Paris sentenced to 23 days in celebrity prison

[Raph's Girl]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070505/ap_en_ce/paris_hilton_55

A judge sentenced Paris Hilton to 45 days in county jail Friday for violating her probation, putting the brakes on the hotel heiress' famous high life.

Hilton, who parlayed her name and relentless partying into worldwide notoriety, must go to jail by June 5 and she will not be allowed any work release, furloughs, use of an alternative jail or electronic monitoring in lieu of jail, Superior Court Judge Michael T. Sauer ruled after a hearing.

The judge, saying "there's no doubt she knew her license had been suspended," ruled that she was in violation of the terms of her probation in an alcohol-related reckless driving case.

"I'm very sorry and from now on I'm going to pay complete attention to everything. I'm sorry and I did not do it on purpose at all," she told the judge before he announced the sentence.

She was then ordered to report to a women's jail in suburban Lynwood by the set date or face 90 days behind bars. The judge's ruling excluded her from paying to serve time in a jail of her choice, as some are allowed.

Hilton was among a series of witnesses who took the stand during the hearing. She testified she believed her license was initially suspended for 30 days and that she was allowed to drive for work purposes during the next 90 days.

She said that when an officer who stopped her in January made her sign a document stating her license was suspended, she thought he was mistaken and did not actually look at the document.

Also called to the stand was Hilton's spokesman, Elliot Mintz. Hilton and her attorneys characterized Mintz as a liaison between Hilton and her lawyers.

Mintz testified that to his knowledge Hilton did not drive during the 30-day period. He said he then advised her that he believed her license was no longer suspended.

The judge called Mintz's testimony worthless and expressed disbelief at Hilton's lawyers.

"I can't believe that either attorney did not tell her that the suspension had been upheld," the judge said. "She wanted to disregard everything that was said and continue to drive no matter what."

As a city prosecutor said during closing arguments that Hilton deserved jail time, Hilton's mother, Kathy, laughed. When the judge ruled, Kathy Hilton then blurted out: "May I have your autograph?"

Paris Hilton looked forward and didn't speak to news media as she left court. Her mother looked upset.

When a reporter asked what she thought of the judge's decision, a visibly angry Kathy Hilton responded: "What do you think? This is pathetic and disgusting, a waste of taxpayer money with all this nonsense. This is a joke."

Defense attorney Howard Weitzman said he would appeal.

"I'm shocked, I'm surprised and really disheartened in the system that I've worked in for close to 40 years," Weitzman said.

He said the sentence was "uncalled for, inappropriate and bordered on the ludicrous."

"I think she's singled out because of who she is," Weitzman said.

Hilton had arrived at the Metropolitan Courthouse 10 minutes late and ignored screams of photographers as she swept in with her attorneys, mother and father, Rick Hilton. Wearing a gray jacket and white shirt over black slacks and with a black headband on, she said nothing and appeared serious.

The celebrity case brought an unusual scene to the austere courthouse south of downtown in a commercial area. As if at a red carpet event, dozens of photographers and reporters lined up at the rear entrance. Yellow police tape substituted for velvet ropes.

Hilton, 26, pleaded no contest in January to reckless driving stemming from a Sept. 7 arrest in Hollywood. Police said she appeared intoxicated and failed a field sobriety test. She had a blood-alcohol level of .08 percent, the level at which an adult driver is in violation of the law.

She was sentenced to 36 months probation, alcohol education and $1,500 in fines.

Two other traffic stops and failure to enroll in a mandated alcohol education program, are what landed the socialite back in court.

On Jan. 15, Hilton was pulled over by California Highway Patrol. Officers informed her that she was driving on a suspended license and she signed a document acknowledging that she was not to drive, according to papers filed in Superior Court.

Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies stopped Hilton on Feb. 27 and charged her with violating her probation. Police said she was pulled over at about 11 p.m. after authorities saw the car speeding with its headlights off.

Mintz said at the time Hilton wasn't aware her license was suspended. A copy of the document Hilton signed on Jan. 15 was found in the car's glove compartment, court papers say.

Hilton was also required to enroll in an alcohol education program by Feb. 12. As of April 17, she had not enrolled, prosecutors said.

Hilton, heiress to the Hilton Hotel fortune, first gained notoriety for her hard partying as a teen. She attracted worldwide attention when a sex tape she made with a boyfriend was released on the Internet.

