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Katie
08-31-2007, 06:44 AM
That Princess Diana died.


I just remember hearing it and it was so surreal. Here was a lady who did alot of good around the world.....and she was just gone. Just like that.

I've always thought it kind of sad that those people who do the most good are always the ones you hear about dying young.....and yet I have a neighborhood filled with stumbling old drunks and crackheads who never lift a finger and die of old age.

Ra
08-31-2007, 07:11 AM
Ten years? Man...it seems so much longer than that.

I was in my first year of school when it happened...I remember lots of adults crying for what I thought was no reason. I thought everyone was making a big deal over nothing. Why should we make her death a public spectacle when there were so many other people out there dying, my six-year-old mind thought. My grandfather died a few months before she did. Why wasn't he on TV? Why wasn't his death having such a big impact on people?

Over time, however, I learned of all of the good she did, and why it, her death, was such a public spectacle, even months after the event had taken place. It is such a shame to see someone like that go...I mean, she was using her publicity to raise awareness for things most people wouldn't have even paid attention to... *sighs*

Scandia
08-31-2007, 07:54 AM
I remember as if it were yesterday.

Sadly, I would receive some news that would send me into severe depression for 2+ years less than two months later.

Slash
08-31-2007, 08:47 AM
I was depressed because I turned 13 on that date and my parents stayed up all night watching CNN. My birthday events got cancelled because of the news and their lack of sleep. And then school started.

Funny how things didn't phase me about what happened.

Buslady
08-31-2007, 09:38 AM
I remember waking up super early to watch the funeral procession.

ZariusTwo
08-31-2007, 11:05 AM
Big whoop. Some press-hog camera whore got pwned and got some inane rock concert for a funeral we're still hearing about ten years later. I couldnt watch Beetleborgs because of that f*cking procession (end of the Shadowborg arc too)

And yes, she did "wonderful things", but they were buried beneath all the scandals she was involved with and wouldnt let go of herself for a quick buck. If she had spent all those interviews talking more about her humanitarian interests and not who her ex-husbund was doing, she'd have gotten more awareness from people regarding her plights. Now her goals will never be largely addressed because its much more interesting to wonder whenever or not The Queen ordered her murder.

Cure
08-31-2007, 12:00 PM
Big whoop. Some press-hog camera whore got pwned and got some inane rock concert for a funeral we're still hearing about ten years later. I couldnt watch Beetleborgs because of that f*cking procession (end of the Shadowborg arc too)


Sh*t, I remember that! But yeah, I've never even heard of that chick until she died.

Sewer Bull
08-31-2007, 12:16 PM
Oh. I wonder if anyone is going to remember Mother Theresa, who died, like, DAYS after Diana.

Raph's Girl
08-31-2007, 02:18 PM
Princess Diana's funeral was the first celebrity funeral I watched on tv and it was the first time I stayed up super late.

Mother Theresa's funeral however was creepy cuz it was an open casket! :o

As for my age....I was nearing the end of my High School years (17). I'd only had internet for a couple months.

Man...I've been online for 10 years now...

Slash
08-31-2007, 02:40 PM
Big whoop. Some press-hog camera whore got pwned and got some inane rock concert for a funeral we're still hearing about ten years later. I couldnt watch Beetleborgs because of that f*cking procession (end of the Shadowborg arc too)

And yes, she did "wonderful things", but they were buried beneath all the scandals she was involved with and wouldnt let go of herself for a quick buck. If she had spent all those interviews talking more about her humanitarian interests and not who her ex-husbund was doing, she'd have gotten more awareness from people regarding her plights. Now her goals will never be largely addressed because its much more interesting to wonder whenever or not The Queen ordered her murder.

Glad to see your sensitivity classes paid off! :D

Anarky
08-31-2007, 03:17 PM
And once more, the media makes a fuzz, after killing her off. Hounding her to death, by order or not, and then going "What a horrible tragedy" for years. And I always feel like the media is defiling corpses when they start hounding people again years after their relative died. Just let the dead rest and be done with it.

Hannah
09-01-2007, 11:55 AM
I don't know who she is.
Is this bad?

