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Sage Ninja
01-26-2007, 01:18 PM
Wow. I can't believe they got Lawrence Fishburne for this.

Anyway, I'm even more stoked, I just really hope they don't cut back on Mikey using his nunchuks. He's been using them in the cartoon, so theres really no reason why he shouldn't in the movie.

grrr, that had better not happen :x :x Michaelangelo's weapon of choice has always gotten discrimanted against or toned down. I'm hoping to see some really intence nunchuck action in all its whirling glory in this movie, so help me...

Shark
01-26-2007, 08:00 PM
grrr, that had better not happen :x :x Michaelangelo's weapon of choice has always gotten discrimanted against or toned down. I'm hoping to see some really intence nunchuck action in all its whirling glory in this movie, so help me...

I never did understand why Nunchucks, two sticks on a chain, are discrimenated so much. Swords and guns aren't (not as badly), but Nunchucks are. I just don't get that or why.

ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael
01-26-2007, 08:03 PM
I never did understand why Nunchucks, two sticks on a chain, are discrimenated so much. Swords and guns aren't (not as badly), but Nunchucks are. I just don't get that or why.

It' becuase the Brits fear whirly things.

Raph's Girl
01-27-2007, 01:55 PM
Hello Kevin.
I have a question about the censorship in the UK and Ireland of the Nunchucku.

Yea it's funny... Nunchucku and the word Ninja are now Ok in the Uk...but Nunchucku are still a major nono in Norway. Can't please everyone I guess. :ohwell:

Aren't swords banned in the UK?? I read a while back that cops were confiscating the swords of any citizen...even Katana and Bat'leths.

Shark
01-27-2007, 06:10 PM
I honestly don't understand what the problem with Nunchucku are. They are just two sticks on a chain. We get guns and swords in movies and such, but not Nunchucku? It makes no sense. I just don't get it.

ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael
01-27-2007, 06:14 PM
I honestly don't understand what the problem with Nunchucku are. They are just two sticks on a chain. We get guns and swords in movies and such, but not Nunchucku? It makes no sense. I just don't get it.

The Brits fear whirly things.

Raph's Girl
01-27-2007, 07:07 PM
I honestly don't understand what the problem with Nunchucku are. They are just two sticks on a chain. We get guns and swords in movies and such, but not Nunchucku? It makes no sense. I just don't get it.

What I always thought was funny was that in TMHT Mikey's nunchucks were replaced with a grappling hook. So to the Brits a weopon that can just simply bop somebody on the head was bad but hey he can use one that can skewer people! :lol:

Shark
01-27-2007, 07:18 PM
What I always thought was funny was that in TMHT Mikey's nunchucks were replaced with a grappling hook. So to the Brits a weopon that can just simply bop somebody on the head was bad but hey he can use one that can skewer people! :lol:

Exactly, I just honestly don't get the deal with the ban on Nunchucks.

Raph'N'Roll
01-27-2007, 07:33 PM
Actually the fact that the ban is in the UK, Ireland might be pretty safe from this, maybe we Irish will get the same movie as America, Nunchuks and all.

ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael
01-27-2007, 08:14 PM
Exactly, I just honestly don't get the deal with the ban on Nunchucks.

Same with NT:TNM Mikey getting tonfas. Tonfas can be just as damaging as nunchucks, even more, because you can put more force behind the blow.

comet_an_me
01-28-2007, 03:01 AM
I get really fed up with the UK rules against wether or not the TMNT can use there weapons.:evil: It really confuses me because they refused to show the 'Nunchuk chanllenge' in the first movie, yet they showed 'insane in the membrane' from the 2k3 series (I think that is what it was called) which wasnt in the US. Kids today are a lot tougher when it comes to blood and gore in movies, so flying nunchuks shoudent be a problem.


Aren't swords banned in the UK?? I read a while back that cops were confiscating the swords of any citizen...even Katana and Bat'leths.

Yep ....along with knifes and basically any sharp objects. They have something every month or so that people can had in these objects in annoyminsly (sp). But siriously one day i fear that the ban will become so bad that i wont even be able to chop up my vegtables on my dinner plate.

ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael
01-28-2007, 03:19 AM
I get really fed up with the UK rules against wether or not the TMNT can use there weapons.:evil: It really confuses me because they refused to show the 'Nunchuk chanllenge' in the first movie, yet they showed 'insane in the membrane' from the 2k3 series (I think that is what it was called) which wasnt in the US. Kids today are a lot tougher when it comes to blood and gore in movies, so flying nunchuks shoudent be a problem.




Yep ....along with knifes and basically any sharp objects. They have something every month or so that people can had in these objects in annoyminsly (sp). But siriously one day i fear that the ban will become so bad that i wont even be able to chop up my vegtables on my dinner plate.


