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cqb101
11-23-2007, 08:22 PM
Release Date: November 21 2008
Some casting news:
The Slug Club just got its leader: Jim Broadbent will play Hogwarts potion master Horace Slughorn in the upcoming "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince," the Oscar winner recently revealed to DarkHorizons.com
The former head of Slytherin house, Slughorn is "drawn back out of retirement" by Harry and Dumbledore at the beginning of the novel "because he's got some secrets they need in the battle against the Death Eaters," Broadbent said. Indeed, Harry's quest for a particular memory of Slughorn's is a central mission in the blockbuster sixth novel (see "Daniel Radcliffe Loses It In 'December Boys' Before Getting Back To Harry Potter").
For his part, Slughorn is initially reluctant to reveal details about a seemingly innocent conversation with a young Tom Riddle that centers on Horcruxes, or vessels in which a wizard can imprison part of his soul to keep him immortal. Thinking the damage to be irreversible, Slughorn isn't swayed until Harry confronts him during a particularly emotional scene in Hagrid's cabin.
But despite these dark and tragic undercurrents, the character is "quite comic," insisted Broadbent. "An older man [who wears] tweedy sorts of things."
Part of what makes him comic, of course, is his appearance: Slughorn is described by author J.K. Rowling as a short wizard with a bald head, large belly and an enormous walrus-like mustache. But Slughorn is also something of a professorial groupie, surrounding himself with the best and brightest witches and wizards. As leader of the Slug Club, he has an uncanny knack of picking the Hogwarts students who ultimately go on to accomplish the greatest things.
"He's quite star-struck as a teacher, and he's drawn back into the fold because he likes to notch up celebrity students," Broadbent explained. "He's drawn back by Harry."
Broadbent, who won a Best Supporting Actor Oscar for "Iris" in 2002, will film "Half-Blood Prince" until "May," the actor told Dark Horizons. The film will open next November.
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Burbank, CA (CNS) - Warner Bros. Entertainment, holder of the Harry Potter movie franchise, has released a statement regarding the additions to the sixth installment of the series - Harry Potter and The Half-Blood Prince.
Jeff Robinov, President of Production for Warner Bros. made the announcement that there will be several actors joining the mainstay cast with returning director David Yates.
Some of the additions include Academy award winner Jim Broadbent from "Iris" and "The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe," who would be playing a professor at Hogwarts. Helen McCrory who has starred in "Becoming Jane" and "The Queen" is also another award winning actor to join the cast.
Younger Potter debutants include Jessie Cave, Frank Dillane and Hero Fiennes Tiffin. Tiffin happens to be the nephew of Ralph Fiennes who plays the adult version of the main villain of the movie, Voldemort.
The Half-Blood Prince will open in theaters November 21, 2008.
Jo Dawn
11-24-2007, 08:01 PM
Yay! Can't wait.
Peanut
11-24-2007, 08:06 PM
I'm hoping this one will turn out as well as Philosophers Stone did. Since Half-Blood Prince is really so focused with it's story, it shouldn't be as hard to put it on the screen without making any major changes. Hopefully we won't lose all the special character moments that make the books so good, and the last 3 movies so average.
BubblyShell22
11-26-2007, 04:44 PM
I'm excited for this movie already. I hope it will be just as dark as OOTP was, maybe even darker with the whole Horcrux thing.
AquaParade
11-26-2007, 05:05 PM
I wish I liked Harry Potter.:|
Dr. Doom
11-26-2007, 06:32 PM
What a waste of a post.
I'm excited for this movie already. I hope it will be just as dark as OOTP was, maybe even darker with the whole Horcrux thing.
I dunno what that is, but I assume it's from the books. Let's try to keep in mind that people that watch the movies don't necessarily read the books. Thanks, everyone. :)
AquaParade
11-27-2007, 12:05 AM
What a waste of a post.
What an Ironic post:lol:
ZariusTwo
11-27-2007, 01:35 AM
Frankie Goes To Hollywood to play death-eaters Dumbledore fends off!
BubblyShell22
11-28-2007, 11:21 AM
TheCure, I'm sorry for posting that. I sometimes forget that there are certain people who only watch the movies and don't read the books. My bad. I'll try to be more careful in the future.