Cure
09-01-2007, 11:59 AM
I don't know who she is.
Is this bad?

Not really. Just some Princess that died in a car accident. You were probably really young. Like Zarius said, her funeral and crap was all over TV and you couldn't watch anything you wanted that day. It sucked.

Warhorse
09-01-2007, 12:18 PM
Wow, people not knowing who Princess Diana is, I don't care how young someone is, some people you should just know who they are from school or social activities, unless you're a hermit living under a rock. I wasn't around when Anna Sewell lived and died, but I at least knew who she was and what she stood for.

I remember getting up that night and turned on the tv and saw all this hoopla going on in a French tunnel. I saw the car crash, but didn't realize what had happened until I opened up the paper the next day. I was in shock. I didn't cry, but I was in shock. Last time I cried from a non family member dying, would be the race horse Go For Wand, when she broke her leg in the 1990 Breeders Cup and had to be destroyed right there in front of the cameras. That was horrible.

ZariusTwo
09-01-2007, 03:01 PM
Diana should have been nicknamed "go for wand" given how many lovers she had...

Hannah
09-01-2007, 03:21 PM
Wow, people not knowing who Princess Diana is, I don't care how young someone is, some people you should just know who they are from school or social activities, unless you're a hermit living under a rock. I wasn't around when Anna Sewell lived and died, but I at least knew who she was and what she stood for.

I remember getting up that night and turned on the tv and saw all this hoopla going on in a French tunnel. I saw the car crash, but didn't realize what had happened until I opened up the paper the next day. I was in shock. I didn't cry, but I was in shock. Last time I cried from a non family member dying, would be the race horse Go For Wand, when she broke her leg in the 1990 Breeders Cup and had to be destroyed right there in front of the cameras. That was horrible.
I was five, so if she was apparently just a princess/celeb whatever, why would it matter?

Katie
09-01-2007, 03:29 PM
wow. just. wow.


I dunno what to say. Good thing I picked today to go to a crossroads in my life. If I don't make it out ok, can die having known that the future is in good hands

Cure
09-01-2007, 04:01 PM
Wow, people not knowing who Princess Diana is, I don't care how young someone is, some people you should just know who they are from school or social activities, unless you're a hermit living under a rock. I wasn't around when Anna Sewell lived and died, but I at least knew who she was and what she stood for.


What school or social activities? I was in school for eight years after she died and no mention of her ever, even in brand new history books.

Kendamu
09-01-2007, 04:08 PM
Wow, people not knowing who Princess Diana is, I don't care how young someone is, some people you should just know who they are from school or social activities, unless you're a hermit living under a rock. I wasn't around when Anna Sewell lived and died, but I at least knew who she was and what she stood for.

I remember getting up that night and turned on the tv and saw all this hoopla going on in a French tunnel. I saw the car crash, but didn't realize what had happened until I opened up the paper the next day. I was in shock. I didn't cry, but I was in shock. Last time I cried from a non family member dying, would be the race horse Go For Wand, when she broke her leg in the 1990 Breeders Cup and had to be destroyed right there in front of the cameras. That was horrible.
Well, sorry, Warhorse. The state of Indiana didn't feel it necessary to publically educate me on who Princess Dianna was by the time she died (I was about 14). In fact, they never felt it necessary to educate me on her. Neither did any of my college history or social studies classes.

So, yeah, she died right before I turned 14. I had to sit in my parents' room and watch CNN or something while they sat and said "ZOMG tragety! She's dead!" for like 4 hours or something while not really showing or revealing anything else. Had they actually done something besides say the same thing over and over while showing the outside of the same tunnel over and over (like telling me who she is and what she's done) I might've cared at the time.

My parents thought that it would be "good for me" to sit and see this because it was history in the making. It didn't do much good, though, because to this day I still dont know what good she did for people. Everytime I see anything related to her it has something to do with camera-weilding motorcyclists, alcohol, some guy, and a tunnel. Aparently it was very important that she died but apparently I'm not supposed to know why it was a tragedy beyond the fact that it's human life and that she was a princess.

RAM BAM
09-01-2007, 04:33 PM
Oh. I wonder if anyone is going to remember Mother Theresa, who died, like, DAYS after Diana.

