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Well, here's an interesting article I came across today: the so-called worst cartoons ever (fortunately TMNT is not on the list)...take a look and discuss!
http://tv.msn.com/new-on-dvd/feature-article/?news=267913>1=10189
Here's the meat of it:
For nearly a century, America has loved cartoons. We love talking dogs and courageous mice. We fantasize about giant robots and rocket rides through space. Every Saturday, millions of kids pile in front of their basement TVs, chomping sugary cereals and delighting in animated adventures: Scrooge McDuck (http://tv.msn.com/tv/series/ducktales) seeking troves of gold, Elmer Fudd hunting wascawy wabbits, Tom chasing Jerry (http://tv.msn.com/tv/series/tom-and-jerry_1), Ren conning Stimpy (http://tv.msn.com/tv/series/the-ren-and-stimpy-show), Itchy murdering Scratchy (http://tv.msn.com/tv/series/the-simpsons_2) ...
When you think about it, cartoons are the first pop culture a child sees. Before they've heard an entire Raffi (http://tv.msn.com/artist/?artist=16092842) CD, kids have already memorized the Disney pantheon, from Chip and Dale to Baloo the Bear. Kids are picky customers, but they get addicted fast. And sometimes the shows they love are less than perfect -- badly written, poorly animated and ultimately brain-rotting -- and years later, after a kid has grown up and become a successful video-game tester, he will discover that a favorite cartoon really wasn't up to par.
Here are some of our favorite shockers, cartoons that seemed so much better when we were young. We may have spent hours, even entire weekends, following these colorful stories (we were mere tots! Who could blame us?), but now that DVDs can allow for a second viewing, we wonder what we were thinking. Hindsight may be 20/20, but regret is forever.
"Transformers"
Yes, yes, we know: "'Transformers' was my childhood favorite! I owned all the action figures! I used to sing the theme song on my way to kindergarten!" Trust us, we've been there. What Generation X childhood was complete without a shelf full of Aerialbots? But have you seen "Transformers" recently? Or even in the past 10 years? Grown-up fans can find the series disappointing: nothing but slow car chases, bland explosions and the ear-piercing voice of Starscream. In this millennia-long war, characters never seemed to die, they just disappeared -- and the visual artistry that we once admired now looks a little jolty. Plus, the soundtrack: the constant guitar riffs squealing in the background, no matter what was happening. It was enough, in 1984, to root for the Autobots just because Optimus Prime sounded like John Wayne (http://tv.msn.com/celebs/celeb.aspx?c=13441) -- but why, exactly, were the Autobots good and the Decepticons evil? Today we expect more of our action heroes. Let's just hope that Michael Bay (http://tv.msn.com/celebs/celeb.aspx?c=237738) can transform "Transformers (http://tv.msn.com/movies/movie.aspx?m=583042)" and truly make them "more than meets the eye."
Buy it on DVD (http://shopping.msn.com/results/shp/?text=Transformers+dvd,scId=9,page=3)
"Silverhawks"
Everybody likes good science fiction, especially science fiction set in space. With cowboys. Cowboys covered in steel bodysuits. With hawks' wings built into them. So they can fly and fight an intergalactic crime syndicate in the Limbo star cluster, sometime around the 29th century. A crime syndicate led by Monstar, who can change into an armor-plated monster and rides a space-squid. OK, so nobody liked "Silverhawks," the cosmic spin-off of "Thundercats (http://tv.msn.com/tv/series/thundercats)," but somehow they made 65 episodes, and if Warner Bros. gets its wish, they will one day make it available on DVD. Yee-haw!
"Pokémon (http://tv.msn.com/tv/series/pokémon)"
"Pokémon" had no story, only a Darwinist premise: Ash Ketchum, a young man and aspiring "Pokémon master," travels around with his pet Pikachu, advancing levels as he goes. Ash has a bunch of young friends, and they wander aimlessly, looking for adventure. As a genre, anime cartoons are held in high regard -- for character development, mature themes, complex plots and either smooth animation or really scenic backgrounds. "Pokémon" had none of these qualities. And wasn't not alone: The "Super Mario Bros." and "Pac-Man (http://tv.msn.com/tv/series/pac-man)" cartoons also fell flat, which is what happens when you base a saga on a two-dimensional video game. Now just imagine "Grand Theft Auto: The Animated Series" -- that would be something.
