View Full Version : Tales of the TMNT #40
Roseangelo
06-30-2007, 11:15 AM
From Murphy's Blog (http://the-5th-turtle.blogspot.com/2007/06/tales-of-tmnt-40.html):
This is one of three issues of Tales that I’m currently juggling (38, 40, 41), my last three of those shipping in 2007.
This one is a collaboration with Diego Jourdan, and features a middle-aged Raphael in Christmas Eve Tokyo. Lately it’s either only the very young (pre-teen) or the very old turtles that interest me in terms of storytelling. Not sure why, maybe because of my accelerating age (Dorian Gray-like, it seems of late), or the fact that I’ve finally had a child in middle-age, or both.
Anyway, this is only my second attempt to tell a comic book story without dialogue, the first being twenty or so years ago in The Puma Blues #5 (c. 1987).
This Raph story’s called (excuse the pun), “Silent Knight.”
http://bp0.blogger.com/_gb-JVVPbQkU/RoZHab8rdxI/AAAAAAAAAIU/h2PSeKch3d4/s320/T40cover.jpg
Ok, this looks to be WAY awesome! And look! Raph has the eye patch!
Raph's Girl
06-30-2007, 11:34 AM
From Murphy's Blog (http://the-5th-turtle.blogspot.com/2007/06/tales-of-tmnt-40.html):
http://bp0.blogger.com/_gb-JVVPbQkU/RoZHab8rdxI/AAAAAAAAAIU/h2PSeKch3d4/s320/T40cover.jpg
Ok, this looks to be WAY awesome! And look! Raph has the eye patch!
Middle aged??? As in middle aged in human terms or middle aged in reptile terms (IE 100+)??
Either way this will be the 2nd time in a Mirage book that Raph has the eye patch. Why is it he only has one in christmas related ones??? :lol:
Looks like he has a little Asian girl in his arms. Love the bomber jacket he's wearing.
VaughnMichael
06-30-2007, 12:15 PM
man that pic looks awsome! looks like those could be foot soldiers!
The Shelf
06-30-2007, 12:45 PM
Wow, this is gonna be really, really cool. Plus, silent comics = teh awesomeness. I can't wait to "read" this. But how the heck does Raph lose that dang eye?! I wanna read that story. :( :D
Scandia
06-30-2007, 01:05 PM
Wearing an eyepatch does not automatically mean that he lost an eye. It could be a temporary eye injury. Or for protection after a surgery. Conversely, he could get an artificial eye if he had lost his original eye.
Roseangelo
06-30-2007, 01:09 PM
Wearing an eyepatch does not automatically mean that he lost an eye. It could be a temporary eye injury. Or for protection after a surgery. Conversely, he could get an artificial eye if he had lost his original eye.
While all of that is true, it's pretty much accepted fact that Raph loses his eye at some point.
Scandia
06-30-2007, 01:14 PM
Where is this shown exactly?
VaughnMichael
06-30-2007, 01:21 PM
Where is this shown exactly?
I don't believe it was shown in mirage which is odd they really do need to do more future old turtle storys.
And it was shown in the archie future tmnt world.
Raphael is always shown wearing a black eye patch in every future image of him.
diegojourdan
06-30-2007, 01:45 PM
Howdy!
That's the 'Tales' comic i currently find myself illustrating!
It also happens to be a very significant story for me on a personal level: this particular future Raph version was featured in the pages of Archie's TMNT Adventures #42...the very first TMNT comic i bought (wish i still had it :( )
Funny thing is, i was was scheduled for minor surgery the very next day so i ended reading it in the HOSPITAL bed (bout 100 times for sure) :D
http://www.ninjaturtles.com/comics/archie/42/42.htm
http://www.ninjaturtles.com/comics/archie/42/3.jpg
As for the bomber jacket, that's actually my jacket (no BS) ! It's COTTON, as the environmentally aware me won't wear leather products.
http://bennieswestern.com/shop/images/manufacturers/FRJ134BLG.jpg
Which reminds me, were old Archie TMNT comics printed on recycled paper and using environmentally friendly inks?
Talk about history (and i wasn't allowed to post the cover illo in my blog ...:ohwell: )!
Diego.
VaughnMichael
06-30-2007, 01:49 PM
Howdy!
That's the 'Tales' comic i currently find myself illustrating!
It also happens to be a very significant story for me on a personal level: this particular future Raph version was featured in the pages of Archie's TMNT Adventures #42...the very first TMNT comic i bought (wish i still had it :( )
Funny thing is, i was was scheduled for minor surgery the very next day so i ended reading it in the HOSPITAL bed (bout 100 times for sure) :D
http://www.ninjaturtles.com/comics/archie/42/42.htm
http://www.ninjaturtles.com/comics/archie/42/3.jpg
As for the bomber jacket, that's actually my jacket (no BS) ! It's COTTON, as the environmentally aware me won't wear leather products.
http://bennieswestern.com/shop/images/manufacturers/FRJ134BLG.jpg
Which reminds me, were old Archie TMNT comics printed on recycled paper and using environmentally friendly inks?
Talk about history (and i wasn't allowed to post the cover illo in my blog ...:ohwell: )!
Diego.
So wait does the story take place in archie comics tmnt world or mirage?
And its beautiful great job on the art!
And thats cool I used to have that jacket as well when I was a teen hehe.
And about archies printing yes you are correct.
I'm sure it wa sonly posted in his blog because he's the big cheese!
And I'm quite sure some one could hook you up with that issue perhaps for some art or something ;)
Roseangelo
06-30-2007, 01:55 PM
Thanks for dropping in, Diego! This issue looks to be fantastic!!
