Helen Slater! Supergirl! And more Ollie! I'm really starting to like this show and it has almost nothing to do with poor Clark himself.;)

[JetsAndHeels]

I'm really starting to like this show and it has almost nothing to do with poor Clark himself.;)

That is what has pissed me off about Smallville for the last 2 or 3 seasons. Slowly it has been getting away from Clark. The whole witches/stones arc, then the non-stop Lana/Lex dribble in season 6 drained my interest. I want things to stay focused on Clark and his journey.
I have been on board with this show since day one, and when it first aired it was absolutely great. Now it seems ideas are running out, and the show probably is too. I do not see Smallville running past this upcoming season.

[Raph's Girl]

Well they are pulling all the stops for the upcoming season of Smallville. Not only will the JLA return, Dean Cain. playing a rather familiar sounding character Dude...he's evil and immortal. Are we supposed to NOT expect him to turn out to be Vandal Savage?! :P will show up, but Martian Manhunter will have a bigger role, Supergirl will appear (starting with the first ep), and more of the Superman family will appear as well...including Lara (played by 1984's Supergirl, Helen Slater) aaaaand Kara's daddy/Kal El's Uncle/Jor El's lil bro himself... Zor El! No word on who's gonna be playing him yet.

Both Lara and Zor El will be appearing in the 6th ep of the season. An ep entitled "Lara"(first ep of the season is called Bizarro with the 2nd ep being called Kara).

[Raph's Girl]

Some more news on the upcoming season:

There's a possibility of Lara being a reacurring character (which i guess means Helen Slater has a steady job for the first time since her stint as Talia Al Ghul in B:TAS :lol: )

Dean Cain's character (Dr. Knox) has a beard....Im just waiting for them to flat out say that he's Vandal Savage.... Come on...dark haired evil immortal man with a beard? Hellloooo! :P

For now Martian Manhunter is just considered to be a guest star. Even tho he's in a heck of alot more eps this season.

When Green Arrow returns it's with a previously unknown JLAer...Come on Black Canary!!

http://www.ifmagazine.com/feature.asp?article=2329

[Raph's Girl]

There's some new pics up of Kara. This time the images are of her starship (which is WAY bigger than Clark's):
http://www.kryptonsite.com/karagallery2-1.htm

http://www.kryptonsite.com/karagallery1.jpg
Kara looking all serious with her ship in the background "Grrr...my ship! Grr!"

http://www.kryptonsite.com/karagallery2.jpg
Lois: "Look what I found Clark!! Let me take a real close picture of it with my cell phone that'll probably not make sense at all to anybody!"
Clark: "Mental note: Destroy cell phone..."

There are several other pics. Some of just Lois and Clark and others of just Kara

[JetsAndHeels]

The Superman homepage has some cool video clips to help promote the release of the 6th season on dvd. After this the season 7 set will probably be the last for this show.

Check it out here (http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php?readmore=3869).

[gobo]

Wishful thinking. The horse might not be dead yet, but it sure is falling apart.

[Raph's Girl]

After this the season 7 set will probably be the last for this show.

No.. the 8th season is the last. Tom Welling signed up thru an 8th season a couple months ago. But Michael Rosenbaum only signed up thru a 7th. So it'll be the last for Lex Luthor at least.

[GK Punk]

Dear Smallville producers.

We get it. She's hot.

Now put some god damn clothes on her. at least let her wear pants.

Thanks.

[ZariusTwo]

No.. the 8th season is the last. Tom Welling signed up thru an 8th season a couple months ago. But Michael Rosenbaum only signed up thru a 7th. So it'll be the last for Lex Luthor at least.

Whilst it will be his last as a regular, he will likely return as a recurring character much like Anthony Stewart Head did for Buffy after he "officially" left after the fifth season.

[gobo]

What's the likelihood that 'Smallville' is to be the lead-in to a full Superman series? The thought makes me uneasy, but it could possibly work.