Thanks for bringing up Mother Theresa - Time just featured her
on the front of their magazine about her memoirs.

Ecto Jedi
09-01-2007, 05:13 PM
Wow, people not knowing who Princess Diana is, I don't care how young someone is, some people you should just know who they are from school or social activities, unless you're a hermit living under a rock. I wasn't around when Anna Sewell lived and died, but I at least knew who she was and what she stood for.

Anna...Sewell?

Warhorse
09-02-2007, 08:27 PM
I was five, so if she was apparently just a princess/celeb whatever, why would it matter?

Then if it didn't matter to you, then why are you responding to something you know nothing about?:ohwell:

Princess Diana was a common girl who married into royalty. She used her connections to help out the poor countries, kind of what Anglina Jolie does. She may have questionable relationships, but she is at least trying to help out the orphans in third world countries. The reason why Princess Diana was made more of a hoopla over during her death compared to Mother Theresa is because she died so tragically and young. It was even more worse that the photagraphers that had ran her off the road were still taking pictures of her dying instead of trying to help out.

I wasn't even born when Elvis was alive and died, but yet I still know who he is. Again, if you never heard of Princess Diana, or Elvis or Paul McCartney or Mohamed Ali, you are living under a narrow minded rock.

Anna Sewell is the Author of Black Beauty. She was one of the first people to voice her opinion on cruelty to animals for fashion. She died shortly before her mother fought to get her work published, and now Black Beauty is one of the best classic works or literature of all time. Again people, broaden your minds beyond ipods and comic books.

Do any of you even know Steve Irwin is anymore, or did you all forget about him too?

Ecto Jedi
09-02-2007, 09:40 PM
Anna Sewell is the Author of Black Beauty. She was one of the first people to voice her opinion on cruelty to animals for fashion. She died shortly before her mother fought to get her work published, and now Black Beauty is one of the best classic works or literature of all time. Again people, broaden your minds beyond ipods and comic books.

Sorry, but I don't read girlie books.

Raph's Girl
09-02-2007, 10:21 PM
Anna Sewell is the Author of Black Beauty. She was one of the first people to voice her opinion on cruelty to animals for fashion. She died shortly before her mother fought to get her work published, and now Black Beauty is one of the best classic works or literature of all time. Again people, broaden your minds beyond ipods and comic books.

Do any of you even know Steve Irwin is anymore, or did you all forget about him too?

Oh man!! I LOVE Black Beauty!! One of my fave horse stories next to the Chincotegue books and the Black and Red Stallion books. :D

Of course I know who Steve Irwin is...heck Animal Planet's doing Croc Week in his honor all this week starting tonight with his movie. :P

As for Princess Diana. She wasn't a commoner who married into royalty! She was born into royalty (the house of Stuart)!! On her father's side (he was a Viscount and later an Earl) she's descended from King Charles II, King James II, Robert the Bruce, Vlad the Impaler, ect
Im honored to be distantly related to Princess Diana.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Diana#Royal_descent

ZariusTwo
09-02-2007, 11:28 PM
Do any of you even know Steve Irwin is anymore, or did you all forget about him too?


Rather mock him for being an indegnatious dickwad who endangered his children and ultimatley took himself from his family.

And if you honestly think the photographers contributed to Diana's death, you have no say on who to call "narrow minded"

The Stryker
09-03-2007, 03:32 AM
Rather mock him for being an indegnatious dickwad who endangered his children and ultimatley took himself from his family.

And if you honestly think the photographers contributed to Diana's death, you have no say on who to call "narrow minded"

I love you Zarius.

Warhorse
09-03-2007, 07:56 PM
Rather mock him for being an indegnatious dickwad who endangered his children and ultimatley took himself from his family.

And if you honestly think the photographers contributed to Diana's death, you have no say on who to call "narrow minded"

No wonder why you have a warning on you!

The photographers did contribute to her death, they chased after her. If I had someone chasing me, I would sped like hell to get away from them. I wouldn't know what those people's true intentions were. They could've been hitman for all anyone knew. Unfortunately, as fate would have it, the car crashed into a wall. But instead of helping the people in the crash, the heartless photographers took photos of her dying, and even published them. To me, that's sickening with what they did.

