I've got bad news...

[Ninja Tiptup]

TMNT II wont be coming to the Virtual Console. At least any time soon.

http://gonintendo.com/?p=25990

I feel so betrayed. I bought TMNT 1, what more do they want from me? :cry:

[KROW]

Hmm. Well, I bought TMNT I, II, III, and IV. That alone should cement it's inclusion into the Virtual Console. :P

But seriously, like the blogger said, it doesn't mean that it definitely won't be featured on it. Maybe a few dozen annoying e-mails a day from us TMNT fans would get Nintendo's eyes open.

[Spitfire]

Don't you own an NES? If not you should get one their pretty cheap.

And Nintendo was dumb for putting the first one out first, no ones going to buy that game it's terrible. It's nothing like the other 2 but they figure since it probably sold poorly the others would to.

[CyberCubed]

That is untrue, people probably bought the first one because:

a) The nostalgia
b) They didn't know any better

One theory people put forth is TMNT II uses the classic theme song which is owned by Fred Wolf. I hope the fact that it uses the old toon music hasn't caused any contract problems.

[Juniorx]

oh man.maybe they should put turtles in time,tourmament fighters,oh and manhattan project on the vc that right there would make alot money.did those three did successful while have they forgot about thoses.i still dont have a wii yet working that still i wouldnt bought that tmnt 1st game on the vc aready.its hard to find a old nes system now days.dont bother order on amazon they'll end up sending you a bootleg nes system.is there anyway we all could contact about this.

[MrPliggins]

that's alright..i've already got a virtual console problem (I have 23 games, sheesh). This game will probably be out sometime in the future, but id rather have tmnt4 or hyperstone heist.

[Spitfire]

That is untrue, people probably bought the first one because:

a) The nostalgia
b) They didn't know any better

One theory people put forth is TMNT II uses the classic theme song which is owned by Fred Wolf. I hope the fact that it uses the old toon music hasn't caused any contract problems.

The whole internet knew how bad it was when that gamer nerd reviewed it. Alot of people watch those videos.

[Kendamu]

The article itself mentions the ESRB. So, maybe the ESRB has more to do with it than Nintendo does.

[Ninjinister]

The whole internet knew how bad it was when that gamer nerd reviewed it. Alot of people watch those videos.

Wait, what?

[Kendamu]

Wait, what?
Apparently, after the AVGN did his review of the original TMNT game for NES, everyone took it way too seriously and the idea of "this was definitely not the best TMNT game but it's an alright game" suddenly (and magically) became "THAT GAM IZ T3H SUX!!!1" without any real reason beyond that it's really challenging.

I guess people forgot that Shinobi and Ninja Gaiden were very challenging as well.

[ToTheNines]

I've hated that game since I was rolling around in a Big Wheel. It is enjoyable for a bit after you get past the dam, then the level after you beat the Mecha-Turtle is too hard for me. But it is the worst TMNT I've ever played, yet aint as bad as the Nerd makes it out to be (but he reviewed it like that for fun, and I do love the review). So basically the game sucks, and people are dissing it for no reason... even tho if they did play they likely would have a reason.

[Kendamu]

I dunno. Really, I just use a bit of strategy and think ahead a little and I'm good to go until I get inside the 'Drome. Then it gets really hard. Once I got beyond the myth that Don is the only useful TMNT it got easier.

EDIT: I mean, if you really hate the game that much then I'm not about to change your opinion. I just think that there are a lot of people out there who are a lot better at playing video games than I am who talk about how TMNT is too challenging after you save April while I'm able to get inside the freakin' Technodrome before I even use my first Continue.

The AVGN is really awesome! He's one of my favorite Internet characters to watch. I just think that people take him too seriously in some cases. Sure, he has reviewed some pretty horrible games, but even professional gaming sites that give professional reviews started seriously hating on the original TMNT game after the Nerd did it for comedy.

I mean, it'd be like if someone took the Colbert Report seriously! It's pretty stupid.

Okay, I'm done with this thread hijack.

[ZariusTwo]

The whole internet knew how bad it was when that gamer nerd reviewed it. Alot of people watch those videos.

Spit, the review was one of the only times the AVGN was ever staying faithful to his original ideas (he would nitpick fairly memorable and appreciated games and treat them like they were crap), then he found it easier to actually review legitimatly s*itty games.

Goon has a point, people took, and STILL take, the AVGN's reviews far too seriously and forget that it's an act, so the first NES TMNT game went from being appreciated for it's difficult gameplay to being reviled for it.