[GK Punk]

The rumor was it's going to spin off a Kara Zor-El show.

[JetsAndHeels]

No.. the 8th season is the last. Tom Welling signed up thru an 8th season a couple months ago. But Michael Rosenbaum only signed up thru a 7th. So it'll be the last for Lex Luthor at least.

Season 3 was the last one as far as I'm concerned. After that the show started going downhill, unfortunately.

[GK Punk]

Season 3 was the last one as far as I'm concerned. After that the show started going downhill, unfortunately.

It really did. I wouldn't watch this coming season if I wasn't such a rabid Kara fan.

[ZariusTwo]

Season 3 was the last one as far as I'm concerned.

So it ended on a cliffhanger? How unrewarding.

Smallville improved again with the fifth season, and really, once they got rid of Ollie, the series became entirely about Clark again.

[JetsAndHeels]

So it ended on a cliffhanger? How unrewarding.

You are taking me literally. I meant for me personally that is when I think things started going downhill, storywise.

Smallville improved again with the fifth season, and really, once they got rid of Ollie, the series became entirely about Clark again.

I will have to disagree with you there. Season 4 was all about the witch/stones arc..which did ultimately lead to the formation of the fortress, but still was too out there if you ask me. What I did like was the landing of the ship during the season finale.

Season 5 got me interested only in Brainiac's character and the ship. There were a few episodes I enjoyed, but alot of it felt sort of "recycled"..the same Lana drama in about every week's show...the element of Smallville that has annoyed me to no end.

Season 6 just flat out pissed me off. Remember the episode where Clark goes to Seattle to find the phantom? I think he got maybe 15 minutes total episode time...while the rest of the show was devoted to this stupid Lana/Lex romance.
Between the love triangles, the marriages, the fake pregnancies, etc....it has constantly gotten away from Clark. I hope season 7 changes that trend, but it doesnt appear that it will.

[Raph's Girl]

Season 6 just flat out pissed me off. Remember the episode where Clark goes to Seattle to find the phantom?

Dude that ep was the first appearance of Martian Manhunter!! Who cares about Clark! My fave characters on the show are Martian Manhunter, Oliver Queen, Brainiac, Jimmy Olson, and Krypto! :lol:

Yea Clark's become a bit of a background character to the other heroes the last couple seasons but meh. I can't wait for Season 7 cuz Martian Manhunter is in more eps, Supergirl shows up, Lara shows up (and she might become a reacurring), and Bizarro might become a reacurring villian!

[JetsAndHeels]

Dude that ep was the first appearance of Martian Manhunter!! Who cares about Clark!

I care about Clark. He is the hero of this story, not Martian Manhunter.

[ZariusTwo]

You are taking me literally. I meant for me personally that is when I think things started going downhill, storywise.


Your sarcasm radar obviously doesnt work.

[Cure]

I don't remember much about Bizarro, but his state of mind and body deteriorates over time, right? He seemed really intelligent in the season finale, that's why I ask.

[JetsAndHeels]

Your sarcasm radar obviously doesnt work.

I've never had a conversation with you on here. I don't know your posting style.

[Raph's Girl]

The first trailer is up for the upcoming season of Smallville. The trailer shows Supergirl in action.

http://www.comics2film.com/index.php?a=story&b=28923

[Raph's Girl]

2nd trailer is up. This one much longer. It seems that with Lana being "dead" and Chloe being "dead" and um..his mom in Washington...Clark feels he has nothing to live for so he wants to start his full training with Jor El (who apperantly informs Clark that Zor El is eeeeevil.... hey! Just like in the comics! )

This trailer features: Kara, Martian Manhunter, Clark, and Lex. But it also shows Kara's ship after it's been all cleaned up Lex steals it to do research on it or something. Kara's ship looks like Brainiac's ship only it's red.


http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k292/Startrekfanatic/Comedy/stuff/Karaship.jpg

Trailer here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnO6gXaVAls

[Raph's Girl]

Laura Vandervoort is on the cover of Stuff Magazine. Go here to see the pictures. Guys (and some gals) set yer phasers to drool. Yowza! That girl is almost having a wardrobe malfunction there! :o

http://www.kryptonsite.com/laurastuff1.htm

[Jester]

Why did John Schnider leave the show again? Not to sound to proodish, but who else thinks Kara is just another device to sex Smallville up a notch?