ANd if I want to call out people for being narrow minded, who are you to say that I have no say on it, and better yet, what exactly can you do about it? Nothing but deal with my opinions that I think most of today's youth don't exactly go out of their way to broaden their minds and horizons.

Anyone recall who Buzz Aldrin is? What about Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay? The Wright Brothers? Sea Biscuit or Walter Farley?

Ecto Jedi
09-03-2007, 08:07 PM
Anyone recall who Buzz Aldrin is? What about Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay? The Wright Brothers? Sea Biscuit or Walter Farley?

Yes, no and no, yes, great movie and was he the dude in Beverly Hills Ninja?

Cure
09-03-2007, 08:08 PM
Anyone recall who Buzz Aldrin is? What about Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay? The Wright Brothers? Sea Biscuit or Walter Farley?

That's some high horse you're on, thinking you're better than people just because you can pull random people's (and a horse's...wow) names out your ass.

Do you know Earl Simmons? Curtis Jackson? Christopher Wallace? Marshall Mathers? How about Steve Rogers? Scott Summers? Ororo Munroe? Pietro Maximoff? Just because YOU know those people doesn't mean anything.

Peanut
09-03-2007, 08:21 PM
Yo, Warhorse...people die, dude. Just because they were in the public spotlight doesn't mean f*ck all. Do you know the names of even four soldiers who fought in any of the World Wars? Because those people are a hell of a lot more important than Steve Irwin or Princess Diana, yet they're all f*cking forgotten about.

Who gives a sh*t who wrote a book, or sung popular songs?

Ecto Jedi
09-03-2007, 08:24 PM
Yo, Warhorse...people die, dude. Just because they were in the public spotlight doesn't mean f*ck all. Do you know the names of even four soldiers who fought in any of the World Wars? Because those people are a hell of a lot more important than Steve Irwin or Princess Diana, yet they're all f*cking forgotten about.

Who gives a sh*t who wrote a book, or sung popular songs?

He makes a valid point. Glad you're back, Peanut.

Raph's Girl
09-03-2007, 08:44 PM
Anyone recall who Buzz Aldrin is? What about Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay? The Wright Brothers? Sea Biscuit or Walter Farley?

Buzz Aldrin - Astronaut and Senator
Edmund Hillary - Climbed a mountain, Hillary Clinton was named after him
The Wright Brothers - Airplane dudes
Sea Biscuit - Loved the movie
Walter Farley - I have ALL the books in the Black Stallion series and even the movies (3 have been made, plus a tv series). Altho I know that Young Black Stallion was co-written by his son since he died before it could be published.

No clue who Tenzing Norgay is....

Warhorse
09-03-2007, 09:36 PM
Yo, Warhorse...people die, dude. Just because they were in the public spotlight doesn't mean f*ck all. Do you know the names of even four soldiers who fought in any of the World Wars? Because those people are a hell of a lot more important than Steve Irwin or Princess Diana, yet they're all f*cking forgotten about.

Who gives a sh*t who wrote a book, or sung popular songs?


Actually, almost my entire family was wiped out in World War 1. Only about 5out of 700 made it to the United States in one piece. The rest are lost in the concentration camps, or killed on the fields. I would loose another good portion of my family in Vietnam.

Some of the names lost in World War 2, 3/4 of the Keller and Kellerman family, 1/2 of the Barone family. All but 1 of the Kursinski family was wiped out. They were spies for the United States and Brittish Military, spying on the Germans. They were caught by Hitler's henchmen, and all except one girl, Bobshi Kursinski, were slaughtered.

In Vietnam, lost several uncles and countless cousins, mostly Barones, Eddingtons, and one Wilkes. One Barone was shot down in a helicopter, and would have severe brain damage for the rest of his life. I met him when I was 14, and since then, I have volunteered at the local VA hospital twice a week.

My family to this day is still a pretty die hard, firearm bearing miltary loving bunch. Heck, I have a cousin that is a girl flying helicopters for the Army in the Iraq right now. Jillian Pheonix to be exact. I have another cousin that is on an undeployed Battleship out in California.

