DBZ Movie: Here We Go Again [Archive] - The Technodrome Forums

09-01-2007, 07:06 PM

Nappa: Vegeta, how many times have they tried to greenlight this movie past pre-production?
Vegeta: It's...over NINE THOUSAND!!!!!!!!!!!!! *smash*

You know it had to be done.

Really, How many times has this happened. Five? Ten? Even more? As a kid I would have loved to see a live-action DBZ movie. Now, after so many failed attempts...who cares? We've had some glorious animated movies from the franchise. Why aren't we happy with that? Then again, that's a stupid question. This is Hollywood we are talking about, after all...

But that being said...if it's made, I'll probably go and see it. I've been waiting for this movie for years, so I guess it will satisfy the child within me that never got to see the movie she wanted.

Mecha Cow

09-01-2007, 07:09 PM

It would be entertaining, and I'd say that's exactly what movies are meant to do.

Raph's Girl

09-01-2007, 07:54 PM

The Japanese did a live action Dragonball Z type movie called Dragon Pearls....it had the worst CGI I had ever seen. :lol:

Love the description:

It tells the story of an alien sent to destroy Earth, who has a change of heart and decides to join the humans in their fight against various aliens and bad guys.

A change of heart??? Is that what they're calling amnesia now??:roll:

Ya know who they can get to play Vegeta??

This guy! ---> http://www.bellonock.com/indexdu.html

He's already got the hair... :lol:

AquaParade

09-01-2007, 08:09 PM

I never knew such a movie was made, but you prompted me to google it, and thought some of you might find this....uhh...interesting:thumbsup:

http://i15.tinypic.com/4372qev.jpg

Drtooth

09-01-2007, 08:17 PM

And thats not remotley what movies are meant to do (see some dated little franchise realized as a s*itty movie)

Like Underdog, Inspector Gadget......

Funimation.... if you WANT to make DBZ movies, just release the damn ones you already had into more than 3 theaters nationwide. I'm sure that it would make more money and not just waste a crap load of cash to produce.

And make a new dub of "Curse of the Blood Rubies" while you're at it. Release it as a Double bill with one of the One Piece films.

09-01-2007, 08:20 PM

I never knew such a movie was made, but you prompted me to google it, and thought some of you might find this....uhh...interesting

http://i15.tinypic.com/4372qev.jpg
Well...err...at least Master Roshi looks okay... :|

ZariusTwo

09-01-2007, 08:35 PM

It would be entertaining, and I'd say that's exactly what movies are meant to do.

You dont know what a movie is. You said yourself you expect the movie to be abysmal, yet you now say such a collosal waste of money, time, actors, and resources would be "entertaining?" in some morbid laugh at Hollywood's expense?

Whenever you decide your posts want to make some semblence of cohearant SENSE, come back to this thread.

Mecha Cow

09-01-2007, 08:50 PM

You dont know what a movie is. You said yourself you expect the movie to be abysmal, yet you now say such a collosal waste of money, time, actors, and resources would be "entertaining?" in some morbid laugh at Hollywood's expense?

Whenever you decide your posts want to make some semblence of cohearant SENSE, come back to this thread.

Look pumpkin, I know this might be hard for an elitist joker like yourself to imagine, but it is actually possible to enjoy 'bad' movies. It's Dragon Ball Z. It was never 'good' to begin with (Do you really want to argue about this?). Of-f*cking-course a movie adaption is going to be 'bad', but that doesn't mean it won't be fun, just like the series.

I know exactly what a movie is, buddy. It's you that seems to have forgotten.

Raph's Girl

09-01-2007, 09:01 PM

Well...err...at least Master Roshi looks okay... :|

Master Roshi was the BEST thing in that movie!!

The CGI on the dragon is just HORRIBLE...even for 1989 standards. It's an ok film...there are subtle changes in the plot here and there (Goku's not an alien but a descendent of the Monkey King), Grandpa Gohan is killed by the bad guy, ect

I saw this in the original Japanese (with Subtitles) a couple years ago on tv.

Aelia

09-01-2007, 09:39 PM

Weird. I'd like to get my hands on this 1989 live-action movie.

As for a Hollywood live-action movie...I'd rather not. Not because it's destined to be terrible, but because I'm content with the already numerous animated films.

Barkworm

09-02-2007, 03:09 AM

The Japanese did a live action Dragonball Z type movie called Dragon Pearls....it had the worst CGI I had ever seen. :lol:
Wasn't that movie from Hong Kong or Taiwan?

GK Punk

09-02-2007, 03:32 AM

Yeah, it wasn't Japanese nor official.

Raph's Girl

09-02-2007, 11:55 AM

Yeah, it wasn't Japanese nor official.

Yea... it was Chinese... But you gotta remember that the story Dragonball is based on (Journey to the West) originated in China and in Dragonpearl the characters are descended from the Journey to the West characters. So it's sorta a sequel to Journey to the West. Which I like. I LOVE the Journey to the west story (I managed to find me a copy at a used book store years ago) and that's really the only reason I started watching Dragonball/Z/GT in the first place.

Anarchistguy

09-02-2007, 01:40 PM

I'm sorry, I'm a huge Dragon Ball fan, but I honestly can't see this working...I just CAN'T. Sure I was wrong about Transformers, but I'm pretty sure this will be TERRIBLE...and I'm being optimistic, here.

On another note, there are already THIRTEEN DBZ movies...isn't that enough???!!

DrSpengler

09-02-2007, 02:21 PM

I'm sorry, I'm a huge Dragon Ball fan, but I honestly can't see this working...I just CAN'T. Sure I was wrong about Transformers, but I'm pretty sure without a doubt this will be TERRIBLE...and I'm being optimistic, here.

On another note, there are already THIRTEEN DBZ movies...isn't that enough???!!

The proper count is, what...

3 Dragonball movies

1 Dragonball Anniversary movie

1 Dragonball live action movie

13 Dragonball Z movies

2 Dragonball Z TV movies

1 Dragonball GT TV movie

Dragonball Z is a guilty pleasure of mine. I've reviewed most of the movies over at Filmsy and I own all of them (I prefer the movies over the TV series because they're more condensed). A big-budget live action film would be terribly hard to pull off but I'd be there opening day no matter what.

As far as filming in Montreal goes, 300 was also filmed there on a lot entirely within the confines of a blue screen environment. I imagine DBZ would be done in a similar way.

Raph's Girl

09-02-2007, 06:21 PM

1 Dragonball GT TV movie

The DBGT movie is is about Goku Jr ,the great-great-grandson of Goku. He lives with his grandmother, Pan. It's never mentioned what happened to his parents tho. He's basically a wimp but Goku's spirit helps him along a bit. It's a pretty good film. Saw the subbed version on tv (gods Im glad I have a channel that showed DB/Z/GT unedited) a couple years back.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Hero%27s_Legacy

Goku Jr is seen briefly fighting Vegeta Jr in the final ep of DBGT but A Hero's Legacy is how Goku Jr gained courage.

Drtooth

09-02-2007, 07:17 PM

Look pumpkin, I know this might be hard for an elitist joker like yourself to imagine, but it is actually possible to enjoy 'bad' movies. It's Dragon Ball Z. It was never 'good' to begin with (Do you really want to argue about this?). Of-f*cking-course a movie adaption is going to be 'bad', but that doesn't mean it won't be fun, just like the series.

I can only enjoy a bad film if it contains "plan 9 from" in the title, or Leslie Nielsen is involved in anyway. And Don't call me Shirley!

I REALLY don't want to see this happen. i'd rather like to see the Chinese film instead. It's much funnier sounding.

And why if they need to make this a movie can't they just make it all CGI? it took them 2 Garfield Live action films to realize people just want to see a straightforward animated version.

gobo

09-03-2007, 12:52 AM

Drtooth

09-03-2007, 08:34 AM

How many of the DragonBall animated so-called movies exceeded an hour? Even though I know they were meant to be movies, I can't think of a 45-minute feature that's in continuity with the series as a movie. And, I certainly wouldn't buy a full-price movie ticket for less than 75 minutes.

They'd probably put them as they were intended to be, a double or triple bill. What we Americans DON'T have that the Japanese have is a bill of multiple animated movies. For example, I once saw a youtube posted commercial for a triple feature of Ultimate Muscle, Digimon, and something Else I forgot. So, naturally they only have the rights to release the movies they have the rights to the shows to in the first place on DVD.

They could clearly put a bunch of them together as a special feature.

But when you make a live action cartoon, you either remain faithful to the original product, and stray off on some small tangent that ruins the film (Bullwinkle) or toss everything out the window and make something for a target demographic that doesn't care about it, while alienating the fan base (Underdog). Either way, you're not making the Flintstones 1 here, which was the only one that actually did well.

gobo

09-03-2007, 06:42 PM

Forgot to say: if those 45-minute DB features are to be called movies, why isn't "PLANET OF THE TURTLOIDS" considered a movie? It's also just a double-length episode. This is a case of having your cake and trying to eat it too. The short DB features may be movies in Japan, but they're just specials outside of Japan. Only anime purists insist otherwise.

Raph's Girl

09-03-2007, 08:46 PM

Forgot to say: if those 45-minute DB features are to be called movies, why isn't "PLANET OF THE TURTLOIDS" considered a movie?

Imdb.com lists Planet of the Turtleoids as a movie. I always thought of it as a movie *shrugs*

Krang

09-04-2007, 01:46 AM

How many of the DragonBall animated so-called movies exceeded an hour?
There were at least a few that were 60 minutes or more, but you're right, most of them were around 45-50 minutes.

Forgot to say: if those 45-minute DB features are to be called movies, why isn't "PLANET OF THE TURTLOIDS" considered a movie? It's also just a double-length episode. This is a case of having your cake and trying to eat it too. The short DB features may be movies in Japan, but they're just specials outside of Japan. Only anime purists insist otherwise.
I guess it just depends on what they are marketed as. The DBZ movies were marketed as movies in Japan and were aired in theaters, so they are generally considered to be movies (although they could also be seen as specials). Planet of the Turtleoids was marketed as a TV special and was aired in prime time as one, so it is generally considered to be a special (although it could also be seen as a movie or even as a two-part episode).

GK Punk

09-04-2007, 01:51 AM

And let's also keep in mind that In Japan, several movies are released that are only a half hour long.

