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Katie
01-02-2007, 11:51 AM
BEVERLY HILLS, California (AP) -- George Lucas said Friday that filming of the long-awaited "Indiana Jones" movie will begin in 2007.

Harrison Ford, who appeared in the three earlier flicks, the last one coming in 1989, is set to star again.

Lucas said he and Steven Spielberg recently finalized the script for the film.

"It's going to be fantastic. It's going to be the best one yet," the 62-year-old filmmaker said during a break from preparing for his duties as grand marshal of Monday's Rose Parade.

Exact film locations have not been decided yet, but Lucas said part of the movie will be shot in Los Angeles.

"George, Harrison and I are all very excited," Spielberg said, according to The Hollywood Reporter. "We feel that the script was well worth the wait. We hope it delivers everything you'd expect from our history with Indiana Jones."

In a statement, the 64-year-old Ford said he was ready for another turn as the globe-trotting archaeologist. "I'm delighted to be back in business with my old friends," he said. "I don't know if the pants still fit, but I know the hat will."

The fourth chapter of the "Indiana Jones" saga, which will hit theaters in May 2008, has been in development for over a decade with several screenwriters taking a crack at the script, but it only recently gained momentum. According to The Hollywood Reporter, the script that met the three principals' approval is by David Koepp ("Jurassic Park," "War of the Worlds," "Spider-Man").

Lucas kept mum about the plot, but said that the latest action flick will be a "character piece" that will include "very interesting mysteries."

"I think it's going to be really cool," Lucas said.

At the inaugural Rome Film Festival in October, the 64-year-old Ford said he was excited to team up with Lucas and Spielberg again for the fourth "Indiana Jones" installment. Ford said he was "fit to continue" to play the title role despite his age.

Ford played Indiana Jones in 1981's "Raiders of the Lost Ark," 1984's "Temple of Doom" and 1989's "The Last Crusade."

Lucas praised Ford for breathing life into his character.

"Mostly it's the charm of Harrison that makes it work," he said.

Duke
01-02-2007, 11:16 PM
This is awesome. I've been looking forward to the return of Indiana Jones for far too long. So it's good to hear that the have finally set a date for filming.

MadPirateBunny
01-02-2007, 11:22 PM
Is this where I put the customary snakes line?

Brian
01-04-2007, 11:26 AM
I really liked "Temple of Doom" and "The Last Crusade", so I hope this one turns out good.

Raph's Girl
06-22-2007, 04:39 PM
Looky folks! It's old Indiana Jones! He's still a hottie.. :evilgrin:

http://www.indianajones.com/community/news/news20070621.html

http://www.indianajones.com/community/news/img/20070621.jpg

Janus Prospero
06-22-2007, 05:22 PM
I only have one thing to say to this...

"w00t!"

Revan
06-22-2007, 08:49 PM
Ha Kudos to Indiana for actually managing to make archeology, cool!

RaphistheBest
06-23-2007, 12:38 AM
Ha Kudos to Indiana for actually managing to make archeology, cool!

Hehe... that's funny. =^.^=

Andrew NDB
06-23-2007, 12:51 AM
The working title for the film is "Indiana Jones and the City of Gods," btw.

Jo Dawn
06-23-2007, 11:45 AM
I heard Shia LeBouf was going to be in this. Is that still a yes, or no?

And, um... Oh yeah I'll see this in the theaters, definitely. I love Indiana Jones.

ThirdMarioBro
06-23-2007, 12:40 PM
Indiana Jones FTW. I can't believe they are actually going to finally make it.

KROW
06-23-2007, 01:55 PM
Excellent. I can't wait for this one. I wonder who his opponents will be, though? They surely can't use Nazis... can they?

I heard Shia LeBouf was going to be in this. Is that still a yes, or no?
I wouldn't be surprised if he is; he's in everything nowadays, it seems.

Raph's Girl
06-23-2007, 02:02 PM
I heard Shia LeBouf was going to be in this. Is that still a yes, or no?

Yea.. Shia's in it. He's either the sidekick or Indiana's son....course he could be both :lol:

Barkworm
06-24-2007, 03:42 PM
I'm torn on this. I mean, a new Indy movie is great and all but Ford is really, REALLY old now.

Duke
06-24-2007, 04:00 PM
Excellent. I can't wait for this one. I wonder who his opponents will be, though? They surely can't use Nazis... can they?I heard a long time ago (so I don't know if there still any validity to it or if there every really was any validity to it for that matter) that it was supposed to take place during the Cold War and his enemies would be the soviets.

Raph's Girl
06-25-2007, 10:16 PM
Entertainment Tonight showed some behind the scenes filming of Indiana Jones 4. Didn't mention who Shia's character was but it showed him in a 50's style roadster. Totally SW33T car. :D

KROW
06-25-2007, 10:19 PM
I heard a long time ago (so I don't know if there still any validity to it or if there every really was any validity to it for that matter) that it was supposed to take place during the Cold War and his enemies would be the soviets.
Oh, awesome. I hope that's true. It could definitely work. I'd love to see Indy trade fists with a big Russkie, speak Russian, and dress up like a Soviet soldier.

Mecha Cow
06-26-2007, 09:38 AM
I thought it was confirmed ages ago that Shia LeBouejhfsa was playing Indy's son.

Drtooth
06-26-2007, 12:13 PM
HA! AHAHAHA!!! HA! I told you it was gonna be made! I TOLD YOU!!!! I WAS RIGHT!!!

I really hope Hasbro has the toy license... I want an Indiana Spud!!

JetsAndHeels
06-26-2007, 12:19 PM
I really hope Hasbro has the toy license... I want an Indiana Spud!!

They do have the license. This is from www.toynewsi.com:

"Indiana Jones, the world’s greatest action hero, returns to theaters May 22, 2008, and his newest on-screen adventures will be supported by an impressive array of leading companies as part of a broad global licensing and promotional campaign across a wide range of product categories designed to appeal to all ages.

In the toy category, Hasbro, Inc. (NYSE:HAS) will develop a broad line of action figures, vehicles and role play as well as games.

LEGO, the world’s best-selling construction toy brand, has also come on board as the exclusive licensee for building sets."