But that aside, yes, I can name several soldiers, from World War 2 to now. Unfortunately, you would have never heard of them like you would know Jessica Lynch and Lori Piestewa, Mike Durant, Gary Gordan and Randy Shughart, just to name a few more known named soldiers.

Buzz Aldrin - Astronaut and Senator
Edmund Hillary - Climbed a mountain, Hillary Clinton was named after him
The Wright Brothers - Airplane dudes
Sea Biscuit - Loved the movie
Walter Farley - I have ALL the books in the Black Stallion series and even the movies (3 have been made, plus a tv series). Altho I know that Young Black Stallion was co-written by his son since he died before it could be published.

No clue who Tenzing Norgay is....

Thanks for not being so nasty. Tenzing Norgay accompanied Edmund Hillary on his clib to Moutn Everest. I'm used to calling them both at the same time, that's all.

And I love Walter Farley's work. I would love it if they turned The Black Stallion mystery and The Island Stallion into a movie.

Sea Biscuit, I know is a movie now, but I'm a big horse fanantic and knew about him long before that. Did you know that the actor who rode Sea Biscuit in the match race is a real jockey, and rode the horse Winning Colors to her Kentucky Derby victory, the third filly ever to do so. I thought that was kind of a cute trivia.

Also, a bit of more trivia on Sea Biscuit, you know how the real jockey was Georgie Wolf (The Iceman) that is the same jockey Henry Daily is mentioning to Alec in the Black Stallion movie when he asked if Henry knew any famous or really good jockeys. Small world this is!

That's some high horse you're on, thinking you're better than people just because you can pull random people's (and a horse's...wow) names out your ass.

Do you know Earl Simmons? Curtis Jackson? Christopher Wallace? Marshall Mathers? How about Steve Rogers? Scott Summers? Ororo Munroe? Pietro Maximoff? Just because YOU know those people doesn't mean anything.

First four are rappers, I've got two albums from mister Slim Shady himself. Which Steve Rogers are you talking about, there are several, and the others are comic book characters. Not familiar with Pietro Maximoff, but Ororo is Storm and Scott is Cyclopse.
John Allerdyce is Pyro and Logan is Wolverine, in case you wanted to know. ;)

Ecto Jedi
09-03-2007, 10:20 PM
First four are rappers, I've got two albums from mister Slim Shady himself. Which Steve Rogers are you talking about, there are several, and the others are comic book characters. Not familiar with Pietro Maximoff, but Ororo is Storm and Scott is Cyclopse.
John Allerdyce is Pyro and Logan is Wolverine, in case you wanted to know. ;)

I think you're missing the point.

Peanut
09-03-2007, 10:27 PM
Yeah, he completely missed it.

Raph's Girl
09-03-2007, 10:33 PM
Also, a bit of more trivia on Sea Biscuit, you know how the real jockey was Georgie Wolf (The Iceman) that is the same jockey Henry Daily is mentioning to Alec in the Black Stallion movie when he asked if Henry knew any famous or really good jockeys. Small world this is!


Further Trivia on Seabiscuit (it was mentioned very briefly at the end of the movie). His grandsire was Man O' War!! Walter Farley wrote a book about him (so did William Shatner). His sire (Seabiscuit's) , Hard Tack, was in a Porky Pig cartoon.

Have u ever been to Chincotegue/Assateague?? I'd love to go there someday just to see the descendents of Misty (she was a real horse). Marguerite Henry is another of my fave horse authors (she died 10 years ago).

As for naming WWII soldiers... My father's father faught in WWII. He was on Normandy Beach on D. Day (I've since been to Normandy Beach). My mom's dad was in the Korean war.

Pietro Maximoff is Quicksilver. A son of Magneto.

Warhorse
09-03-2007, 10:44 PM
SHE! I am a SHE! And no, I'm not missing the point. It's just I don't retort to being vicious on a forum. I find the lighter approach to be more appealing, especially when dealing with hot opinions.