Archie #42 is one of my all-time favorite TMNT comics, period. And it totally brought me back into the Archie game after straying for about 15 issues. Inspiration taken from those stories is nothing but a good thing!!
Raph's Girl
06-30-2007, 02:03 PM
Wow, this is gonna be really, really cool. Plus, silent comics = teh awesomeness. I can't wait to "read" this. But how the heck does Raph lose that dang eye?! I wanna read that story. :( :D
Generally he looses it in explosions. That's what happened in Archie and Image.
Diego:
So this is set in the Archie Future Turtles timeline?! SW33T!!
diegojourdan
06-30-2007, 02:04 PM
So wait does the story take place in archie comics tmnt world or mirage?
****, where they ever separate?:lol:
And its beautiful great job on the art!
Thanks!
And thats cool I used to have that jacket as well when I was a teen hehe.
HA! I actually wear it nowadays 8)
And about archies printing yes you are correct.
Sweetness!
I'm sure it wa sonly posted in his blog because he's the big cheese!
Not at all, Steve rocks! I think it's a Mirage thing...
And I'm quite sure some one could hook you up with that issue perhaps for some art or something
Oh, i'm sure if Tokka reads this, he'll get the idea :D
diegojourdan
06-30-2007, 02:06 PM
Generally he looses it in explosions. That's what happened in Archie and Image.
Well, Raph does have a temper, and using those frikkin' sais of his to eat his cereal every morning instead of a regular spoon sure didn't help :lol:
VaughnMichael
06-30-2007, 02:18 PM
****, where they ever separate?:lol:
Yeah It's been said by Murphy that Peter Dislikes the Archie comics...I don't see how he could though since he as well had a hand in creating allot of the characters as well as cover art.
Not at all, Steve rocks! I think it's a Mirage thing...
I know he does and it usually is a mirage thing those basterds! haha j/k
Oh, i'm sure if Tokka reads this, he'll get the idea :D
I was thinking more along the lnes of myself Tokka tells me watcha do haha
Galactus
06-30-2007, 07:12 PM
I'm suprised no one has mentioned that Raph with an eye patch really did start with Mirage in the back up story for Michaelangelo Christmas Special. It's a homage to "A Christmas Carol" and the ghost of Christmas future takes Raph to see his older self that's alone living in a swamp, his mind has degenerated so much he can't even talk.
VaughnMichael
06-30-2007, 08:20 PM
I'm suprised no one has mentioned that Raph with an eye patch really did start with Mirage in the back up story for Michaelangelo Christmas Special. It's a homage to "A Christmas Carol" and the ghost of Christmas future takes Raph to see his older self that's alone living in a swamp, his mind has degenerated so much he can't even talk.
some one did.
Middle aged??? As in middle aged in human terms or middle aged in reptile terms (IE 100+)??
Either way this will be the 2nd time in a Mirage book that Raph has the eye patch. Why is it he only has one in christmas related ones??? :lol:
Looks like he has a little Asian girl in his arms. Love the bomber jacket he's wearing.
Andrew NDB
06-30-2007, 09:55 PM
Talbot also did a beautiful painting of Future Mirage Raph where, like in the Mike special, he has the eyepatch and lives on the bayou.
Even Peter Laird himself did a sketch. Think it's in his Blast from the Past archive.
This issue should be fascinating. I've always wondered if we might get some breadcrumbs that might hint what leads Raph to this path.
The Shelf
07-01-2007, 11:21 AM
Just something I thought might be worth noting.... In that backup story from the Mike Micro, Raph sees himself in the future if he continued down the path he was going. I think the point of that whole backup story, though, was to help keep Raph from going down that path to begin with. So while this new story leads us to believe that Raph still has his eye damaged or lost, it is not necessary that Raph goes all primitive and lives in the swamp like that backup story showed. I know this is rather off topic, and I don't know if anyone was really even suggesting that he would still live in the swamp someday, but I thought this was worth noting just as FYI.
Scandia
07-01-2007, 11:34 AM
I don't think it is necessarily off topic.
And it would ROCK if NinjaTurtles.com would upload the Raphael story from the Michelangelo reprint. That's a rather hard comic to find. Gotta check where the story fits in the canon.
Roseangelo
07-01-2007, 11:41 AM
And it would ROCK if NinjaTurtles.com would upload the Raphael story from the Michelangelo reprint. That's a rather hard comic to find.
Nah, it's really not hard to find. I found 9 on eBay doing a quick search and NinjaTurtles.com still sells it, too.
Andrew NDB
07-01-2007, 03:48 PM
Just something I thought might be worth noting.... In that backup story from the Mike Micro, Raph sees himself in the future if he continued down the path he was going. I think the point of that whole backup story, though, was to help keep Raph from going down that path to begin with. So while this new story leads us to believe that Raph still has his eye damaged or lost, it is not necessary that Raph goes all primitive and lives in the swamp like that backup story showed. I know this is rather off topic, and I don't know if anyone was really even suggesting that he would still live in the swamp someday, but I thought this was worth noting just as FYI.
Did he really change that much after the events of that story in particular, though?
VaughnMichael
07-01-2007, 03:56 PM
Did he really change that much after the events of that story in particular, though?
He may have whos to say we've even seen raph at that point in his life yet with how Mirage is anymore with jumping all over their life time.
Andrew NDB
07-02-2007, 12:03 AM
He may have whos to say we've even seen raph at that point in his life yet with how Mirage is anymore with jumping all over their life time.
By no means am I saying it's set in stone... but unless we're willing to say that the whole bit was just in his head, it reasons to say that's how he'd end up if he doesn't set himself to rights.