I recall he recently had a crossover with Captain S, and people didnt "get" why the AVGN wasnt allowed to utter ONE profanity in the special (because Captain S is a parody of old-school series like Captain N and Power Rangers) and attacked, unfairly, the production team behind Captain S for "censoring the Nerd", when the Nerd was simply combining his comedy routine with another artist out of respect.

[Spitfire]

Spit, the review was one of the only times the AVGN was ever staying faithful to his original ideas (he would nitpick fairly memorable and appreciated games and treat them like they were crap), then he found it easier to actually review legitimatly s*itty games.

Goon has a point, people took, and STILL take, the AVGN's reviews far too seriously and forget that it's an act, so the first NES TMNT game went from being appreciated for it's difficult gameplay to being reviled for it.

I recall he recently had a crossover with Captain S, and people didnt "get" why the AVGN wasnt allowed to utter ONE profanity in the special (because Captain S is a parody of old-school series like Captain N and Power Rangers) and attacked, unfairly, the production team behind Captain S for "censoring the Nerd", when the Nerd was simply combining his comedy routine with another artist out of respect.

Yeah I know, exactly my point. Hell even I own the first TMNT game for NES.

[Aelia]

This news is all sorts of fail. I was looking forward to all three on that list.

[Ninjinister]

Apparently, after the AVGN did his review of the original TMNT game for NES, everyone took it way too seriously and the idea of "this was definitely not the best TMNT game but it's an alright game" suddenly (and magically) became "THAT GAM IZ T3H SUX!!!1" without any real reason beyond that it's really challenging.

I guess people forgot that Shinobi and Ninja Gaiden were very challenging as well.

I recall he recently had a crossover with Captain S, and people didnt "get" why the AVGN wasnt allowed to utter ONE profanity in the special (because Captain S is a parody of old-school series like Captain N and Power Rangers) and attacked, unfairly, the production team behind Captain S for "censoring the Nerd", when the Nerd was simply combining his comedy routine with another artist out of respect.

I'm still perplexed. AVGN? I'm a captain now?.... o.o What the heck does any of this have to do with TMNT...?

[TheAnimatedSeries]

TMNT is a good game. If you beat it, ULTRA sends an agent to wipe you out.

[Kendamu]

TMNT is a good game. If you beat it, ULTRA sends an agent to wipe you out.
They're a little late because I haven't gotten my agent yet.

[Magneto]

They're a little late because I haven't gotten my agent yet.

It's because of your mask.

You see, ULTRA agents are a superstitious, cowardly lot.

[odupianist]

Whatever happened to ULTRA

[TheAnimatedSeries]

Whatever happened to ULTRA

The Batman took them out, apparently.

[Kendamu]

ULTRA is Konami... sort of.

Here's how it works. I got this from Wikipedia when I searched up Ultra Games (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_%28company%29):

Ultra Software Corporation was a spinoff company created in 1988 as a subsidiary of Konami of America, in an effort to get around Nintendo of America's strict licensing rules. One of these rules was that a third-party company could only publish up to five games per year for the Nintendo Entertainment System in the US. This was hardly convenient for Konami, which had begun releasing more than ten games a year for both the Famicom and Famicom Disk System in Japan. With a greater library than they were allowed to localize, Konami formed the Ultra Games brand to extend their annual library to ten games a year.

Ultra's first two NES games were Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (based on the TV series) and Metal Gear (a port/adaption of the MSX2 game of the same name). At first, Ultra was dedicated to localizing Konami's pre-existing software from Japan, but later they began publishing works from other companies as well. Some of Konami's most notable games released under the Ultra label include Operation C (a Game Boy game from the Contra series), Snake's Revenge (a semi-sequel to the original Metal Gear) and the various Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles titles for the NES and Game Boy.

After the North American launch of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System, Nintendo became less strict on the number of games third-parties could publish. As a result, Ultra Games began losing its purpose and Konami shortly dropped the label in 1992.

In Europe, Konami established the Palcom Software Limited subsidiary for similar purposes. Their library was similar to Ultra's, but the company also published games that were not released in America such as Parodius and Pop'n Twinbee.

[Spitfire]

Well according to Wiki they were nothing more then a spin-off of Konami*Menaing Konami made all the turtles games* and they disbanded in 1992.

Ultra's first two NES games were Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (based on the TV series) and Metal Gear (a port/adaption of the MSX2 game of the same name). At first, Ultra was dedicated to localizing Konami's pre-existing software from Japan, but later they began publishing works from other companies as well. Some of Konami's most notable games released under the Ultra label include Operation C (a Game Boy game from the Contra series), Snake's Revenge (a semi-sequel to the original Metal Gear) and the various Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles titles for the NES and Game Boy.

