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Anarky

03-08-2007, 06:04 PM

Thar be news! To cut a long story very short, since I know nobody likes to read a lot:

There is a release date for the new Star Trek movie, we just don't know it yet. All we know is that it's coming in 2008.
We have a title. The movie will be called "Star Trek"
It will be a sort of "Star Trek Begins", reimagining the whole thing.
J.J. Abrams will direct the flick.
There will be more action than in any other Star Trek film.
Other people with apparently famous names on the movie: Production designer Scott Chambliss and director of photography Daniel Mindel. I have no idea what these job descriptions stand for, but they're working hard on whatever their job is.
No Rick Berman and Brannon Braga
There will be Technobabble
And of course, everyon involved in this project is a huuuuuge fan of Star Trek and it's been their lifelong dream to make this one Star Trek picture together and all that bollocks.

There you go, lots of news. Good news if you ask me, apart from the action-bit. I'm not too sure about that yet. And re-imaginings seem to be all the rage.

Anyways, here's the article, freshly from MTV.com (http://www.mtv.com/movies/#/movies/news/articles/1554046/20070307/story.jhtml):

If Batman and Superman can be reborn, why not Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock? On Christmas Day 2008, the storied "Star Trek" franchise will begin anew on the big screen, and its creators are almost as ecstatic as the series' famously obsessive fans.

"We just got the green light! We have a release date and everything," said Alex Kurtzman, co-screenwriter of the eagerly anticipated new "Trek" adventure. Kurtzman and collaborator Roberto Orci, who are also executive producers of the project — and veterans of "Transformers" and "Mission: Impossible III" — spoke exclusively to MTV about the film Trekkies and Trekkers alike are salivating for any information on (see "An Open Letter To 'Star Trek' Director J.J. Abrams").

First things first: From the sound of it, fans can rest assured that subtitles about undiscovered countries and insurrections are a thing of the past. Kurtzman and Orci told MTV that their film is titled, quite simply, "Star Trek." "That's the intended title. I don't think we want to put any colons or anything on it," Orci said.

Thus far details have been few and far between on the film, the first since Picard and company starred in the much-maligned 2002 flick "Star Trek: Nemesis." In addition to the 2008 release date Paramount recently announced, it has been confirmed that "Lost" co-creator and "M:i:III" director J.J. Abrams will direct. Orci says he was relieved that Abrams agreed to helm the project after reading the very first draft (recent rumors indicated he would only produce).

"When we finally turned in the script I started lining up other directors, and that really got [Abrams] going," Orci joked. Rumors that the film would center on an early adventure of the crew or even on Kirk and Spock's Starfleet Academy days — unlikely, though no doubt provoked by a long-dormant "Trek" movie idea — have yet to be addressed directly.

While Kurtzman and Orci were reluctant to reveal much about the top-secret film, they did offer some hints. "There will be more action in this movie than any 'Trek' that's preceded it," Kurtzman promised. Orci, without discussing a specific budget, added, "It'll be the biggest one. The economic models of the other [films] were very much based on the fans out there and their purchasing power. With this one we're going for the broad audience to bring people into 'Trek' for the first time."

Indeed, broadening the "Trek" base seems to be foremost on the filmmakers' minds. "The challenge of the movie is to be 100 percent true to the fanbase but also to bring in a whole new group of people who've never seen 'Trek' before," Kurtzman said.

Casting has not yet officially begun on the flick, which is scheduled to film in the fall. The writers won't even confirm which characters appear. ("We never said Bones was in it," Orci seemed to joke.) As for recent rumors that Matt Damon, Adrien Brody and Gary Sinise were being considered to play the storied Kirk, Spock and McCoy trio, the duo were reluctant to spill the beans. Asked if they would be happy if Kirk were played by Damon, a long pause followed. Finally Kurtzman allowed, "I'm the hugest Matt Damon fan ever. If he became [Kirk], great."

The mantra of "Who can say?" became Kurtzman and Orci's standard deflection. Will William Shatner or Leonard Nimoy appear? "Really, who can say?" Is the film, as rumors suggest, focused on Kirk and Spock, with supporting characters relegated to the background? "Really, who can say?" Is the old "Trek" plot device of time travel involved? You can guess the answer: "Really, who can say?"

What they will say, however, is that the film will be a starship-based adventure. "I don't know how you make 'Star Trek' without a starship," Orci laughed. "You have to trek through the stars, so you need a ship for that. There, you got something out of us!"

Orci and Kurtzman also confirmed that the film is not in any way a prequel but a reimagining of the franchise. Whether that means a whole new look for "Trek" remains in question. "We're not going to start totally from scratch," Orci said. "We want it to feel like it's updated and of the now. That's actually the discussions we're having now: how to keep the look of the universe yet have it not look like nothing's new. It's tricky."

The duo added that the same production team that assisted them and Abrams on "Alias" and "M:i:III" will join them for "Star Trek," including production designer Scott Chambliss and director of photography Daniel Mindel.

Of course any "Trek" fan worth his salt knows this is a huge change of direction for the franchise in every respect. Since "Star Trek: The Next Generation" premiered in 1987, the brand has been watched over by vets like Rick Berman and Brannon Braga, neither of whom is involved with the new film. Orci and Kurtzman have nothing but praise for the "Next Generation" years, calling it some of the best writing on television. "We just hope they bless us," Kurtzman said.

Speaking of the old guard, Shatner and Nimoy recently visited with Orci, Kurtzman and Abrams. According to the writers, the meetings went well. "It was pretty much the most stressful thing ever, but it was wonderful," Kurtzman said. "They were amazing."

For the longtime friends and collaborators the "Trek" assignment has been both weighty and exciting. While both claim to be big fans of all things "Trek," Orci clearly is the senior Trekker of the team. "I am a crazy fan," Orci said.

"Here's a frame of reference for you," Kurtzman added. "When I first met Bob, he had an Enterprise phone."

All of which made Paramount's offer of no limits and no stipulations too good to pass up. "They were just like, what would you do with 'Star Trek'?" Orci recalled. "We've been watching ['Trek'] all our lives. I've even read the books. It was all about, what have I always wanted to see in 'Trek'?"

Orci and Kurtzman believe their script adheres to the original vision put forth by creator Gene Roddenberry more than 40 years ago. " 'Trek,' more than anything, has always been about the human interactions," Orci said. "It's all about the human soul."

"And the friendships," Kurtzman added. "And everyone being a family. Whatever the story was, we always knew what it had to feel like."

And if all else failed, there was one "Trek" staple to fall back on. So fear not, fans of photon torpedoes and dilithium crystals, Kurtzman's got your back. "I actually love the technobabble!" he said. "I don't think you can do 'Trek' without technobabble."

DrSpengler

03-08-2007, 06:22 PM

So why's everyone calling this Star Trek 11 when it's a reboot?

Anyhow, I'm sure I'll see it. I'm by no means a Star Trek fan; I think the only film I've ever seen is Generations. Still, since they're starting from scratch, this seems like a good enough place to jump in.

LogicDonny

03-08-2007, 06:38 PM

First star trek movie i went to see was Star trek 4. I seen them all in theatres watched every series on tv and can't wait for the new one.

Those who are new to star trek, this is a good time any to watch the new movie.

I bet you if the movies does really well, they might do another series.

Anarky

03-08-2007, 07:17 PM

Sorry, Spengler, I fixed the title, I simply overlooked that. And I believe they'll keep on calling it Star Trek XI until the PR-time's come. Then they'll be more or less forced to call it by its name.

DrSpengler

03-08-2007, 07:44 PM

Yeah, after I made that post I thought about it and remembered that people were calling Batman Begins "Batman 5" for the longest time and Superman Returns "Superman 5" as well. No worries.

ZariusTwo

03-08-2007, 11:29 PM

Well, since Casino Royale proved reboots are'nt always a bad thing, I'm open to a flexable idea, but this IS from the same hack behind LOST, so I won't hold my breath

Raph's Girl

07-24-2007, 06:49 PM

Zachary Quinto (Sylar on "Heroes") has been reportadly cast as Spock in the new Star Trek film. J.J Abrahms will be officially announcing this at Comic Con. I for one can't picture Sylar as my Spock.... He's nowhere near as hot as Leonard Nimoy. Hrm...maybe tho he'll look cute with Vulcan ears..... :ohwell:

http://www.trektoday.com/news/240707_01.shtml
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07204/803854-352.stm

Anarky

07-24-2007, 07:01 PM

Raph's Girl

07-24-2007, 07:12 PM

BILBO BAGGINS! Can't you please use already existing threads for your amazing news. I'll let you in on a secret tool of the boards if you do: The Drome Thread Locator! (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/search.php) I'm quite honestly sick and tired of cleaning up after you.

Sorry... I do search for exsisting threads. There's just times when I can't find it in the search. :/

Anyways... I played around in Paint Shop Pro with an image of Zachary Quinto, turning him into the best er Vulcan look I could do. Dude looks weird with pointy ears.

Before:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/Dierna/Star%20Trek%2011/ZQuinto.jpg

After:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/Dierna/Star%20Trek%2011/SylarSpock.jpg

gobo

07-24-2007, 07:33 PM

:teek: SMILING VULCAN!! That's illegal, right?

Raph's Girl

07-24-2007, 07:39 PM

:teek: SMILING VULCAN!! That's illegal, right?

*lol*... Spock's half human and he's smiled before so no it's not illegal. :P

PipingPringle

07-24-2007, 07:43 PM

Raph's Girl, you are my hero for that manip!

I haven't even heard of this movie! I'm such a bad trekkie. I should make a bigger effort to be in the loop :(

mattmanw54301

07-24-2007, 08:54 PM

From what I have been hearing recently, this will actually be a prequel to TOS, kinda like George Lucas did with Star Wars. Except hopefully this one WONT suck.