Stimor
06-26-2007, 12:49 PM
HA! AHAHAHA!!! HA! I told you it was gonna be made! I TOLD YOU!!!! I WAS RIGHT!!!

I really hope Hasbro has the toy license... I want an Indiana Spud!!

it was still a guess, no way you knew it for a fact so it does not really mean crap!

Revan
06-26-2007, 01:04 PM
HA! AHAHAHA!!! HA! I told you it was gonna be made! I TOLD YOU!!!! I WAS RIGHT!!!

I really hope Hasbro has the toy license... I want an Indiana Spud!!it was still a guess, no way you knew it for a fact so it does not really mean crap!
Yeah tooth. you guessed right

KROW
06-26-2007, 02:22 PM
HA! AHAHAHA!!! HA! I told you it was gonna be made! I TOLD YOU!!!! I WAS RIGHT!!!
Uh... That's strange. Way back on Inside the Actors Studio with Harrison Ford, he mentioned that a fourth will be done. That was a couple years ago, I think, if not more.

Drtooth
06-26-2007, 02:33 PM
They do have the license. This is from www.toynewsi.com:

"Indiana Jones, the world’s greatest action hero, returns to theaters May 22, 2008, and his newest on-screen adventures will be supported by an impressive array of leading companies as part of a broad global licensing and promotional campaign across a wide range of product categories designed to appeal to all ages.

In the toy category, Hasbro, Inc. (NYSE:HAS) will develop a broad line of action figures, vehicles and role play as well as games.

LEGO, the world’s best-selling construction toy brand, has also come on board as the exclusive licensee for building sets."


SWEEET! I had a feeling, since they have the license of Lucasfilm... I really enjoy those Galactic Heroes (though I don't collect them for financial reasons) and the Mr. potatohead toys are great... I really hope for both of them with an Indiana Jones license...

As for the thing about I knew they were gonna make it, I remembered just now it was another site that said that. I read a stub in a newspaper that they were going to make it a year or so ago, and everyone shot me down, thinking it was a rumor. I know there was a lot of problems coming up with a good conception, but I'm glad they finally got it together...

of course, it won't mean it will be any good... I mean, any anticipated Sequal to a stalled franchise.... we haven't had the best results so far...

Raph's Girl
09-10-2007, 09:17 PM
Aaaand we have a title!! Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

Shia LaBeouf announced the title last night.

Now I've been into the Crystal Skull story for years so this will be fun. Many people believe the skulls (there's 13 of them according to myth, 5 have been found. 1 is owned by a woman in Canada) have a link to Atlantis. The film is set in 1957 but...most of the currently known skulls were found in the 20s and 30's. Hmmm...

There's been several shows and movies that have dealt with them already (American Dragon, Stargate SG1, Veratas The Quest, M.A.S.K) so this is definatly gonna be interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Jones_and_the_Kingdom_of_the_Crystal_Skull

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_skull

KROW
09-11-2007, 08:57 AM
1957, eh? I like that. I kind of had the impression that it was going to be held in a later decade. And the title sounds real retro.

Warhorse
09-12-2007, 07:38 PM
So, how well do you think this movie will do at the box office when it comes out? You think it will be huge, or one of those reborn franchises that never took off in this day and age?

Roseangelo
09-12-2007, 07:45 PM
So, how well do you think this movie will do at the box office when it comes out? You think it will be huge, or one of those reborn franchises that never took off in this day and age?

Are you kidding? It's gonna be HUGE.

Warhorse
12-17-2007, 05:05 PM
Actually, I think you're right about that Rosangelo. I've seen reports from several sources stating that this flick will be the biggest box office hit of the year.

Has there been any trailers yet, or is Steven Spielberg really keeping tabs on this project as has been rumored?

Raph's Girl
02-14-2008, 12:46 PM
Trailer's up!!

It's on Indianajones.com and here:
http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/indianajones.html?showVideo=1

Man I can't wait to see this!!! Looks awesome!!! Mmm...Harrison Ford..*drools* :D

Peanut
02-14-2008, 01:53 PM
Wow...I got shivers.

F*cking. Epic. <3 Indy

Jester
02-14-2008, 05:26 PM
Indeed, who knew it would take Henry "Indiana" Jones to make Peanut and I agree on something. I know where I'll be on May 22.

Warhorse
02-14-2008, 06:28 PM
I know what I am going to do on the 22! Whole family is going too! This thing looks like it's going to be fun!

Lady R. Santi
02-14-2008, 06:43 PM
Saw the trailer this morning on GMA. I'm fairly excited as a long time Jones fan. Looked to be in the fine tradition of the series.

Warhorse
04-07-2008, 09:43 PM
Does anyone have any scoops yet on this movie? It's coming out in little over a month now, and I've heard nothing. No interviews, behind the scenes, anything.

The trailer is getting major doses of viewing on both IMDb and youtube, so I know the interest in this flick is pretty big and growing.

Roseangelo
04-07-2008, 09:53 PM
Does anyone have any scoops yet on this movie? It's coming out in little over a month now, and I've heard nothing. No interviews, behind the scenes, anything.

The trailer is getting major doses of viewing on both IMDb and youtube, so I know the interest in this flick is pretty big and growing.

Try theraider.net (http://www.theraider.net).

Drtooth
04-08-2008, 08:33 AM
They have Indiana Jones M&M's. Seriously. Indiana Jones M&M's. I can't wait to see the other merchandise.

Still holding out hope for Indiana Spud and "Indiana Jones Heroes" or whatever they'd call them.

The Shelf
04-08-2008, 08:57 AM
Does anyone have any scoops yet on this movie?

Nope, and I'm avoiding them at all costs because I want this to be good. Movies are always better when you keep your hype level down.

Toonami Tom
05-18-2008, 11:49 PM
I didn't see a topic, other than the Lego Indiana Jones topic, so I decided to creat one.

I'm hyped for the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull film.

There are rumors that there may be Indy 5, 6 and 7, but they will not focus on Indiana Jones, but instead his sidekick Mutt Williams. I'm not sure how great that would be..... Indy is the film afterall.