Does he do so? Possibly.
The Shelf
07-02-2007, 08:17 AM
Did he really change that much after the events of that story in particular, though?
Well, that's the point. We don't know. I think it's safe to assume that he did because he didn't want to become that once he had seen it. But we don't know how much he changed, if at all. All I'm saying is that since he has seen the future, he may try not to let that aspect of it happen. From the looks of it, the only aspect of that future that seems set in stone is that he loses an eye or has it damaged.
EDIT: Erm, yeah, I just realized you pretty much said the same thing in your last post....
a_big_apple
07-02-2007, 12:08 PM
I don't think it is necessarily off topic.
And it would ROCK if NinjaTurtles.com would upload the Raphael story from the Michelangelo reprint. That's a rather hard comic to find. Gotta check where the story fits in the canon.
I have it! One of those things that I randomly picked up when it came out, even though I wasn't following Mirage at the time, just the Archie series...I'm glad I did! If I can manage to get access to a scanner at work I'll scan the little extra Raph story...is it allowed to post it here? If not, I guess I could email it to those who want to read it. It's pretty cool, I always liked it.
Roseangelo
07-06-2007, 02:33 PM
Murphy has posted a preview of page 1 (http://the-5th-turtle.blogspot.com/2007/07/tales-40-page-1.html):
http://bp1.blogger.com/_gb-JVVPbQkU/Ro6htr8reFI/AAAAAAAAAK0/OW0fhtUJzSM/s320/tmnt01web.jpg
The Shelf
07-07-2007, 10:37 AM
Looks mighty fine to me. :D
I really wish they'd use those solid grey tones more often. I prefer those or the crosshatching over the "dot" tones. That's just me, though.
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
07-10-2007, 03:06 PM
I think this "Silent Knight" will be a two-parter. After all, it's a Christmas Eve issue, Murphy is working on both 40 and 41, and it's set to come out in November.
diegojourdan
07-11-2007, 10:41 PM
As far as i know it's a one-shot story only...but i'd love to illustrate as many Tales issues as possible :D
http://viajerojourdan.blogspot.com/2007/07/cowabunga.html
VaughnMichael
07-11-2007, 10:44 PM
As far as i know it's a one-shot story only...but i'd love to illustrate as many Tales issues as possible :D
http://viajerojourdan.blogspot.com/2007/07/cowabunga.html
Ugh! That art is beautiful! More More!
Roseangelo
07-12-2007, 12:35 AM
As far as i know it's a one-shot story only...but i'd love to illustrate as many Tales issues as possible :D
http://viajerojourdan.blogspot.com/2007/07/cowabunga.html
SWEET!
Can someone translate the article? I see it mentions Comic-Con at the end... you aren't by chance going to be there, Diego?
Janus Prospero
07-23-2007, 10:17 PM
I'm suprised I'm beating Roseangelo and Putrescent to this, but Murph has posted an interior page from tales #40 on his blog (http://the-5th-turtle.blogspot.com/2007/07/tales-40-interior-page.html). And it look fantastic!
http://bp0.blogger.com/_gb-JVVPbQkU/RqSsxl6gbZI/AAAAAAAAASg/LRN2bPs1Zj0/s320/tmnt14-15.jpg (http://bp0.blogger.com/_gb-JVVPbQkU/RqSsxl6gbZI/AAAAAAAAASg/LRN2bPs1Zj0/s1600-h/tmnt14-15.jpg)
Of course, this is when one of them tells me that they already posted about this in the top secret thread.
VaughnMichael
07-23-2007, 10:22 PM
I just saw it a second ago ;) & it's beautiful.
Roseangelo
07-23-2007, 10:26 PM
While I haven't posted about it, I did see it earlier today. :tcool: :tthumbsu:
The Big Bad
07-24-2007, 05:10 AM
Inperfect translation to the article in Jourdan's blog. Personal comments are in brackets:
Rafael Valles, writing for La Tercera: These days, the Ninja Turtles’ adventures are born in Santiago, at the drawing table and computer of Diego Jourdan (29), Uruguayan artist living here [Chile] since 1991, and who today is part of the team of illustrators for the comic books starring the turtles, who this year have gone through a revival of sorts with the release of a CGI film which returned them to the big screen.
Jourdan works from his home for the North American Mirage Studios, owners of the turtle franchise. That is how he draws covers and stories for the Tales of the TMNT comic book, as well as the official film adaptation.
“I try to make them [the turtles, or comic books—the article isn’t clear] more expressive; at the narrative level I like to exaggerate the foreshortening [I’m not sure if that’s the right word—it’s the right translation for the word “escorzo”, but it doesn’t seem to make sense, within the context] and to place them in more dramatic situations,” says the artist, a professional graphic designer who studied digital diagramming in the United States. “Technically, ’m transitioning towards digital drawing, inking, and coloring, although sometimes I still use carbon pencil, for nostalgia if nothing else,” adds the illustrator, whose local works include newspapers and comic books like Sicario [I’m not sure about this one—it could be Scario].
But his days are not limited to drawing Leonardo, Michelangelo, Donatello and Raphael, the reptiles-turned-urban heroes and martial arts experts due to radioactive mutation. “Occasionally, Mirage allows my to plot the stories. It seems to have gained me good standing as a creator among the more hard-core fans of the series,” explains Diego Jourdan, one of several local talents who are currently working on comic books for the North American market (see sidebar) and one who gains greater experience for it.
The Uruguayan’s previous U.S. work includes characters such as Felix the Cat and Image series Fused; his work for Mirage Studios also includes designs for Ninja Turtles action figures and other merchandising. Currently, he also draws children’s comic strips for the North American editorial Blue Dream Studios, which will release the volume called Pet Robots during the San Diego Comic-Con this August.