I'm just a bit bewildered that some people aren't as informed in some things, that's all. Perhaps I take things for granted, and realize people just dont have the interest, or we are in a different time than we were 10 years ago. But still, 10 years ago is not that far off to forget something that was plastered on every news channel or every news paper. It's not my fault I remember this stuff, and I can't help voicing my shock that people jsut didn't know who someone was. And not once was I nasty about it, I thought I was pretty civilized about the whole thing! I jsut plastered up those random names to see if those individuals, some of them very important in our history, has slipped the minds of the modern age. Amazing what you could learn just by skimming your local newspaper once a day.

Further Trivia on Seabiscuit (it was mentioned very briefly at the end of the movie). His grandsire was Man O' War!! Walter Farley wrote a book about him (so did William Shatner). His sire (Seabiscuit's) , Hard Tack, was in a Porky Pig cartoon.

Have u ever been to Chincotegue/Assateague?? I'd love to go there someday just to see the descendents of Misty (she was a real horse). Marguerite Henry is another of my fave horse authors (she died 10 years ago).

As for naming WWII soldiers... My father's father faught in WWII. He was on Normandy Beach on D. Day (I've since been to Normandy Beach). My mom's dad was in the Korean war.

Pietro Maximoff is Quicksilver. A son of Magneto.

War Admiral was son of Man O War, right! Funny how those things happen.

I have never been to Chincoteague, but I so want to go for Pony Penning Day thanks to Marguerite Henry's books. I personally loved her Sea Star, Orphan of Chincoteague the best.

Did your Grandfather survive Normandy Beach? (I get horrified jsut thinking what those soldiers went through to over take that beach.) How did you're mother's dad fare in the Korean war? That war I'm not as familiar with as WW and Vietnam.

Peanut
09-03-2007, 10:58 PM
SHE! I am a SHE! And no, I'm not missing the point. It's just I don't retort to being vicious on a forum. I find the lighter approach to be more appealing, especially when dealing with hot opinions.

I'm just a bit bewildered that some people aren't as informed in some things, that's all. Perhaps I take things for granted, and realize people just dont have the interest, or we are in a different time than we were 10 years ago. But still, 10 years ago is not that far off to forget something that was plastered on every news channel or every news paper. It's not my fault I remember this stuff, and I can't help voicing my shock that people jsut didn't know who someone was. And not once was I nasty about it, I thought I was pretty civilized about the whole thing! I jsut plastered up those random names to see if those individuals, some of them very important in our history, has slipped the minds of the modern age. Amazing what you could learn just by skimming your local newspaper once a day.

What you have to realize is that not everyone is the same age as you. There are people here who were only 4 or 5 years old 10 years ago. The comings and goings of people like Princess Diana aren't things that greatly impacted world history, so younger kids aren't going to remember that stuff.

No one born in the next year and beyond is going to know who the hell Steve Irwin is, not unless they're introduced to him by someone else. See my point?

And I apologize for calling you a dude. A name like Warhorse tends cause one to lean in that direction.;)

Raph's Girl
09-03-2007, 11:26 PM
War Admiral was son of Man O War, right! Funny how those things happen.

Did your Grandfather survive Normandy Beach? (I get horrified jsut thinking what those soldiers went through to over take that beach.) How did you're mother's dad fare in the Korean war? That war I'm not as familiar with as WW and Vietnam.

Man O War (who lived for 30 years) sired War Relic, Hard Tack, American Flag, Crusader, War Admiral, and Battleship.

Yep My grandpa survived Normandy beach (which stinks to high heaven at low tide cuz of all the rotting war stuff still there) My dad has all the medals he got. He died before I was born tho of a heart attack (complications from lung cancer). My other grandpa was in Korea during the war but never faught. But I have ancestors that have died in war. I had 2 that faught and died at the Battle of New Orleans in the war of 1812.

Warhorse
09-03-2007, 11:42 PM
Man O War (who lived for 30 years) sired War Relic, Hard Tack, American Flag, Crusader, War Admiral, and Battleship.

Yep My grandpa survived Normandy beach (which stinks to high heaven at low tide cuz of all the rotting war stuff still there) My dad has all the medals he got. He died before I was born tho of a heart attack (complications from lung cancer). My other grandpa was in Korea during the war but never faught. But I have ancestors that have died in war. I had 2 that faught and died at the Battle of New Orleans in the war of 1812.