Anyhow, all hardcore Trek fans are breathing huge sighs of relief that Matt Damon is NOT Kirk, and Ben Affleck is NOT Spock. Both of those were the early rumors, which would have caused widespread panic and riots all over the world if they were true.

And Quinto, meh. He could be good. I don't watch Heroes, so I have no idea of his acting ability.

Raph's Girl

07-24-2007, 10:21 PM

From what I have been hearing recently, this will actually be a prequel to TOS, kinda like George Lucas did with Star Wars. Except hopefully this one WONT suck.

Yes it's a prequel to TOS....it's Star Trek: 90210 cuz it features Spock, Kirk, McCoy, and Scotty at Starfleet Academy. It's how they met and stuff. In the original script that was written some 15 years ago (I've read it), it had McCoy recounting back in flashbacks to some students on how he met his crewmates at the Academy. Unfortunatly since then De Kelley has died.

I have heard that Leonard Nimoy (Spock) is to tell the story now. Shatner's reportadly not too thrilled that Spock got the cameo and not him. Especially since Nimoy is supposadly retired from acting. :roll:

ZariusTwo

07-25-2007, 01:08 AM

Raph's Girl

07-25-2007, 01:13 AM

Suffice to say, a Vulcan Mind-Meld is peanuts compared to Silar's answer to it

Now aint that the truth!! :lol:

Spike Spiegel

07-25-2007, 12:05 PM

I'm rather excited about this. All the casting i've heard so far seems ok.

I'll keep my eye on this one...

Raph's Girl

07-26-2007, 09:12 PM

Aaaaand it's official. Sylar is Spock and Leonard Nimoy's coming out of retirement to play Old Spock in the new Star Trek movie! Talk about double your pleasure, double your fun! 2 Spocks!! Muaha! *drools* :evilgrin:

They are also trying to figure out a spot for Shatner to be in the movie.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33460

Here's a piccie from Comic Con of the 2 Spocks together:

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/CCspocks.JPG

Barkworm

07-27-2007, 12:58 AM

Holy sh*s, Nimoy looks ancient! About Quinto... Well, I love "Heroes" but almost every actor in it is in Jessica Alba's league as far as talent is concerned. I'm officially worried.

gobo

07-27-2007, 07:58 AM

O_o That doesn't look like any Nimoy I'm familliar with...

Time Mistress

07-27-2007, 09:49 PM

I think "Sylar" is a good choice for Spock. I don't like the idea of a Star Trek reboot.:roll: Isn't there *anything* these days that can remain in continuity without the need for a reboot.:x I also don't like that McCoy won't have as big a part as Kirk or Spock. That said, I think J.J. is a great choice for a director. I love Alias and Lost and trust him to bring the "core essance" of Trek to the big screen despite everything else. And I look forward to seeing Greg Grumburg as a the first Klingon or red shirt who gets killed in the film too.;)

Raph's Girl

07-27-2007, 10:26 PM

I also don't like that McCoy won't have as big a part as Kirk or Spock.

Huh?? What do you mean McCoy won't have as big a part?? The big 4 will be in it (Kirk, Scotty, Spock, McCoy) as it's a Starfleet Academy movie. It's about how they all met and stuff.

ZariusTwo

07-28-2007, 02:25 AM

I have no love for Abrams. Alias and Lost nosedived when he did'nt pay attention to them, and M:I III really scored less on th radar. His Superman script is also more infamous than Kevin Smith's giant-spider and polar bear fight fest (Olsen is gay, Luthor is Kryptonian)

I don't even trust his new "cryptic" movie to be anything but bad eggs. He's simply the most overrated director in Hollywood right now.

Brodie

07-28-2007, 02:39 AM

In regards to the Kevin Smith note, Zarius, you know that was because he kept getting notes from Jon Peters, right? Check out Evening With Kevin Smith for the story :

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vgYhLIThTvk

Raph's Girl

08-05-2007, 01:56 PM

Check it out...the casting list for Star Trek. We already know that Spock was cast (Sylar!) but now here's the casting call. Looks like the TOS cast are all supposed to be the same age now... WTF?

According to the OFFICIAL source (the official ST site):
Lesse... Kirk was born in 2233, McCoy was born in 2227, Scotty was born in 2222, Uhura was born in 2239, Spock was born in 2230 and Sulu in 2237. Notice something here? So sure lets break continuity and have em all be the same fraking age. They can't even have Chekov in it since he was born in 2245.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33582

STAR TREK
Feature Film
SAG
PARAMOUNT PICTURES/BAD ROBOT

[JAMES KIRK] 23-29 Handsome,cocky self assured and earnest. Great physical condition. 6 ft or less

[LEONARD(BONES)MCOY] -28-32 Medic on the Enterprise. Smart, clever and a bit danger-loving. Dark hair, blue eyes.

[UHURA] 25ish -African American. Brilliant, beautiful, heroic and FUN!, Uhura is almost tom-boyish - as if she grew up in a houseful of brothers.

[SULU] 25-32 -Asian American male (preferably Japanese). Helmsman on the Enterprise. Extremely fit, capable and dedicated. A bit of a wildcat

[MONTGOMERY(SCOTTY) SCOTT] -28-32 a brilliant ship's engineer. Must be able to do a flawless Scottish accent!

Anarky

08-05-2007, 05:35 PM

[MONTGOMERY(SCOTTY) SCOTT] -28-32 a brilliant ship's engineer. Must be able to do a flawless Scottish accent while being constantly drunk!
There, I fixed the glitch the Star Trekkers made.

Raph's Girl

08-05-2007, 06:25 PM

There, I fixed the glitch the Star Trekkers made.

:lol: Like it even matters... Scotty's never been played by an actual Scottish person...so why start now?? I mean come on.. James Doohan was Canadian! :roll:

Time Mistress

08-05-2007, 06:53 PM

Huh?? What do you mean McCoy won't have as big a part?? The big 4 will be in it (Kirk, Scotty, Spock, McCoy) as it's a Starfleet Academy movie. It's about how they all met and stuff.

I heard somewhere (Trek Nation I think) that it was going to be a "big 2" movie with the main focus on Kirk and Spock, but I could have heard wrong.

Raph's Girl

08-08-2007, 02:22 PM

Well folks.. Chekov has been cast....yes that's right...Chekov... He's played by child actor Anton Yelchin (he's 18 but looks much younger).

Now I don't really see a problem with this casting since he's a kid and Chekov was always the youngest...but..I don't remember Chekov having such curly hair. :lol:

Here's a pic of him:
http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/jjcheckov.jpg

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33612

Raph's Girl

09-18-2007, 03:43 PM

Looks like we have an Uhura! Altho some reports are saying she's in final negotiations, Veriaty and The Hollywood Reporter are both reporting that Zoe Saldana is indeed confirmed as playing Uhura. She is currently filming the new James Cameron movie, Avatar.

Oddly enough she played a Trekkie in a Tom Hanks movie...

http://trekmovie.com/2007/09/17/saldana-is-new-uhura/

Raph's Girl

10-09-2007, 10:33 PM

And we have a villian! Eric Bana! Grrr!!! Hulk Smash Kirk!

The villain in the new Star Trek film will be played by an Australian, but not Russell Crowe. Trek’s new bad guy will be played by Eric Bana, star of the 2005 Steven Spielberg film Munich . According to StarTrek.com the 38 year-old Aussie will be playing a character called ‘Nero,’ but no other details have been provided. A source tells TrekMovie.com that Nero is a Romulan. The name fits with Trek’s penchant for portraying the Romulan Empire as a futuristic version of ancient Rome.

The new Star Trek will not be Bana’s first forray into genre films as he stared in the 2003 Hulk film as the the ultimate guy you do not want to get angry…Bruce Banner. Bana’s career spanning thirteen feature films seems to give him plenty of experience to play the role. He has played a stone cold bad guy (Chopper), a Roman (Romulas, My Father) and a time-travller (The Time Traveler’s Wife). He won the Australian Film Institute Best Actor award for the title role in Chopper [highly recommended for a rental by TrekMovie.com]. Bana is currently filming The Time Traveler’s Wife, but apparently there is no confict with the Trek shoot which starts in a month.

http://trekmovie.com/2007/10/09/eric-bana-to-be-star-trek-villain/

Raph's Girl

10-12-2007, 01:47 AM

Aaand we have a Sulu and a Scotty (darnit!! Paul McGillion wasn't picked :( )

http://trekmovie.com/2007/10/11/simon-pegg-pegged-for-scotty

Variety is reporting that British actor, writer and comedian Simon Pegg has won the role of Montgomery ‘Scotty’ Scott in J.J. Abrams’ Star Trek.

Raph's Girl note: The only things I've seen him in is Doctor Who and Band of Brothers....

According to sources Korean born actor John Cho has been tipped to be the new Hikaru Sulu for the new Star Trek. Cho is probably best known as a comedy actor for his roles in Harold and Kumar Go To White Castle and American Pie.

http://trekmovie.com/2007/10/11/john-cho-is-the-new-sulu

gobo

10-12-2007, 02:35 AM

Isn't Simon Pegg Shaun from Shaun of the Dead?

Raph's Girl

10-12-2007, 04:21 AM

Isn't Simon Pegg Shaun from Shaun of the Dead?

Indeed he is. Many people know him mostly for that and other comedy work he's done. Gonna be interesting to see how he does as Scotty.

Hero

10-12-2007, 10:29 AM

Simon Pegg in Star Trek will be awesome!

===HERO

Raph's Girl

10-12-2007, 01:30 PM

Simon Pegg has been aproved by Chris Doohan (who himself auditioned for the role) and John Cho has been aproved by George Takei (who apperantly is a big fan of the actor).

John Cho meanwhile is also the lead singer of the group, Left of Zed. U can hear their songs here:
http://leftofzed.com/

Unlike Shatner....he can actually sing!