Machias Banshee
05-19-2008, 12:05 AM
I watched the second half of the Temple of Doom and then the Last Crusade on SciFi earlier tonight. As well as that special about the Crystal Skulls. That subject is kinda interesting - I hadn't heard of them before, but I'm sure they'll be brought up further as we get closer to 2012. The idea of the crystal not being possibly made by human hands sounds like a stretch, but a lot of Conspiracy theories are like that...

The way Harrison's looking, I don't know if he'd make it to 7 - maybe if he was trying to find the last clean bedpan inside the local resting home he's going to be at. Can you imagine the chase down the hall in the wheelchairs? And trying to choose which Jell-O is the one that Doesn't have the sleeping meds...? :P

Raph's Girl
05-19-2008, 01:14 AM
I watched the second half of the Temple of Doom and then the Last Crusade on SciFi earlier tonight. As well as that special about the Crystal Skulls. That subject is kinda interesting - I hadn't heard of them before.

I suggest ya watch the ep of Stargate SG1 that deals with a Crystal Skull and there was a short lived tv series called Veritas: The Quest that dealt with searching for em.

I can't wait to see this film. I've been fascinated by the Skulls for many years.

Warhorse
05-19-2008, 09:15 PM
There was one started.

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=20640

But I cant wait for this to come out, it's going to be fun!

Raph's Girl
05-20-2008, 12:27 AM
I was looking at the cast list for the film and got a bit of a shock. Looks like ole Ernie Reyes Jr (Keno in TMNT 2) is in this film as one of the warriors...Cemetary Warrior #2 to be exact.... :ohwell:

Warhorse
05-21-2008, 04:56 PM
I wonder if Ernie Reyes Jr is going to be playing Ke Hu Quang's part of Shorty.:ohwell:

Brodie
05-21-2008, 07:55 PM
Im gonna go to the midnight opening...

Brodie
05-22-2008, 02:26 AM
Double post and I don't care.

This post could be spoiler heavy, but probably not. I can get out my frustrations quite clearly without splurging details.



This movie was balls. I'm sorry, really, because I wanted it to be bad ****in' ass just like the rest of you. For 3 reasons,

1)It's Indiana Jones
B) Harrison Ford is actually playing Indy
3)Spielberg was helming

These three things should have been enough to seal this movies fate as cinematic gold. And, it will be gold, I can guarantee it, because of those reasons, but strictly monetarily speaking. And everyone involved must have just seen it for sheer dollars n' duckets value, because there was nothing holding this film together that made a lick of ****ing sense.


Don't get me wrong, this film wasn't complete trash, not at all. But I'm not embellishing, or exaggerating when I say that they could have cut together all the scenes with Indiana jumping around with his whip, and fighting, and nixed the story, and it would have been damn cool, and sold just as much. And, chances are, it'd make a ****-ton more sense.


The only logical explanation of the script is that it had to have been written by a 5th grader who had just seen the original trilogy, and wanted to write his own Indiana Jones movie, but cooler. So, essentially, it felt like Tim Burton was making it.

This is where it could get spoiler-ish...

Yes, I think that it had to have been written by a 5th grade boy who had just seen the old flicks. This writer wanted to make a new Indiana Jones movie, and make it cool. And what do all 5th grade boys think is cool? ALIENS! No ****.

The cool thing about the older Indy flicks is that they're somewhat grounded in reality... Somewhat. Sure, you have to suspend your level of logic, but for the most part its your (above)average adventure movie. This one just kind of **** on that in the last hour, and upped the ante in the last 20 minutes by bashing the alien thing into your skull. What kind of ruined it was the alien morphing, and then the giant ****ing flying saucer that ungrounded itself and flew away. What the hell?

This is really what sucks about the next movies, because there will be more, but the excitement or danger level won't matter because its like "Well, ****, I've seen aliens, and junk, so **** Nazis, seriously."

And what the hell is with Shia Lebauf becoming George of the ****ing Jungle and swinging from vines with the monkeys, pretty much out of nowhere?

I'm really curious as to why Aliens seemed to be the logical step. Maybe someone was like, "Hey, you know who Harrison Ford works well with? Aliens. Did you see Star Wars?" And if they were going to go the alien route, with Lucas' and Spielberg's connections, that alien should have ****ing been Optimus Prime or Chewbacca. The latter making the most sense, because Ford loves that goddamn wookie.

That being said, it still doesn't make sense why Lucas or Spielberg wanted to go that route considering every other goddamn movie they made had aliens in it...They must have really wanted their **** to be full circle... and make this movie like every 40's-50's serial adventure ever... "COWBOYS! TRAPS! ADVENTURE! DAMES! ALIENS!"

That being said...

Harrison Ford is still Indiana Jones.

Shia Lebauf is an alright addition as far as sidekicks are concerned.

Russians aren't nearly as troublesome/interesting as the Nazis.

Again, it's not entirely bad, for sure it's a good movie, just wrapped in a **** coating, with everyone's best intentions. Sure, I'll get the DVD, but after the first viewing, it'll only be seen by using the Scene Selection, and watching probably 45 minutes of the entire movie. Those 45 minutes consisting of when Indiana Jones is doing Indiana Jones related things.

GK Punk
05-22-2008, 02:40 AM
You just broke my heart. At least I know to go in to it with lower expectations than I had.

Ra
05-22-2008, 05:37 AM
Well, there goes a movie I was hoping to see in the holidays.

Seriously...aliens? What the hell were they thinking? I mean...why?!

Mecha Cow
05-22-2008, 09:24 AM
The only logical explanation of the script is that it had to have been written by a 5th grader who had just seen the original trilogy, and wanted to write his own Indiana Jones movie, but cooler. So, essentially, it felt like Tim Burton was making it.
Take a bow, sir.

Brodie
05-22-2008, 12:25 PM
Thanks....but the ...****ing monkey scene...argh

Jester
05-22-2008, 01:23 PM
:( Now I don't know if I want to go to the 4:15 matinee showing. Thank's Brodie...Kill-Joy! :P
j/k

Raph's Girl
05-22-2008, 07:20 PM
Just got back from seeing Indiana Jones 4. If ya like action and adventure mixed with Sci-fi and conspiracy theories then see it. Otherwise don't bother. It's a pretty good movie tho. Not the best of the films..maybe the 2nd best Indy film (nothing will ever top Temple of Doom in my book). It was an interesting take on the crystal skull mythos for sure.