She stars in the reality-TV series, "The Simple Life," now in its fifth season, with Nicole Richie. She appeared in the 2005 film, "House of Wax" and recently finished filming "The Hottie and the Nottie." She also is a handbag designer and has a namesake perfume.

[Voltron]

She stars in the reality-TV series, "The Simple Life," now in its fifth season, with Nicole Richie. She appeared in the 2005 film, "House of Wax" and recently finished filming "The Hottie and the Nottie." She also is a handbag designer and has a namesake perfume.

I suppose if you succeed at failing, you're still a success, in a sense.

Sometimes I cry for us, guys. Our chances of survival are slim when we pay attention to people like this.

[Ra]

I cry too, Volt. More for the reason that kids actually want to BE like her than the fact that we pay attention to her. There was even a special news report in my area when she visited Australia, and they talked to some girls who said how she was "soooo pretty" and such. Awful. Just awful... *shakes her head*

At least I can openly laugh out loud at her. Finally, someone has hauled her to jail, something that has been on my "to do list" for a few years now. It's only 45 days, but who cares? She's in jail, where hopefully she will be forgotten by the world and we can get on with our normal, every day lives.

Then again, she'll be back. They always come back... *shudders*

[Jo Dawn]

There's gonna be some kinda show about this, I just know it...

Good. She should have gone to jail. Anyone else would have. That part of the article where they say it was too harsh and all that 'because of who she is' was just annoying. 'Anyone else' would have gotten more time, probably, and certainly won't be in a cushy place, like I'm sure she will be.

[LogicDonny]

:lol: Awesome! She deserves it.. Guess she's not all perfect after all.

[bullet]

in the timeless words of martha stewart: "it's a good thing."

[jeff the cheff]

That is so unfair!!!

j/k


I cry too, Volt. More for the reason that kids actually want to BE like her than the fact that we pay attention to her. There was even a special news report in my area when she visited Australia, and they talked to some girls who said how she was "soooo pretty" and such. Awful. Just awful... *shakes her head*




I bet there will be a surge in parents naming their child "Paris".

20 years from now Paris will be a popular name....just watch.

[Mecha Cow]

Why the hell did I read the thread title as 'Paris sentenced to death'?

Well, good to see the little princess isn't above the law. I'm sure her 'jailtime' will be a cakewalk though.

[Raph's Girl]

I bet there will be a surge in parents naming their child "Paris".

Michael Jackson's daughter is named Paris....but not after Paris Hilton...nope...she's named after the city...cuz that's where she was concieved...*shudders* :roll:

[Ra]

I bet there will be a surge in parents naming their child "Paris".

20 years from now Paris will be a popular name....just watch.
Ugh, I wouldn't be surprised if that happened 10 years from now. Some girls in my grade practically worship her...but what the frack has she done?! All the more reason why I am so happy to see her being hauled to jail. And all the more reason why I love that Paris Hilton episode on South Park... :lol:

[LogicDonny]

just like martha in jail.. this shall be easy for her.

[iris]

Sometimes I cry for us, guys. Our chances of survival are slim when we pay attention to people like this.
Yes.

Awesome! She deserves it.. Guess she's not all perfect after all.
"it's a good thing."
I am so happy to see her being hauled to jail.
Since you all love seeing people get what they "deserve," I'm sure you look forward to the day karma comes back and bites you in the ass for taking pleasure in other people's pain.

[bullet]

actually, i think that's exactly what happened. karma came and bit her in the ass. :P

[iris]

actually, i think that's exactly what happened. karma came and bit her in the ass. :P
*sigh*

Forget it. Yay. Something bad happened to someone you don't like. Break out the party favors.

[bullet]

i don't have to dislike her, hahha. she's got nothing to do with me and i don't know her. all i know her by is her actions, and i wasn't even referring to that. notice i said in the words of martha stewart, i was just drawing a comparison between the two. calm down calm down.

[iris]

Calm down? I'm not terribly excited in the first place. Disappointed is more the word I'd use.

[jeff the cheff]

Iris, I don't think a lot of people are excited that she is going to jail. Someone else said earlier what we were all thinking:


Well, good to see the little princess isn't above the law.

So people are happy that money can't buy your way out of jail (sometimes).

[Peanut]

Sounds like Iris is a closet Paris Hilton fan. ;)

ANYWAYS, I'm not a big fan of Paris, but I also don't dislike her. Yeah, she gets all this media attention and she's dumb and blah blah blah, but I don't watch TV, so I never have to deal with it. People who complain about celebrities need to realize they look like jealous little children when they do so.

