If they revived the old show...

[Vegita-San]

What would you like to see happen?

A complete reboot (some things similair, like Baxter turning into a fly...other things different, like Bebop and Rocksteady being smart..)

Or a Continuation with expandings...(Krang and Shredders first encounter, History of Shredders family upbringings and what brought him to evil)

[Tinuvielsdreams]

haha I just keep thinking of old school Krang and Utrom Shredder...
"My body is better!"
"No my body is better!"
:lol:

[Tabularasa]

I would like a little bit of both. A continuation but also making Shredder more like the evil villian he was supposed to be.

[Sunshine]

I'd like to see Raph a little more like his other incarnations.

[ToTheNines]

They should just syndicate the old toon on Nick, so they would have one show other than sponge bob that wasn't pure ass.

[ZariusTwo]

The sad thing is, Laird could easily afford the show that luxery, a direct-to-DVD movie (five would do) based on the show would be perfect for the current release of the original series, but Laird is a hesitant guy, that's long been proven by the delays on the "Forever War" graphic novel.

[Roseangelo]

...but Laird is a hesitant guy, that's long been proven by the delays on the "Forever War" graphic novel.

And how do we know the delays have anything to do with Peter? I've never assumed anything beyond simply, "It's not done."

Peter would do nothing new with the old toon simply because he doesn't like it.

[VaughnMichael]

I do say though it's time we start hounding them with Forever War letters again though!:D

[Roseangelo]

I do remember Murphy saying something back when he was posting here that he was determined to have it published by the end of this year. I can only hope!! But at least it doesn't sound like it's been forgotten.

[Cascadia]

hmmm...that would be an interesting read.

[themaxonline]

What if they revived the original cartoon and its format but just continued on where it left off. Maybe somehow bring Shredder back as well as some of the other bad guys, just to wrap things up so we can finally have some closure!! I'm sure they could do enough for like 2 seasons.

[Sage Ninja]

What would you like to see happen?

A complete reboot (some things similair, like Baxter turning into a fly...other things different, like Bebop and Rocksteady being smart..)

Or a Continuation with expandings...(Krang and Shredders first encounter, History of Shredders family upbringings and what brought him to evil)

I would love a revival of the classic toon. that would be so kick ass if they. If they did i would like a more continuity and stronger more deloped story arcs. ANd I would like the tome of season seven rather than seasosn eight through ten.

[Sage Ninja]

The sad thing is, Laird could easily afford the show that luxery, a direct-to-DVD movie (five would do) based on the show would be perfect for the current release of the original series, but Laird is a hesitant guy, that's long been proven by the delays on the "Forever War" graphic novel.


I thought Laird didn't have any say in the classic toon franchise? :ohwell:

[Mike Bock]

Peter would do nothing new with the old toon simply because he doesn't like it.

Too bad to hear that. After all that was the show that made me a fan. I love Bebop and Rocksteady !!! I would love to see them come back!! :shredder:

[Time Mistress]

If there were a continuation, how about adapting some Archie storylines - Stump Wrestling, Ninjara, Mighty Mutanimals, Future Shark, heck ANIMATE the Forever War! Done in old toon style, that would rock!

And Sunshine, you have the CUTEST little Raph sig. Who made that?

[OrangeMike]

I miss this show being aired on TV. They should be aired on cartoon Network or something.

[The Shelf]

Y'know, I would much rather they just put Bebop and Rocksteady in the current cartoon when the turtles return from FF. That way we could have a more serious version of Bebop and Rocksteady w/o it seeming out of place. It won't happen but neither will a return of the OT, reboot or not.

[gobo]

I'd just like to see a completely new series based on Archie's TMNT Adventures. Of course, it would have to borrow a few early eps of the classic 'toon.

[KROW]

What would I like to see? Mutanimals!

Bring Mondo, Wingnut, and Screwloose back and have them form a fledgling Mutanimals team with the turtles to fight Krang, Shredder, B & R, and Slash! Bring the frogs back for a spell! Have Leatherhead kick the crap out of Shredder! Introduce Jagwar, Man-Ray, and Dreadmon and have them forge a new Mutanimals! Bring Maligna in for a season-wide story arc! Yes, I'm running with Gobo's idea!

[VaughnMichael]

I thought Laird didn't have any say in the classic toon franchise? :ohwell:
While I believe he has no say really in the dvd releases he has made it clear that he owns all of the characters.
He just chooses not to use any of them because he simply feels they don't belong in what his vision of the ninja turtles are.

