EIGHTIES LOYALISTS PLEASE READ!!!!!!

[Reznorite420]

I know, I know...I've made countless comments on here saying about how I love the 80s and thus my peers consider me a freak for it. Until now, I never took that little predicament seriously. Hey, I am my own person after all. But about a week or so ago one of my friends at school told me, word for word, in person: "THE 80S SUCKED!"

When I asked him why he thought so, his answer was, "They just did!" My theory was, and it's very likely considering how mainstream my school is, that the only reason he thinks so is because everybody else does. What a lame-brain for thinking so...

So, I'm making this post for about 2 reasons:

-To spite him and

-To show him that I'm not the only person in the whole world that appreciates and LOVES the stuff that came out of the 80s

At the time I'm making this post I'm in my Latin class, where my teacher just happens to be a child of the 80s herself...

So please, if you were either old enough to remember the decade or just plain love it, POST, so I can show him!!!! :P :P :P

[Jephael]

I loved the '80s! It was a great decade to be a child, yet I regret not being able to remember much of that time period.

[Stone Ill]

I don't remember much...I was born in late 1988..Sadly, my earliest memory was in 1990..I remember my sister being born..

I love the 80s..I got to expierence a lot of it in the early 90s though. Transformers, He-Man, Thundercats, Ninja Turtles..that was awesome..Even some 80s music is pretty good.

[Karpo_007]

It is just stupid to sau that some decade sucks...

And 80's... Many great things were made then. First of course the TMNT. I belive it was 1983.

And the best action movies were done then too. Like Diehard or Terminator. They just can't make movies that good anymore...

[beaker]

You think your friends think your a diehard 80's hardliner? oh boy...all the forums I go to Im known as the 80's revisionist buff, LOL.

For anyone that says the 80's sucked, they were too young to remember.
I was conscious during the entire decade, so I remember very vividly everything. I remember the last great TMNT year(before the floodgates broke and they went down the toilet) 1989...perhaps the greatest year ever. I have fond memories of seeing Jedi, Goonies, Willow, Muppets Take Manhattan, Back to the Future 2, etc in theatres. The 80's had some of the best films, besides the aforementioned...ya had Dark Crystal, Labyrinth, Tron, Blade Runner, Aliens, etc. The best video games came out in the latter part of the decade like Metroid, Contra, Double Dragon, etc(Not the crappy NES versions, but the arcade versions) Some of the best music came from this deacde(the real alternative, not that grunge or tough guy rap metal bulldoo of the late 90's) Some of th ebest books Ive read, from William Gibson's Neuromancer to Crighton's Jurassic Park.

It was just a really unbelievably cool time to be alive. Once the 90's came about, all that fun innocence joy imagination and wonder was lost. In came the decade of youth angst, agression, and destruction. From Nirvana's Smells Like Teen Spirit to Columbine, with OJ and the LA Riors in between.

But the point isnt merely to regurgetate carbon copies of what worked in the 80's...no. Notice fantasy films are back, but in a modern light. Notice Transformers and TMNT are back; but again in a new updated look(Well cept for that crappy TMNT comic out) Video games, same thing...companies realize there was something glorious and great about late 80's gaming that people like...so here we got a new Metroid, Contra, Shinobi, Zelda, etc.

So that's it...were all heading back to the future...80's entropy but in a new light.

[Peanut]

I'm so happy! The 80's were the best. Everything was so much more innocent back then!

[xZAOx]

now, being a kid in the 80s was cool. some classic action movies were made then too.

BUT i still think the 80s mostly sucked. if you were a teenager or young adult...oh man...the music sucked, the style sucked, and the world was at a bad spot in history :evilgrin:

hehe

[azure turtle]

Wha?? Are ya kidding me? The 80's was a great time to be a kid! TMNT, Transformers, He-Man, GI Joe, ThunderCats, Ghostbusters, etc. We had the best cartoons ever.