And really...I found the Simple Life pretty entertaining. My girlfriend loves it, so we would often watch it together. But maybe the entertainment came more from spending time with her and seeing her laugh than anything else.

[Jamboree]

just like martha in jail.. this shall be easy for her.

Exactly. this will be like a vacation for her almost. As to how I feel about it? Good. I don't care for her too much, and it's good to see that she isn't special and gets arrested just like everyone else, as someone mentioned.

[RaphistheBest]

actually, i think that's exactly what happened. karma came and bit her in the ass. :P

*sigh*

Forget it. Yay. Something bad happened to someone you don't like. Break out the party favors.


Of course people break out the party favors when someone they don't like have something bad happen to them. It's human nature. If both of her parents were murdered in an extremely sadistic way I don't think that a lot of people would cheer for that.

For me, I can't stand Paris Hilton and hell yea she got what she deserves. My sister is obsessed with her and I can't stand it. Most of the people in my home town can't stand her either. I remember working at the theater there when the wax house came out. The first showing was great because when it got to the part where she got the pipe thrown through her forehead the entire theater cheered. People cheered every time. It was great :lol:.

[iris]

Of course people break out the party favors when someone they don't like have something bad happen to them. It's human nature. If both of her parents were murdered in an extremely sadistic way I don't think that a lot of people would cheer for that.
Hm. Guess I'm not human. Come to think of it, that would explain the tentacles. ;)

Although, you're wrong; there are people who cheer extremely sadistic things. That doesn't mean you have to.

[RaphistheBest]

Ok, you're right. There are people that are extremely sadistic and would cheer about that. I guess that I should have said was that the number of people that would cheer about her parents being murdered would be less than the number of people that are cheering about her having to serve jail time. I certainly wouldn't cheer about her parents dying and I would like to think that I'm not friends with anyone that would.

[zkarlette]

I just think that the law should be fair , celebrities should be punished just like regular people do if they do Indeed break the law.
not because you act on t.v or in her case does nothing... means you can break the law freely and put people in danger by drunk driving.

[Cure]

not because you act on t.v or in her case does nothing...

Well, she was in that one really crappy movie "House of Wax". :lol:

[zkarlette]

Excuse me.. I meant she first became famous for doing Nothing... and then she got the crappy movie gig , in which she made the much aclaimed performance of being a skank and dying.

[Cure]

Excuse me.. I meant she first became famous for doing Nothing... and then she got the crappy movie gig , in which she made the much aclaimed performance of being a skank and dying.

I know. I was just joking around. Sorry, didn't mean to get you mad.

[zkarlette]

Don't worry TheCure I wasn't mad at all , I meant it as a sarcastic/funny remark I knew what you meant, I guess I forgot to put the :lol: at the end of the post...:ohwell:

[iris]

I don't really like Paris Hilton, but I don't think anyone can say she does nothing. She's had several successive business ventures going. The girl is much smarter than she makes herself out to be.

I just think that the law should be fair , celebrities should be punished just like regular people do if they do Indeed break the law.
not because you act on t.v or in her case does nothing... means you can break the law freely and put people in danger by drunk driving.
No worries, 45 days in County is actually more than the average person would get for her violations. They've decided to make an example of her. The jail where she's going has violence problems, so since she's high-profile she'll probably spend most of her time in solitary. Yay... we've locked Paris Hilton in a dank pit for a month and a half. It's a proud day for America.

[bullet]

cowabunga. :P

[RaphistheBest]

cowabunga. :P

Well put. :P

[Jester]

I just loved that she's the victim.

"I broke the law, but I'm the victim..."

[Revan]

^ Oh but she has such a tough life

[Aries10]

This thread brings me much joy!

[bullet]

it could be extremely stressful deciding which reservations to make for dinner each night!

[RaphistheBest]

And I can't even comprehend the stress she has to deal with when it comes to shopping. I mean, all that money and so little to buy. OMG! What if she runs out of things to buy! What would she do then?!

[iris]

Heh... Paris Hilton isn't a victim any more than I am.

But some of y'all need to find your country on this list (http://www.wfp.org/country_brief/index_region.asp) and get some perspective about just who falls into the categories of "Spoiled and Rich" and "Born Into Wealth".

