A Ban on Standing Urination?

[Jester]

Back in Germany, men are losing their last bastion of masculinity: "German men are being shamed into urinating while sitting down by a gadget which is saving millions of women from cleaning up in the bathroom after them. The WC ghost, a £6 voice-alarm, reprimands men for standing at the lavatory pan. It is triggered when the seat is lifted. The battery-operated devices are attached to the seats and deliver stern warnings to those who attempt to stand and urinate (known as 'Stehpinkeln')." Why not instead manufacture toilets with the seat permanently attached down? And won't the WC ghost simply make German men urinate standing but without lifting the seat?


Aug 18 German men were being admonished to pee sitting down by a gadget called the WC ghost; when the device detects a lifted toilet seat, it says, in German: "Hey, stand peeing ("Stehpinkeln") is not allowed here and will be punished with fines, so if you don't want any trouble, you'd best sit down." It was reported that the term for a man who pees sitting down, "Sitzpinkler," is a synonym for "wimp."


US News 8/21/00 John Leo "Now sit, Ingvar, sit. Young women in Sweden, Germany, and Australia have a new cause: They want men to sit down while urinating. This demand comes partly from concerns about hygiene-avoiding the splash factor-but, as Jasper Gerard reports in the English Spectator, "more crucially because a man standing up to urinate is deemed to be triumphing in his masculinity, and by extension, degrading women." One argument is that if women can't do it, then men shouldn't either. Another is that standing upright while relieving oneself is "a nasty macho gesture," suggestive of male violence. A feminist group at Stockholm University is campaigning to ban all urinals from campus, and one Swedish elementary school has already removed them. In Australia, an Internet survey shows that 17 percent of those polled think men ought to sit, while 70 percent believe they should be allowed to stand. Some Swedish women are pressuring their men to take a stand, so to speak. Yola, a 25-year-old Swedish trainee psychiatrist, says she dumps boyfriends who insist on standing. "What else can I do?" said her new boyfriend, Ingvar, who sits."

Can this really be true??

[Spitfire]

Wow that's board line retarded. I was born with the ability to pee anywhere I want and all over if I want. I'll be damned if some invention would rob me of that.

On further note I wouldn't want to be with a women who was stupid enough to dumb a man over something like how they prefer to pee. I am a master of my craft and I don't hit the sides. German men need to learn how to aim better.

[Jester]

Yeah... the whole "All things must be equal, even the use of the toilet" seems to be a bit over the top. When I heard it (on the Rush Limbaugh show) I swore he was being over the top....but looking into it I found the actual editorials and references to it....man. I almost feel like being the world's largest jerk and visiting Sweden just to pee while standing.

[gobo]

Meh. I sit down to urinate anyway. Call me a wimp. See if I care. I just think that stand-up urination takes longer than the girly-way because I refuse to let others take a seat in my urine.

[iris]

Of all the ways to try to change the world, this has to be one of the dumbest.

One argument is that if women can't do it, then men shouldn't either.
That's actually not completely true. :|

lol

[Spitfire]

I thinking banning the word "No" was one of the dumbest

[Jester]

To be honest a lot of the time I "Sitzpinkler," but an out and out ban seems a bit much. The removal of urinals, used for that specifically, come on.

I thinking banning the word "No" was one of the dumbest.

Wait...what?

[gobo]

Another is that standing upright while relieving oneself is "a nasty macho gesture," suggestive of male violence.
How did they come to that conclusion? Someone needs to take their magic markers away.
One argument is that if women can't do it, then men shouldn't either.
That's actually not completely true. :|
Absolutely. This is even proven by Christina Applegate in The Sweetest Thing. :D
I thinking banning the word "No" was one of the dumbest
How can people claim "rape" then? A step in the wrong direction, methinks.

[Spitfire]

Wait...what?

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=17859

How can people claim "rape" then? A step in the wrong direction, methinks.
Please don't commit that act which is against my desires.

Though knowing that list some of those words are most likely banned to haha

[Warhorse]

Hmmm. I am a woman, and this is not how I think certain things should be run. Yes, I am all for equal treatment, in that a woman should be paid as well as a man in the same field if she has the same skills.

But this law is preposterous. Well, if the alarm goes off because you raise the seat, well, then pee with the seat down. If a man soils the seat, well, it's the public officials fault for forcing this stupid law into place.

[jeff the cheff]

I would just piss all over the seats there.