And the movies! C'mon now! Terminator, Goonies, Killer Clowns From Outer Space... Lots of classic stuff!

I loved the 80's. :anime:

[beaker]

Wha?? Are ya kidding me? The 80's was a great time to be a kid! TMNT, Transformers, He-Man, GI Joe, ThunderCats, Ghostbusters, etc. We had the best cartoons ever.

And the movies! C'mon now! Terminator, Goonies, Killer Clowns From Outer Space... Lots of classic stuff!

I loved the 80's. :anime:

Totally. Like I said, anyone who says the 80's sucked was way to young to even be aware. I mean sure there is the big hair mullet sporting hair metal side to it...but I mean we definately had the best cartoons. The first season of TMNT rocked so hard, and the original Transformers I cannot say enough good things. Fraggle Rock was like one of the greatest freaking shows ever. And the movies, I could write a book about the endless joys of 80's movies. I mean the best TMNT period IS FROM the 80's? How could people on here say that time sucked!??!?

Let's see...the 90's. Agrresive hate filled angry music, school shootings,
OJ, tough guy rap metal and boy bands, politically correctness, Pokemon,
horrific sequels to great 80's films(Back to the future 3, Robocop 3,
Never Ending Story 2 and 3, etc), etc.

[That Matt Guy]

Let's see...the 90's. Agrresive hate filled angry music, school shootings,
OJ, tough guy rap metal and boy bands, politically correctness, Pokemon,
horrific sequels to great 80's films(Back to the future 3, Robocop 3,
Never Ending Story 2 and 3, etc), etc.

:roll:

Let's see...the 80's. John Lennon killed, Hostages in Iran, Challenger explodes, Beirut embassy bombing, AIDs virus discovered, Crack Cocaine hits the streets, Judas Priest fans commit suicide, Chernobyl, Exxon Valdez, Tienanmen Square protests, New Coke. And crappy movies like Mac and Me.

The 80's were a cool decade to grow up in, but they sure had their dark moments.

[Karpo_007]

(Well cept for that crappy TMNT comic out)

You are saying the new Mirage comic is crappy? You are also saying that archie nad the old cartoon were crappy. The new comic has reach the olds level yet, But it certainly isn't crappy.

You claim you like the older Mirage, But think that the new one is crappy? Makes me wonder how much of a Mirage fan you really are...

[beaker]

Let's see...the 90's. Agrresive hate filled angry music, school shootings,
OJ, tough guy rap metal and boy bands, politically correctness, Pokemon,
horrific sequels to great 80's films(Back to the future 3, Robocop 3,
Never Ending Story 2 and 3, etc), etc.

:roll:

Let's see...the 80's. John Lennon killed, Hostages in Iran, Challenger explodes, Beirut embassy bombing, AIDs virus discovered, Crack Cocaine hits the streets, Judas Priest fans commit suicide, Chernobyl, Exxon Valdez, Tienanmen Square protests, New Coke. And crappy movies like Mac and Me.

The 80's were a cool decade to grow up in, but they sure had their dark moments.

Heh, and most of those events took place in 1989...1989 alone had:
Tienanmen Sq Massacre, US invading Panama and wreaking havoc there,
Exxon Valdez spill, the crumbling of the Berlin Wall and the fall of the USSR, the end of the Russian/Afghani war but the beginning of al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden, the great San Francisco earthquake(that began on national tv with the World Series Giants vs. the A's)

1989 was also the birth of the first modern internet(WHole Earth in SF),
the year the Simpsons and Seinfeld debuted on tv, the debut of the 16 bit era in video gaming, etc. So a lot of beginnings and ends. Thats why I call it the most explosive year in history since the 60's.

As for "Am I really a fan of mirage?" Gee, I'd say my extensive back issues of their 85 to 94 series should be enough to answer that.

