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Aztec General

01-23-2003, 08:40 PM

Check out the Blast from the Past #67 under Woo Hoo #3. Laird says that they have made sculpts of the TMNT and Splinter for the live action movie on the Hallmark Channel!!

I wasn't even aware that this was confirmed. This is great news indeed.

Most of you probably know where to go to get to the "Blasts" but here:

www.ninjaturtles.com/

or
www.planetracers.com/blast/blast67.html

Eye of Sarnath

01-23-2003, 09:35 PM

Sweet! I didn't even know any work was being done on that. :D

beaker

01-23-2003, 10:07 PM

Eeesh....anyone else become less than excited when they hear the words TMNT and Hallmark together?

Why oh why did that cgi film have to be canned...and will Jim Henson Creature shop even be involved with this 'made for cable special'? Hopefully a theatrical film proper will be in production before too long...though I CANNOT see a TMNT film done without the Jim Henson Creature Shop.

azure turtle

01-24-2003, 01:13 AM

Actually... I'm quite excited about this Hallmark mini-series. I think they can pull it off. No, I'm not too thrilled that Hallmark is producing TMNT, but I'm not gonna criticize it until I start seeing sneak peeks (like the toon).

Karpo_007

01-24-2003, 04:26 AM

Why is it bad that Hallmark is doing the miniseries? I don't know anything about the company.

Cherubae

01-24-2003, 07:06 AM

Why is it bad that Hallmark is doing the miniseries?

Hallmark is mainly a politically-correct-family-oriented channel. Lots of warm-fuzzy-feeling tv shows and movies. I don't see how the Turtles can even fit into there, although Hallmark does air Hawaii Five-O. That sort of surprises me.

I'm going to assume that if the Turtles air on Hallmark, it won't be "ninja kick butt action". More like "Leonardo, struggling with mixed feelings about his very existance, takes a enlightening journey as advised by his spiritual teacher, Splinter, and discovers the strength within himself to accept his physical beauty even though he may be viewed as grotesque by the rest of the human race."

:dead:

- Cher

Karpo_007

01-24-2003, 07:23 AM

Oh.... Now I see... This is starting to worrie me...

MzTheInsomniac

01-24-2003, 07:26 AM

probably wont be much fighting either

TerranigmaFreak

01-24-2003, 09:18 AM

Hallmark also did the recent Dinotopia Mega series. No comment on it though since none of the stories were based on the book. You do see some people get eaten by Dinos though. Anyway back to the topic. Why is this some made for TV movie? I thought John Woo signed up to do a CG movie? I know the CG TV SHOW was canned for a regular hand drawn show, but did the movie get cancelled as well? THAT WOULD SUCK!!!! I WANT THE 4th MOVIE!!

Psycrow

01-24-2003, 09:29 AM

The only thing we can do now is sit back and wait...

Karpo_007

01-24-2003, 09:59 AM

Actually, John wo was never goint to do it. It was misunderstood, they had a contract with Digital Rim(John wo is one of the main partners of the compnay) So some people tough that He was going to direct it, that's how the rumors got started. But unafortunately, the contract didn't work out in the end, and the CGI movie was scrapped. So did the CGI tv series.

At first it was said that the CGI on hallmark would combine CGI and Live action, and that Steve Barron would direct[ :D ] it, But im not sure if that is true anymore.

Is the hall mark really a channel that won't allow violent shows?

Donatello

01-24-2003, 10:13 AM

i have no real knowledge or opinion about hallmark, but due to peter laird's involvement in this next turtle era everything is looking for the better, the new toon already seems better than the old one, and i don't think laird would do a non-action tmnt mini-series

Karpo_007

01-24-2003, 10:48 AM

Well I think he is ready to make compromises to get TMNT in to air. But Im sure he wont let anything like Next mutation happen ever again.

Dontebell

01-24-2003, 12:42 PM

will the new mini series be a family show?

Karpo_007

01-24-2003, 12:48 PM

Hopefully not...

beaker

01-24-2003, 03:35 PM

Karpo_007

01-24-2003, 03:38 PM

Well they might Have Steve Barron directing it, That was said over a year ago, But then it was official. If he will do it, Im sure It can't be really bad. Is that hallmark channel really that bad? isn't there any action shows on the network?

lhb412

01-24-2003, 05:54 PM

I think they show the original He-Man and the Master of the Universe, and as TerranigmaFreak said earlier they did the Dinotopia series which was not that great story wise but had alot of action and great special effects.

Karpo_007

01-24-2003, 05:58 PM

So It is possible that the New TMNT miniseries will be good. Especially if Steve Barron is directing.

lhb412

01-24-2003, 06:10 PM

Now we go on to discuss the possibilities of the film! If Steve Barron is directing, do you think he'll start from the begining with the origin (that would be cool), continue from the forth film (hope not), or (this is my favorite of the three posibilities) continue from HIS Turtle movie, forgetting 2&3.

