Jagwar! Awesome!

[a_big_apple]

Check out Murphy's blog (http://the-5th-turtle.blogspot.com/2007/08/jagwar-action-figure.html) today! A Jagwar figure, after...how long has it been? So cool.

[Roseangelo]

Yes, this is great news!!

[mattmanw54301]

:o friggin AWESOME!!!!

[CyberCubed]

Playmates seems to be at a loss of what to do with the toyline, read Murphy's blog...Michelangelo in Australia? They're really trying to milk what little they can out of the movie line despite them making all the possibile characters already.

Jagwar is cool though, too bad the other creatures are going to be brand new. Would have liked to see Dreadmon as well, he'd fit right in.

[CudleyCowlick]

If you could only see me now, dancing like I got ants in my pants! I couldn't be happier... and I can't wait to see a prototype. Better yet, I can't wait to BUY two of them when they hit the shelves.

[VaughnMichael]

this news is seriously making me cry tears of joy!!:cry:

[Roseangelo]

Playmates seems to be at a loss of what to do with the toyline, read Murphy's blog...Michelangelo in Australia? They're really trying to milk what little they can out of the movie line despite them making all the possibile characters already.

I know, and I agree. I actually got to talk with Jason Bischoff, the guy Murphy mentions in his post, for a little bit at Comic-Con and I can guarantee you that this guy is for the fans. He asked the group of us that was gathered what we wanted to see from Playmates and I outright told him, "No more goofy costumes!" But he lamented that the "goofy costumes" are something that we're going to have to live with. He analogized it with the Batman line and how many different outfits he's been given in action figure form.

However, and I'm not 100% sure I'm remembering this correctly so don't take it as fact, but I believe he said that they'd be trying to release the "goofy costume" figures with completely removable gear so that there'd be a regular action figure underneath it all. I think this is how the new movie wave is - and while most of us already have the figures underneath the accessories in the new wave, at least that means they'll eventually become just regular Turtle action figures when they hit the garage sales rather than being stuck as Birthday Clown Turtles forever.

But in light of being stuck with the "goofy outfits," offsetting that with figures like Jagwar is perfect.

[VaughnMichael]

I'm gonna have to dissagree with doing it that way unless they atleast make new head sculpts.
This is why I don't mind all the goofy variants in the old line because each figure was a brand new sculpt making it an all new figures.
All the entire 2k3 line was for the most part and now with this new movie lines it is just things sculpted over the same figure over and over and over again....and you wonder why they sit on the shelves? Kids aren't stupid.
Anyways like I said I seriously cried over this news of Jagwar being made now if Murphy can only get other characters made.
The Line that we need is one called TMNT Universe and they could any character from any medium and any time period.
To me that would be the ultimate line and thats what they should be doing.
Shame I wasn't there to put my 2 cents in at the con I always seem to miss my opertunity.:ohwell:

[Roseangelo]

Oh I agree that more effort should be put into the Turtle sculpts, but it's one victory at a time and right now getting Jagwar is a victory. :)

[VaughnMichael]

Oh I agree that more effort should be put into the Turtle sculpts, but it's one victory at a time and right now getting Jagwar is a victory. :)
Indeed now I'm gonna push for that Armaggon figure.:lol:

[Raph's Girl]

Global Mutant Missions eh? Man oh man I hope that means they'll be making a Ninjara figure!!! Please please PLEASE make a Ninjara figure!!!! :o

But WOOT!!! A Jagwar figure!!! YEA! :evilgrin:

But those 4 secondary's.... I wonder who the other 3 are??? Ninjara perhaps?? Or Dreadmon? Charlie Llama??? Al'Falqa?? Chien Khan?? The possabilities are endless!

Edit: Bah.. just noticed "the other three characters have never appeared before in any medium"....well still.. if they're making Jagwar....

[VaughnMichael]

Yeah that makes me wonder if the other characters are mutants or what I sure hope they're mutants or monsters.
The turtes figure line has seriously been missing out on all those cool ideas for waaay to long.

[CyberCubed]

Yeah, I'm not buying anymore Movie TMNT varients because they're all EXACTLY the same.

The Street Grinding series was garbage so I skipped that, and of the new wave I only plan to get Leo (and Shredder and Sloth Monster) since that was actually in the movie. Raph, Mike and Don are the same damn thing but with new accessories, I'm not wasting my money on the same figures I already have.