My main point about the new series was how uninspired it seems in thsi day and age. I mean Stan Sakai is black and white, but hsi art always remains the same. Yet weve seen the TMNT evolve than devolve. I honestly dont think the new Mirage series is up to the old series. Wouldnt a really great story arc with modern cgi fused manga tinged glossy color pages be a bit more appealing? I think so.

[Karpo_007]

I own them all too, And While the new series is not as good as the old mirage, It's hardly "crap".

[Nickokapo]

*gives a chill pill to the mirage purists before it's too late*
Peace~!PEEEEEEEEACE~!
Meh...I liked the 80s :D i was born at '87 so i really didnt live in the 80s but i found out more stuff when i grow up.
It had great toons...and...um...great toons.

[Reznorite420]

You're right, Beaker, I'm not exactly the total 80s buff like you are, but what I remember from the years I grew up (I lived the last 5.25 years of the 80s :D ) were some of the greatest memories of my life, especially the kids stuff!

[beaker]

You're right, Beaker, I'm not exactly the total 80s buff like you are, but what I remember from the years I grew up (I lived the last 5.25 years of the 80s :D ) were some of the greatest memories of my life, especially the kids stuff!

I think a lot of us are rediscovering the joys of that time; and or never left^_^

Yeah, I guess crap was a strong word. I guess every time I flip through the Dec 2001 to current Mirage TMNT series it just doesnt do anything for me. Just the other day I was going through old TPB of the original series and Jim Lawson late 80's takeover and was amazed. So it is definately not the black and white thing(Heck a lot of my fave comics are black and white, like JTHM and Oni Press titles)

[azure turtle]

The 80's were a cool decade to grow up in, but they sure had their dark moments.
Yeah, true. But I'm sure that every decade has had dark moments. Bad & Good... Both are major players in the game of life.

[Shellfox]

I can simpathise with those who never lived in the 80s saying it sucked, yes comaped to tady most of the media wasn't that great production wise, (I show movies and Tv shows to kids and all they do is point how how crappy iy looks :roll: ) but had to look through it, when their our age they'll be lucky if the crap on now is even remebered

as for the real world, hell all decades suck if you look hard enough

[xZAOx]

hell all decades suck if you look hard enough

yep, but not as hard as the 80s sucked!

(/me likes playing devil's advocate)

:flaming:

[Tokka-B]

yea, Zao, people have to hear the other side too! As for the 80's, I lived almost 4 years, and I liked it because they had such good cartoons for kids beginning to grow up, even if you didn't get it all, heh. I think cartoons now are too obnoxious and annoying voices as well as very loud, but hey, who am I to say? I am not a kid anymore, so therefore I have no right to judge... I think the 80's were good to grow up in, but not necessarily when you are a teenager or 20's guy... My theory is that people tend to like the decade they grew up in...it is kinda hard to explain though...
But as for beaker, he was becoming a teen in 90's no wonder he hated it so much. As for that Simpsons comment...how can you even say simpsons is 80's??? They debuted yes, but with one whole episode...and that one was 12/17/89, LMFAO!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Geez, that was only a christmas special anyway, the actual series really began in '90 man.... :roll: :roll:

[That Matt Guy]

I am not biased to one decade as some people on here are. You are an idiot if you claim the 80s were the greatest time to be alive, and you are even more of an idiot if you say the 90s were the most violent decade in history. And beaker, I seriously doubt that when time changed from 1989 to 1990, you stopped liking everything.

[Karpo_007]

I think it is stupid to debate on wich decade is good and wich sucks. Every decade have it's good and bad sides. Personally, I like the movies that were done in the 80's.

[beaker]

As for that Simpsons comment...how can you even say simpsons is 80's??? They debuted yes, but with one whole episode...and that one was 12/17/89, LMFAO!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Geez, that was only a christmas special anyway, the actual series really began in '90 man.... :roll: :roll:

Hey, I just said they debuted in the late 80's, I didnt say they got big in the late 80's. They actually technically debuted in 1987, but didnt get mainstream til 1990. After the TMNT thing blew up and died down, then the Simpsons came in to full force mainstream.

