Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix - Please Use Spoiler Tags

[Mr. Snackpants]

So how about that new Harry Potter film coming out in July. Did anyone see the the trailer this weekend at TMNT? That was the first I had seen of it.

I'm started to get excited already!

[Kunoichi_Haruko]

This news is from Oct. 2006. The lastest I heard was that she, Daniel and Rupert all signed contracts to finish the final two films.

EDIT: Yeah here's the press release:
http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/March2007/23/c6173.html

But I will say that if she hadn't, I would've been ticked off...







EDIT 2: I mean, uh, yeah first the movie, then the book--July's gonna be a great month! :embarass:

[Mr. Snackpants]

This news is from Oct. 2006. The lastest I heard was that she, Daniel and Rupert all signed contracts to finish the final two films.

EDIT: Yeah here's the press release:
http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/March2007/23/c6173.html

But I will say that if she hadn't, I would've been ticked off...

I hadn't heard anything about it and saw a link to the news....I didn't see that it was that old:embarass:

So I changed the thread, because I couldn't delete it......

....I'm an idiot :lol:


EDIT: Does a Mod just wanna delete this mess?

[Kunoichi_Haruko]

:lol: Man, now I gotta change my post so I don't look like a tool! :lol:

[Revan]

Looks interesting. They showed many clips of cities which looked like NY. It seems the as the movies have progressed, they have been incorporating less Hogwarts and more of the world we know.

[LogicDonny]

Man I gotta see the other movies.

last harry movie was prisoner of arkibat.

[GK Punk]

I fixed the thread title for you

[Jo Dawn]

I'm excited for this... But then again, I'm big into HP. I wonder how this one will translate onto film.

I'm sad about Helena Bonham Carter playing Bellatrix LeStrange. I thought their first choice was perfect, but she had to go and get pregnant, heh. Then again, I'm not a real fan of Carter, but we'll see! She may be perfect. Who knows.

Just have to wait until July to see.

[Mecha Cow]

Phoenix, damn it!

Don't think I've seen the trailer yet, anyone have a link?

[Mr. Snackpants]

Phoenix, damn it!

Don't think I've seen the trailer yet, anyone have a link?

Ooops, sorry. I was in a hurry to change the thread and thread title, because I'm a dumb@ss.

[Rockzero]

I'm hesitant about this one. The books are great but the movies have been rather hit and miss. Goblet of Fire was great (as trimmed down as it was), but the other three...not so much.

Especially Prisoner of Azkaban. *shudder*

But I will more than likely be there opening night even if the early reviews are sour. :P

[Roseangelo]

I really like the Prisoner of Azkaban movie, but because of the few key details that were left out for no good reason, it just kinda leaves you unsatisfied at the end.

[Kunoichi_Haruko]

I really like the Prisoner of Azkaban movie, but because of the few key details that were left out for no good reason, it just kinda leaves you unsatisfied at the end.

Indeed it does-- Marauder's Map, anyone? :roll:

[Mecha Cow]

Goblet of Fire was a lot worse at that. Mostly because it was just a collection of random scenes rather than a coherent adaption. I sure hope Order will be better.

[Roseangelo]

Indeed it does-- Marauder's Map, anyone? :roll:

That and the whole Prongs = James = why Harry's patronus is a stag detail. :dead:

[Anarky]

Now, with the new movie arising, there's naturally a lot commotion about the actors. Now see what I found when a confused friend asked me if the last sentence in the first paragraph of Emma Watson's official Bio really means what it means...

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9081/emmawatsonarianyn2.th.jpg (http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9081/emmawatsonarianyn2.jpg)

Looks like there's a side to Hermione we haven't seen yet.

[Roseangelo]

The pic you linked to is too small to read anything.

[Anarky]

No, really? I assume you didn't try clicking on it to get to the 1670x1011 pixel-image? Clever girl... And in case it still is too small after clicking, try displaying the original sized image and not the shrunk-to-fit-window-version.