So what did we learn in this movie:

1: Indy apperantly faught in WWII and holds the rank of Colonel and lots of medals.

2: Roswell aliens/Greys/Asgards have a crystaline skeletal structure that's apperantly magnetic...

3: Indy was somehow INVOLVED in the Roswell alien stuff...

4: Oh looky.. the Ark of the Covenent is at Area 51....along with everything else Indy has ever found....

5: Greys come from another demension where they have REALLY big space ships....oh they're Archeologists. Or they just were greedy and stole all that stuff.

6: When in times of trouble Indy III can hone in on his Tarzan ancestry....wonder if he got his bike back?

7: Due to Sean Connery not wanting to return to the role of Henry Indiana Jones Sr...they decided to kill off the character! WTF was up with Indy spending 5 min staring at that picture?? Ok we get it...your dad's dead...get on with the story!

8: There are several things that can survive a nuclear attack: Scorpions, Cockroaches, Indiana Jones and Prairie Dogs


Things that made you scratch your head:


1: WTF was up with those Prairie Dogs anyways??

2: WTF was up with those monkeys?? Mutt sure made pals with them super quick.

3. WTF was up with those ants??? REALLLY big ants....

4. Did they kill that snake??? I felt sorry for the snake...

5: What was the point of the aliens being magnetic anyways???


Incidentally....the Indiana Jones novels and comics have similar plots to this movie...altho not all the novels have been translated into english but most of em deal with Indy meeting people from Arthurian times or Greek Oracles. There's also:

Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis which deals with green horned aliens..

Indiana Jones And the Golden Fleece Which has Indy facing a dragon...and Gaia, spirit of the Earth...so yeah...gods

Anyways. The things I liked about this movie:

1: Hey! It's Indiana Jones!

2: They actually mentioned the real skulls.

3: Continuity from the previous films.

Jester
05-22-2008, 07:37 PM
Ok, just got back from seeing it and what else can I say that hasn't been said. I liked it because it was Indiana Jones, but the whole alien plot device kinda made me roll my eyes, like Peter "Dancing Queen" Parker in Spider-man 3.
3 other things that made me roll my eyes:
1. In case of nuclear attack, hop inside a Frigidaire....please.
2. Mutt swinging through the air with the greatest of ease....pisha.
3. "Big damn ants." I don't even have to say anything else about it, just "big damn ants."
All in all a good Indy movie, not my favorite, but still better than Temple of Doom.

Roseangelo
05-22-2008, 09:14 PM
Just got back from it. I think I'll echo the majority of people saying that it was good, but why freaking aliens? (And I say this loving alien stuff.)

There was a cute 7-year-old kid sitting next to me that kept whispering (quite loudly at times) to his grandma during the movie. But it really didn't bother me. After the movie his grandma asked him, "Did you like it?" and he said, "Yeah, but there were scary parts!" :lol:

Revan
05-22-2008, 10:23 PM
I love how these movies focus on religion. And although crystal skull is technically centered on one type of religion, I would have prefered a more traditional religion, like christianity or whatever the crap temple of doom was. That being said, I thought Indy IV worked well. I am a sucker for happy feel good parts. Like the references to previous films. yay!

I really liked the end
at the wedding when Indy's hat blows in the door and Henry III is about to put it on when Indy grabs it! Woohoo! Perhaps another film? Also I was excited that Indy and Marion finally tied the knot!

Jester
05-22-2008, 10:34 PM
I love how these movies focus on religion. And although crystal skull is technically centered on one type of religion, I would have prefered a more traditional religion, like christianity or whatever the crap temple of doom was. That being said, I thought Indy IV worked well. I am a sucker for happy feel good parts. Like the references to previous films. yay!

I really liked the end
at the wedding when Indy's hat blows in the door and Henry III is about to put it on when Indy grabs it! Woohoo! Perhaps another film? Also I was excited that Indy and Marion finally tied the knot!
When that happened, I thought "Oh no! Not a Mutt Williams Trilogy." Then Indy took it. *mops brow*

Revan
05-22-2008, 10:42 PM
When that happened, I thought "Oh no! Not a Mutt Williams Trilogy." Then Indy took it. *mops brow*
Oh gosh I know what you mean. I felt that "Oh no" feeling. It was just so BA when he swiped it back and put it on!

I would like to see another Indy film with Harrison. The action is just so much better these days than it was in the first 3. Perhaps a bit less realistic but more exciting IMO

Zog the Equalizer
05-22-2008, 11:57 PM
I just got back from the movie and other than the occasional jump forward in plot and the monkey scene, I really enjoyed it.yes even the Aliens part. Technically they weren't even aliens they were trans-dimensional beings

Jester
05-23-2008, 12:04 AM
That reminds me, what's with movies that have 13 beings that need to be reunited so a portal to another realm can be opened....*coff* TMNT *coff*

Brodie
05-23-2008, 12:38 AM
Someone just mentioned "another movie?!" and I thought it'd been stated before, but I thing Lebauf is signed on for 3 more and Ford for 2?

Voltron
05-23-2008, 12:38 AM
That. Was. Ridiculous. Way to jump the shark, George. At least make the alien Greedo, George.

Andrew NDB
05-23-2008, 02:04 AM
My mini reviews:

Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (came out in 1984, set in 1935):
Good fun, no problem with it whatsoever. I totally understand people finding it the weakest of the three Indy movies so far, but the outright dislike of it still baffles me. I think it's fun to see a little bit more of a brash, "Honor and glory" Indy before he came a little bit more down to Earth in Raiders and Last Crusade. Viewing the films in proper chronological order of Temple => Raiders => Last Crusade actually gave me a better appreciation of Temple of Doom, and I suspect it would have gotten better appreciation at large had it actually been released first, serving as a bit of a slow-burn to the larger, significantly more epic installments.


Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Arc (came out in 1981, set in 1936):
I watched Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Arc (heh) after watching Temple of Doom... yeah, what the guys smoking talking about Temple of Doom is darker? I get that most of the cinematography is dark and dank for most of the movie back in Temple of Doom... but Raiders is about 10 times as dark and macabre as ToD.

