View Full Version : I hated whenever Raph threw his SAIS
dante1st
03-14-2007, 01:11 PM
I just used to hate that so much, it just feels like he's vulnerable when he "throws his weapon away," whether it be in the cartoons, movie, or comics. It just seems that in the heat of battle the effort to go and retrieve the thrown sai that skewered an enemy and then continue fighting the next bad guy outweighs simply dispatching your opponent using traditional weapon based combat that excludes throwing.
Revan
03-14-2007, 02:57 PM
ha, i know exactly what you mean! I read earlier in the "Raph's Sais" thread that many ninjas carried three sai in the case that they had to throw one and could not retrieve it.
That is the one thing FF got right. When raph hurls his weapons if FF, they "magically" find their way directly back into his hands after striking the target.
Raph'N'Roll
03-14-2007, 03:18 PM
I don't mind him doing it if he has no other choice, and out of all four Turtles his weapon is the most throwable.
But there were times in both old and new cartoons when he seemed to throw them just for the sake of it, which is silly, and I doubt Splinter would be too happy with that.
Revan
03-14-2007, 03:20 PM
"I lost a Sai!"
"Then it is gone."
"'But I can get it back!"
dante1st
03-14-2007, 06:47 PM
"I lost a Sai!"
"Then it is gone."
"'But I can get it back!"
You wouldn't have lost it if you didn't fling them around so much!!:evilgrin:
Kendamu
03-14-2007, 06:49 PM
I remember Leo throwing his swords at least a couple of times so it's not all Raph. Besides, unlike Leo, Sai are supposed to be thrown in certain situations.
Revan
03-14-2007, 07:18 PM
Yeah throwing weapons with a purpose makes sense. The part that does not make sense is how they don't retrieve their weapons but still have them later. :ohwell:
Kendamu
03-14-2007, 09:27 PM
Remember the storage shell Turtles figures? That was my explination for that.
Raph86
03-14-2007, 09:32 PM
Well in the movies, he didn't really use his sais that much. Usually he just used punching and kicking moves. I don't know why he gets so mad that he lost a sai, it's not like he uses them anyway.
Kendamu
03-14-2007, 09:36 PM
Well in the movies, he didn't really use his sais that much. Usually he just used punching and kicking moves. I don't know why he gets so mad that he lost a sai, it's not like he uses them anyway.
A lot of basic sai techniques involve holding the sai so that punching and blocking technqiues are more effective (due to blocking and striking with metal). I always kind of saw them in a similar light to the brass knuckles.
That might explain his punching and stuff.
Revan
03-14-2007, 09:37 PM
Thats true but none of the boys really use their weapons in the movie or in the cartoons. If they really did use them, there would probably be way more dead foot ninjas instead of foot ninjas getting bumped heads. I mean come on, double katana blades and no fatalities?! I don't want to start another tmnt violence snowball fight, I'm just saying.
Kendamu
03-14-2007, 09:39 PM
You can thank the target audience at the time (me) for that sort of thing.
Revan
03-14-2007, 09:46 PM
Yeah me too.
Even as a child I can remember thinking to myself. "Why doesn't shredder just arm his foot clan with guns?" Of course that wouldn't matter since the boys can dodge lasers. Ever notice how shooters always seem to miss the boys.
Kendamu
03-14-2007, 09:48 PM
The way I saw it back then was that "Ninjas don't use guns" and other stuff like that.
It wasn't until I grew up that I found out that the Japanese have had guns since the 1500s or so and that Ninja did use them if they could get ahold of them.
Revan
03-14-2007, 09:50 PM
Ha yeah. 3 ninjas.
"Rocky, these ninjas have guns!"
"Colt, if they have guns, they're no ninjas."
(I always wanted to be colt. Rocky = Leo. Colt = Raph. Tum-Tum = Mike)
Kendamu
03-14-2007, 09:53 PM
Yeah. Out of myself and a couple of my good friends at the time, I was Colt.
Revan
03-14-2007, 09:57 PM
And the three goons = Beebop and Rocksteady. The 3 ninjas made quick work of those morons.
BTW, I vaguely remember another movie similar to 3 ninjas with preteenagers that had martial arts skill. The only thing I can remember about the movie is a character named Cookie. Anyone know what movie this is?