DrSpengler

09-04-2007, 09:06 AM

tinlunlau

09-05-2007, 04:56 AM

Wu Jing would make a good Goku.
He's in his early 30's (which is around the same age as Goku was during most of the DBZ series), he's friendly-looking, fights really well and trained in chinese wushu. For those not in the know, check him out in "SPL" (retitled as "Kill Zone" in the US).

Drtooth

09-05-2007, 10:25 AM

Yeah, its all marketing.

In Japan, they actually took episodes of Beast Wars and showed them in theaters as "movies". The first one was "Bad Spark" shown alongside a new 45 minute Beast Wars II short film, while the second was "The Cutting Edge" shown alongside two other short films based on Takara toy properties (Microman and Super Doll Rikka-chan).

They were just normal episodes of the TV series, shown on TV in the US with absolutely nothing special about them. But in Japan, they've considered "movies" because they were shown in theaters.

And a lot of the time, these films just retell something that already happened. I.e Curse of the Blood Rubies was an alternate version of how Goku met Bulma and the rest, Magical Journey was a retelling of the Tao Pai Pai saga.... They have 2 One Piece movies that are just retellings of other plot lines coming out.

Kendamu

09-11-2007, 09:19 PM

How many of the DragonBall animated so-called movies exceeded an hour? Even though I know they were meant to be movies, I can't think of a 45-minute feature that's in continuity with the series as a movie. And, I certainly wouldn't buy a full-price movie ticket for less than 75 minutes.

For the movie, are they still talking Jackie Chan? I always thought that was the dumbest idea. Supposing they do a faithful adaptation (which I kinda' doubt), the majority of the fighting isn't hand-to-hand anyway. Chan's talents would be totally wasted.

They're not in continuity, though. They take things from continuity, but they don't quite fit right if you actually look at them compared to the series itself. At least with the two DBZ TV specials you can see that they're in continuity. This is especially true with the Trunks special as it's actually an extended version of a mini-chapter of the manga.

Drtooth

09-12-2007, 11:30 AM

Did anyone read what I posted about how they basically just retell things in an alternate universe of what happened? None of the movies of any anime that I know of really are ment to have a continuity. There may be some, but unless the script is written by the original manga-kas and it actually happened in the original story (which it never is on both counts) it isn't supposed to have continuity.

Drtooth

10-04-2007, 12:55 PM

http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=19169
CHUD.com has learned from a casting notice that was sent out that James Wong has been slated to write and direct a live-action theatrical version of Dragon Ball Z, a Japanese animated series based off of Japanese comic writer Akira Toriyama's Dragon Ball comic. The film is slated to begin filming in Montreal this November.

Raph's Girl

11-08-2007, 08:25 PM

From Toonzone:

http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=19709

Under director James Wong, 85% of the live action Dragon Ball Z motion picture will be shot in Durango, Mexico. Expected to film in 2008, the film's FX director is Ariel Shaw.

Mecha Cow

11-14-2007, 12:31 PM

Worst casting ever (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117975946.html?categoryid=13&cs=1&nid=2562)? :lol:

gobo

11-14-2007, 12:49 PM

There've been worse. And, with the bleak expectation from the DB-fans, I'm surprised it's not worse.

Raph's Girl

11-14-2007, 01:14 PM

OMG!! James Marsters is Piccolo?! :o

That is just TOO funny!!! I have a crush on both Piccolo and James Marsters so it's a win win for me!

Justin Chatwin is cute too!

Drtooth

11-14-2007, 01:18 PM

Worst casting ever (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117975946.html?categoryid=13&cs=1&nid=2562)? :lol:

hey! As long as Will Smith isn't anywhere near the damn film, I'll sleep better tonight.

But all and all, still a stupid idea as far as movies go.

ZariusTwo

11-14-2007, 02:18 PM

OMG!! James Marsters is Piccolo?! :o

That is just TOO funny!!! I have a crush on both Piccolo and James Marsters so it's a win win for me!!

(Ugh), darned rule 32...

AquaParade

11-21-2007, 12:12 PM

To be directed by James Wong, and produced by Stephen Chow. I'm sure most of you have heard the news, and I was kinda surprised there was'nt a thread on it yet. Justin Chatwin(War of the Worlds) is playing Goku, and James Masters( Buggy the Vampire Slayer) will be playing Piccolo. Also, 85% will be shot in Mexico. I dont have a direct link to anything, but if you feel like checking up on it, just go look at the shh boards. Plenty of people discussing it on there.

I have'nt been that into Dragon Ball Z since I was a kid. And personally, I really only enjoyed the characters, and hated the pacing. But I'm anxious to see this, as I envision it being either the next "transformers" or a complete(although hilarious) disaster.

Mecha Cow

11-21-2007, 12:23 PM

There is (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=21586) a thread on it.

AquaParade

11-21-2007, 01:04 PM

aw...bummer. I was proud of my little thread:(

Raph's Girl

11-22-2007, 03:03 PM

Casting calls are now going out for some more characters. Mainly ChiChi and somebody named Agundes.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Scoop-Dragonball-Z-Character-Details-6987.html

CHI CHI - Asian, 20. Goku’s lifelong love interest, Chi Chi is an attractive, tom boy-ish young woman who has grown up with Goku. She has studied martial arts and has always suspected that Goku possesses talents that are unusual and extraordinary. After Goku embarks on his journey to redeem his grandfather’s death, Chi Chi meets up with Goku and his crew at a tournament of champions where their mutual attraction finally heats up during a training session.

AGUNDES - Latino, he is a large and hulking gargantuan, over 6 feet tall. Late teens-early 20s to play senior in high school, Carey Fuller's sidekick, a big football player and a bigger bully; must be athletic - has a fight scene...2 scenes.

Oh goody.. a world martial arts tournament....:sleep:

AquaParade

11-22-2007, 03:05 PM

Casting calls are now going out for some more characters. Mainly ChiChi and somebody named Agundes.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Scoop-Dragonball-Z-Character-Details-6987.html

Oh goody.. a world martial arts tournament....:sleep:

They're only staying true to the material...one of the only examples of them really doing that so far...:-?

The part that bugs me, is romance found during a training session...cmon...

ZariusTwo

11-22-2007, 05:02 PM

I think it fits, Chi-Chi is maintained as a childhood sweetheart, it's just Goku wont be thinking sex is a food like he thought a marraige was a "food"

Drtooth

11-23-2007, 01:18 PM

Hey, as long as we can get as far away from High School Dragon Ball as possible, I won't complain.

Besides, wasn't a good third of DB tournaments?

11-23-2007, 07:33 PM

Yeah, it was. I honestly don't mind what it's about, as long as the cast can bring the (hopefully good) script to life while maintaining the feeling of the show/manga/fandom/whatever-the-hell-you-want.

AquaParade

12-03-2007, 04:12 PM

Drtooth

12-03-2007, 04:19 PM

Does anyone think that a Dragon Ball Z movie, could possibly reignite the franchise itself?

No! It could possibly kill what little of it we have left. I mean, if we had new action figures or T-Shirts of the characters as they look in animated form, I'd be happy... but that's about it. Too Bad. I really want Funimation to release classic Dragon Ball in Sesaon Sets like they did with DBZ...

AquaParade

12-03-2007, 04:27 PM

I can't see it happening, but woulndt it make a little sense for a company to try and pick this property up and make some kind of new cartoon?

gobo

12-03-2007, 05:00 PM

AquaParade

12-03-2007, 05:54 PM

An American sequel to a Japanese cartoon series, I somehow doubt seriously. But, maybe an animated continuation of the movie, like they did with Street Fighter... And, consider how god-forsaken that movie turned out.

Crazier things have happened. All I'm saying is, I dont see how there would not be a good chance of a company wanting to do something more with this property such as more dtv's or another tv show, if it becomes really popular again. Money is money to the suits, they dont care how strange the ways they make it in are...just look at "My little Pony":lol:.

Spitfire

12-03-2007, 08:25 PM

This is going to be the worst movie that is going to come out that year. It will be so bad I hope the critics rip it apart and use it as an example of how not to make a movie.

I also hope the studio spends tons of cash on it and it bombs so they won't get anymore stupid ideas like this.

Barkworm

12-04-2007, 03:05 AM

Isn't Stephen Chow involved in this? If he directed it, it would be GOLD.

Spitfire

12-04-2007, 03:55 AM

James Wong

Director:

* In Production
* 2000s
* 1990s

1. Dragonball (2008) (pre-production)

2. Final Destination 3 (2006)
... aka Final Destination 3 (Germany)
3. The One (2001)
... aka Jet Li's The One (UK)
4. Final Destination (2000)

5. "The X Files" (1 episode, 1996)
... aka The X-Files (USA)
- Musings of a Cigarette Smoking Man (1996) TV Episode

Jet Li made "The One" watchable that was it.

This guy IS a great writer though, "Millennium" episodes he did were great, and he IS writing this one. That gives it a bit more of a chance.

ZariusTwo

12-04-2007, 05:52 AM

Does anyone think that a Dragon Ball Z movie, could possibly reignite the franchise itself? I mean nothing has really been done with it, since the History of trunks and Bardock movie's(which I thought were two of the best dbz movies ever) But, if the movie is successful, I'm guessing someone out there is gonna wanna make money off the franchise..

DBZ is one of the most overexposed franchises ever, I'd rather this movie bombs and finally rids us of it for a while. If there never going to capatalise on expanding the series, then they dont need to take up the time of more reliable and superior franchises that could be allocated in it's place.

Drtooth

12-04-2007, 10:20 AM

gobo

12-06-2007, 12:36 AM

That was Korean. Also, it failed to be as popular as its immigrant-parent series. I'd imagine that was due to poor exposure (though that's a wild guess).

Anyhow, regarding my previous statements, the Street Fighter cartoon series (the American one, not Japan's Street Fighter II V, which was even better IMO) was what got me interested in the (Van Damn) movie. But, I don't ever plan on watching that film ever again. It's pretty lofty hopes to imagine a similar kick-ass 'toon follow-up to what will almost certainly be a travesty... But, miracles have been known to happen.

ZariusTwo

12-06-2007, 07:30 AM

That was Korean.

Half of American cartoons are animated in Korea.

Spitfire

12-06-2007, 04:24 PM

Half of American cartoons are animated in Korea.

