Most overrated game ever..

[LogicDonny]

What do you believe is teh most overrated game ever that sooo many people tlak about etc?

Final Fantasy VII.. Nuff said.. They have milked that game with a series of games that takes place before and after the main game.. here's the whole list.
Oh btw, this info was found on Wikipedia.

-Before Crisis (Mobile Phone)
-Crisis Core (PSP)
-Final Fantasy Snowboarding (Mobile Phone)
-Dirge Of Cereberus (Ps2)
-Lost episode - Dirge Of Cereberus (mobile phone)
-Last Order (anime)
-Advent Children (dvd, UMD movie psp, Blu-Ray)
-Maiden Who Travels the Planet (Novella)
-On The Way To A Smile (Novella)

So this is the stuff that revolves around the ff7 universe..

[愛]

The Devil May Cry series feels pretty damn overrated to me. Just because it has a "bad ass" main character who has some sweet moves doesn't make the game a classic. The story sucks, the controls suck, the gameplay is repetitive, and Dante swings the other way. Awful.

And by the way. Maybe there were a bunch of extra games and whatnot off Final Fantasy VII because the story was good? Just a thought. The games could suck, but it's mostly because the story was great, and the fans wanted more. I wouldn't really call that milking, because the fans want it. Milking is unwanted extra games. But after a talk with Peanut, I also agree that FFVII is overrated. It's so successful because of the story, not the gameplay. Story is a major factor in the determination of a great game, but it shouldn't be hailed as the best RPG ever just because of the story. I actually have played better RPG's that cover more than just the story.

[Spitfire]

I find Halo to be pretty over rated even now that I like FPS games I don't see the rave. Just another sci-fi shooter nothing I haven't played. Plus I hate alien guns, I like real guns better. Bullets are cooler then energy beams any day.

I also think Gears is way over rated. It's a good game but it's not THAT good. For how short it's story mode is and it's story isn't really that great either. Game was made for multiplayer it seems.

Oblivion, it's a good waste of time. I mean like a GTA game I can have fun in it screwing around but other then that it's useless since most of it's quests are terrible and not much fun to do.

On the subject of GTA, GTA games are terrible. Better yet GTA:SA is terrible. I liked 3 alot*It did alot right that 2 just didn't* and then Vice City was cool because I liked the setting but they didn't change alot. SA comes along with not only a subject matter I don't like but the exact same gameplay and game really as the previous year. They add almost nothing hardly re-vamped.

Metal Gear Solid, honestly this series gets alot of praise and maybe it does have a good story but I paid for a video game not an interactive movie. I could beat the first game in like 90 minutes if I skipped the cut scenes and that was before I was super good at it. And MGS 2 is just*Shivers* 3 was a huge improvement but it's still short without the cut scenes. The boss battle modes and such added alot though.

Finial Fantasy...I need not go into detail about this. They were original at one point, and yes even though I don't like 7 it was a ground breaking game. But the others after were just pure crap, espcially 8.

I could probably think of more but right now this is what comes to mind. These are just my opinions though. I know a lot of you would disagree. I know I already disagree with some choices but I don't want to start a flame war or anything.

[Anarky]

The first Black & White game for PC. Awfully boring game hyped to be the new revolution-bringing Pong.

[Peanut]

This thread is just going to end up in a fight. Someone lock it.

[Barkworm]

Haha, let's see what happens!!

[Anarky]

Metal Gear Solid is overhyped, not overrated, if you ask me. People make way too much fuzz about the whole thing, praising it to the heavens and back. It is good, we get that, but not to the point where you have to constantly remind us. And I never felt that the cutscenes were too much. They added so much atmosphere to the whole thing and they looked awesome. So I can live with that.

By the way, I'm still upset about how easy it actually was to beat Psycho Mantis when you knew the trick. Those Bastards!

[Mecha Cow]

Let's have some fun.

Ocarina of Time.

No, just kidding. Or am I?
*E* Just read Peanut's post. Can't believe I forgot Metroid Prime. That's my serious answer.

[Peanut]

That's why I said almost.

OK, so let's see. Overrated, hmmmm.

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - Most flawed of any Zelda game. Doesn't deserve the high scores it received. Gamespot had it right.

Final Fantasy 7 & 12 - There are so many better playing RPGs than FF7, yet people fall in homo erotic love with the characters and can't let it go, for fear that they'll be left alone for the rest of their life, which is true. 12 because it plays like sh*t, yet gets over scored simply because it's a Final Fantasy game.