[beaker]

I am not biased to one decade as some people on here are. You are an idiot if you claim the 80s were the greatest time to be alive, and you are even more of an idiot if you say the 90s were the most violent decade in history. And beaker, I seriously doubt that when time changed from 1989 to 1990, you stopped liking everything.

Look at all the other posts, obviously there is a deep affection for th e80's. And I was just pointing out how the 90's killed what was good in the 80's media/entertainment wise.

Besides, arent you always talking about that Nazi/WW2 era stuff? Man, it doesnt get more disturbing than that period.

[Karpo_007]

Well the First world war was worse than second... OF course, the peace treaty they made then caused the second world war.

[Tokka-B]

Yea, exactly Karpo....some people actually call the 2 wars just one great war with a 20 year half time....to get ready again...and surprisingly, this belief is becoming more and more accurate...

Oh yea...Simpsons were in 1987, forgot about those 5 minute shorts no one cared about....lmao.....in 1990, the Simpsons started getting a sense of humor and made people laugh like they are still doing today. :)

[That Matt Guy]

Besides, arent you always talking about that Nazi/WW2 era stuff? Man, it doesnt get more disturbing than that period.

I'm always talking about Nazi era stuff? I mentioned I had an interest in that time period maybe three times on here. I hardly call that "always talking" :blanksta:

Well the First world war was worse than second... OF course, the peace treaty they made then caused the second world war.

Don't even get me started on that topic :wink:
Some historians would say that the war that began in 1914 did not end until the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991.

[Sauron]

My life is still based off the 80's. He-man,TMNT,Star Wars, GI Joe, Nintendo.
I hate how everyone is now in the new millenium. I guess I just don't fit in... :cry: Oh well :wink:

[That Matt Guy]

My life is still based off the 80's. He-man,TMNT,Star Wars, GI Joe, Nintendo.

They have a word for that, it's called living in the past. :wink:

[Psycrow]

The 80's were a great time to be a kid, but not so much a parent/adult... :D

[Tokka-B]

I'd say that is about 4 words matthew :wink:

[Wingnut]

Yes and you obviously still live in the eighties somewhat or you would not be in this forum :wink:

[That Matt Guy]

I'd say that is about 4 words matthew :wink:

Yeah, well, I should have said "phrase" instead of "word" :goofygri:

Yes and you obviously still live in the eighties somewhat or you would not be in this forum :wink:

Just a little. :wink:

[Wingnut]

The 80's grew on everyone a little

[Tokka-B]

Not at all....Many people haven't lived in the 80's at all :wink:

[beaker]

Not at all....Many people haven't lived in the 80's at all :wink:

I feel bad for kids that were more or less raised within the 90's. Instead of Fraggle Rock, Muppet Babies, Transformers, and other good stuff there was...Power Rangers, Barney, Telletubies, Pokemon, etc. Yikes!

[That Matt Guy]

I feel bad for kids that were more or less raised within the 90's. Instead of Fraggle Rock, Muppet Babies, Transformers, and other good stuff there was...Power Rangers, Barney, Telletubies, Pokemon, etc. Yikes!

:roll:
I really wish you would get off the "90s suck" warpath. Lighten up man, the 90s weren't all about Power Rangers and Barney.

[Karpo_007]

Well I don't think 90's suck, But definetly something happened in Hollywood since the best action movie were done in the 80's. 2 good ones in the 90's come in mind: T2 and the Matrix.

[Chewie]

Nothing better than the 80ies!!!!!!!!

I wish they would come back, okay I think such Things as "Neighbours", Den Harrow, limahl can stay away but the Toys for Example were much better than the toys are today.

By the Way:
Both of my Websites have something to do with the 80ies!
U see I`m serious! :D :D :D :D :D

[That Matt Guy]

Nothing better than the 80ies!!!!!!!!