[Revan]

She is no victim. She thinks she is the only one who has ever felt pressure. I just love this thread.
Paris should have to follow the law like every other American, even if she doesn't know she is an American.:lol:

[Mr. Snackpants]

HA! Now she's trying to get a pardon by zee governator...how pathetic. She deserves wht she got. Drinking and driving is very serious...being born into a rich family should be able to save you.

[Tinuvielsdreams]

She just thinks that since she is a celeb she gets punished harder. Personally I think it is the other way around. I have never heard of a non famous person getting away with nearly as much crap as she does.
I just wish I had half her privilege. She could have done anything she wanted...her sister seems to have a much more level head.

[zkarlette]

I think that the reason she's so desperate to appeal is that she's scared as hell of the major beating that the other women in jail must be already planning:lol:

[RaphistheBest]

I can just see it now. They'll screw with her first by asking questions about makeup tips and such and just when she really gets into helping these women...BAM! She gets totally thrashed.

[Anarky]

I deliberately waited a while to post this since my initial post would have been way, way angrier...

Now then, I guess everyone's heard it. Paris Hilton isn't really going to jail. She's going to Celebrity-Jail for three weeks plus a bit. That's basically like a hotel room. Nice. And why did she suddenly get this amazing special treatment? She appeared to court on time.

And so I ask myself if I'm the only person who sees the Orwellian irony in this whole situation. I mean, if you look at it from an Animal Farm point of view, it becomes so ridiculous. To give you the short form: At one point in the book, someone said "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others." If you ask me, this is more than an outrage. This is a blatant offense against everything the glorious United States and democracy in general stands for. I don't even care if she bought herself out of prison or if the judges thought that she's a nice girl after all, but this is offending at the deepest level. And what is even worse, why is everyone too blind to see it?

And my guess isn't on buying herself out of prison anyways. Paris Hilton can't go to normal prison. There isn't a chance in hell she'd make it out of there healthy. After all, we remember that announcement by that Lesbo-Gang who threatened to rape her. Assuming Paris would have been sent to prison and would have indeed gotten raped or beaten up, like so many women before her in the same prison, what would have happened when she'd gotten out? Naturally, she'd have talked about it, and as it is with Paris Hilton, when she says something, the world listens. Short: It would be a public relations nightmare for the US-justice system.

[iris]

And my guess isn't on buying herself out of prison anyways. Paris Hilton can't go to normal prison. There isn't a chance in hell she'd make it out of there healthy. After all, we remember that announcement by that Lesbo-Gang who threatened to rape her. Assuming Paris would have been sent to prison and would have indeed gotten raped or beaten up, like so many women before her in the same prison, what would have happened when she'd gotten out? Naturally, she'd have talked about it, and as it is with Paris Hilton, when she says something, the world listens. Short: It would be a public relations nightmare for the US-justice system.
Exactly what I was thinking. Only, I don't think people would believe her, or care, and I'm not OK with sacrificing the girl.

I really hate that people can buy their way into the hotel prison. That just means that the regular prisons won't be fixed because the people with the money and the power aren't affected by that issue. But it's really not Paris Hilton's fault that messed up law exists.

US prisons are a travesty because people are stupid enough to believe that people who go to prison "deserve whatever they get in there."

[Anarky]

It doesn't matter if people believe her or not when she says she was raped and/or beaten. It doesn't even matter if it's true. The media will pick it up no matter what and then there will be one guy or girl who had it happening to him whil ehe was in prison and voilà, a perfect public relations nightmare.

And I really don't think she bought herself into Celebrity Prison. I think that whoever's in charge of picking prisons decided she had to go to CP because whatever happens to her in normal prison and she'd talk about would end up in a huge debacle for the US-justice system. Even if she said "I got addicted to cocaine in prison" regardless of whether she was addicted before or never snorted a single line. The media will listen, then someone will step forward who had it actually happening to him and voilà, PR-nightmare ensues. Therefore it was the best thing to have Paris sheltered from regular prison so that she can't talk about anything that happens there. Because if she says "They got me cocaine in prison" everyone knows that it was celebrity prison and that people in there get all kinds of special treatment anyways.

But I think the bigger issue altogether is the Orwell-thing I mentioned above.

[iris]

Maybe. I think I'm a little jaded about it because I actually try to get people to pay attention to this stuff. I don't think people will care. It won't be a PR nightmare. Most Americans know that prisoners are raped and that prisons are rife with violence and social diseases. But it's some kind of big joke here. Don't drop the soap Har Har Har. :p

I didn't get your point about Orwell...? (I've read Animal Farm though.)