Please, please let it be him directing! The first Ninja Turtle film is one of the best movies ever!

Karpo_007

01-24-2003, 06:13 PM

I guess it will be a completely new story. This is what reads in IGN:

Director Steve Barron told THR, "The Ninja Turtles miniseries that Hallmark and I are developing will be a darker, more streetwise view of the characters. Taking its tone from the original comics, it will be an atmospheric and spectacular reinvention of the franchise using today's CGI technology to leap into the 21st century."

Prowl

01-24-2003, 06:41 PM

Wait up guys. I may stand alone here, but I have seen one or two good Hallmark series, both involving Murder and viloence. Even Alice in Wonderland (which I didn't like) was pretty dark. They did Arabian Nights with all it's betrayal and murderous plots, and while their effects aren't up to Hollywood standards, they still look great for TV. I'll be open to it, especially with Steve Barron involved.

Prowl

01-24-2003, 06:43 PM

LOL, I did a search for Steve Barron on IMDB, and as it turned out, he did work on the Arabian Nights series, and I liked the way that one turned out.

Karpo_007

01-24-2003, 06:48 PM

You know that Steve Baroon directed the only good TMNT movie to date right? Well That news is over a year old, but if it is true, Im sure it will be good, no matter what network.

beaker

01-24-2003, 06:50 PM

Please, please let it be him directing! The first Ninja Turtle film is one of the best movies ever!

Oh yeah, I'd say the first TMNT film is one of my favorite top 3 films of all time.(I dont even own the horrific TMNT 2, 3, or TNM movie) To get the original director back would be too cool!

Reznorite420

01-24-2003, 06:58 PM

TMNT 1 = Best of all

TMNT 2 = Not too bad, but not too good either

TMNT 3 = I should kill myself for mentioning it!

Jephael

01-24-2003, 07:02 PM

I can see them disreguarding the third one, but I liked how the second one revealed the origin of the ooze. Maybe they'll just disreguard the whole Vanilla Ice fiasco.

Karpo_007

01-24-2003, 07:06 PM

It will probably be a completely new start. There would be no point in continuing the the first movies.

Jephael

01-24-2003, 07:10 PM

Yeah, I know they will. It's just like how they're doing the new animated series.

The thing is though, people seem to have this odd knack for calling the next motion picture TMNT 4, which would obviously make it look like the next in the original series of movies

Karpo_007

01-24-2003, 07:14 PM

That is true.. It will probably be called a fourth movie.

Jephael

01-24-2003, 07:17 PM

I don't see why they can't just consider calling it a remake.

Karpo_007

01-24-2003, 07:18 PM

Maybe it has a suntitle of some sort. That would make things easier..

Machias Banshee

01-24-2003, 07:18 PM

Heh, could be really bad and be a prequel, like Ninja Turtles: before the ooze....

Brodie

01-24-2003, 08:53 PM

If they did the prequel, it would be overly boring. Considering in TMNT 1, Leo talks to Splinter and says they won their first battle. Meaning they didn't do crap before that tiff with the dudes opressing April.

Hallmark probably won't screw up....Their channel plays Alf, and who doesn't like a hairy puppet that talks about eating "Cats" all the time. It's funny because Hallmark didn't notice the underlying joke behind Alf always wanting to eat "Cats". Maybe they did notice, then I'f have a lot of faith in Hallmark.

As long as the turtles don't start babbling off ebonics, it should be good.

Prowl

01-24-2003, 09:07 PM

Yup, I knew he directed it, and at the time, I was saddened that he was out for the second and third.

beaker

01-24-2003, 11:23 PM

Yup, I knew he directed it, and at the time, I was saddened that he was out for the second and third.

That, JHC wasnt as involved, and they were filmed in the horrific early 90's...all ingredients for disaster!

But why was TMNT one so good? Filmed in 1989 with that cool director and the Jim Henson Company, featured a very dark and edgy style and feel and was before they politically corrected the series with TMNT 2.
I mean what kid at the time wouldnt wanna hang out in a massive arcade/foot clan dojo? Sure beats going to a horrible night club to see Vanilla Ice.

But yeah, a prequel would just suck. In my mind it would either be a whole new film series like Episode One(err, ok...NOT like the Star Wars Episodes)
or the real TMNT 2;)

Reznorite420

01-25-2003, 10:17 AM

JHC wasnt as involvedWhat do you mean wasn't "as" involved? They either were or weren't.

Karpo_007

01-25-2003, 10:28 AM

I don't think he was involved at all in TMNT 2 or 3.

Prowl

01-25-2003, 12:12 PM

No he wasn't. There were some animosities between he and the studio, but I'm not sure what it was or why. Movie news wasn't as easily available as it is now.

lhb412

01-25-2003, 07:31 PM

They probably didn't like all the violence in TMNT 1, The first movie was an independant film, was it not?

