TMNT Arcade Remake - Would it work?

[Ninjinister]

For whatever reason, I was thinking today about a remake of the original arcade game with characters and designs from the 2K3 series - maybe as a bonus game on an upcoming game or something, or perhaps a downloadable one on Virtual Console/Playstation Network/XBox Live (similar to how Street Fighter II HD is being released as a downloadable game, with completely redrawn sprites).

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/5242/tmntnewjx1.png
(Crappy 10-minute MSPAINT mock-up to illustrate point)


However, then I began to realize; there are a lot of hardcore oldschool-toon fans who would go apescat if this was actually created, and spend many hours on message boards on how much they hate it.

So, I would like your opinion; would you like a game where the sprites and characters are updated to reflect the 2K3 series? How about a version where you begin with the original sprites, but can unlock 2K3 ones (or maybe even FF ones as well)?

[Spitfire]

That would be a great fan made game that's for sure. Make the bad guys into like Hun and stuff. It would be fun.

Old Toon fans would go ape **** but most of the hardcore OS fans I've encountered are intellectually devoid morons. They can't have TMNT without Krang and Shredder. They whine about the new series and how it isn't more like the old toon, then FF comes out and they still whine.

I'd say you or someone who can make games should go for it.

[Coola Yagami]

It's amazing how those handheld TMNT game sprites seem to fit so well over actual arcade sprites.

[bullet]

i think it'd be awesome. i like the 2k3 version of the turtles much more, aesthetically i mean. no, seriously.

Old Toon fans would go ape **** but most of the hardcore OS fans I've encountered are intellectually devoid morons. They can't have TMNT without Krang and Shredder. They whine about the new series and how it isn't more like the old toon, then FF comes out and they still whine.

ironic. i mean as far as getting close to the originals, the 2k3 does a much better job...at least they're not just walking and talking down the street in broad daylight anymore. i mean the OT will always be a memorable and sweet experience...but no reason to go apesh!t over the new series.

[Zachatello00]

Time for an old schooler to go apesauce.

No way! Never in a million years. Usually when old classics are re-done, it's only made worse. It would be like re-writing the Bible, or re-painting the Mona Lisa. Classic works of art should not be tampered with.


That said, if they were to make a new arcade game based on the 2k3 series as opposed to what we've been seeing from Konami over the past couple of years, then I'm in.

[Ninjinister]

It's amazing how those handheld TMNT game sprites seem to fit so well over actual arcade sprites.

They're not overlayed; the Don and background came from Spriter's Resource, the Foot Ninja I ripped myself, and the rest is custom.

[Ra]

Hm, interesting. Very interesting. I say "if done right, most likely". I mean, look at the new TMNT games based off the 2k3 show. They could have been great, but Konami slapped in the rediciously basic game controls and threw in a bad camera with bad controls for good mesure. They proved to me that it's easy to f*** up a game you think will be good.

For this "TMNT Arcade Remake", it should really be given to fans or to people who really are enthusastic about their turtles, and are not motivated by the project for money. It can be done if handled by the right people in the right way, I'm sure of it *nods*

[Mike Bock]

For whatever reason, I was thinking today about a remake of the original arcade game with characters and designs from the 2K3 series - maybe as a bonus game on an upcoming game or something, or perhaps a downloadable one on Virtual Console/Playstation Network/XBox Live (similar to how Street Fighter II HD is being released as a downloadable game, with completely redrawn sprites).

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/5242/tmntnewjx1.png
(Crappy 10-minute MSPAINT mock-up to illustrate point)


However, then I began to realize; there are a lot of hardcore oldschool-toon fans who would go apescat if this was actually created, and spend many hours on message boards on how much they hate it.

So, I would like your opinion; would you like a game where the sprites and characters are updated to reflect the 2K3 series? How about a version where you begin with the original sprites, but can unlock 2K3 ones (or maybe even FF ones as well)?

Do it!!! It's a great idea and I would love to play it. Go ahead please! :D

[Krang]

In regards to the posts that were removed, it's not just "religious debates" that we don't allow here, but trolling about religion as well. If you want to do that, please take it to some sort of religious debate forum, not here.

Now, back on topic. But please, let's not turn this into a thread bashing the original cartoon or its fans (I'm not accusing anyone in particular, I just don't want the thread to head in that direction). Let's be fair here: It's true that there are some obnoxious and whiny fans of the original series, but there are some fans of the comics and 2K3 cartoon who are equally obnoxious and whiny about how the original series is not enough like the comics. Blame the hardcore fans, not what they're fans of.