All American cartoons are animated in Korea. Every toon I've watched was, they always talk about it in the special features.

gobo

12-06-2007, 04:53 PM

DrSpengler

12-06-2007, 10:26 PM

I don't doubt that some Disney 'toons (movies and series) were animated overseas. But, I can't imagine they use Korea much, if at all. Anyone know? And, was Winx Club (Italian franchise) animated in Korea too? If so they should probably be ashamed of themselves for how flip-bookish those earliest eps/seasons turned out. Sorry, Michi. :embarass:

These days, Disney primarily uses Toon City (Australia) and Wang Film (Korea) for their television animation and straight to video offerings.

Back in the 90's they used animation studios from all over the world, including Japan and France, but they still outsourced to Korea even back then (Sunwoo did a lot of their shows).

Drtooth

12-07-2007, 10:02 AM

That was Korean. Also, it failed to be as popular as its immigrant-parent series. I'd imagine that was due to poor exposure (though that's a wild guess).

Technicality. By that aspect, no cartoons are American.

I don't doubt that some Disney 'toons (movies and series) were animated overseas. But, I can't imagine they use Korea much, if at all. Anyone know?

On top of that, Disney also had a French animation studio, and a Japanese one (just after they were using TMS services for Ducktales, Gummi Bears, and Rescue Rangers). I believe that Return of Jafar was animated at their Japanese facility.

gobo

12-07-2007, 04:53 PM

The More You Know... ^_^

Anarchistguy

12-08-2007, 07:58 PM

I really want Funimation to release classic Dragon Ball in Sesaon Sets like they did with DBZ...

*Clears throat*

http://www.rightstuf.com/images/large_images/fun04052.jpg

http://www.rightstuf.com/images/large_images/fun04062.jpg

http://www.rightstuf.com/images/large_images/fun04072.jpg

Drtooth

12-09-2007, 10:25 AM

Oh.. you mean the ones that are now out of print, overpriced and hard to find? Yeah. I know.

But I am referring to actual box sets with new dubs and all the special stuff the DBZ sets have, plus the easier to attain pricing.

After all, we don't have the original 13 episode saga available uncut.

Anarchistguy

12-09-2007, 12:57 PM

It is (was) available uncut... I didn't know those were out of print...

Raph's Girl

12-11-2007, 10:40 AM

Reality Show (Real World 2004 San Diego) contestant/actress Jamie Chung has been cast as ChiChi!

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3i7c5caf365ab6a9b8d98afe2ed1581d89

Jamie Chung has joined Justin Chatwin and James Marsters in Fox's "Dragonball," the live-action adaptation of the popular Japanese comic.

James Wong is directing the science fiction action-adventure, which centers on an adult humanoid alien named Goku (Chatwin) who, after discovering he was sent to Earth to destroy the population, tries to fulfill the wish of his dying grandfather and collect all seven of the world's mystical Dragon Balls to keep them out of the hands of the evil aliens.

Chung will play Chi Chi, the love interest of Goku when he's growing up.

Marsters ("Buffy, the Vampire Slayer") plays the evil Piccolo, who tries to take over the world.

"Dragonball," which is being produced by Stephen Chow, is one of the most successful Japanese cultural exports of all time.

Jamie Chung is Korean-American.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/26/JamieChungHeadshot.jpg

Drtooth

12-11-2007, 10:45 AM

James Wong is directing the science fiction action-adventure, which centers on an adult humanoid alien named Goku (Chatwin) who, after discovering he was sent to Earth to destroy the population, tries to fulfill the wish of his dying grandfather and collect all seven of the world's mystical Dragon Balls to keep them out of the hands of the evil aliens.

As long as they get that High School crap out of there, it sounds meh. More meh than GOd all mighty, please please please let the Directors go on strike so this won't happen.

Jamie Chung is Korean-American.

2 things. Reality contestant. Well, it's all staged, so it seems like she could be an actress.

And secondly, ah! I see they're going for the One kind of Asian= every kind of Asian thing that hollywood does. Nice way to be progressive "liberal" hollywood.

Plus, she's hot. A little too hot to play sweet little ChiChi.

Mai, however.... I could see her as Mai.

Raph's Girl

12-11-2007, 10:49 AM

2 things. Reality contestant. Well, it's all staged, so it seems like she could be an actress.

Well altho she was on Real World she's been in a couple movies and tv shows as well.

gobo

12-11-2007, 06:27 PM

After all, we don't have the original 13 episode saga available uncut.
That's all Tri-Mark's fault. They won't let the '13-ep & 1st movie' dub-onlys fall into obscurity, where they belong.
It is (was) available uncut... I didn't know those were out of print...
No. They were shown on Cartoon Network, probably edited for TV, and also only in dubbed format. The Trimark dubs were voiced by entirely different people. And, by uncut, I think he means sonically as well as visually (in other words, subbed). :)
Jamie Chung is Korean-American.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/26/JamieChungHeadshot.jpg
Doesn't look at all like Chi-Chi. :ohwell: And, I keep forgetting that all Asians look alike. :roll:

ZariusTwo

12-11-2007, 07:34 PM

Chi-Chi has long hair, but it's rarely seen (beyond her childhood in DB, the Piccolo arc, a flashback in Z and an infamous fanon Hentai comic)

Spitfire

12-11-2007, 07:39 PM

Doesn't look at all like Chi-Chi. :ohwell: And, I keep forgetting that all Asians look alike. :roll:

That's not true some are uglier then others. Some are very pretty to, actually just like every race. As it is with any race if the person decides to make themselves look different they will. Most Asians are grown up to fear their parents and dress and act how they tell them to, which is basically how they dress and act. So it's very traditional and they end up looking the same.

Been there, dated that for 2 years, it's insane. Man do they HATE white people, actually their probably the most racist race I can think of from my experiences. And you may say my one example isn't enough to stereotype an entire race but I'm not the only one, ask virtually any non-Asian whose dated an Asian or an Asian girl about what her parents did to her past boyfriends.

gobo

12-11-2007, 09:01 PM

Chi-Chi has long hair, but it's rarely seen
Aha! So, that's the one similarity. Thanks. :D :goof:
That's not true some are uglier then others. Some are very pretty to, actually just like every race. As it is with any race if the person decides to make themselves look different they will. Most Asians are grown up to fear their parents and dress and act how they tell them to, which is basically how they dress and act. So it's very traditional and they end up looking the same.

Been there, dated that for 2 years, it's insane. Man do they HATE white people, actually their probably the most racist race I can think of from my experiences. And you may say my one example isn't enough to stereotype an entire race but I'm not the only one, ask virtually any non-Asian whose dated an Asian or an Asian girl about what her parents did to her past boyfriends.
I hope this doesn't mean you didn't note my sarcasm. But, aren't you saying that they are just like white (or black or brown or red or green)people in that some are conformists and some are rebels though? If not, I may need a little clarification.

Drtooth

12-12-2007, 10:06 AM

Doesn't look at all like Chi-Chi. :ohwell: And, I keep forgetting that all Asians look alike. :roll:

Heh Heh. I got that sarcasm. Apparently Hollywood thinks that way. Hiringing Chinese guys to play Japanese guys... how come no one ever called racist on that?

Barkworm

12-12-2007, 10:15 AM

[...] actually their probably the most racist race I can think of from my experiences.
Being Asian myself (yes, Indians are Asian, too!) I quote this for the motherf*cking truth.

Spitfire

12-12-2007, 03:26 PM

I hope this doesn't mean you didn't note my sarcasm. But, aren't you saying that they are just like white (or black or brown or red or green)people in that some are conformists and some are rebels though? If not, I may need a little clarification.

Yeah their the same as everyone else but more controlling over their children then any other race.

Being Asian myself (yes, Indians are Asian, too!) I quote this for the motherf*cking truth.
It comes full circle after working in retail and trying to sell them stuff. I had an Indian co-worker at this dish store I worked at and they'd ask to speak to him instead of me when I'd approach them for help. That always sucked cause we got commission at that store. My pay was shorter when he was there but he was fun to talk to so it was a hard balance, be totally bored at work or make an extra 15 bucks a day.

Mecha Cow

12-12-2007, 03:47 PM

Hiringing Chinese guys to play Japanese guys... how come no one ever called racist on that?

Because it's not racist in the least? Come on now.

Cure

12-12-2007, 04:10 PM

Because it's not racist in the least? Come on now.

Seriously, they just need to look the part. Nothing wrong with ACTING like someone you're not in a movie.

Raph's Girl

12-15-2007, 04:16 PM

More casting news!

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3id192e882e824aeba72a544c3e52a4bb4

Eriko Tamura (the Japanese "princess" on Heroes) has been cast as Mai

Joon Park has been cast as Yamcha. Joon Park is a former member of the Korean boy band G.O.D and is one of the evil asians in Speed Racer.

Emmy Rossum has also been cast but there's no word on who she plays. Im thinking Bulma. She was pretty good in "The Day After Tomarrow"

Drtooth

12-16-2007, 10:34 AM

Joon Park has been cast as Yamcha. Joon Park is a former member of the Korean boy band G.O.D and is one of the evil asians in Speed Racer.

Gah! I was pushing for Ando from Heroes to play Yamchua. But then again, these kinds of productions are infamous for NOT hiring fans of the show. Other whise Mr. Harris wouldn't have been so upset with how Underdog came out (he's the creator, doncha know).

Seriously, is it just me, or should the girl playing Chi Chi play Mai, and the girl playing Mai play Chi Chi? I Mean, somehow, I see Chi Chi as a sweet little girl and Mai as a wanna be dominatrix that somehow became a spy.

AquaParade

12-16-2007, 09:08 PM

If anyone is interested in seeing some set pics of Justin Chatwin as Goku, head over to SHH. He's wearing the same color's as his outfit in the anime, but they're on regular clothes.

Raph's Girl

12-17-2007, 12:36 AM

You can see the first set pictures (oh look...it's justin chatwin in an orange shirt...yay....) here:

The website is in Spanish but it seems that the images are from filming on Dec 14th and the building is Unitech High School (where Goku goes to school).

http://blogs.hoycinema.com/movieland/post/2007/12/15/aexclusiva-primeras-imagenes-dragon-ball-y-set-se

gobo

12-17-2007, 02:57 AM

If anyone is interested in seeing some set pics of Justin Chatwin as Goku, head over to SHH.
To where?? ... Nevermind. I'm not really that interested.

Mecha Cow

12-17-2007, 09:55 AM

To where??
SuperHeroHype.

Not much to see, really. That Emmy Rossum chick is real cute though.