[gobo]

I thought Laird didn't have any say in the classic toon franchise? :ohwell:
I completely to comment on this. In the past year, I've gone from thinking exactly what you said to assuming he was just too embarassed to claim any responsibility for the degradation of his original vision. Y'know, like it helped him sleep at night or something. Seems rather ridiculous, but... :ohwell:

[Matt]

I'd like to see a final battle over several episodes. Krang, Shredder and General Tragg carry out a full scale invasion of Earth, with the Technodrome (re-built of course), and maybe Krang return to his original form for a "Divide and Conquer" style battle. So we can actually close the book on the saga.

I think the origins are a good idea, mybe merge them with the final confrontation somehow.

[Scandia]

I'd love to see the OT character designs be incorporated into the NT. The Turtles can keep their belts, wrist/knee/elbow pads, and weapon handle colors...but I want to see a return of the cuddly Turtles from the OT whose eyes you can see.

And bring in OT characters such as Irma and company.

[Spawn Guy]

I'd love to see the OT character designs be incorporated into the NT. The Turtles can keep their belts, wrist/knee/elbow pads, and weapon handle colors...but I want to see a return of the cuddly Turtles from the OT whose eyes you can see.
Tell you what, I'll make Batman cuddly and give him big old baby blue eyes. That'll look cool. Really.

[Scandia]

Batman's different. Bruce Wayne is a human being with a big chip on his shoulder, a vendetta, and possibly PTSD. Turtles- at least red eared sliders- are supposed to be cute. While they do not have to be adorable as if they were plooshies, at least make them appear not as angular as in the NT. The 2007 movie designs are fine- you can see the eyes but the Turtles still look ready for action.

[Spawn Guy]

Yes, but take away the blank eyed look and he looses all that. Same for the guys. As for the "cute" thing, I'm watching MUTANT NINJAS. Not Disney's My Little Turtles. The angular designs work perfectly well for guys who are supposed to have muscles and bulk. If they do add in pupils at least make it look like the Red Sky animation or the sleek CGI look with the angular glare. I don't want to loose the stylised ninja look for a bunch of blow up toys.

In all honesty the word cuddely has no place next to the word ninja.

[Blithe]

Batman's different. Bruce Wayne is a human being with a big chip on his shoulder, a vendetta, and possibly PTSD. Turtles- at least red eared sliders- are supposed to be cute. While they do not have to be adorable as if they were plooshies, at least make them appear not as angular as in the NT. The 2007 movie designs are fine- you can see the eyes but the Turtles still look ready for action.
So, I guess you didn't dig Michael Zulli's interpretation of mutant turtles? Raw, wicked, beautiful stuff!

[Ninjinister]

They should just syndicate the old toon on Nick, so they would have one show that wasn't pure ass.

Edited for truthiness ^^


I still stand by my idea that the series finale of the current run of TMNT (after even the 2008 stuff) should have Turtles of that series and the Turtles of the old series crossing over. It would be a kickass sendoff for fans.

[Revan]

Edited for truthiness ^^


I still stand by my idea that the series finale of the current run of TMNT (after even the 2008 stuff) should have Turtles of that series and the Turtles of the old series crossing over. It would be a kickass sendoff for fans.

There is so much wrong with that idea I don't even know where to start. OT and 2k3 should never crossover, IMO

[Sage Ninja]

While I believe he has no say really in the dvd releases he has made it clear that he owns all of the characters.
He just chooses not to use any of them because he simply feels they don't belong in what his vision of the ninja turtles are.


hmm, I had the impression that he didn't have any say in this series since it went in such a diffrent manner than what his "vision" was. In a interview on the early 2k3 series dvds, he says how the fact the turtles where always running around in public in day light drove him crazy. Well if it bothered him so much why didn't he pull his weight around and have the show stop doing that? I just a little confused. :-?