Mr. Snackpants
07-30-2008, 03:44 PM
New trailer:
http://movies.ign.com/dor/objects/40311/harry-potter-and-the-half-blood-prince/videos/potter_half_blood_trlr1_073008.html
Creepy. I like the dialogue at the very end. Pretty sweet.
I dunno what that is, but I assume it's from the books. Let's try to keep in mind that people that watch the movies don't necessarily read the books. Thanks, everyone. :)
What, you too poor for books?
People who only watch the movies are really missing a lot of the story. But I guess the same can be said for all books turned into movies. But if you're into the movies that much and you keep going to see each movie that comes out, maybe you should give the books a crack. They're masterpieces, in my opinion.
Mecha Cow
07-30-2008, 06:07 PM
I wouldn't go as far as calling them masterpieces but the books are definitely great and infinitely better than the movies, most of which are rather poor in my opinion. Any fan of the movies owes it to themselves to pick up the books.
Brodie
07-30-2008, 06:12 PM
What, you too poor for books?
Didn't you say your mom bought your books for you?
Didn't you say your mom bought your books for you?
That doesn't mean that I'm too poor for books. That just means I take advantage of my mom's generosity.
Peanut
07-30-2008, 07:00 PM
That doesn't mean that I'm too poor for books. That just means I take advantage of my mom's generosity.
You totally are too poor for books, though. Or anything else for that matter. At least Kev owns a 360.
Also, you're a new kid on the block. You can't start talking sh*t about Harry Potter movie fans yet. Get out!
I wouldn't go as far as calling them masterpieces
I would. I don't understand what a book requires to be called a masterpiece. Does it need to contain a ton of fancy language, deep social commentary, or an overabundance of hidden philosophical meanings to be a masterpiece?
The Harry Potter series is one of very few to actually illicit some kind of emotional response from me. They're engrossing and highly entertaining books. That's all I need.
Hannah
07-30-2008, 07:05 PM
My mommy bought my books for me!
ThirdMarioBro
07-30-2008, 07:08 PM
I need to catch up on my reading.
Mecha Cow
07-30-2008, 07:27 PM
I would. I don't understand what a book requires to be called a masterpiece. Does it need to contain a ton of fancy language, deep social commentary, or an overabundance of hidden philosophical meanings to be a masterpiece?
No, just violence, swearing and full frontal nudity.
Tinuvielsdreams
07-30-2008, 08:35 PM
Like always I absolutely can not wait for this next film
I was a little disappointed in a few of the details they have had to leave out in the past movies(Particularly in the Goblet of Fire), I am slightly worried about this film because there are a lot of things happening both past and present they have to handle. However...The little bit of Dumbledore and young Tom I saw in the trailer is really exciting!
I can't wait to see how they do the Horcruxes and see Slughorn introduced.
I usually try to read the books over again right before the respective movies comes out
Raph's Girl
08-14-2008, 11:32 PM
In a bit of a "WTF?!" news it seems that Half Blood Prince's release date has been pushed to a later date...how much later?? Try July 2009...
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b23875_harry_potter_unexpected_summer_premiere.htm l?sid=rss_topstories&utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=rss_topstories
Not that the shake-up should give Hogwarts fans any reason to worry that this latest installment in the billion-dollar franchise isn't up to snuff—studio heads say this is purely an economic decision, based on the fact that Potter No. 6 is so darn magical.
"Our reasons for shifting Half-Blood Prince to summer are twofold," Warner Bros. president Alan Horn said Thursday. "We know the summer season is an ideal window for a family tent pole release, as proven by the success of our last Harry Potter film, which is the second-highest grossing film in the franchise, behind only the first installment."
Horn also admitted that even He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named wasn't immune to the industry-wide discomfort wrought by the writers' strike.
"Like every other studio, we are still feeling the repercussions of the writers' strike, which impacted the readiness of scripts for other films—changing the competitive landscape for 2009 and offering new windows of opportunity that we wanted to take advantage of."
Warner Bros. Motion Picture Group president Jeff Robinov also made a fine point: There will now be less of a wait between the sixth and seventh (and eighth) Potter films.The studio is eyeing respective summer releases in 2010 and 2011 for the two-part Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.
The sixth book (and film) in J.K. Rowling's hit series focuses mainly on Harry and Dumbledore's search for the remaining horcruxes where Lord Voldemort has stashed his soul.