Mr._Mutant_Man

10-13-2007, 01:28 AM

This is shaping up to be a great cast. Might get me interested in Star Trek again. I haven't really been a big fan since about 2001. I still love most of the movies though.

gobo

10-13-2007, 10:02 AM

Raph's Girl

10-13-2007, 10:09 AM

By "approved", you mean "verified", right?

No.. the original actors liked who got picked to play the characters. Altho every news network has now verified the picks.

Now to wait for em to cast McCoy and Kirk.

Raph's Girl

10-15-2007, 05:18 PM

Aaaand Chris Pine has been reportadly cast as Capt Kirk http://trekmovie.com/2007/10/15/pine-apparently-confirmed-for-kirk

Chris Pine is 27 (AAH!! Capt Kirk is 8 months younger than me!! Freaky! :o ) and is a 3rd generation actor. What's interesting is he's a 2nd Generation TREK actor as his father, Robert Pine, has been on eps of Enterprise and Voyager.

Raph's Girl

10-18-2007, 12:05 PM

Aaand Karl Urban has been cast as Dr. McCoy!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071018/film_nm/startrek_dc_1

Now...who here can picture Eomer saying "He's dead, Jim!" ? :ohwell:

Buslady

10-20-2007, 12:57 PM

Simon is gonna be cool...he was the Editor in the DrWHO eppie: The Long Game.
At least he's a brit...now I dunno if he is a Scot tho...they coulda had David do it, he's a scot! lol...no just kiddin..he doesnt look the part. I'm glad someone from DW got in on the fun.

Raph's Girl

11-01-2007, 04:48 PM

Michael Giacchino, who is set to compose the score for J.J. Abrams' upcoming Star Trek movie, told SCI FI Wire that he will retain at least the opening theme music from the original series, by Alexander Courage.

"I think that the thing to do would be to hold on to the only thing that does speak—that says Star Trek—universally, which is the [opening theme from the original series]," Giacchino said in an interview while promoting the upcoming release of Ratatouille on DVD, for which he also composed the music.

Giacchino also revealed a few details about the top-secret film's plot and how the theme music fits in. "To me, that fanfare, boom, that says it all right there," he said. "And this film is about everything that came before that. So, yes, I want to keep that. But everything that was done after that, it shouldn't be about that. It needs to be about these characters now and how they met and all of these things. So it's a very kind of specific place and time."

Giacchino has worked with Star Trek director Abrams on the television series Alias and continues to compose music for Abrams' ABC series Lost. He said that his approach to the Star Trek score will be guided by Abrams' vision for the film.

"I love working with J.J., and I know that he'll make it something special, so I have no doubt that there'll be something there that'll inspire me," Giacchino said. "I don't know what it's going to be, so I still have that anticipation about it."

But Giacchino admitted that he is daunted by the prospect of following in the footsteps of such Trek film composers as James Horner and Jerry Goldsmith.

"I grew up listening to all of that great [Trek] music, and that's part of what inspired me to do what I'm doing," Giacchino said. "So, yeah, it's horrifying to think that I've got to go and stand in line with those guys." He added: "You just go in scared. You just hope you do your best. It's one of those things where the film will tell me what to do." Star Trek is scheduled for release on Dec. 25, 2008

Raph's Girl

11-06-2007, 10:18 PM

Casting is now open for extras for Star Trek. They are looking for Vulcans and cadets.

The secret name for the film is apperantly Corporate Headquarters. :lol:

Corporate Headquarters
Feature Film: SAG
Info: For the way Cool Sci-Fi Feature Film titled “Corporate Headquarters” we are seeking the following SAG and Non-Union Background Talent:

Currently Seeking:
Thin, regal talent who have BROWN or BLACK hair AND are OK with their eyebrows being shaved from the arch outward to portray a “Vulcan type” eyebrow shape.

In General We Need:
Thin, Athletic, Men and Women, Ages 18-90 - Specific Descriptions of These Types Below:
Especially seeking talent with interesting and unique facial features, such as: long necks, small heads, extremely large heads, wide-set eyes, bug eyes, close-set eyes, large forehead, short upper lip, pronounced cheekbones, over- or undersized ears and/or nose, facial deformities, ultra plain-looking people, ultra perfect-looking people, pure wholesome looks, twins, triplets, emaciated talent, in addition to regally poised and postured talent.

More specifically for Saturday’s open call in Burbank, CA they are looking for a few good cadets:

Seeking the following types, ages 18-70, any ethnicity:

Cadets: young, fresh-faced

Military types: marching experience preferred

Talent with interesting and unique facial features such as: long necks, small heads, extremely large heads, wide-set eyes, bug eyes, close-set eyes, large forehead, short upper lip, pronounced cheekbones, over- or undersized ears and/or nose, facial deformities, ultra plain-looking people, ultra perfect-looking people, pure wholesome looks, twins, triplets, emaciated talent, regally poised and postured talent, or other visually unique characteristics

Everyone must be thin, athletic, fit; wardrobe will be form-fitting. All hair lengths on males and females welcome

So basically if you're a circus freak or mutant you can be in the movie.... :lol:

More info can be found here:
http://headquarterscasting.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=91

Raph's Girl

11-09-2007, 05:36 PM

Winona Ryder has reportadly been cast as Spock's mommy, Amanda.

WTF?! She's only a couple years older than Sylar!

http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/08/winona-ryder-is-amanda-grayson

Canadian actor Bruce Greenwood has been reporadly cast as Capt Pike. Captain of the Enterprise..

http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/07/bruce-greenwood-is-pike

Raph's Girl

11-13-2007, 01:50 AM

Check it out!! Check it out!!! It's Zach Quinto in full Spock make-up!!! Dude!!! Mm... pointy ears look good on him... There are several pics on that site.

The scene the pics are of is on Vulcan. Spock is on trial for some reason in front of the Vulcan council. The scene was filmed at Sky Rose Chapel in Whittier, California.

http://www.jfxonline.com/jfxonline/2007/11/12/exclusive-quinto-as-young-spock/

Raph's Girl

11-14-2007, 07:42 AM

Eric Bana (Nero) now has a sidekick! Clifton Collins, Jr. has signed on to play Ayel, “the cohort and general to Nero.”

Also 24 year old Australian actor Chris Hemsworth has signed on to play George Kirk Sr (father of Capt Kirk).

http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/13/collins-joins-trek-hemsworth-confirmed

Raph's Girl

11-19-2007, 12:52 PM

59 year old actor Ben Cross has been cast as Sarek. About the only thing I've seen him in was Chariot's of Fire. *L*

Recently he's been in Species: The Awakening with Dominic Keating (which is being played constantly on tv...I should watch it), Hannibal with Alexander Siddig, and Grendel with Marina Sirtis.

http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/18/ben-cross-is-sarek

Raph's Girl

11-20-2007, 02:22 PM

A French website has more images from the filming in Whittier last week. Including some of Zach Quinto smiling.....which is freaky.... :o

http://buzzline.fr/index.php/?gallery/cinema/sur-le-plateau-de-star-trek#gallery

http://buzzline.fr/images/galeries/spock-bis/star-trek-05.PV__.jpg

Dr. Doom

11-20-2007, 04:49 PM

Nice septuple post.

He actually looks the part pretty well.

Aelia

11-21-2007, 12:58 AM

Wow, he does look the part. The stubble is kinda bothering me though.

Raph's Girl

12-01-2007, 07:07 PM

The first trailer for Star Trek is reportadly attached to the JJ Abrams monster movie Cloverfield.

Of course this basically means the trailor will be online around January 18th. :D

Either way I'll be going to see Cloverfield. Even if the Star Trek trailer wasn't attached. I love monster movies.

http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/30/star-trek-teaser-coming-with-cloverfield/

Raph's Girl

12-11-2007, 09:29 AM

Some new pics are up!! They're filming in Orange County this week and one of the scenes was reportadly a Starfleet academy graduation in some hanger. There's also shots of an Orion slave girl... :o

Check out the (rather blury) images of Chris Pine as a red shirt James Kirk and an Orion Slave Girl (well...she's green at least).

http://www.jfxonline.com/jfxonline/2007/12/10/kirk-and-the-orion-slave-girl/

Raph's Girl

12-17-2007, 08:34 PM

Casting News:

http://trekmovie.com/2007/12/17/nichols-is-an-orion-morrison-is-winona-kirk/

Jennifer Morrison (Dr. Cameron on House) has been confirmed as playing James Kirk's mommy, Winona (who's apperantly pregnant in the film).

Rachel "No relation to Nichelle" Nichols (Rachel Gibson on Alies) is playing an Orion. The leaked images of the Orion tho are not her.

Raph's Girl

12-25-2007, 11:12 AM

According to trekmovie.com they got a tip from a very reliable source that the new Star Trek movie involves a scene or two with....Tribbles! Weee!! :lol:

Raph's Girl

12-30-2007, 04:53 PM

UGO is reporting that Tyler Perry has been cast as the head of Starfleet Academy (the Dean? )

http://trekmovie.com/2007/12/29/tyler-perry-to-appear-in-star-trek/

According to the UGO report Perry’s big scene is overseeing an assembly at Starfleet Academy where Kirk (Chris Pine) is facing expulsion for cheating on the Kobayashi Maru. Apparently Pine delivers a stirring Kirk-esque speech and then discovers that the person who ratted him out was none other than Spock himself

Raph's Girl

01-17-2008, 04:26 PM

Paramount has created a website for Star Trek. The trailer will be placed there on Monday. However you'll be able to see it starting tomarrow if you go to the theatre to see Cloverfield!

http://www.paramount.com/startrek/

Meanwhile the first pics have come out of the Enterprise NCC 1701 (no bloody A, B, C, D or E)

She's under construction

http://trekmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/star-trek-uss-enterprise-b.gif

Raph's Girl

01-18-2008, 04:34 PM

MUAHA!! I had a feeling that the trailer would be leaked!!