This reminds me of that curb your enthusiasm episode

[Ra]

.....that's it. I'm heading for Mars. At least it's not insane like this place... *packs her gear*

[Raph's Girl]

Wow... Germany sure has changed since I lived there. :roll:

[ThirdMarioBro]

This idea will probably spread. I'm seeing it on the news. It's only a matter of time until some sexual discrimination case if filed just because some man uses his **** the way he was born to in a public bathroom.

This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Every day, government tries to take something else.

[Sewer Bull]

Jesus Christ people. Stop the hysteria. Whoever mentions "law" or "government" here?

Read the whole article. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/08/18/wpinkl18.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/08/18/ixworld.html) (September 2004 - so it's rather old news).

It's just some fun gadget sold to the enraged wives or girlfriends so that they could jokingly pester their significant others at home. Not any damn "law" imposed by the evil "government".

Some of your comments are just plain dumb.

[Jester]

Thanks Robbie-san, I was looking for this article, but could never find it. Germany isn't nearly as bad a Sweden, where bans in public restrooms, albeit elementary schools (but that may be the best place to indoctrinate little boys that standing to pee is something bad) are actually going into effect. They aren't law, but it may happen...I guess.

[discordiatookie]

I would just piss all over the seats there.



i'd do that too, then follow through with a massive steaming turd all over the seat, then i'd lift the lid to set off the alarm and then stand there and wait for the wife to come and piss all over her too... :evilgrin:

***

but honestly, my aim is good, and i always lift the seat to pee, and put it back down after i'm done. if i do somehow miss, i make sure i clean up after myself. and yeah, it is quite a funny little gadget...

[gobo]

Okay. So, we were all commenting on a satirical work as if it was true? Meh. I sit down to urinate. Call me a wimp. See if I care. :P At least it wasn't "A Modest Proposal" we were all taking seriously... :tcouch:

[Sewer Bull]

Thanks Robbie-san, I was looking for this article, but could never find it.

Took me ten seconds at maximum. Google + copy-pasting one sentence from your text = miracles!

The rest of your text appeared in "Jewish World Review" on 8/15/2000, but I can't find news that old on their websites.

[Jester]

I guess it's the text used...cause I was using the text from John Leo's editorial.

[Katie]

This story kinda reminds me.....

I was on vacation in Florida a while back and the ladies rooms had female urinals.....I just about died. I guess equality goes both directions :lol:

[Ali]

What a matter you are discussing about, standing urination! So let me tell you some thing then.

Not bad if you know that in my culture the male people avoid peeing while standing! In my country it's so, as my religion has recommended not to pee while standing, and to do it while sitting or squatting. I know there, they teach the kid when he can stand up, how to pee while standing, but it's not so here. However, I am male and quite healthy, but I don't pee while standing. You should consider that there are many different ways and theologies around the world.

To my own, peeing while standing is a nasty actions, also it does not feet a man's character, that's like you imagine a respectable man standing up still some where, his penis is out and his piss line in front of him! Who made the rule that males MUST stand up while urinating? And don't relate it to the nature, potentially many things are natural as an ability; one can bring it out (gun), aim and kill, but he has choosing power, although he has the ability, but he may not do it if he is sane; one can just bring it out, aim and piss, but does it mean he can not do it in a way but that?

Why stand to pee? Why aim? Aiming is for the time when you are distant to your target and can't be close to it, but when you can be close to it, and if you are sane, you prefer being close to your target than aiming to the target. So sit down and be relax, the name of the place you are doing that in, is rest room! And why you waste your time and energy in cleaning bathrooms? You can save it for more useful affairs by reducing the need of bathroom to be cleaned!

As for those who say "peeing while standing is of a few pleasures of a man!", I should say that a man is more valuable than way of peeing places as his pleasure and property! It does not fit a man to consider that as his worth! Men have more valuable special abilities to be mentioned! And as for those who say "peeing while standing is much easier than doing it while sitting or squatting", I should say that bending over and pulling down pants, and keeping a part of panties down for a while and aim for a while both need an attempt; and the fact that which one is easier for a person depends on habit. The way in which one's habit is based on, is easier for that one, and to which you habit, it will be easier for you! As God has made the ability of peeing while standing easily in guys, it must have an advantage, and yes it has. In men's jobs some times urgent situations happen, and some times they have to do some thing in a short time when the speed is important, and some times men have situations that they can't sit or squat or are in places where sitting or squatting is not easily possible; in such times they can use their ability of peeing while standing easily. But these urgent times just some times happen, not always! So I think there should be a project for men to stop, or to say better, manage peeing while standing. One group are already doing that and their site is: http://www.mapsu.org .