Spitfire
03-14-2007, 10:10 PM
Because it's totally cool to see him kill everyone he fights the exact same way. Totally entertaining.
Kendamu
03-14-2007, 10:37 PM
And the three goons = Beebop and Rocksteady. The 3 ninjas made quick work of those morons.
BTW, I vaguely remember another movie similar to 3 ninjas with preteenagers that had martial arts skill. The only thing I can remember about the movie is a character named Cookie. Anyone know what movie this is?
http://www.badmovieplanet.com/unknownmovies/reviews/rev377.html
Is this what you're asking about?
Revan
03-14-2007, 11:11 PM
Wow! Yep that's it. Man I remember it being better than that. Ha, I was really into all things ninja when I was young. Surf Ninjas, 3 Ninjas, tmnt of course. My love for tmnt led me into battletoads as well.
Kendamu
03-14-2007, 11:14 PM
Wow! Yep that's it. Man I remember it being better than that. Ha, I was really into all things ninja when I was young. Surf Ninjas, 3 Ninjas, tmnt of course. My love for tmnt led me into battletoads as well.
OT: What version of the arcade game is that in your sig? It doesn't look much like the coin-op but it doesn't look like the NES version, either.
Revan
03-15-2007, 01:58 PM
It's the arcade version. I used to spend my entire allowance on this game. good times.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.klov.com/images/T/sTeenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php%3Fgame_id%3D10052&h=541&w=437&sz=27&hl=en&start=4&tbnid=fFBbCsZmCujo1M:&tbnh=132&tbnw=107&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dninja%2Bturtles%2Barcade%2Bmachine%26 svnum%3D50%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN
http://www.klov.com/images/T/sTeenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles.jpg
Kendamu
03-15-2007, 05:47 PM
The coloring and textures seem slightly different than any version of the arcade I've ever seen. That, and I never remember the sword-weilding Foots to wear pink. That's why I asked.
Revan
03-15-2007, 05:59 PM
Actually now that you mention it, the graphics and colors in the sig do differ. Good eye.
Kendamu
03-15-2007, 07:51 PM
I wouldn't have noticed but I played it recently at eBash here in town *coughandIhavetheROMandplayitallthetimecough*.
Buslady
03-15-2007, 07:56 PM
I just used to hate that so much, it just feels like he's vulnerable when he "throws his weapon away," whether it be in the cartoons, movie, or comics. It just seems that in the heat of battle the effort to go and retrieve the thrown sai that skewered an enemy and then continue fighting the next bad guy outweighs simply dispatching your opponent using traditional weapon based combat that excludes throwing.
Raph's simply using his sai how they are meant to be used and yes that does mean they are a throwing weapon. Traditionally, they were carried in 3s, two at the side, one for throwing. Raph's right one target when he throws one.
Warhorse
03-15-2007, 08:18 PM
Raph's simply using his sai how they are meant to be used and yes that does mean they are a throwing weapon. Traditionally, they were carried in 3s, two at the side, one for throwing. Raph's right one target when he throws one.
And besides, it looks so darn cool and bad ass when he throws them too! So I'm not complaining.
StealthNinjaScyther
03-17-2007, 11:15 PM
Sorry for veering off topic, but Neutrino's sig was bothering me. Had to find out which version it was from. Well, looks like it has screens taken from the DOS version (Scroll down):
http://www.mobygames.com/game/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-ii-the-arcade-game/screenshots
Looks like there were quite a few ports. Never knew there were so many.
SpiderHulkThing
03-18-2007, 11:09 AM
I've been watching the season 4 old school toon boxset and Raphs sais look so weird looking. the prongs are really short, oddly shapped and too thick. I don't remember them being like that in the first season. But it's been awhile since I've seen the first season, so maybe it's always been like that and I just didn't notice.
shellofinsanity
03-18-2007, 11:28 AM
i dont remember them being short and stuby in the first or 2nd seasons that i do have on DVD, maybe they are though compared to 2k3, which ive seen just 2-3 eps of
Revan
03-18-2007, 10:01 PM
Yeah his sais look rediculous in some episodes. The long middle prong is sometimes drawn the same length as the hand guard prongs in the OT. That always bothered me.
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