[Roseangelo]

Dude, chill. I had images turned off and the only link I had went to the thumbnail, not the full version. Problem fixed.

[Cure]

I don't get it. Arian as in from a part of Persia or someone that's an Aries? I even went to dictionary.com and I don't see why it's funny. I'm lost.

[Barkworm]

Anarky, the Nazi Aryans are spelt differently. Tststs...

[Mecha Cow]

Her star sign is Aries; they are described as adventurous and energetic [...] Her family and friends would certainly say that Emma is a true Arian.

Ar·i·an
n. One who is born under the sign of Aries.


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[Anarky]

Yeah, but you're "a true aries" if you're born under the sign of Aries. Not an arian.

Besides: an alternate spelling of Aryan, Aryan race. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arian)

I'd have gone for another wording as well...

[Mecha Cow]

Anyone seen it yet? I just got back from it.

It was pretty cool, much better than the last one. Like in all of the Harry Potter movies, the pacing was a bit off, undoubtedly because there was so much to adapt in such a relatively short time. The final showdown made up was really well done though, and it made up for a lot.

I don't remember the book all that well, but I got the feeling a lot was left out, and I'm not sure I would have understood everything if I hadn't read it (This seems to be a recurring issue with the Potter movies).

I noticed that they left out the mirror that Sirius gave Harry. That was in OotP, right? Wasn't that...really important?
All in all, while far from perfect, it's one of the better Potter movies, and I had a good time.

[PipingPringle]

I saw it last night. I really really liked it.

but what you said, mecha cow, I noticed it as well, but marked it off as unimportant, why was it important later?

Anway, what I liked best was

When the final battle was at the ministry. That should have been longer due to it being so awesome! Man, how Lucius Malfoy was all "I'ma wear the mask" *poof* "Now I's not!" and then the Order poofed in with the light. It was SO badass. <3

oh, but it was quite awkward in many parts, making me squirm

[Mecha Cow]

but what you said, mecha cow, I noticed it as well, but marked it off as unimportant, why was it important later?
Like I said, I don't remember the book too well, but I recall it being pretty significant. Here's what Rowling has to say:

"The mirror might not have helped as much as you think, but on the other hand, will help more than you think. You’ll have to read the final book to understand that!"
I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[Dr. Doom]

I don't even remember what the hell the deal with that thing was at this point.

I forget so much about the books after I originally read them... and I don't think I have the will to read through them again. I guess it's Wikipedia for me.

[PipingPringle]

Like I said, I don't remember the book too well, but I recall it being pretty significant. Here's what Rowling has to say:


I guess we'll have to wait and see.

ouh, I didn't know that Rowling had commented on it.. It had just been one of those nagging things that I had been all "what was that about?" about.
Now I'm even more psyched for the book! boo! I was trying to avoid this

[gobo]

Saw it last midnight. Was way better than the last MOVIE because I didn't have the urge to sleep through it. Other than that, my opinion is unimportant since I'm not a big fan of Potter and I'm not familliar with the source material. But, from an outsider's perspective, the cinematic appeal was certainly there.

[Ra]

I saw it, first screening ever in Australia, 10:00 am, Brisbane. I wasn't that keen on going, since they sort of raped their version of the 3rd book (which is my favorite of the series) and really downplayed Sirius (who was my favorite character at the time). Still, I tagged along and got ready for something to confuse me to no end and make a bit of a mockery of the 5th book of Harry Potter.

Boy was I wrong.

The fireworks scene was the best part of the movie, and possibly the best scene from all five movies, hands down. Fred and George zooming around on broom sticks, creating a massive fireworks dragon, and just messing up the exams...man, how I wish that could happen to me in real life... *laughs* It was definately worth my money to see that
I loved that scene in the book, so I was a very happy camper :D

Imelda Staunton (Umbridge's actor) really shines in this movie. From that little cough she does to the little girly giggle...man, she sent shivers down my spine for that. I guess it's the little things that make the difference, no?