The movie line will probably slip in sales once people realize they're rebuying the same TMNT figures. At least in the old 2k3 line the Turtles actually LOOKED different whenever they made new varients.

[METALHEAD]

Michelangelo in Australia i like that i'd like to see in dressed in human clothes like the original toys:tgrin:

[Ninjinister]

I think I just had the world's biggest fangasm.

http://the-5th-turtle.blogspot.com/2007/08/lindo-maravilhoso.html

[Raph's Girl]

EEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@th e Jagwar figure... OMG! OMG! That reeks of Awesomnes!!!! Me want now!! Me want now!!! :o

[Roseangelo]

Holy crap! It's fantastic!

[CyberCubed]

Anyone think that a vintage line of either old toon or Archie characters is more likely than ever?

Doesn't Laird still have to approve of characters before they put them into production? Does that mean he approved of the use of Jaguar? Or is Murphy allowed to tell Playmates to make a toy without Laird's approval?

[Roseangelo]

Anyone think that a vintage line of either old toon or Archie characters is more likely than ever?

Doesn't Laird still have to approve of characters before they put them into production? Does that mean he approved of the use of Jaguar? Or is Murphy allowed to tell Playmates to make a toy without Laird's approval?

I'm hoping this is a sign that things will be changing and we may eventually see old toon and Archie figures. I think Peter approves new figures on some level, but I'm not sure how deep that runs. I do know that he's the barrier that's keeping old toon figures from being made. It does sound like Murphy is trying to change this, especially based on some comments he made here (https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2490093766124645019&postID=544583370605886915).

[Jones_Casey]

did anybody else read that other post about the krang gang, apparntly the license for the old toon characters has been bought so they could be put on t-shirts but something hints that maybe we'll get action figures aswell.

I don't know who this Jagwaar guy is but what the hell new secondary figures for once i'm buyin them up

[CyberCubed]

If there is a change of heart in Mirage lately, its a pretty good one.

did anybody else read that other post about the krang gang, apparntly the license for the old toon characters has been bought so they could be put on t-shirts but something hints that maybe we'll get action figures aswell.

Mirage has always owned the license to ALL the old toon or Archie characters, they just chose not to use them. There are no "rights" that prevents Mirage from doing stuff with Rocksteady, Bebop, Krang, Slash, etc.

[ToTheNines]

Only, they= Laird.

[Roseangelo]

Only, they= Laird.

Exactly.

:roll:

[Drtooth]

A toy based on an Archie comics character.... this is not happening. I was hit buy that bus and I'm in heaven.

Of course, I'd kill for a "Jess Harley" Leather Head too.... but ain't gonna happen.

[Raph's Girl]

I don't know who this Jagwaar guy is but what the hell new secondary figures for once i'm buyin them up

Jagwar is half Jaguar/half human. Yesuree...Bestiality was present and accounted for in the Archie series. :lol:

His mother, Juntara, was a native of a small villiage in Brazil who wanted more out of her life. So she went on a quest for enlightenment. First she went South and encountered a snake god to figuratively shed her skin of her old life (the turtles would eventually encounter the snake god...he was a bit of a ditz). Then she went West and encountered Jaguar, the god of death (he also goes by a rather familiar name if you saw the movie... Jaguar aka Yaotl). She fell in love with Jaguar and they had a child (he was in cat form the entire time BTW...*lol*). Eventually she left her love and son (Jagwar was 12 at the time) to continue her path.

The turtles first encounter Jagwar in Brazil at a temple dedicated to Yaotl. He is trying his best to stop the deforestation occuring there (note: read an article today that deforestation has dropped sharply in that area :D ). He helps them save April (who is doing some report there) and joins em on their adventures. He eventually helps to form a new team of anthromorphic heroes called The Mighty Mutanimals (a spin-off series came out of it). Unfortunatly Jagwar and the rest of the mutanimals were brutily murdered. :ohwell:

Jagwar's one of my fave characters out of the Archie series other than Ninjara, so Im TOTALLY happy that they're making an action figure of him. :evilgrin:

Oh here's a pic of Jagwar (taken from the TMNT Archie Universe Sourcebooks):
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/Dierna/TMNT/Jagwar.jpg

[Spitfire]

this news is seriously making me cry tears of joy!!:cry:

I was just about to say, Hell has just frozen over, and I'm ready for the snow!