[Voltron]

Thank God. We can't imprison our celebrities! You have no idea what they mean to the nation! I mean, could you imagine what kind of sex tape she would have to make in a gruff, NORMAL prison? Dispicable.

She'd have to sleep on something other than goose down, and bathe in water instead of the blood of virgins.

Well, I for one am thrilled she's getting the royal treatment at some minimal security vacation prison. If she didn't, she might have learned something, and I shudder to think what this world would be like if Paris Hilton had half a brain.

[iris]

I really don't understand the anger people have toward Paris Hilton. It seems to be in the same vein of reasoning that Dem Terrists use to convince themselves they're justified in committing atrocities against the western world.

Get a grip. If you're sitting at a computer connected to the Internet, just killing time, chances are good that you have no reason to complain about other people's extravagance.

[Jo Dawn]

People are angry because it's unfair, and there's no justifying it. She did something wrong, she should do what she has to, to pay for it. Not some special 'not-as-bad' punishment. I think it's a travesty that they even consider lightening any kind of sentence with her.

And in regarding her, though I had no respect for her at all, I'm in the negatives now, with her despicable crying about this. Anybody with any decorum or respect would just own up to what they did and pay for their crimes. Especially since it's so cut and dry that she was wrong.

I, personally, cannot fathom why people would lower themselves to defending her. She did something wrong, people. She's not above the law.

Oh, wait. She is. Gotta love our legal system.

Well, I for one am thrilled she's getting the royal treatment at some minimal security vacation prison. If she didn't, she might have learned something, and I shudder to think what this world would be like if Paris Hilton had half a brain.

Hah! No kidding, or what?

[Mecha Cow]

I really don't understand the anger people have toward Paris Hilton. It seems to be in the same vein of reasoning that Dem Terrists use to convince themselves they're justified in committing atrocities against the western world.

Get a grip. If you're sitting at a computer connected to the Internet, just killing time, chances are good that you have no reason to complain about other people's extravagance.
What is it with you? Is it really that hard to understand that people are upset because someone is escaping the consequences of her actions just because she is famous?

I'm sure poor old Paris really appreciates you sticking up for her and her millions of dollars every time someone makes a comment about her though.

[iris]

People are angry because it's unfair, and there's no justifying it. She did something wrong, she should do what she has to, to pay for it. Not some special 'not-as-bad' punishment. I think it's a travesty that they even consider lightening any kind of sentence with her.

And in regarding her, though I had no respect for her at all, I'm in the negatives now, with her despicable crying about this. Anybody with any decorum or respect would just own up to what they did and pay for their crimes. Especially since it's so cut and dry that she was wrong.

I, personally, cannot fathom why people would lower themselves to defending her. She did something wrong, people. She's not above the law.

Oh, wait. She is. Gotta love our legal system.
I'm not defending her. I just despise lynch mobs.

Of course they considered lightening the sentence. Apart from the appeals system, the sentence was heavy to begin with. 45 days in County solitary is NOT a light sentence for driving without a licence and having an attitude problem. They were making an example of her.

Rich people get lighter sentences because they have the money for better legal defense, are better informed, and know what their rights are. Is it right that poor people get heavier sentences for being poor? Of course not. But it's backward to say that rich people should get heavier sentences to make them even with people who have less money. How about everyone else getting better legal representation? How about improving prisons? No, let's just get angry at people for having more money than everyone else.
I'm sure poor old Paris really appreciates you sticking up for her and her millions of dollars every time someone makes a comment about her though.Yeah, she does. I got a thank you card and a Porsche from her this morning.

ETA: You want to know what's with me? OK. I'm exasperated because so many people care about the fate of OMG Paris Hilton!!, but nobody seems to care about the 19-year-old who gets busted for marijuana possession, gets minimal legal representation, gets a long mandatory sentence because it was OMG DRUGS!!, and gets AIDS for the rest of his life because prison rape is a joke.

[Jester]

Wasn't she on probation also for previous crimes...so the charges are violating probation, and driving on a suspended licence. What's a "normal" sentence for that be?

[Anarky]

I didn't get your point about Orwell...? (I've read Animal Farm though.)

Okay, in the beginning of the book, every animal is equal after the revolution. As we all know, the pigs get corrupted by power at one point. Like "No animal is allowed to sleep on the bed. Apart from the pigs." and at one point, someone says (now this is translated back from German): "All animals are equal. But some animals are more equal than others." So basically, while everyone is the same, some are the-same-er, meaning that they're allowed to do things nobody else is allowed to do in a system where nobody should be allowed to do things.