Temple of Doom, aside from the Monkey Brain platter, all we see that's particularly "Oh!"ing is just the dude getting his heart pulled out.

In Raiders... let's see... we've got a guy getting run through an airplane propeller, a couple guys' faces melting off (bloodily and visibly), bullets to the head, men crushed under vehicles... did we see the same movies?

But yes, I get it. The problem with Temple of Doom is that it ends up being about ten times less epic than either Raiders or Last Crusade.

Raiders gets a decent edge over Temple of Doom for me, though not because of Billie or Short Round or anything like that.

At any rate, easily the best, no-nonsense, most epic Indy movie there is that's as gritty an Indiana Jones movie as we'll likely ever get.


Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (came out in 1989, set in 1938 ):
Always fun, always a treat. Though I'd watched it with her before, I quizzed my girlfriend and she seemed to like this one best of all 3, citing the humor and family aspect of it... but that's her thing.

It is certainly the most "fun" of the first three Indiana Jones movies. It retains the epic, globe-trottingness of Raiders while still delivering more or less what is expected of an Indiana Jones movie by this point. Connery is great stunt-casting, but moreover has fantastic chemistry with Junior... can't go wrong here.

Many steps below the grit of Raiders and Temple, though Last Crusade still checks in to give us the withering/dusting scenes when a couple of folks "Choose poorly."


Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (came out in 2008, set in 1957):
Perfect. Well, near perfect, but exactly what I'd hoped and imagined with all the "It's been 20 years, it better be a ****ing masterpiece to end all masterpieces, a return of Indy that will make the Earth tremble and God cry!" set firmly aside.

Spielburg wasn't lying. The movie kind of makes no bones about it really, truly being one for the fans. The nuggets with, "Oh look, it's the Arc from the first movie," the nods to Indy's dad, the surprisingly large role for Marion, the happily ever after wedding at the end... it's a big gift-wrapped package for Indy fans, and you can tell Spielburg and company had a blast doing this.

My thoughts are a bit scattered on things, so bear with me...

* It's easily the least gritty of all four films, even considerably below Last Crusade. About as gritty as it gets is the "Giant Ants" (and for the record, when I read there'd be giant ants in the movie I was thinking... giant ants... like, doberman-size ants or larger still) devouring a couple of Russians... but we don't really see anything as the people are literally... covered in ants. Ah well, not a big deal.

* Delightful chemistry with Indy and Marion. Better than I expected, far better. It literally looks like they're not even acting at all, and maybe they're not.

* So pretty much everybody's expectations about Mutt being Indy's son turn out to be true. This was the kind of thing I was really holding out, going, "Damn it, you just KNOW everyone is expecting this kid to turn out to be Indy's son... I'm going to gamble that it's not, it's just some student that becomes entangled in things." But nope, it's his son, and what happened between Indy and Marion and the kid all pretty much play out exactly like anyone would expect (he left, she had a kid, she married someone else, blah blah). It's played well though, I had far less of a problem with it after seeing it.

* The aliens. Only... it doesn't really turn out that they're aliens at all, does it? "The space in between space," "interdimensional aliens"... what? This just smacks as Spielburg and Lucas trying to be a little bit different for the sake of different. Oh, for ****'s sake, just have the damned saucer fly off into space... no one is going to care that we've seen it in X-Files and Close Encounters. But I really liked the angle, I liked the way it way played up and still not gotten into at ridiculous levels. People complaining about the inclusion of aliens at all don't really understand Indiana Jones at all... the first three were sendups of the 1930s serials... and here we are in the 50s, and now we're up to the "saucermen from Mars!" serials.

* Henry Jones III and the Case of the Vine-Swinging Monkeys. Yeah. For a few moments there it felt like I was watching a parody movie or something... truly awful, and yet this is the only bad thing I can say about the movie at all. But it's really bad, and completely random.

* Shia made me nervous going in but calmed my worries fairly early on. He does OK here. Still, dude needs at least another 10 years under his belt before he's to serve as any kind of replacement Indy. Easy.



Liked Cate, like Ray, great casting all around. Good fun, and a pretty sensible addition to the Indiana Jones legacy.

I'd rate the movies:

1) Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Arc
2) Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
3) Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
4) Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom

But I really find it hard to rate them. Yes all four share the same kind of motif, and yes the four all share a similar vibe... but something about each of them makes each one so unique, so in and of itself. Like, with Temple of Doom, I truly love it, it's an awesome movie... and yet I feel compelled to mark it lower than the rest, not because it's any less of a movie or experience than the others, but rather because it's less of an epic, less of an overall "Big" story. It's not a failing, it's just incidental of the story.

But ah, hell, that's enough about this. I need to watch the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles sometime.

Raph's Girl
05-23-2008, 02:07 AM
That reminds me, what's with movies that have 13 beings that need to be reunited so a portal to another realm can be opened....*coff* TMNT *coff*

Uh... You apperantly don't know the legend. According to legend there's 13 Skulls and at least 8 have been discovered in the last 500 years. Indy even mentioned seeing 3 of the real ones. According to legend the 13 Skulls have to be found before December 2012 or we'll be doomed or some weird stuff.

One of the legends of the Skulls is that they were built by Atlantians. There's many stories surrounding them. But ALL of them say there's 13.

You need to check out this website. http://www.crystal-skull.com This is the website of the skull known as Synergy. The other known ones are E.T. ,The Mitchell-Hodgkins Skull (aka The Skull of Doom), British museum skull, Max the Texas Skull, Paris skull, Mayan Skull, and Amythyst Skull. Indy mentions the Mitchell-Hodgkins, British, and Paris skulls to Mutt.