Buy it on DVD (http://shopping.msn.com/results/shp/?text=pokemon%20dvd,pagelink=sa)
"The 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo (http://tv.msn.com/tv/series/the-13-ghosts-of-scooby-doo)"
People love their "Scooby-Doo (http://tv.msn.com/tv/series/scooby-doo,-where-are-you!)." Something about the laid-back gumshoeing, the long chases through Victorian houses, the ghost-masks -- audiences just can't get enough. Every time Fred says, "This looks like a clue!" the kids go wild, and who can blame them? It's the perfect entertainment for a summering second-grader. Or a hungover college student. Or Great-Grandma. But did "Scooby-Doo" really merit so many movies and spin-offs? Especially one like "The 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo," featuring the voice of Vincent Price (http://tv.msn.com/celebs/celeb.aspx?c=173501)? Did the aging Shakespearean actor really need money so badly that he had to sign up as Vincent VanGhoul? This looks like one of Scooby's unsolved mysteries ...
Buy it on DVD (http://shopping.msn.com/noresults/shp/?text=The+13+Ghosts+of+Scooby-Doo+dvd)
"Jem"
You have to give props to "Jem." For a show designed to sell dolls, this Saturday-morning cartoon went way beyond the call of duty: Featuring dozens of characters, complicated subplots and a vast genealogy of rock-star relationships, "Jem" suffers only because it's so dated (big hair, glittery stages and a bad-girl band called the Misfits -- what could be more unwatchable to a modern viewer?). Then again, compared with other all-girl series ("She-Ra (http://tv.msn.com/tv/series/she-ra-princess-of-power)," "My Little Pony"), "Jem" was fairly sophisticated. So let's not call "Jem" the worst; let's say that, like so many recording artists, she's just terribly, terribly misunderstood.
Buy it on DVD (http://shopping.msn.com/results/shp/?text=Jem%20dvd)
"Goof Troop (http://tv.msn.com/tv/series/goof-troop)"
For a solid decade, the Disney afternoon was a staple of the American childhood: "DuckTales (http://tv.msn.com/tv/series/ducktales)," "TaleSpin (http://tv.msn.com/tv/series/talespin)" and "Darkwing Duck (http://tv.msn.com/tv/series/darkwing-duck)" provided after-school adventure, clever one-liners and sly references to the Disney shorts of the 1940s. And then in hobbled "Goof Troop," the story of a single dad, his boring son, his son's boring best friend and the psychopathic neighbor next door. Unlike the slapstick fun of the old Goofy, the modern-day Goofy was pitifully stupid, dangerously incapable of rearing a child. His high school "friend" Pete was an overweight chauvinist who took advantage of Goofy at every turn and rarely faced consequences. The suburban plots were stultifying (Goofy decides to become a ninja, or Pete tries a recycling racket), but even worse was the watery animation. Sadly, "Goof Troop" wasn't a simple goof-up, it spelled the beginning of the end, as the Disney afternoon dissolved into the quagmire of "Quack Pack (http://tv.msn.com/tv/series/quack-pack)" and "Mighty Ducks (http://tv.msn.com/tv/series/mighty-ducks)" and finally vanished from the networks.
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"Captain Planet (http://tv.msn.com/tv/series/captain-planet-and-the-planeteers)"
Yes, we should ponder global warming, and truly, we must save the belugas. But was Captain Planet really the man for the job? In the history of kids' TV, no series has ever been more politically correct: Five child-heroes represent five major ethnicities, and they spend their days selflessly protecting the environment. And who is responsible for pollution? Is it petroleum companies? Whaling ships? Corrupt waste-disposal programs? Of course not! Only super-villains cause pollution! And thanks to Captain Planet's limitless powers (flight, telepathy, super-strength), nobody really fears Duke Nukem and his cronies. Leave it to a sky-blue muscleman with green hair to save the world -- and teach kids, as an afterthought, to stop littering. Unfortunately, this title has not been released on DVD.
ZariusTwo
07-07-2007, 09:12 AM
Why were the Autobots good and Decepticons evil? Errr...cival war perhaps? Let's ask why was Hitler evil and the allies good? Christ people, you're losing your heads in the first review.
Bay "transforfmed" TF alright, he turned it into a big sprawling Jackass humoured commercial for everything but the sophisitication you obviously missed out on regarding the best of G1.
Captain Planet was the farthest thing from PC, it was an extremist liberal show and didnt hold any punches, it told eight year olds to have less babies, and coverd subjects like AIDS. One has to only look at "If its Doomsday, it must be Belfast" to know how completly off-the-ball they were in matters beyond the states. PC my ass.
If youre going to bash older shows, watch them first.
Sewer Bull
07-07-2007, 09:56 AM
I'm surprised no racing cartoons have made it to the list. The shows where a protagonist drives a technologically advanced car for the 50-80% of an episode, usually racing with the other guys. Something like "Wacky Races" (which I actually liked) but done in the 80s/90s and looking dead serious. They've always bored me to death.
And "The 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo" is a very good pick.
Splinter's Iroonna
07-07-2007, 10:04 AM
Shoot. NOW I have that damn theme riff from "JEM" playing in my head!
*runs around room screaming*
Anarky
07-07-2007, 10:12 AM
I'm surprised no racing cartoons have made it to the list. The shows where a protagonist drives a technologically advanced car for the 50-80% of an episode, usually racing with the other guys. Something like "Wacky Races" (which I actually liked) but done in the 80s/90s and looking dead serious. They've always bored me to death.
MIIIIICHEL VAILLAAAAHAAANT!!! That show got a movie about two years ago, by the way. I hated it too, but I couldn't stop watching it.
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But you know what's worse than every cheesy 80s cartoon? Children in said cartoons. I shudder at the thought.
But you know what's worse than every cheesy 80s cartoon? Children in said cartoons. I shudder at the thought.
You know, that is soooo true...
Mr. Snackpants
07-07-2007, 03:02 PM
Are these the "worst cartoons kids of the 80s and 90s liked"? Because almost every new cartoon on Nick, Cartoon Network, Fox, ect. are worse than all the ones on that list.
Dinny
07-07-2007, 03:19 PM
The article says "Here are some of our favourite shockers, cartoons that seemed so much better when we were young", so unless the article was written by an 8-year-old looking back on how "Fairly Odd Parents" seemed so fresh and new when he was 5, all of the cartoons are going to be of the 80s and 90s.
Mr. Snackpants
07-07-2007, 05:26 PM
The article says "Here are some of our favourite shockers, cartoons that seemed so much better when we were young", so unless the article was written by an 8-year-old looking back on how "Fairly Odd Parents" seemed so fresh and new when he was 5, all of the cartoons are going to be of the 80s and 90s.
Oh my bad, I didn't feel like reading the whole thing. I saw the title "Worst cartoons ever"...a ****** title that doesn't actually explain what their list is.
Drtooth
07-07-2007, 07:18 PM
This list is moronic and pointless.
Firstly, lumping PAC-Man with the Super Mario cartoons is rediculous. Granted... Mario ISN'T Looney Tunes or John Hubley shorts... but what is? They were delightful fun, with a hint of Camp to them, and I still say DIC's version of King Koopa looks a crapload better than Nintendo's own version. Of course a moron "gamer" would think a show like GTA is interresting. hey pal... check out the horrid kiddyfied Mortal Kombat show.
Secondly, saying Goof Troop was the worst thing Disney produced? Excuse me? While definately the shark jumper of Disney animation, it was still the last thing of decent quality they produced until the Timon and Pumbaa show.
And they totally just crapped together a 80-90's list. There were horrible cartoons BEFORE the 80's... look at Hanna Barbera's output in the 70's. I love Hong Kong Phooey, but the others were a total embarassment.
Here are some terrible cartoons before you poser youngsters' time...
Bucky and pepito. I've never seen this, but in cartoon circles, this is reguarded as the worst cartoon of all time. Racist and poorly written are some of its attributes.
Sydney the Elephant. Terrytoon's WORST cartoon by far... even worse than the Heckle and Jeckle cartoons of the 1970's by filmation. A boring moronic elephant acting like a child and screwing up whenever he could. I watched one on Youtube last night, and I was MORTIFIED. The Tiny Toons saturization of this character is apt. His Oscar nomination was undeserved, and it's a great thing he lost to Knighty Knight Bugs.
Wacky and Packy. Filmation's deservedly forgotten caveman and wooly mammoth duo, going on routine forgettable misadventures in the future... and they based another caveman off of Jackie Gleason... yeah... that's originality.
Speaking of Filmation- Filmation's Tom and Jerry... whe you have a cartoon that relies on action, get an animation company that can ANIMATE action sequences.
And there are 2 cartoons from this era I wanna add, and Warner Brothers crapped both of them out...
Coconut Fred's Fruit Salad Island.... Nick... baby... why didn't you file an injection to prevent this blatant copywrite infringement from airing?
Loonatics Unleashed- you know what's cool? Get a bunch of overpaid out of touch 50 year olds and have them rape the Looney Tunes to what their idea of "anime" is like (I.e. the five seconds of DBZ you saw at your nephew's house).
ZariusTwo
07-07-2007, 07:22 PM
What is with the hatred for Goof Troop? The character of Goofy was NOTHING before he got a son and a backstory but some gormless fall guy stooge made famous by those parodies of 1950s theatrical infomercials.
The most abysmal Disney cartoons began with Timon and Pubma, as Tooth noted, but GT was'nt a shark-jumper by any means
Coconut Fred's Fruit Salad Island
Huh? O_o Did you just make that up?
Drtooth
07-07-2007, 07:39 PM
Huh? O_o Did you just make that up?
No... unfortunately Warners thought that it would be great if they made an EXACT copy of Spongebob because they wanted Spongebob's audience. Fortunately WB canned it 2/3s into the season.
And to specify... I meant they made crummy shows after Goof Troop.. Bonkers had it's moments... but Mighty Ducks? At least it was more entertaining than the film... But I think Timon and Pumbaa was one of the best ones they made in that time period... just before they made Disney's 1 Saturday morning and stuff like Recess..
DrSpengler
07-07-2007, 08:39 PM
I wouldn't say Goof Troop was a "jump the shark" moment for Disney television animation, but everything after it would definately qualify, especially that pathetic wannabe, Quack Pack.
Goof Troop wasn't my favorite but it did have some strong points. It took Max and PJ, two relatively obscure characters from the old Goofy cartoons and Disney comics (they had different names and personalities way back then) and turned them into "classic" Disney characters that should remain as timeless as their fathers. Goof Troop also gave us Jim Cummings as Pegleg Pete, which so far as I'm concerned is the DEFINITIVE version of Pete. Cummings' voice for him is just fantastic.
Goof Troop really didn't strike a major chord with me until A Goofy Movie where they were allowed deeper and more complex storytelling. I definately prefer Max as a teenager over an elementary school "Bart Simpson" wannabe. Jason Marsden also did a great job picking up Max and really began to stand out as one of my my favorite voice actors with that role.
As for Timon & Pumbaa the Series...that's one I'm afraid I never really liked at all. Timon and Pumbaa were best as back-up characters, in my eyes, and just couldn't hold a story on their own (Lion King 1 1/2 being the weakest of the 3 Lion King films for that very reason). The best episodes of the series were the ones which featured other characters from the movie, like the Hyenas, Rafiki and, oh so rarely, Simba (with Cam Clarke doing a surprisingly good Matthew Broderick impression).
The majority of the list I think is way-off, but these sorts of "Top Ten" lists are a matter of the personal opinion so I've tempered myself to take them with a grain of salt.
Drtooth
07-07-2007, 09:28 PM
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Goof Troop really didn't strike a major chord with me until A Goofy Movie where they were allowed deeper and more complex storytelling. I definately prefer Max as a teenager over an elementary school "Bart Simpson" wannabe. Jason Marsden also did a great job picking up Max and really began to stand out as one of my my favorite voice actors with that role..
Funny you should say Bart Simpson....
In the first episode (that is the premire 2 part fused together pilot) there is a scene in which Goofy opens a medicine cabenet, and you can see a small Bart Simpson head fall out of it. Not kidding (I had this on tape, and I damn near broke it finding that out in Freeze frame.
kerfootw
07-08-2007, 02:26 AM
This thing is a f&#@ing joke! Where's "The Buzz on Maggie", "Spongebob", "My Gym Partner's a Monkey", all that REAL crap?!
Pokemon? Goof Troop? Captain Planet? What a joke!
As DrSpengler said, it's all 'matter of opinion'.
As I like a large amount of the shows noted (both in the 'MSN Top 10' thing, and the posts here); that others don't.
Anarky
07-08-2007, 07:26 AM
This thing is a f&#@ing joke! Where's "The Buzz on Maggie", "Spongebob", "My Gym Partner's a Monkey", all that REAL crap?!
Pokemon? Goof Troop? Captain Planet? What a joke!
Oh, come on, Spongebob is an excellent show. Where else do you get to see someone living under a rock or in a pineapple under water, making burgers for a living? In terms of creativity and new, funny ideas, Spongebob is definitely one of the best things that have happened to cartoons lately.
Sure, it appears to be amazingly silly at first, but I've found that the show appeals to grownups just as much as it appeals to small kids. While kids enjoy things like Patrick getting hit on the head repeatedly, I can laugh at Mermaidman and Barnacle Boy or the "AAAAAH! MY LEG!!!" that you hear at least once every episode.
ZariusTwo
07-08-2007, 12:15 PM
In terms of creativity and new, funny ideas, Spongebob is definitely one of the best things that have happened to cartoons lately.
Rocko's Modern Life was ten years ago Anark.
VaughnMichael
07-08-2007, 01:11 PM
Rocko's Modern Life was ten years ago Anark.
You know that show was only just ok to me much better than it's modern day wannabe though which is camp lazlo.
I never much cared for Rocko because it was made to replace Ren & Stimpy at the time it's shows creator John K. was heavily being screwed by Nick.
But in retrospect of the show I can it's a pretty funny show I wouldn't say the best to come in years though.
Oh and yeah that list above is moronic.
Goof Troop was a great show.
You know what show dissapoints me looking back on it that would have to be Thundercats I loved that show sooooo much as a child had every action figure and everything. I still think the characters are cool as well as still seeing the animation as beautiful. But the show it's self now being an adult just comes off to me as very boring or moronic at times. But I guess allot of those shows where at the time.
Drtooth
07-08-2007, 04:41 PM
Rocko's Modern Life was ten years ago Anark.
And Tex Avery cartoons were 50 years ago,l if you wanna get technical...
Scandia
07-08-2007, 04:48 PM
I will have to disagree with that list. Why did they not mention truly stupid stuff like "Road Runner" (EVERYONE I have polled want Wile E. Coyote to FINALLY catch the Road Runner) and "Mister Magoo" (although the US history special is actually good) and some of the really deformed stuff they have these days (no naming names but a certain Nicktoon that anthropomorphizes the simplest animal out there comes to mind).
I have been obsessed with Captain Planet. Transformers and Jem are great. Silverhawks is good although not as much as Thundercats. Pokemon was fine at the beginning but I lost interest in it- although I still refuse to consider it bad in any way. The others I am not super familiar with but still seem decent.
Anarky
07-08-2007, 05:05 PM
You lads appear to miss the word "lately" in my statement. You know, as in "of late" not "ten or fifty years ago." I think the cartoon world needs something ridiculously crazy like Spongebob or Ren and Stimpy or Tex Avery or whatever whackjob cartoon you can think of. They're needed to show people that crazy can work. See Spongebob, huge success among all ages. As was Ren and Stimpy and Tex Avery still is awesome today. They don't need to be amazingly original or full of new ideas, it's enough for them if they're batsh*t nuts and stir up things a bit.
ZariusTwo
07-08-2007, 06:33 PM
it's enough for them if they're batsh*t nuts and stir up things a bit.
You mean this? (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CV9h2kPkYo8)
Only...you know..being original?
VaughnMichael
07-08-2007, 06:46 PM
You mean this? (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CV9h2kPkYo8)
Only...you know..being original?
wow it's kinda like you know a show about nothing...but a cartoon!:lol:
Man, those are some good picks. I'm really nodding my head with "Pokemon" and "13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo". They are really...well...bad, to say the least. 13 Ghosts kind of raped Scooby for me... *shudders*
MrOldSchool
07-08-2007, 09:42 PM
Oh boy! I've got a reason to hate NBC! Many of those shows they listed are awesome! The only bad one I can think of on that list is Captain Planet.
ZariusTwo
07-08-2007, 09:43 PM
Scrappy did all tea-bagging before 13 Ghosts did.
Pokemon ended with the Orange Islands, the one time the show's writers allowed it to stand on it's own without depending on the games.
Drtooth
07-09-2007, 03:25 PM
I just think these guys can compile a list of really horrible cartoons... Much as I hate Pokemon, and would put that on a list for Spite, It doesn't even get to my top ten. And Jem would be more bearable if they were... uh... bare. (Just kidding.... or maybe not).
I still think they didn't scratch the surface putting only 1 Hanna barbera cartoon in there. Now I love ol' HB with a passion... make no mistake, but they really made a lot of crappy shows in the 70's. Amazing Chan and the Chan Clan? How come that isn't on it? I used to REALLY hate that show back when they reran it in the 80's.
And They could have mentioned the pathetic attempts to make current sitcoms in that era into cartoon shows (I think DePatie Freeling did most of them) like the Barkleys (a horrendous ripoff of All in the Family). I will say the 70's was the WORST era for cartoons in some time. I love Fat Albert and Hong Kong Phooey, though.
But, you wanna know what cartoons I really can't stand? Lean in close...and listen carefully....'
those 1930's sound cartoons. Yeah... those. I know they were experimenting with sound and animation in that era... I give them credit... but there is only so many times a dancing Lollypop with a birdy flying around it can be entertaining. I really hate this color cartoon Jack Frost, about the little bear that wanders away from his home because he doesn't wanna hibernate? Dull crap.
And the Fliesher (sp?) Gabby Series. Does anyone give a flying crap about Gabby? The stuff they did with Popeye and Early Betty Boop cartoons was true art. I even like their Superman cartoons (not the War propaganda ones, though) and I HATE Superman. But Gabby sucks... dull crappy little character.
ToTheNines
07-09-2007, 05:08 PM
Did you read the Pokemon section? He said anime is known for smooth animation.... is he ****ing serious? I didn't like alot of the things this dude said, but holy ****.
VaughnMichael
07-09-2007, 10:24 PM
those 1930's sound cartoons. Yeah... those. I know they were experimenting with sound and animation in that era... I give them credit... but there is only so many times a dancing Lollypop with a birdy flying around it can be entertaining. I really hate this color cartoon Jack Frost, about the little bear that wanders away from his home because he doesn't wanna hibernate? Dull crap.
Yeah thats pretty much my opinion on computer animation since the start as well ooo look we can make this guy dance around and be all goofy it's a cartoon teehee! Take the garfield movies as a good example of this.:dead:
Sage Ninja
07-11-2007, 11:38 AM
holy crap how the hell can they have Jem on the list! Yeah it took place in the eighties but even so the storlines are still pretty engaging and charming that even if you are not an eighties child you can appriate. And heck even if the main character Jerrica was an eighties woman she still has characteristics that even a young girl of today can indentify with and look up to. This show even "went there" in areas that ehere pretty mature for a cartoon and pulled it of very well. A few Episodes dealt with run-aways and drugs and social problems and aimed at an older audiance and with these story lines instead of just narrowly aiming at the kidde girls in their audiance. Heack this show was even a freakin animated soap opra alot of the time and had more intergerity than modern day whore-wanna-be girl cartoons like Bratz. This show actually attempted to have an on going story-line and and indepth characters that went beyond rock music and fashion.
I was just a baby when this first came out and I didn't get to actually watch and appriciate this show until it was shown on the USA Cartoon express block (in the 90's) years later after the show was cancelled. And really enjoyed it alot! So I don't think its fair to say that this show is so dated that kids today couldn't enjoy it since it had such a heavy eighties feel.
Drtooth
07-11-2007, 04:05 PM
"Mister Magoo" (although the US history special is actually good) .
You know what are the WORST Mr. Magoos? The 1970's ones where he has that obnoxious dog McBarker... the episodes are ALL about him. It's the Annoying dog show with special guest host mr. Magoo for cryin out loud.
A few Episodes dealt with run-aways and drugs and social problems and aimed at an older audiance and with these story lines instead of just narrowly aiming at the kidde girls in their audiance. Heack this show was even a freakin animated soap opra alot of the time and had more intergerity than modern day whore-wanna-be girl cartoons like Bratz. This show actually attempted to have an on going story-line and and indepth characters that went beyond rock music and fashion.
Well, this list is as creditble as that stupid AFI list./.. it had some credibility untill they shoved "Titanic" into the list... are you serious?
Holy crap. How the hell can they have Jem on the list? ... Heck, this show was even a freakin' animated soap-opera alot of the time and had more intergrity than modern day whore-wanna-be girl cartoons like Bratz.
Actually, the underlined quote is what I couldn't stand about the show. I can only take so much focus on drama... But, I wouldn't dare deny that it had more integrity than alot of today's 'toons.
But, just for the record, Bratz may look like aspiring streetwalkers, but they have morals. It took my niece's appreciation for the franchise to prove that to me (by forcing me to watch it). Worshipping divas seems to be the really destructive 'young girl' influence.
majesty329
07-15-2007, 03:11 PM
This guy did not do his research there are way worse cartoons then the ones he named and a lot of those shows shouldn't even be on that list and I would say that there were worse Disney cartoons then Goof Troop.
Deathknight
07-16-2007, 12:49 AM
Yeah, the guy who wrote this list has obviously not seen a lot of cartoons that have been on. Anyone remember The Brothers Flub on Nickelodeon? That show was sooooo bad, much worse than anything this guy mentioned.
Barkworm
07-16-2007, 02:20 AM
I guess he focused on popular shows to have a greater effect on people. Just like the Raspberry awards.
RAM BAM
07-18-2007, 09:31 PM
Canadian dromies probably will remember a couple of doozies
that were shown over and over:
Hercules - That irritating one with Newton, Toot and Daedlus (I don't
know how to spell his name). I think this one was done in
Toronto, but I'm not totally sure. Global TV showed this one
early in the morning.
Rocket Robin Hood - Produced by Krantz Films in Toronto.
SassyGal
07-19-2007, 01:21 AM
Canadian dromies probably will remember a couple of doozies
that were shown over and over:
Hercules - That irritating one with Newton, Toot and Daedlus (I don't
know how to spell his name). I think this one was done in
Toronto, but I'm not totally sure. Global TV showed this one
early in the morning.
Rocket Robin Hood - Produced by Krantz Films in Toronto.
Oh lord! Why did you have to mention Hercules? That was just painful to watch...now the theme song will be stuck in my head...my fave line from the song was fire in his eyes, thunder in his thighs :lol: :lol: OMG, just thinking about is making me giggle!
Drtooth
07-19-2007, 09:28 AM
I would say that there were worse Disney cartoons then Goof Troop.
Indeed... while I think their greatest shows were Gummi Bears, Ducktales, Rescue Rangers, Talespin and Darkwing duck (Listen to Jim Cumming's voice work on those last two... you can tell he was having fun doing those shows), I really do like Goof Troop, and both movies (though i kinda feel bad... I get the impression that Peg left Pete and took Pistol with her and both pets died). While not as good as the first few series, certainly not the worst. As I said earlier, it was after that show they made some bad choices. They pretty much only made Bonkers to give the middle finger to Amblin entertainment for splitting up the Roger Rabbit license (though I did enjoy it) and it took them forever to make a really good one... (I don't count Gargoyls... I don't hate it, I just never got into it).
I think Schnookums and Meat would be one of their worst. I am a fan of Bill kopp (Eet the Cat co-creator), but this show was just Disney's shallow attempt at cloning Ren and Stimpy. While the Pith Possum segments had potential, I felt the rest of the show's quality was uneven.
Scandia
07-19-2007, 05:09 PM
I read an old thread today where they said that some Mirage and Archie comics seemed like a TMNT x Captain Planet crossover.
In an episode of Captain Planet, the TMNT (or at least some creatures resembling them) do show up! I loved that episode, although it's not my favorite.
I do not know why Captain Planet is bashed so much. If it got me obsessed, it is for a reason.
ToTheNines
07-19-2007, 07:45 PM
You wanna see real **** on disney? Go check it out now a days, they aren't cartoons but those terrible "cit-coms" are some of the worst displays of acting i've ever seen, and they aren't a bit funny. Disney has a few cartoons these days, but they need to go back to how it used to be.
Time Mistress
07-19-2007, 11:39 PM
Transformers and Jem are awesome! That list sucks!:x
Buslady
07-19-2007, 11:45 PM
what morons! they forgot Kwikie Koala. or whatever it was...it was retarded.
jem was retarded. popeye and sons are idiotic and pure crap. and i love 1930s popeye, the 80s killed it for me.
ZariusTwo
07-20-2007, 12:01 AM
popeye and sons are idiotic and pure crap. and i love 1930s popeye, the 80s killed it for me.
Popeye and Son, to some, the end of a legacy (besides the Mainframe film, Popeye is one dead franchise), but I actually liked it, something about his son being someone who hated Spinach appealed to me, even if morally it should'nt have.
Scandia
07-20-2007, 06:23 AM
Transformers and Jem are awesome. Popeye was never one of my favorites- even though I love spinach and it's my favorite vegetable.
Drtooth
07-20-2007, 08:26 AM
You wanna see real **** on disney? Go check it out now a days, they aren't cartoons but those terrible "cit-coms" are some of the worst displays of acting i've ever seen, and they aren't a bit funny. Disney has a few cartoons these days, but they need to go back to how it used to be.
Considering those aren't cartoons at all....
But for idiotic, juvvenile, pedestrian, fart joke filled, nightmarish Home Alone and Lizzie MCQuire knockoffs, they must be doing somthing right, cuz they're killing Cartoon Network and Nick in the ratings... to the point where Cartoon Network is considering making LIVE action programs.... (Please start another thread for that if anyone wants to comment).
what morons! they forgot Kwikie Koala. or whatever it was...it was retarded.
jem was retarded. popeye and sons are idiotic and pure crap. and i love 1930s popeye, the 80s killed it for me.
I think I mentioned Quickie Kowala.... Yeah. It was created by the cartoon great, Tex Avery. But after he died before it was in production they probably screwed it around and made it worse.
Popeye and Sons.... I never saw it and don't intend to. I heard horrible things about a 1970s Popeye series where he was a caveman and stuff like that... a variety sketch cartoon series...
I liked a lot of the TV and Famous Studios Popeyes, but to me, the ONLY studio to do it justice was Fleichers.....
Popeye is one dead franchise
Though he won't fade from the public consciousness as long as that fried chicken chain still exists. I still think that it ought to serve spinach though.
EDIT: Maybe that's not such a big help since Popeye's Chicken & Biscuits only exists in 17 US states, Washington DC & one in British Columbia, Canada.
Drtooth
07-20-2007, 04:25 PM
Popeye dead? Well, that's cuz no one has anything worth a damn to do with him... All I really see are Chicken shacks on the highway which I will NEVER NEVER NEVER eat at again... Not going into it... since it came out pretty dang fast... and millions of Copywrite expired DVD's with poor quality film sources. I LOVE Popeye, but a few bobble heads aren't going to help much.
but on the bright side, they didn't turn him into a futuristic anime ripoff superhero with all the humor and charm removed.
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