Raph's Girl
07-24-2007, 06:07 AM
Hmm.. One has to wonder who that wee one is that Raph's protecting from those er futuristic looking foot soldiers. Hmm... if this is supposed to be Future Raph from Archie...then perhaps that's April's great granddaughter?
Roseangelo
07-24-2007, 08:29 AM
Hmm.. One has to wonder who that wee one is that Raph's protecting from those er futuristic looking foot soldiers. Hmm... if this is supposed to be Future Raph from Archie...then perhaps that's April's great granddaughter?
No, I believe it's just an abandoned child that he finds. He's in Tokyo and the kid is Japanese.
odupianist
07-24-2007, 08:51 AM
That looks pretty freakin' sweet.
diegojourdan
07-24-2007, 09:22 AM
No, I believe it's just an abandoned child that he finds. He's in Tokyo and the kid is Japanese.
You got that right Rose! Can't spoil any of the plot details though :)
Inperfect translation to the article in Jourdan's blog. Personal comments are in brackets:
Thanks Big Bad --i'm too lazy to translate such stuff myself :sleep:
And yup, "escorzo" means foreshortening, and the reporter got the toys and merchandising thing wrong, though according to Murph I AM 'on deck' for upcoming licensing illustrations and style-guide work.
As for PET ROBOTS: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0978916824/ref=pe_pe_5050_6200340_pe_snp_824
:D
Spitfire
07-24-2007, 01:46 PM
Reminds me of Archie for some reason, whoever is doing this issue needs to do the Forever War if Berger can't. Unless Chris Allan does it!
Roseangelo
07-24-2007, 01:57 PM
Reminds me of Archie for some reason, whoever is doing this issue needs to do the Forever War if Berger can't. Unless Chris Allan does it!
Chris Allan is drawing The Forever War. Dan never drew any of the Archie comics.
Spitfire
07-24-2007, 04:29 PM
Chris Allan is drawing The Forever War. Dan never drew any of the Archie comics.
I know he didn't but I love his art style and I could see it adapted to Archie nicely.
But I'm glad Allan is doing Forever War it's only right.
Raph's Girl
07-24-2007, 05:01 PM
No, I believe it's just an abandoned child that he finds. He's in Tokyo and the kid is Japanese.
Yea true... In the Archie series April ended up with a Chinese man named Chu who had the power to become a dragon.
But I'm glad Allan is doing Forever War it's only right.
Aye indeed! Have u seen the new image of Ninjara he did recently?! I love the new look for her. Her hair is longer and she's got the white masking that red foxes normally have. :D
http://bp1.blogger.com/_gb-JVVPbQkU/RoQKyL8rdtI/AAAAAAAAAH0/HWNM9F3rloc/s1600/Ninjara_overhead.jpg
Andrew NDB
07-24-2007, 08:26 PM
Dan never drew any of the Archie comics.
His first ever TMNT project was inking Archie #8, to name one. A lot of Dan comes through, even in his inks.
Raph's Girl
07-29-2007, 10:53 PM
Plot of Tales 40 revealed at Comic Con:
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=122389
Comic Title: Tales of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles #40: “Silent Knight”
Creative Team: Steve Murphy (writer), Diego Jourdan (interior art and cover)
Synopsis: It’s the year 2025, Christmas Eve… a forlorn Raphael makes his way through the sewers of Tokyo… and finds an abandoned baby. What should be a simple trip to the local hospital turns into a deadly gauntlet as Raphael and the child are attacked by… The Foot! An issue brimming with all-out ninja action!
Date of release: November 2007
So we're now expecting Raph to lose his eye within the next 18 years...fascinating. ô,0
odupianist
07-30-2007, 06:39 AM
Or he could be having a problem with his eye, maybe an infection. It doesn't necessarily ahve to be gone just yet. Who knows.
Ninjinister
07-30-2007, 08:07 AM
That would make him lose badass points, though.
Hey! At least we know he gets cured from his Gameraph-ness!
diegojourdan
08-01-2007, 10:21 PM
Or he could be having a problem with his eye, maybe an infection.
...er, somebody's been reading too much into this :lol:
FUTURE RAPH = NO EYE / SAME BADASS, BUTT-KICKIN' TURTLE, OK?
:D
Andrew NDB
08-01-2007, 11:23 PM
...er, somebody's been reading too much into this :lol:
FUTURE RAPH = NO EYE / SAME BADASS, BUTT-KICKIN' TURTLE, OK?
:D
Yes.
Though in a post-Volume 4 world with Utroms and such running around, there's no good reason that Raphael couldn't have his eye replaced with a cloned eye via Utrom tech or the latest stem cell treatments of the next century or so. But... it's very much in character for Raphael to tell such treatments to go F themselves, and slap an eyepatch on and keep it groovin'.
VaughnMichael
08-01-2007, 11:44 PM
Yes.
Though in a post-Volume 4 world with Utroms and such running around, there's no good reason that Raphael couldn't have his eye replaced with a cloned eye via Utrom tech or the latest stem cell treatments of the next century or so. But... it's very much in character for Raphael to tell such treatments to go F themselves, and slap an eyepatch on and keep it groovin'.
Actully there is a good reason...Simply Raphael HATES Robots ;) :lol:
ZariusTwo
08-01-2007, 11:48 PM
Or he could be having a problem with his eye, maybe an infection. It doesn't necessarily ahve to be gone just yet. Who knows.
Oh yeah, a major plot detail at comicon is Raph gets a one-issue eye infection. That'll boost sales.