Read about the history of Synergy. It's really fascinating all the cultures that have the skull in their legends...and that they all seem to mention the "People of the Sky"

Here's another site that has info on the Skulls:
http://skepdic.com/crystalskull.html

That Matt Guy
05-23-2008, 10:17 AM
had to come here and say i liked it. the ufo stuff fits in good with the 50's cold war era setting. anyone crying that its not grounded in reality or realistic either has no imagination or forgot everything ridiculous from the other movies. funny people saying this isnt good are the same people that enjoyed that transformers **** fest from last year.

dont reply because i wont read it

Raph's Girl
05-23-2008, 07:08 PM
Just a heads up folks. The Crystal Skull in this movie is apperantly not the first time Indy deals with one (or 2 or 3 or). I decided to look up the Indy novels as there are many I hadn't read yet. I noticed that Barnes & Nobel has had 4 in particular on sale for the last couple weeks.

Now I know why...these 4 novels involve Indiana Jones, Nazi's, followers of Mousilini, and a Crystal Skull (the Crystal Skull of Cozan to be exact)! They're set in the years 1933 - 1935.

In order they are:
Indiana Jones and the Philosopher's Stone
Indiana Jones and the Dinosaur Eggs
Indiana Jones and the Hollow Earth
Indiana Jones and the Secret of the Sphinx

You can find info on all the novels (note 8 of them are written by a German man and have never been translated into english. These are not considered canon by George Lucas...however the others are canon... No wonder Indy wasn't thrilled about learning about another Skull. :lol: )

http://indianajones.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Novels

tOkKa
05-23-2008, 08:05 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2093/2517571276_29a3c53f13.jpg

-->> ..Was lookin around for this..


hope you guys like it ..

Large size @ http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2093/2517571276_14e3554a03_o.jpg


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ZariusTwo
05-23-2008, 08:49 PM
dont reply because i wont read it

Spoken like a true coward.

I hated Transformers and found this movie not even close to the classic trilogy.

I liked a lot of it, it definatly has a place in the structure, it's not offensively bad, but some of it dipped into obvious self-parody and handshakes that just annoyed me immensly. The actors all did their best with the material, and it's the only time you have a heart for the classic style whenever they eat up the scenery. With the effects of the classic trilogy, something with effort, the story would have a better grounding, and not be excedingly schizophrensic moving from "Lively Action/Adventure Serial" to "Rocky and Bullwinkle"

I dont want to be reminded of great success, I want to see the heart to aspire for success on it's own merits, I want a story where technology and characters deepen and explore things we havent considered. Just because structurally, it's been years since the last one, doesnt mean you have to SAY it to the audience.

Speilberg and Lucas were always advocates of the kind of complaicent special effects we have now. To them, they wont stop until they can film a whole movie on their desktop with nude actors being rendered with clothes. No franchise is safe from their perfectionist aspirations. The only problem is, they wont turn their heads and say "oh this effect is a little mild isnt it?", theyll say "This effect is much less milder than it was two minutes ago, that's progress, keep it in the movie, we'll get less milder next time"

And the ending was so "Buzz Lightyear" you have to take a pregnancy test to check whenever or not you're giving birth to homosexual tendencies in large doses.

Jester
05-23-2008, 09:02 PM
And the ending was so "Buzz Lightyear" you have to take a pregnancy test to check whenever or not you're giving birth to homosexual tendencies in large doses.

Wait....what the heck does that even mean?

Voltron
05-23-2008, 09:21 PM
I'm with Jester. . .I'm completely lost by that one, Zarius.

Ra
05-23-2008, 09:24 PM
Buzz Lightyear impregnates everyone in the audience once the credits start rolling? :ohwell:

Voltron
05-23-2008, 10:47 PM
To the genitalia, AND BEYOND!

Mr. Snackpants
05-24-2008, 11:27 AM
How packed were your theaters? We got there 10-15 minutes early and there were only very front row seats left. I've never had a problem like this before. Apparently all the shows were selling out early in advance...even some for tonight.

Some thoughts:
I'm a big Indy fan and I wanted this to be so badass, but I kept my expectations low and I ended up leaving satisfied.
I liked Shia, he was good.
....but the monkey scene was indeed pretty stupid
I like the Alien idea but I felt it just went way, way too far, I know it's an Indy movie, but like someone said before the other movies were much more believable. It shouldn't of went as far as the Alien coming to life(?) and flying away in a giant spaceship.

cowabunga14
05-24-2008, 02:15 PM
Saw this last night and I thought it was -- for the most part -- enjoyable. I don't think the sci-fi element -- if it's alright to call it that -- took too much away from the movie. My only problems with the movie were the action was sometimes too far-fectched and the story was slighty weak. 7/10 for me.

Warhorse
05-24-2008, 11:42 PM
Just got back from seeing it. I loved it, and thought Cate Blanchet was brilliant as the villain. Every role I see her in, the more I like her as an actress. She's slowly becoming my favorite actress now.

This is my second favorite Indy movie behind Temple of Doom. It was a wonderful rollercoaster, and I love it how this adventure series for the family could just keep going and going like the energizer bunny.

I always been a fan and a believer in extraterrestials, and thought it was about time Indy had something to do with the phenomenom, so I wasn't dissappointed or crying about that. And I loved all of the funny scenes in this movie. The only thing I was expecting, when they were showing the Amazon river on the map, I was suspecting that the movie would feature a giant anaconda, although the regular rat snake was just as fun.

So, here, I give this movie an enthusiastic two thumbs up, and I am also a fan of the Transformers movie that came out. And Indy IV was the best movie I have seen in the theater in a long time. Last movie I gave thumbs up that I liked was 3:10 to Yuma. Everything else just sucked or I'll wait for the dvd.

Raph's Girl
05-25-2008, 12:11 PM
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=54790&type=0

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull unearthed an estimated $126 million since its opening at 12:01 a.m. May 22, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

That includes an estimated $101 million from Friday to Sunday, which followed a first-day Thursday gross of $25 million. Paramount also projected a $25 million haul for Monday, which would give the first Indy sequel in 19 years a five-day total of $151 million.

That would compare with $151.1 million tally posted by last year's Spider-Man 3, a best-ever weekend opening.

Star Wars: Episode III--Revenge of the Sith recorded the highest-grossing first five days of any picture before or since: $172.8 million after debuting on a Thursday before a non-holiday weekend in May 2005.

Meanwhile, Disney was projecting a Friday-Sunday gross of $23 million for The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian. That represented a 58 percent drop from the opening weekend to finish in second place through Monday for a 10-day total of $91.1 million.