As the recently released trailer shows, a lot of the action will take place in flashbacks, featuring Hero Fiennes-Tiffin, Ralph Fiennes' nephew, as a young Damien-channeling Tom Riddle, who, as we all know, grew up to be the baddest wizard on the block.
cqb101
08-15-2008, 09:54 AM
I wouldn't say it's a "wtf" moment, it actually makes total sense.
Warhorse
08-19-2008, 09:56 PM
No, it doesn't make sense. This was the movie I was waiting for 2008, and now it's not coming because WB wants to make this into a money game. This news gives me less faith in them handling the affairs of the TMNT on the big screen.
The Stryker
08-19-2008, 11:25 PM
No, it doesn't make sense. This was the movie I was waiting for 2008, and now it's not coming because WB wants to make this into a money game. This news gives me less faith in them handling the affairs of the TMNT on the big screen.
How dare the studio want to make money!
Mecha Cow
08-20-2008, 09:38 AM
No, it doesn't make sense. This was the movie I was waiting for 2008, and now it's not coming because WB wants to make this into a money game. This news gives me less faith in them handling the affairs of the TMNT on the big screen.
So it doesn't make sense because you wanted to see the movie sooner, and the studio's business sense makes you lose faith in them. Alright then.
Sewer Bull
08-20-2008, 10:00 AM
Because making movies based on popular books is a public service.
Spitfire
08-20-2008, 10:32 AM
No, it doesn't make sense. This was the movie I was waiting for 2008, and now it's not coming because WB wants to make this into a money game.
Well for one the movie industry is getting it's ass handed to it right now by video games and illegal downloading so the fact your getting any movies at all period at this point should be a blessing. Also studios have zero idea of what will make money anymore and WB is one of the studios that took too many leaps of faith and while they recently had some big successes they also have screwed themselves and they need to dig themselves out of a hole. While Dark Knight was dominating the box office WB's stock was still going down.
Wanna know why movie tickets are so expensive? There's your answer. No ones making any profit. They spend over one hundred million on a movie like says Hellboy 2 and it only pulls in 74 million. Which is sad because it's a great movie but not what the general public wanted I guess. So because Dark Knight made so much expect tons of studios to try and cash in on it with dark comic books movies. Once people are tired of that then something else will come along.
This choice to push it back I think comes along more as them wanting it to have a good opening weekend, which I'm sure it will, but draw in more people then fans of the series. They want to hook people who aren't fans yet as well and they won't do that when there's something else interesting coming out already or if that's not what's hot on the market at the time.
cqb101
08-21-2008, 10:13 AM
No, it doesn't make sense. This was the movie I was waiting for 2008, and now it's not coming because WB wants to make this into a money game. This news gives me less faith in them handling the affairs of the TMNT on the big screen.
Shut up until you know what you're talking about. Summer is the biggest time for movies, that's when they make the most money. November is already a hot month with "Quantum of Solace" opening up only 2 weeks before HP was suppose to, and Disney's "Bolt" opening the same day. The movie would have done horrible had it stayed in that spot.
Evenstar227
08-21-2008, 11:10 AM
Shut up until you know what you're talking about.
No need to be nasty.
cqb101
07-13-2009, 01:34 AM
Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince
If you're a fan of the book, save your time and money and skip this. I'm calling it right now, disappointment of the year.
Boring, anti-climactic, overly cheesy.
The horcrux's don't even get mentioned until theres only about 30 minutes left in the film.
No funeral for Dumbledore? Seriously. Snape kills Dubledore, Harry tells Hermione and Ron he's not going back to school and then the credits roll.
Remus, one of my favorite characters is in it for maybe 5 minutes.
Snape non-chalantly tells Harry that he's the half-blood prince and than just walks away.
The movie pretty much just focuses on everyone's romantic relationships and seems to just gloss everything else over.
Mecha Cow
07-13-2009, 06:44 AM
Eep, I was afraid of that.
Mr. Snackpants
07-13-2009, 11:22 AM
Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince
If you're a fan of the book, save your time and money and skip this. I'm calling it right now, disappointment of the year.
Boring, anti-climactic, overly cheesy.
The horcrux's don't even get mentioned until theres only about 30 minutes left in the film.
No funeral for Dumbledore? Seriously. Snape kills Dubledore, Harry tells Hermione and Ron he's not going back to school and then the credits roll.