Metal Gear Solid (series) - Stealth game play that's 1up'd at every turn by a real stealth game like Splinter Cell. Terrible terrible cut-scenes with laughable writing, stiff voice acting and dumb characters. Luckily for the lobotomized, there's more of these delightful cut-scenes than there is game play. MGS: PO further proves the point that people are morons. The game plays like complete and utter sh*t, and every single gaming website admits this fact, yet gives it 9's because it's a MGS game and they like the horrendous story. Complete joke.

Devil May Cry (series) - Giving this series of games anything above a 7 is a joke. Horribly repetitive game play and shaky control only make the game fun to mindless people. Ridiculously feminine main character, horrid voice acting and a joke of a story.

Halo: Combat Evolved - Terrible over use of levels. The Library is, bar-none, the worst level in a big name FPS ever. The fact that it scored higher than Halo 2, yet had such game breaking, horrible levels is a mystery. The pistol is a POS. Let it go Halo:CE fan boys.

Resident Evil 4 - Pretty, yet all together boring. The shooting controls are clunky and fighting the same 4 or 5 villagers in slight variation is boring. Can't stand how the game plays, the pacing is questionable, the story is crap, and everything in the environment looks like it was smeared with sh*t.

Metroid Prime - Boring, repetitive, underwhelming. That pretty much sums up Metroid Prime. Exploration from the first person isn't very fun, the shooting is pretty bare bones and without much excitement. Back tracking is completely and utterly lame.

And for the record, yes FFVII is being milked. They're just trying to cash in on the pathetic losers who still base their entire life around a game that's been around for nearly 10 years. Let it go already.

Ocarina of Time.
No, just kidding. Or am I?

I hope not, because it is.

[Mecha Cow]

I am half kidding. It is one of the greatest games ever made, but some people really need to admit that it's 2007 and it's no longer the 'pinnacle of gaming'.

[Brodie]

Hmmmm....

As for Gears of War being overrated? No. Wrong. It's fantastic. Over hyped? Yeah. But it delivered. And if you say multiplayer is why it was made, that's dumb, the single player is much more enjoyable.

RE4? It essentially reinvented the RE franchise. And reinvigorated a character that almost got left behind. And it was covered in **** for a reason... So you could tell the difference between clean, Americans, and the dirty, evil non-americans. (I'm not joking, the enviornment is dirty,which is good, but anyone who isn't American, or working for Umbrella, they look like they just went dumpster diving.)

But, again, the idea of this thread lies heavily on one's opinion and how they see things.

My list?

-Oblivion
-Any Final Fantasy game...This doesn't mean I didn't like FF7 or 8, but they are all overrated.
-Smash Bros., Not that fun.
-Grand Theft Auto, anything after 3. 3 remade the franchise.

[Spitfire]

Hey, but he doesn't like Final Fantasy and Metal Gar Solid!

Just because I said the game is over rated doesn't mean I don't like it. I just think it doesn't deserve all the attention it gets when there's other good games out there they over shadow.

I happen to like the MGS series I've been playing it since Solid on the PS1 and have all the games*Except the PSP ones*, even VR missions. And while I think Gears Of War is over rated I own that too, still fun to play.

[Deathknight]

Final Fantasy 7 - I can't stress enough how overrated this game was. All I ever hear about is how great it is and I see a million spin offs all over the place. Honestly, I thought it was good but not THAT good.
Chrono Trigger - A good RPG that for some reason is considered to be one of the greatest. Honestly, I see nothing special about this game. The gameplay is very similiar to almost every other RPG in existance and the story was pretty good. Only thing I saw that made the fighting system unique was double and triple techs. Honestly, I thought Cross was a much better game. At least it had a unique fighting system. Only problem it had was there was way too many characters.
Zelda: Ocarina of Time - What was so great about Ocarina of Time still escapes me. Honestly, I think the 3d environment still needed work. With distance weapons you were very dependant on Z targeting to do most of the work with aiming or you had to sit there like a statue carefully aiming while hoping nothing came up and owned you from behind or the side. Also it really became very annoying having to constantly adjust your view so you could see properly using C up. This was also the first zelda game to lack an element I consider very important, challenge. Even though the distance weapon system sucked your foes were still very easy. Nothing really did a lot of damage to you while you had more hearts than ever before. Also, how dare they get rid of one of my favorite elements, sword beams when your hearts are full. Level designs and story were good but gameplay was medicore. I very much prefer Link to the Past.
Halo 1 & 2 - The most medicore FPS games I have ever played. Nothing in my mind makes the Halo series stand out. I've played single player and multiplayer in both games and get very little enjoyment out of either. The lamest element in Halo is truely the shields. Having regenerating shields was probably the worst thing they could've possibly done IMO. It basically very much encourages people to run away and make everyone's life difficult and frustrating. If anything, items should regenerate your shield so you have to find them and hope they're still there. Now in the original Halo it wasn't too bad because shields only took a few shots to get down but in 2 your shield is about as high as your life and takes even less time to regenerate. Vehicles really have a negative impact on the gameplay as well. It wouldn't be so bad if you could destroy certain ones a bit more easily but most of them having incredibly broken firepower anyway. Against the bigger vehicles, you basically have a rocket launcher or can't do anything. I really don't see how that improves gameplay. I really don't see how either even touches the greatness of Perfect Dark or Goldeneye for 64.
Gran Theft Auto series - It's very amusing for about 30 minutes, after that I found it to be very repetitive and boring.