Iron Man placed third for the weekend with an estimated three-day haul of $20.1 million and an estimated $25.6 million through Monday. The holiday-bolstered gross is expected to raise the hit movie's total to $257.8 million, making it by far 2008's best-grossing movie to date.

Revan
05-25-2008, 09:43 PM
I was just thinking. They did a really good job keeping the alien plot quiet. In all the trailers I saw, not for a second did I guess they would be chasing down an alien skull. Nor did I predict the damn ship would take off at the end. :lol: Kudos to the marketing team

Toonami Tom
05-25-2008, 09:51 PM
I feel the same way. Before seeing the movie, I pretty much had no idea there would be aliens involved.:lol:

odupianist
05-27-2008, 08:06 AM
Saw it last night. I don't mind the alien factor BUT they went too far with it. As you said Neutrino, I didn't expect an alien crystal skull. I was kind of disappointed with them taking the crystall skull thing and making it an alien skull not a human skull or whatever you want to take it as.

Shia did alright. I hated him in Transformers. He was good in Constantine. The monkey thing was crap though. Other than the aliens and the monkeys, it was pretty believeable. My buddy says it's not a true Indy film bc the other films deal with religion moreso than this one did.

As for the fridge thing, I don't see that part as too ridiculous. Jester, did you know, one of the first ideas for Back to the Future, had a fridge on a nuclear site as the time machine. Then Zemeckis decided he didn't need kids climbing in fridges lol.

Jester
05-27-2008, 01:25 PM
Really now. I'm glad they went with the Delorian. That car rocks.

Tinuvielsdreams
05-27-2008, 01:49 PM
I had tried really hard not to hear anything about this movie before I saw it but I couldn't avoid some of the negative reviews it had been getting. I went in very open and hopefully and honestly I enjoyed it minus a few things...

Just on the note of Indy it's amazing the older he gets the more awesome and unbeatable he gets
The way he sneaked up on that graveyard guy and blew the poison dark back into the guy's mouth, Indy is like stealth and ninja like

The fridge things was hilarious and completely unreasonable at the same time. I did like that the tag was clearly shown reading lead lined as he climbed into it.

The Mutt character that Shia played actually wasn't too bad
Except for the vine swing which was a huge WTF and the fight where is straddled between the two jeeps taking crotch shots I could have done without those...it got a little silly. Love the American Graffiti feel at the beginning and the greaser jock fight in the soda parlor

The Dialogue between Indy and Marion was great, I think they did a good job handling their relationship and the mood between them.

and then the end well....
I am just surprised ET didn't make a cameo :P I think using Aliens was okay and eventually yeah I bet Indy would encounter them but the Aliens face right before he basically exploded Cate Blanchette was hilarious and all my friends kept yelling Alien Stinkface the rest of the night. Wait I'm sorry Inter-dimensional traveler Stink face...

Spitfire
05-27-2008, 02:00 PM
Wasn't very impressed with it. It entertained me but I forgot most of it pretty quickly. It lacked that epic feel I got from the other films and Indy figuring out the mysteries so fast made the movie less interesting to me. I also thought most of the action sequences were pretty bland.

All that jazz aside I was entertained so it succeeded on that and I was glad i had seen it.

Roseangelo
05-27-2008, 06:39 PM
What I forgot to say about this film is that it convinced me that Harrison Ford can still act. Whenever I see him on talk shows he always appears to be half stoned or not completely right in the head. So I was worried that he wouldn't be Indy in this film. But at no point during the movie did it cross my mind that Harrison had lost his touch.

JetsAndHeels
05-27-2008, 06:42 PM
Whenever I see him on talk shows he always appears to be half stoned or not completely right in the head.

You got that right. I saw him on Leno a couple of weeks ago and it seemed like he could not carry on a regular conversation. I was really wondering what the hell was wrong with him.

Arcade Joe
05-27-2008, 06:44 PM
I don't really have any desire to see this movie....Aliens? c'mon

JetsAndHeels
05-27-2008, 06:45 PM
I don't really have any desire to see this movie....Aliens? c'mon

They prefer the term Intergalactic Travelers. :)

Raph's Girl
05-27-2008, 06:53 PM
I don't really have any desire to see this movie....Aliens? c'mon

They're not really aliens....they're interdemensional beings....creatures from another demension who apperantly need a ship the size of New Jersey...

Roseangelo
05-27-2008, 07:09 PM
Oh come on - Aliens = not of this Earth, and they're not. They're aliens, plain and simple.

Jester
05-27-2008, 07:31 PM
But, Rose. This is the Technodrome, land of the split hair. :P

MrPliggins
05-27-2008, 08:05 PM
I kind of suspected aliens after seeing the trailer because they showed them opening the crate that said "Roswell, NM" on it...so I wasn't really surprised by that. (also, they open that crate at the beginning of the movie, too...so you kind of know it's aliens right from the get-go...kind of a spoilerage there..) Aliens weren't really fitting, but didn't bother me. I thought the movie itself was pretty awesome...but I haven't seen the originals in so long I barely remember them. I need to track them down.

I think the ending and killing of the bad guy character (Blanchett) could've been done better because I was confused on whether she died or just teleported to their ship.

Revan
05-27-2008, 10:25 PM
I kind of suspected aliens after seeing the trailer because they showed them opening the crate that said "Roswell, NM" on it...so I wasn't really surprised by that. (also, they open that crate at the beginning of the movie, too...so you kind of know it's aliens right from the get-go...kind of a spoilerage there..) Aliens weren't really fitting, but didn't bother me. I thought the movie itself was pretty awesome...but I haven't seen the originals in so long I barely remember them. I need to track them down.