Remus, one of my favorite characters is in it for maybe 5 minutes.
Snape non-chalantly tells Harry that he's the half-blood prince and than just walks away.
The movie pretty much just focuses on everyone's romantic relationships and seems to just gloss everything else over.
How could this be 'disappointment of the year'? None of these movies have been any good. What made you think this would be any different?
cqb101
07-13-2009, 11:42 AM
How could this be 'disappointment of the year'? None of these movies have been any good. What made you think this would be any different?
While none of them have been all that great, I feel like they've been getting progressively better, while this one may be the worst yet. It had a lot of potential, too, which is a shame. The direction was fine, cinematography was good, music and sound design was great, special effects looked awesome, but the script sucked and it was the worst adaptation yet.
Mr. Snackpants
07-13-2009, 09:06 PM
While none of them have been all that great, I feel like they've been getting progressively better, while this one may be the worst yet. It had a lot of potential, too, which is a shame. The direction was fine, cinematography was good, music and sound design was great, special effects looked awesome, but the script sucked and it was the worst adaptation yet.
I see. I'm shocked reading the reviews on rotten tomatoes right now. 98%.
cqb101
07-13-2009, 10:53 PM
I see. I'm shocked reading the reviews on rotten tomatoes right now. 98%.
Yea, I'm shocked too. I'm surprised the reviews of the previous films were as good as they were, honestly.
Roseangelo
07-13-2009, 11:22 PM
The movie pretty much just focuses on everyone's romantic relationships and seems to just gloss everything else over.
Crap, and I thought I hated Order of the Phoenix.
ZariusTwo
07-13-2009, 11:42 PM
I wish they'd switch Directors and get someone more dynamic...hell, the reason they dont is because it's more expensive at this rate
I don't like Harry Potter, but the last two books roped even me in, and it's a shame the movie has to focus on it's bare-bones accomplishments and typical MTV-teen bopper simplistics
plastroncafe
07-13-2009, 11:43 PM
Wow...and here I was thinking this was my favorite of the Potter movies to date.
This is the best straight up story-telling movie since "Prisoner."
Oh yeah, they cut a metric crap load of plot from the book, but all in all I think it was a better movie for it.
Really, I think by pushing back the release date for this movie was the best thing they could have done. It's been years since I've read "Half-Blood Prince" and I think that made all the difference in the world. I went in with only a vague remembrance of what <i>had</i> to happen in this movie and really enjoyed myself.
Yeah, if you're looking for a soul-less scene by scene retelling of book six a la Chris Columbus, don't waste your money.
If you're up for seeing this world fleshed out by an actual director, and seeing the characters you've grown to love through the books then I think it's more than worth the price of admission.
And I say this as someone who saw it for free and is paying to see it a second time on opening night.
GK Punk
07-14-2009, 07:38 AM
The horcrux's don't even get mentioned until theres only about 30 minutes left in the film.
No funeral for Dumbledore? Seriously. Snape kills Dubledore, Harry tells Hermione and Ron he's not going back to school and then the credits roll.
Remus, one of my favorite characters is in it for maybe 5 minutes.
Snape non-chalantly tells Harry that he's the half-blood prince and than just walks away.
If I remember right, the Horcruxes really didn't get brought up until closer to the end of the book anyway though, right? And Snape kind of just says "I'm the half blood prince" in a very nonchalant way in the book too. That always bothered me that it kind of felt like a throw away plot line in the book
I'm kind of glad to hear they put focus on the relationship parts though. A Majority of the book was Harry saying "Hey, Draco is up to something" and everyone saying "You're imagining it" for 90% of the book, until he says "Hey, Draco AND Snape are up to something" then they all... Pretty much tell him he's imagining that too. I think for a movie they needed to have more depth to the character development.
Of course, I haven't seen the film version yet so it could end up not working well.
cqb101
07-14-2009, 09:32 AM
And Snape kind of just says "I'm the half blood prince" in a very nonchalant way in the book too. That always bothered me that it kind of felt like a throw away plot line in the book
Now I haven't read the book since it first came out, but wasn't there atleast an explanation for why he's called the Half-Blood Prince?
GK Punk
07-14-2009, 09:44 AM
Now I haven't read the book since it first came out, but wasn't there atleast an explanation for why he's called the Half-Blood Prince?