As I mentioned, there are some occations when it's needed to pee standing up, then it happens for both men and women! So what should women do? So easy, they can instantly pee standing up using a small device, one is here: http://www.travelmateinfo.com/page002.html .

However, it will be great if the current way of peeing of guys in toilets and bathrooms, in the most parts of the world changes.

[Jed]

Meh. I sit down to urinate.

Ya sh*t standing up?;) Gotta love Curb Your Enthusiasm.

I'd go all over the alarm if my girlfriend put one of them in.

[jeff the cheff]

What a matter you are discussing about, standing urination! So let me tell you some thing then.

Not bad if you know that in my culture the male people avoid peeing while standing! In my country it's so, as my religion has recommended not to pee while standing, and to do it while sitting or squatting. I know there, they teach the kid when he can stand up, how to pee while standing, but it's not so here. However, I am male and quite healthy, but I don't pee while standing. You should consider that there are many different ways and theologies around the world.

To my own, peeing while standing is a nasty actions, also it does not feet a man's character, that's like you imagine a respectable man standing up still some where, his penis is out and his piss line in front of him! Who made the rule that males MUST stand up while urinating? And don't relate it to the nature, potentially many things are natural as an ability; one can bring it out (gun), aim and kill, but he has choosing power, although he has the ability, but he may not do it if he is sane; one can just bring it out, aim and piss, but does it mean he can not do it in a way but that?

Why stand to pee? Why aim? Aiming is for the time when you are distant to your target and can't be close to it, but when you can be close to it, and if you are sane, you prefer being close to your target than aiming to the target. So sit down and be relax, the name of the place you are doing that in, is rest room! And why you waste your time and energy in cleaning bathrooms? You can save it for more useful affairs by reducing the need of bathroom to be cleaned!

As for those who say "peeing while standing is of a few pleasures of a man!", I should say that a man is more valuable than way of peeing places as his pleasure and property! It does not fit a man to consider that as his worth! Men have more valuable special abilities to be mentioned! And as for those who say "peeing while standing is much easier than doing it while sitting or squatting", I should say that bending over and pulling down pants, and keeping a part of panties down for a while and aim for a while both need an attempt; and the fact that which one is easier for a person depends on habit. The way in which one's habit is based on, is easier for that one, and to which you habit, it will be easier for you! As God has made the ability of peeing while standing easily in guys, it must have an advantage, and yes it has. In men's jobs some times urgent situations happen, and some times they have to do some thing in a short time when the speed is important, and some times men have situations that they can't sit or squat or are in places where sitting or squatting is not easily possible; in such times they can use their ability of peeing while standing easily. But these urgent times just some times happen, not always! So I think there should be a project for men to stop, or to say better, manage peeing while standing. One group are already doing that and their site is: http://www.mapsu.org .

As I mentioned, there are some occations when it's needed to pee standing up, then it happens for both men and women! So what should women do? So easy, they can instantly pee standing up using a small device, one is here: http://www.travelmateinfo.com/page002.html .

However, it will be great if the current way of peeing of guys in toilets and bathrooms, in the most parts of the world changes.


Um...ok. Just remember, your allowed to sit to pee which is good. You have the choice to do that which is important. Imagine if they made a law where you could only piss standing..that wouldn't be fair to you because it's your custom to sit down.

[Ali]

Um...ok. Just remember, your allowed to sit to pee which is good. You have the choice to do that which is important. Imagine if they made a law where you could only piss standing..that wouldn't be fair to you because it's your custom to sit down.
yea, but if they make me conveint why I should do some thing despite my customs, then I do that! A logical person should accept anything that is true, even if it it's not match with his/her customs! And thus I didn't just write 'please sit down to pee', and I also described why I said that!

[Ecto Jedi]

What a matter you are discussing about, standing urination! So let me tell you some thing then.

Not bad if you know that in my culture the male people avoid peeing while standing! In my country it's so, as my religion has recommended not to pee while standing, and to do it while sitting or squatting. I know there, they teach the kid when he can stand up, how to pee while standing, but it's not so here. However, I am male and quite healthy, but I don't pee while standing. You should consider that there are many different ways and theologies around the world.