[Jones_Casey]

thanks for the bio, even though i never read the archie comics i'm really glad about this line as it poses the possibility of us getting new figures from various mediums along with new characters and hopefully characters from the 2003 toon.

has anyone else thought that their might be a connection between jagwar, our three other new nameless friends and the new TMNT cartoon thats supposed to be released sometime next year?

[VaughnMichael]

I'm gonna sound ungreatfull but I don't like how he looks....he looks more like Rahzar to me than Jagwar...:ohwell:

[ToTheNines]

I'm gonna sound ungreatfull but I don't like how he looks....he looks more like Rahzar to me than Jagwar...:ohwell:

Meh, let's just hope it's not a final product.

[gobo]

I find the promise of a Jagwar fig quite alluring. But, no longer do I collect action figures. However, if they make an Armaggon... ^_^!!!

[Roseangelo]

I'm gonna sound ungreatfull but I don't like how he looks....he looks more like Rahzar to me than Jagwar...:ohwell:

It's a different style for him, yes.. but look at all the detail he's got! And that's been one of your big complaints! And keep in mind he's sculpted to fit the CGI world, not the comic book world.

However, if they make an Armaggon... ^_^!!!

News of an Armaggon will be my heart attack-inducing moment. And how can you have Armaggon without Verminator X? But I really shouldn't get too hopeful too fast here...

[VaughnMichael]

It's a different style for him, yes.. but look at all the detail he's got! And that's been one of your big complaints! And keep in mind he's sculpted to fit the CGI world, not the comic book world.
yeah and I'm one of the people who hate the cgi worlds look...I'll take comic turtles any day over lizard looking ones.
And I hate his arm position he's gonna be elbowing all of my figures with that articulation lol:lol:
Oh well it's cool and all but it's just not Jagwar to me.
It's the head I'll be honest I also think it's the lack of pupils like I said in Murphys blog thats doing this to me...he looks to Evil I really hope they don't make him a bad guy...:ohwell:
It's like I also said to him it's not that I don't like the figure it's bad ass it's just not the Jagwar I know.
I'm looking over the figure now the detail is nice considering that it's based on the cgi world which is all rubbery and plastic looking for most characters...but I notice he has little spots perhaps it's not a fully painted proto type.
I'll be buying it anyways perhaps I'll just take the parts off I don't like and resculpt it to look more like the Archie version.

[Roseangelo]

Oh come on, adding pupils to a figure is the easiest mod you can make. ;)

[VaughnMichael]

News of an Armaggon will be my heart attack-inducing moment. And how can you have Armaggon without Verminator X? But I really shouldn't get too hopeful too fast here...
Yeah you, me and quite a few others.:lol:
Oh come on, adding pupils to a figure is the easiest mod you can make. ;)
yeah true his fur colour is also off it's to dark...but I guess I can change that also...was expecting leafs on him I guess but like I said I'm gonna sculpt all of that...the head resculpting is going to be the hardest part...his head looks to large to me.

[mattmanw54301]

Anyone know what scale it will be? TMNT 2k3 scale or movie figure scale?

[VaughnMichael]

Anyone know what scale it will be? TMNT 2k3 scale or movie figure scale?
I'd Imagine Movie...which really doesn't bother me because Jagwars pretty large.

[mattmanw54301]

So I'd imagine this 'Global Mutant Missions' thing is the theme for the 08 series eh? Could be cool. I think what they are trying to do is give us some updated versions of the Archie characters along with the 4 Turtles. Which is cool. It's not a vintage Mutanimals line, but it's a start!!!!!

[CyberCubed]

Hey, imagine if these mutants appear in the new direction for the cartoon in 2008? :p

I could see them using Armaggon, maybe.

[Raph's Girl]

Well you gotta realize that the sculpts don't always resemble the finished product.

An Armaggon figure would be nice....but a Ninjara figure would be even nicer. :evilgrin:

[VaughnMichael]

Well you gotta realize that the sculpts don't always resemble the finished product.
The only time that really ever falls into place is with the paint jobs not the sculpting I know I've been collecting action figures and proto types for a long time.