And I don't get the hatred against Paris Hilton either. I mean, sure, she does an amazing lot of dumb things, but I doubt she sentenced herself to prison. That's still the judge's and jury's job, if I remember correctly.

[Jester]

I think that's the source of the anger, the whole "Some animals are more equal than others." If this was anyone else who did what she did....there'd be no question where we'd end up. That and she can be a failure and still fall back on daddy's money. I think that's what it is. She's just some dim bimbo who's famous for being a rich party girl who occasionally attempts to go legit with a crappy movie or TV show, something normal people couldn't do.

[iris]

Okay, in the beginning of the book, every animal is equal after the revolution. As we all know, the pigs get corrupted by power at one point. Like "No animal is allowed to sleep on the bed. Apart from the pigs." and at one point, someone says (now this is translated back from German): "All animals are equal. But some animals are more equal than others." So basically, while everyone is the same, some are the-same-er, meaning that they're allowed to do things nobody else is allowed to do in a system where nobody should be allowed to do things.
I think I get it now. Thanks for explaining. I always took that book as a diatribe about the development of communist dictatorships, but it works here too.

Thing is, if we go with the Orwell metaphor, in this case not only do the pigs have more rights, but everyone else has fewer rights than they're supposed to have. I don't think the pigs should have more rights, but I also don't that the solution is to take rights away from them until they've also got less rights than they're supposed to have. :p

Wasn't she on probation also for previous crimes...so the charges are violating probation, and driving on a suspended licence. What's a "normal" sentence for that be?
Yeah, her license was suspended because she was convicted on a DUI (misdemeanor conviction where she pled no contest) and she was on probation for that. So you're right it was more than just driving on a suspended license (also a misdemeanor in CA).

If that judge was serious about punishing Paris Hiltion instead of wasting time and taxpayer money on being dramatic, I bet Paris Hilton would be serving 45+ days in a prison where she didn't need to be in solitary for her own protection, and we wouldn't be hearing about this "time off for showing up" nonsense now.

[Mecha Cow]

ETA: You want to know what's with me? OK. I'm exasperated because so many people care about the fate of OMG Paris Hilton!!, but nobody seems to care about the 19-year-old who gets busted for marijuana possession, gets minimal legal representation, gets a long mandatory sentence because it was OMG DRUGS!!, and gets AIDS for the rest of his life because prison rape is a joke.

What...The hell are you talking about? This has nothing to do with anything.

*E*
If that judge was serious about punishing Paris Hiltion instead of wasting time and taxpayer money on being dramatic, I bet Paris Hilton would be serving 45+ days in a prison where she didn't need to be in solitary for her own protection, and we wouldn't be hearing about this "time off for showing up" nonsense now.

SO YOU AGREE! This is everyone's entire damn point!

[愛]

I'm with Mecha. Have you been doing some of those drugs?

[iris]

What...The hell are you talking about? This has nothing to do with anything.
LOL... Yeah, that's what the politicians say, too.

Paris Hilton did a Bad Thing, and has more than enough money for good legal defense.
Johnny Nobody did a Bad Thing, and has to depend on crappy court-appointed counsel (not to insult them, mostly they just have too many cases).

Basically, instead of being angry that Johnny Nobody has crappy defense, we get angry that Paris Hilton has good defense.

This makes sense how?


If that judge was serious about punishing Paris Hiltion instead of wasting time and taxpayer money on being dramatic, I bet Paris Hilton would be serving 45+ days in a prison where she didn't need to be in solitary for her own protection, and we wouldn't be hearing about this "time off for showing up" nonsense now.
SO YOU AGREE! This is everyone's entire damn point!
The difference is the "in a prison where she didn't need to be in solitary" part. Upthread people are laughing at the idea of her getting beat up in County. I guess prison violence ain't funny to me. :p

[gobo]

And, her entire damn point was that people are being rather nasty about it instead of doing something to fix the problem. All I've read here was "What? Celebrities get special consideration?! Instead of making constructive criticism of any kind, I'm going to piss and moan and make a fool of myself". That kind of attitude gets an individual ignored. That's all she was complaining about. Or, then again, she was probably complaining about other stuff that I didn't catch as well.