Drtooth

12-17-2007, 01:05 PM

You can see the first set pictures (oh look...it's justin chatwin in an orange shirt...yay....) here:

The website is in Spanish but it seems that the images are from filming on Dec 14th and the building is Unitech High School (where Goku goes to school).

GAHHHH!!! They're still doing the high shcool subplot that has nothing to do with the franchise. Well, all bets are off. Suck city.

Mecha Cow

12-17-2007, 01:20 PM

Wait, what? I didn't even catch that part. Why would Goku go to school? I thought that's where people went to avoid meaningless fighting.

Raph's Girl

12-17-2007, 01:44 PM

Wait, what? I didn't even catch that part. Why would Goku go to school? I thought that's where people went to avoid meaningless fighting.

This time around Grandpa Gohan is killed by Piccolo. Goku is raised by Gohan thru high school. I guess he's not a wild boy either.

In other news. It's been confirmed that Emmy Rossum is playing Women's Underwere er Bulma.

I wonder if the actors know what the names of these characters mean??

Emmy: "Her name is Bloomers...and she has kids named Bra and Trunks...and her last name is Briefs?!" :lol:

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117977810.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

Now...picture her with blue-green hair:
http://a330.g.akamai.net/7/330/23382/20071216213354/www.variety.com/graphics/photos/_mugr/rossum_emmy.jpg

Raven

12-17-2007, 02:02 PM

....This is dissappointing.

Dr. Doom

12-17-2007, 03:48 PM

Emmy Rossum is gorgeous, but I continue to lose more and more faith in this movie as time goes on.

Mecha Cow

12-17-2007, 05:28 PM

You had faith to begin with?

Cure

12-17-2007, 05:36 PM

Emmy Rossum is one of those chicks that's so cute you feel bad thinking "I'd hit that" to yourself.

Dr. Doom

12-17-2007, 05:47 PM

Emmy Rossum is one of those chicks that's so cute you feel bad thinking "I'd hit that" to yourself.

I feel just fine.

You had faith to begin with?

You're right, I suppose I phrased it wrong. It never really seemed like a good idea to me to begin with, but it just seems even worse every time it's updated with news.

Mecha Cow

12-17-2007, 06:08 PM

Emmy Rossum is one of those chicks that's so cute you feel bad thinking "I'd hit that" to yourself.
You know, I did a Google image search to try and find some pics to prove you wrong, but you're kinda right. But man, I'd still hit that.

So what was this thread about again?

Drtooth

12-17-2007, 07:31 PM

You're right, I suppose I phrased it wrong. It never really seemed like a good idea to me to begin with, but it just seems even worse every time it's updated with news.

Even still, the High School thing ruins it for me the most. You could cast Bob Sagat as Emperor Pilaf and The guy who played Joey on Friends to play General Blue, and it couldn't be any bigger of a disaster. I'll wait until an online trailer to make a final judgement.

Though I will say that Emmy Chick could make a good Bulma, as long as she remembers to play her as a selfish spoiled unpleasant Beeyotch.

AquaParade

12-19-2007, 02:43 AM

:lol:Speaking of casting, it might please a lot of you to know that Chow Yun Fat will officially be playing Master Roshi:)

Raph's Girl

12-19-2007, 11:48 AM

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3i5d843c633b3a4760765d1649a8b0e596

Chow Yun-Fat is the latest to join 20th Century Fox's live-action adaptation of "Dragonball."

Chow will play Master Roshi. He rounds out a cast that includes Justin Chatwin, James Marsters, Emmy Rossum and Jamie Chung. Chow is repped by CAA.

"Dragonball" is shooting in Mexico City and Los Angeles.

The film, directed by James Wong, follows Goku (Chatwin), a warrior alien who protects the Earth from an endless stream of rogues bent on dominating the universe and controlling mystical objects known as Dragon Balls. Stephen Chow is producing.

Master Roshi is Goku's mentor, helping him achieve the highest state of fighting and spiritual powers.

Chow Yun Fat as Master Roshi??? Wha?! Master Roshi is supposed to be a perverted icky old man not a major hottie! WTF?! How the heck am I supposed to enjoy this movie now when there's a major hottie playing Master Roshi?! *mumbles* Mmm... Chow Yun Fat.. *drools*

Mecha Cow

12-19-2007, 01:01 PM

They're not even trying, are they? This is going to be amazing.

Raph's Girl

12-26-2007, 02:23 PM

Emmy Rossum (Bulma) posted on her myspace blog (hey...she has myspace...) that she is enjoying the role and working with Chow Yun Fat (Master Roshi)

http://www.myspace.com/emmyrossum (huh...apperantly she's a singer too)

Zog the Equalizer

12-26-2007, 03:09 PM

http://www.myspace.com/emmyrossum (huh...apperantly she's a singer too)

I'm guessing you never saw The Phantom of the Opera

Raven

12-26-2007, 10:05 PM

Something has me even more worried for this film, I keep hearing that Krillain might not be in the film?

Can any one else confirm or deny this? I cant find a clear source.

Raph's Girl

12-26-2007, 11:51 PM

Something has me even more worried for this film, I keep hearing that Krillain might not be in the film?

Can any one else confirm or deny this? I cant find a clear source.

Nope. No Krillin. He's not on the character bible. Neither is Oolong. Krillin wasn't even in Dragonpearl. Oolong was tho.

Im more interested in seeing Forbidden Kingdom. Altho Im not sure if Oolong is in that...probably is tho since it more closely resembles the original story (Jet Li as Sun Wu Kung/Goku, what more could ya want).

Mecha Cow

12-31-2007, 09:23 AM

I am now hearing whispers of Hugh Jackman being cast as Vegeta. Smells like bullsh*t to me, seeing as Vegeta doesn't even appear in DragonBall and Jackman should be busy with the whole Wolverine thing, but who knows. I'll believe it when it's officially announced.

Anarchistguy

01-02-2008, 10:30 AM

Nope. No Krillin. He's not on the character bible. Neither is Oolong. Krillin wasn't even in Dragonpearl. Oolong was tho.

What's Dragonpearl?

Drtooth

01-02-2008, 11:13 AM

Dragon Pearl must be that Unlicensed Chinese film...

Mecha Cow

01-02-2008, 11:13 AM

I believe it's the name of that unofficial Chinese pseudo-DragonBall movie.

AquaParade

02-06-2008, 07:26 PM

Three questions...

#1. Do the season sets they've been releasing of dragon ball z include the original japanese dub with english subtitles?'

#2. Are there dates for the future seasons of the show, or do you think they might just cancel them and start releasing them on bluray?

#3. Is the original japanese dub of dbz a big improvement over the english one? In my experience I always enjoy the japanese audio more...will I probably feel the same about dbz?

gobo

02-06-2008, 08:15 PM

#1: Duh... Of course.

#2: Here's a list of DB-related future DVD-releases.
02-12-2008 Dragon Ball Movies Box Set (Movies 2-4) 19.98
02-19-2008 Dragon Ball Z Bardock/Trunks Double Feature 29.98
02-19-2008 Dragon Ball Z Season 4 49.98
05-27-2008 Dragon Ball Z Movies: Dead Zone/World's Strongest 29.98
05-27-2008 Dragon Ball Z Season 5 Box Set 49.98

#3: No idea...

DrSpengler

02-06-2008, 09:34 PM

Three questions...
#3. Is the original japanese dub of dbz a big improvement over the english one? In my experience I always enjoy the japanese audio more...will I probably feel the same about dbz?

It depends. A lot of characters have fundamentally different voices from the English version if that's what you're more familiar with.

For instance, all the males in Goku's family are voiced by the same woman, even as full grown adults. So they all have very high-pitched, screechy voices. To make matters worse, she isn't particularly versatiles, so Goku, Gohan and Goten all sound pretty much the same.

Krillen is also voiced by a woman in Japan, though I never found his Japanese voice particularly irritating.

Picollo sounds totally off from the characterization you'd expect from the offspring of a demon king. He sounds very relaxed and normal. I much prefer the gritty and growly ENglish versions. Vegeta also has a similar problem.

The Japanese version isn't terrible by any means, but most of the characters don't sound even remotely similar to how they're portrayed in the English version, which can be rather jarring to someone unfamiliar with the Japanese performances.

Personally, I find the English cast, both Ocean and Funimation, to be a lot more entertaining. I like Picollo and Vegeta to sound suitably evil and Goku to sound like a man.

Krang

02-07-2008, 02:55 AM

#3. Is the original japanese dub of dbz a big improvement over the english one? In my experience I always enjoy the japanese audio more...will I probably feel the same about dbz?
Here (http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=MaGyunia) are some clips of the Japanese version of DBZ so that you can get a general idea of what they sound like.

For instance, all the males in Goku's family are voiced by the same woman, even as full grown adults. So they all have very high-pitched, screechy voices. To make matters worse, she isn't particularly versatiles, so Goku, Gohan and Goten all sound pretty much the same.
Personally, I wouldn't say that their voices are high-pitched or screechy. Goku's Japanese voice isn't as deep or heroic-sounding as his English voice, but I think his Japanese VA does a good job of lowering her pitch to the point of sounding believable for the character. I agree with you on the second point, though.

AquaParade

02-13-2008, 03:57 PM

Thanks a lot guys. Is there a difference in the dialogue with the japanese version? And are the episodes uncut on the dvd sets? Sorry if these have been answered already.

gobo

02-13-2008, 05:00 PM

And are the episodes uncut on the dvd sets?
Absolutely.

Raph's Girl

04-06-2008, 09:56 PM

Piccies!!

Martial Arts Tournament:
http://img.trekmovie.com/images/sfs/dragonball1large.jpg

Goku:
http://img.trekmovie.com/images/sfs/dragonball2large.jpg

Mai:
http://img.trekmovie.com/images/sfs/dragonball3large.jpg

The current cast is:

Justin Chatwin as Goku:

James Marsters as Lord Piccolo: The antagonist of the film. Marsters explained that this incarnation of the character is "thousands of years old and a very long time ago he used to be a force of good, but [he] got into a bad argument and was put into prison for 2000 years. It got him very angry, and he finds a way to escape and then tries to destroy the world. The cool thing is, anybody who has seen Dragonball knows that Lord Piccolo transforms into a character named Piccolo, and that is a whole other ball of wax. [...] Heroic wouldn't be the wrong term by the end, but it's a long journey." He also confirmed Piccolo will retain his physical appearance from the anime. Marsters is a fan of the television series, which he described as being "the coolest television cartoon in the last 50,000 years [because] it’s got a Shakespearean sense of good and evil." He admitted, "When I got the role I had doubts. The more I live with it I realize that I am going to rock this harder than I have anything in my life."