To my own, peeing while standing is a nasty actions, also it does not feet a man's character, that's like you imagine a respectable man standing up still some where, his penis is out and his piss line in front of him! Who made the rule that males MUST stand up while urinating? And don't relate it to the nature, potentially many things are natural as an ability; one can bring it out (gun), aim and kill, but he has choosing power, although he has the ability, but he may not do it if he is sane; one can just bring it out, aim and piss, but does it mean he can not do it in a way but that?

Why stand to pee? Why aim? Aiming is for the time when you are distant to your target and can't be close to it, but when you can be close to it, and if you are sane, you prefer being close to your target than aiming to the target. So sit down and be relax, the name of the place you are doing that in, is rest room! And why you waste your time and energy in cleaning bathrooms? You can save it for more useful affairs by reducing the need of bathroom to be cleaned!

As for those who say "peeing while standing is of a few pleasures of a man!", I should say that a man is more valuable than way of peeing places as his pleasure and property! It does not fit a man to consider that as his worth! Men have more valuable special abilities to be mentioned! And as for those who say "peeing while standing is much easier than doing it while sitting or squatting", I should say that bending over and pulling down pants, and keeping a part of panties down for a while and aim for a while both need an attempt; and the fact that which one is easier for a person depends on habit. The way in which one's habit is based on, is easier for that one, and to which you habit, it will be easier for you! As God has made the ability of peeing while standing easily in guys, it must have an advantage, and yes it has. In men's jobs some times urgent situations happen, and some times they have to do some thing in a short time when the speed is important, and some times men have situations that they can't sit or squat or are in places where sitting or squatting is not easily possible; in such times they can use their ability of peeing while standing easily. But these urgent times just some times happen, not always! So I think there should be a project for men to stop, or to say better, manage peeing while standing. One group are already doing that and their site is: http://www.mapsu.org .

As I mentioned, there are some occations when it's needed to pee standing up, then it happens for both men and women! So what should women do? So easy, they can instantly pee standing up using a small device, one is here: http://www.travelmateinfo.com/page002.html .

However, it will be great if the current way of peeing of guys in toilets and bathrooms, in the most parts of the world changes.

Uhh, sorry dude -- but I'll keep peeing standing up, thanks. :P

[jeff the cheff]

yea, but if they make me conveint why I should do some thing despite my customs, then I do that! A logical person should accept anything that is true, even if it it's not match with his/her customs! And thus I didn't just write 'please sit down to pee', and I also described why I said that!

I agree. You should listen to logic more than customs. So in that case....STOP ****ING SITTING DOWN WHEN YOU PEE!!

uh was that logical?

[Death's Head]

Well, I'll never go in public, in my case.

[Draconic]

Men are designed to pee while standing up. The bladder is at a different angle, standing makes it easier for men, as opposed to women. Elderly men often cannot pee while sitting, due to enlarged prostates. The prostate will actually flatten the urethra shut.

By the way, the people who say that peeing while standing is sexist should apply that logic toward child-bearing. Since men can't do it, women should be kept from doing it too. Oh well, that's just a double-standard. The world's full of 'em, especially pertaining to sex issues. :roll:

[Ali]

I agree. You should listen to logic more than customs. So in that case....STOP ****ING SITTING DOWN WHEN YOU PEE!!

uh was that logical?
If I did it just because my customs say that, you'd be right. But who says I do it just because of my customs?! I do pee sitting down, as usual, because of my logical reasons that I mentioned, and logic, not customs!

[Papenbrook]

Why was this thread a thing?

[Candy Kappa]

Why was this necro'd?

[Papenbrook]

I found an interesting article that concerns this topic. (https://www.curejoy.com/content/which-is-healthier-for-men-peeing-standing-or-sitting/)


Summary

To pee or not to pee standing up is the question. For starters, sitting down ensures that you don't leave behind any pee on the toilet seat. Sitting down also improves your bladder and prostate health, reduces LUTS, and fully empties your bladder. Some experts also associate sitting down to pee with better sexual performance, thanks to improved prostate health.

[Klunk1234]

I'm a woman and I find this law ridiculous towards men. Besides, ladies public bathrooms are the most disgusting. Women with kids should go to the Family bathroom, not the ladies one. You find boys' pee all over the toilet or unflushed poo. Nasty!

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Not all of that is kids. You never heard of "squatters"? Some women don't sit, either, they hover over the seat because they think their bums are too good to sit on the same seat as everyone else. Or they are germophobes. Take your pick.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Thread of the Year.