Wow, 1812, your family was here a long time. How long have they been here? I don't know anything past WW 1. My heritage was German, Polish and Italian, they opposed the communist control and paid a heavy price for it.

I couldn't even begin to imagine what it would be like to walk near Normandy. I get chills just passing graveyards in my city, my subconscience mind would be going beserk if I visited Normandy. They still have sunk boats and tanks still down in the waters, right?

War, just awful stuff. And I don't think it'll ever end. Probably get worse.

My mom's dad was part of the U.S. Navy, and his boat had left Pearl Harbor for San Diego the day before the attacks. Weird how that stuff works out.

PS. Aren't the great racing duel of 1978 related to Man O War, you know, Affirmed and Alydar (strange enough, the last American Triple Crown to be won would be the year I was born, maybe it's fate!;)

What you have to realize is that not everyone is the same age as you. There are people here who were only 4 or 5 years old 10 years ago. The comings and goings of people like Princess Diana aren't things that greatly impacted world history, so younger kids aren't going to remember that stuff.

No one born in the next year and beyond is going to know who the hell Steve Irwin is, not unless they're introduced to him by someone else. See my point?

And I apologize for calling you a dude. A name like Warhorse tends cause one to lean in that direction.;)

No problem about the dude part. It's not the first time, but I've been nicknamed Warhorse since I was 10, and I grew to like the name. I don't know where else to highlight on my profile I'm a chica!

Maybe I am the odd ball out after all. After I think about it, when I was ten, I was the only one who could name all of the Beatles, and knew their songs by heart, but that's just because my folks were Beatle fanantics! It's what I grew up with. But I honestly dont know anything about comics unless it was in a movie, which is probably why I dont know anything about Magneto's son, since he hasn't been introduced to the movies yet. So I don't know everything, and if you were to ask me a complex arithmetic problem, forget it, I'll look at you like a deer caught in the head lights! I admit it, I have poor mathematic skills, I'm sure kids today, in fact, I know kids today will run circles around me with their trigonometry knowledge.

Leogeddon
09-03-2007, 11:58 PM
yeh, doesn't feel like that it's been 10 years
but ehhh.... sucks how she died, she was so young. :(

Sewer Bull
09-04-2007, 01:37 AM
Jesus. Why the hell has this thread turned out to shooting your opponents with random celebrities' names and trying to guess them, eh? Shouldn't we, like, praise Diana's memory in here or something?

Knowing a lot of names doesn't mean you know a lot in general. Or that your general knowledge is deep. It might be pretty shallow if based on received wisdom, gossips or fairy tales. Like in this case:


Princess Diana was a common girl who married into royalty. She used her connections to help out the poor countries, kind of what Anglina Jolie does. She may have questionable relationships, but she is at least trying to help out the orphans in third world countries.

Raph's Girl has already mentioned the case of her 'common girl' status. I'd like to point out something else. Seriously, all I heard about her charity work that could be associated with any helping out the poor countries and their orphans was only that landmine project, that she engaged in after her divorce with Charles (so, it took her about a year or something).

Not that it's not a lot and I don't really want to depreciate her merits or judge her whole life, but damn - I started wondering whether you really know what that woman did, since you threw such a Cinderella-esque vision of her life and charity work - and mentioned those 'poor countries' and "the orphans in the third world countries' and compared her efforts to Angelina Jolie's.


and now Black Beauty is one of the best classic works or literature of all time. Again people, broaden your minds beyond ipods and comic books.

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The good news is - I know this book.

The bad news is - if you really think it is "one of the best classic works of literature of all time", then I'm afraid you are the one in need of broadening your own mind.

Ra
09-04-2007, 01:53 AM
...my lock senses are tingling... *sighs*

You know, instead of flaming everyone over random trivia of popular culture, could we like...I don't know...PAY RESPECT TO THE DEAD? Really, I just hate it when things like this happen. It just gets people all fired up over their beliefs, values, and whatever the hell we like or dislike about the world and celebrities today.

Which has pretty much nothing to do with the topic.