I just know I'm going to get agro for this post but it's how I feel.

[LogicDonny]

So you see it's good to not lock this topic.. Having different opinions show that all the great games we love are not liked by others.. So why I wrote this topic is because I feel that certain games that people love are disliked by others.. You know..

[Krang]

I just cleaned up the arguments in this thread. Just like in the Best Games thread, let's please have a little self-control here and avoid attacking each other over something so trivial. Like I said last time:

For future reference, let's please not get into arguments over each other's lists. To each his own. It's fine to discuss and debate the lists, but not to troll and argue over them.

If someone's list makes you angry to the point where you must attack them no matter what, at least have the decency to keep it off the forums. This thread gets one more chance before it gets locked.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Final Fantasy VII

[Draconic]

Perfect Dark ftw :evilgrin:

[ThirdMarioBro]

Goldeneye 007

[Peanut]

Goldeneye 007

Wow. I remember being called stupid for saying that not so long ago. How the tides have turned.

[Ecto Jedi]

Goldeneye 007

Well, I can imagine it hasn't aged very well, but it was quite the sh*t back in the day.

[Mr. Snackpants]

Final Fantasy X (Not 10)

It's not worth all the praise it recieves.

[Ra]

The Final Fantasy series is okay, but yeah, it's way over rated for it's own good (however, I do enjoy watching the rabid fan girls oggling over Cloud :lol: Ah...how I do love teasing those fans...) The stories are okay from what I've played (Seven and I think eight. The one with the gunblade in it), but I just don't really like the battles and the controls. But maybe that's just me *shrugs*

Also the Spyro series has become waaay over rated. The first three original games were great, but the latest one just seemed a bit washed out to me. The trailer for the game is like an epic "The Da Vinci Code" trailer, complete with a choir of people singing with an orchestra pulling out dramatic chords over the top. Along with all of these big name Hollywood stars providing voices. What happened to the simpler time of Spryo trying to stop the Sorceress from stealling all of the dragon eggs in order to become beautiful forever? Instead we have Spyro trying to save the world from the darkness that is of a dark dragon with dark minions and dark crystals in a dark world with dark darkness...

...yeah, I'll stop now :|

[Peanut]

Spyro? Overrated? A game that gets no praise and crappy reviews can't be overrated, just as a heads up.

[LogicDonny]

Spyro? Overrated? A game that gets no praise and crappy reviews can't be overrated, just as a heads up.


Who called Spyro oveerrated? Lol. Spyro is underrated. the best spyro games were the first 3 on the ps1 and only the best.. if you can, get the spyro collection for ps1.. it's worth the price if u can find it.

[Spitfire]

I had all 3 Spyro games I still think I have one of them somewhere. I liked them as a kid but I never went back to them. I liked Crash Warped alot but I lost it, I still have Crash 2.

[Masked Ninja]

I've never played FFVII, so I can't complain about the overrating thereof. But I do have a question, just out of curiosity: if FFVII is so overrated, what's your guys' favorite Final Fantasy?

And Spyro... heh. :) I've always liked Hunter, just because he's a cheetah. He's a tad annoying, and I'd like to see his design smoothed out a bit, but still... he makes me smile just for being there.

[Ra]

Spyro? Overrated? A game that gets no praise and crappy reviews can't be overrated, just as a heads up.
Nononononono. Not like that! :lol: I mean in the advertisements for the latest game (I really should think before I post :lol: ) And yeah, every game made after the third instalment has been absolutely crap. I should know, since I own "Enter the Dragonfly" *shudders uncontrolably*

A good example was that I was babysitting my neighbours one day. The three of us, the two kids and myself, were watching TV. Then the new ad for Spyro came on. It was the first time any of us had seen it. The kids were excited, after all, their friends kept on going on about how good the ads were. I, however, was not. But still, the kids I was looking after AND all of their friends at school were absolutely flipping for this ad, and just couldn't wait until they got the game

[Kid Icarus]

Halo.

I went there. I've played it. It's crap.

Oh, and Dead Rising. Third party waste.

