Well it's over....

[Drtooth]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OaMMiQVfsk4# for what I mean.

They've got so callous and greedy, they're building a cartoon supervillain mad scientist-esque machine that kills all copywrited clips that people actually watch.

Yup. Greedtube is slowly becoming the greedy rich horse's ass kissing company that all the other rich bastards have become. Thanks big *^%& evil corporations. Thanks for friggin nothing. You saw the internet and had to kill it, didn't you.

Oh well, we still have our terrorist training videos and horrible amature soft porn. As long as we ban evil people who try to show people things that haven't been seen for years, and keep the decent hard working posters who join up just to say "hmmm not as good as the ugly skanks on cheapcrappyporno.web"

[ToTheNines]

Major bull ****, so many cartoons that aren't on DVD are on there...

[Revan]

Is this news for real? That's a bummer. Looks like we will have to somehow find a way to survive this major crisis. Like, live the way we did before youtube existed. :o Nooooooooo!

Funny video though. Just mulitple screens of words.:lol: :lol:

[ThirdMarioBro]

Who cares? Anyone who is a pirate worth their pantaloons known you pirate using bittorrent and dvix. Nobody uses Youtube for anything outside video blogs and amature porn.

[Jo Dawn]

Hmm. Oh well. Doesn't bug me much. Doesn't affect me.

But for those it does, we all know another site will come up. *shrugs*

[Drtooth]

Who cares? Anyone who is a pirate worth their pantaloons known you pirate using bittorrent and dvix. Nobody uses Youtube for anything outside video blogs and amature porn.


....some of us don't want to choke our computer's memory on various things that take 2 hours to download when you want to watch just a few random old commercials.

I mean dammit. If they feel so threatened by this stuff, why don't they do this themselves? Viacom and Warners got the right idea. You can watch some of their cartoons online. And apparently Sesame Workshop is supposed to make their own site, but it keeps getting pushed back.

But what the hell is Youtube good for now? Nothing! once again the massive entertainment conglomerates that pull enough copywrite infringement themselves and make money off of it get to screw us little guys who just want to watch some weird stuff for research and the shear fun of it.

Dailymotions going to do the same thing. We need to get some hackers to make one all their own and put said things on their.

Truth is I don't WANT to see current stuff, and that's the problem. nNo thanks to the crapholes that put full movies that are still in theaters on their. This is the only way to bypass the completely retarded method of "Region coding" things that the US will never get due to the fact they can't make money off it.

But screw them and big fat old rich musicians that actually make it.

[Spike Spiegel]

....some of us don't want to choke our computer's memory on various things that take 2 hours to download when you want to watch just a few random old commercials.



Exactly, for example, I don't even own my own computer. I use my local library. If I can't use YouTube for this kind of stuff, where will I get it?

No more Justice League Unlimited episodes, no more classic Toonami bumpers, no more episodes of the stuff I grew up with that isn't on DVD?

This sucks.

$#%$ Google. I agree with the one who made the video.

[Jon]

No more Justice League Unlimited episodes, no more classic Toonami bumpers, no more episodes of the stuff I grew up with that isn't on DVD?


Well... JLU is on DVD. But I get what you're meaning.

Though, lately a large amount of cartoons (old and new) are getting released on DVD.

[Spike Spiegel]

Yeah JLu is on Dvd (which I hope to buy the final season soon to finish it) but not being able to watch the few eps I don't own ticks me off.

[Drtooth]

Well... JLU is on DVD. But I get what you're meaning.

Though, lately a large amount of cartoons (old and new) are getting released on DVD.


Not so much animes that haven't been made in the last 3 years, or anything pretty obscure.

But come on. We can all remove the mask now! Copywrite has NOTHING to do with it. The truth is no one's going to see Hollywood's playDoh fun factory shoot out another chop film, raucous 90 minute poop joke, or dumbed down remake of something that was a million times better in the first place. And no one's watching TV anymore, with some exceptions, because it's all reality garbage and crap that's been done before.

This is EXACTLY what happened to the MP3 Downloads 5 years ago. The music industry was pooping out garbage dance music, and CD's were both becoming obsolete, and rediculously expensive at the same time. And nothing was worth buying as that was the era of one hit wonders with Bling Bling psuedo rap, and emo rock. There was no reason to buy a 20 dollar CD for one song. Instead of taking the hint, they sued the crap out of everyone they can sue, then relented to do the right thing with Itunes.