It'll be an eye loss, as fans wuv Archie fanwank.
VaughnMichael
08-01-2007, 11:52 PM
It'll be an eye loss, as fans wuv Archie fanwank.
Fan do Wuv Archie tmnt Thank you very much :P
Punix
08-02-2007, 03:59 AM
I tought Laird didn't want any future tmnt stories
Raph's Girl
08-02-2007, 07:51 AM
It'll be an eye loss, as fans wuv Archie fanwank.
Lesse Raphael looses an eye in the following things:
1: Mirage's Michelangelo Christmas Special had a secondary story in which Raphael is visited Scrooge style by the ghosts of christmas past, present, and future....the ghost of Christmas future showed him a future in which he's in a swamp with just 1 eye (in the Archie series he has a nightmare about said swamp....)
2: The Image series - Raphael looses half his face in an explosion and he becomes the new Shredder. So a whole series with Raph and a missing eye
3: The Archie series...again an explosion is the culprit (and Armaggen the eeeevil mutant shark) for Raph's missing eye
4: Same As It Never Was - Raph's missing an eye!
And it's always his left eye too.
diegojourdan
08-02-2007, 09:03 AM
Though in a post-Volume 4 world with Utroms and such running around, there's no good reason that Raphael couldn't have his eye replaced with a cloned eye via Utrom tech or the latest stem cell treatments of the next century or so. But... it's very much in character for Raphael to tell such treatments to go F themselves, and slap an eyepatch on and keep it groovin'.
What's an "Ultrom" ? :|
Seriously, all this story's about is Raph kickin' butt, and gettin' kicked in turn, and then kickin' some more.
Seeya in the funnies :D
Buslady
08-02-2007, 02:20 PM
they just like to dwell on the whole eyeball issue.
cant wait to see lots of nice butt kicking Raphness from you Diego! :D
now if i cna just find a comic shop close enough :(
diegojourdan
08-02-2007, 03:54 PM
cant wait to see lots of nice butt kicking Raphness from you Diego!
You just earned yourself a signed copy of ish #40 when it comes out (guessing around January, if i get my comps then)!
PM me a PO Box where i could air-mail it to :)
Andrew NDB
08-02-2007, 06:57 PM
Some people tend to act like the eye-patched Raphael was an invention of the Archie series. It wasn't.
TristanHuwJones
08-02-2007, 08:18 PM
That's right. If I remember right, Raph had the eyepatch in the Puma Blues short where he's in the swamplands... or did that RPG short come first?
Andrew NDB
08-02-2007, 08:38 PM
That's right. If I remember right, Raph had the eyepatch in the Puma Blues short where he's in the swamplands... or did that RPG short come first?
Good question. Looks like Road Hogs came out in 1986 (which had the short I think you're referring to)... though he seemed to have both eyes intact in that future (though one could have been a blind eye, for all we know).
Raven
08-03-2007, 01:00 AM
Man the art is fantastic! I might have to actually start picking up tales now, if you dont mind me asking diego how did you come to be an artist at Mirage?
discordiatookie
08-03-2007, 08:12 AM
What's an "Ultrom" ? :|
An utrom is the reason the turtles exist! They're aliens who crash landed on earth, before taking up disguises as humans and starting TCRI, which is where the cannister of ooze came from that mutated Splinter and the turtles. (and Leatherhead!) They came back to earth in vol 4, and basically opened it to all sorts of aliens and what not, thus making the turtles public! They look a bit like basketball sized brains with tentacles and are what Krang in the old toon is loosely based on!
VaughnMichael
08-03-2007, 11:18 AM
An utrom is the reason the turtles exist! They're aliens who crash landed on earth, before taking up disguises as humans and starting TCRI, which is where the cannister of ooze came from that mutated Splinter and the turtles. (and Leatherhead!) They came back to earth in vol 4, and basically opened it to all sorts of aliens and what not, thus making the turtles public! They look a bit like basketball sized brains with tentacles and are what Krang in the old toon is loosely based on!
He was being sarcastic because the other person spelled the characters name wrong. Ultrom is not correct and is also a huge pet peve of mine.
discordiatookie
08-03-2007, 12:23 PM
He was being sarcastic because the other person spelled the characters name wrong. Ultrom is not correct and is also a huge pet peve of mine.
That's what I thought to begin with, but I couldn't and still can't see the word 'Utrom' spelled incorrectly in both Andrew NDB's post and Diego's quote of his, nor an indication that it had been edited, so I thought it was just an honest question!
diegojourdan
08-03-2007, 01:01 PM
...so I thought it was just an honest question!
It actually was, thank you for clearing that out for me.
Basically i'm a cartoonist/illustrator, and my job is to draw the turtles the best way i'm capable of. Tho i enjoy reading comics from time to time, i have never been able to collect nor follow a single title in my whole life! :lol:
Man the art is fantastic! I might have to actually start picking up tales now, if you dont mind me asking diego how did you come to be an artist at Mirage?
You have to blame Dan Berger for introducing me to Steve Murphy, and myself for pestering Steve beyond the initial letterhead illos and human tolerance! :D
And here's another sneak peak of ish #40 --hoping it'll lure all turtle-heads in this forums to go BUY it when it comes out! :roll:
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5996/tmnt26bz1.th.jpg (http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tmnt26bz1.jpg)
Buslady
08-03-2007, 01:32 PM
You just earned yourself a signed copy of ish #40 when it comes out (guessing around January, if i get my comps then)!
PM me a PO Box where i could air-mail it to :)
*faints & worships Diego* :D :D :D :D
Nice sneak peeks, i love seeing stuff like that!