[Spitfire]

Halo.

I went there. I've played it. It's crap.

Oh, and Dead Rising. Third party waste.

Oh noes if Nintendo didn't make it's evil :cry:

DR is a great arcade style game. Guess I just like gore and zombies alot <_<

[Peanut]

Dead Rising was waaaay overrated. If it had come out anywhere but the huge drought it debuted in, it would probably have gotten trashed. The game is just broken. Poor design choices and such. It's still fun to play, though.

And yeah, Halo is way overrated too.

[Dr. Doom]

A lot of people mentioned FFVII (I'm not even gonna get into whoever mentioned OoT), and I wanted to add that I stayed away from this game for a good 9 years until I actually sat down and beat it this past May. The reason I avoided it for so long is that I used to carry the impression that it was overrated due to the overwhelming amount of rabid fan-people the game had. Just a natural reaction, I guess. But then all the hype over Advent Children was going around and I ended up hearing some really amazing music from the game, and when I actually gave it a chance I was very impressed with everything about it and became hooked on some of the characters, especially Vincent, who I'd count among my favourite VG characters overall at this point.

[Ecto Jedi]

I've never played FFVII, so I can't complain about the overrating thereof. But I do have a question, just out of curiosity: if FFVII is so overrated, what's your guys' favorite Final Fantasy?

FF VIII. I absolutely adored that game, which is quite unusual because I'm not an RPG fan and I very much disliked VII. Perhaps it's more about personal taste than anything else, but I really loved the graphics, the futuristic setting, and the overall storyline.

[LogicDonny]

I've never played FFVII, so I can't complain about the overrating thereof. But I do have a question, just out of curiosity: if FFVII is so overrated, what's your guys' favorite Final Fantasy?

final fantasy VI is my favorite. it's coming to the gba next month.

[Spitfire]

Dead Rising was waaaay overrated. If it had come out anywhere but the huge drought it debuted in, it would probably have gotten trashed. The game is just broken. Poor design choices and such. It's still fun to play, though.

And yeah, Halo is way overrated too.

Even though it came out in a dry period it still sells like mad though so in a sense doesn't that sorta prove it's successful.

I agree it's overrated but I still love it, though I don't know if I could bare beating story mode again, and the only thing I haven't done is survival mode to get the sword.

[Peanut]

It doesn't sell like crazy. Stop saying it does.

[Mecha Cow]

I'm not even gonna get into whoever mentioned OoT
I...Well...You're...DUMB!!!

[OA]

Halo...

I am brand new to the series and really xbox in general as I just got a 360 for Christmas and had never played an Xbox title before. I figured even though it was a xbox title, the proper way to break in my 360 was to play THE xbox game thats talked about left and right. So I picked up Halo 2. I just finished it yesterday actually and overall I was very, very underwhelmed. Obvioulsy the ending is a TOTAL letdown but even the final boss battle (if you can really call it that) was crap. The battle had basically just begun and I don't think I hit him once when I all of sudden I hear something like "noooooooooooo"; he must of fell off of the platform. Enter cutscreen and terrible ending.

It was a solid game dont get me wrong. Just not fantastic. It was no Metal Gear title for me thats for sure. I'll definately pick up part 3, but I wont be camping out for it. The online component though is pretty fun.

[Dr. Doom]

Also, my favorite Final Fantasy is 9, which incredibly underrated in my mind.

[Spitfire]

It doesn't sell like crazy. Stop saying it does.

Over a million copies is pretty damn good. That was months back it hit that so it's higher now. It's one of the most purchased 360 games.

I think as it stands Oblivion is still the #1 360 game in terms of sales. I don't think Gears has caught up yet.

[Peanut]

Dead Rising just broke 1 million units shipped, dude. Just. And only shipped, not sold. And Gears is already at 3 million, so Oblivion isn't top selling.

[Mr. Snackpants]

I can see why some of you think Halo is overrated. The campaign mode in both stink. I just finished Halo:CE. I first got my xbox with Halo 2 years ago. So it's taken me two years. Whenever I play a Halo campaign I end up quitting to play on XBL. The multiplayer is great, so thats why I dont consider it overrated. When you have such good online play it cancels out the poor campaign, imo.

[LogicDonny]

Halo...

I am brand new to the series and really xbox in general as I just got a 360 for Christmas and had never played an Xbox title before. I figured even though it was a xbox title, the proper way to break in my 360 was to play THE xbox game thats talked about left and right. So I picked up Halo 2. I just finished it yesterday actually and overall I was very, very underwhelmed. Obvioulsy the ending is a TOTAL letdown but even the final boss battle (if you can really call it that) was crap. The battle had basically just begun and I don't think I hit him once when I all of sudden I hear something like "noooooooooooo"; he must of fell off of the platform. Enter cutscreen and terrible ending.