The difference here? You can't really burn these to DVD, you know. Maybe you can, but that's not it. It's not stealing any more money from the major "entertainment" conglomerates, as half the stuff up on their is either totally obscure shows that won;t make any money if released, or snippets of current shows (which in all honesty whet the appitite of the general public to watch more).

Some douches put full movies that are out in theaters, and full episodes of current shows. THEY should be punnished. Not the people who say, "Look at what I found! I used to love this and I want to share it with people."

The next thing you know the video game industry will lose money since people aren't going to buy the same GTA ripoffs and formuliac racing games, and they'll blame people with Atari 2600 emulators. Which is as rediculous as companies going after people selling stuff on E-bay because it takes profits away from them (especially on out of print merchandise).

Welcome to the McInternet, brought to you by Pepsi, people.

[Mecha Cow]

Let them kill their traffic if they want. As I've said many times before, you can't fight the internet. Some other site will pop up and take its place before you know it.

[Revan]

as half the stuff up on their is either totally obscure shows that won;t make any money if released, or snippets of current shows (which in all honesty whet the appitite of the general public to watch more).

I believe people should have to pay for tv shows on DVD but you have a point about the ones that are not. If the show is not available for purchase, they really aren't losing any money by showing it for free. I suppose there isn't a foolproof way to only allow unrealsed shows though.

[Drtooth]

No. Viacom would have them pull down all the Mighty mouse clips, but if you ask for it on DVD, they'll totally refuse it saying they can't make money off it. But if you ask for someone to put it up on a site, they'll take it down because they're not making money from it. So you ask for it on DVD, they say there's no way they can sell. Vicious cycle of stupidity.


There SHOULD be a loophole. And besided. Sometimes the best promotion for a box set is to put one or two small episodes up for viewing so people can decide if they want it or not.

But in the end, it's all about making phoney excuses and blame towards the little guy and not finding out no one wants any more retarded Judge Programs or weight loss shows or anything like that. The Internet is going to have the same crappy restrictions TV has.

You'd think at LEAST they'd make calbe cheaper or something, but no.


Let them kill their traffic if they want. As I've said many times before, you can't fight the internet. Some other site will pop up and take its place before you know it.
And then they'll eat that up to. Corporate America won't be happy until they find a way to repeal that funny little amendment about slavery, and then brand us with the Coke logo. i'm all for capitalism, but give someone a damn chance.

Personally, I feel if that unfunny Andy Samberg didn't put that short film, "Lazy Comedy".... errrr "Lazy Sunday" up here, then it would have had it's cult status, and we'd be able to get more of this stuff up here.

But now it's going to be a site where idiots put their dumb home movies of their cats on, fat girls make amature porn, the anti-futurist terrorists hypocritically using the internet to get more hypocritical moron recruits, and all that horrible stuff that real people on their avoid.

[Warhorse]

I'm not too sure what the op is talking about. I clicked on the youtube link, but it lead to a removed video.

So, what is youtube doing now to spoil the fun for people? There was always a copywrite issue, but people just get around anyway.

And I always wondered, why doesn't some foreign country let something like youtube set up base with it's own servers, and is out of United States copywrite jurisdiction?

[Voltron]

When they took down Napster, they brought up Kazaa.

When they took down Youtube, what head will grow back in its place?

Hmmmm. . .

Internet=Hydra. You can't kill the beast.

[Spitfire]

When they took down Napster, they brought up Kazaa.

And then they killed Kazaa and Lime.wire came forth and they gave up.

I think that'll happen here eventually to.

[Drtooth]

When they took down Napster, they brought up Kazaa.

When they took down Youtube, what head will grow back in its place?

Hmmmm. . .

Internet=Hydra. You can't kill the beast.

Now there's Daily Motion.... except, guess what? They're going after them too. I don't care about the next thing. Truth is the next thing will be killed as well, or at least until they privatize the net until it's basically just as retarded and restricted as television.

[Spike Spiegel]

Which is why I am very fortunate to have every DCAU cartoon available to me on DVD...how else would I see them?

[Warhorse]

Hey, you all talking about this copyright infringement taken too far. How do you all think about Johnson & Johnson suing the Red Cross for using the red cross emblem? Is that the most asinine thing you ever heard about! And talk about being greedy! I really hope the judge throws johnson and johnson right on their greedy a$$e$!

