Dinosaur King - Worst Pokemon Rip-off ever

[Wildcat]

I figured this was the best place too bring up this topic,since the cartoon airs right after TMNT:FF.

For some reason IMDB dosn't have a page for it...but heres this if ya wanna see more: http://www.dinosaurking.com/

First...I cant say enough how sick I am of all these Card/Monster battle type shows...the only one I have true respect for is Pokemon...because it was the original and everyone else just rips it off.

I mean my gosh....theres Yu-gi-oh,Digimon,Chaotic and now Dinosaur King....and Im probly missing one.

Perhaps some of you saw it,like I said it comes out right after TMNT....it premired this weekend.

When I saw "Dinosaur King" on my on-screen TV guide...I thought...hmmm...sounds kinda good and Iv always liked Dinosaurs so I'll watch it.

Seriously....I went into it thinking it was some type of cartoon with talking Dinosaur characters or people who were trapped in some dinosaur world....boy was I wrong.

I dont need to explain the bases for the show,since we all know how Pokemon and such works....but look at the big ways it rips-off Pokemon....I mean besides Dinos theres not much diffrent.

1.The main character sounds very much like Ash...Im sure its the same voice actor..but again IMDB didnt have a page so I couldnt check.

2.He has 2 friends(a guy and girl) and one small Dinosaur freind that follows them....sound familar?...lets see Ash has Brock and Misty(though thats changed kinda) and Pikachu follows them around.

3.Theres 3 main villians...a guy,a woman and a shorter goofy guy...again,sound familar?....Team Rocket and Meowth

Besides that...the dinosaurs are supposed to be some kinda 3D-ish CGI..but they just look like crappy card-board in stop-motion animation.

As you can see in the link,its from SEGA...up til now,I never knew Sega made a card-battle game....and why did 4kids greenlight the show when Chaotic is the same idea?

[Roseangelo]

As much as I didn't think Dinosaur King should be compared to Pokemon when I first read the show description, after having seeing the first episode I totally agree. It was horrible. And it didn't help that the main character IS Ash Ketchum in voice. And I'm pretty sure the old voices of Jesse and James were the two "bad guys" who are obviously going to follow the kids around in every episode. It's like they're trying to make it as much like Pokemon as possible, even beyond the original concept.

[The Terror of Death]

First...I cant say enough how sick I am of all these Card/Monster battle type shows...the only one I have true respect for is Pokemon...because it was the original and everyone else just rips it off.

I mean my gosh....theres Yu-gi-oh,Digimon,


:lol: I stopped reading right there because you obviously dont know what your talking about.

[Wildcat]

:lol: I stopped reading right there because you obviously dont know what your talking about.

Whats that supposed too mean?...Yu-gi-Oh and Digimon(while they have their certain aspects of originality) are the same basic idea as Pokemon.

[Peanut]

Don't dis Digimon. Not only is the entire "which came first" debate about Pokemon and Digimon still undecided, but Digimon is completely different in every way from Pokemon. There's absolutely no collecting aspect to it at all and the anime was actually watchable.

[Wildcat]

Don't dis Digimon. Not only is the entire "which came first" debate about Pokemon and Digimon still undecided, but Digimon is completely different in every way from Pokemon. There's absolutely no collecting aspect to it at all and the anime was actually watchable.

Oh..well I dont really have anything against Digimon...I mean its certainly better than this "Dinosaur King".

I just meant there were too many card/monster battle type cartoons.

And even if Digimon doesnt have the "Collecting" aspect....you have too admit...Pokemon and Digimon are the same in thier basic idea....

Many diffrent mosters/characters fight others for thier owners/trainers....regaurdless of which series came first.