It was a solid game dont get me wrong. Just not fantastic. It was no Metal Gear title for me thats for sure. I'll definately pick up part 3, but I wont be camping out for it. The online component though is pretty fun.

my friend, what you witness was a cliffhanger.. you are not alone.. many ppl were mad the game left in a cliffhanger.

still this gives us more time to see the brutes more now.

[Peanut]

I'm actually the complete opposite of most people, as I enjoy the singleplayer far more than the multiplayer. I love the story of Halo. That's probably why.

[The Chosen]

I'd have to say Football Manager the majority class it as the best managing but I don't like it. I prefer LMA Manager.

[Shark]

Oh god yes, Final Fantasy VII. Here's the story. It's about a depressed guy whose angery with this man whose has a deep sexual incest love for his mother. Meanwhile, some evil corperation is trying to destroy the planet. Suddenly, the incest man becomes the main villian out of the blue.

Now, you finally get out of that BOREING ASS MIDGAR level that you'll be on for at least 5 or more hours, also the very reason why one would NEVER play through a second time. The game finally get's better, and out of the mind numbingly boreing Midgar.

So the game does well for awhile. You loose a main character permanetly and early in the game, before you ever even each her 3rd or final limit break. And guess what, the guy whose in love with his mother killed your best healer, who is a female. On top of that, why did her friends let her stay dead? Did they hate her THAT much? They just tossed her in the water and said ,'Well, thats over with. We didn't need or want her anymore anyway.' What the hell was their reason for letting her stay dead? I had friggin 99 Pheonix Downs dammit! I would of spared at LEAST one.

You'll seen learn that the depressed guy is just a puppet. Great, give him more reason to be depressed.

Now these useless monsters come out, cause a little trouble, then become mostly optional bosses. They destroy one of the best looking towns while they are at it.

Now, they have an airship. It works like every other airship, but is plain ugly.

Now, they fight the final boss. Okay now, what? Is Incest man a ghost, a monster, the devil, or an angel? What the hell? Then, depressed man goes one on one with incest man, in the easiest battle in the whole damn game. You finally get to fight incest man for the first time ever, and he only takes on hit to die! What the hell? Why didn't we just do that from the damn begining? Throw a rock at him, kill him early!

Now the ending...oh god the ending. It was better than 1-6, but it didn't end! the ghost of Aeris comes out, struggles with the giant meteor, the end. What the hell? 500 years later, only see lions...or whatever. Midgar is ruined. Where the hell are the humans?

Now lets look at the music, namely, One Winged Angel. Okay, it's good, BUT THERE ARE BETTER! Dancing Mad would of been just as good if it too was given an Orcastra version. One Winged Angel didn't have one in the game, but was given one on the soundtrack. Give us a Dancing Mad one too! Or the Celes oprea music! Okay, so we got that oprea music, a short version in Final Fantasy Anthology, but no soundtrack for it? And on top of it, One Winged Angel is over used and remade so many damn times! Advent Children, Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2, I was glad I didn't have to hear it in Dirge of Cerberus.

Now the characters.

Cloud: Depressed man. A puppet. Enough said. We haven't had enough depressed puppets? Now, I personally prefer Squall, and he's just another depressed guy, so between the two, Cloud is better, so shame on me. But Cloud is nothing special. Snake, Dante, Tidus, Locke, lots of characters better or equal. Yet Cloud is the most overrated damn character of all damn time.

Tifa: A plain looking girl, nothing special. You see girls that look like her all the time. She had a better look in Kingdom Hearts 2. Oh wait, look, her breast are the size of bowling balls! Wow, special, lets overrate her too. While we're at it...lets overrate Rouge the Bat. Yes, Rouge the Bat is another super overrated character, simply because of her big breast, and appearence in an overrated game.

Aeris: Okay, while she's yet, ANOTHER ordanary girl, she at least has a slightly interesting background, and doesn't look plain. Yet, she too is more overrated than she deserves. I honestly don't see why people miss her once she's killed.

Barret: Okay, here's a good one. I have no complaint on this guy. Maybe his background sucks, but the whole arm gun thing is good. He's also not overrated. He's rated perfectly.

RedXIII: Another one. Good, original, not overrated, no complaint.

Yuffie: My favorite character, but even still, thats not going to protect her. Yet, another non-original character. And is she even really a ninja? All she does it throw things and steal. Also, what the HELL is with her taste in clothing? Her personallity is also annoying and overused...why the hell is she my favorite again?