[Kunoichi_Haruko]

Hey, you all talking about this copyright infringement taken too far. How do you all think about Johnson & Johnson suing the Red Cross for using the red cross emblem? Is that the most asinine thing you ever heard about! And talk about being greedy! I really hope the judge throws johnson and johnson right on their greedy a$$e$!

Whoa! When did they do this, Warhorse?!

[Ra]

When they took down Napster, they brought up Kazaa.

When they took down Youtube, what head will grow back in its place?

Hmmmm. . .

Internet=Hydra. You can't kill the beast.
Well said. There are places like livevideo.com that can easily take place the void YouTube has left in our hearts (if you haven't gone there, go there. The similarities are frightening).

Besides, we all knew this was going to happen ever since Google bought YouTube. Well, I did, at least. It was going to happen some time, which is sad to say. Like Voltron just said, you can't kill the internet. Something will always re-spawn in place of a popular site. What's to say that YouTube is an exception to this rule?

[Drtooth]

Hey as long as the devil worshiping media conglomerates don't f*&% that one up too, I'm all for it.

BTW... I didn't make that phrase "Devil Worshiping Media Conglomerates" up. I stole it from Troma founder Lloyd Kaufman.

[Warhorse]

Whoa! When did they do this, Warhorse?!


http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-08-08-redcross-lawsuit_N.htm

I saw it on the news last week, and it jsut broke my heart that a corporation is going after an organization that is trying to help those in need. How low can one go? It's just horrid what johnson & johnson is doing. I really hope the courts b!tch slap those people to their senses. They really need to. What's next. chevy suing the television show Cops because when they are video taping a car chase, it just so happens that the chase involves a couple of CHevy's? Or maybe America's Funniest Home Videos winner will be sued by a theme park because their funny video was taped at Walt Disney's Animal Kingdom or something?

[Deathknight]

Okay, the video was removed. What exactly was it? Obviously it's something about not having copyrighted stuff on Youtube anymore but what exactly did it show.

[Aelia]

I wouldn't have a problem with Youtube cracking down like this if they'd be a little less harsh. They're taking down fanmade stuff too.

[Ra]

I wouldn't have a problem with Youtube cracking down like this if they'd be a little less harsh. They're taking down fanmade stuff too.
This is my biggest problem with YouTube. I know two great fan artists who had their accounts band by making music videos, and one guy with his own series is really getting the short end of the stick, simply because it's spoofing an anime series. There really is no justice with YouTube at all...

*end random outburst*

[Drtooth]

Fan made stuff.... yeah.... that's the big fat greedy evil conglomerates I know and love...

The stuff I saved to favorites is mostly still there.


But fanmade stuff? Come on!

Does anyone even watch Youtube for moronic vlogs, old women videotaping their cats falling off the TV, and Andy Samberg crap?

[Warhorse]

I always thought the copyright thing was just so people cant take the copywrited material and sell it. But for some sort of collage to show people what you like, and show some unique spin and creativity with a character or a video you used to like, as long as you dont use it for profit, shouldn't be bothering anyone!


But then again, the big corporations seem to be the old slave drivers rearing their ugly heads, and now that they got sleepers in power to do their bidding, it's just a matter of time before they turn anyone who isn't making 1 billion a year into obedient pieces of horse flesh!

[Ledezman]

This copyrights stuff is so filled with legal loopholes and oddities. There is an interesting documentary that deals with music copyrights and how the business is evolving because of Internet and file sharing. Maybe you have already seen it, but if you don't, check it out. It shows some interesting points of view.

[/URL][url]http://www.goodcopybadcopy.net/ (http://www.goodcopybadcopy.net/)

[Drtooth]

Copyrights are ridiculous. they'll stop someone from making a Mickey mouse mural in a preschool, but they can't go after Taiwanese bootleggers of Mucky Mouse products. I want to see the loophole that allows Chicken Little "Sea life" stickers selling at dollar stores, but you can't post the trailer online.

Copyrights are intended to protect people from having their ideas stolen by another company who intends to make money off of it. Like say, If I came up with a cartoon about a crimefighting squid that sings Punk metal songs... that means if someone comes out with a cartoon about a crime fighting octopus who hip hops and looks the same, but has a slightly different color they'd get sued.

But the truth is copyrights protect talentless wealthy guys who buy up whatever they can as an investment. Ripoffs and knockoffs are almost entirely glazed over now. look at Coconut Fred's Fruit Salad Island. How come the hell Nickelodeon didn't sick their rottweiler lawyers on Warners, but they sick them on people who use clips of Spongebob to random music who want to show that they appreciate the shows?