[GK Punk]

Yep. Kara is by far my favorite DC character, and I don't appreciate the sexing up of her like this.

[gobo]

Honestly, I can't tell. The general atmosphere of the show makes everyone seem so plastic that I couldn't possibly consider them sexy. It's like that girl who couldn't stop eating in the first season. When the fat-suit came off, I thought she was pretty. It wasn't until I saw her in a different light but no thinner (as if there was any thinner than that) that I thought she was sexy. Go figure...

[Raph's Girl]

New trailer is up for Smallville season 7! This one just features Supergirl (who looks like she borrowed Wonder Woman's bracelets)

http://www.comics2film.com/index.php?a=story&b=29102

[GK Punk]

Yeah they played that during the commercials on Smacdown like a bizillion times this past week. I'm pretty excited to finally see her on Smallville, I'm just not sure I like how they've done it, nor the actress. Too bad they couldn't use "Kara" from a few seasons ago as the real Kara.

[Raph's Girl]

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0709/26/index.htm

It's official!! Brainiac is returning for a 4 ep arc this winter!!! WOOHOO!!! Mmmm..James Marsters....*drools*

Oh man.. wouldn't it be cool if Brainiac teamed up with Bizarro??? :D

[Raph's Girl]

Pics are up of Dean Cain's appearance on Smallville as Dr. Curtis Knox/Vandal Savage.

Well I guess if we ever wanted to know who'd win in a battle between Lois & Clark's Superman and Smallville's Superman we'll find out in a couple weeks!

I thought he was supposed to have an evil goatee?

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0709/27/deancain2.jpg

[JetsAndHeels]

I hope that will be a good episode. Seeing Dean Cain back on a Superman-esque show should be fun.

I just read the spoilers too....sounds good enough, but sometimes it plays out different.

[GK Punk]

I thought he was supposed to have an evil goatee?


emo hair is also acceptable. it is the new goatee, after all.

[ZariusTwo]

Dean: Here come the fuzz...

[Barkworm]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Dean Cain!!!

[Raph's Girl]

This week's Smallville was pretty good. We learned several things:

1: Krypton was destoyed in a civil war. Clark wasn't sent to earth cuz the planet was rumbling cuz of earthquakes...nooo.... he was sent there for his own safety cuz of a civil war....which then destroyed the planet sometime later.....um..

2: It's 23 GALAXIES from earth (Which would be how many light years?? )

3: Kandor!! Kara mentioned Kandor!! Her branch of the El line lived there. :o

4: Oh those disfunctional El's

5: Thank you Lex for cloning Lana....who then blew up her own clone in the car....:roll:

6: Now THAT has to be the most convoluted way for Lois to be hired at the Daily Planet. What the bloody frak?! I feel extremely sorry for Chloe. :ohwell:

[Raph's Girl]

Check it out! The first pics of Helen Slater (1984's Supergirl) as Lara (Superman's mommy) are up!

http://www.kryptonsite.com/laragallery1.htm

Amongst the pics of Lara is Zor El (Supergirl's dad, Clark's Uncle), played by Christopher Heyerdahl (known amongst SGA fans as the Athosian named Halling). He looks totally different without the beard he sports in SGA...

[GK Punk]

A: Helen Slater is still hot. I used to have a mad crush on her when I was like 4. :lol:
B: Zor-El looks just as crazy as Kara has led us to believe he is in the comics.

[Spike Spiegel]

A: Helen Slater is still hot. I used to have a mad crush on her when I was like 4.