You're right actually, there was. But it was Hermione that figured it out and told Harry I think it said the day before the funeral. But if I read your post right, none of that made it to the movie right? Which is really kind of lame. The part I was most looking forward to was everything starting with Harry and Dumbledore coming back from finding the fake horcrux to discover the dark mark.
I think Dumbledore's funeral could have been visual amazing.
Roseangelo
07-14-2009, 10:07 AM
Now I haven't read the book since it first came out, but wasn't there atleast an explanation for why he's called the Half-Blood Prince?
Yeah, it comes via Hermione in an admittedly brief moment at the end. Snape's mother was Eileen Prince, who married a muggle named Snape.
I have to see the movie before making final judgment, but I've already been thrown off finding out that Fenrir and Bellatrix attack the Burrow at Christmas.
Of course, I've also just read the book. I've had a personal tradition of reading the book right before each movie, a task that really only did me bad with Order of the Phoenix. And while the Chris Columbus method may not be the best, I do find myself a little annoyed that they seem to go to great lengths to make these movies as short as possible. At least that'll be the exact opposite with Deathly Hallows.
I'm too old to do a midnight showing tonight, so I'm going after work tomorrow. And despite all that's been said, I'm quite looking forward to it.
plastroncafe
07-14-2009, 10:13 AM
Of course, I've also just read the book. I've had a personal tradition of reading the book right before each movie, a task that really only did me bad with Order of the Phoenix. And while the Chris Columbus method may not be the best, I do find myself a little annoyed that they seem to go to great lengths to make these movies as short as possible. At least that'll be the exact opposite with Deathly Hallows.
I'm too old to do a midnight showing tonight, so I'm going after work tomorrow. And despite all that's been said, I'm quite looking forward to it.
If anything's going to bite you in the ass with this movie, it's going to be the fact that you just reread the book.
It wasn't until after the movie, listening to all the hard core fans talk about all that was left behind in the interest of making the movie not only shorter but accessible to people who haven't read the books that I remembered all that happened in "Half Blood Prince."
Really...it plays very very well.
Or rather, it does depending on what you view as the definition of a good adaptation.
If you're looking for a Zach Snyder "to the letter recreation" I can tell you right now that you're going to be disappointed.
GK Punk
07-14-2009, 10:16 AM
I think as long as it tells the basic story well, I'll be pretty happy.
I see. I'm shocked reading the reviews on rotten tomatoes right now. 98%.
Well, you have to remember the thing about that site is that a critic's review is either fresh or rotten. If every critic in the world agreed a movie was just "OK", it would still get a 100%.
Ginny
07-14-2009, 12:08 PM
I think as long as it tells the basic story well, I'll be pretty happy.
That is pretty much how I feel also. This was my least favorite of the books, so it isn't going to bother me if they leave out a bunch.
I'm really looking forward to seeing this tomorrow, but I can't get this image out of my head. It's from Order of the Phoenix, when Harry got so fed up with Dumbledore ignoring his presence, and Harry yelled, "LOOK AT ME!!!!!"
...yeah, I can't imagine this movie being any good, but I still wanna see it!
Peanut
07-14-2009, 03:37 PM
I really enjoy going to see all of the movies on opening day. My sister and I sit there and hate them together, which is always fun.
I'm a huge HP fan, I've probably read the entire series of books through 7 or 8 times since Deathly Hallows, and each book alone well over a dozen times (GoF and OotP over 20 times, at least), so every little detail is ingrained into my mind, which is probably why the movies annoy me a lot sometimes. It's not even that I mind them changing things, or cutting stuff, those actions need to be taken to bring the books to the screen, but some of the things they've done just drive me insane. That, and I f*cking HATE Dumbledore post-Chamber. He's absolutely terrible.
So, I basically go see these on opening day, laugh and make comments with my sister, then forget about it. I've never expected much, so I can never be disappointed when it's terrible.
Mr. Snackpants
07-14-2009, 07:16 PM
Well, you have to remember the thing about that site is that a critic's review is either fresh or rotten. If every critic in the world agreed a movie was just "OK", it would still get a 100%.
It's at 98%, 40 fresh and 1 rotten as of today. Movies that score that high are usually something very special. So what the f*ck is going on...there's no way this movie will be any good.
Who knows if it'll stay that high though.