Rather mock him for being an indegnatious dickwad who endangered his children and ultimatley took himself from his family.
Thanks Zarius. After reading this comment yesterday I felt like I had been kicked in the groin and my heart run through with a spear. Steve was one of my idols as a kid. He may have been an idiot to you, but he was our idiot, thanks. Good day to you, sir.

Raph's Girl
09-04-2007, 03:29 PM
Wow, 1812, your family was here a long time. How long have they been here? I don't know anything past WW 1. My heritage was German, Polish and Italian, they opposed the communist control and paid a heavy price for it.

I couldn't even begin to imagine what it would be like to walk near Normandy. They still have sunk boats and tanks still down in the waters, right?

On my dad's side I have Native American ancestry so that side's been in America since the ice ages. :lol: On my mom's side....since the 1500's. Im descended from one of the men who baught Manhatten (I've read there were 12 all together) island for a bunch of beads from the Native Americans.

Bit of a trivia: Harlem was the original Dutch colony. It was named after the town in the Netherlands, which changed it's name from Harlem to Haarlem. Ironically Haarlem is the top producer of chocolate in Europe. :lol:

Genealogy is fun. My grandparents are professional genealogists and Im one as well (altho not a professional). Im always helping people with their genealogy and Im currently putting mine online. I've found several links to Princess Diana on my tree without even looking for em. Always happens. I find a link to some celebrity while Im looking for something else. *lol* Or I find some obscure link to a comic book character (Im related to the real Peter Parker)...my links to the TMNT are fun tho (IE related to one of the founders of Northampton, MA :lol: )

As for Normandy. Yes it's very eerily quiet. But if ya ever do go there and go to the beach bring a gas mask cuz MAN it stinks worse than a skunk! There's tents and stuff still on the beach from WWII and it's rotting away. It's covered most of the time by the ocean but if you go at low tide you can see it. There's also a ship that's stranded on the beach like a whale. It's got this HUGE gaping hole in it. One of these days I'll have to scan the pics we took.

Warhorse
09-05-2007, 09:16 PM
On my dad's side I have Native American ancestry so that side's been in America since the ice ages. :lol: On my mom's side....since the 1500's. Im descended from one of the men who baught Manhatten (I've read there were 12 all together) island for a bunch of beads from the Native Americans.

Bit of a trivia: Harlem was the original Dutch colony. It was named after the town in the Netherlands, which changed it's name from Harlem to Haarlem. Ironically Haarlem is the top producer of chocolate in Europe. :lol:

You're bad! ;)

Genealogy is fun. My grandparents are professional genealogists and Im one as well (altho not a professional). Im always helping people with their genealogy and Im currently putting mine online. I've found several links to Princess Diana on my tree without even looking for em. Always happens. I find a link to some celebrity while Im looking for something else. *lol* Or I find some obscure link to a comic book character (Im related to the real Peter Parker)...my links to the TMNT are fun tho (IE related to one of the founders of Northampton, MA :lol: )

I didn't even know people actually put their personal geneologies online. So, while my family says that all of my decendants that didn't make it to the U.S. are dead, how likely you think that would be the case? How common are the names Barone in Italy, Kersinski in Poland, and Keller in German?

The Barones on my family now, are now part of a Canadian/Italian mob that runs the Niagra Falls border. Frankie Barone and his wife Angel Barone (who is my first cousin on my dad's side) run the operation. Nice ties that I got, huh!;)

As for Normandy. Yes it's very eerily quiet. But if ya ever do go there and go to the beach bring a gas mask cuz MAN it stinks worse than a skunk! There's tents and stuff still on the beach from WWII and it's rotting away. It's covered most of the time by the ocean but if you go at low tide you can see it. There's also a ship that's stranded on the beach like a whale. It's got this HUGE gaping hole in it. One of these days I'll have to scan the pics we took.

Do you think the stuff is left on Normandy Beach as some sort of rememberance, or are people afraid to disturb the area or something?

Also, are you into horse racing, or horses all together? I'm a huge horse nut!:evilgrin:

The Stryker
09-05-2007, 10:53 PM
Uh...yeah, sorry to break up that very interesting back and forth but how about that Diana huh?