[IndigoErth]

saving millions of women from cleaning up in the bathroom after them.
Hypocritical... Who hasn't gone into a women's public restroom and found pee all over the seat? (Or worse...)

Most people don't want to touch those seats, and I completely agree and employ that squat/hover technique myself (esp after the horrors I've seen at work because employees sadly did not have a private one just for us), but be you man or woman, it is not that hard to clean up after yourself if you dribbled. (Sitting to pee doesn't exactly solve the problem either if you still get up to wipe. Some sitters will still inevitably drip on on the seat...)

Maybe if everyone would just clean up after themselves then some women wouldn't have to sound hypocritical and some men wouldn't need a fainting chair for the threat to "their last bastion of masculinity." (Which is hardly a "last bastion" anyhow since anyone can pee standing up... We ladies will just make a bigger mess and I'm sure the men don't want to be left to mop up. :lol:)

[ssjup81]

I don't get why they would ban that. Besides, who's going to enforce it? If dudes want to pee, let them pee in the way the feel comfortable. They have urinals for a reason.

[Ninjinister]

Thread of the Year.

It's eleven years old.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

It's eleven years old.

I guess thread of the decade or thread bump of the year then :lol:

[Shark_Blade]

I found an interesting article that concerns this topic. (https://www.curejoy.com/content/which-is-healthier-for-men-peeing-standing-or-sitting/)

I’d pee on this article whilst standing up.

[CyberCubed]

Why was this thread a thing?

The irony is given you said you were 20, this thread was made in 2007 which is now 11 years ago, which means you were only 9 years old when this thread was posted.

And that means I was just an early 20 year old when this thread was posted. This thread is from a lifetime ago, when social media was still heating up and people still posted on forums. And now here we are 11 years later, and we've all aged.

The passage of time is a scary thing. Back in 2007 the 4kids TMNT cartoon was still airing.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

BINGO! Or everyone take a shot. Take your pick. Cubed must've found a gray hair.

[Utrommaniac]

Age complaints and not using irony right. Better a bingo than a double shot.

[ssjup81]

Wow, I didn't look at the date of this thread. I didn't know it was made all the way back in 2007. Who necrobumped this? lol

[IndigoErth]

The irony is given you said you were 20, this thread was made in 2007 which is now 11 years ago, which means you were only 9 years old when this thread was posted.
Well then I guess we can forgive her for being a bit late to the thread on caring about issues on how guys pee. :tlol:



Also, if it's 11, then it's too old to even be thread of the decade. lol

But if even a pee thread can make Cubed nostalgic for the passage of time, then clearly literally anything can. :P

[Prowler]

Wow, I didn't look at the date of this thread. I didn't know it was made all the way back in 2007. Who necrobumped this? lol

Papenbrook. She seems to enjoy necrobumping old af threads.

[TurtleWA]

Papenbrook. She seems to enjoy necrobumping old af threads.

How does one even stumble across an old thread with this title, like what are you searching for? :tgrin:

[IndigoErth]

Good point... Does the search even find them anymore?

I've had to use Google before to find far younger old (like months, not years) threads that fell out of their section due to lack of use.

Although some of the super old, super archived stuff makes for some enjoyable reading...

[plastroncafe]

I wonder if emasculation was the search term.

But that might be my own biased thinking, because I'm seriously trying to wrap my head around the idea of how sitting on the can is an emasculating activity...and I just don't get it.

[sdp]

Life will find a way.
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/rY0AAOSwAPVZD9tL/s-l300.jpg

[Metalwolf]

Well then I guess we can forgive her for being a bit late to the thread on caring about issues on how guys pee. :tlol:



Also, if it's 11, then it's too old to even be thread of the decade. lol

But if even a pee thread can make Cubed nostalgic for the passage of time, then clearly literally anything can. :PI guess it makes him all wistful 'When I was young...*sniffles*" 😰

[ProactiveMan]

I wonder if emasculation was the search term.

But that might be my own biased thinking, because I'm seriously trying to wrap my head around the idea of how sitting on the can is an emasculating activity...and I just don't get it.

It's not, it's just a sub-optimal method of urination. 'Things' don't necessarily point in the right direction, and you're not out of the woods as far as pissing on the floor either. It can shoot under the seat if you're not careful.

As far as insisting people sit... from my cold dead hands! *Insert photo-shopped picture of Charlton Heston holding a blurred out appendage over his head.*