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a_big_apple
07-06-2007, 01:12 AM
I looked around past threads for some info on this and didn't find any, but I'm really half asleep right now, so I might have missed something...At any rate, I hope I'm not repeating a thread needlessly.
I'm just beginning to accumulate the Mirage comics (I was a fan and collector of the Archie comics as a kid, but for some reason am only just now getting into the Mirage stuff), and I'm trying to get collected books as much as I can. From what I can tell, there are seven collected books for Volume One, right? But there are more issues than that in Vol. One. Am I missing something? Will the rest of Vol. One ever be collected? Are there collected books for the later and current volumes? It's just so much easier when I don't have to track them down issue by issue.... Lol. I've examined the Comics section of ninjaturtles.com in the hopes of sorting it out, but somehow that confused me more....
Roseangelo
07-06-2007, 01:28 AM
From what I can tell, there are seven collected books for Volume One, right?
Yes, this is correct.
But there are more issues than that in Vol. One. Am I missing something?
Issues #31 (http://www.ninjaturtles.com/comics/mirage/volume01/31/31.htm), 35 (http://www.ninjaturtles.com/comics/mirage/volume01/35/35.htm), and 36 (http://www.ninjaturtles.com/comics/mirage/volume01/36/36.htm) by Michael Zulli were recently collected into a book called Soul's Winter (http://www.ninjaturtles.com/comics/books/souls-winter.htm). This is currently available from Mirage and other comic retailers.
No more issues from Vol. 1 have been collected into books.
Will the rest of Vol. One ever be collected?
Right now we can only hope that they will be.
Are there collected books for the later and current volumes? It's just so much easier when I don't have to track them down issue by issue.... Lol. I've examined the Comics section of ninjaturtles.com in the hopes of sorting it out, but somehow that confused me more....
Vol. 2 was never collected and Vol. 4 has not been collected. There is a book that collects the first five issues of Vol. 3, but Vol. 3 is not canon (dunno if that makes a difference to you) and I think it's somewhat hard to find.
There is an old book that collects the seven issues of Tales Vol. 1, but it's a bit hard to find and usually expensive if you do find it. The good news is that this book will be reprinted this Fall.
Otherwise the only other collected books are the recent ones that are collecting Tales Vol. 2.
TristanHuwJones
07-06-2007, 02:14 AM
Are you interested in collecting everything Avalon, or just what is considered canon? If you just want the core Turtles story, then there's a large amount of Vol.1 you can probably overlook in your back issue searches, and most of what is considered continuity these days is collected in those seven books (though there are a couple of stories that I think are now considered out of continuity).
It's my understanding that the first few major story lines will be collected and relettered possibly retoned (but don't quote me) by Pete at some point in the future.
However if you're after any stories from Vol. 1 then you will have to pick up individual issues (outside of Soul's Winter).
Hope this helps! By the by, don't forget to pick up Tales of the TMNT #36! It ties into the Pete and Kevin's epic finale to Vol.1 and should be out this coming week, or the week following (either way, it will be out before I hit San Diego)!
a_big_apple
07-06-2007, 08:54 AM
Awesome, thanks for the info! Rose, you manage to put everything so clearly... :) And thanks for the explanation, Tristan. I'm not terribly concerned at this point with what's canon and what's not, I'm just always itching for more TMNT to read. So it looks like I'll be searching out individual issues!
Mr._Mutant_Man
07-15-2007, 09:55 PM
Yeah, from my experience individual issues are probably your best bet. I managed to get volumes 2-5 of the trades at the official website, but as far as the stuff that covers issues 1-11, the individual issues may be the best way to go until Laird finally goes George Lucas on those issues for a trade. I've tried getting collected book Vol. 1 on eBay before, but it's pretty tough and can get probably more expensive than the book is worth.
I bought a lot of Collected books a year ago. Some have jumped in "value" already.
I own 2 copies of Vol. 1 First Printings. Paid $45 a pop for both (once on Milehighcomics - they don't carry it currently) and another time on Ebay ( got lucky the seller didn't know exactly how to title the Ebay sale, it sat in never never land 'till I found it).
http://www.ninjaturtles.com/comics/books/volone1998.jpg
I believe the First Printings are worth at least $100 each at this point. They are pretty rare. The collected Tales Vol. 1 , I won for $20 on ebay.
I have a second printing of Vol 1., when April w/ afro is climbing up the sewer, and I won that for only $10 a year ago, but now it's going for $40-50.
(I would'nt pay that much personally for the 2nd printing.)
You can find most of the other Volumes, 2,3,4,5 on http://www.ninjaturtles.com/order/catgn.htm , in Mint condition for a lot less than you get on ebay (unless you get lucky, once I found a person selling all 6 (2,3,4,5,6,7) at a combined $25 buy it now, that was a quick sale :D
If you are looking for the Collected Books Ebay is really the best place. Just stay active and eventually you will steal a bid, or find someone selling them that doesn't know what they are actually selling.