And that's Leonard Nimoy saying "Space, the final frontier!"

See it here before it dissapears!
http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/18/review-star-trek-teaser-trailer/

Raph's Girl

01-21-2008, 03:27 PM

Ok folks.. the official trailer is now up. There's a trailer for Americans and a trailer for the UK (who apperantly get it on Dec 26th).

http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/21/star-trek-teaser-trailer-online-now

And if you go here: http://www.ncc-1701.com/ You can see a secret web cam of the Enterprise being built at the shipyard... :*plays around with the web cams so they're in focus* :o

Raph's Girl

01-22-2008, 05:02 PM

http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/22/star-trek-looking-for-little-people/

The extras casting agency working on the new Star Trek movie is currently seeking little people for background work on film. They are specifically looking for men and women who are 4′4″ or shorter (age range 18-60, any ethnicity). It is not an open casting (like the one in October), but being done using Hollywood casting notices. The actors are required for shooting in mid-March.

4ft 4in or shorter?! Darn!! Foiled again! Dangit.. Im 5in too tall to be in Star Trek!! ARGH!!!! Why couldn't they be looking for people who are 4ft 9in or shorter?! Fiddlesticks! :ohwell:

Raph's Girl

01-29-2008, 07:12 PM

In addition to the 3 Spock's in the movie (dunno who's playing Kid Spock) looks like there'll be 2 James Kirk's. 12 year old actor Jimmy Bennet has been cast as Young Kirk while 15 year old Spencer Daniels has been cast as young George Kirk (Jim Kirk's bro). Seems there'll be alot of jumping thru time in this film

http://trekmovie.com/2008/01/29/meet-the-young-kirk-boys/

Brodie

01-29-2008, 08:41 PM

I really like how you have like 12 posts in a row.

Raph's Girl

02-14-2008, 12:09 AM

*sighs* An interesting bit o news. Seems that now that the writer's strike is over all the big wigs are looking at their upcoming films and doing some reshuffling. Therefore Star Trek is NOT gonna be out this Christmas. Instead it'll be out May 8th, 2009. This MIGHT be a good thing cuz then they can do some good work on it instead of being harried. But..we'll see.

http://trekmovie.com/2008/02/13/breaking-news-star-trek-pushed-to-may-2009/

Dr. Doom

02-14-2008, 12:40 AM

I really like how you have like 12 posts in a row.

Do you?

Do you really like that?

I don't think you do at all.

I think you're lying to us.

>:[

Raph's Girl

07-23-2008, 04:26 PM

This is for all those who've wanted to see Zack Quinto as Spock.

http://img.trekmovie.com/images/ewspock1.jpg

U can see images of Capt Kirk, Uhura, and Nero as well at startrekmovie.com

ZariusTwo

11-15-2008, 12:36 PM

The trailer

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Mandi-chan

11-15-2008, 08:34 PM

I, for one, am pleased by what we just saw in that trailer. Would have been even happier if Simon Pegg were shown more though :D.

It looks exciting, and I can't wait to see it!

cqb101

11-16-2008, 04:27 PM

Saw the trailer with Quantum and Solace and was blown away. It jumped to the top of my "must see" list of next year.

Raph's Girl

11-17-2008, 12:32 PM

As I didn't wanna see the leaked version of the trailer I was patient and waited for it to be online. I waited and waited....and like everyone else on the movie forum got totally pissed when 10am passed and the fraking timer started to count UP. Like WTF?!

So Paramount lied. It's not on the official site. But at least it's on Apple's....:roll:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/startrek/index.html

An interesting trailer to say the least. Some typical Sarek stuff telling Spock that basically he's a freak and always will be. I loved Simon Pegg's Scottish accent tho.

The beginning reminded me a bit of a typical old action film. Except it was James T. Kirk driving the car (that apperantly belongs to his evil uncle/step-father thingy). The cop chasing him kinda reminded me of an old school Cylon mixed with Robocop.

The transporter effects tho...extremely weird.... McCoy "Space is disease and danger wrapped in silence and darkness!"....

I wonder what that monster is tho? Meep! :o

Edit: Well 30 min later and they change the look of the site. Only the trailer isn't on the site itself. Nope...the link goes directly to the Apple site. Whatever....Love the new design of the site.

Raph's Girl

11-25-2008, 02:28 PM

Exclusive! Exclusive!!! :o

U've seen the trailer but now there's a little bonus!! This is the new trailer... same stuff at the beginning but with a little extra added to the end.:o

http://downloads.paramount.com/mp/startrek/Trlr2_i nternet_480p.mov

Squee!!! :evilgrin:

Anarky

11-25-2008, 05:53 PM

Hardly an exclusive when it's on the official site, is it?

Again, when being a newsreporter, please get your journalist-language correct. You're not only making yourself look like one of these people who hang out on tenthousand messageboards all the time, waiting for something to happen to post it on the other 9999, but, and that's worse...

You're compromising the integrity of the news itself. And that shouldn't happen. Ever.

Barkworm

11-25-2008, 10:32 PM

I don't know what to think abou this movie. It doesn't feel like Star Trek so far. Like, at all.
And actors like Zachary Quinto should be banned from this world. I'm not kidding.

Jester

11-25-2008, 10:57 PM

Did I just wait 5 minutes for this thing to load, skip to the end to be "treated" to Nimoy? Weak!

Peanut

11-25-2008, 11:04 PM

Again, when being a newsreporter, please get your journalist-language correct. You're not only making yourself look like one of these people who hang out on tenthousand messageboards all the time, waiting for something to happen to post it on the other 9999, but, and that's worse...

You're compromising the integrity of the news itself. And that shouldn't happen. Ever.

Dude...shut the hell up. I dislike Raph's Girl as much as the next person on this forum, but why do you have to take all this sh*t so seriously?

On topic, as a Star Wars fan, I hate Star Trek, but this trailer looked bangin', son.

Barkworm

11-26-2008, 08:11 AM

On topic, as a Star Wars fan, I hate Star Trek, but this trailer looked bangin', son.
I think that's exactly the point why I disliked the trailer. It somehow looks more like Star Wars than Star Trek (I like both, by the way). Star Trek has always been more laid-back and less epic than Star Wars.

Jester

11-26-2008, 04:48 PM

Exactly, Star Trek tries to just be "Earth's possible future" not "a long time ago in a galaxy far away." (BTW: I like both, but Trek was my first love of the 2.)

Raph's Girl

12-11-2008, 06:45 PM

Muaha!! Yay!! They got Majel Barrett-Roddenberry to voice the ships in Star Trek!!! YES!! Wouldn't be Star Trek without her voice. :D

http://www.mania.com/majel-barrettroddenberry-voices-star-trek-enterprise-again_article_111709.html

Ryona

12-11-2008, 09:35 PM

I've never been a huge fan of both Star Trek and Star Wars, but since I found out this movie has Winona Ryder and Zachary Quinto so far, I'll be catching it.

Anyone got a list of the complete cast?

Jester

12-11-2008, 09:36 PM

Winona Ryder's in it?

Raph's Girl

12-11-2008, 10:11 PM

Winona Ryder's in it?

Yep. Winona Ryder is Spock's mom, Amanda.

Full cast:
Zachary Quinto Mr. Spock
Leonard Nimoy older Mr. Spock
Chris Pine James T Kirk
Karl Urban Dr. Leonard ‘Bones’ McCoy
Simon Pegg Montgomery ‘Scotty’ Scott
John Cho Hikaru Sulu
Anton Yelchin Pavel Chekov
Zoe Saldana Uhura
Bruce Greenwood Capt. Christopher Pike
Eric Bana Nero
Clifton Collins, Jr. General Ayel
Lucia Rijker Romulan Comm. Officer
Ben Cross Sarek
Winona Ryder Amanda Grayson
Chris Hemsworth George Samuel Kirk Sr.
Jennifer Morrison Winona Kirk
Jimmy Bennett Adolescent Jim Kirk
Spencer Daniels Adolescent George Kirk Jr.
Jacob Kogan Adolescent Spock
Faran Tahir Captain Robau
Rachel Nichols Unknown Orion
Tyler Perry Starfleet Academy Chief
Greg Ellis Chief Engineer Olsen
Marlene Forte Transporter Chief
Sonita Henry Starfleet Doctor
Kelvin Yu Starfleet Medical Tech
Paul F. Thompson Security officer
Darlena Teijeiro Unknown
William Morgan Sheppard Unknown
Jeffrey Hauser Unknown
Paul McGillion Unknown
Randy Pausch Unknown Starfleet Officer
James Cawley Unknown Starfleet Officer
Chris Doohan Unknown Starfleet Officer
Jeffery Quinn Unknown Vulcan
Majel Barrett Roddenberry Computer Voice

Chris Doohan is supposed to be either an engineer or in the transporter room. This'll be the 2nd trek movie for him. He was in the 1st one in a crowd scene.

Jester

12-11-2008, 10:13 PM

Hmmm....I dunna...then again, Amanda doesn't seem like a major role.

Warhorse

02-08-2009, 08:33 PM

Out of curosity, any of you see the trailer for this during the Superbowl?

And it looks like Paramount might have quite a titanic blockbuster summer, what with this, and another little movie they got coming out!

PS, I liked the cast they picked for this. I saw the pics in an issue of Entertainment Weekly a few months ago, and it were those images that sparked my interest in this movie. I'm more of a Star Wars fan and TOS, but the atmosphere painted from the few trailers looks to be up my alley!

ThirdMarioBro

02-08-2009, 11:26 PM

I saw enough of the trailer to realize I need to change the channel stat. That's not a knock at the movie at all. I just came to the realization a long time ago that trailers only do two things. (1) Spoil half a movie before you see it, and (2) completely misrepresent the movie in every imaginable way. I quit intentionally watching trailers a while back.

