i know why renet & the triceratons aren't in season 1

[Donatello]

i think they want to keep season one grounded. don't get too zany before they establish a real audience, plus they probably want to introduce casy

[Psycrow]

i think they want to keep season one grounded. don't get too zany before they establish a real audience, plus they probably want to introduce casy

It's easier to establish a franchise with as few characters as possible. Remember, if everyone came in from the first episodes, it would be quite hectic.

[Sauron]

I agree, that'd be like seeing Lando,Jabba,Boba,ewoks,etc in a New Hope. :o

[Aztec General]

Who said the Triceratons aren't in the first season? If I remember correctly the Triceraton figure was listed for the 2nd toy series. Not to mention the following plot hints:

*SPOILERS*
1) The Turtles come across a gang of "underground creatures" in the sewer with technology.
2) They meet a "monster" in Northampton.
3) They encounter "aliens".
4) The "Return to New York" storyline will be in this season. In the Mirage "Return to New York", a Tricertaon named Zog fought alongside the TMNT.

[Sauron]

I never read the summary,but hopefully you're right!

[Stone Ill]

Where exactly where those listed?

[Karpo_007]

Hmm... If the story with Utroms is going to happen at the end of the season, Zog can't be part of Return to New york...

[Aztec General]

Who knows Karp? Laird has changed the order of some of the Mirage events for the new show.

[lhb412]

But the creatures that the trurtles encounter in the "Notes from the Underground" 3 parter are friendly to the Turtles, the Triceratons are bad guys!

[lhb412]

I'd like to add another reason they may not be in season one: to save storylines and characters for further seasons.

[Karpo_007]

Yeah. Well I haven't read the synopses that far yet, So I don't know if t reads there or not..

[Snailman]

Who said the Triceratons aren't in the first season? If I remember correctly the Triceraton figure was listed for the 2nd toy series.

Thats true, they listed that on the ninjaturtles.com website. I finally remembered where I saw it, so here's the link to it:

http://www.ninjaturtles.com/html/forum.htm

Just scroll down through it, & you'll see the figure list & some other press releases.

Not to mention the following plot hints:

*SPOILERS*
1) The Turtles come across a gang of "underground creatures" in the sewer with technology.
2) They meet a "monster" in Northampton.
3) They encounter "aliens".
4) The "Return to New York" storyline will be in this season. In the Mirage "Return to New York", a Tricertaon named Zog fought alongside the TMNT.

I think the "underground creatures" could be mutant animals made by the Utroms. I seem to remember Leatherhead being created as an experiment by the Utroms, so it's entirely possible that they made even MORE mutants just for the show.

-Snailman

[azure turtle]

*gasp*
Could the underground creatures be killer pizzas? :D

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

*gasp*
Could the underground creatures be killer pizzas? :D

Don't even joke about that! :evil:

[azure turtle]

:sweatdro: Lemme guess, you're not a fan of the old cartoon, are you?

[Anarchistguy]

*gasp*
Could the underground creatures be killer pizzas? :D

You mean those Pizza Monsters that were in he video games?

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

:sweatdro: Lemme guess, you're not a fan of the old cartoon, are you?

Just the pizza aspect of it.

[azure turtle]

You mean those Pizza Monsters that were in he video games?
Yep... And they were in an episode of the old cartoon, too.

[Wuffle]

Heh, I think the assumption that Leatherhead'll be in the show is a good one. Even though he only appeared for one issue as far as I know (Mirage series run, at least), him showing up could amplify that whole sci-fi/unknown aspect of TMNT.

[Anarchistguy]

You mean those Pizza Monsters that were in he video games?
Yep... And they were in an episode of the old cartoon, too.

I know. It's was in Attack of the killer pizzas

[Karpo_007]

Heh, I think the assumption that Leatherhead'll be in the show is a good one. Even though he only appeared for one issue as far as I know (Mirage series run, at least), him showing up could amplify that whole sci-fi/unknown aspect of TMNT.

He was introduced in in Tales of TMNT #6 and I heard He was in a regular series issue too, but I haven't read that yet.

[Jephael]

Hey lets not forget that he was a member of the Mighty Mutanimals in TMNT Adventures!

[Karpo_007]

But that leather head is certainly not appearing in the new show.

[Jephael]

Yeah, he was even tamer than the Leatherhead in the old toon (of coarse he was a villian in that universe)

[Karpo_007]

I guess the cartoon is the only universe where he was an enemy of the TMNT.

[Jephael]

Yes but he started out evil in the Archie comics, and was a neutral character in Mirage.

[Karpo_007]

In Mirage he was friend of the TMNT but not too friendly with Humans. The TMNT even gave him their old Lair.

[Mondo_Gecko]

I kinda always thought of Leathehead as two diffrent characters growing up. Theres Leatherhead as a bad guy in the old toon whos always one my fav secondary bad guys. And Good Leatherhead from Archie Comics who helped the Turtles and was part of the Mighty Mutanimals (The Coolest Mutant Group Ever). I just always thought theres bad Leatherhead and good Leatherhead.