Vincent: Meh, I don't know if he's over used, or original. He may of copied Dr. Jekkel and Mr. Hyde, but this bad ass is Dr. Jekkel and Mr. Hyde with a gun. I really can't say anything is bad about him. I may be missing something here though. Dante copied this dude, that much is certain. He's not overrated either, as I believe he's the only character from the game that deserves to be overrated.

Cait Sith: Okay, I hate this character, but he's pretty original as far as I can tell. Nothing else to say about him. He's underrated if anything.

Cid: Another character I hate. He's not overrated either though. He can be pretty funny at time. "If you get killed out there, I'll drag you back from hell and kill you myself!"

Sephiroth: God, the most underrated villian of all god damn time. What the hell is so special about him? He has an incest sexual love for his freaky alien mother, and goes crazy for no reason. Then, he stands around fire. While this has been annoyingly over used (Ramirez of Skies of Arcadia for one, who also had a freaky love for the main bad guy of the game, and went crazy for no damn reason), it's not very original. I mean, all sorts of bad guys did it before. Gannondorf, Kefka, Seymour, Liquid, Shredder, god dang f'ing Cell from f'ing DBZ. What do all of these villians have in common? They are all much more original and better than Sephiroth. 'But he has a long sword!' Big freakin deal! 'Dark clothing!' So does Squall, Ganondorf, Team Rocket (not Jesse and James), Karai, Angel (of Buffy the Vampire Slayer), Spike (same show), and an ass load of other characters. But are they as overrated as Sephiroth? 'But he's an optional boss in Kingdom Hearts games!' GOOD! About time someone fights the real Sephiroth. Too damn bad he doesn't die in one hit. But Sephiroth only needed to be an optional boss in 1 game! The other could of went to someone else, like Kefka, Seymour, hell, Gilgamesh for crying out load!

Wow...longest rant I ever did, but all of it is exactly the way I feel about FFVII. Now, while the game is good, it did NOT deserved the biggest fanbase of all time, it did NOT deserve to be the most overrated game of all time either. Sure it set a new standerd for RPG's, but thats it. Nothing else special about it. Mario 64 set the standerd of 3D games, but is it overrated? Doesn't look like it.

[LogicDonny]

:lol: Very nice post. It was enjoyable reading it. You nailed ff7 right.

[Shark]

Thank you, I enjoyed it myself. Makes me want to rant on another game...but I don't know what. Also, a friend reminded me of something about Aeris, so I added in... "On top of that, why did her friends let her stay dead? Did they hate her THAT much? They just tossed her in the water and said ,'Well, thats over with. We didn't need or want her anymore anyway.' What the hell was their reason for letting her stay dead? I had friggin 99 Pheonix Downs dammit! I would of spared at LEAST one." in the area where I complain about Incest man killing Aeris.

[愛]

While I would defend FFVII to the very end, you actually wrote up a decent argument for it being overrated. I applaud you for your effort, and I agree with you in many respects.

[Shark]

Thanks ^^ It was my honest opinions ^^ I even stated that I liked the game, but don't believe it should be as overrated as it was. Even most of the characters. I even attacked my favorite character Yuffie >.< Poor Yuffie ;.; *huggles Yuffie* I would mention Rufus and Hojo, but those two are sorta like Barret, not overrated, not underrated.

My next target shall be...The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Wii version at least. I love the Zelda series, but this was disappointing in only a few ways. Spoilers for those who hasn't played it yet.

Oh god this game...I'd love to start with the controls.

Now, I talked to several people about this, and many agree, while others say they don't have this problem, but...when you hold up on the Control Stick, to climb up vines, shouldn't Link...like...climb, I don't know, UP?! Most of the time when Link first grabs onto vines, what does he do, climb up? No. He climbs left or right. Easy to stop and make him go up, but still annoying that Link doesn't go where you want him to.

Now, when I'm running straight, or sort of ease to the left or right, why doesn't he? He keeps going straight, leading me to get hit alot!

Also, when I'm just cutting for grass, my arm gets tired much faster than it does while I'm fighting an enemy. They should of gave an option to use a button for sword play, although thats where the Wii's controller comes into play, there AREN'T ENOUGH BUTTONS! But thats not Zelda's fault. It's Nintendo's.

Okay, now, Characters, this game had an okay variaty, but not as good as Majora's Mask. But then again, most of Majora's Mask characters sucked anyway. Most of this games characters were damn good for a Zelda game. Colin, his faster, those dunkards that help you into the last few levels, and once in Hyrule Castle, the Zora prince, not too many bad characters. I HATE that kid with the red hat though. Annoying. He wouldn't even mind letting a girl get trampled, while Colin had to go save the day. And that Green...Ogre...did he ever have a name? Anyway, he was a pretty good secondary main bad guy. Zant...okay, I'll mention Zant later...believe me...