There isn't a lot they can do to screw this up in my opinion. I've been a Trek fan pretty much my whole life as well, so it's not like I'm not aware of the dangers at hand. But I also realize that the histories of these characters are pretty vague. There's certain historical points that must be upheld, but beyond that it's pretty flexible. As long as they don't try to rewrite history (*coughBorgOnEnterprisecough*) then we won't have many problems. Besides, I'd like Star Trek to grow up for once and realize that they don't need to keep making the bridge of the classic-era ships look like they crawled out of the 60's to appease nostalgia freaks. It was funny on the Tribbles episode of DS9, and Enterprise got away with it because the whole "Through the Mirror" thing was basically just for fun anyway, but that's enough. No more viewfinder science stations and plastic floppy disks. You've got special effects now. Use them. All I care about is the historical continuance. They can blow up as much stuff as they want.

And the first person to come out of the theater and complain about them "sexing it up" gets a kick in the balls. James Kirk left a trail of sperm across the solar system, and broke the interracial TV barrier. Deep Space Nine got dumped by many conservative TV stations (see: every CBS affiliate) because they had a fetish with kissing lesbians. There are countless other examples.

Majel Roddenberry as the computer voice will also go a long way to make me feel at home. Sadly, it will be her final role seeing as she passed away in December.

Raph's Girl

02-09-2009, 12:27 AM

Out of curosity, any of you see the trailer for this during the Superbowl?

Seen all the trailers.... Spock shows too much emotion...but it should be interesting. According to the prequel book the villian, Nero, is from some 30 - 40 years after the last movie (Spock mentions he's been on Romulas for 50 years).

Raph's Girl

02-14-2009, 02:57 PM

Welp...the latest spoilers for the new movie well....this movie is officially stupid.... Mostly due to the latest info being Scotty is stuck on this ice planet as punishment by Admiral Jonathan Archer for a transporter incident that caused his precious Beagle to "dissapear"....so yeah...lets link to Enterprise by killing off the dog (obviously a descendent of the original)... gee thanks Scotty... :roll:

Cure

05-06-2009, 03:06 PM

So this movie is getting pretty good reviews. I'm excited for this.

Raph's Girl

05-06-2009, 03:16 PM

Oh me too most definatly!! I can't wait for Friday...and after the movie Im going to Burger King to get at least one of the Star Trek glasses and of course a kids meal or 2 (there's ST kids meal toys). :D

ThirdMarioBro

05-06-2009, 08:49 PM

Seen all the trailers.... Spock shows too much emotion...but it should be interesting.

Not a problem to me. He showed emotion way too often in the original series, and even more in the pilot. Since both the original TV pilots are canon and this movie takes place long before them, I'd expect Spock's emotions to be just barely under the surface.

cqb101

05-07-2009, 12:04 AM

Just got back from the movie...

First let me say, I'm no Star Trek fan. I've never seen any of the original series, none of the other movies, and I've seen maybe a half dozen episodes of The Next Generation when it was still on. That said...

This movie was flippin' awesome. I had high expectations for this film (behind TF2 it was my most anticipated of the blockbusters this summer), and my expectations were exceeded. I'll be seeing it again tomorrow night.

Jester

05-07-2009, 12:07 AM

Well, that makes me kind of excited to see it myself this week end.

Roseangelo

05-07-2009, 12:40 AM

Seeing it tomorrow at 8pm - Can't wait!

Raph's Girl

05-07-2009, 01:40 PM

Im seeing it first thing tomarrow morning (10am is the first showing here)... totally can't wait...Im doing a day of Star Trek.... Movie in the morning and then for lunch Im going to Burger King to get a Star trek kids meal (or 2) and one of the new Star Trek glasses (hopefully Spock). :D

GK Punk

05-07-2009, 07:11 PM

Just got tickets for 9PM. Very psyched for it.

Im seeing it first thing tomarrow morning (10am is the first showing here)... totally can't wait...Im doing a day of Star Trek.... Movie in the morning and then for lunch Im going to Burger King to get a Star trek kids meal (or 2) and one of the new Star Trek glasses (hopefully Spock). :D

You can actually buy the whole set for $7.99. That's what I did anyway.

ZariusTwo

05-07-2009, 09:00 PM

I've now watched the premiere in the UK, and it was hands down the best Star Trek film since First Contact. It expanded on the modern mythology while giving us familiar tales only hinted at in earlier movies and the series, along with some new ideas

The battles aboard Nero's ship and on his superweapon provided a good dose of hard hitting action in the right spots, and the death of the "red suit" provoked a nice laugh. Kirk's journey on the Ice planet was a nice oddysey for him, I liked how he was relying on his log, a pity that scene doved into a comedy chase...Kirk marooned is a nice idea, and a lot of his character investment hinjed on him living up to Pyke's dare to be better.

I loved the snipe at Archer...obviously his temper is as bad as Spocks' to ditch Scottie there.

I don't mind the inclusion of a track from The Beastie Boys, but I was thinking Kirk would end the movie playing that on the bridge as they go into warp....

Other highlights:

-The revelations from the present day/future
-Kirk and McCoy's comedy routine when trying to get on board The Enterprise
-Kirk's gigantism
-Kirk snr' sacrifice as his son is born
-Kirk's scenes in Iowa
-Spock rejecting the racist council
-Kirk "passes" the no-win scenario
-The exodus of Vulcan
-The Shotgun Warp Speed perspective
-Sulu fencing
-"Do they still have sandwiches?"
-Nero's psychological "negotiation" tactics...sick mind, sick, sick mind
-Kirk's psychological exposure of Spock's unstable command
-Kirk battling Nero
-The tease Young Spock could die (and I beleived it as a plausible way for the timeline to be amdended)
-Elderly Spock staying put to rebuild his race, though you could assume he'll use the Guardian of Forever or the Slingshot effect to get back to his present eventually
-"Buckle Up"

It's not your Great Aunt's Star Trek...but it's not meant to be. I love reboots when there done properly, and ambigious reboots where things make clear cut sense in spite of what's not said or seen are even BETTER. Reboots that keep the core elements of the characters and move forward in new, yet familiar directions

Great movie, solid plot, and more importantly, actors that made me beleive they were the legends.

Star Trek is back

****

Brodie

05-07-2009, 11:00 PM

You guys are getting me really pumped for this. I'll be seeing it tomorrow, and calling my father afterwards to spoil it for him, because I'm a terrible son.

Jester

05-07-2009, 11:12 PM

MONSTER!!!

Yeah, I thought about going tonite, but I'll go tomorrow.

ThirdMarioBro

05-07-2009, 11:25 PM

I've ignored everything up to this point to avoid being mislead by trailers (finally learned), but now I'm fully revved up and ready to be blown away. This is going to ****ing rock.

Roseangelo

05-08-2009, 12:36 AM

Saw it. Yeah, it totally kicked ass.

GK Punk

05-08-2009, 02:18 AM

Wow. Go see it. Seriously. It's amazing.

gobo

05-08-2009, 02:43 AM

Never cared for Star Trek before. Always had trouble staying focused on any of it. That's not to say I was unknowlegeable on the franchise. Only one joke effed-up its family-friendliness. Still, I have no regret whatsoever spending $10 on that ticket.

Leo656

05-08-2009, 10:24 AM

Probably seeing it either tonight or this weekend. It's funny; Mary's Dad is an old-school Trek junkie who used to force her to watch the old show, so she always hated Trek, but she's really excited to see this for reasons she can't explain. I was never that heavily into Trek... I watched the originals with my mom way back when, but I never stayed with it once TNG started, and everything after. I was always more a Star Wars guy, anyway. But I've always appreciated Trek, just kinda felt the mythology was a little too dense for me to jump into, but seeing as how this is a prequel it'll possibly renew some interest for me.

Looks like a neat flick on its own either way, though.

ZariusTwo

05-08-2009, 02:50 PM

It's not exactly a prequel. It's a sequel/prequel/reboot

Raph's Girl

05-08-2009, 04:41 PM

I just have to say that despite Vulcan being destroyed (dang you Nero!!) and Amanda being killed (GAAAH!!!!!) I found this to be one of the most awesome movies I've seen in a long time. IMO "SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCKKKKK!!!" is the new "KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNN!!" :lol:

That little creature that Scotty seemed to befriend was cute...whatever it was....:D

I loved the interactions between the characters. How Bones got his nickname "My ex-wife got the entire planet and all I got was my bare bones.." How Jim Kirk was named after his grandfathers (that was a very sweet scene). Yes Uhura/Spock was a bit weird but they grew on me. And knowing this is an alternate universe (which was repeated considerably) I hope this leads to many many more stories to come. And Leonard Nimoy can be in em since he's helping his people. "You can be two places at once!" *lol*

And if I learned anything from this movie. I learned.. never tell Spock "Yo Mamma"... Meep!! :o

A shame it wasn't mentioned that it was Geordi LaForge who built Spock's ship, the Jellyfish...or that the Narada (Nero's ship) was built with Borg tech. But at least I know for sure that it was set 9 years after the last movie.. 9 years in which Data became Capt of the Enterprise and Picard the Vulcan Ambassador... course that's a wholy different timeline now (read the comic Star Trek Countdown).

Brodie

05-08-2009, 05:57 PM

I find it funny that after the movie came out, no one has any real complaints.

And I agree with mostly everyone who's posted before me. This movie was awesome, and it worked incredibly well.

I really enjoyed Karl Urban and Simon Pegg the most. Not to say that everyone else wasn't great, for the most part, they were, but Scotty and Bones just stuck with me. Karl Urban really surprised me.

I have to admit that this is the quality of film that I wish Wolverine was. I wish there was an ounce of as much thought and care put into that film as there was obviously put into this movie.