:roll:
You are a fool.

[Chewie]

Not really, I meant the "Nothing better than the 80ies" for the Toys :D

[beaker]

Well I don't think 90's suck, But definetly something happened in Hollywood since the best action movie were done in the 80's. 2 good ones in the 90's come in mind: T2 and the Matrix.

Man, I dont kno whow you do it...but you always seem to have all the right answers! heh, coolness. Indeed, besides T2 and The Matrix, the only other movies that came out in the 90's were the original TMNT...but I consider than mor elate 80's(sinc eit was filmed in 1989)

[Karpo_007]

Yeah. Well that's just how I feel. I was born in 85, so I don't have many memories from that decade, It must be the fact that mos movies I saw as a kid were made in the 80's. But if you compare any movie made in the 90's to a same genre movie done in 80's, There is a big difrence. I don't know what excatly, but it is there.

[That Matt Guy]

Yeah. Well that's just how I feel. I was born in 85, so I don't have many memories from that decade, It must be the fact that mos movies I saw as a kid were made in the 80's. But if you compare any movie made in the 90's to a same genre movie done in 80's, There is a big difrence. I don't know what excatly, but it is there.

So no good movies were made in the 90s? :roll:

And I hardly consider The Goonies and The Never Ending Story the height of cinematic greatness from the 80s.

[Karpo_007]

There are few good ones made in the 90's like T2 and The Matrix(as I mentioned before) and who said Goonies or NES(LOL) were greatest movies?

Great ones were: Terminator, Die hard, Beverly hill's cop, Alien, Aliens, Ghost Busters, The list goes on. They just can't make as good movies anymore(Or atleast they didn't in the 90's).

[beaker]

Yeah. Well that's just how I feel. I was born in 85, so I don't have many memories from that decade, It must be the fact that mos movies I saw as a kid were made in the 80's. But if you compare any movie made in the 90's to a same genre movie done in 80's, There is a big difrence. I don't know what excatly, but it is there.

So no good movies were made in the 90s? :roll:

And I hardly consider The Goonies and The Never Ending Story the height of cinematic greatness from the 80s.

I would say quite a few people consider Goonies, and Never Ending Story some of the greatest film sof the 80's...add in there Aliens, Jedi, Empire Strikes Back, Terminator, ghostbusters, Willow, Dark Crystal, Labyrinth, Back to the future 1&2, Blade Runner, Tron, ET, Star Trek 2 and 4, etc.
The list is endless.

[Jephael]

hey I thought Back to the Future was the best movie they ever did in the '80s, and the sequals were both great in the early '90s!

[Karpo_007]

Th first sequel to Back to the future was ok, But in the third you could easliy see they had exceed their budget...

[beaker]

Yeah, Back to the future 2 is one of my fave films of the 80's. Because it came out at the very end of the decade(Nov 1989) it was able to really reflect back on the 80's(like the 80's cafe scene) BTTF 3, like most sequels that came out in the early 90's(TMNT 2, Bill and Teds Bogus Journey, Never Ending Story 2, etc) was beyond unwatchable.

[Jephael]

I thought BTTF3 was done perfectly well, and the train scene had to be the best scene ever!

[Tokka-B]

Oh god....now beaker is considering tmnt an 80's movie, sheesh. Yea karpo, you were right, there is a big difference in movies from 90's and 80's, I found that the plots were executed in a way incomparably better in the 90's. The 80's movies were mostly dull to watch with fuzzy and dark screens, most companies didn't pay much money to make the quality better, so it is like watching a 20's movie....

Whatever, I just get pissed off when people try to bash a decade, geez, all it is, is 10 years...it isn't like once they got to jan 1st of a different decade they decide to do things in a whole different fashion. I see where you are coming from Matt....