[VaughnMichael]

hmm, I had the impression that he didn't have any say in this series since it went in such a diffrent manner than what his "vision" was. In a interview on the early 2k3 series dvds, he says how the fact the turtles where always running around in public in day light drove him crazy. Well if it bothered him so much why didn't he pull his weight around and have the show stop doing that? I just a little confused. :-?
No you miss understood what I was saying what I mean is he still owns all of the characters but I'm pretty sure they got a bum deal back in the 80's reguarding the toon when it came to how much say over things they had or perhaps they where simply just to busy to tend to everything going on.
You can read what Peter has to say on the matter here:
http://www.planetracers.com/blast/prblast0073.html

[Scandia]

Blithe- I have not read Michael Zulli's TMNT comics yet. I just hear they are an excellent interpretation.

I did not come up with the word "cuddly" to describe the OT Turtle design. I do not know what else to put. Remember English is my second language!!!!! I just think the NT design- especially in Fast Forward- is way too angular and looks too much like a drawing rather than if it could be 3D. The new movie one works much better. And at least the roundness of the OT Turtles added some 3Dness to it.

In Neutrino's banner, the Turtles look more rounded and thus more like they could stand up and you could touch them. But in Fast Forward, they are completely and totally angular.

[Ninjinister]

There is so much wrong with that idea I don't even know where to start. OT and 2k3 should never crossover, IMO

(Scratches head) I don't see anything wrong with it. Sounds like you just don't want your Coke mixed with your Pepsi.

[odupianist]

It would be a silly episode if they crossed over, but funny I think. THey could crossover at the Battle Nexus :P

[Spawn Guy]

No thanks. Not to totally knock the idea but after alien invasions, massive demon fights and saving the future I think the last thing we need is dimensonal travel. And chances are a lot of people'd bitch about not having the old toon voices or look, since 4Kids dosen't use outside voice actors and the live comic book look their using is perfectly fine. And in all honestly the new toon dosen't really need anything from the old toon.

[General Traag]

Of course it does, it needs krang and the technodrome instead of that imposter ch'rell. :D


(ch'rell was still quite cool though)

[Spike Spiegel]

I would love to see the new toon rerun somewhere...or maybe a direct to DVD release.

But we'll be lucky to get something cool for the new season of the NT.

[jenna]

I love the OT, but I think it has had its day. A large portion of us were kids when it came out, and our love for the tmnt was born, but even with FF, I think the turtles has universally taken on a more mature image (although FF pushes the boundaries!).

The goofiness of the OT worked in the 80s, but kids today probably wouldn't get it - I mean, it doesn't involve any living sponges in the sea. And is it me? or do kids today not have the imagination required to accept the tmnt.

It clear from these forums that most tmnt fans are adults, and the adults in the 80s who loved the comics weren't all that impressed with the OT because it was so.... different.

In a nutshell, the OT is very special and I will keep and love my OT dvds forever, but it is no longer the essence of the turtles. To rerelease it or release a similar version would be a step backwards. (which, I think FF was). In my opinion, each screen incarnation should bring the tmnt closer to the Mirage soul, which so far has been best achieved by 2k3.

However, I wouldn't complain if they wanted to screen the old episodes on TV. I would be there with my hard drive recorder and my finger hovering over the 'record' button. :D

[Ninjinister]

No thanks. Not to totally knock the idea but after alien invasions, massive demon fights and saving the future I think the last thing we need is dimensonal travel. And chances are a lot of people'd bitch about not having the old toon voices or look, since 4Kids dosen't use outside voice actors and the live comic book look their using is perfectly fine. And in all honestly the new toon dosen't really need anything from the old toon.

... But the series already has dimension travel. That's what the whole Battle Nexus and Ultimate Drako stuff was about!

[Spawn Guy]

Alternate turtles then. I know they probably won't do it, but they could hold off on the major sci fi world shacking stuff, and crossing over with the Old Toon is something like that. And I'm with Jenna. Let the new toon be it's own thing. The old toon had it's day and it did perfectly fine. Let it lie.

[Sage Ninja]

personaly I don't we'll ever see a revival of the old show no matter how much us OT fans might want it and how much money it might get. Because for one thing I don't think Peter Laird would want to a revival of the old show to steal the thunder of the 2k3 series which is closer to his vision of his turtles. That would be like giveing your family company to your bastard child you had with exotic dancer instead of your legitimate child you had in proper wedlock.