Best movie I've seen come out in 2009.

Raph's Girl

05-08-2009, 06:53 PM

Oh! Forgot to mention! I met a bit of a celeb at the movie!! Terry Lee Rioux who wrote DeForrest Kelley's (Dr. McCoy) biography a couple years back. She was wearing a way cool Dr. McCoy shirt too. No idea why she was in town since she lives in Texas. But it was cool just the same. :D

Cure

05-09-2009, 07:09 PM

I saw it. Yeah, no Star Trek fan but it was a great movie.

Jester

05-09-2009, 09:38 PM

Star Trek fan here, and I have to say I loved it. Great fan service (Setarian Slug anyone? What about Spock and the Kolinahr ritual? Kobayashi Maru?) aside from the whole Future Spock thing feeling like a cop out, and this is from a guy who loves time travel paradox, though it seems Trek is all about multiple overlapping time lines so Spock's effect on the future didn't really change his, but created a new one...maybe...I don't know, didn't other Treks have it effect the canon time line?
Loved Scotty and Bones, my favorites. I was wondering how Simon Pegg would do and he nailed it.

I found myself mildly MST3King the fight on Nero's ship. As Kirk was fighting Nero's #1, and he was dangling by his neck, I quoted ST 3, "I've had just about enough of you! And what was with james Kirk dangling over 3 precipices in this movie?
Some of the jokes came off a bit forced, but all in all a great Trek, if you'll pardon the obvious pun.

Zachatello00

05-09-2009, 11:34 PM

in the words of Lenard Nemoy: "to not like it would make them D-heads!"

lol. Gotta love SNL

Jester

05-09-2009, 11:42 PM

Peter Laird is a *Penis* head?

Buslady

05-10-2009, 12:11 AM

Looooong time fan, since 83...

I enjoyed every moment of this movie immensely...the most I'm very very happy with is Karl Urban as McCoy...he nailed the role, made it his own but made it clear who he was portraying. He got the mannerisms, expression and he nailed those dialog bits ("Dammit Jim I'm a Doctor...." "Are you out of your vulcan mind?", etc)....I think DeKelly would approve.

I hope there's more of this in the future.

Hannah

05-10-2009, 12:21 AM

Just saw it. Anton Yelchin is the man!

"I can do this! I can do this! Hold on! I can do this!"

ThirdMarioBro

05-10-2009, 12:27 AM

Pine, Quinto, and Nimoy's appearance on SNL is one of my favorite TV moments ever. Dick heads indeed.

The movie is probably in my top three at this point. I'm still trying to digest the details, so I'll post my feelings later.

Jester

05-10-2009, 12:31 AM

Just saw it. Anton Yelchin is the man!

"I can do this! I can do this! Hold on! I can do this!"

Chekov was funny, though it felt a little forced at times.

Ryona

05-10-2009, 01:51 AM

Just came back from the theater, and I have to say that the movie was even better than I expected! And I had already expected good things before I saw it! A must see!

Buslady

05-10-2009, 02:00 AM

Just saw it. Anton Yelchin is the man!

"I can do this! I can do this! Hold on! I can do this!"

Oh yes yes yes...and he's really Russian...perfect choice for Chekov! Loved him!

ThirdMarioBro

05-10-2009, 02:21 AM

Just came back from the theater, and I have to say that the movie was even better than I expected! And I had already expected good things before I saw it! A must see!

Indeed. I haven't felt this good about Star Trek in YEARS.

Peanut

05-10-2009, 02:33 AM

Star Trek is lame.

ThirdMarioBro

05-10-2009, 03:54 AM

You're Mom is lame.

Kunoichi_Haruko

05-10-2009, 05:30 AM

Three words for anyone even vaguely thinking about the Star Trek movie:

Go. See. It.
:thumbsup:

Peanut

05-10-2009, 10:40 AM

You're Mom is lame.

So...I am a Mom and am lame?

Ryona

05-10-2009, 10:50 AM

Happy Mothers Day, Peanut.

Buslady

05-10-2009, 10:54 AM

Star Trek is lame.

It's so "professional" when an admin trolls a thread
If ya ain't got nuthin nice to say shut up

Peanut

05-10-2009, 11:11 AM

It's so "professional" when an admin trolls a thread
If ya ain't got nuthin nice to say shut up

I'm not an "admin" and I wasn't even trolling. Most people here know I'm a huge Star Wars geek, it was meant as a joke.

Warhorse

05-10-2009, 12:18 PM

Saw it last night, and I absolutely loved every minute of it. Took my mom too as an early Mother's Day gift, and she loved it too. Definitely a keeper once it comes out on DVD! And I'm going to see it again tonight with my boyfriend.

CyberCubed

05-10-2009, 12:34 PM

Liked it. Wouldn't mind if they used these same actors for a sequel down the road.

Ginny

05-10-2009, 04:33 PM

Totally and completely AMAZING!!! I think the visual effects were the greatest I have ever seen in a movie. I can't wait to go see it again.

Raph's Girl

05-10-2009, 06:39 PM

Liked it. Wouldn't mind if they used these same actors for a sequel down the road.

Rumour has it that the sequel will be out in 2011. That's gonna be a good year for movies: Star Trek II (?), TMNT, Cars 2, Thor, Capt America, Redwall....

Cure

05-10-2009, 06:48 PM

Rumour has it that the sequel will be out in 2011. That's gonna be a good year for movies: Star Trek II (?), TMNT, Cars 2, Thor, Capt America, Redwall....

Wait, what? Pixar's making a sequel to their worst (but still OK) movie, and not a sequel to something like The Incredibles?

Lame.

cqb101

05-10-2009, 07:08 PM

Wait, what? Pixar's making a sequel to their worst (but still OK) movie, and not a sequel to something like The Incredibles?

Lame.

It may be their worst (it's definitely my least favorite) but it's most certainly their most profitable. There's also a rumor of a Cars TV show.

gobo

05-10-2009, 07:26 PM

Pixar's making a sequel to their worst (but still OK) movie, and not a sequel to something like The Incredibles?

Lame.
You said it. Cars is my least favorite Pixar film. Something tells me Disney-logic is to blame.
There's also a rumor of a Cars TV show.
I'll be surprised if Larry, the Cable Guy doesn't find time to provide a voice for this.

Raph's Girl

05-10-2009, 07:54 PM

Wait, what? Pixar's making a sequel to their worst (but still OK) movie, and not a sequel to something like The Incredibles?

Lame.

Well there's an Incredibles comic book now at least but a sequal is only in the rumour stages at the moment.

I loved Cars but then again im a Nascar fan.

Tinuvielsdreams

05-11-2009, 12:54 AM

I don't know much of anything about Star Trek but I really, really enjoyed the movie today. It looked great, and I really thought it was well balanced as far as action and comedy and drama.
I wish I would have known some of the in jokes. The audience was very reactive to certain phrases and characters.

ThirdMarioBro

05-11-2009, 03:17 AM

I love applause and laughter in a theater. It reminds me that people actually care.

So yeah, I've let it settle in from the Friday night blowout, and this is skyrocketing my favorite movies list. It may just be my #1 favorite movie. Undoubtedly it was the best Star Trek. All I know is that when I walked out of that theater, I felt better inside than I've felt about any movie this decade. I got all the in-jokes, and thought the whole thing was as respectful as you can be. It was a reboot without being a rewrite. They honored what came before and acknowledged the past/future through Spock Prime, but wrote a new slate from which to start form the beginning and tell a new story. I've been dying to see Star Trek return to the days of cowboy space adventuring. The franchise had become so submersed in it's own mythology and ego that it drowned out the ability to really connect with anything emotionally, and I speak as a lifelong fanboy. What I wanted was a script that would strive to make both longtime fans while pleasing people who wanted something fresh (I was firmly in both camps). Nimoy nailed it on the head on SNL yesterday. Anybody who comes out of the theater complaining about cannon is a dick and clearly didn't get what the movie was about. It was about taking us back to the long forgotten best of what Star Trek is/was about at it's core.

I really can't say enough things about it. Abrams nailed it. He ****ing nailed it. Casting was perfect as well. It wouldn't have worked otherwise. Spock and Kirk's relationship and tension worked brilliantly, and McCoy was spot-on. Scotty had me laughing ("Dilithium crystals at max!"), and Chekhov finally got to be a hero. Uhura's "sub-plot" was surprising as well. Sulu....fencing....lol. They actually grounded Star Trek in a way that it real to me again -- real in a way that it hasn't felt in forever, but didn't throw away things that didn't need to be thrown away (the bridge sound effects for example). And the use of the classic theme at the end was so appropriate. It never sounded better.

Really, I hope we get a lot more movies from this, and considering the weekend it's had, I expect we will. Star Trek had a rough decade, but it's back now. It's fu*king back.

Buslady

05-11-2009, 12:56 PM

I'm not an "admin" and I wasn't even trolling. Most people here know I'm a huge Star Wars geek, it was meant as a joke.

not all of us know yer a SW fan. just coming in here saying trek sucks is trolling.
whatever you are on here, it just looks bad

Leo656

05-11-2009, 04:40 PM

Loved it, and so did Mary, who never liked Trek at all. Everything TMB said about the franchise and its mythology getting so dense is exactly what kept me and Mary from getting into it before now, though I did watch reruns of the original series as a child.

An excellently-done film in every way. And I still wanna nail Winona Ryder.

Warhorse

05-12-2009, 06:15 PM

Saw it Sunday night in IMAX! If you guys can, definitely catch it in IMAX!

Mandi-chan

05-14-2009, 08:19 PM

I've seen it twice now since it came out, love it!

The casting was superb (Bones was spot on, I would swear the guy was a younger DeForest!), the story was great, it did a wonderful job tying everything together, and had a nice balance of humor and seriousness.