What I really want to find someday at a flea market or an old book store is the Hardcover Vol. 1 #1, only a 1,000 copies of that in the world. Never seen it with my naked eyes.
What I really want to find someday at a flea market or an old book store is the Hardcover Vol. 1 #1, only a 1,000 copies of that in the world. Never seen it with my naked eyes.
Yea, those sell for a pretty penny on ebay when they occasionally show up...
Roseangelo
09-25-2007, 05:45 PM
Back around '99 or '00 or somewhere around there, someone must have found a few boxes of Collected Book 1 with the B&W Peter Laird cover in a warehouse somewhere, because they were constantly on eBay for $35 for a period of several months, often going unsold. That's when I got my copy.
What I really want to find someday at a flea market or an old book store is the Hardcover Vol. 1 #1, only a 1,000 copies of that in the world. Never seen it with my naked eyes.
I have a friend who won the art contest on ninjaturtles.com waaaay back in the early days ('96 or '97). The prize was supposed to be a Surf the Web t-shirt, but someone was feeling mighty generous because instead she got shipped someone's personal copy of that hardcover. A bit beat up, but very sweet.
turkishproverb
09-25-2007, 06:42 PM
Well, I thought that this might help:
ttp://www.ninjaturtles.com/comics/books/books.htm
listing of most of the collected trades of Turtles. Ever.
except these:
http://www.ninjaturtles.com/comics/archie/digests/index.htm
The archie Digests, which may or may not count as books depending on how oyu look at it, but are collected editions.
Still leaves alot of uncollected storeis, though.
turkishproverb
09-25-2007, 06:45 PM
oops, I don't think those links list the IMage or Bodycount trades.
Roseangelo
09-25-2007, 06:48 PM
You can see all of the different collected books here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/roseangelo/sets/72157600695878331/) (sans Archie digests).
turkishproverb
09-25-2007, 06:55 PM
...
Showoff.
You can see all of the different collected books here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/roseangelo/sets/72157600695878331/) (sans Archie digests).
WOW!
You own the hardcover!
BTW, how many limited edition softcover first printings do you think they made? I own 2 copies in very fine condition which I plan on holding onto to sell in 40 years.
Roseangelo
09-27-2007, 05:21 PM
BTW, how many limited edition softcover first printings do you think they made? I own 2 copies in very fine condition which I plan on holding onto to sell in 40 years.
I *think* it was 5,000. It was definitely more than the 1,000 the hardcover was limited to. I'm sure I can dig up some concrete numbers on it.
Mr._Mutant_Man
09-27-2007, 11:29 PM
I don't know if you're picky about them being in black and white like they were originally or not, but I recently acquired the first 11 issues via the four color trade paperbacks. A bit beat up, but still pretty good condition all things considered. I think these four books may be a bit easier to find than the collected book volume one, but I'm not sure.
Roseangelo
09-27-2007, 11:36 PM
I don't know if you're picky about them being in black and white like they were originally or not, but I recently acquired the first 11 issues via the four color trade paperbacks. A bit beat up, but still pretty good condition all things considered. I think these four books may be a bit easier to find than the collected book volume one, but I'm not sure.
They are easier to find, and generally at very reasonable prices. I just upgraded my beat-up copies for brand new copies for only $20. I love the coloring in them. These books are missing the Raph, Mike, and Don solos, but those are easily found individually.
Mr._Mutant_Man
09-27-2007, 11:39 PM
They are easier to find, and generally at very reasonable prices. I just upgraded my beat-up copies for brand new copies for only $20. I love the coloring in them. These books are missing the Raph, Mike, and Don solos, but those are easily found individually.
That's pretty awesome. A couple of my books are bent a little, but considering they are nearly twenty years old they are in good shape.
a_big_apple
09-30-2007, 02:32 AM
I don't know if you're picky about them being in black and white like they were originally or not, but I recently acquired the first 11 issues via the four color trade paperbacks. A bit beat up, but still pretty good condition all things considered. I think these four books may be a bit easier to find than the collected book volume one, but I'm not sure.
Ooh, for some reason it never occurred to me to look for color trades... I think I knew they were out there, but it didn't quite click. That's something to keep my eyes peeled for, for sure.
sai of relief
10-02-2007, 10:40 AM
i'm not really into the collected books, i'm trying to get a full run of the 62 including all printings...but i couldn't say no to this with free shipping. they're waiting at home as i'm currently in bulgaria!
i now have a spare of book I, so i can trade that off if need be when i get home in a few months...
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=170151457805&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=007
http://cgi.ebay.com/NINJA-TURTLES-COLLECTED-COMIC-BOOK-VOL-1-TMNT_W0QQitemZ110179596478QQihZ001QQcategoryZ45451 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/NINJA-TURTLES-COLLECTED-COMIC-BOOK-VOL-1-TMNT_W0QQitemZ110179596478QQihZ001QQcategoryZ45451 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
MrPliggins
10-17-2007, 09:28 PM
Those auctions...Holy crap....I tried, but the crazy bid wars overcame my small wallet.