Jamie Chung as Chi-Chi

Emmy Rossum as Bulma

Chow Yun-Fat as Master Roshi

Joon Park as Yamcha.

Eriko Tamura as Mai

Texas Battle as Carey Fuller: A high school bully

Luis Arrieta as Teto: A classmate and friend of Goku. He is an original character created for the film.

Randall Duk Kim as Grandpa Gohan: The adoptive father and grandfather of Goku who teaches Goku everything he knows about martial arts.

Ernie Hudson will play as Mr. Popo

So Teto is the replacement for Krillen.... :ohwell:

gobo

04-07-2008, 12:22 AM

Winston Z FTW!!

Spitfire

04-07-2008, 02:40 AM

I have a feeling a lot of fans are going to be pissed when this comes out. They waited all these years, they better be careful.

poiuytre

04-07-2008, 08:35 AM

I agree with Spitfire, but at the same time, it looks better than I thought it would from the pictures already.(low expectations :D) The hairstyles are the toughest to recreate and from the look of the Gokou shot, it's pretty good. I'm glad they didn't try to make it too much like the actual characters. It would look so rediculous and stupid.

Mecha Cow

04-07-2008, 09:47 AM

Is that pic even of Goku? Doesn't look like Chatwin to me.

Also:

Texas Battle
This is one hell of a badass name.

AquaParade

04-07-2008, 11:21 AM

Is that pic even of Goku? Doesn't look like Chatwin to me.

Also:

This is one hell of a badass name.

Most people are assuming that it is actually a pic of his stunt double...what's with those pants? I would have preferred a more faithful outfit..hopefully I'll be surprised.

Mecha Cow

04-07-2008, 11:28 AM

Faithfulness is one thing I wouldn't hope for with this movie. :lol:

I think the blue pants look alright though, for what it's worth.

Kendamu

04-07-2008, 12:08 PM

Thanks a lot guys. Is there a difference in the dialogue with the japanese version? And are the episodes uncut on the dvd sets? Sorry if these have been answered already.
Yes. Double yes. Very yes.

AquaParade

04-07-2008, 01:31 PM

Ya thanks for the info on those dvd sets a while back guys. I picked up season 3 a few weeks ago. Definitely better in Japanese. Dragon Ball z, with all it's cons really is an awesome epic saga. I like to think of it as the Japanese form of a disney adventure(ironic considering the origin of anime), and I find that it is a lot more enjoyable. It's not so much the specific episodes, but the big picture that makes me love DBZ.

Raph's Girl

04-11-2008, 05:52 PM

Looky folks!! It's Piccolo! Well er um sorta....his outfit at least (why'd they have to block his face?! )... James Marsters in black leather...mmmmm... :evilgrin:

http://www.edwardfrench.com/recent_photos.htm

Cure

04-11-2008, 08:37 PM

(why'd they have to block his face?! )[/url]

If you read, they explain why.

AquaParade

05-02-2008, 01:15 PM

After viewing Season three after years away from the show, I have quite a bit to say...

First of all, like I expected, the show is so much better in Japanese. Anyone who's only seen the dubs, and thrown the show away should really go take another look...especially these uncut episodes...I mean who gets thrown through rocks and punched in the face 20 times by a saiyan and doesn't bleed? Japan did this show right...America...not so much.

I picked up season three before any of the other seasons, because it was more of a nostalgic thing. I did'nt really plan on picking up any others, and I wanted to get the one that I had the fondest memories of. Wow...Now I have to go back and get all the other seasons. I'm just hoping they hold up to this quality...Seeing Freeze tremble, shake, and basically watching him go nuts as Goku declared he was done fighting is a breathtaking moment. I had chills at that spot. The tension of a 10+ episode fight really does pay off. Anyone else notice this part as a true highlight of Dbz?

Now for some of you're opinions....

First of all, after being so surprised at how well Dragon Ball Z can really be(despite all the filler and whatnot), I'm scared that the Freeza saga might be the peak of the show, and If I were to pick up another set I might just be disappointed.
I've heard a ton of people on the internet say that the Cell saga inched it's way above the Freeza saga to them by just a little bit. Do any of you feel this way? Is it really possible for a DBZ saga to overcome great moments like the Freeze one I mentioned above? Is the Cell saga really all that good in your opinions? Cell seemed kinda bland as an enemy in my opinion(Seems like he has no real character development, especially after watching Freeze go from an almight ruler to trembling in the dirt, body split in peices and whispering "help me")...but once again, I've pretty much only seen the Americanized Cell.

Also, another quick question...Just wanna know what you guys would do in my position, considering I started off in the middle of the show with season 3.
Would you go back and start at season one and overlap season three to add a lot more tension to seasons 4,5, and 6, or would you just continue on with season 4, 5, and 6, and pick up 1 and 2 later on and watch those two in a row and view them as a sort of prequel:)?

I'm dying for some discussion right now. What do you guys think?

Discuss this with me or I will Kamehameha you.

Drtooth

05-02-2008, 01:40 PM

Piccies!!

Martial Arts Tournament:
http://img.trekmovie.com/images/sfs/dragonball1large.jpg

Goku:
http://img.trekmovie.com/images/sfs/dragonball2large.jpg

Mai:
http://img.trekmovie.com/images/sfs/dragonball3large.jpg

GOD! Do any of these people read, watch, or anyway bother to familiarize themselves with the original source material? Did they just pull the name of a random anime out of a hat and say, "oh yeah. We had a generic action film, and wanted to slap a franchise name on it, so people would be suckered to go and see it!"

mai without Pilaf and Shao? no wonder why they made her a generic Asian female assasin, instead of being a government subsidised spy or something like that. I can't even think that they'd make her wear anything but a Chinese red guard costume.

She does look hot, though. Can't argue there.

But this film is gonna suck big time. Wow. Who do they intend to get to see this movie? Franchise fans will be too P.O'd to want to see it, and the causual movie goer will probably pass over it for a different action flick.

i'd say, i'd look forward to Funimation releasing the original Dragon ball in season sets, like they did with Z, but even that's out of the question, since Lion's Gate owns the right to the first 13 episodes and the first movie. So... yeah...

AquaParade

05-05-2008, 12:07 AM

I'm terrible at quoting things, but please direct your eyes two posts above^:P And discuss (: It'd be much appreciated.

Raph's Girl

05-05-2008, 01:31 AM

James Marsters talks about the creation process of Piccolo at Grand Slam. It's really good to have an actual Dragonball fan that cares so much in this film.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdeHwTMeq3s

AquaParade

05-11-2008, 04:16 PM

Alright...Here's a gift for all of you. It's a picture of Goku from the movie. Look's really awesome to me. That's the best I've seen them do his hair so far following this movie's production. Now all you have to do for me, is go up to my super long post and reply;)

http://i26.tinypic.com/16gdite.jpg

http://www.superherohype.com/news/dragonballnews.php?id=7189

Raph's Girl

05-20-2008, 07:36 PM

Im dissapointed that Bulma doesn't have blue hair.....

AquaParade

05-20-2008, 07:42 PM

No, she doesn't. However, I believe there is a blue streak in there.
At this point, it doesn't bug me too much. As someone on SHH pointed out, in a movie world, it would have just made her look more alien then Goku...I thought that was a pretty good point. Also...I don't think she needs the blue hair to make her character faithful...it would have been cool in a big budget LOTR style movie though.

Raph's Girl

05-25-2008, 12:23 PM

More character pics:

Bulma (you can totally see the blue in her hair now):
http://dbthemovie.com/images/roadshow/Bulma.jpg

Yamcha:
http://dbthemovie.com/images/roadshow/Yamcha.jpg

ChiChi:
http://dbthemovie.com/images/roadshow/Chichi.jpg

Master Roshi:
http://dbthemovie.com/images/roadshow/roshi.jpg

Goku:
http://dbthemovie.com/images/roadshow/goku2.jpg

gobo

05-25-2008, 12:34 PM

Ooohh... Pretty Bulma. :goofygri: She doesn't look irritable though. I guess that was more Chi-Chi's thing, but Bulma's supposed to have that flighty irritability. Goku's hair looks stupid though.

ToTheNines

05-25-2008, 03:03 PM

I can't believe they're actually doing this.

Raph's Girl

05-25-2008, 03:07 PM

I can't believe they're actually doing this.

Yep! April 10th, 2009 is the release date!! :D

Mar - May 2009 is gonna be loads of fun: Dragonball, Wolverine, Star Trek, Terminator 4, Watchmen....

This is also set to be a trillogy (James Marsters has signed on for all the films). The 2nd one will be out in 2011 (along with Capt America and The Avengers! )

poiuytre

05-25-2008, 03:53 PM

Goku:
http://dbthemovie.com/images/roadshow/goku2.jpg
I never noticed this before, but his face is really small compared to his head. It's like someone photoshopped a child's face onto a grown man.

05-25-2008, 03:58 PM

I don't know if I should laugh or cry... :(

The sad part is how drastically different they all look from the original manga/anime. Then again, with most live action stuff they tend to put their own spin on it. Ah...good ol' crazy Japan...

Raph's Girl

05-25-2008, 10:41 PM

Apperantly Ernie Hudson has revealed that his character in the movie is Master Roshi's sensei. In the anime that was Master Mutaito...a white man with blue hair (and apperantly crosseyed).

http://www.dragonball.com/sagas_db/big/Ep-129-(5).jpg

Brodie

05-25-2008, 11:22 PM

That color is actually grey...?

GK Punk

05-26-2008, 12:54 AM

Wow, they aren't even trying are they?

More character pics:

Bulma (you can totally see the blue in her hair now):
http://dbthemovie.com/images/roadshow/Bulma.jpg

Alright, she's kinda hot.

That color is actually grey...?

Looks grey to me too.

Mecha Cow

05-26-2008, 06:30 AM

This is amazing. I especially love Goku's 'costume'. 'Hey guys, here's a shirt with some Chinese-looking characters on it, that's sort of accurate right?'

This is going to be a hideous trainwreck, and I will be there Day One.

gobo

05-26-2008, 01:05 PM

The sad thing is that I wouldn't expect any better from Japan or any other Asian territory for a DB adaptation...