I think the ending and killing of the bad guy character (Blanchett) could've been done better because I was confused on whether she died or just teleported to their ship.
Yeah, apparently the punishment for returning the skull (which is what the aliens wanted, I thought) is getting blown the **** up:ohwell:

Zog the Equalizer
05-27-2008, 10:53 PM
They prefer the term Intergalactic Travelers. :)
Interdimensional travelers actually :)

poiuytre
05-28-2008, 08:01 AM
I enjoyed it but it was pretty bland compared to the rest of the series. Shia LaBeouf was really miscast for the character tho. He always seems to play himself rather than acting a part and it simply didn't work for me in this movie. Speaking of the guy... the vine swinging scene really made me cringe. :dead:

discordiatookie
05-29-2008, 02:40 PM
I really really enjoyed it. The whole film. Right up until the monkey swing part. WTF was that all about? Bloody George of the Jungle, right through the place. Then all of a sudden, he's Kinga the bloody monkeys, with them all attacking the Russians? Yeah, right. And the 'interdimensional traveler' at the end was a bit've a let down. I dig the whole alien side of it, but just seeing the alien at the end in all its crappy cgi sucked. For me at least....

But they's my only gripes. Loved the rest of it! And if i'm ever in a nuclear war, i'm grabbing me a fridge!!


Oh yeah, what's with all them gophers at the start?

Raph's Girl
05-29-2008, 08:52 PM
Oh yeah, what's with all them gophers at the start?

To be honest I thought they were Prairie Dogs but I guess they were Gophers. As this amusing comic makes fun of:

http://www.theaterhopper.com/h_mag/Image/From_the_crayons_of_G__Lucas_by_jollyjack.jpg

discordiatookie
05-31-2008, 02:02 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

When I was writing that post, it went through my mind: "What the hell are they? Wassit beavers? Nope. Badgers? Nope. Gophers? Hmmm, sounds 'bout right." :P So they coulda been prairie dogs, but if that funny says theys gophers, I aint arguing!!


A friend asked today if its a good film, to which I replied: "Its a good film. With a coupla sucky scenes. But in whole, its good..."

Mr. Snackpants
05-31-2008, 02:14 PM
I don't see the big deal with the gophers. They popped up at the beginning and then after the nuke blast. What's the big deal??? They were just there. Didn't do anything to the plot, ect. It's not like Indy started tunneling in the ground with them and then beating up Soviets with them. Who the f*ck cares???

Raph's Girl
05-31-2008, 03:19 PM
I don't see the big deal with the gophers. They popped up at the beginning and then after the nuke blast. What's the big deal??? They were just there. Didn't do anything to the plot, ect. It's not like Indy started tunneling in the ground with them and then beating up Soviets with them. Who the f*ck cares???

They popped up, watched Indy as he went down the train track thing, and yes showed up after the Nuke blast.

The point is tho...they were there and there was no reason for em. Yes the monkeys had a reason (to beat up the Russians) but there was no need for CGI Gophers/Prairie Dogs.

We care because well cute animals weren't needed for this film!! Gophers and Monkeys...WTF? Those man eating ants...they were usefull a bit....but the Gophers didn't do a darn thing...they shouldn't have even been in the movie. :/

Mr. Snackpants
05-31-2008, 11:21 PM
The point is tho...they were there and there was no reason for em. Yes the monkeys had a reason (to beat up the Russians) but there was no need for CGI Gophers/Prairie Dogs.

The scene took place in a desert....where some species of gophers live. So what if it was CGI. They were used for what, a grand total of 20 seconds?

Why gripe about that and draw a stupid comic about it.

Jester
06-01-2008, 09:31 AM
When I lived in Mtn. Home, ID we called those little critters Whistle Pigs, because they made this whistling noise....*shrugs*

JetsAndHeels
06-02-2008, 02:50 PM
When I lived in Mtn. Home, ID we called those little critters Whistle Pigs, because they made this whistling noise....*shrugs*

And I used to bullseye womprats in my T-16 back home. :)

Revan
06-02-2008, 06:05 PM
That's impossible, even for a computer

ThirdMarioBro
06-09-2008, 01:50 AM
You know, I decided to ignore this thread for two reasons: haters and spoilers. I just took the whole family to see it (again), and so I decided to just say this.

It's the best of the series, and now also one of my favorite movies ever. Everything from the INSANE beginning (random nuclear bombs FTW) to the John Williams credits fanfare--it all made me smile and go back to a simpler time without tarnishing the memory. It just reminded me why I love Indy so much.

You got that right. I saw him on Leno a couple of weeks ago and it seemed like he could not carry on a regular conversation. I was really wondering what the hell was wrong with him.

Since nobody answered...

Harrison Ford seems to have a problem with public appearances. He's perfectly fine on camera as a professional, but when you put him in front of a live audience, he chokes up. It's like a phobia or something. He's always been like that. Frankly, the talk show tour for Indy 4, he was probably at the best I've ever seen him on a talk show, but of course, he's never done that many anyway for said reasons. It's weird, but nothing new.

Spitfire
06-09-2008, 03:07 AM
They popped up, watched Indy as he went down the train track thing, and yes showed up after the Nuke blast.

The point is tho...they were there and there was no reason for em. Yes the monkeys had a reason (to beat up the Russians) but there was no need for CGI Gophers/Prairie Dogs.

We care because well cute animals weren't needed for this film!! Gophers and Monkeys...WTF? Those man eating ants...they were usefull a bit....but the Gophers didn't do a darn thing...they shouldn't have even been in the movie. :/

There's way better targets for this movie to complain about besides gophers. The fact the entire film falls apart by the end of act 2 for one. The bad CGI insect/animal swarm scene we've seen a million times, the horribly choreographed fight sequences, and the predictable as all hell plot. Which it's their own fault it's so predictable because they gave us every hint in the first 15 minutes of the movie almost.

Like I said I was entertained but there were somethings I had serious issues with. The first few scenes really stuck in my head though they were great. I was even enjoying the movie when Disney boy jumped aboard which is rare because I can't stand him. After they exit the tomb they get the skull from is when the movie fell apart for me. The entire jungle fight scene and onward.

Brodie
06-09-2008, 06:50 AM
It's the best of the series, and now also one of my favorite movies ever.



Well, considering how much lame **** you enjoy, I don't think any of us are taken aback.

odupianist
06-09-2008, 07:59 AM
I have to agree with Spit. First half of the movie was really good. I felt like I was watching an actual Indy movie. The second half or maybe last third just completely messed up my opinion of the movie.

The Stryker
06-13-2008, 12:50 AM
I thought it was good, 3rd best of the series.

Nothing and I mean NOTHING will be as bad as Temple of Doom.