I don't get why they're toing things down for the international audiences. TMNT is an American property anyway, so shouldn't the domestic audience come first? Besides, if the UK is just gonna edit the scenes out, theres no reason why the American audiences should be left out.

comet_an_me
01-28-2007, 03:58 AM
I don't get why they're toing things down for the international audiences. TMNT is an American property anyway, so shouldn't the domestic audience come first? Besides, if the UK is just gonna edit the scenes out, theres no reason why the American audiences should be left out.


Your right, TMNT orginatied from America, so why should the UK demand on editing the footage?

Warhorse
01-28-2007, 05:53 AM
^Good question you all. Why don't they just do two film edits. One's for the U.S., that seems to be more tolereable with weapons, as long as it's not of mass destruction, and one for the foriegners. Seems the foriegners are worried that movies may give an audience an idea to over throw corrupt government installations or something. If anyone's been taking movie to heart, than it's the government themselves. Honestly, when was the last time you saw a bank get robbed by nunchuck weilding henchmen?

Spawn Guy
01-28-2007, 09:00 AM
Your all underestimating the power of UK football mums.

Kendamu
01-28-2007, 09:57 AM
If it were me I'd probably have one long Michelangelo scene playing while the end credits are rolling that have him showing off with his nunchaku just to spite people. At the very worst, countries that don't like nunchaku could just edit out the video from the credits or something.

Aztec General
01-28-2007, 11:01 AM
It's sad and pathetic that nunchucks can't be shown in this film. That kind of random and EXTREMELY pointless censorship always makes me VERY angry! :evil: :evil:

iris
01-28-2007, 11:09 AM
It's sad and pathetic that nunchucks can't be shown in this film.
Nobody said that. We don't know all the details yet.

comet_an_me
01-28-2007, 01:17 PM
Nobody said that. We don't know all the details yet.

I asked Kevin to see if Mike would be using his Nunchukas in the new film. And said he was, but im not sure how much of them we will actually see.

Raph'N'Roll
01-28-2007, 01:54 PM
I don't think anyone can really understand the problem censors have with Nunchuks, and yeah it pisses me off too.
If they were being used by soccer hooligans, gangs and thugs, I certainly doubt that they were inspired by TMNT or Bruce Lee.
These scum will use whatever they can get their hands on, they even use baseball bats and golf clubs, and I don't see them censoring the Masters.

Kendamu
01-28-2007, 02:01 PM
When I really think about what I've seen of the new toon, Mikey's nunchaku were used but it was always implied that he hit whoever with them. From what I've seen, they never really showed him making direct contact.

Same goes for a lot of scenes in the first movie where he'd be fighting while carrying his nunchaku in hand. Most of the time he was hitting an enemy with his fist or holding both sticks and hitting them that way with the sticks (a perfectly viable technique in a realistic sense). However, I don't really remember him actually swinging and hitting someone with them (or at least attempting to) more than a couple times.

Also, we know that the production team, Mr. Laird, and Mr. Munroe are making sure that the fans will enjoy this. I'm putting my trust in them that even if the nunchaku are edited around, it's nothing worse than any other time in the US that it was only implied that Mikey hit someone with the nunchaku.

I'd still put that scene in during the credits just to spite censors, though.

First Movie:

-- Apartment Battle --

Mikey swung his chucks at two Foot Soldiers at the very beginning of the battle after the "Nunchaku Duel".

The "Wheel of Fortune" scene has Mikey holding both sticks in his hand as he spins.

The exact moment Casey busts in he hols both sticks in his hand and smacks a guy upside the head.

All other offensive maneuvers I saw on his part included multiple knees to one Foot, a punch (I think), symbols, a kick, another punch after Casey frees him from a nelson, some mostly offscreen stuff where his chucks were in his belt, and some deadly wisecracks.

-- On the Farm --

Mikey swung one stick under his armpit chambered it there (presumably after swinging it at one of his brothers while training).

He also punched a punching bag several times.

Some more practice footage where he's swinging at his brothers but never connects. He did get a good kick in on Leo, though.

The same armpit chamber was shown two more times as well.

-- In the Sewer --

Too much fog at first. It's totally implied through sound effects that the TMNT use their weapons, though.

After that he's hitting with the sticks leading a Foot Soldier back to April so she can knock him out, but the sticks are in his hands.

-- In the streets --

Punches, kicks, nunchaku strikes, but never swinging them to hit someone.

-- Rooftop --

Three swings, but he was in the background so it was hard to see.

-- Shredder --

I'm pretty sure he swung against the Shredder but I'm not going to look closely.