[Spitfire]

I'm gonna sound ungreatfull but I don't like how he looks....he looks more like Rahzar to me than Jagwar...:ohwell:

Actually he looks like the cat warriors from the Tales issue with the multi-Leo's. Eh I'm just happy to see an Archie character made into a toy.

If his spots were painted he'd look way better.

[DTBlack]

Even though I know none of these will happen, I really wish they would make this Casey

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/DinoThunderBlack/1861fe11.jpg

This April

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/DinoThunderBlack/aae67a63.png

One of the larger Foot Ninja's

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/DinoThunderBlack/cf2feddb.png

And since TMNT is a loose sequel to the other three films a Tatsu figure would rock.

[Raph's Girl]

Even though I know none of these will happen,.

Er....they DID make those..... I have movie April and Casey....I even have Karai (who is standing next to my 2K3 Karai) I didn't get the foot soldier tho.

[Roseangelo]

Er....they DID make those.....

They did not make figures with the outfits that he posted pictures of. And they only made the skinny foot soldier, not the bigger one.

[VaughnMichael]

Eh I'm just happy to see an Archie character made into a toy.

If his spots were painted he'd look way better.
Oh don't get me wrong so am I but I'd much rather them be charactor correct.
Like Splinter says "Some things do not need to change they are fine the way they are." & I agree.
Like I said I'll be getting this and any other animal or mutant characters they make.

[Drtooth]

Dude... I'd buy a trachea plug if it had Casey Jones on it.

[Blade Raider]

Jagwar is half Jaguar/half human. Yesuree...Bestiality was present and accounted for in the Archie series. :lol:

His mother, Juntara, was a native of a small villiage in Brazil who wanted more out of her life. So she went on a quest for enlightenment. First she went South and encountered a snake god to figuratively shed her skin of her old life (the turtles would eventually encounter the snake god...he was a bit of a ditz). Then she went West and encountered Jaguar, the god of death (he also goes by a rather familiar name if you saw the movie... Jaguar aka Yaotl). She fell in love with Jaguar and they had a child (he was in cat form the entire time BTW...*lol*). Eventually she left her love and son (Jagwar was 12 at the time) to continue her path.

The turtles first encounter Jagwar in Brazil at a temple dedicated to Yaotl. He is trying his best to stop the deforestation occuring there (note: read an article today that deforestation has dropped sharply in that area :D ). He helps them save April (who is doing some report there) and joins em on their adventures. He eventually helps to form a new team of anthromorphic heroes called The Mighty Mutanimals (a spin-off series came out of it). Unfortunatly Jagwar and the rest of the mutanimals were brutily murdered. :ohwell:

Thanks, I've been puzzled how he fits into the CGI world. Now I know; and knowing is half the battle!

Dangit, I got to stop watching GI Joe...

Oh don't get me wrong so am I but I'd much rather them be charactor correct.
Like Splinter says "Some things do not need to change they are fine the way they are." & I agree.
Like I said I'll be getting this and any other animal or mutant characters they make.
I find it funny that your quoting a character that has had his fur color changed multiple times. Maybe Splinter's a hypocrite :P

[VaughnMichael]

I find it funny that your quoting a character that has had his fur color changed multiple times. Maybe Splinter's a hypocrite :P
haha perhaps but I don't think he has a say in the colour of his own fur.
I still perfer him brown. He's brown in just about every world the only things he's ever been gray in where the next mutation and the new toon.

[Raph's Girl]

the only things he's ever been gray in where the next mutation and the new toon.

Splinter's not grey and he wasn't ever technically brown. The colour is called Agouti. Currently he's Blue Agouti (and ironically the first male domestic rat I ever had was named Splinter and HE was a Blue Agouti). So I don't mind the colour change really cuz Agouti's rock!! :D

*mourns all the Agouti she ever had. Splinter, Tenchi (son of Splinter and Umeko...he was a regular Agouti), Willye, Videl....*

[VaughnMichael]

Splinter's not grey and he wasn't ever technically brown. The colour is called Agouti. Currently he's Blue Agouti (and ironically the first male domestic rat I ever had was named Splinter and HE was a Blue Agouti). So I don't mind the colour change really cuz Agouti's rock!! :D