PAAATE
10-17-2007, 10:48 PM
Haha, and that collected book was up on Tradera (Swedish eBay) and was sold for 20 Swedish kronors. That's like... 3 dollars...
I didn't bid, though, since I already have bought all the single issues.
sai of relief
10-18-2007, 04:33 AM
some of those prices are inconsistent.....i thought the hardcover would go for more than $168...i shoulda bid on it!
and i thought that nobody would notice that No. 3 was the white cover variant. damn!:lol:
MrPliggins
10-18-2007, 05:49 AM
Yeah I saw that white cover too and was thinking the same thing...was going to bid on it if no one noticed. Glad I already won that one years ago for like $40.
$168 isn't alot considering the book was originally sold for $100. Oh well, I'll keep trying.
The Vol.1 collected books have definitely gone up in price.
Seems the 2nd printing soft cover is going for $40 usually.
The 1st printing soft cover goes for usually $100 now.
Those prices are double what they were a year ago.
Hey guys. I'm brand new to the site. Thanks for having me.
I have one of the hardcover TMNT volume one books (the one limited to 1,000). I bought it as a kid for a whopping $100, which was HUGE for me. I never read it, and stored it away. What's neat is it still has the letter from Mirage Comics explaining why the book was late and a sealed envelope with a discount-off coupon.
I was just wondering, what is the official name for this book amongst collectors? The covers have no title...so what is it known as?
I don't collect TMNT these days, so I'm considering selling it. But I'd like to get all the info I can on it first.
Thanks guys!
Roseangelo
12-07-2007, 05:39 PM
Hey guys. I'm brand new to the site. Thanks for having me.
I have one of the hardcover TMNT volume one books (the one limited to 1,000). I bought it as a kid for a whopping $100, which was HUGE for me. I never read it, and stored it away. What's neat is it still has the letter from Mirage Comics explaining why the book was late and a sealed envelope with a discount-off coupon.
I was just wondering, what is the official name for this book amongst collectors? The covers have no title...so what is it known as?
I don't collect TMNT these days, so I'm considering selling it. But I'd like to get all the info I can on it first.
Thanks guys!
Hello & welcome!
What you have is simply the limited hardcover edition of TMNT Collected Book 1. And it's a great book!!
Thank you Roseangelo! You've got a great page listing the different TMNT books, by the way.
I used to love TMNT back in the early days, and was so psyched to be able to buy this limited hardcover. I was always such a collector of things, that I stored the book away in a protective box and never even read it (I had the issues it included already).
So...I was really surprised to come across this the other day. I'd forgotten about it, and the condition it's in is amazing.
Thanks so much for your help.
Janus Prospero
12-11-2007, 12:36 PM
I just wanted to point out that it looks like panel to panel now has TMNT Collected Book 6 (http://paneltopanel.net/shop/product_info.php?cPath=33&products_id=844) in stock, which is unavailable from Mirage's site.
Now all I need is Book 7.
Ecto Jedi
01-31-2008, 08:47 PM
How are the pages of First Publishing's four collected TMNT books? Are they the high-quality glossy type of the "Deluxe Edition" TMNT: The Movie comic (also coloured by Lavigne)? Or the standard newspaper-like comic book fare?
Roseangelo
01-31-2008, 08:59 PM
Glossy. They're quite nice.
Rooish
02-01-2008, 05:40 AM
Hey guys. I'm brand new to the site. Thanks for having me.
I have one of the hardcover TMNT volume one books (the one limited to 1,000). I bought it as a kid for a whopping $100, which was HUGE for me. I never read it, and stored it away. What's neat is it still has the letter from Mirage Comics explaining why the book was late and a sealed envelope with a discount-off coupon.
I was just wondering, what is the official name for this book amongst collectors? The covers have no title...so what is it known as?
I don't collect TMNT these days, so I'm considering selling it. But I'd like to get all the info I can on it first.
Thanks guys!
Dude, I'll buy it from you!
Ecto Jedi
02-07-2008, 04:28 PM
Nice -- I just bought all four First books off Ebay in near-mint condition, and for a reasonable price.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150210767775
Congrats! Very nice books...
Ecto Jedi
02-19-2008, 06:00 AM
No kidding, TMNTerminator. These books are awesome -- the colouring is exquisite, especially for issues #1, #10, and #11. My only gripe is with Book I, specifically issue #2; the colouring doesn't seem to match any of the other issues in terms of quality. You'd think I'm just griping here, but the difference really is noticeable. Anyone else find this?
Mr._Mutant_Man
02-19-2008, 05:06 PM
Nice -- I just bought all four First books off Ebay in near-mint condition, and for a reasonable price.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150210767775
In near mint? That's really good. If you tried to find all four separately you may end up paying roughly around that much, but odds are they'd be pretty worn. My copies are bent and worn here and there.
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