But...then we come to the end. Which kind of dissappointed me...
Everything was fine until Sirius's death. It was...well, lame. Which sucked. Majorly. It's a "blink and you'll miss it" kind of a thing if you are wanting to see the spell that hit him. Only when he falls back into that smoking door do you realize what has happened. And the fact that it had no emotional impact on Harry what-so-ever wanted me to throw popcorn at the screne. This is the event that stops Harry from being so... "emo", as my friends called it. Yet all that happened was Radcliff screaming at the top of his lungs with the mute button on in slow motion. Bleh.

I'm kind of upset with lack of Draco Malfoy, too. He was probably in the movie for about 5 minutes total, and he plays a bigger role than what is portraied there. Ah well. Always movie 6...

And one last thing...
Beware rabid fan girls in the flash back to young Snape. Nearly every girl in my cinema screamed at the top of their lungs... :dead:

[Masked Ninja]

See...

I thought Sirius' death in the book was way more anticlimactic and/or confusing. He falls into the archway, and it takes several pages before you even figure out what happened. Here you see the spell hit and he kinda falls/gets sucked into the veil, so you can tell he's definitely going somewhere. The "Harry screams mutely" thing was an odd choice, but it gave the scene more emotion for me than when I read it. And it was less a "Darth Vader" scream than a "look, Gandalf fell" scream, which was not nearly as painful. Really, is there a non-corny way to handle that?
Overall, I did like it. I remember almost everything about books when I read them, so I was constantly noting missing and compressed scenes as I watched, but somehow I wasn't bothered. The scenes left in the book were fun, and will still be there if I choose to read it again, but the movie told one clean story (which is more than we got with Prisoner of Azakaban with all its loose ends and wererat wolf.)

Also, I love how the Harry/Cho Chang thing wasted like 200 pages in the book, and was compressed to a tasty 20 minutes. Huzzah! No weeping and girl-angst! Actually, Harry's angst overall was much more managable, I thought. He was peeved (and rightly so) by certain things but never went around SHOUTING IN ALL CAPS like he did in the book.
So basically, they took my least favorite of the Harry Potter series and made it watchable. I think some kudos are in order... though no doubt the ultra-purists will disagree with me. :trazz:

[PipingPringle]

I agree, I liked this ending better, it's arrangement seemed to have more flow and was less confusing.
I didn't mind missing and changed parts at all. It was done well and, after all, certain changes have got to be made when you convert something onto screen.

[Swany]

I might be going to see it with some friends on monday, last 20 minute are 3-D, having read the book I'm looking foward to some good stuff. Except for the fact the voldermort is totally unscary.

A wee bit aprehensive though, when it comes to Harry Potter, I'm a bigger fan of the books. Especially after all the "Hate Katie" stuff about the girl who pays Cho, I have to wonder, are the fan girls angry because she kisses Daniel Radcliff, or because she kisses the guy playing Harry Potter. Its mental.

[PipingPringle]

That's dumb, I mean, I really dislike the character in the books (which, btw, I'm a bigger fan of as well). But hating an actor because of who she plays? W/E stupid.
I'd never heard of this Hate Katie thing before.

also- I'm jealous that you get to see the 3D version. The last 20 minutes were amazing!

[Swany]

I actually hate the Chos character as well, I hard about the sites in the news paper, the things people were saying was really horrible, racist type stuff too. I really dont get how people an be so nasty.

It a maybe for the 3-D thing though, I hope it goes ahead though, I really want a a pair of 3-D glasses.

Speaking of which, how awesome would sanglasses that looked like 3-D glasses be, I would totally buy a pair. But I'm cool like that. :lol:

[gobo]

I think some kudos are in order... though no doubt the ultra-purists will disagree with me. :trazz:
I agree
Isn't reverse-psychology fun? :P

Well, my viewing-party/couple of friends who do know all the HP stuff (I guess that makes them purists) were only disappointed that a few significant parts of the book were downplayed:
the prophecy (including who made it and how), and the archway Sirius was sucked into.