The graphics were good, not great like everyone wants to believe, but good. Water effects would of been better if they used the Mario Sunshine water.

The Day and Night system, was annoying. Realistic to finally have to wait, but I now know why all three privious games gave us the option of changeing day and night.

The Wolf Link parts were just boreing and annoying. The Twilight Relm made me want to fall asleep every single time. Ugly, no color...may of been meant to be like that...but was it meant to put players to sleep?

Music, okay the music was great. Enough said.

Boss fights, more fun if you stand up and REALLY get into them with the Wii mote, instead of just flicking your wrist like you mostlikely do for the rest of the game.

Large explorable land, very nice.

Story? Well, the story is about a farmer, who suddenly has his friends kidnapped, and he suddenly turns into a hero and stays that way without questioning it the whole damn time. Very odd.

Zelda, as usual plays very little role. Why name the games after her if she does nothing? She had more of a role in Wind Waker.

Ganon...just wait, I'm getting to you.

Midna, now THIS was an interesting character. Screw Tingle, give us a Midna spin-off. I loved Minda. She was a total bitch, and I loved her for it. No matter how heartless and cold she was, she reminded me of me, and I love her for it ^^

The Green Ogre, I wanted to kill him for some of the things he did, but he was my favorite boss, so by the time we fought for the last time, I actually had just as much respect for him as he did for Link. I actually felt that respect as if I were Link himself, so that was awesome to feel about a game.

Zant...now THIS was sad. Nintendo has claimed all along that Ganon would be in the game in a way that we would never expect. And OMG! Zant was just Ganon's puppet! OMG we never expected him to do the same thing he did in The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past! OMG OMFingG OMG OMG OMG! That was SOOOOO UNEXPECTED OMG! Zant himself did turn out to be more interesting than Agniham. When he first took off that mouth piece, his mouth looked wickedly twisted, and I was looking forward to this villian. But once he took off the helmet...what the hell? Occocco? I HATED it at first. HATED THE HELL OUT OF IT! After awhile, it grew on me. Zelda has an evil clown character. Kefka, Joker, Reala, Alan Gabrial (Big O), Harle (Chrono Cross), Zatch Bell bad guy, Brago from same show, so many clown villians, I can't even remember them all, but they are all usually pretty interesting. Speaking of Zant, Midna tore him appart, so how did he appear in the ending? That made no sense to anyone! But Zant did have the best boss fight.

Ganon...oh yeah, I'm bad to you buddy. Ganon was good at two things, sucking and repeating himself. He did nothing new. I'm usually a fan of Ganon, but he should of just stayed the hell out of it and left the game to Zant. The Zelda boss fight...oh god, how many times have we did this fight? It was nice fighting Zelda...but god, the same fight over and over again in 5 or so Zelda games...Pig Ganon was an okay fight. Didn't suck, but he dies too early. The horse back fight, interesting concept, bad delivery. As for that last Ganon fight, it's the only time Ganon didn't suck. Although I didn't know there was a super, SUPER easy way to kill him, I had to fight him the usual way, keep dodgeing and attacking. Didn't know that if he charges at you from a distance, you could counter and get a free hit, until the 3rd time I fought this boss. The boss was pretty fun though, and it was nice to finally be able to fight the real Ganon.

The ending, like I mentioned, Zant showing up after Midna tore his body apart didn't make sense, and did Zant snap Ganon's neck? What the hell?

Midna turned out hot, but I somehow doubt we'll see her again, unless she appears in Super Smash Bros Brawl, but if she's with Wolf Link, I can tell those controls will be just as annoying as Fox is to control for me >.<

EDIT: Gah! Didn't realise I was the last one to post before I made this rant >.<

[Peanut]

*yawn* Is it December again? What is this?

[Shark]

*yawn* Is it December again? What is this?

...Meaning?

[LogicDonny]

don't mind peanut, he loves the wii version or he believes this is old, Shark I am on the same boat as you.. I dislike the wii version for the very sole reason of the controls I know you guys think I am wrong but I own the cube version and i want my zelda games in traditional control style. I don't want to have to flick my wrist to attack.

Also, you probably remember me talking how I stopped halfway through and finished many many weeks later, this is the first zelda game I believe I ever done that.. I usually finish my zelda games all the way through.The ending was ok but wasn't all that exciting.

To me this game was overhyped to a point nintendo thinking it's a masterpiece. Ha! Link to the past and Orcina of time and heck even Majora's mask are the top 3 zelda games in my book, if I had a book to write my top 3 games. :lol:

I will still get the wii version when the price drops and when I get a wii, I'm still a zelda fan and I will still play any new zelda game that comes out.