Ninjinister
08-03-2007, 02:25 PM
And here's another sneak peak of ish #40 --hoping it'll lure all turtle-heads in this forums to go BUY it when it comes out! :roll:
Oh, Diego, you didn't have to entice us to purchase it. We already had designs to. At least I did.
Raph has a sai AND a sword? Mondo awesome. Is that the saya on his back?
discordiatookie
08-03-2007, 03:04 PM
OOH that is frickin's sweet, Diego!! Can't wait for this issue! Future turtles are always great in my book....
VaughnMichael
08-03-2007, 05:15 PM
That's what I thought to begin with, but I couldn't and still can't see the word 'Utrom' spelled incorrectly in both Andrew NDB's post and Diego's quote of his, nor an indication that it had been edited, so I thought it was just an honest question!
It is spelled Utrom U.T.R.O.M. quite a few people miss-spell it U.L.T.H.R.O.M.
Just as tuns of people spell RAPHAEL, SHOATE, ARMAGGON, & many other characters names wrong.
It's just really something that annoys me.
Venom
08-03-2007, 06:03 PM
Actually it's spelled "Chote". The other two were right, however.
VaughnMichael
08-03-2007, 06:10 PM
Actually it's spelled "Chote". The other two were right, however.
Actully the toy spells it Shoate I know it's Chote but I happen to prefer the way the toy line spells it ;)
Venom
08-03-2007, 06:15 PM
Hehe, yeah the comic spelling does look rather risque. :)
Andrew NDB
08-03-2007, 08:38 PM
And here's another sneak peak of ish #40 --hoping it'll lure all turtle-heads in this forums to go BUY it when it comes out! :roll:
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5996/tmnt26bz1.th.jpg (http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tmnt26bz1.jpg)
Holy god, that's awesome, man.
jenna
08-04-2007, 05:33 AM
And here's another sneak peak of ish #40 --hoping it'll lure all turtle-heads in this forums to go BUY it when it comes out! :roll:
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5996/tmnt26bz1.th.jpg (http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tmnt26bz1.jpg)
Can't wait can't wait can't wait. :D
Love the illustrations. Beautiful.
diegojourdan
08-04-2007, 10:27 AM
Oh, Diego, you didn't have to entice us to purchase it.
Yes i did! :lol:
This is probably my last Tales ish for a LONG while, as Mirage decided to give most of 2008 Tales issues to staff members, therefore leaving us freelancers to pursuit our dreams elsewhere :roll:
I also found out there isn't likely to come any licensing work my way either (same thing, staff artists will handle that as well) ...:ohwell:
jenna
08-04-2007, 11:11 AM
Yes i did! :lol:
This is probably my last Tales ish for a LONG while, as Mirage decided to give most of 2008 Tales issues to staff members, therefore leaving us freelancers to pursuit our dreams elsewhere :roll:
I also found out there isn't likely to come any licensing work my way either (same thing, staff artists will handle that as well) ...:ohwell:
Man, that sucks. I know what it's like to be freelance so you have my utmost empathy. However, who knows what 2009 will bring?? TMNT work galore? You never know. And if comments on this forum are anything to go by, there is a lot of interest in your style of work amongst the fans. Maybe the right kind of feedback to Mirage will make them reassess the situation?
Andrew NDB
08-04-2007, 01:43 PM
Yes i did! :lol:
This is probably my last Tales ish for a LONG while, as Mirage decided to give most of 2008 Tales issues to staff members, therefore leaving us freelancers to pursuit our dreams elsewhere :roll:
I also found out there isn't likely to come any licensing work my way either (same thing, staff artists will handle that as well) ...:ohwell:
Ought to work for DC or such. Look at the rubbish they have in Countdown, or had over in Ion -- do up a big portfolio and send it over to them.
diegojourdan
08-04-2007, 03:14 PM
Maybe the right kind of feedback to Mirage will make them reassess the situation?
Best feedback would be Tales#40 selling out ;)
Ought to work for DC or such. Look at the rubbish they have in Countdown, or had over in Ion -- do up a big portfolio and send it over to them.
Not interested in either Marvel nor DC (i think they have enough people already), but thanks for the advice :)
VaughnMichael
08-04-2007, 06:28 PM
Best feedback would be Tales#40 selling out ;)
Isn't hard to do considering most comic shops consider TMNT to be a joke and hardly order any issues and the ones that do can't get more issues from Mirage because of low demand or something to that nature.*shruggs*
But yeah I have a subscription at a locol shop i found so I finally don't have to worry about finding anything anymore.:D
diegojourdan
08-05-2007, 10:08 PM
most comic shops consider TMNT to be a joke and hardly order any issues
Is this true? I never got that impression from the many comic-shops i went to in different States while in the US...
On my end i'm trying to make Tales #40 as commercially attractive as possible, now it's up to the fans to prove comic-shop owners wrong :ohwell:
Of course, if you wanna write Mirage and tell them "we want more Diego!", there's nothing wrong with that i guess ;)
Roseangelo
08-05-2007, 10:20 PM
Is this true? I never got that impression from the many comic-shops i went to in different States while in the US...
Yeah, it's pretty true. As you know, Vol. 4 sold miserably and lost money (not surprising, as it is rather unattractive and as it is most hardcore fans don't like the story if they can manage to ignore the art, I can't imagine a casual fan would find any interest in it at all).
Tales has only started doing relatively well in the wake of the new movie, I believe. But it's hard to get shops to commit to a title that changes with each issue.