*mourns all the Agouti she ever had. Splinter, Tenchi (son of Splinter and Umeko...he was a regular Agouti), Willye, Videl....*
mmhmmm.....you can get all technical and all that but I see brown.
Mirage
http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/s/splinter1.jpg
Cartoon
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7c/CartoonSplinter.jpg/320px-CartoonSplinter.jpg
Archie Comics Splinter
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/Harmophious/cover.jpg
Heck I was wrong the next mutation splinter is even brownish with hints of white to his fur.
http://members.fortunecity.com/neodevilbane/tnm-splint.jpg
Hell even in the new movie he's closer to how I like how he looks
http://www.worstpreviews.com/images/teenagemutantninjaturtles.gif
And I see Gray I'm not getting technical I know what you're talking about and if that was the case he'd be a little more blueish than faded gray and whites.
The Next Mutation Splinter Figure is the only time he's come close to the new toons colour before.
But I ended up painting my next mutation splinter brown because it's my favorite figure of splinter thus far.
http://i17.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/a9/1f/d75a_1.JPG
New Toon
http://www.playmatestoys.com/turtles/images/wallpaper/Splinter_Wallpaper_800x600.jpg
Anyways the point that I was making mizz Technical was that I happen to like the brown colouring on splinter better than the new ones. I grew up seeing him that way and he will forever be that way in my eyes.
It does sort of make me wonder why change the colour after all of this time when he's been the other way in every other medium.

[Vegita-San]

That explanation really didn't explain anything, because we don't know why Batman also suffers from the same fate,except for the fact that Mattell has no originality whatsoever..

If this guy from playmates is reading, I WANT COLLECTIBLE STATUES! Something along the lines of the 4 Horseman He-Man Busts and statues. Highly detailed version of Krang and his Android, an ACURATE version of the Technodrome(not that crummy toy we got in '92..), etc. something on the classic line for the collectible market. Nostalgia sells strong :).

[Blade Raider]

Anyways the point that I was making mizz Technical was that I happen to like the brown colouring on splinter better than the new ones. I grew up seeing him that way and he will forever be that way in my eyes.
It does sort of make me wonder why change the colour after all of this time when he's been the other way in every other medium.
If nothing changes, nothing is ever new or different...and that makes life boring :P

Of course, the grey easily could have been Saban's idea. Saban has alway favored blighter colors in their shows, so they probably wanted him to stand out more and asked for the color change.

[VaughnMichael]

If nothing changes, nothing is ever new or different...and that makes life boring :P

Of course, the grey easily could have been Saban's idea. Saban has alway favored blighter colors in their shows, so they probably wanted him to stand out more and asked for the color change.
Looks can change but why change perfection.

[METALHEAD]

I think I just had the world's biggest fangasm.

http://the-5th-turtle.blogspot.com/2007/08/lindo-maravilhoso.html

OMG KICKASS! WOWY WOW WOW!!! I WANT IT BAD NOW I NEEEEEEEDDDDSSSS IT MYYY PPREECIOUSSSSS... xp:D :o :teek: :tgrin: :tsmile: :twink: :thyper: :tthumbsu:

[Blade Raider]

Looks can change but why change perfection.
Because people have different views on what is perfection:eyemouth:

[VaughnMichael]

Because people have different views on what is perfection:eyemouth:
Indeed they do but Take Jagwar for example here to me perfection would be good articulation, the right look, the right colours, and a head thats not so fat looking.:kgrin:

[Ninjinister]

http://the-5th-turtle.blogspot.com/2007/08/jagwar-redux.html

Murphy explains more on the Jagwar situation.

[Raph's Girl]

At least Murphy was honest in them saying it wasn't originally gonna be Archie's Jagwar....just some random mutant Jaguar.

Now....Im a bit confuzled....are they making a Tazmanian Devil figure that might or might not be a bad guy???

[CyberCubed]

Y'know, at that rate Playmates might as well make toys of the entire Mighty Mutanimals.

Excluding Leatherhead I guess, because 2k3 Leatherhead is different from Archie Leatherhead. Although I wouldn't mind a new Leatherhead toy, as long as it has the same personality as the 2k3 one and not turned into the Archie version.

[Drtooth]

Hmmm... I was hit by that truck. Didn't send me to heaven though...

(Slams head violently on key board ala Don Music) I'l never get it! Never! NEver!

[VaughnMichael]

At least I know Murphys not ignoring what I reply to him now lmao!
Like I said it's not that I don't like the figure it just doesn't remind me of him and now we know why.
I'll be buying it though for sure. :)