[Mr. Snackpants]

The Wolf Link parts were just boreing and annoying. The Twilight Relm made me want to fall asleep every single time. Ugly, no color...may of been meant to be like that...but was it meant to put players to sleep?

Midna, not THIS was an interesting character. Screw Tingle, give us a Midna spin-off. I loved Minda. She was a total bitch, and I loved her for it. No matter how heartless and cold she was, she reminded me of me, and I love her for it ^^


Exactly my reason for not liking this game. I hated Minda with a passion.

[Shark]

Exactly my reason for not liking this game. I hated Minda with a passion.

Thanks to your quote, I noticed a typo. I meant 'now', not 'not'. Anyway, why exactly did you hate Midna? I loved her. But it's probably my opinion. But I attacked Yuffie, and I love her too, so what am I missing about Midna?

[Peanut]

don't mind peanut, he loves the wii version

You were involved in those discussions! Do you just block stuff out of your head? I reviewed this game like two months ago!

[Shark]

Ah, so you explain what you meant. Well I reveiwed it as well now. Those are two overrated games I could think of that I've played (haven't played Halo as I've never owned an Xbox). And this topic is about overrated games, so I explained why I believe those two are overrated.

[Mr. Snackpants]

Thanks to your quote, I noticed a typo. I meant 'now', not 'not'. Anyway, why exactly did you hate Midna? I loved her. But it's probably my opinion. But I attacked Yuffie, and I love her too, so what am I missing about Midna?

Oh I read it wrong, I thought you didn't like Minda either.

I'm not sure why I loathed her the way I did. I guess I just hated her little giggle and every other noise she made. It started to drive me crazy. But the bigger reason was because she was with you as wolf link and I cried everytime Link turned into a wolf because I knew an hour of boredom was comming. So she kinda represented what I disliked about the game.

[Cure]

Thank you, I enjoyed it myself. Makes me want to rant on another game...but I don't know what. Also, a friend reminded me of something about Aeris, so I added in... "On top of that, why did her friends let her stay dead? Did they hate her THAT much? They just tossed her in the water and said ,'Well, thats over with. We didn't need or want her anymore anyway.' What the hell was their reason for letting her stay dead? I had friggin 99 Pheonix Downs dammit! I would of spared at LEAST one." in the area where I complain about Incest man killing Aeris.

Phoenix Downs don't actually revive the dead, they wake your characters up when they get knocked out.

[Shark]

Oh I read it wrong, I thought you didn't like Minda either.

I'm not sure why I loathed her the way I did. I guess I just hated her little giggle and every other noise she made. It started to drive me crazy. But the bigger reason was because she was with you as wolf link and I cried everytime Link turned into a wolf because I knew an hour of boredom was comming. So she kinda represented what I disliked about the game.

To me, Wolf Link in general represented what I disliked about the game. Midna represented a better, less annoying Navi to me.

[LogicDonny]

I remember in the old days of zelda, there was never a companion by your side, it was just you, however you had help but not like annoyance to tell you what to do every 5 sec.

[LogicDonny]

Um been a while since anyone wrote in this topic but I just have to add another series to the most overrated game ever.. it's by Koei and its the dynasty + samurai warriors series.

they have it for ps2, xbox, xbox 360, gameboy advance, psp and ps3 soon.

Koei makes good history battles but the game all look identical except for new warriors.

In fact I'm playing dynasty warriors vol. 2 and samurai warriors state of war on the psp. awesome portable games for small doses but it's so repetive but fun.

Just saying overrated to those that got tired of these games.

There is a new action game coming out called Gundam Musuo?

[MrOldSchool]

That game Karate Champ is such an overrated piece of garbage! Even the original arcade version is overrated BS.

[shellofinsanity]

over hyped well

Call of Duty - The 2nd and 3rd are nothing but Call of Duty 1 with new graphics and a worse story and feel about them, you are more a one man team in the the latter games.

Command and Conquer - Afering playing generals and the CnC 3 demo, well its safe to say all it is now is a label, it feels old, over used and boreing to me.

Doom - What to say, shoot without thought come on

CounterStrike - Its stupid, uninventive and it has a sequal, give me a break DOD 1.6 is much better

[MrOldSchool]

Yeah, I hate Doom as well. I liked it when I was younger, but not anymore, and I'm proud.

[shellofinsanity]

Yeah, I hate Doom as well. I liked it when I was younger, but not anymore, and I'm proud.

Doom was good, Doom 2 was ok, Doom 3 was doom, i mean cmon carmack its now the 21st century and we need more than shoot that guy, we want a challange not liner