[PipingPringle]

Isn't reverse-psychology fun? :P
Dang! I'm a psych major and everything!


Well, my viewing-party/couple of friends who do know all the HP stuff (I guess that makes them purists) were only disappointed that a few significant parts of the book were downplayed:
the prophecy (including who made it and how), and the archway Sirius was sucked into.

Hrm, I suppose those points not being expanded on more would make it confusing for non-book-farmilliar people...
I mean, a giant arch -just there- is kind of random
but really, I didn't mind at all.

[Jo Dawn]

Just got back from seeing it...

The big thing I was disappointed in was that they cut out EVERY SINGLE RON/ HERMIONE part from the book, practically. It was all so important, so cute! (Yes, I said 'cute'. :P)

I understand why they had to cut out alot of the major fight, as it wasn't really PG-13 safe, though I wish they hadn't.

Liked how they foreshadowed Harry/Ginny a bit... and I actually liked how they transitioned using the newspapers.
I really did like the little girl that played Luna, heh. She was pretty good. And always good to see Remus again!

And, I'm sorry... But in the movies, Lucius is pretty darn cool. That actor is perfect. Most of them are, for their parts.

And the twins blasting moment... so poignant... so moving... so cool.

But I still mourn the loss of Ron/Hermione moments. Though they tried to sneak in a few.

[Warhorse]

Just got back. I was actually :sleep: with the movie. Like everyone here is saying.

Not enough Hermione and Ron, actually, there was hardly any Ron at all. And I always found Rupert Grint, along with Tom Felton, to be the stronger of the child actors, and they had hardly any speaking moments. Where are Ron's clever little comebacks to Hermione's know it all sarcasm? On a good note, I was pleased with how Luna was handled.

[Roseangelo]

Just got back from the movie... wow, I actually really disliked it. I can deal with all the stuff they had to cut, I knew that was going to happen, but I was screaming obscenities in the car on the way home about the stuff that they blatantly changed. UGH!!!

It felt like everyone spent the entire movie just staring at each other a giving funny looks, watching while something occasionally happened. The biggest criticism of Goblet of Fire was generally that everything moved too fast. Well, I'd take that over this any day.

That said, there were some fantastic character moments in the movie, but that's all they really were: isolated character moments.

Ugh... I still need to decompress from this. As of right now, though, this is my least favorite of all the movies.

[Barkworm]

I'm not a fan of the HP movies so I probably won't spend money to see this.
Did they explain why Sirius died? It always bothered me that Rowling just took for granted that people would understand what happened.

[Roseangelo]

Did they explain why Sirius died? It always bothered me that Rowling just took for granted that people would understand what happened.

Rowling never took anything for granted. We're not supposed to fully understand what happened to Sirius (yet... hopefully).

How Sirius died in the movie was one of the changes I didn't like. Instead of falling behind the veil, Bellatrix did the Avada Kedavra curse on him and he fell through the veil. Wha?

[Barkworm]

Ugh, that's pretty weak.

[Mecha Cow]

Uh, I'm pretty sure it went down pretty much the same way as in the book. Sure, she used the killing curse on him, but he didn't seem to die from it (Did it hit him properly?), it was still the veil that killed him. Unless I am mistaken and LeStrange was not responsible in the book (And I could swear that she was), the scene remains essentially unchanged...It just wasn't very strong to begin with.

[Dr. Doom]

Luna was beyond perfect. I was delighted every time she was on screen.