[Mecha Cow]

Paris Hilton did a Bad Thing, and has more than enough money for good legal defense.
Johnny Nobody did a Bad Thing, and has to depend on crappy court-appointed counsel (not to insult them, mostly they just have too many cases).

Basically, instead of being angry that Johnny Nobody has crappy defense, we get angry that Paris Hilton has good defense.

This makes sense how?

It makes sense, but it has nothing to do with this thread. People are angry because Paris is escaping her punishment, which -make no mistake- is a result of her fame. They are not angry because Paris is famous, at least not in this scenario.

The difference is the "in a prison where she didn't need to be in solitary" part. Upthread people are laughing at the idea of her getting beat up in County. I guess prison violence ain't funny to me.
Again, this has nothing to with this thread. I haven't read every single post here, but I don't recall anyone saying anything like this.

Look, it's not that I think you're wrong per se, but you're angry at something that just isn't there, at least not right here in this thread.

And, her entire damn point was that people are being rather nasty about it instead of doing something to fix the problem. All I've read here was "What? Celebrities get special consideration?! Instead of making constructive criticism of any kind, I'm going to piss and moan and make a fool of myself". That kind of attitude gets an individual ignored.
Not only is this another case of being angry at something that isn't there, you're also doing the exact same thing you're accusing others of doing. You're right though, I should just ignore you.

[Voltron]

ETA: You want to know what's with me? OK. I'm exasperated because so many people care about the fate of OMG Paris Hilton!!, but nobody seems to care about the 19-year-old who gets busted for marijuana possession, gets minimal legal representation, gets a long mandatory sentence because it was OMG DRUGS!!, and gets AIDS for the rest of his life because prison rape is a joke.

And you're making such a huge difference, Iris. If. . . if only you ran the world. . . if only. :cry:


It kind of makes me want to break out in song. . .

If Iris ran the world
It'd be a better place
Everyone would escape jail time
We'd just let them go on faith

If Iris ruled the world
criminals would roam the streets
Because courts would give a second chance
Now wouldn't that be neat?

If Iris ran the world
selling pot would just fine
even if you sold it to little children
you'd never be confined.

Oh yeah! Jail sucks
It sucks real hard
And it's too harsh for a big blonde RETARD
So come on people lets all join hands
and love each woman! Child and man
We can set her free if we just try
There's no need to make criminals cry
Oh no. . .
Oh no. . .

Let's free Tibet while we're at it. . .

And love your brother. . .
Just not in a prison shower. . .
Because that's where AIDS comes from. . .
Yeah. . .

I for one LOVE lynch mobs. They have such an effecient way of getting things done, and they bring so many people together. I mean, think of a world where you actually had to rely on the idea of one person to get something done. Do you know what that's called? I do. It's called dictatorship, and personally? I think one Hitler was enough.


All joking aside, though, I hope they give her the chair.

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lmfao. big blonde retard on the chair seems a bit harsh, dunnit?

[Voltron]

Some of that was a joke.

[iris]

Voltron... I'm honored. It's been years since I've earned enough ire to be reviled in song. :embarass: lmbo

Look, it's not that I think you're wrong per se, but you're angry at something that just isn't there, at least not right here in this thread.I won't harp on this any more, but after reading the thread again I still disagree with that assessment.

Mecha, I think you have more faith in people's good will than I do. Kudos.

[Mecha Cow]

Mecha, I think you have more faith in people's good will than I do. Kudos.
Here's the thing though. None of this has anything to do with good will. At all. I'm sorry, none of your posts are making any sense to me whatsoever. I'm not even sure if I agree with you or not because I just don't have a clue what you're trying to say.

Voltron - You win the internet.

[gobo]

And, her entire damn point was that people are being rather nasty about it instead of doing something to fix the problem. All I've read here was "What? Celebrities get special consideration?! Instead of making constructive criticism of any kind, I'm going to piss and moan and make a fool of myself". That kind of attitude gets an individual ignored. That's all she was complaining about. Or, then again, she was probably complaining about other stuff that I didn't catch as well.
Not only is this another case of being angry at something that isn't there, you're also doing the exact same thing you're accusing others of doing. You're right though, I should just ignore you.
Ooh! That stings. I underestimate you, RoBovine. You are thicker than I had imagined. By addressing those who create the issue, I'm not even close to "doing the exact same thing [I'm] accusing others of doing". If you want to ignore me though, go right ahead. Prove my point if you must.

[Voltron]

Alright, break it up.

I think four pages is more attention than this deserves. Locked before any real fights start.