Raph's Girl

06-08-2008, 08:16 PM

Welp.. the script has supposadly been leaked. Took a look at it of course. Seems that this movie is set in the future! The 41st century to be exact cuz in the 21st century Piccolo and a bunch of other Namekians came to earth and caused a bit of a ruccus...destroying much of the planet. :o Seems interesting to say the least.

If you wanna read the script go here:
http://dbthemovie.com/2008/06/08/leaked-script

Drtooth

06-09-2008, 08:17 AM

I'll say this. they really should have waited for Speed Racer to have been released to go further with this project. A), Speed Racer showed that you CAN make a live action movie look like an anime (one racing sequence even had blur lines digitally altered on a racer's Helmet for example) and B) to realise no matter how hard you try, no one's gonna wanna see it (Shame, it was the best cartoon adaption to live action I've seen since Popeye).

But these guys look like they didn't even want to try.

The sad thing is that I wouldn't expect any better from Japan or any other Asian territory for a DB adaptation...

I'd have to see the barely legal Hong Kong movie to really appreciate that. I heard that their adaptions of their cartoons was iffy. Someone somewhere said they had a horrible adaption of Devilman. And I'd actually kinda like to see the Yattaman movie, if there were anyway possible way.

But seriously... the guy producing it is the guy who should be writing or directing it. Anyone see Kung Fu Hustle? It was like an anime come to life. it will probably be more DB than this film will ever be.

Ninjinister

06-09-2008, 08:18 PM

I haven't read a lot of bigtime movie scripts, but do they normally have typos in them? I mean, page one... "Bowstaff"? A lot of the descriptive terms sound like a ten year old wrote it....

gobo

06-09-2008, 08:38 PM

That's fourth-rate hollywood for ya'...

Raph's Girl

06-10-2008, 08:35 PM

The upcoming movie now has a Youtube site with behind the scenes videos

http://www.youtube.com/user/dbthemovie

Meanwhile the leaked script was a fake. But it was an interesting one at least.

Drtooth

06-11-2008, 08:52 AM

Meanwhile the leaked script was a fake. But it was an interesting one at least.

So, does that mean the nonsense about him being a high school student was fake too?

gobo

06-11-2008, 09:33 AM

I'll bet he's actually an elementary school student. Seriously, it looks like the face of one superimposed on that man's body, so it might as well be true.

Raph's Girl

06-11-2008, 10:12 AM

So, does that mean the nonsense about him being a high school student was fake too?

No. He's really a high school student. The first behind the scenes pics were of Goku going to school. *lol*

Raph's Girl

06-15-2008, 02:26 PM

Goku:
http://img.trekmovie.com/images/sfs/dragonball2large.jpg

I have been informed that the above image is Justin Chatwin's stunt double, Jack Spidel.

You can see numerous images that FOX told some sites to take down on youtube with comentary so you know what's what.:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lltB4RCs7No

Raph's Girl

06-24-2008, 05:22 PM

Drtooth

06-24-2008, 08:49 PM

There's a new poster that features Goku (gods this kid looks freaky), Chichi, Bulma, Mai, Master Roshi...and if you look at it close enough you can see Piccolo's eyes at the top!!!

http://dbthemovie.com/gallery/albums/official/dragonballposterexpo.jpg

Goldern it. This looks even cheaper than the unofficial Hong Kong movie. They could have at least spent money on the poster.

Spitfire

06-25-2008, 02:56 AM

It honestly doesn't even look like they tried. It looks like a made for TV movie.

Drtooth

06-25-2008, 09:09 AM

It honestly doesn't even look like they tried. It looks like a made for TV movie.

Or a poorly done fan mock up. Like that Dark Knight "Joker" that was floating around the internet 2 years ago.

Spitfire

06-25-2008, 02:14 PM

Actually that's what I was thinking of, crappy fan made something or other. Even TV isn't that bad. I don't plan on seeing it so I don't care but I'm sure more times then I'd like to I'll be submitted to seeing the trailer for it before a few movies.

Jack Skellington

06-25-2008, 08:05 PM

I never knew such a movie was made, but you prompted me to google it, and thought some of you might find this....uhh...interesting:thumbsup:

http://i15.tinypic.com/4372qev.jpg
what the f--k ?!

Drtooth

06-25-2008, 08:08 PM

I rest m case. At least in the Hong Kong one, Roshi LOOKS like Roshi.

That just looks like a random guy in a hawaian shirt.

When you can't even afford a fake mustache, you're project is doomed.

Anarchistguy

06-26-2008, 07:28 AM

I rest m case. At least in the Hong Kong one, Roshi LOOKS like Roshi.

That just looks like a random guy in a hawaian shirt.

When you can't even afford a fake mustache, you're project is doomed.

And at least in the Hong Kong one, Goku's gi LOOKS like the one in the manga/anime.

As for the US version, like Spitfire said, it doesn't even look like they tried.

Raph's Girl

07-03-2008, 04:36 PM

Dragonball Le Film found a set photo of Emmy Rossum’s stunt double, Janene Carleton, on Bulma’s bike. Kinda funny that the most images we've seen are of their stunt doubles.

http://dbthemovie.com/gallery/albums/setpics/bulmabike.jpg

Drtooth

07-04-2008, 08:49 AM

At least they got the machines sort of kind of right sort of....

Raph's Girl

07-05-2008, 06:34 PM

Some new piccies have come in:

Master Roshi has a mustache now...and a shirt with a semi-nude girl on it to um I guess prove that he's still perverted? Chow....your mustache is too thin for Roshi....
http://dbthemovie.com/gallery/albums/official/dragonballJSQ8_2.jpg

Bulma hides from Goku, for whatever reason.
http://dbthemovie.com/gallery/albums/official/dragonballJSQ8_1.jpg

Goku and the blue Gi:
http://dbthemovie.com/gallery/albums/official/dragonballJSQ8_3.jpg

Coming soon, a new interview with James Marsters (Piccolo). I just wanna see a full on pic of Piccolo and not just his eyes like in that last poster. :/

Drtooth

07-05-2008, 07:17 PM

Some new piccies have come in:

Master Roshi has a mustache now...and a shirt with a semi-nude girl on it to um I guess prove that he's still perverted? Chow....your mustache is too thin for Roshi....
http://dbthemovie.com/gallery/albums/official/dragonballJSQ8_2.jpg

He looks like Chow Yun Fat. He DOESN'T look like Roshi one bit.

Why is this film being made? no one's gonna want to see it. They've alienated all the DB fans into never seeing it at all.

Once again, they should have made a deal with Funimation to distribute the actual DBZ movie dubs. It would be cheaper and more people would want to see it.

Unless Lion's Gate drops its asinine ownership of the first saga of Dragon Ball, and gives it to Funimation to release uncut, there's nothing good coming out of this.

Mecha Cow

07-05-2008, 07:27 PM

Why is this film being made? no one's gonna want to see it.
I want to see it.

Raph's Girl

07-05-2008, 08:26 PM

I want to see it.

As do I. Sure I'll be just watching it to have some Chow Yun Fat and James Marsters drool time....but I'll be watching it all the same. Why? Im a DB fan. Sure I hated the original film, who didn't? But Im still holding my judgement till I see more footage than I've already seen. Altho what I've seen (which is mostly the ChiChi/Mai fight at the Martial Arts Tournament) I actually like...even tho it's grainy (cell phone footage...wee!).

Course I also wanna see a full on image of Piccolo. Darnit...why do they have to be so secretive about what he looks like?! I know he's green at least cuz James Marsters insisted on it.

Drtooth

07-05-2008, 09:26 PM

Morbid curiosity makes me want to see it. And if the trailers look good. I might just go to a crappy theater and sneak in after seeing something else. But it seems that they got everything wrong but the characters names.

Something tells me Japan isn't going to like this one. not one bit. I still wonder what they think of Speed Racer (Mach Go Go Go), but at least the cast LOOKED right, adn it looked like an anime. This looks like a television film, if anything.

Out of couriosity, is that Hong Kong Dragon ball film available on DVD? I saw it on VHS at a convention 2 years ago, but didn't feel like paying 10 bucks for it.

gobo

07-05-2008, 09:52 PM

It was. I think it's out of print now.

EDIT: Or not... (http://www.rightstuf.com/cgi-bin/catalogmgr/E=8bJIDRv8FLhkAQPs/browse/item/75950/4/0/0)

poiuytre

07-06-2008, 08:33 AM

This is going to be hilarious and cool in the Mario Brothers movie kinda way. That flick was bad in so many ways and other than a few names, it wasn't anything like Mario, but that made it fun. I expect this to be the same deal.

Raph's Girl

07-06-2008, 08:44 AM

It was. I think it's out of print now.

EDIT: Or not... (http://www.rightstuf.com/cgi-bin/catalogmgr/E=8bJIDRv8FLhkAQPs/browse/item/75950/4/0/0)

When Lord Horn threatens to conquer the universe by stealing all seven dragon balls, it's up to Son Goku, Bulma, Master Roshi, Sea Turtle, and Chi Chi to take back the dragon balls and save the world!

WTF?! Turtle isn't even IN that movie! That's false advertising! Plus the fact that the characters all have different names. Turtle Man (Roshi), Jade (Chi Chi), Monkey Boy (Goku), SeeToe (Bulma), Westwood (Yamcha), Piggy (Oolong), Snow White (Puar, this time she's a Cockatoo), Sparkle (Grandpa Gohan).

Ninjinister

07-06-2008, 12:40 PM

Chow Yun-Fat actually looked more like Kamesennin in At World's End than he does here... he didn't have the full on white beard, but at least he was bald and had more facial hair than a thirteen year old's mustache.

Raph's Girl

07-06-2008, 08:01 PM

poiuytre

07-07-2008, 06:10 AM

Well looks like Goku's got a rival of sorts. Texas Battle (that's the guy's real name!) plays a new character called Carey Fuller, who in the movie is... ChiChi's BF!! Can you say love triangle??? Oy! :ohwell:

http://dbthemovie.com/2008/07/06/castandcrewtalkdragonball/
That is the best name in the entire world.

I don't really mind how they sucked this side story out of their thumbs, eventho Goku was supposed to be Chichi's first boyfriend, but how the heck are love triangles supposed to bring a "romantic" note to a plot anyway? It's always about one person either cheating on their parter or at the very least dumping them hard to hop right to the next person. There's nothing good or romantic about that at all. It just illustrates how little commitment means to such a person. :dead:

ZariusTwo

07-08-2008, 07:13 PM

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/134/onepieceanimead1svb4.jpg

New DBZ anime special on it's way

This movie can give up any minute now.