[ZariusTwo]

This idea not only has a lot of merit, but games like the new fan-made Streets of Rage game prove it can work with commitment.

Whilst the original series will always be unquestionably superior to all other aspects of the franchise for me, I love this concept, it means you can do anything with it, but it also requires a lot of thinking, and a lot of "redecorating"

For instance, would Krang in the final stage be replaced with Ch'rell in his gigantic Shredder armour? Would the Foot HQ replace The Technodrome? You'd have to swipe GBA ending screens for that I think...

[Ninjinister]

My intention was not to get someone's opinion so I could put forth a version of this; I do dabble in programming but I've not the skills nor the time to finish anything. It was just something that popped in my head and I wanted to see what others thought.

In addition, it was never any intention of mine to start any sort of oldschool/2K3 arguement; as a fan of all TMNT, I find them futile. I merely mentioned that some of the more hardcore fans might have issues with an updated version.

[ZariusTwo]

You should'nt care what they think, the diverse fans are far more qualified to judge this than a fan of a specific series

[Wes]

This idea not only has a lot of merit, but games like the new fan-made Streets of Rage game prove it can work with commitment.

You mean Beats of Rage? I think I did play a mod for it it that used sprites from the PC version of the TMNT arcade game a long time ago. I don't recall it being very good, though.

There was a Kill Bill one that kinda rocked. :)

[ZariusTwo]

You mean Beats of Rage? I think I did play a mod for it it that used sprites from the PC version of the TMNT arcade game a long time ago. I don't recall it being very good, though.

There was a Kill Bill one that kinda rocked. :)

Nah, I'm talking this (http://www.bombergames.net/sorr_e.htm)

[Ninjinister]

Nah, I'm talking this (http://www.bombergames.net/sorr_e.htm)

SoRR is God.

[ThirdMarioBro]

^ Damn straight. SoRR is the shinzit.

A remake would suck. The game rides on nostalgia. To remake it would take away it's style and flare that we all remember. Besides, the game doesn't have the merits to stand up against modern competition. I love it to death, but that's the truth. It just shouldn't be done.

[Jamboree]

Funny how this topic was here. Another forum where I hang mentioned this same thing. Apparently it's already trying to be done. although that sprite work you have there is great.

http://www.jsofts.com/tmntengine/index.php

[ZariusTwo]

^ Damn straight. SoRR is the shinzit.

A remake would suck. The game rides on nostalgia. To remake it would take away it's style and flare that we all remember. Besides, the game doesn't have the merits to stand up against modern competition.

"Modern competition" is 90% "sophisticated" crap with movie-length RPG nonsense, about the only decent games are DS titles and shoot-'em-ups.

Besides, this is'nt about a COMMERCIAL remake, just an internet-domain exclusive free remake.

[Ninjinister]

Funny how this topic was here. Another forum where I hang mentioned this same thing. Apparently it's already trying to be done. although that sprite work you have there is great.

http://www.jsofts.com/tmntengine/index.php

I'm actually very flattered. All it took was 10 minutes, and all but the energy and Foot ninja came from spritesheets.

I downloaded TMNT Engine about a week ago; I was kind of disappointed because I thought it was going to be an actual ENGINE, as in a program that would allot users to make their own TMNT. Also; I couldn't pass the first staircase with the bowling balls for some reason. The screen just refuses to scroll.

[Wes]

Nah, I'm talking this (http://www.bombergames.net/sorr_e.htm)

Oh, that looks neat! I'll have to give it a try.

Btw, I reacquainted myself with that Beats of Rage game I mentioned -- if you get an account at LavaLit.com (http://www.lavalit.com/) (the page of the group that made the game), you can download the engine and all sorts of mods for the game. There are even a few TMNT ones there in the demo section, not to mention a slew of others both complete and unfinished. There's even a Battletoads one in which one of the scenarios sees the 'Toads in a zombified Resident Evil type setting...

http://www.wesoteric.com/misc/btoadsbor-1.gif
http://www.wesoteric.com/misc/btoadsbor-2.gif
http://www.wesoteric.com/misc/btoadsbor-3.gif

Wackiness prevails. :)

But yeah, if anyone wanted to make a homebrew TMNT beat 'em up game, this program might be the way to go!

[Ninjinister]

I tried doing a new SoR game on BoR earlier this year, but I never finished it. I never finish any of my homebrews/fangames. I'm so terrible :ohwell: