Watchmen

[Raph's Girl]

The Watchmen have been cast!
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33449

Jackie Earle Haley is Walter Kovacs / Rorschach
Billy Crudup is Dr. Manhattan
Malin Akerman is Juspeczyk / The Silk Spectre
Matthew Goode is Adrian Veidt / Ozymandias
Patrick Wilson is Nite Owl
Jeffrey Dean Morgan (Denny Ducket on Grey's Anatomy) will play The Comedian

[Brodie]

I'm pleased. I love the choice for the Comedian, that guy is gold.

[Leonardo Leads]

The only casting there that I'm not too crazy about is Matthew Goode

but... New Casting News


Carla Gugino is Sally Jupiter in Watchmen
Source: The Hollywood Reporter
August 8, 2007


Carla Gugino (Sin City) has joined the cast of Watchmen, the Warner Bros. adaptation of the DC Comics limited series.

She joins Patrick Wilson, Jackie Earle Haley, Matthew Goode, Billy Crudup, Jeffrey Dean Morgan and Malin Akerman in the Warner Bros. movie, which is set in an alternate America that has passed a law banning costumed crime fighters. When one is murdered, the remaining members set out to solve the mystery.

Gugino will play Sally Jupiter, a burlesque dancer-turned-costumed heroine and sex symbol the Silk Spectre who is part of the Minutemen, a group of heroes who preceded the Watchmen. She also is the mother of the new Silk Spectre (Akerman).

Gugino is expected to portray Jupiter in varying eras, playing different ages throughout the movie.

Link: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i0c6628f1d17a9ce2cb4ab3d241d98a79

[raphael_is_cool]

'Tom Cruise, Keanu Reeves and Jude Law were interested in the Snyder incarnation, though they balked when it became clear that the studio was holding the line on the budget.'

They loved it so much that they couldn't afford to take a pay cut? Jude Law has a freakin' Rorshach tattoo for crying out loud.

I haven't heard of nearly all these people but the source material is rich, so I expect good things.

[Leonardo Leads]

'Tom Cruise, Keanu Reeves and Jude Law were interested in the Snyder incarnation, though they balked when it became clear that the studio was holding the line on the budget.'

They loved it so much that they couldn't afford to take a pay cut? Jude Law has a freakin' Rorshach tattoo for crying out loud.

I haven't heard of nearly all these people but the source material is rich, so I expect good things.
Shame too Jude Law would have made the perfect Ozy

[Raph's Girl]

The first Video blog for The Watchmen is up! There will be a new blog every month on the 6th from now on:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36301

[Spitfire]

I just picked up the trade for this because I've heard good things about it. Alan Moore is always pissed when a movie comes out based off his novels because none made so far have had anything to do with his source material. Since I never read any of his novels before this will be the first time and I can compare, something I couldn't do on V For Vendetta*Which I thought was really good* and From Hell*Which I also thought was great*. League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen I did not like at all.

I'm about a quarter of the way through it, Mr.Manhattan has just gone to Mars to think about what he has done. It's getting really deep. I don't know how their going to handle it in the movie.

[AquaParade]

Ya, I'm very curious to how this movie will turn out as well. There is SO much you would have to pack into the movie to make it turn out right...this book wont be an easy translation unless they just do a step by step story and line of events...which would be lame, but Zach Snyder is a fan, and the blog is makin it look great. I think this will be a great movie, but no way will it surpass the book, or even be on par with it.

[Spitfire]

In my opinion this book is better suited for an adult themed animated or live action HBO series. That way they can do each issue true to form. Honestly a lot of the story makes no sense without the excerpts from the different books at the end of every issue. That will be insanely hard to do in a film unless they plan on tons of narration. That might bore people.

They will either split the story up into more then one picture or take all the characters and re-write the entire thing making it less meaningful I'm sure*And how can't they, they'll have to leave out so much to make it fit into 2 hours*. It'll have things in common with the book but I'd bet dollars to dimes it won't be a true adaptation. There's just no way they can do that.

[AquaParade]

In my opinion this book is better suited for an adult themed animated or live action HBO series. That way they can do each issue true to form. Honestly a lot of the story makes no sense without the excerpts from the different books at the end of every issue. That will be insanely hard to do in a film unless they plan on tons of narration. That might bore people.

They will either split the story up into more then one picture or take all the characters and re-write the entire thing making it less meaningful I'm sure*And how can't they, they'll have to leave out so much to make it fit into 2 hours*. It'll have things in common with the book but I'd bet dollars to dimes it won't be a true adaptation. There's just no way they can do that.

You're definitely not alone in your opinion of a 12-part or so HBO miniseries, I've seen it argued before...and yea...no way it can be a full on adaption...there is just wayyyy too much going on in this book. Even so, I think we're in for a treat.

[Spitfire]

I've been following this director. "Dawn Of The Dead" was the first of his movies. It was decent, not great, not awesome, but it had it's moments. It was better then a lot of horror movies out at the time.

Then I saw "300", I felt it was devoid of all intelligence but it was supposed to be. It wasn't until I saw how the comic itself was that the movie made sense. He worked with what he had to work with so with that said I can say he made a decent film. Wasn't my cup of tea but I grew bored with muscle bond He-men battling armies awhile ago. The only difference in "300" was there were samurai and monsters.

With that said I say I trust this guy. He has good material and was rather faithful to Miller's "300".

[AquaParade]

Agreed. I also think Snyder will do a pretty good job...if you watch the blogs you can see that it looks exactly like the book in atmosphere, and considering how closely he followed 300, I'm pretty sure it will be pretty faithful...but really it's not his dedication to make it faithful that scares me...it's fitting so many mind bending thoughts and theories into one movie.

[Raph's Girl]

The Watchmen trailer is online!!

http://www.empireonline.com/video/watchmen/

By the gods.... I got goosebumps!! :o

Edit: Apperantly empireonline.com made a booboo and released it 12 hours early. *lmao* They have now taken it off the site...BUUUT...you can see it here:
http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/07/17/must-watch-zack-snyders-watchmen-trailer-absolutely-stunning/

and here
http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/watchmen/trailer

[ToTheNines]

Sweet Jesus, that was amazing.

[Mecha Cow]

Looks awesome. Nite Owl looks a bit too Batman-ish and I'm worried they might make it too obvious who the villain is, though that might just seem that way to me because I already know the ending.Aside from those minor gripes, amazing. Dr. Manhattan looked far more accurate than I could have imagined and I actually got goosebumps when Rorschach spoke.

[cqb101]

This trailer blew me away when I saw The Dark Knight last night. Zack Snyder looks to have totally nailed it. Easily my most anticipated movie of 09 now.

[Spitfire]

I don't know how the hell they plan to even begin to smash all the plot of this story into the movie, maybe there will be sequels? But it looks pretty damn accurate so far. I look forward to this big time.

[ToTheNines]

I don't know how the hell they plan to even begin to smash all the plot of this story into the movie, maybe there will be sequels? But it looks pretty damn accurate so far. I look forward to this big time.

Mabey it's long as sh*t.

[poiuytre]

Looking really forward to it. Wanna see this more badly than The Dark Knight, but I kinda agree with Cow's observation. I hope it's just the trailer.

[Raph's Girl]

The Watchmen trailer is now on Apple!
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/watchmen/

[cqb101]

I don't know how the hell they plan to even begin to smash all the plot of this story into the movie, maybe there will be sequels? But it looks pretty damn accurate so far. I look forward to this big time.

From what I've read, the full cut of the movie is 4+ hours long. What doesn't make it into the final cut will either be released as a "prequel" DVD before the movie comes out or as webisodes.

[ZariusTwo]

Finally, a DC movie that again uses the remix of "The End is the Beggining Is The End", about the only good thing attached to Batman and Robin

[Spitfire]

From what I've read, the full cut of the movie is 4+ hours long. What doesn't make it into the final cut will either be released as a "prequel" DVD before the movie comes out or as webisodes.

It'd make more sense to release it in two parts with-in the same year. That's cool that we will get it on the DVD most likely.

[Raph's Girl]

It'd make more sense to release it in two parts with-in the same year. That's cool that we will get it on the DVD most likely.

Well I know the pirate story is gonna be on DVD. The final cut I believe is 3 hours.

[KROW]

Zack Snyder looks to have totally nailed it. Easily my most anticipated movie of 09 now.

Good thing Snyder is a Watchmen fan. I can't wait to see this. After peeping the pictures that were released months ago, the trailer does it more justice as a well done comic book film.

From what I've read, the full cut of the movie is 4+ hours long. What doesn't make it into the final cut will either be released as a "prequel" DVD before the movie comes out or as webisodes.

Hopefully, both.

[Zog the Equalizer]

The trailer for this looks great. My only real complaint is that while he looks awesome, Night Owl looks too much like Batman. Also I'll have to get used to Rorschach's voice. When I read it I imagine him sounding like the DCAU Question.

[Raph's Girl]

When I read it I imagine him sounding like the DCAU Question.

Yeah... They should have cast Jeffery Combs. That woulda been super awesome...

[Raph's Girl]

Seeing this trailer in theatres was awesome beyond compare. Im definatly gonna see the movie....is it March yet? :P

[poiuytre]

BUMP
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808406490/trailer

New trailer. It looks all fine on a technical level, but I felt slightly detached from it. Dr Manhattan's and Rorschach's voices felt weird. The actor they've chosen for Manhattan doesn't feel right for the part at all. I always pictured him with a lower, deeper voice than this.

I realise this is nitpicking, it's the result of really high expectations. I just really want it to be perfect.

::edit::
Notice how they're calling themselves "the watchmen" now too. They never did that, did they? It sounds kinda cheesy. I don't like this trailer. :( Please be good.

[Mecha Cow]

I've been cautiously optimistic about this movie so far, but I can't help but admit this trailer is... awful. I know it might not be representative of the final product, but everything in there seems to capture the details of the comic on the most superficial level only. And the 'acting'... Christ. The girl in particular is terrible. So disappointing.

And I totally agree about the 'Watchmen' thing. It's so lame. They're not the Justice League, for crying out loud.

[Spitfire]

Basically Fox sues WB over "The Watchmen", WB says F u, Fox wins, WB = screwed.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3i2f608e22d68972d4c6a6b7e72b2048cf

WB is getting raped lately. Batman did them well but with this and Nolan not planning on doing Batman 3 they're a bit screwed.

Anyways I read they screened the first 15 minutes somewhere and people said it sucked. I'll hold out to formulate my own opinions but before "Grand Trino" I saw a short first look on it and I wasn't very impressed. Between them changing the ending and the fact the cast is all no names, who I personally don't feel fit their roles, my expectations are quite low. I also thought "300" was a disaster.

[ZariusTwo]

I'll follow Moore's usual advise about movies based on his own stuff...just read the original material, don't pull out money to see it acted out, even if it's "truthful to the material", you shouldnt be told how to read something. It's not original. They spend this much on adaptation and not charity? C'mon.

Deep down..does anyone rate 300 as more than just an old internet meme? No...the most well-known thing about this movie is that it has the awesome remix of "The End is The Beggining Is The End"

[The Stryker]

This whole situation doesn't affect the viewing audience at all besides a release date delay. Fox will end up making more money and WB will end up making less, It doesn't affect us in the slightest.

[Ninjinister]

Maybe if I watch the movie and then read the graphic novel, I will appreciate the novel more? I don't know....

[Mr. Snackpants]

Maybe if I watch the movie and then read the graphic novel, I will appreciate the novel more? I don't know....

No you should read the novel first. Watching a ****** movie about it(allegedly) first will ruin the experience.

[Ninjinister]

No you should read the novel first. Watching a ****** movie about it(allegedly) first will ruin the experience.

I don't know, the only movie that I liked more than the book when watching the movie before reading the book was The Princess Bride.

[Spitfire]

I liked "From Hell" and "V For Vendetta" though I heard he didn't. I know V is far from the source material, which I think would be preferred since they weren't screwing up the real story. I could see why he'd be mad at any of his books getting turned movie since it's impossible to jam pack all the story into one film. Course leave it to someone to try with "Watchmen".

None of this affects views of the film no but it could affect the future of what's being made by WB and they have some franchises under their belt.

[raphael_is_cool]

I've already written this off. You can't top the graphic novel. It also has a bad director, cast and writer.

[Ninjinister]

Didn't David Hayter write it, or did they scrap his script?

[Brodie]

I liked "From Hell" and "V For Vendetta" though I heard he didn't. I know V is far from the source material, which I think would be preferred since they weren't screwing up the real story. I could see why he'd be mad at any of his books getting turned movie since it's impossible to jam pack all the story into one film. Course leave it to someone to try with "Watchmen".

None of this affects views of the film no but it could affect the future of what's being made by WB and they have some franchises under their belt.

Your two posts are kind of contradictory... You think it sucks theyre changing parts of the ending, but you like that they changed V for Vendetta?

If changing a bunch of things about V didn't change the story, the ending of Watchmen won't change the real message that was trying to get put across.

And on a sidenote, **** Moore. He's one of the biggest pretentious assholes ever. The ****er writes comic books, he isn't god. He's a dirty old man who thinks his **** doesn't stink. Seriously, read some interviews with the guy, he's the biggest prick around.

Other people screened the entire film, people who had been huge fans of the graphic novel, and stated it was superb. People like Brian K. Vaughn, Kevin Smith, etc..

If anything, we all know it couldn't be worse than the Spirit.

[Spitfire]

Your two posts are kind of contradictory... You think it sucks theyre changing parts of the ending, but you like that they changed V for Vendetta?

If changing a bunch of things about V didn't change the story, the ending of Watchmen won't change the real message that was trying to get put across.
Your totally right, the difference though is I never read the novels for V or From Hell I just knew about them and read that he hated the films. I've actually read Watchmen which was probably a bad idea because now I have expectations.

Other people screened the entire film, people who had been huge fans of the graphic novel, and stated it was superb. People like Brian K. Vaughn, Kevin Smith, etc..
Well that gives me some hope. The first 15 minutes is a tad hard ot base an opinion off of. I'm sure some were scornful they couldn't see more.

[IamtheKnight]

Hold up! Nolan isn't directing or making Batman 3?!

[ThirdMarioBro]

I would bet money on Warner getting another director and another Batman when they need the cash. They did it before, they'll do it again. (Un)Fortunately, if such a thing happens, I'm old enough to know better. Studio-driven sequels destroy franchises, and Batman's already been raped twice. No Nolan, no watch.

And for Watchmen, bleh. I was never going to see it anyway.

[Brodie]

That's probably because you're not smart enough to understand it. Too much weight , eh?

[Ninjinister]

I'm not saying this is one of those cases, but a lot of my favorite shows and/or movies get bad reviews and ratings from the critics and public because the plot actually takes some brain power to comprehend. It pisses me off to no end, that I keep hearing terrible things about cleverly written media, or said media is canceled, because the world at large refuses to use their gray matter when watching something.

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[Mr._Mutant_Man]

And on a sidenote, **** Moore. He's one of the biggest pretentious assholes ever. The ****er writes comic books, he isn't god. He's a dirty old man who thinks his **** doesn't stink. Seriously, read some interviews with the guy, he's the biggest prick around.


He's been right so far about movies based on his comics sucking though.

He's far from the biggest jerk in comics, too. Alan Moore is crazy, but there are bigger jerks out there.

[ZariusTwo]

Didn't David Hayter write it, or did they scrap his script?

Hayter did contribute to the script, but it's been butchered and stuck together with elements of later scripts.

A shame too, the guy's a pretty solid ghost-writer for Hollywood.

[Voltron]

This is like Wrestlemania Nerdogeddon.

[Barkworm]

A shame too, the guy's a pretty solid ghost-writer for Hollywood.
Ouch, that one was really bad.

[ThirdMarioBro]

That's probably because you're not smart enough to understand it. Too much weight , eh?

No, actually because I haven't read the graphic novel yet and I don't want to ruin it, but I don't have the time to read it at the moment.

[Spitfire]

I'm not saying this is one of those cases, but a lot of my favorite shows and/or movies get bad reviews and ratings from the critics and public because the plot actually takes some brain power to comprehend. It pisses me off to no end, that I keep hearing terrible things about cleverly written media, or said media is canceled, because the world at large refuses to use their gray matter when watching something.

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You've never seen a single independent film in your entire life have you? You want to see intelligence being mocked look at the box office totals every weekend. Normally, not always of course, the most intellectually devoid movie takes the weekend and the amazing films are all shoved into limited release where only a few theaters show them. "The Wrestler" is a great example of that. It got stellar reviews but I can't see it because only one theater is playing it and it's 100 miles away from me. "Slum Dog" is an amazing movie and it just hit wide but still no ones really going to see it.

Critics watch a lot of movies, a lot more then you and most people. It's their job to nit pick and point out what's wrong with something. I use RT to gauge what my expectations are before I go into a movie. Honestly it's never steered me wrong. More often then not when a movie has lower then a 70% on RT I end up not liking it. Sometimes I check it out before I go see it and sometimes I wait till after to see if I'm alone in thinking it wasn't very good.

Problem for awhile was everything was average. Yeah the movie wasn't that bad but it wasn't grabbing me either. There are thousands of films out there so wasting my time on one that's just "okay" when there's tons that are stellar seems like a waste. Lately though things have been bad and in the last few months nothing really good has come out that's major. In fact the last several good movies I've seen were limited releases.

I don't let critics tell me what's good and what's not. I let them guide me if I'm really unsure cause some I normally agree with. There are cases where stuff I like has gotten bad reviews, like the last few Dirty Harry movies, and cases where I like something but I can see why critics ripped it apart.

[Drtooth]

I would bet money on Warner getting another director and another Batman when they need the cash. They did it before, they'll do it again. (Un)Fortunately, if such a thing happens, I'm old enough to know better. Studio-driven sequels destroy franchises, and Batman's already been raped twice. No Nolan, no watch.

That's just freakin' peachy, idn't it? I can see it now... Jim Carrey or Will Ferel as the Joker... This thing's gonna be stunt casted to hell and back. I bet Nolan's going to be one of those swelled head directors that pretends to not want to do another sequal, letting it fall into incapable hands.

[Ninjinister]

You've never seen a single independent film in your entire life have you?

No, I haven't. I spend all my time watching mainstream rubbish and absolutely nothing else.

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/9628/sarcasmtx3mk1.jpg

These are a majority of what I'm referring to. I don't read every single review from around the world, but most of the independent film reviews that I've read, from both professionals and amateurs, are basically "This movie was boring, I couldn't follow the plot, oh, and I didn't like the camera angle in the first ten seconds of the second act" (that last one is usually exclusive to 'professionals').

Now, I don't watch a lot of independent films, unfortunately, but because they're not mainstream, they're a little tougher to get a hold of or catch in a theater. But the ones that I do watch are normally the mindteaser and mindscrews.

The only real problem I have with most independent films is the fact that they're often (thought not always), way too pretentious - they swagger with a self-awareness of being an indy film and they push that as their driving factor.

[IamtheKnight]

i dont care about watchmen

[ZariusTwo]

1. Why troll a thread if you don't care about the topic?

2. Your "news" was dated October 6th and isnt real info ya shmuck:roll:

[Drtooth]

Speaking of Batman, I can't wait to see how this will further put the prospects of the 60's show in jeopardy. Great maturity from 2 well managed companies.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

I would bet money on Warner getting another director and another Batman when they need the cash. They did it before, they'll do it again. (Un)Fortunately, if such a thing happens, I'm old enough to know better. Studio-driven sequels destroy franchises, and Batman's already been raped twice. No Nolan, no watch.

Yes, a sequel without Christopher Nolan is guaranteed to suck no matter what.:roll:

Y'know, the guy isn't the be all, end all of Batman. There were great Batman stories before Nolan (even on the screen, like Mask of the Phantasm). There is plenty of other talent that can make a good Batman movie. It's just a matter of finding people that will take the material seriously enough.

[Drtooth]

Y'know, the guy isn't the be all, end all of Batman. There were great Batman stories before Nolan (even on the screen, like Mask of the Phantasm). There is plenty of other talent that can make a good Batman movie. It's just a matter of finding people that will take the material seriously enough.

Considering what happened last time, we'll get someone imitating the style, but bringing something to the game which shouldn't have been brought in the first place. We'll wind up getting stunt casting and ridiculous plots like Batman Forever and (worse yet) Batman and Robin. I really hope WB can coax Nolan into doing one more, and then ending it there for it to be rebooted further allong the line.

I just don't want to see someone trying to be Nolan and failing miserably.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Considering what happened last time, we'll get someone imitating the style, but bringing something to the game which shouldn't have been brought in the first place. We'll wind up getting stunt casting and ridiculous plots like Batman Forever and (worse yet) Batman and Robin. I really hope WB can coax Nolan into doing one more, and then ending it there for it to be rebooted further allong the line.

I just don't want to see someone trying to be Nolan and failing miserably.

Well it is entirely possible that people will learn from their mistakes. WB did with the last two Batman movies. I agree that trying to imitate Nolan is dooming a future movie to failure. I'd like to see a dark, serious Batman in another director or writing team's style. I wouldn't mind seeing a creative team that would give Robin or Batgirl a serious chance.

Also, in defense of Batman Forever, Batman Returns also paved the way for ridiculous plots. The first Batman movie was relatively light on the Tim Burton wackiness, but things got really crazy with Batman Returns.

Batman and Robin. Well, there's no defending that one.

[Spitfire]

Yes, a sequel without Christopher Nolan is guaranteed to suck no matter what.:roll:

Y'know, the guy isn't the be all, end all of Batman. There were great Batman stories before Nolan (even on the screen, like Mask of the Phantasm). There is plenty of other talent that can make a good Batman movie. It's just a matter of finding people that will take the material seriously enough.

While I liked Mask of the Phantasm it was a box office disaster. It was also an animated movie so I hardly consider it the same boat as this new live action series.

Yeah there's tons of great Batman stories, in the comic, in the TV series, but we're talking movies. As far as movies goes, depending on what you like, a lot of people think Nolan's films are the best.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

While I liked Mask of the Phantasm it was a box office disaster. It was also an animated movie so I hardly consider it the same boat as this new live action series.

Yeah there's tons of great Batman stories, in the comic, in the TV series, but we're talking movies. As far as movies goes, depending on what you like, a lot of people think Nolan's films are the best.

I agree, Nolan's films are the best we've seen yet. However, before Nolan came along Burton's films were the best live action version of Batman. So the point I'm trying to make is that it would be closed minded to give up on Batman if Christopher Nolan doesn't come back.

[Raph's Girl]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090116/ap_en_bu/watchmen_movie_lawsuit_3

Fanboys rejoice! Rival studios say they have resolved their battle over the release of "Watchmen."

The release of the superhero flick had been in doubt for months as 20th Century Fox and Warner Bros. sparred in federal court over who had proper rights to the film. The studios say it will be released as scheduled on March 6.

Spokesmen for both companies released a statement Thursday night that the studios have resolved the dispute in a confidential agreement.

Settlement discussions ramped up after a judge decided last month that Warner Bros. had violated Fox's distribution interests by shooting the film.

Attorneys for both studios are scheduled to meet with U.S. District Judge Gary Allen Feess on Friday and discuss the agreement.

The statement said both studios "look forward with great anticipation" to the film's release.

[That Matt Guy]

I also saw Watchmen last night, and I for the most part liked it. I was really impressed with the actor that played Rorschach.

[cqb101]

I also saw Watchmen last night, and I for the most part liked it. I was really impressed with the actor that played Rorschach.

He was definitely the highlight.

[Raph's Girl]

Just got back from The Watchmen. Pretty good film. Rorschach was of course awesome. Jeffery Dean Morgan was totally perfect casting for The Comedian.

[Ryona]

I just watched The Watchmen too. It was alright.
My only real issue with it was the unnecessary softcore scenes. Like, it was just short away from visible penetration.
Porno in a superhero movie? Why? What's the point? As if people don't watch enough of that stuff on the Internet.
And mind you, I'm not refering to the nude scenes of blue-man. Just the sex scenes that made me feel like I was watching a bad porno in a sleezy theater.

[The Stryker]

Read the book. It's not a normal superhero story. It's barely a superhero story at all.

[raphael_is_cool]

'Well there was a time when you let me know
What's really going on below
But now you never show that to me do you
But remember when I moved in you
And the holy dove was moving too
And every breath we drew was hallelujah'

Watchmen was better than I expected. It just had some really weird soundtrack choices and some fluffed scenes.

[Brodie]

I just watched The Watchmen too. It was alright.
My only real issue with it was the unnecessary softcore scenes. Like, it was just short away from visible penetration.
Porno in a superhero movie? Why? What's the point? As if people don't watch enough of that stuff on the Internet.
And mind you, I'm not refering to the nude scenes of blue-man. Just the sex scenes that made me feel like I was watching a bad porno in a sleezy theater.

God you make my eyes bleed.

[Ryona]

Sorry I'm not a sex-starving comic geek. I just didn't need to see that in a superhero movie. That's all. Otherwise the movie was quite entertaining.

[Brodie]

Sorry I'm not a sex-starving comic geek. I just didn't need to see that in a superhero movie. That's all. Otherwise the movie was quite entertaining.
Its not that it isn't a kind of silly scene, it is. But the reason why I have an issue with what you're saying is that A) you make making blatantly stupid generalizations about people who like Watchmen (sex starved? Not everyone who reads comics can't get laid, sister. Especially with Watchmen, which is a book that has helped solidify graphic novels as legitimate literature. Clearly, you'd be surprised at the types of people who herald Watchmen as an amazing work of art and writing.) B)Watchmen (the film)serves as an almost exact panel-by-panel representation of the graphic novel. Hence, why its in there.

Its hardly a superhero movie, if anything its the deconstruction of a superhero. Like the book.

A silly scene, but the scene itself isn't the important part, its the fact that Snyder got probably the closest anyone ever will to translating Watchmen (regardless of changing ASPECTS of the ending).

[ZariusTwo]

Porno in a superhero movie? Why? What's the point?

Obviously not a Watchmen purist if you don't get why the porn is in there...

Oh, and despite what's in there....Watchmen isnt a superhero movie.

And "sex-starved geeks?". Most geeks DO get laid in real life. This is an assanine generalization.

Saw the movie through other means. I liked the teaser, and Zach is a capable director for other projects, but this isnt Watcmen, it's like listening to a cheap, cover track by a hapless band. My Chemical Romance were more faithful to The Sex Pistols in the soundtrack than this movie was to the graphic novel's spirit, point, and story. The ending should NOT have been changed...and what's worse is the movie took itself bloody seriously. Hammy acting, awful "Christopher Nolan"-esque influences. That incessantly annoying habit of slowing everything down.

I can already tell Rosarch will be the next Wolverine in absolutely no time...which is, again, incredibly disheartening. Who actually remembers all the quieter scenes with that character? The excellent subplot with the Psychiatrist? His return to the apartment and confronting the landlady? No, all they talk about is "That guy killed two alsations! That guy killed a midget in prison, he's badass"...ugh.

This was a video game cut scene extended to three hours. A cosplay fan-reading with a script so blatantly half-assed and written by Furturama's Melvar, that lacking gravitas and respect to the pace of the source material made the LOTR trilogy look much more honest.

Overrated beyond beleif. Read the graphic novel, it's a masterpeice, but once more, Alan Moore is proven right. I'd rather watch this

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[Mr. Snackpants]

Watchmen

Loved the novel, disappointed by the movie. It's worth checking out in IMAX though.

[Jester]

Saw Watchmen. I haven't read the graphic novel, but I am also watching the "moving GN" on DVD...the differences are fairly obvious...but I haven't gotten to the end of the DVD...it is over 5 hours.

[Spitfire]

Saw The Watchmen in Imax, I figured if I had to sit through it why not in Imax? I read about half of the graphic novel before seeing it and doing that netted some interesting results for me. Firstly I know the ending anyways because people had blew it for me a hundred times over before the movie even came out so that wasn't a big deal to me anyways.

During the first half of the film, up till the end of Manhattan on Mars and his origin, I was not enjoying myself much. All the scenes felt hallow and lifeless, the horrid acting shined through quite a bit more, and I noticed a bunch of missing content, some of which I found relevant to the story. The second half I liked more but it was because I was paying attention to the story and that distracted me from the things I was nit picking before. By the end I decided I liked Rorschach and Niteowl as far as acting goes. I think they were the only two half way decent actors in the whole film.

Other things that annoyed me was the over use of slow motion in virtually every action scene. It was completely unnecessary. Also the soundtrack felt out of place and awkward 90% of the time. I get it the songs are from that period and about the war but we don't need to use them in scenes they don't fit. Lastly the Nixon scenes were a joke. I couldn't help but just laugh every time he popped up on screen.

I'm a little more nit picky then most people are but I went with the group and the people who hadn't read the book liked it, but had questions about things they didn't explain, and the ones that read it were in my boat. Personally if you leave people with questions who didn't read the source material you didn't do a good job of picking the content to include into the film. If he supposedly filmed the whole thing there's some other scenes he could have included.

One last short note, that was the shortest credit sequence I've ever seen. It ended before I even got out the door.

[ZariusTwo]

Watchmen - I enjoyed it, It wasn't perfect but I felt it was entertaining and thats all I really need.

Watchmen wasnt meant to be a popcorn movie:roll:

[Ninjinister]

Watchmen wasnt meant to be a popcorn movie:roll:

What's the point of going to see a film if you can't be entertained by it?

[cqb101]

What's the point of going to see a film if you can't be entertained by it?

Oh, I dunno...the artistic merit? Film is a form of art. Not all art is entertaining.

[Ninjinister]

Oh, I dunno...the artistic merit? Film is a form of art. Not all art is entertaining.

The act of entertainment is holding one's attention of an agreeable or pleasing nature. If one was to voluntarily partake in an activity such as watching a film without this occurring, that would be masochism.

[gobo]

The act of entertainment is holding one's attention of an agreeable or pleasing nature. If one was to voluntarily partake in an activity such as watching a film without this occurring, that would be masochism.
True dat. If someone were to voluntarily watch a film for any reason, coerced or not, they are technically being entertained, whether it be by the social aspects or simply paying tribute to respectable works of art. Not all entertainment is mindless.

[Leo656]

Saw Watchmen with my fiancee and we both loved it, though I read the book more than she has. My biggest problem was that tons of subtext and backstory got chopped and that hurt it. I liked the new ending. Anyone having a problem with either the sex scenes or Dr. Manhattan is a bit immature. I figured people not reading the book wouldn't "get" some of it, though, so there ya go.

All the excessive slo-mo and stuff was Snyder's way of poking fun at superhero movie cliches the way the book toyed with comic book boundaries. It's also why Veidt's costume looked like one of Joel Schumacher's abortions.

The soundtrack was fine, it's a period piece and half of the stuff was referenced from the book itself.

I admit it's not an "easy" flick, you gotta do homework to enjoy it fully and I know that's not fashionable. But it's as faithful as any comic adaptation is ever gonna be, and I give 'em credit for that. Now, everyone who hasn't needs to get the book and see what you're missing.

[Hero]

Went and saw Watchmen yesterday. Really enjoyed it.

===HERO

[cqb101]

All the excessive slo-mo and stuff was Snyder's way of poking fun at superhero movie cliches the way the book toyed with comic book boundaries.

Then why did Snyder use it so much in 300 as well?

Can you name some of the superhero movies that use slow-mo in the fight scenes, because I honestly can't think of any.

The slow-mo was nothing more than Snyder injecting his style into the film. I found it distracting, out of place, and overly cheesy.

[Leogeddon]

Then why did Snyder use it so much in 300 as well?

Can you name some of the superhero movies that use slow-mo in the fight scenes, because I honestly can't think of any.

The slow-mo was nothing more than Snyder injecting his style into the film. I found it distracting, out of place, and overly cheesy.

Spider-man 3 and Transformers did it.

[Hannah]

Spider-man 3 and Transformers did it.
And both of those movies turned out terrible.

[The Stryker]

Watchmen wasnt meant to be a popcorn movie:roll:
Oh right, because actually enjoying a movie means I completely missed the point. How could I forget that?.

[Ra]

Saw Watchmen yesterday. Great adaptation of the comic, but as an overall movie... well, I was a bit confused towards the end. Still didn't stop it from entertaining me however.

Rorschach = <3

[cqb101]

Spider-man 3 and Transformers did it.

All of Michael Bay's films have slow-mo. It's what he does.

[Blade Raider]

Saw Watchmen tonight...One of the few things I liked about this movie was...
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(If ya don't get it, Garry Chalk, the voice of Optimus Primal, was one of Nixon's generals)

I had a gut feeling left over from 300 that I would not like this movie and I was right. I'm never watching a Zack Snyder movie again. The story is good and well written (same with 300), but the action was a little to gory and way to much sex and nudity for my tastes (though the flamethrower was hilarious). Also, the plot felt like it was going nowhere at times. The biggest reason I didn't like it was because I don't like movies that at the end all I can think is "I'm having nightmares tonight"

In addition, this movie ruins all these things for me:
owls
heroes with past
midgets
the song "Hallelujah"
butts
ink blots
super heroes
the color blue
my eyes

I'm mostly joking on that list, but goddamn, MY EYES!

Good news though, I'm perfectly okay with He-Man only wearing only a loincloth now.

[gobo]

Haven't seen Watchmen yet, but losing interest with every repeated post about it. It feels like LotR-craze all over again. -_- I can only hope people start turning their noses up at me for not wanting to see it...

[The Stryker]

Is penis really that big of a deal? I mean seriously, some people need to grow up already.

[Ra]

The penis... ah yes. "Limpy".

I was fine with it. At times you could hardly see Limpy because of Manhatten's glowing body (when he first materialises in front of his girlfriend for the first time, for example). The movie has it's suss moments and sex scenes and what-not, so seeing a limp glowing CGI dong doesn't really make that much of an impression on you once you come out of the cinema.

Basically, if you want to see it, you can stare at Limpy for a good hour or so. Otherwise sit back an enjoy the goddamn movie. In my opinion? Yes it was funny for the first time you see it, but other than that you tend to forget about it. Well, I did anyway.

[Blade Raider]

Is penis really that big of a deal? I mean seriously, some people need to grow up already.
No, it is. It's just excessive amouts on it. Plus, there's many scenes where just changing the angle a bit would have cropped his junk out.

Now, I'm pevert. I don't care who knows it (aside from my grandparents, of course), but I don't like nor want sex scenes in my movies or excessive nudity. Sex never add to the story and I'm usually sitting there waiting for the damn story to continue. Plus, it's usually the characters I don't want to see naked much less having sex. As for whatever the blue guy's name is, as I've already said, it's excessive. He's naked 90% of the time his in the movie. I don't mind scenes where he's naked, but enough is enough after so long.

Aside from all of that, I'm still left left wondering what the hell that tiger was, what's the main villian power, and what's up with the ink blot dude's mask.

[The Stryker]

Obviously you didn't realize that the sex scene and Manhattan being naked meant something to the character's arcs and actually pushed their stories along.

[Ninjinister]

I'm taking a guess that you, Blade, have not read the book yet.

And it sounds like the movie doesn't explain a lot that it should have, and that you have to read the graphic novel to know wtf is going on.

[The Stryker]

I think the movie was already crammed with stuff. The last thing it needed piled on top was a origin story for Bubastis.

[Ninjinister]

I think the movie was already crammed with stuff. The last thing it needed piled on top was a origin story for Bubastis.

I've not seen the film yet (planning to this weekend), but wouldn't it have been simpler to just cut Bubastis? It's not like she had a large part in the story, especially since it seems that they cut out Adrian's genetic tinkering.

[The Stryker]

Yeah but then the hardcore fans would've complained about it being cut.

[Ninjinister]

I always forget about the hardcores.

[The Stryker]

The movie was doomed from the beginning to be in one of those "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situations.

Hey, if the movie makes people want to read the book, good!

[Zog the Equalizer]

As a big fan of the comic the only part of the novel I was sad they left out was the murder of Hollis Mason. It really gave a sense of how bad things were making both of the opposing sides at the end seem debatable. My only other real complaint was Ozymandias looked and felt too much like a villain the entire time. He wasn't supposed to be that was the point, but in the movie they may as well have added a maniacal cackle at the end of every scene he was in

[cqb101]

Is penis really that big of a deal? I mean seriously, some people need to grow up already.

No, it's really not. People are just immature, I guess. (This isn't directed at anyone here, I've seen far too many "penis" complaints in general)

No, it is. It's just excessive amouts on it. Plus, there's many scenes where just changing the angle a bit would have cropped his junk out.

Now, I'm pevert. I don't care who knows it (aside from my grandparents, of course), but I don't like nor want sex scenes in my movies or excessive nudity. Sex never add to the story and I'm usually sitting there waiting for the damn story to continue. Plus, it's usually the characters I don't want to see naked much less having sex. As for whatever the blue guy's name is, as I've already said, it's excessive. He's naked 90% of the time his in the movie. I don't mind scenes where he's naked, but enough is enough after so long.

Aside from all of that, I'm still left left wondering what the hell that tiger was, what's the main villian power, and what's up with the ink blot dude's mask.

I have come to the conclusion that you really just didn't understand the film at all.

[Ninjinister]

My complaint about the penis thing is that the two girls in my office who saw it over the weekend wouldn't stop talking about it in great detail for like an hour >.<

[Cropsy]

Watchmen: Awesome adaptation of the best comic book ever! it's up there with "Dark Knight", "Superman", "Iron Man", "Spider-Man 2", "X2","Akira" and "Sin City" as one of the best comic movies ever.

[ToTheNines]

I haven't seen Watchmen but no one at school will shut the hell up about it, and no one at school will refer to the characters by their names (Blue guy, chameleon face dude, owlman, etc. etc.)

[gobo]

That's it. **** this movie. I'm not seeing it unless someone pays (buys the ticket or plays the DVD for) me.

[The Stryker]

That's it. **** this movie. I'm not seeing it unless someone pays (buys the ticket or plays the DVD for) me.

So just because people are talking and arguing over the movie, You don't want to see it?

Harvard must be busting your door down with those smarts.

[Ra]

My complaint about the penis thing is that the two girls in my office who saw it over the weekend wouldn't stop talking about it in great detail for like an hour >.<
What do you expect? They are girls. We like giant glowing blue dongs. :P

Anyways, thoughts on a Director's cut? I'm not sure if it's official or not, but I'm hearing whispers about a theatrical release of one in July...

[Sewer Bull]

Someone actually explains to me why Dr. Manhattan has to wander around naked in both comic series and the movie.

Yeah, I read the comic book graphic novel and I got that picture of a guy being so supernatural that all the basic human concerns seem to be so petty now, probably along with the concept of decency and prudery.

Not that I'm especially shocked by the view his pecker on the screen, but can't really understand what's so in-depth in it.

[Mecha Cow]

If you've read the comic, what's not to understand? The guy is literally a god. What would he need clothing for?

[Sewer Bull]

The guy is literally a god. What would he need clothing for?

As I recall different divine depictions, they were usually wearing something, at least fancy those togas.

And what kind of a god flees in tears to Mars, after being accused of giving people cancer? :|

[cqb101]

I always thought it just helped to show his disconnection from humanity.

[Ra]

I thought so as well.

The guy is practically an alien when the movie begins. Seeing him in the full monty is meant to help bring that point across.

[ZariusTwo]

Watchmen: Awesome adaptation of the best comic book ever! it's up there with "Dark Knight", "Superman", "Iron Man", "Spider-Man 2", "X2","Akira" and "Sin City" as one of the best comic movies ever.

:lol:

Ah, I love it when "fans" can't distingush between the intergrity of the source material and the artwork.

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[Jester]

*wonders what a Terry Gilliam Watchmen would look like.*

[KROW]

Saw it last night and loved it. I will admit that Snyder's slo-mo scenes were excessive, but overall they didn't bother me. I also didn't mind the blue penis or the fixed ending (rather found it interesting how it was done). Could've done without Dreiberg's butt-pumping and pelvic thrusting, but meh, whatever.

I also found the acting to be fine in its own way. It had some cheesy parts, sure, but this movie wasn't made to win Oscars. The actors played their parts well, with obvious standouts by Jackie Earle Haley and Jeffrey Dean Morgan. And who else loved Matt Frewer as Moloch?

Overall I thought it was great. Snyder and crew translated it well from book-to-screen. Out of all the films based on Moore's work, this one might be the best of the bunch.

[Warhorse]

What can I say. My boyfriend and I went to the IMAX last night to see it. I thought it sucked. I never read the comic, nor will I ever, but my boyfriend has, and he said the movie never caught any of the characters he imagined in his head, and he thought the movie was slow at times.

Oh, the blue dude, don't know why, but he kept on reminding me of Sonny on IRobot. In fact, I kept on thinking they ripped alot of the monotone voice from Sonny.

[The Stryker]

Yes, because monotone speaking was invented in the movie I-Robot.

[Brodie]

I thought it sucked. I never read the comic, nor will I ever.
Oh, the blue dude, don't know why, but he kept on reminding me of Sonny on IRobot. In fact, I kept on thinking they ripped alot of the monotone voice from Sonny.

Thats the stupidest **** I've ever heard. And I've been on this forum for a while.

[Aelia]

I thought it was a pretty good movie. Not exactly the adaptation of the graphic novel that I wanted, but certainly much better than I expected it to be.

I suppose my favorite part was the opening credits, just for how well they were done.

As far as the acting goes...well, it could've been a little better. However, Jackie Earle Haley and Jeffrey Dean Morgan were fantastic in their respective roles.

Another thing that amused me was counting how many people walked out of the theater during the movie. Pfft, lightweights.

[Candy Kappa]

Haven't seen the movie yet, thought of draggin my girlfriend with me, but she hates comic book super heroes (she saw batman and robin when she was a kid)

[Warhorse]

Thats the stupidest **** I've ever heard. And I've been on this forum for a while.

Doubt it. It could have been good, but it missed all the right things for me. The few things that kept me from dragging my boyfriend out of the theater to go see Last House on the Left was the Rorschach story line, and Robert Downey Junior is like becoming the next Johnny Depp, that any character he portray is done masterfully and intriguing!

And it figures, the best characters end up getting killed!

[The Stryker]

Robert Downey Jr. wasn't in Watchmen.

[Warhorse]

My bad. People all around me were saying that the comedian was RDJ, so I know it wasn't just me!

[The Stryker]

Yeah it seems like you drift in and out.

[Warhorse]

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

[Mr. Snackpants]

Doubt it. It could have been good, but it missed all the right things for me. The few things that kept me from dragging my boyfriend out of the theater to go see Last House on the Left was the Rorschach story line, and Robert Downey Junior is like becoming the next Johnny Depp, that any character he portray is done masterfully and intriguing!

And it figures, the best characters end up getting killed!

You should probably stop posting in this thread.

[Brodie]

Theres so much hate thats seething inside of me right now.

[Warhorse]

Why should I stop posting in here, and why is someone so full of hate?

What was your favorite part of the movie? I think I liked the whole prison scenes!

When Rorschach handled that dude in the cafeteria, one of the best parts!

[Cure]

Why should I stop posting in here, and why is someone so full of hate?

Answer to both of your questions: because you clearly have no clue what you're talking about.

[Brodie]

When Rorschach handled that dude in the cafeteria, one of the best parts!

This was kind of stupid that people enjoyed that part so much. When he "handles" some black guy, people cheered. But not when he kills a child molester.

[Ra]

I cheered when he killed the child molester.

Then people stared at me as if I was crazy. :(

[GK Punk]

The theater I saw it at, everyone cheered when he killed the molester.

[Ninjinister]

Saw it today. The penis thing really wasn't as a big deal as everyone made it out to be. I didn't even notice it most of the time he was nude on screen. Then again, maybe it's because I wasn't looking for it :p

The film was a decent adaptation, I thought. I didn't mind most of the parts that were cut other than the stuff that would have helped explain events in the movie, and the like, two minutes Bubastis received.