I am somehow not surprised that Warners is part of this copyright gestapo. They have ruined themselves with bulls***** like Loonatics Unleashed, and they refuse to put Duck Dodgers and Tiny Toons on DVD, but will threaten legal action to pull the clips off Youtube. hey. You're not making any money off of it. Why must you insist on keeping it in a guarded cave and not using it?

[Spike Spiegel]

I am somehow not surprised that Warners is part of this copyright gestapo. They have ruined themselves with bulls***** like Loonatics Unleashed, and they refuse to put Duck Dodgers and Tiny Toons on DVD, but will threaten legal action to pull the clips off Youtube. hey. You're not making any money off of it. Why must you insist on keeping it in a guarded cave and not using it?

I can't understand WB either...they shoot out DVDs of "Ben 10(a freaking movie...? Already?!),"Teen Titans," and "Loonatics" like gangbusters, but all the old cool stuff that fans love them for is seemingly stuck in a vault somewhere. When people care about something enough to post it on the "Internets" because there is no other way to access the said products, there should be gears and stuff turning in the CEO's heads. "Hmmm...there is a high demand for Program/Show X. We should release it on DVD and make craploads of money."

Unfortunately, the Man is seemingly too high on whatever he gets high on(must be pretty potent, huh?) to realize the massive potential of this stuff.

[Drtooth]

Teen titans at least has Comic Book geek appeal. I'm thrilled and actually surprised they even released Animaniacs and Pinky and the Brain (in multiple volumes, yet). Meanwhile the Hanna Barbera line of DVD's somehow is running out of gas enough for them to release "Wait till your Father Gets Home", but they didn't bother trying to figure out how to sell Atom Ant/ Secret Squirrel show DVD's.

The Animaniacs DVD's were pretty successful... you'd think they'd inquire about Freakazoid and Tiny toons by now, since they've finished Pinky and the Brain.

But why no Duck Dodgers? Are you going to keep that in a vault and never see it again and then release every horrible show you do now?

[Jester]

I no longer have a youtube for this very reason....I assumed it was just my full Animaniacs shorts (Little Drummer Warners and Hooked on a Ceiling) but it may have been my TMNT music video too? Great, thanks You Tube. And they didn't send me a "We're gonna delete your account" notice either, just went to check feedback on a video, and I was gone. Anyone else have this happen?

[Drtooth]

Your fault on that one. maybe you should have done rediculously dangerous stunts, or had a bunch of teenage girls fight each other and tape it. You know, cuz Youtube values human safety over copyrights.

[Spike Spiegel]

I am currently browsing LiveVideo. Check this video out.

http://www.livevideo.com/video/smudgeman/4FA5404F6D1D47DB9672B6ADDA86A4C9/yousue.aspx

[Drtooth]

Only a few more days until Adolf the copywrite fairy kills free speach again.

[Slash]

All it takes is for like a place in Asia or elsewhere to set up a new youtube.com like site and we are good to go. US laws do not stop or hold elsewhere!

[GK Punk]

psst. copyright laws are international.

[Warhorse]

psst. copyright laws are international.


But they will not hold in countries like Iran or Columbia, or even Cuba where the United States Lawyers have no jurisdiction outside of U.S. protected bases.

[GK Punk]

It wouldn't stop them from trying though. We all know this.

[Drtooth]

Of course, it doesn't stop them from pulling illegal DVD's in Iraq or Taiwan. Or stopping China or Korea from making illegal bootlegg stickers they sell in US stores.

I mean, we can all agree that losing money and copywrites has NOTHING to do with this, and it's all the companies wanting to buy up the internet because they made Radio, Movies, and TV suck so bad that no one wants them anymore.

[Slash]

psst. copyright laws are international.

But they will not hold in countries like Iran or Columbia, or even Cuba where the United States Lawyers have no jurisdiction outside of U.S. protected bases.

Thanks Warhorse, that is what I was trying to get at. Are we really willing to screw with Cuba and Columbia over the rights of Teddy Ruxpin episodes being uploaded onto CuTube.com? Yeah, military is larger and technologically advanced enough to take on Cuba but over all, that would help spark WWIII.

Think, when US Lawyers tell CuTube to take down those MOTU videos and those Cubans refuse, eventually sparks will happen between the US and Cuba.

Especially with certain power hungry politicians...