[Reznorite420]

Some historians would say that the war that began in 1914 did not end until the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991.That actually makes perfect sense; Lenin took control of Russia during the first world war, thus the beginning of communism in Europe. The whole "red scare" took place during the time afterwards. In the late 30s Hitler rose to power in Germany, and he had constant quarrels and hatred towards the Russian commnunists and especially Joseph Stalin. While I don't remember every nitty-gritty detail of the relationship between Germany and Russia during that time, but we all the outcome of the Nazi defeat. Then there was the Cold War between the US and Russia for almost 40 years, which technically started just before or right at the end of WWII. The constant power struggle caused panic (take the Cuban Missle Crisis for example) and chaos in the world at times. Of course we can't forget how Europe was divided afterwards (West being the Capitalist side, East being Communist). Things only worsened in the 1960s when Krushchev erected the Berlin Wall as a symbol of his Communist power, only to have the wall fall less than 30 years later during the rule of Gorbachev, and that eventually led to the fall of the Soviet Union (was that a second fall of Rome?).

Speaking of the Nazis and Star Wars, have you noticed that not only does George Lucas' story parallel to the rise of Hitler's power in Europe during the 30's and 40s, but the uniforms of the Imperial officers in episodes 4, 5, and 6 look vaguely similar to Nazi uniforms? Coincidence? I think not! In fact, my mom told me how she thought that his inspiration for the science fiction epic stemmed from what she told me was a "Nazi scare" in the late 60s and early 70s. It makes so much sense to me.

[Sauron]

I like TMNT II !!!!!! :flaming:

[That Matt Guy]

I would say quite a few people consider Goonies, and Never Ending Story some of the greatest film sof the 80's...add in there Aliens, Jedi, Empire Strikes Back, Terminator, ghostbusters, Willow, Dark Crystal, Labyrinth, Back to the future 1&2, Blade Runner, Tron, ET, Star Trek 2 and 4, etc.
The list is endless.

What about Amadeus, Stand by Me, Rain Man, Das Boot, The Last Emperor, Platoon, Blue Velvet, Glory etc.? Movies like that are what I consider to be the 80s greatest. But I guess for a kid Goonies and such would have been the coolest movies ever, even though I thought Goonies was stupid when I was a kid. 8)

[That Matt Guy]

Some historians would say that the war that began in 1914 did not end until the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991.That actually makes perfect sense; Lenin took control of Russia during the first world war, thus the beginning of communism in Europe. The whole "red scare" took place during the time afterwards. In the late 30s Hitler rose to power in Germany, and he had constant quarrels and hatred towards the Russian commnunists and especially Joseph Stalin. While I don't remember every nitty-gritty detail of the relationship between Germany and Russia during that time, but we all the outcome of the Nazi defeat. Then there was the Cold War between the US and Russia for almost 40 years, which technically started just before or right at the end of WWII. The constant power struggle caused panic (take the Cuban Missle Crisis for example) and chaos in the world at times. Of course we can't forget how Europe was divided afterwards (West being the Capitalist side, East being Communist). Things only worsened in the 1960s when Krushchev erected the Berlin Wall as a symbol of his Communist power, only to have the wall fall less than 30 years later during the rule of Gorbachev, and that eventually led to the fall of the Soviet Union (was that a second fall of Rome?).

Well said! 8)

Speaking of the Nazis and Star Wars, have you noticed that not only does George Lucas' story parallel to the rise of Hitler's power in Europe during the 30's and 40s, but the uniforms of the Imperial officers in episodes 4, 5, and 6 look vaguely similar to Nazi uniforms?

Actually I read somewhere that George Lucas based the Empire in the Star Wars films on the Third Reich. Even Darth Vader's helmet resembles the German steel helmets used in WWI.

[PWDESAI]

Dude the 80's rock in every way except music :dead:

[Nickokapo]

I'm not sure it rocked in every way, it had its downfalls too, but i agree most 80s musicians were scary :D