After the North American launch of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System, Nintendo became less strict on the number of games third-parties could publish. As a result, Ultra Games began losing its purpose and Konami shortly dropped the label in 1992.

EDIT: And not noticing there's another page hahaha sorry for the repeat info guys.

[tOkKa]

TMNT II wont be coming to the Virtual Console. At least any time soon.

http://gonintendo.com/?p=25990

I feel so betrayed. I bought TMNT 1, what more do they want from me? :cry:

-->> Thanks for the tip , N TT :sick:

[Juniorx]

nintendo lie then they said every old nintendo game that was going come on the vc.is there anyway to email let them all know we want the rest of old tmnt games.thats part of the reason why im getting the wii the old turtle games.

[Spitfire]

It'd be cheaper to just buy a NES and the games.

[The Shelf]

nintendo lie then they said every old nintendo game that was going come on the vc.is there anyway to email let them all know we want the rest of old tmnt games.thats part of the reason why im getting the wii the old turtle games.

Nintendo never said that every old Nintendo game was coming to the VC. In fact, I thought they made it very clear that a lot of games would come to the VC, but not all or even most.

That said, just go to the Nintendo site and contact them from there. We need more TMNT games on the VC, dag-nabbit!

[turkishproverb]

Nintendo never said that every old Nintendo game was coming to the VC. In fact, I thought they made it very clear that a lot of games would come to the VC, but not all or even most.

That said, just go to the Nintendo site and contact them from there. We need more TMNT games on the VC, dag-nabbit!

Actually, your half right. They DID say they planned on putting all the games they developed for the old systems on there, but warned 3rd party games would be anyone's guess.

[Kendamu]

I wonder if the removal of the game has something to do with it having Pizza Hut logos all over the place.

[shuriken]

It'd be cheaper to just buy a NES and the games.

Yeah I saw a NES at the thrift store for like 12 bucks plus an extra controller. I was actually gonna buy it but decided not to cuz there's a chance it wouldn't work. Strangely enough I also saw the original TMNT game for $1.50. I kinda regret not getting it now...

[Kendamu]

That reminds me. I might grab my NES and games next time I visit my parents. Might as well since TMNT games aren't really hitting the Virtual Console anytime soon.

[Miyamoto_Usagi]

Apparently, after the AVGN did his review of the original TMNT game for NES, everyone took it way too seriously and the idea of "this was definitely not the best TMNT game but it's an alright game" suddenly (and magically) became "THAT GAM IZ T3H SUX!!!1" without any real reason beyond that it's really challenging.

I guess people forgot that Shinobi and Ninja Gaiden were very challenging as well.

I totally agree. I think the TMNT for nes was great. It was challenging but I still was able to beat it at the age of 11. I have beat it 5 times at the least. The beef alot of people had with this game is that they expected it to be like cartoon. The cover of the game would suggest its not. If you recall most nintendo games were insanely hard. The games out now are way less challenging.

Also TMNT for nes was 6th as one of the most sold games for nes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#Nintendo_Entertainment_System

It's still the most played of the tmnt games with a 4.6 out of a 5 star rating at Every Video Game. You can play the nes TMNT games here also. http://www.everyvideogame.com/gamelist.php?s=teenage

Back to the main subject I am sure in time Nintendo will release more games a long with the other TMNT games for VC. For now I am not at loss because I still have my nintendo with the old TMNT games. 8)

[ThirdMarioBro]

One theory people put forth is TMNT II uses the classic theme song which is owned by Fred Wolf. I hope the fact that it uses the old toon music hasn't caused any contract problems.

Fred Wolf didn't stop the original TMNT arcade game from landing on the XBLA intact. This is a downgraded port of that same material.

I don't think this means anything. If you'll remember, Super Metroid was taken off the ESRB list as well. It eventually showed up. Recently, Super Mario RPG was jerked off the ESRB list. There isn't any way that wouldn't show up later. Point is, I wouldn't worry much about it. Its likely just a timing issue.


Regardless though, whatever games I can't buy the legal way, I'll just take care of the illegal way in four or five years.

[Kendamu]

So, lack-of-ESRB listing doesn't mean lack-of-Virtual Console appearance, then?

Awesome.

Now only if they'd hurry up and put out the original Star Fox, Sonic & Knuckles, and Ghosts'n'Goblins to keep me occupied.

[Ninjinister]

ULTRA is Konami... sort of.

Here's how it works. I got this from Wikipedia when I searched up Ultra Games (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_%28company%29):

... I thought this was common knowledge. I honestly knew this back in the '80s... :o