[Raph's Girl]

Yea.. Dinosaur King is essentially a Pokemon rip off. It's got the original cast. Team Alpha is Team Rocket with a T Rex. The good guys are a dad who's a Paleontologist (Just call him Prof. Oak and get it done with :P), his son (Ash), the friends (Misty and Brock) and a baby Triceratops named Chomp (if they had named it Chomper would they had to pay the folks of Land Before Time for the use of the name?) who is adorably cute (hugs all her Triceratops plushies) yet has Pikachu's colouring.

Im kinda willing to give this series a shot cuz well I like Dinosaurs and I wanna see what other dinos they'll get (perhaps a Parasauralophus? ).

Unfortunatly as of the 22nd it's on at the same time as The Batman....and well sorry dinos but Clancy Brown's Lex Luthor always comes first in my book :D

[Peanut]

And even if Digimon doesnt have the "Collecting" aspect....you have too admit...Pokemon and Digimon are the same in thier basic idea....

Many diffrent mosters/characters fight others for thier owners/trainers....regaurdless of which series came first.

In a way, but Digimon was more about those monsters fighting to save their partners/friends rather than just battling to win for their owner/trainer. They alsonever fought other "trainers", at least not until season 3, but even in that season it was rare.

But yeah. I totally get what you're saying, man.

[Spike Spiegel]

The two minutes of this show that I saw last weekend were abysmal...now that I've seen this thread, I'm never watching it again.

[Storm Wolf]

I never much cared for Pokemon the show myself, and after Gold and Silver and I haven't played the games either. Simply because they keep adding Pokemon on top of Pokemon. It was hard enough in the original trying to train up a perfect team to beat the game...let alone having...what...is 670 to choose from by now?

As for the card/battle games...I've viewed A few and don't like them...every episode seems the same to me...I mean battles consist of the same desperation every time and their is always a "miraculous" comeback.

As for Digimon...I loved the show but after I think it was season 2 I lost interest. When I eventually picked it back up...the people were turning INTO the digimon...so that ruined it completely for me.

[ZariusTwo]

Please watch Digimon Tamers. You will not regret that you watched a "pocket monster" show that actually doesnt insult an audience.

[Drtooth]

I will say they all suck. And the only good thing about Pokemon were the villains, and even that got old after 3 minutes. Yes, we could get into the Poke/Digi debate, but I will say this. Saban/Fox ONLY brought Digimon over to the US to cash in of Pokemon's US success. It may not be a ripoff of Poke, persay, but they intended to use the show to rip it off. Sort of like when they made Action Man a ripoff of Max Steel. Action Man came out in the 60's, but by borrowing different plot elements and such, they made it a knockoff.

I'm talking in a business sense, mind you. Not talking about the show's quality.



Secondly, is it just me, or does the CGI look like it came straight out of 1989? seriously. I mean, look at the show Kirby. When they merged 2-D anime style with CGI they did a good job.... even though the beginning of the series, it did look jerky.

But slowing the CGI down so it matches the slowed down style of anime? it's just....ugh...


Thirdly... I've said it before, I'll say it again.... Mushiking. Look it up. That looks like the perfect candidate for 4Kids to bring over here. I bet they can even get past the bug collection hobby that's more prevalent in Japan. Why on Earth are they trying to make money by making the same mistakes? Most people hate them for ruining One Piece with a TV Y7 dub on American TV (with some of the most rediculous censorship crap around, though not as bad as Mikey not having Nunchucks). I have a problem with them because whoever runs the company does NOT know beans about business.

And Fourthly... if I want to watch a fighting anime, I'll watch one where the characters fight EACH OTHER. No hiding behind cards. No cockfights with bizzare looking animals. Hand to hand combat. I did love Shaman King, though. But it really had substance. But seriously, I want to see 2 combatants fight each other, even if they need Kameha Meah waves to do it.

[BubblyShell22]

When I saw the previews for Dinosaur King, I knew it was going to be a bad show, so I didn't watch it. I think it's just dumb. Does anyone remember Dinosaucers? At first, I thought Dinosaur King was gonna be like that, but I found out that it wasn't by the previews. I may watch one show just to see if I like it, but I doubt I will.