What I love most about it was the sense of unity, the fast bond the main cast forms...how quickly they seemed to click with one another (even Spock and Kirk early on in the movie despite their disagreements).

Andrew NDB

05-17-2009, 01:52 AM

Something I whipped up, a proper comparison of the Enterprises.

http://www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/enterprise.jpg

A bit odd, isn't it?

ThirdMarioBro

05-17-2009, 01:57 AM

Saw it again in IMAX tonight. Having had a week for it to settle in, I can say with absolute certitude that this is my favorite movie ever.

GK Punk

05-17-2009, 03:28 AM

The D Is still my favorite, but I like that new one a lot.

ThirdMarioBro

05-17-2009, 04:57 AM

Yeah, I grew up with the D on TV all the time, so naturally Generations wasn't a movie I swallowed that well as a kid.

GK Punk

05-17-2009, 05:14 AM

Haha me and my brother still have an in-joke about that. We always said, Given Picard command over the enterprise for 7 years, it goes pretty well. Give it to Riker for a few hours, and he gets it blown up.

Barkworm

05-18-2009, 01:08 PM

I watched it yesterday. I think it wasn't as good as it's hyped to be but nevertheless it was a very entertaining popcorn flick. Chris Pine was especially great, he gave the character a very welcome modernization. Quinto on the other hand... I don't know, this guy just can't act his way out of a shoe box.

The Stryker

05-18-2009, 01:14 PM

I agree with Barkworm.

Quinto was terrible.

Raph's Girl

05-21-2009, 07:35 PM

Well the novelisation is out now. I didn't buy it (I will eventually tho) but I decided to look thru it. Particularly at the ending. Now knowing that for movies and such they sometimes add something extra at the ending that wasn't seen in the movie I was expecting something about Spock Prime going to New Vulcan or something. Nope.... Porthos is alive and well! Archer should be happy....The book ends with Porthos beaming onto the transporter pad and the transporter room personell being all confused... :lol: Being a HUGE Porthos fan I would have LOVED to have seen that in the movie!! Knowing that Scotty's experiment worked....6 months later... :lol:

Warhorse

05-23-2009, 01:23 PM

Star Trek has been holding up well during the week day showings, and for a while, prior to it's release I thought this thing was going to barely make it past 120 million. Glad I was wrong, because I am so looking forward to the sequel!

TheCanadiandrome

05-23-2009, 11:38 PM

Something I whipped up, a proper comparison of the Enterprises.

A bit odd, isn't it?

dude, that's totally bad-a$$! i want to keep this image

ZariusTwo

12-03-2012, 04:00 PM

Poster for the Star Knight...I mean, "Star Trek: Into Darkness"

http://i.imgur.com/jcAgV.jpg

eoireitum7

12-03-2012, 05:57 PM

Hahaha, wow. That's definitely Dark Knight style

Raph's Girl

12-03-2012, 07:10 PM

I love how the destruction is in the shape of the starfleet insignia.

Also, I've heard that there's a 9 min trailer attached to The Hobbit so that'll be fun to watch.

Jester

12-03-2012, 07:15 PM

I dunna, it totally loses something when you've seen this....as Zarius pointed out:
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/269427_227056027335015_74982_n.jpg
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/525053_409160295791253_96595717_n.jpg

tmnt transformer

12-03-2012, 07:18 PM

I thought star trek was dead...

CyberCubed

12-03-2012, 07:21 PM

I thought star trek was dead...

Are you being serious? Star Trek is one of the biggest franchises on the planet.

TheCanadiandrome

12-03-2012, 11:47 PM

Interesting poster. Looks cool though

ZariusTwo

12-06-2012, 10:18 AM

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Magnificent Cumbastard!:)

Raph's Girl

12-06-2012, 02:20 PM

diP-o_JxysA

Returned to have his vengeance?? Meep! :o

Can't wait! And there's a 9 min trailer attached to The Hobbit (which Cumberbatch is in as Sauron aka The Necromancer and Smaug The Dragon)

TheCanadiandrome

12-06-2012, 02:41 PM

Holy crap that was magnificent!

TheCanadiandrome

12-10-2012, 01:29 PM

Japanese trailer here: http://enewsi.com/movies/190-23773.html

Little bit of extra scenes

ZariusTwo

03-21-2013, 01:25 PM

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Cure

03-21-2013, 01:42 PM

Nice. I look forward to this joint.

ZariusTwo

05-09-2013, 02:22 PM

Right, just saw Into Darkness.

Didnt think it was as good as the last one, but there's a lot of fun surprises in it.

In a nutshell,, It's a homage/sequel/send-up of Wrath of Khan.

London gets blitzed and Pike is killed, so Kirk is enlisted by Starfleet's militant mind to go after Cumberbatch, pursuing him to Kronos. The Klingons naturally show up, but despite being a major plot point, appear in person only for about five minutes and you only get a quick glimpse at their new look. Cumberbatch (or rather KHANberbatch) deals with them all and then surrenders when he discovers the lethal torpedoes the Enterprise is armed with carries his cryo-preserved people.

Section 31 gets a name-drop, there's a Tribble too, another Beasty Boys song gets airtime, then Admiral Robocop reveals he's corrupt and trying to create an intersteller war on terror campaign and kicks the Enterprise's ass, even attacking it in warp which I thought was a pretty good visual when crewmembers started spilling out if it. Kirk and Khan team up and spacewalk to the enemy ship, and Scotty, who snuck on board earlier, helps them reach the admiral, and Khan kills him and takes over the ship. Spock tricks him into sending Kirk and co back to him in exchange for the torpedoes, but he's swapped them with legit ones that take out the warship. There's a few extra twists and tweeks in here which I sort of laughed at more than took seriously, but that's only because I've seen WOK.

Also there's a surprise apperance from a certain character, who basicly says Khan is all sorts of trouble and stopping him came at a great cost back in his day.

Blonde chick is this universe's version of Kirk's future ex Carol Marcus, and is the daughter of Admiral Robocop. She doesnt do much except talk very politely in several scenes, strip down in one scene and scream a lot in another. Dissapointing given Carol is a strong character in WOK.

Final fight is also anti-climatic, only involving Spock and Uhura rather easily winding down Khan. Film ends neat and tidily in an almost Disney-like degree of flippancy which left me kinda deflated

Despite some degree of weight in places, it's really not that dark a flick and it maintains that Trekkish sense of optimisum. Not a bad film, but it's existence as a tribute/companion peice to another movie takes away or overshadows it's own unique properties.

Andrew NDB

05-09-2013, 02:46 PM

ZariusTwo

05-09-2013, 04:34 PM

I've heard it's pretty much a direct rip-off of Star Trek VI's core plot, with WoK tidbits intermixed. Basically, an unoriginal hodgepodge of different existing Star Trek movies.

Spoiler questions:

1. Is any explanation bothered with as to why Khan does not look remotely like Khan? Did Section 31 do cosmetic surgery on him so as to make no one from the 23rd century recognize him from the history books?

2. Is the spoiler I read about Bones injecting Kirk with Khan blood to bring him back to life true?

3. How long is the Nimoy cameo?

4. Does Khan actually die at the end?

5. Is the Enterprise toast by the end of it, or is it salvageable?

1. No explanation for Khan's changes. They woke him up, gave him a cover name, he got pissy about his people being mistreated, went nuts and put Admiral Marcus' plan in motion.

2. Yes. Kirk dies WOK-style from the radiation (and Spock is the one to yell "Khan" this time), but is revived by Khan's blood

3. Barely a minute. Just says his Khan was bad news and hints that there was a great cost in defeating him. Spock asks what it was but we don't get an answer...of course we diehard fans know what he'd say

4. Khan is put back into cryo-sleep at the end

5. The Enterprise is refitted and they go on their five year mission

Andrew NDB

05-09-2013, 04:59 PM

The magic healing blood thing sort of makes WoK look stupid now... I mean, in the original timeline why wouldn't Khan have used his magic blood to save his wife who died?

Blossombrooks

05-15-2013, 04:40 PM

Just saw it, loved it as a film entertainment wise and I think the cast are excellent, Bones is bang on, but now I have so many questions.

What was with the engine room?! Kirk says "you would have done the same" to Spock...um, yes he would, he did exactly the same.
Tribble? They haven't even encountered the tribbles yet if they're just heading off.
But is all this muddled up timeline going to be explained away by the interference of genesis Spock? Hmmmm.

ZariusTwo

05-15-2013, 05:05 PM

Blossombrooks

05-15-2013, 05:09 PM

It's an alternate universe (think Ulitmate Trek), not the original timeline. They can do whatever they want without really affecting anything

Ah I see, handy ;) and slightly headache inducing. Did really enjoy it though.

chrisdude

05-16-2013, 04:06 PM

I was hugely disappointed with this Into Darkness...

It was just completely unoriginal. All this talk about Star Trek being bogged down by canon, and when they reboot it, they just use it to rehash old plots? I see no reason to have made this movie. It doesn't contribute to the lore.

This came across as fan fiction. People just playing around with the universe. They brought back the fan favorite villain and took away the story that made him great. I just don't see the point.

I was excited to see Section 31 included. Don't get me wrong, the idea of Section 31 would have Roddenberry rolling in his grave, but I can't blame these new guys for using something already well established. I was impressed that they even dug that deep. But the comics leading up to this were little more than a hailstorm of red herrings, the movie left more questions unanswered than answered.

I had hopes that after they established this new timeline, and brought the crew together, this could be an interesting, thought provoking or imaginative Star Trek story. And it looked to be great.

One of my main complaints about the last movie was how the entire main crew simply fell into their positions, Kirk included. I wanted to see Kirk learn to lead people, and earn the respect of his crew. Seeing Kirk act foolishly and lose the Enterprise was perfect. Seeing him fall right back into the captain's chair for reasons other than merit ruined it.