[gobo]

Having to give my HP-fanatical nephew a chance to see it, I went again today. I picked up a little more this time around (and, I thought I caught it all the first time around). Names stayed with me better. The fact that I wasn't sleep-deprived sure helped. But, as much of a Potter-fan I'm not, this movie wasn't hard to watch again, even this soon. That should say something good about it, right? :)

[gobo]

Oh! And, I still don't understand why the audience laughs when Fudge sees Voldemort, and says "he's back". I would have found it funny if he had asked someone "who was that?" and possibly "what's wrong with his nose". That would have been amusing.

[DrSpengler]

My Review. (http://www.filmsy.com/reviews/harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix-review/)

I'm not a hardcore Harry Potter nut, so I didn't have the easiest time following everything.

It left me a bit unsatisfied. I didn't hate the movie, but I liked Goblet of Fire a whole lot better.

[PipingPringle]

Oh! And, I still don't understand why the audience laughs when Fudge sees Voldemort, and says "he's back". I would have found it funny if he had asked someone "who was that?" and possibly "what's wrong with his nose". That would have been amusing.

hrm.. I don't think they did when I saw it. Also, your lines- much better. You should have been a writer for it ^-^

[gobo]

Why, thank you! ^_^

[Cure]

Oh! And, I still don't understand why the audience laughs when Fudge sees Voldemort, and says "he's back". I would have found it funny if he had asked someone "who was that?" and possibly "what's wrong with his nose". That would have been amusing.

Because throughout the whole movie, he was preaching that Voldemort hasn't returned, only to see him right before his eyes with a dumb expresiion once everything has happened. It was supposed to be ironic.

[gobo]

Irony is smirk-material, not lol-material, I always thought. :ohwell: But, in as much as that's the same answer I get from anyone else who has an answer...

[Dr. Doom]

I didn't know you had been appointed the mayor of comedy.

[gobo]

:blanksta: Nor did I.

Thanks for the news. ^_^ My first order of business should be to outlaw jokes made only to amuse oneself. A dispicable habit, it is.

[Tinuvielsdreams]

I saw the movie the first day cause I couldn't rest until I did. I went into it purposefully not having read the the book in probably about a year (I do frequently re read all of them) I was afraid to read and watch too closely which burned me in the Goblet of Fire.
First of all from a cinematic point of movie I can't say enough about how every aspect of these films have evolved. My faves so far have been this one and The PoA because of the direction and style.
Story wise I know you can not cram one of these books especially the longer ones into a 2 and a half hour film. Things need to be cut and I how you pick what gets cut I do not know but it has to be done.
My noteworthy noteworthy points

-
-Umbridge did a great job
-Harry (Daniel's) acting has come miles
-The way the room of requirement was represented and the use of minor characters including Filch was very entertaining.
-I liked Luna more in the movie then in the book, she was insightful as a character and helped the story flow
-Fred and George's escape
-The final battle went quick but it was effective and chaotic like how I felt while reading it, Sirius's death went quick (Honestly I couldn't handle another drug out sobbing death like Cedric's anyway. I did like the silence and Lupin's reaction and Harry's deafened scream)
-Loved Bellatrix and the way Helena handled her (she is Bellatrix in my book)

Not so happy with...
-The limited use of the order (Wanted to see more Tonk's) and Sirius's house including some of his colorful relatives in their paintings and Kreacher
-Ron and Hermione character's being pushed back (No stories of their own)
-Wanted to see Umbridge butt heads with teacher's more like McGonagall and Snape.
-The way they decided to change the plot with the DA being discovered, and the disclusion of the meeting coins



I know I am missing tons but those were at the top of my head. I bet if I went back and re read the book now I would have pages...

[OA]

Well, I saw the movie this weekend and actually liked it alot...sure they took out alot from the book, but I still found it VERY enjoyable...

I will say, if you get the chance to see it an IMAX, do so!! They showed the final 20 minutes in 3D which was awesome....:D

[Swany]

Just saw it today. It was alright. It was 3-D From going to the ministry on the thestrals to "hes back"

Still, not at all a great movie.