[Drtooth]

Dinosaurs don't need this show dragging them down... they already have this dumbass dragging the good name of "Dinosaur" through the mud...

http://www.ntuc.org.sg/images/barney2.jpg

[Peanut]

I never got the Barney hate. It's a show for little f*cking kids. It's not even on at a time where you should be home if you're 5 or older. People are so lame.

[DrSpengler]

As much as I didn't think Dinosaur King should be compared to Pokemon when I first read the show description, after having seeing the first episode I totally agree. It was horrible. And it didn't help that the main character IS Ash Ketchum in voice. And I'm pretty sure the old voices of Jesse and James were the two "bad guys" who are obviously going to follow the kids around in every episode. It's like they're trying to make it as much like Pokemon as possible, even beyond the original concept.

Maybe the Pokemon cast are just getting their revenge for being fired last season and replaced by talentless scabs?

[The Terror of Death]

Maybe the Pokemon cast are just getting their revenge for being fired last season and replaced by talentless scabs?

Hey! Those guys are doing a pretty good job.

[Roseangelo]

Maybe the Pokemon cast are just getting their revenge for being fired last season and replaced by talentless scabs?

Well, they weren't fired. Nintendo just took the dubbing duties away from 4Kids, whom the voice actors all work for.

[Wildcat]

Dinosaurs don't need this show dragging them down... they already have this dumbass dragging the good name of "Dinosaur" through the mud...

http://www.ntuc.org.sg/images/barney2.jpg

lol...well I used to like watching Barney back when I was a little kid....but I dont watch it anymore.

One of the points I wanted too make...errr the question I wanted too pose was....why did so many companies feel the need to jump on the "Card/monster battle" band-wagon???....its rediculous...

Out of every genre of cartoons,it seems this is most that everyone wants too rip-off.....I mean you dont see a bunch Power Rangers rip-offs and they have been around for years.And ya dont see a bunch of TMNT rip-offs using frogs or something else instead of turtles....or Transformers rip-offs...but that would be kinda hard too make a knock-off out of.

Also...why in the world did Sega need too get into this?....they are doing more good in the video game industry(even though they dropped out of the hardware market)

[DrSpengler]

Well, they weren't fired. Nintendo just took the dubbing duties away from 4Kids, whom the voice actors all work for.

Was that it? I had heard it was pay issues, that the 4Kids cast was too expensive so they figured they could save a few bucks by replacing them with inexperienced sound-a-likes.

[Peanut]

Also...why in the world did Sega need too get into this?....they are doing more good in the video game industry

ROFL! Since when!?

[ZariusTwo]

Sega? Oh yeah, that rotting pile that killed off their biggest franchise on virtually every system trying to make him Mario.

Out of every genre of cartoons,it seems this is most that everyone wants too rip-off.....I mean you dont see a bunch Power Rangers rip-offs and they have been around for years

Actually, there really isnt any way of "knocking off PR" because Toei kept an iron clad grip on virtually every show it made, and Saban created other similar series based on those other shows due to his contract with them. VR Troopers, Beetleborgs etc, were all developed by the same company. The only ones that could be called a "rip-off" are SSSS, and Tattoted Teenage Alien Fights because they were developed by DIC.

And ya dont see a bunch of TMNT rip-offs

TMNT hasnt been big enough to rip-off in years.

[Peanut]

Who made SHSCS!? That show was hilarious.

[ZariusTwo]

Who made SHSCS!? That show was hilarious.

DIC, I didnt include "H" because "Superhuman" is one word.

[Jester]

SSCS looked like it was a Ultraman rip off, did it have anything to do with that show?

[ZariusTwo]

No, it was an Ultraman rip-off.

[Drtooth]

I never got the Barney hate. It's a show for little f*cking kids. It's not even on at a time where you should be home if you're 5 or older. People are so lame.