MzTheInsomniac

01-25-2003, 07:38 PM

yes indeed it was, indie movies rule :D

beaker

01-25-2003, 09:33 PM

They probably didn't like all the violence in TMNT 1, The first movie was an independant film, was it not?

Oh yeah! It was handled in an indie film style...thats why it was so cool! Well the Jim Henson Company was not really involved cept for a few things here and there with TMNT 2. And then I dont think at all with TMNT 3.

Reznorite420

01-26-2003, 03:58 PM

If JHC wasn't involved at all, how were the Turtle costumes able to be used?

Karpo_007

01-26-2003, 04:01 PM

Someone else made them.

Jephael

01-26-2003, 04:03 PM

Jim Henson did help design the turtle costumes for the first film, as did his company for the second film when he died.

Karpo_007

01-26-2003, 04:18 PM

I tought they were made by diffrent company... If the company was same, why are the second movie ones so inferior?

Jephael

01-26-2003, 04:26 PM

I thought the second movie costumes were perfect, even if the plot sucked.

Karpo_007

01-26-2003, 04:28 PM

The suits looked ugly, with all those spots in them... I didn't like them at all.

Jephael

01-26-2003, 04:39 PM

I barely noticed them in the second movie, they looked more like freckles. In the third movie though, it looked like they had liver spots.

Karpo_007

01-26-2003, 04:45 PM

Yes they were much worse in 3.

Prowl

01-26-2003, 10:23 PM

You can see technical differences between the first and second movie and the third one. Such as the lip movement in the first and second movie containing some good lip and eye movement, and the third one coming off as being very mechanical. The differences in the look were probably a choice for the sake of making the turtles less murky and more like their cartoon counterparts.

beaker

01-26-2003, 11:28 PM

Jim Henson did help design the turtle costumes for the first film, as did his company for the second film when he died.

Yeah the Jim Henson Company in 1989 was very involved with the first TMNT, from the costumes to the animatronics to even the puppetry(KEvin clash, the performer behind Elmo and Clifford puppeteered Splinter)

Obviously JHC's presence was sorely missing from TMNT 2...though I think good writing was the main thing missing from TMNT 2(and even more so in TMNT 3) Bottom line, in my book TMNT 2 and 3 are a sheer abomination.
(both times I cam eout of the theatre beyond disappointed)

Prowl

01-26-2003, 11:45 PM

DEARGOD!!! I just watched turtles 1 and 3. The difference is sickening. Yes, I own Turtles three because I like the fighting (A little darker than 2, and the sound effects are a little deeper), but I could not stomach the animatronics in their mouths, not to mention Leo looking like a complete idot with his expressions. You can see, without question, the amount of attention Henson's shop put into the first movie.

frank_one

12-04-2012, 01:50 PM

CyberCubed

12-04-2012, 02:34 PM

I've read about this Hallmark project on the pages of volume 4 but I can't find anything on the net about it and how far it got. So, what happened to this project? Was it cancelled all of a sudden? Did some concept art or model came out?

Its an idea that fell through. It sounded horrible anyway, a live action made for TV movie?

*shudders*

TheSkeletonMan939

12-04-2012, 02:39 PM

I've read about this Hallmark project on the pages of volume 4 but I can't find anything on the net about it and how far it got. So, what happened to this project? Was it cancelled all of a sudden? Did some concept art or model came out?

You know, you could have started a new thread instead of replying to a nine-year old one. :P

frank_one

12-04-2012, 02:46 PM

You know, you could have started a new thread instead of replying to a nine-year old one. :P
I guess I should have waited one more year and come for the 10th anniversary celebration. :tsmile:
How far did the production of this show go? Did any concept art, model or plot filter out?

Master Splinter

12-04-2012, 03:17 PM

I guess I should have waited one more year and come for the 10th anniversary celebration. :tsmile:
How far did the production of this show go? Did any concept art, model or plot filter out?

First - http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/archive/index.php/t-37834.html

Second - Concept Art - http://imgur.com/a/si2Nn (Thanks Powder!)

Third - Concept Art - http://flickriver.com/photos/terrible2z/2556195256/ (Thanks Tokka!)

Fourth - http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1876&dat=20010901&id=_yofAAAAIBAJ&sjid=EdAEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6485,435940 (Thanks TurtleTitan97!)

-ms

frank_one

12-04-2012, 04:01 PM

First - http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/archive/index.php/t-37834.html

Second - Concept Art - http://imgur.com/a/si2Nn (Thanks Powder!)

Third - Concept Art - http://flickriver.com/photos/terrible2z/2556195256/ (Thanks Tokka!)

Fourth - http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1876&dat=20010901&id=_yofAAAAIBAJ&sjid=EdAEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6485,435940 (Thanks TurtleTitan97!)

-ms
Thanks! This is more than I hoped to find!