But I think a lot was missed character development-wise. But a lot was missed anyway. THings that annoyed me were-

Umbridge checking out the teachers in a montage. So stuff was missed out with Snape and Mc Gonnagall
Hagrid saying "wont be long till I'm fired" he didnt get fired. McGonnogall didnt get attacked.
Seeing the longbottoms in St mungos. Thus also losing Lockhart (I would have loved to see that)
The chairs Dumbeldore conjours at the hearing. I like it 'caue its a wee bit about his character.
Hagrid was actually hardly in the movie, bummer 'casue I love hagrid.
The Harry-cho kiss. It went on for TOO LONG!
Kreacher telling harry sirius was gone and Snape fetching the order.
Harry threw no tantrums. He only shouted ONCE!. ANd he was suppost be be angry because he was linked with Voldemort, but Dumbledore didnt saw the they were linked.
They didnt play up the Harry-Sirius thing well enough. i.e That harry int his father. The suddenly "Good shot James"
The propehcy, Dumbledore was suppost to explain why Trelanley couldnt leave but instead just made it a good will gesture.
The cenaturs and Firenze.
How did they know levicorpus?
Oh yeah, and the bit with Harry using the unforgivable curse. "You have to mean it" seemed VERY similar to "Yes, let the hate flow through you"...Star Wars anyone?
Cho grassing up the DA, (Fan Girls say "yayyyyy!") but then it turning out that she was given truth serum. Did Harry and Cho even break up?
Percy suddenly appearing, of all the actors they could have chosen.
Who sent the dementors? It was never resolved.

I realised it was turning into a rant. But I'm just a wee bit annoyed. One thing in particular.

The typical movie bit with the good guy-bad guy. "I'm going to stand over you and talk even though you're unarmed and I could totally kill you right now." and that nobody could see Voldemort though the sand but Fudge. (I just couldnt see him!)

I'm not amused, 8quid for a wee bit of 3-D. It just seemed like they hoped people had read the book, or at least glanced through it when the made this movie. The 3-D wasnt even that great, everything had a ghost behind it.

[KROW]

Well, Stormy and I saw this earlier and from my perspective -- which is someone who hasn't read the novels -- I thought it was a pretty decent film. I could follow along, the action was good, the story was clear-cut, and the actors did their jobs well. I enjoyed the spectacle of the magic and the comedy was pleasant. That one line Hermione delivered to Ron had me chuckling. "Just because you've got the emotional range of a teaspoon..."

Not a bad movie, cinematically speaking.

[Barkworm]

I saw it yesterday and... I don't know, the movies simply do not deliever what I like about the books. Also I'm really getting tired of their way of adapting a book, simply by copying the plot and leaving out central parts. At least try to connect everything in a way that makes sense! Like, why was Kreacher even there?! One thing I liked was Sirius's death. In the movie it's clear why he dies. When I first read the novel, I really didn't understand what was going on and especially why no one asked about it. It was after I finished it that I got that the veil was a direct connection to the netherworld and Sirius died by, so to speak falling directly into the afterlife. Seeing that many Potter fans still haven't understood what happened, it would have been way too confusing for the movie audience. I think "GoF" had more memorable scenes even though I think both movies are bad.

[Dude Love]

I was actually surprised by what a friend showed me the other days about the quality of the movies in terms of attention to detail.

Only click on the following link and read the spoiler if you've read all of Deathly Hallows:

This link requires knowledge of Deathly Hallows (http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/9034/dumbledoredevicebigtd4.jpg)

The sign of the Hallows is right there on the left side!

Of course, I can never forgive them for not saying who the Marauders were in Prisoner of Azkaban, but I do say that there are some really surprising references to future years of Harry's life.

I was of the opinion that this movie did a pretty good job. I was much more satisfied with it at its end than any other of the movies. While you complain about how the movies have a track record of glossing over things to put in the main plot (true), this movie really did a good job, considering how much stuff there was to cram in. I feel like it had an excellent sense of place in the greater scheme of the series.