The manhunt on Harrison walked the ethically gray area that keeps Star Trek interesting. When right and wrong aren't cut and dry. The mystery was fun, for a while. Until I found out there were 72 torpedoes, and I just wanted to get up leave. After they found out who Harrison was, the whole movie free-fell into hokey fan service.

-Spock Prime revealing himself and giving tips from the future? C'mon. This is supposed to be a new timeline. Why are we still using the old timeline as a crutch (and a plot source)?
-Kirk's death? We've had these characters for one movie, not 40 years. No one's going to believe, for a second, that Kirk is gone. It was an incredibly corny scene.

And why is Spock's duality is defining his character in this series? I suppose to play up this love plot with Uhura, but that's also silly. I understood it in the first movie, because every movie has to have a love plot, and there was no room for Kirk to have one. But I hope we can leave this behind, now.

The whole Eugenics Wars element has always been a lot of fun, for me. But dag, isn't that a lot to drop on new fans? "There was a time in the past where we experimented genetics. We made superior beings that were stronger and smarter than humans. Also, we woke one up and put him work for Section 31, to develop advanced technology. Also, there's a Section 31. They're a secret section of the virtuous and peace-loving Starfleet that doesn't have to obey rules, and may assassinate people without trial from time to time. Surprise, guys!"

But my main thing is, after The Wrath of Khan, and The Wrath of Shinzon, and The Wrath of Nero, and The Other Wrath of the Other Khan, can we get a Star Trek movie that's not just about fighting angry villains?

Andrew NDB

05-16-2013, 06:01 PM

Far be it for me to defend these horrible movies but...

It's an alternate universe (think Ulitmate Trek), not the original timeline. They can do whatever they want without really affecting anything

It's not an alternate universe, it's a splinter timeline that has emerged from the moment Nero's ship arrived in 2233. From that moment, everything that happened as a result of Nero has a ripple effect that could and has potentially change the whole timeline going forward.

But only going forward. All 4 seasons of Star Trek: Enterprise, for example, are entirely intact in the new timeline because they took place a century before Nero arrived.

Destroying the USS Kelvin and taking out the lion's share of the crew who were not supposed to die in the original timeline, and then blowing up the whole planet Vulcan? This would cause huge changes in everything from the TOS 5 year mission, the TOS movies, and TNG-VOY. Who knows who the people that died aboard the Kelvin would have gone on to be or do in their lives that shaped the TOS/TNG stuff we know (was Sisko's grandpa aboard it? was Noonian Soongh's dad aboard it? we have no idea!), and as much of a linchpin as Vulcan and the Vulcans are to Starfleet and the Federation, resulting alterations going forward could be enormous. And now in Into Darkness we have Section 31 riling up the Klingons before that was ever supposed to happen and "John Harrison" (who was not awake -- yet -- in the original timeline) taking out whole buildings full of Starfleet personnel... there's a ton of stuff that's got to be different.

And let's take Voyager for example... Voyager gets lost in the Delta Quadrant? No sweat! There is now 25th century "transwarp transporter" technology that can beam the whole crew back to Earth anytime.

Tribble? They haven't even encountered the tribbles yet if they're just heading off.
But is all this muddled up timeline going to be explained away by the interference of genesis Spock? Hmmmm.

There's no reason an earlier-than-in-the-previous-timeline discovery of the Tribbles couldn't have been the result of one of Nero's ripples. For example, let's say the USS Kelvin had a lieutenant aboard that quits Starfleet after becoming rattled when he narrowly escaped certain death on one of the escape pods and becomes a trader who encounters the tribbles in a chance visit to an alien planet. In the original timeline, that same lieutenant might have stuck with Starfleet to retire at a ripe old age as an admiral, never encountering any tribbles.

Point is, who knows? A variety of possibilities are possible.

Couple of Into Darkness questions:

1. If Khan has magic healing blood, why didn't he save his dying wife with it in the original timeline on Ceti Alpha V?

2. Why did Bones need to wait on hunting Khan down to take augment blood to bring Kirk back to life... when there was 72 easily accessible augments sleeping right there next to him?

But my main thing is, after The Wrath of Khan, and The Wrath of Shinzon, and The Wrath of Nero, and The Other Wrath of the Other Khan, can we get a Star Trek movie that's not just about fighting angry villains?

Yeah, no kidding. 3 movies in a row now it's been Khan-like villains looking for revenge in a giant black ship.

chrisdude

05-16-2013, 06:23 PM

In the ongoing comic, the crew has actually had alternate timeline versions of several original series adventures. Which accounts some of the unexplained possessions on-ship, including tribbles.

Couple of Into Darkness questions:

1. If Khan has magic healing blood, why didn't he save his dying wife with it in the original timeline on Ceti Alpha V?

2. Why did Bones need to wait on hunting Khan down to take augment blood to bring Kirk back to life... when there was 72 easily accessible augments sleeping right there next to him?

1. I don't have a good answer. Perhaps he didn't know, or didn't have the necessary technology? Or maybe this blood thing just wasn't so well thought out...

2. When they found out what they were, Bones said waking them up on the ship may kill them.

ZariusTwo

05-17-2013, 12:25 PM

It's not an alternate universe, it's a splinter timeline that has emerged from the moment Nero's ship arrived in 2233. From that moment, everything that happened as a result of Nero has a ripple effect that could and has potentially change the whole timeline going forward.

Am I supposed to think a ruptured timeline is an excuse for Khan going from indian to british? It's an alternate universe mate, it's pretty blatant in pointing that out. Anyone who beleives that s*it probably still thinks the Craig era Bond movies are prequels

Raph's Girl

05-17-2013, 06:09 PM

chrisdude

05-17-2013, 10:04 PM

First off the Tribble was in the last movie as Scotty's pet.

Secondly I for one actually liked this film. No it's not the best Star Trek film around and yes it does take elements from other films. Sure there were some odd parts and errors Kronos?! Really? It's Quonos not Kronos!! but all in all I enjoyed it.

odds and ends:
1: The planet Nibiru? I hope that doesn't bite them at some point! Especially after Nibiru was such a major plot point in Scooby Doo Mystery Inc! *lol*

2: Spock's "Khaaaaaaan!!" just didn't have the same effect as when Kirk said it...

3: Looks like the Klingon moon got destroyed early...

4: Ok who's idea was it to introduce Section 31 to this universe? Yeah it was kinda cool on DS9 but after a bit the whole plot point of it got overly done....

5:
"Oh hai Spock!"
"Hai Spock..."
"So...tell me about Khan?"
"He's eeeeeevil..."
"Okee doke! Did ya defeat him?"
"Yep..."
"How?"
"Well first off we dumped him on some planet....then later on..."

6: Was that an android on the bridge??

Technically, Section 31 existed back in Enterprise days. I don't like it. I don't think Roddenberry would approve. But I'm a bit impressed that they dug it up.

Am I supposed to think a ruptured timeline is an excuse for Khan going from indian to british? It's an alternate universe mate, it's pretty blatant in pointing that out. Anyone who beleives that s*it probably still thinks the Craig era Bond movies are prequelsIt is a splintered timeline. They spell it out plainly, and the filmmakers have made it clear that that was there intention. It was just a poor casting decision. I'm curious as to what you say blatantly points out that the timeline is entirely alternate.

Andrew NDB

05-17-2013, 11:01 PM

Am I supposed to think a ruptured timeline is an excuse for Khan going from indian to british? It's an alternate universe mate, it's pretty blatant in pointing that out.

It's not, and there's nothing pointing that out... blatant or otherwise. In fact, the contrary -- there's plenty of interviews with Orci and Kurtzman and even Abrams himself citing that they worked hard to work within the confines of what came before and the existing canon where appropriate. It's basically a new universe because of the ripples caused by the Narada, but you can travel to any point before then and it would be identical to the previous timeline.

Anyone who beleives that s*it probably still thinks the Craig era Bond movies are prequels

That would be silly. And impossible. However I kind of wish they'd have made Daniel Craig's character someone who "adopts" the James Bond moniker after the last one dies or retires, so it can both serve as a new beginning while not jettisoning the past.

Baxter Stockmen

05-22-2013, 12:11 PM

Posted this in another thread, guess this one is talking about the new movie as well.

Went to see Star Trek: ID this weekend, Was really excited since I absolutely loved the 2009 movie.

I was very disappointed. I'm not saying that it was a bad movie by any means. It was a action movie, that just happened to be called Star Trek. Really they could have redesigned the space ship, and rename the characters, and this could just be any other semi scifi movie that stands on its own. (like minority report or blade runner)

One of my biggest beefs with the movie was that it was basically void of any major scifi elements. Pretty much the warp tech and the cool ring in water explosion. This is Star Trek! The movie goers are expecting to see some cool scifi stuff. And the super khan blood. Please, what a cheap way of reviving a person from the dead. The second they showed him taking his blood and putting it into that fur ball, i knew.

My biggest complaint however, was the fact that Khan was manipulated by a pathetic human being. It is absolutely the wrong way for Khan to be portrayed. He could have just been blowing places up as a terrorist demanding that his crew be returned to him. And since they don't negotiate with terrorists, he keeps doing crazier and more deadly attacks. And then he gets his crew back, and they continue what they were doing, eradicating life forms inferior to theirs. Which is where the miraculous save by Cpt Kirk and Spock could be a much more epic movie.

Plus Khan's warp to Klingon space. I really wanted to see the start of the war at the end of Into Darkness. They said just being there could start a war. But the fact that they killed a ton of them, now it has to be started. It would have been great for Star Fleet to have to deal with Khan and a full out Klingon war would have been fantastic.

Again, I enjoyed the movie. I was just expecting more from it. And the more I thought about it, all I can think about is how they missed a very massive opportunity here.