However I have a question...a lot of people blame the fact that the TMNT franchise doesn't get any respect and is considered kiddy emtertainment because of the old toons benign setting. There for damning any edgier versions of the franchise to be taken seriously. But do you think that this could be solved if the powers that be where to revive the OT with a straight to dvd short mini series that is more mature and adult (while keeping the spirit and charm of the old series) could show that even the old series can be capable of more mature story lines and edgier charactersations that it could help make people as a whole see that TMNT can be an adult franchise as well? I mean since the OT paved the way for TMNT to be main stream with its kiddified setting, maybe it could also pave the way to show that the same medium that was popular as a kids cartoon can can be just as poplular and engaging for an 13 and over audiance, so that other more "mirage" faithful TMNT mediums wouldn't be sneered at by the general public for "trying to be more adult that its supposed too".

I mean I don't see why not. Since the cartoon is twenty years old and much of the fans back then are now adults and a majority of TMNT fans still love the OT cartoon, why not come back with a more adultish version of the OT for them to enjoy? I know I'd enjoy that.

Just a thought. What do every one else here think?

[General Traag]

That is nearly exactly what i'm thinking.
I never understood why they didn't try and give the ot a more serious note now that all the people who grew up with it got in a adult age. I mean in the first 'season' it worked pretty well, it had humor and puns and still was kinda dark. The 'red sky' episodes where a step in that direction too, it just didn't have a well-through thought shredder/krang plot.
And i think with making tmnt 2003 a complete new story they lost alot of the potential viewers (which has nothing to do with the good quality of tmnt 2003 though).

[ToTheNines]

No, it wouldn't be the OT. General people know TMNT can be serious, they just don't like it like that. Regardless, I'm sure you get some idiot who saw the movies and 3 episodes of the OT when they were 5, and who goes to youtube and gamefaqs and goes on about how they hate the new turtles (which they likely haven't even seen), have them watch an OT direct to DVD release that's "dark and adult" they'd rave about the pizza, cowabunga, krang and shredder. So, no. It would not open anyones eyes to anything (altough I would like to see such a DVD :) )

[The Shelf]

I mean I don't see why not. Since the cartoon is twenty years old and much of the fans back then are now adults and a majority of TMNT fans still love the OT cartoon, why not come back with a more adultish version of the OT for them to enjoy? I know I'd enjoy that.

The only people who want "adultish" turtles are fans of the comics and/or the 2k3 cartoon. Fans of the OT (no matter how old they may be now) are the ones complaining about the new movie for its mature feel and lack of pizza. Sure there are exceptions, but those exceptions are not a large enough crowd to warrant such an attempt. I'm not saying I wouldn't like to see it, though, because I actually think it would be kinda neat, but I just can't see a mature take on the OT series taking off very well.

[Drtooth]

Firstly, I don't think the OT voices would work at all with the NT. If they got people from the movie, that's the oldest school we'd be able to get.

But aside from that, Zarius has the true idea. A made for DVD movie based on the old series. That would be absolutely perfect. I don;t see any other option, other than short web toons to bring back old school style turtles.

That said, I'd love to see something like a "What if" deal. Something like a red sky Shredder and Krang series. With an episode where shredder finally get the guts to over throw Krang. Or vice versa. Where Krang becomes unstoppable and gets his original body back, and the Turtles have to team up with Shredder to stop him. Meanwhile Rocksteady and Bebop are only slightly goofy, but a little more threatening, like they were first season.

I'd also love to see some of the better characters like The Rat King get a little more intense.

Something where the characters are more intense but can still have old school style humor. that's what I'd like to see.

[fastforwarddregg]

maybe they would continue the show where it left off when splinter said he is no longer their mentor. ITs hard to say, it ended in November 1996. maybe make it darker, but then it was darker in the red sky years, but probably change the animation.

[General Traag]

I think we could sum it up as a direct-to-dvd movie in the style of the first episodes/red sky (but w/o a red sky pls) which deals with the technodrome and the main villains of the ot (krang, shredder and bebop n' rocksteady are a given, baxter would be cool, rat king etc.).

Should be a bit like the ninja tribunal of the 2k3 series, a overwhelming threat requires the good and bad guys to team up for a grande final.

Now who makes the petition? ^^

[AquaParade]

That's one petition I'd actually sign :lol: The original pilot for the OT kinda had a serialized feel, so even another similar 5 parter would be awesome. Peter Laird could look at it as giving the OT justice, by giving it a little more of that mirage feel;) .

[Kendamu]

Write it like Season 1 was written and give it some decent animation and I'll go for it.

[gobo]

I'd like to see the beaks again.

[ToTheNines]

I'd like to see the beaks again.

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