You clearly didn't have a younger sibling who was a baby in 1992, did you? But then that's almost sending your kids to Harvard compared with Nick Jr's line up.

TMNT hasnt been big enough to rip-off in years.

That's a good thing. i hate TMNT knockoffs. And I don't even mean the "Snaliens/Street Sharks" type toy deal things. I mean the lousy B+W comic books. One or 2 for parody is fun, but then everyone jumped on the ambiguous "Is it a parody or a knockoff" bandwagon.

Actually, there really isnt any way of "knocking off PR" because Toei kept an iron clad grip on virtually every show it made, and Saban created other similar series based on those other shows due to his contract with them. VR Troopers, Beetleborgs etc, were all developed by the same company. The only ones that could be called a "rip-off" are SSSS, and Tattoted Teenage Alien Fights because they were developed by DIC.


And let us not forget some company that brought over Ultraman for a brief period in the 90's. See, something can be created first, but by using an old propert to cash in off a newer property, you can make a ripoff by copying it's popularity.

Which sucks, cuz I really enjoy Ultraman.

[Peanut]

You clearly didn't have a younger sibling who was a baby in 1992, did you? But then that's almost sending your kids to Harvard compared with Nick Jr's line up.

Actually, my little sister was 4 in 1992. She watched Barney all the time, and even had a ton of toys and stuff, but it still didn't bother me. You know why? Because I wasn't an immature little punk who couldn't tell the difference between a show made for toddlers and one made for someone in my age bracket. Grow up.

[Raph's Girl]

And ya dont see a bunch of TMNT rip-offs

Well...Street Sharks was actually kinda created in the 70's. Samurai Pizza Cats is kinda a spoof of TMNT...they even make fun of em in their theme song. *L*

But just remember this... TMNT itself is a spoof of Daredevil (and the ironic thing is I don't even like Daredevil.....)

[Drtooth]

Actually, my little sister was 4 in 1992. She watched Barney all the time, and even had a ton of toys and stuff, but it still didn't bother me. You know why? Because I wasn't an immature little punk who couldn't tell the difference between a show made for toddlers and one made for someone in my age bracket. Grow up.

I can tell the difference... but when it blasts into your room at 10000 decibles of that annoying song, you just can't ignore that, no matter how hard you try. Remember a lot of people who hated him were
The parents who were forced to watch the show with their kids.

Truth is I know a kid's show from an adult show. But I also know the difference between a good kids show and a bad kids show. Sesame Street lasted for almost 40 years. New Zoo Revue is a little known knockoff that only a few kids of the 70's remember, and it is rerun on home shopping channels in compliance with FCC regulations to give lip service to their educational TV requirement.

Barney, kids show or not, was a very poorly produced Sesame wannabe. it was so cheaply done that you can see the zipper. And now we get even worse kid's shows. End of story.

Well...Street Sharks was actually kinda created in the 70's. Samurai Pizza Cats is kinda a spoof of TMNT...they even make fun of em in their theme song. *L*


Pizza Cats is no ripoff or parody of the TMNT. The dub may make it that way, especially the theme song (there so bad/ they got more fur than any turtle ever had). But if it was a parody of anything, it's the sentai show. Remember it was dubbed by Saban, who was really milking the sentai genre then.

[BigApple3AM]

ya dont see a bunch of TMNT rip-offs using frogs or something else instead of turtles....or Transformers rip-offs...but that would be kinda hard too make a knock-off out of.

Battletoads? .... Gobots?
Gobots/Transformers is sort of like Digimon/Pokemon where we don't truly know which came first. We do know which is better though.

Well...Street Sharks was actually kinda created in the 70's.
Say what?


But just remember this... TMNT itself is a spoof of Daredevil (and the ironic thing is I don't even like Daredevil.....)