I've never read Mirage so i don't know much about "Neutral" Leatherhead. I Just hope that any version of Leatherhead is in the cartoon. Good, Bad or Neutral. Leatherhead's a cool character.

[Straight-Edge]

Leatherhead was also a prominent cast member in the later issues of the Image comic. He met up with the Turtles after the Dragonlord took Leo's hand off, and introduced them to Dr. X, a Utrom he'd befriended, and hoped to help build a Transmat device with, to get back to the Utrom homeworld.

Personally, I hope *this* the the Leatherhead we see in the cartoon. At first, he'd be an enemy, with no real moral basis. But as the Turtles hang around him more and more, he becomes less upset with their presence, but he still doesn't particularly like them. His own agenda should be his primary focus. When its legal, and noble, the Turtles are willing to help out, but when he does something morally or legally illict, the bros have to step in and fight.

[Snailman]

He was introduced in in Tales of TMNT #6 and I heard He was in a regular series issue too, but I haven't read that yet.

He appeared in issue #45 of the normal Mirage Series (at least according to the ninja turtles website). Here's a link to the review of said issue if you wanna read it (or see the cover):

http://www.ninjaturtles.com/comics/mirage/volume01/45/45.htm

Leatherhead was also a prominent cast member in the later issues of the Image comic. He met up with the Turtles after the Dragonlord took Leo's hand off, and introduced them to Dr. X, a Utrom he'd befriended, and hoped to help build a Transmat device with, to get back to the Utrom homeworld.

Really? What issue did this happen in? I'll have pick that up when I get the chance (& can find it for sale).

-Snailman

[Karpo_007]

I don't need a preview, I will probably read the issue Tomorrow. :D

[Eye of Sarnath]

I never knew Leatherhead was in Image... though I never read the Image comics.

[Snailman]

I don't need a preview, I will probably read the issue Tomorrow. :D

Lucky devil... :x/:(


I never knew Leatherhead was in Image... though I never read the Image comics.

Me either, about Leatherhead being in Image that is. But I only have 3 issues (#'s 2,3 & 5), so if Leatherhead appeared in a higher numbered issue I never would have seen it.

Hey, has anyone learned anything new about up coming figures yet, or do we still have to wait another 2 weeks until the Toy Fair?

-Snailman

[Straight-Edge]

>>Me either, about Leatherhead being in Image that is. But I only have 3 issues (#'s 2,3 & 5), so if Leatherhead appeared in a higher numbered issue I never would have seen it. >>

It was around Issue #16, so yeah, it was closer to the end of the series.

>>Hey, has anyone learned anything new about up coming figures yet, or do we still have to wait another 2 weeks until the Toy Fair? >>

I think we're gonna have to wait. Unless that isue of Tomart's comes out this week, in which case we might have pics of April and Casey to tide us over.


>>He appeared in issue #45 of the normal Mirage Series (at least according to the ninja turtles website). >>

Yup, he'd taken in a few members of the Foot, and was using them to build a Transmat device to join the Utroms on their home planet. In many ways, that issue was the precursor to his appearance in the Image series. It built him up as a determined but unable character. He needs others help him do things he's very passionate about doing... While he's reluctant to ask for help, he's more than willing to *force* people to help him.

[Snailman]

It was around Issue #16, so yeah, it was closer to the end of the series.

::nods:: Oh, okay. Well now I know what issue to look for mroe then the others, not that I can find the others at the comic shop I went to anyways. :lol:

I think we're gonna have to wait. Unless that isue of Tomart's comes out this week, in which case we might have pics of April and Casey to tide us over.

Yeah I kinda figured that much. The Casey Jones figure I'm actually looking forward too. I wonder which version of Casey he'll be? I know he starts off as a crazed vigilante only to become the turtles ally further down the storyline. So will he be the crazy, hockey mask warein' guy, or the less crazy Casey? Hey, maybe they'll just give him a removable mask so you could change him from the two?

Yup, he'd taken in a few members of the Foot, and was using them to build a Transmat device to join the Utroms on their home planet. In many ways, that issue was the precursor to his appearance in the Image series. It built him up as a determined but unable character. He needs others help him do things he's very passionate about doing... While he's reluctant to ask for help, he's more than willing to *force* people to help him.

A very different character from the one on the cartoon I think, at least personality & appearence wise (which is basically the 2 main things that make up a character). What was his background for the action figure? I own the figure myself, but a few of the earlier figures I owned I never clipped out their bios. So I have no clue what his "story" is or anything.

I wonder why Playmates didn't make the figure really big? Like at least 8 inches long or something? If it was to get him to fit on the blister card, then they should have just made him deluxe & given him a larger card to accomadate his size. That, or just sell him in a small box or something, anything to have made him retain his large scale size.

I'm pretty damn sure his character wasn't sapposed to be a pigmy mutant aligator. :lol:

Oh well, maybe we'll get a new figure somewhere down the line, wether he appears on the show or not.

-Snailman