Raph's Girl

07-18-2008, 08:20 PM

Drtooth

07-19-2008, 05:13 PM

All those complaining that Goku has the wrong Gi on....well looky here! A news station in Japan did a report that included images of Justin Chatwin in the Orange Gi... Looks good!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIwBL1a4BJk

Something tells me Justin Chatwin could be wearing a chicken suit, and it still wouldn't effect the faithfulness to the show in the movie's direction.

What scares the crap out of me is that in the DB universe (even in parts of DBZ... at least in the anime) anthromorphic animals co-exist with humans. I can't wait to see how they'd screw that up.

Raph's Girl

07-19-2008, 09:44 PM

What scares the crap out of me is that in the DB universe (even in parts of DBZ... at least in the anime) anthromorphic animals co-exist with humans. I can't wait to see how they'd screw that up.

I don't think there's any anthro's in this movie. Oolong, Puar, and Turtle aren't even mentioned in any of the previews.

Drtooth

07-20-2008, 08:58 AM

I don't think there's any anthro's in this movie. Oolong, Puar, and Turtle aren't even mentioned in any of the previews.
Either they're going to avoid them completely or do one of 2 things...

Garfield/Alvin and the Chipmunks... make the characters look like hideous half breeds of cartoon animals and realistic ones... or

Underdog/Inspector Gadget... use real animals and saddle them with character names.

Everything about this movie screams, "We don't care about Dragon Ball, why are we even making it a movie?"

Mecha Cow

07-20-2008, 10:30 AM

From what I read of the script, they used 'Oolong' as the name of an alien race or something. I don't know if that script was real or not, but that sounds ridiculous enough to be true.

Raph's Girl

07-20-2008, 11:02 AM

From what I read of the script, they used 'Oolong' as the name of an alien race or something. I don't know if that script was real or not, but that sounds ridiculous enough to be true.

An alien race named after tea?! :lol:

The thing with Oolong is that he was in the original story, Journey to the West/Monkey King, to begin with as Pigsy. Every other live action Dragonball movie has him (there's apperantly another one other than Magic Begins that includes Vegeta....his hair is wrong tho...looks more like Wolverine's hair. I saw the pics of it on YouTube.)

If anybody wants to see images from the live action film that apperantly includes Vegeta and Puar and is worse than Magic begins (WTF? A Nintendo DS being used as Dragon Radar?) Check it out. They're at the end (this is a youtube site that has all the latest news and stuff on Dragonball). Why is it that the live action Dragonball films done in Asia actually have old men playing Master Roshi but we get Chow Yun Fat? :ohwell:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzLJ7oiUhGA

Raph's Girl

07-20-2008, 05:42 PM

http://dbthemovie.com/gallery/albums/official/gokuposter.jpeg

Raph's Girl

08-02-2008, 11:54 AM

A couple new pics are up:

Mai:
http://dbthemovie.com/gallery/albums/official/mai.jpg

Chichi:
http://dbthemovie.com/gallery/albums/official/newchichi.jpg

Spitfire

08-02-2008, 02:22 PM

Anyone else find it funny Goku is the lone white guy? Like seriously what sense does that make? This movies going to be a huge joke. I might have to rent it just to laugh at it.

AquaParade

08-02-2008, 02:28 PM

It's probably safe to say this won't be an award winner, but I think we may be in for some nice eye candy set in a universe pretty faithful to Dragon Ball Z. As a fan, it sounds pretty cool to me.

poiuytre

08-02-2008, 02:30 PM

a universe pretty faithful to Dragon Ball Z.
As much as I'd love this, I sincerely doubt it.

Gordo

08-02-2008, 02:32 PM

I plan to see this movie for the sole fact that it can't be much worse than the actual cartoon.

Drtooth

08-03-2008, 08:52 AM

It's probably safe to say this won't be an award winner, but I think we may be in for some nice eye candy set in a universe pretty faithful to Dragon Ball Z. As a fan, it sounds pretty cool to me.

Just like Inspector Gadget, Garfield, and Underdog.

Jeez... at least spend money on the special effects.

TMNT-Leonardo

08-05-2008, 07:13 PM

Um...I'm not sure how much you've guys really read into this, but this film is going to based on DRAGON BALL not Dragon Ball Z. The first manga in the series. They both have diffrent plots, so it's safe to say that it's not going to be faithful to Dragon Ball Z as it is not based on Dragon Ball Z. :lol:

So far though, I really don't like who they casted for Goku. Plus considering it's suppose to be based on the first series, he's WAY to old, as Goku was only a kid in the first series. They haven't shown any pics of Demon Piccolo yet, so I'm really starting to wounder how good/bad he looks.

AquaParade

08-05-2008, 10:18 PM

They both have diffrent plots, so it's safe to say that it's not going to be faithful to Dragon Ball Z as it is not based on Dragon Ball Z. :lol:

So far though, I really don't like who they casted for Goku. Plus considering it's suppose to be based on the first series, he's WAY to old, as Goku was only a kid in the first series. [/QUOTE]

Exactly.;)

Raph's Girl

08-27-2008, 05:23 PM

Those wondering when the first trailer will air, FOX is saying it's attached to the Max Payne movie out Oct 17th.

Voltron

08-27-2008, 09:18 PM

gobo

08-27-2008, 09:23 PM

Or afternoon and day...

ZariusTwo

08-27-2008, 11:36 PM

Right. One involves the a kid who beats the hell out of people in an attempt to save the world, the other involves a guy who beats the crap out of people in an attempt to save the world.

It's like night and day.

One involves a guy staring at something or someone intently for three minutes, the other involves a guy staring at something or someone intently for thirty minutes

gobo

08-27-2008, 11:50 PM

I knew I should have put on some sun screen before getting on this boat... Oh, the burn! >_<

Drtooth

08-28-2008, 07:51 AM

One involves a guy staring at something or someone intently for three minutes, the other involves a guy staring at something or someone intently for thirty minutes

Quote of the thread right there.

Of course the difference between DB and DBZ is that in DB they actually HAVE Dragon Balls in it. Not that I don't like Z, I think the original Dragon Ball was much better crafted, and much more entertaining.

Come on... Bulma trading favors for Dragon Balls? How can that NOT be a classic?

ZariusTwo

08-28-2008, 10:16 AM

I hear you. Goku was a hoot in DB. Amounting marraige to the value of ham? Thinking it's a type of food? Priceless humour true to the sublime vintage stuff that could come from Slump.

Drtooth

08-28-2008, 04:31 PM

And half of everyone was a pervert. Yup, old school Toryama's my favorite.

Ninjinister

09-03-2008, 08:09 AM

So Piccolo's been revealed....

All I can say is...

What

The

F$%^?!

http://kotaku.com/5044692/oh-hollywood-what-did-you-do-to-dragonball

Gotta love this quote:

"This looks like something that Uwe Boll would walk out on."

09-03-2008, 08:23 AM

Good god, WHY?! Piccolo has done nothing wrong to you Hollywood! Spare him from the pain and suffering! D:

Ninjinister

09-03-2008, 08:25 AM

Good god, WHY?! Piccolo has done nothing wrong to you Hollywood! Spare him from the pain and suffering! D:

So much for Marsters' promise he'd be green....

Drtooth

09-03-2008, 08:44 AM

I'm not seeing no Piccolo....

Seriously, who do they intend to get to see this movie? They're alienating old fans, and the younger kids don't care. And if Speed Racer has taught us anything, even if you do a good job and watch the series and use the correct character names no one will see it, and it will lose tons of money.

I'll ask it again... Why the hell don't they just make a deal to release a double header of DBZ films theatrically? They'd make the same ammount of money... maybe more.

poiuytre

09-03-2008, 10:51 AM

That made me laugh so hard I started to cry.

Mecha Cow

09-03-2008, 11:39 AM

How hard would it have been to make him green? Now they're just trying to f*ck with people.

The Stryker

09-03-2008, 12:35 PM

Piccolo looks more like Frieza.

Cure

09-03-2008, 12:50 PM

Piccolo looks more like Frieza.

You're right, he does.

Raph's Girl

09-03-2008, 01:16 PM

http://kotaku.com/assets/images/gallery/9/2008/09/medium_2824546062_32e79aff51_o.jpg

"Dear James,

You promised us it would be accurate. You promised us the green!! What happened Mr. "Im a Dragonball fan"?! What the frak happened!!"

So basically instead of Piccolo we get vamped up Spike.

Drtooth

09-03-2008, 02:17 PM

http://kotaku.com/assets/images/gallery/9/2008/09/medium_2824546062_32e79aff51_o.jpg

And as if we didn't have enough signs that this movie was going to be a total piece of crap....

Did these people even WATCH an episode of the show, or did they just pull up a bunch of action figures and decided to name people after them?

I hate talking like a facebook reply, but I think we're all in agreement when I say...

EPIC FAIL!!!!

ZariusTwo

09-03-2008, 04:20 PM

What the heck is the heavy from Star Trek: Nemesis doing in this?

I've seen more accuracy in Super Mario Bros than this gutless s*ite. At least Speed Racer wasnt afraid to mimic the world it was adapting.

Raph's Girl

09-03-2008, 04:51 PM

What the heck is the heavy from Star Trek: Nemesis doing in this?

What?? Didn't you hear? Instead of being from Namek he's now a Reman! :roll:

Jester

09-03-2008, 05:20 PM

But he wasn't a Reman, he was a Human clone...oh never mind. :P

Funny you brought up Super Mario Bros. Zarius, because I think he looks like that movies Koopa.

Drtooth

09-03-2008, 05:51 PM

I've seen more accuracy in Super Mario Bros than this gutless s*ite. At least Speed Racer wasnt afraid to mimic the world it was adapting.

And Speed Racer wasn't afraid to spend money...bomb or not. If you can't go out and get a simple tube of green face paint, then this will look worse than a fan made Youtube video someone did in their back yard. Even if they went to Japan and got DBZ character walkaround costumes, it wouldn't look half as cheap.

Anarchistguy

09-03-2008, 06:33 PM

Mecha Cow

09-04-2008, 08:29 AM

It's hard to deny the huge difference in tone between the two though, but for what it's worth this movie doesn't seem to give a sh*t about either of them anyway.

愛

09-04-2008, 08:34 AM

Drtooth

09-04-2008, 09:22 AM

Anything worth doing is worth doing well. And it seems like this film just ain;t worth doing. All I'm gonna say.