On my end i'm trying to make Tales #40 as commercially attractive as possible, now it's up to the fans to prove comic-shop owners wrong :ohwell:
I don't doubt that #40 will be fantastic and my subscription with the local comic shop guarantees that I'll be getting one. But my comic book guy would never ever order more copies of the book than what he's got orders for. I honestly don't blame him because while some issues would easily sell off-the-shelf, the title isn't consistent enough for him to be guaranteed that every issue will sell off-the-shelf and his shop isn't large enough for him to be able to afford sitting inventory.
Raph's Girl
11-02-2007, 03:53 PM
Hey all. Just a heads up that Midtown is listing Tales of the TMNT 40 as coming out on Wednesday, November 7th.
“Silent Knight” - It’s the year 2025, Christmas Eve… a forlorn Raphael makes his way through the sewers of Tokyo… and finds an abandoned baby. What should be a simple trip to the local hospital turns into a deadly gauntlet as Raphael and the child are attacked by… The Foot!
Scandia
11-02-2007, 03:59 PM
Yeppers, the bloke who works at the comic book store told me it comes out next week. I was like "YES!" with my arm.
Raph'N'Roll
11-04-2007, 02:12 PM
diegojourdan: This is probably my last Tales ish for a LONG while, as Mirage decided to give most of 2008 Tales issues to staff members
Well that's a real shame, your art style is fantastic and this issue has a #36 vibe off it, with it's hardcore ninja action!
diegojourdan: Of course, if you wanna write Mirage and tell them "we want more Diego!", there's nothing wrong with that i guess
Unfortunately with Peter Laird's attitude of "Don't buy it if you don't like it " he doesn't seem to be taking notice of what the fans want from the comic, so that would probably go unheard.
Roseangelo
11-07-2007, 06:24 PM
This issue is awesome.
Great work Diego, and I just love the ending.
DrSpengler
11-07-2007, 07:21 PM
Really good. I typically don't like silent issues since I breeze through them in 30 seconds (I can only stare at the art for so long). This one held my interest, though.
The ending seemed kind of weird. I guess the truce got called off at some point.
Andrew NDB
11-07-2007, 07:51 PM
The ending seemed kind of weird. I guess the truce got called off at some point.
I took it not as the truce being called off, but just Karai wanting to play one last hand with the Turtles, for whatever reason.
I liked the issue, loved the art, loved Raph actually being allowed to go balls-out for an issue (something I would hope we'd see in the Raphael mini-series).
The ending, though, yeah... I can swallow that a 90 year old Karai, in the mire of her old age, might want to relive the old days of fighting against the TMNT just for the -- wait, what? Under Karai, the Foot (either NY branch or otherwise) never screwed with the TMNT. If anything, Karai's "those good old days" would be her fighting with the TMNT against a different enemy.
Digressing, and maybe I'm picking at nits, but the ending kind of left me with the same kind of taste in my mouth as the recent Casey issue... sort of a, "Hm, that was entertaining, but what was the point?"
But in the end, we get nice art, a grizzled Future Raph, lots of grit, actual ninja fighting paneled/choreographed in proper "Return to NY" style, even some tones (even if they're the barely-there/quickie Photoshoppy ones)... so I can't knock it too much.
DrSpengler
11-07-2007, 08:49 PM
Something I noticed...
The solicits for the issue say it takes place in 2025 but the issue itself says its 2060.
2025 seemed to make more sense, given that Karai is alive and all, but 2060 is what it says and what it says is, well, what it says.
Maybe they figured 2025 wasn't far enough into the future so they kicked it up a notch.
diegojourdan
11-07-2007, 09:52 PM
This issue is awesome.
Great work Diego, and I just love the ending.
Yeah, I AM McLovin' !!! :D
Something I noticed...
The solicits for the issue say it takes place in 2025 but the issue itself says its 2060.
2025 seemed to make more sense, given that Karai is alive and all, but 2060 is what it says and what it says is, well, what it says.
Maybe they figured 2025 wasn't far enough into the future so they kicked it up a notch.
Sorry man, never been good at math :ohwell:
Fledermaus
11-07-2007, 09:57 PM
Holy CRAP it's out already??? :o
I've been looking forward to this for months. :D
Andrew NDB
11-07-2007, 10:00 PM
Well, we know Karai was old enough to have a daughter who was upwards of 16 years old, and this was in the 1980s in the continuity. So yeah... she'd be real old in 2060.
But then, I'm not an expert in modern, life-extending 2060 medicine. Are you?
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
11-08-2007, 07:29 AM
Foot action, Raph, eyepatchs, kickin' butt, all-out violent fights, Karai...
Ah! Reminds me of the good ol' days of Volumes 1 and 3!
I give it two green thumbs-up!
oldmanwinters
11-09-2007, 09:03 AM
I think Diego's art has made great strides even since Tales #37. The ink and toning job on this comic is well done, and provides a good sense of depth to the panels. The snow effect works very well, like the Michelangelo Christmas special from way back.
Time Mistress
11-09-2007, 02:39 PM
Good issue Diego! Very moody and great to see Raph cut loose for once. And the inclusion of robot foot soldiers harkening back to the OT was a nice touch.
Andrew NDB
11-09-2007, 07:23 PM
Good issue Diego! Very moody and great to see Raph cut loose for once. And the inclusion of robot foot soldiers harkening back to the OT was a nice touch.
*shakes head*
Wait, those were robots? Did I not properly read the issue? I guess that makes sense, since Karai sending flesh and blood Foot against Raphael to be killed would seem a little bloodthirsty just for bloodthirsty's sake.
Scratch a few points off the grittiness scale for me on #40, then, but still a solid issue.
diegojourdan
11-09-2007, 08:37 PM
Thank y'all for the nice comments! I'm very proud everybody seems to like the issue so far :)
Raph's Girl
11-10-2007, 02:56 AM
Diego: Awesome artwork!