They pulled from all sorts of things, like x-men, teen titans, ronin, daredevil, jack kirby, etc... But in that case it was an obvious spoof, not a rip off.
Plus TMNT grew into something that I honestly think is better than what it spoofed in the first place. All that plus I think TMNT has more humble origins, they weren't a corporation with marketing executives and analysts and all that crap. They didn't even think they'd make money (or so they say). I give TMNT the benefit of the doubt over any crappy card show.

[Raph's Girl]

Saw the 2nd ep of this series...

The 2 other kids got their dinos today...The Misty wannabe, Zoe got a Parasauralophus she named Paris....apperantly the parasauralophus is a grass type (why does the transformation sequence for these dinos remind me of Sailor Moon? ). ATM it's main power is healing others in battle. Paris is adorably cute in it's Chibi form with the big Anime eyes. *lol*
http://www.4kids.tv/images/funstuff/dinoking/wallpaper/paris01.jpg

The Brock wannabe (who's dad is appearantly another Paleontologist...both of the dads are irritating as all heck) has a Carnotaurus (it's power card is a hurricane...which is odd considering that the first time it's used is in Egypt).

Bad guys ended up with a Spinosaurus (which beat the crap out of Chomp).

I think they've gone too far with Chomp making him an electric type Pokemon er Dinosaur.... :roll:

Now the opening theme song mentions having "Jurrasic giants in your hand.."...I've yet to see a Jurrasic period dino in this show...so far they're all Cretaceous period dinos! :roll:

[BubblyShell22]

I saw part of this ep, and had to turn the channel because the dads were so annoying. So I didn't see all of what you wrote in the spoiler. Chomp is cute, but I don't like the show at all. It just doesn't appeal to me.

[Drtooth]

Now the opening theme song mentions having "Jurrasic giants in your hand.."...I've yet to see a Jurrasic period dino in this show...so far they're all Cretaceous period dinos! :roll:

That's dumb, even for a company that thinks that every dub needs a million bad puns per second. But they are trying to get really dumb 7 year olds to buy toys.

Wondser how long it's gonna be before some weirdo that's in his late teens, late 20's complains that 4Kids raped this show, and it actually had substance to it? Dispite the fact it's a piece of crap.

Poor Dinosaurs. Run around, ruling the Earth... now they're cookies and stupid TV Shows.

[BubblyShell22]

Yeah, now dinosaurs have been reduced to nothing more than fodder for a trading card game. I'm pretty sure this will have some sort of trading card game for kids to collect the cards.

[Drtooth]

I'm pretty sure this will have some sort of trading card game for kids to collect the cards.

Hey, if they didn't, there would be no reason for 4Kids to even show it. Or anyone for that matter.

[BubblyShell22]

Yeah, that's true. But it's a dumb show.

[Raph's Girl]

Yeah, now dinosaurs have been reduced to nothing more than fodder for a trading card game. I'm pretty sure this will have some sort of trading card game for kids to collect the cards.

Actually the tv series is based on a trading card game created by Sega in 2005. They wanted something to rival Yu Gi Oh and Pokemon or something. I doubt this will happen tho. Having a yellow Triceratops with electric powers doesn't help at all....

But yes it's been confirmed that Veronica Taylor voices Max (wouldn't be surprised if she voices Dr. Z's grandson as well). Darren Dunstan (Splinter) voices characters as well in the series.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur_King

[BubblyShell22]

Oh, it was based off of a trading card game. I see. Well, the concept may sound good, but the show sucks.

[Drtooth]

Actually the tv series is based on a trading card game created by Sega in 2005. They wanted something to rival Yu Gi Oh and Pokemon or something. I doubt this will happen tho. Having a yellow Triceratops with electric powers doesn't help at all....


And the fact that those card games are pretty much old hat now also doesn't help.

Don't worry! If they can't sell Merchandising, this will only be on a year or two.

[Leogeddon]

what bothers me the most about this card game is there's no sure fire way of winning except over luck. Also, Tsintaosaurus's horn REALLY looks like a penis now. >: (