You can't expect to take a "creative" direction with something (note use of "), and not have it p*ss off the fans by essentially flipping them the finger and saying "We got a generic action script we're not sure would sell. let's slap some famous name brand license on it so we can get our foot in the door."

From what I can understand they're making a generic action movie, and calling it "Dragon Ball" and naming characters after characters from the series. And that's where the connection ends.

I'd look forward to the wave of Dragon Ball merchandise this thing is likely to produce... but until Funimation settles that nonsense with Lion's Gate, we're not going to the original series uncut, released in box sets like Z and GT are.

AquaParade

09-04-2008, 11:46 AM

Hey, I ain't defending this movie fully...Yes, when thinking about how much movie potential dragon ball or dragon ball z could have, it does make you kinda brush this one off, however I still think it could be pretty good.
That aside, i think you guys might be over reacting on the look of Piccolo...

1.He looks awesome in the original design, but it may not have translated to screen so well.

2. This is "Lord Piccolo", not Piccolo Jr., I'm sure Piccolo Jr. will come out looking different if they get to a sequel...hopefully and probably something a little more faithful.

3. Green? No. In the original Manga, Piccolo was "colorless". He was white. I'm pretty sure James Wong said he was basing this off the original manga.

...I'm not trying to argue this movie into everyones hearts...I myself am just hoping for an ok movie, enjoyable to me because I'm a fan of the myth, but I think this movie is getting more hate then it deserves...even if it does deserve some.

ZariusTwo

09-04-2008, 12:48 PM

I respect the "myth" that it's a Manga that never initally took itself seriously, wasnt intended for a broader audience, had pervertive characters overcoming odds and forging family bonds and maturing through their misadventures.

If you tell Yanks to do that, they'd turn it into a "Dude, Where's My Car" spot...and people (very stupid people) would think that wasnt Dragonball...when in all likelyhood, it IS.

Drtooth

09-04-2008, 12:58 PM

If you tell Yanks to do that, they'd turn it into a "Dude, Where's My Car" spot...and people (very stupid people) would think that wasnt Dragonball...when in all likelyhood, it IS.

I'd also call them Yanks... but not cuz they're from the US...

Raph's Girl

09-04-2008, 01:57 PM

3. Green? No. In the original Manga, Piccolo was "colorless". He was white. I'm pretty sure James Wong said he was basing this off the original manga.

Oh? Piccolo was white in the Manga??? Well I suppose him being white in the movie is ok then....but for the folks like me who've never read the Manga this is just plain confusing.

Drtooth

09-04-2008, 02:12 PM

Oh? Piccolo was white in the Manga??? Well I suppose him being white in the movie is ok then....but for the folks like me who've never read the Manga this is just plain confusing.

They were ALL white in the manga. White with black outlines. They're just trying to legitimize their lack of green face paint.

Aelia

09-04-2008, 05:51 PM

They were ALL white in the manga. White with black outlines. They're just trying to legitimize their lack of green face paint.

Then where are their black outlines!? I WANT MY BLACK OUTLINES DAMNIT!

Krang

09-05-2008, 12:15 AM

3. Green? No. In the original Manga, Piccolo was "colorless". He was white. I'm pretty sure James Wong said he was basing this off the original manga.
http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/21M6BD5VJKL._SL500_AA140_.jpghttp://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/511T3D3RGWL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

Sage Ninja

09-05-2008, 12:27 AM

Oh? Piccolo was white in the Manga??? Well I suppose him being white in the movie is ok then....but for the folks like me who've never read the Manga this is just plain confusing.

hey, hey, double standards Raph's girl. Remember a very similar attitude involving a certain comic vs. a certain cartoon about four green guys.....:nod:

09-05-2008, 04:39 AM

lol joke movie

As a huge fan of the Dragonball universe, but not enough to go flying off the handle because they're messing up my favorite anime of all time (inb4 trolls), this could be the funniest movie I'll see in a movie theater in a long...long time.
True. I know a teacher of mine that is just going to see it so then she can laugh at how badly they've adapted Piccolo.

Either way, this movie is shaping up to be something very memorable...

:lol:

TMNT-Leonardo

09-05-2008, 09:09 AM

Right...two different plots. Even though both series are two parts of the SAME
manga :roll:

Yeah, I know.

God, I don't like how Piccolo looks at all.

3. Green? No. In the original Manga, Piccolo was "colorless". He was white. I'm pretty sure James Wong said he was basing this off the original manga.

Um...considering the comic wasn't colored they were ALL white. When you see him on covers, or any other promotional art, he was most definitely green.

Ninjinister

09-05-2008, 02:20 PM

http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/21M6BD5VJKL._SL500_AA140_.jpghttp://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/511T3D3RGWL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

Thank you, Krang. You saved me from having to do it.

Drtooth

09-05-2008, 03:05 PM

http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/21M6BD5VJKL._SL500_AA140_.jpghttp://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/511T3D3RGWL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

Exactly....

By that logic, the Turtles could have been purple and brown with shocking pink masks because the original comic was "Black and white."

Mecha Cow

09-05-2008, 05:51 PM

the Turtles could have been purple and brown with shocking pink masks
Well, the original Donatello action figure sort of looked like that.

AquaParade

09-07-2008, 06:51 PM

:lol: It cracks me up that you guys think my logic behind Piccollo being green is due to the black and white pages. What I'm saying is he was actually referred to as white. Re-read my post

Krang

09-08-2008, 12:45 AM

What I'm saying is he was actually referred to as white.
In which chapter?

Re-read my post
Nice try, but your previous post didn't say that. :P

FlawedCoil82

09-08-2008, 01:50 AM

Wow, well I was a bigger fan of the Dragonball Z anime than the manga (or Dragonball/Dragonball GT stuff). Piccolo looks pretty bad there, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if he ends up turning green eventually. Kinda like in the X-Men movie when Rogue didn't get her trademark white stripe in her hair until the end of the movie. I think the same will happen here with Piccolo, and he may even transform to give himself the antennae as well. Just a thought...
Jack

AquaParade

09-11-2008, 02:09 PM

In which chapter?

Nice try, but your previous post didn't say that. :P

Got me there8)...I didn't say it in my previous post. I thought I had said he was "referred" to as colorless, but I only said he "was" colorless. Anyway, I couldn't tell you the chapter, I'm not sure. I believe it was during Vegeta and Nappa's visit to earth though.

Raph's Girl

09-26-2008, 07:04 PM

In a recent interview James Wong was asked if Master Roshi is perverted. Here's his answer:

http://dbthemovie.com/2008/09/24/is-roshi-perverted/

Is Roshi true to the manga character? “Yes, somewhat,” said director James Wong. “We kept his main features, like his humor. But in the manga Roshi is a true sexual pervert, which wouldn’t work in a family film. So we removed that part of the character.”

“I discovered that Dragonball had such a rich universe that it would take several films to cover all of its treasures. My goal with this movie is not to convince existing fans that Dragonball is great, they already know this, but to give a new audience. More adults, as I was a neophyte myself before discovering the manga!”

Wouldn't work in a family film??? This is a family film now?! WTF?!

Mecha Cow

09-26-2008, 07:58 PM

Nonsense. The Dragonball cartoon is for kids too, and Roshi's downright lecherous there. While I'd say that's a bit much, it's perfectly possible to adapt the character's flirtatious nature while keeping things 'family friendly'.

Of course, it's become obvious that this movie isn't going to win any awards for being faithful to its source material, but if they're going to change things they should at least be up front about it instead of making flimsy excuses.

poiuytre

09-27-2008, 07:35 AM

I don't think all the fighting and monsters are very 'family friendly' either. If only they could replace that with high school drama.

Drtooth

09-27-2008, 10:14 AM

Is Roshi true to the manga character? “Yes, somewhat,” said director James Wong. “We kept his main features, like his humor. But in the manga Roshi is a true sexual pervert, which wouldn’t work in a family film. So we removed that part of the character.”

“I discovered that Dragonball had such a rich universe that it would take several films to cover all of its treasures. My goal with this movie is not to convince existing fans that Dragonball is great, they already know this, but to give a new audience. More adults, as I was a neophyte myself before discovering the manga!”

Family Friendly... Okay. If the other gigundo red flags didn't tell this movie's gonna suck like hell, dumbing down everything to fit a souped up G movie called a PG movie sure does.

Frick... this isn't the "suitable for ages 5 and up" (a tag line in the back of the Lion's gate releases) dub where everything has to be sanitized. They can make lech jokes in a freaking PG movie. What the hell about that scene in Shrek where the Prince is naked in bed, asking a horrified, disgusted Magic Mirror to keep replaying clips of Princess Fiona? If that wasn't a lech joke, I don't know what is. I don't expect references to "puff Puffs" but come ON!!!

gobo

09-27-2008, 10:26 AM

They can make lech jokes in a freaking PG movie. What the hell about that scene in Shrek where the Prince is naked in bed, asking a horrified, disgusted Magic Mirror to keep replaying clips of Princess Fiona? If that wasn't a lech joke, I don't know what is.
Why ya gotta hit that nail on the head? What has it ever done to you??

Cipher

09-27-2008, 10:40 AM

I can't believe I hadn't found this thread before.

Anyway, I'm a huge fan of Dragonball, and I have immense respect for it. But I don't take it near seriously enough (like it was ever supposed to be taken seriously) to boycott an unfaithful movie adaptation. I don't care if this movie is terrible, I'll still see it opening night, and if it sucks, it's not like I won't have the show to watch anymore.

Still, ruling out lechery in a PG movie is a major head-scratcher. Dragonball has always been aimed at kids, and Roshi's always been a major creep.

Drtooth

09-27-2008, 10:09 PM

Anyway, I'm a huge fan of Dragonball, and I have immense respect for it. But I don't take it near seriously enough (like it was ever supposed to be taken seriously) to boycott an unfaithful movie adaptation. I don't care if this movie is terrible, I'll still see it opening night, and if it sucks, it's not like I won't have the show to watch anymore.

Boycott my eye. I just ain't botherin' to see it. Who wants to see mild PG violence anyway? Look how it screwed with TMNT.

No, even a crappy DB movie NEEDS to be PG 13. If Spidey and Batman can get away with PG13 movies, and get made into kid's fruit snacks, diapers, and cute blocky figures, Dragon Ball should.

There better had be a wave of amazing merchandise to make me feel better.