Wow...she really hasn't aged much, has she??

[GK Punk]

Yeah, like not at all. The Supergirl movie came out when I was around 4 (so 1984ish) and she still looks like Supergirl.

[Raph's Girl]

I have to admit that I liked last week's ep with Dean Cain as the immortal Vandal Savage. I felt sorry for him. All he wanted was somebody he could live forever with. :(

Meanwhile tho in January not only does Brainiac return in the 10th episode BUT in the 11th episode which is entitled "Siren" marks the return of Green Arrow and the introduction of.... BLACK CANARY!!!! Yes!! That's right!!! Black Canary has been confirmed!!! After months of speculating wondering who the new JLAer would be and hoping it's BC she was finally confirmed!! No word on who's playing her as of yet tho. :D

[JetsAndHeels]

The Dean Cain ep was good IMO...I like him and it was good to see him back on a show that follows the superman story.

At least season 7 now has a decent episode...for season 6 it took all the way until "Justice" for it to be decent at all.

[Cure]

Lat night's episode was hilarious for the crazy forum goers thing. Hahaha. I thought of many people on this board as I saw it. :lol:

[gobo]

But... I'm not crazy. :( I'm just eccentric. :( Vaguely even. :( Non-conformist actually. :(

[Raph's Girl]

Lat night's episode was hilarious for the crazy forum goers thing. Hahaha. I thought of many people on this board as I saw it. :lol:

This board nothing! I was also thinking of the Kryptonsite forum goers! :lol:

I love that Lex Luthor is a comic book geek. I knew he was a fan of Warrior Angel (why does he have Wonder Woman's Insignia?) but I didn't know he was THAT big of a fan.

And the paralells between Superman and Warrior Angel were just spot on. As well as the fan complaints about how it wasn't true to the comics. :lol:

Got some more info on Black Canary. Apperantly by day she's a conservative radio talk show host by night she lets it all hang out by being a superhero.

A talk show host??? Really?? Ugh... :ohwell:

OMG! Somebody spotted it and capped it! There was a Black Canary action figure in last night's ep of Smallville! :o

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2081/smv75bcsv3.png

[Raph's Girl]

From Kryptonsite:

Marc McClure, who played Jimmy Olsen in four Superman movies as well as 1984's Supergirl, will be playing Dax-Ur, a Kryptonian who has been living on Earth as a human, in the episode "Persona."

This is also the episode that is scheduled to bring back James Marsters as Brainiac.

Movie Jimmy as a 100+ year old Kryptonian?! :o Why does the name Dax Ur sound so familiar...

Oh! I found it! JAX-Ur was a Phantom Zone criminal. I wonder if Dax Ur and Jax Ur are related?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jax-Ur
http://supermanica.info/wiki/index.php/Jax-Ur

[Raph's Girl]

Aaaand Smallville now has a Black Canary!! Painkiller Jane actress Alaina Huffman has been cast as Black Canary/Dinah Lance who by day is a radio talk show host, by night a fish net stocking wearing heroine with a sonic screem. She'll appear in January in the ep "Siren"

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0711/01/huffman2.jpg

[Raph's Girl]

Some new info has come about Black Canary. Yes she's wearing Fish Nets...but....


When we first see the Black Canary, she is a vigilante working for Lex Luthor.

The Justice League has been thwarting every one of Lex's plans, and he's not too happy about it. Lex tells her that if she brings him the Green Arrow, he will make it worth her while.

Green Arrow and Black Canary won't be romantic partners yet. "It’s the very beginning of their relationship," Al Gough told TV Guide. "At the end of the episode you clearly see that they have some sparks."

[Raph's Girl]

Check it out folks! The first images from "Smallville"'s take on Black Canary! Gods that's an awful looking costume...

http://www.kryptonsite.com/sirengallery5.htm

[ZariusTwo]

Considering that the series is capable of tremendous production values, that is...

...Did they raid Flash Gordon's budget?