My point? This won't be much different than the first movie in terms of chucks usage.

iris
01-28-2007, 02:38 PM
Most of the violence in the new toon is implied-- it's not just Mikey's chucks. You never see Leo or Raph using their pointy sides of their weapons to inflict bodily damage. Don has the most freedom, IIRC.

Shark
01-28-2007, 08:08 PM
I still don't honestly see whats wrong with Nunchucks or why they are banned, or were banned in the first place! No link? No explanation? Nothing?

misnomer
01-29-2007, 03:10 AM
the reason why nunchucks are seen as "worse" by censorship is that they are deemed to be more "accessible" to children. The chances of a 5 year old running around with a katana are pretty slim, but tie two sticks together and BAM!

I know because it was all the craze on our street...one crazy kid had two thick metal bars tied together with a dog chain!

Also nunchucks are deadly enough and exert alot of pressure on whoever they hit - easily enough to break bone.

Shark
01-29-2007, 03:24 AM
The same can be said for Donatello's weapon, the bo staff. When I was a keep, and had to do some real life street fighting (mainly because there were some teens who loved running around, beating up kids, and trying to kill them), I used alot of bo staff typed reasons. Bambo sticks, the stick part of a broken hoe, trust me, that thing is easier to find that nunchucks.

iris
01-29-2007, 12:00 PM
FWIW, it's easier to do accidental damage with 'chucks than with sticks. But I don't understand the ban either. I imagine that it was some politician's way of showing that he was doing something for public safety to please his overly worried constituents.

Draconic
01-29-2007, 01:12 PM
Chucks are also far more lethal than a bo, and much easier to conceal.

ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael
01-29-2007, 03:14 PM
Chucks are also far more lethal than a bo, and much easier to conceal.

Yeah but a katana sword is more lethal than chucks, and easier to control.

Aignatius
01-29-2007, 05:12 PM
They didn't allow nunchaku demos at tournaments where I lived because they were known to break and the loose stick would fly into the audience. As far as why it wasn't in the movie, I've no clue.
Some states don't allow you to even transport any of those weapons in your car, and that includes the bo staff. I think the authorities allowed it if you proved you were going to a tournament or dojo class with them.
I don't remember the details on that, though.

Warhorse
01-29-2007, 05:19 PM
This ban on ninja weapons makes me wonder if it's just old fashion racism against Asian culture. Because you can also easily conceal a gun, and that is far more deadlier than a nunchuck.

Kendamu
01-29-2007, 05:46 PM
They didn't allow nunchaku demos at tournaments where I lived because they were known to break and the loose stick would fly into the audience. As far as why it wasn't in the movie, I've no clue.
Some states don't allow you to even transport any of those weapons in your car, and that includes the bo staff. I think the authorities allowed it if you proved you were going to a tournament or dojo class with them.
I don't remember the details on that, though.
I know that technically here in Indiana the law on swords is that you can carry one if you keep it in the sheath and in California if you can prove you're walking to or from your martial arts school for class/practice/training/etc. then they likely won't have a problem.

Katie
01-29-2007, 05:48 PM
...and nicely enough these weapons are all banned in New York state...as well as here in Tennesse (don't tell anyone i keep my kobudo weapons here ;) )

Shark
01-29-2007, 05:49 PM
This ban on ninja weapons makes me wonder if it's just old fashion racism against Asian culture. Because you can also easily conceal a gun, and that is far more deadlier than a nunchuck.

Not to mention kids can easily get their hands on guns somehow. Look at all the school shootings we hear about alot lately.

don't tell anyone i keep my kobudo weapons here ;)

Now I must tell the world! XD

Sorry, couldn't resist ^^

Katie
01-29-2007, 05:54 PM
ahhhhhhhhh but see the constitution allows for a person to have firearms....not martial arts weaponry.

There are all kinds of laws from state to state that restrict martial artists.

There is also a law here that is called "registering your hands" if you are a black belt +. I have to literally register with the city and the state about what training and schools I have been taught in...much like someone applying to carry a gun...so that if any crime is comitted (ie a murder) and it is determined that it was as the result of some martial arts prowess, they can come question me.

Draconic
01-30-2007, 08:30 AM
Get those hands out of your pockets missy! I don't allow people to conceal weapons! :x
No more hide and seek either!

Darky
01-30-2007, 09:42 PM
HEY! Have you forgot TATSU !!! Whats going on with him?

Kendamu
01-31-2007, 12:54 AM
What about him? What does he have to do with nunchaku?

Ambush
02-02-2007, 05:56 PM
Get those hands out of your pockets missy! I don't allow people to conceal weapons! :x
No more hide and seek either!

you're trying to be funny but I've seen that girl fight. she put a 250 pound 6 foot 7 dude on the ground and she's tiny...like 5 foot nothing. she's fast too. damn...I wish i knew where she practiced now. :(