And WOOT WOOT!! Karai!! I did NOT expect to see Karai!! :D
So by 2060 Karai has a great-granddaughter. Calculating everything together and she'd have a kid of her own soon. Unless she had one in the missing 16 years. *blinks* Or the daughter of hers who died in CAW wasn't her only child.... the mind boggles. :rolling:
Karai didn't age well..oh dear...
Several things I liked:
1: Raph's face upon smelling Motoko's diaper...ooh.. stiiinky! :dead:
2: Raph getting those nice er street ladies to change the diaper and get milk. :lol:
3: Raph actually getting a posse!
4: Karai! :D
Did ya'll get the idea for the name Motoko from anime?? There's several Anime that have a character named Motoko. Like Love Hina and Ghost In the Shell.
I have a couple questions tho. Why was Motoko in the sewer anyways?? Did Karai know Raph was in Tokyo?
I just looked up what the name Motoko means (I always do when I come across unusual names):
Motoko: Child of the Capital
The Japanese name Motoko may be written with the characters for "metropolis; capital" (moto) and "child" (ko). Other possibilities include "tree trunk" or "elementary; principle" for 'moto' and "child" (ko).
Spawn Guy
11-10-2007, 03:56 PM
Howdy folks,
Happy Thanksgiving! Ye gods how the time flies by when you're trying to put out a monthly book (which we sometimes manage to do on schedule-insert your own "Mirage is late" joke here). I'd love to go cold turkey on missing deadlines, but unfortunately it's just something that happens with a staff as wee as ours is (insert your own wee staff joke here-or better yet don't). Hopefully things will improve next year(It's out New Year's Resolution-that and eating more green vegetables), which isn't too far away now! Did I mention that time flies?
My fellow fans, I do believe we're being called out.
oldmanwinters
11-10-2007, 05:33 PM
My fellow fans, I do believe we're being called out.
Let me just say how much I appreciate the loyalty and longevity of the Mirage staff. Also, from what I've seen, most guys who have worked on a Turtles book are very approachable, humble, and grateful.
MechanisticMoth
11-11-2007, 02:45 AM
I basically agree with all the hype and complete awesomeness of the issue. I lost some faith with Tales on and off again, but this issue and 37 revived it. The action was so fluid that I could imagine what happened between the frames, and the angles from a filmmaking standpoint were really great.
atgthatsme
11-12-2007, 12:55 PM
really dissapointed with these issue. the last few months have been great. another future tale next month which i'm not saying i'm looking forward, after a great year it this issue was a big downer for me :(. bring back tristan!!
VaughnMichael
11-14-2007, 09:29 PM
The cover of this issue was the best thing {even if the dpi on it was wrong and it came out pixelated, the art inside is pretty nice but it could have used the nice colors the cover had.
The story was cute but there's not to much to it just like the casey jones story.
It was decent and was nice to see Raphael in the future and not living in a swamp but there wasn't just much to this.
soccerstud652
11-21-2007, 01:12 PM
When is Tales 40 going to be shipping?
Roseangelo
11-21-2007, 02:59 PM
Tales #40 came out Nov. 7th.
soccerstud652
11-21-2007, 04:23 PM
Any online sites that I can buy it from asap? I thought this was delayed until late November. Good news!
xZAOx
11-26-2007, 10:07 PM
Mine was missing like 8 pages. They were just plain white :(. I get mine online, not from a brick and mortar store.
I'll see if Dan can help me - if not, maybe the online comic shop can =/.
Spitfire
12-01-2007, 03:22 AM
I liked the issue, the artwork was a wonder to behold after reading Bad Moon #4. I actually enjoyed an issue that didn't rely on tons of heavy reading for once. The artwork was allowed to shine through. We don't need these all the time but I did like it alot.
Buslady
12-02-2007, 09:42 AM
Got mine from a very special source :P The first time I didn't have to hunt down an issue..Enjoyed it and the art!
I liked the back cover too; a peek into Raph's gentle side.
Spawn Guy
12-02-2007, 10:04 AM
Digressing, and maybe I'm picking at nits, but the ending kind of left me with the same kind of taste in my mouth as the recent Casey issue... sort of a, "Hm, that was entertaining, but what was the point?"
I think that was the point.
Mr._Mutant_Man
12-02-2007, 06:04 PM
Today I went to a comic shop that wasn't my usual one and I made my first purchase of current TMNT issues: I got this one, and then in the back issue bin they had a few others and got Tales #10 and Vol. 4 #2.
I guess this one was pretty good. I like the art, but I guess I prefer something a little more dialogue heavy. Maybe it's because the only other Mirage I've read is the beginning of Volume 1 (up to Return to NY), but what's with the future Raphael? Have they told future stories like that before?
Haven't read the other two issues I got yet. Looking forward to those. Glad I was on the lookout for Turtles comics, they are a nice break from my usual Marvel and DC purchases. :)
diegojourdan
12-06-2007, 06:16 AM
"Heeeey! Mr. Mutant Man, play a song for me,
I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to.
Heeeey! Mr. Mutant Man, play a song for me,
In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you."
Sorry, i couldn't help myself :lol:
Thanks to everybody here at the Technodrome for their nice comments and constant support, i'm very honored :)
Mr._Mutant_Man
12-06-2007, 09:09 AM
"Heeeey! Mr. Mutant Man, play a song for me,
I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to.
Heeeey! Mr. Mutant Man, play a song for me,
In the jingle jangle morning I'll come followin' you."
Sorry, i couldn't help myself :lol:
I never thought of Mr. Tambourine Man when I came up with the username.:lol:
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