It's at 98%, 40 fresh and 1 rotten as of today. Movies that score that high are usually something very special. So what the f*ck is going on...there's no way this movie will be any good.
Who knows if it'll stay that high though.
I know, I was just trying to make a point that that site isn't perfect. Besides, hold judgment till you see it yourself.
Buslady
07-15-2009, 11:46 AM
Midnight showings are fun.
I am not gonna say anything, no spoilers nothing just that the movie was simply incredible. If you are following this series, do not miss it.
Everybody was just perfect.
ZariusTwo
07-15-2009, 05:30 PM
Perfectly lame.
Just got back from watching it. Really enjoyed it. They improved on the acting, and it kept me excited, even though I read the books and I knew what was going to happen.
That said, a good amount was changed and/or cut short, which I didn't like.
Overall, great movie. Setting up for an epic ending.
Peanut
07-15-2009, 09:42 PM
Aside from the ending, which was pretty dreadful for so many different reasons, I thought it was a really fun movie, better than the last 3 easily.
Now, hear me out. This is coming from the most hardcore of Potter fans. Not only do I own several replica wands (yes, that's right), but I've even been known to sport a Hogwarts scarf in the winter months.
Credentials aside, I found that the character moments they added, or embellished on, in this movie were really a step above the previous efforts. And to me, character is what Harry Potter is all about. Yes, Dumbledore is still awful, and yes, the acting is still stilted in places, but I really felt like a lot of the "movie changes" worked out fantastically on the screen.
Of course, some of the additions were just..."Dude...what the f*ck?" moments. Especially the whole random fight in the field, and the Burrow being blow to f*ck. But for the most part, I feel like the movie worked out really well...for the most part.
My biggest beef was the ending, what a complete train wreck. Aside from the fact that the scene in the cavern seemed woefully short, the lack of any kind of battle between the OotP and the Death Eaters following Dumbledore's death killed the momentum I felt like the movie was building. On top of that, no funeral, no aftermath, nothing. Just Snape giving Harry and explanation to something that was woefully under-explained. Since there was never even a scene where Snape grows suspicious that Harry has his old copy of Advanced Potion Making, what the hell was the point in Snape off-handly mentioning that he was the Half-Blood Prince? In the book, Snape is livid at that point, because Harry had called him a coward, here he's all "OK! WHATEVER!"
Anyways, aside from the ending, again, really thought it was one of the best Potter movies. The casting was better this time around, too. I felt like it's been a little lax the last couple, with the main exception being Luna, but Slughorn (despite his lack of a walrus mustache) was really good, Greyback was decent (didn't do much), and Cormac was a perfect dick head. Certainly not as terrible as some people are making it out to be.
GK Punk
07-15-2009, 09:47 PM
The casting was better this time around, too. I felt like it's been a little lax the last couple, with the main exception being Luna,
Really? I loved their choice for Luna. She's perfectly insane.
Peanut
07-15-2009, 09:49 PM
That's what I mean. I felt like the casting has been lax, with the main exception being Luna, because she's perfect.
GK Punk
07-15-2009, 10:17 PM
Oh I misread that then haha. She was really my favorite part of the last film.
This was just posted in the Harry Potter twitter feed:
Voldemort vs Harry... the rap battle
wTHn5oFPmi8
Buslady
07-15-2009, 10:57 PM
meh hard core fans are just too picky. i thought it was a great movie, as did the whole theatre i was in last night. everybody cheered at the end.
replica wands?
mine's real..3 different woods...extremely powerful.:evilgrin:
Mr. Snackpants
07-16-2009, 11:23 AM
the lack of any kind of battle between the OotP and the Death Eaters following Dumbledore's death killed the momentum I felt like the movie was building. On top of that, no funeral, no aftermath, nothing. Just Snape giving Harry and explanation to something that was woefully under-explained. Since there was never even a scene where Snape grows suspicious that Harry has his old copy of Advanced Potion Making, what the hell was the point in Snape off-handly mentioning that he was the Half-Blood Prince? In the book, Snape is livid at that point, because Harry had called him a coward, here he's all "OK! WHATEVER!"
This.
The movie started out decent then towards the end lost it's momentum. Then the Death Eaters arrive at Hogwarts and I'm thinking, "Here we go, it's about to get good.", but no. Not even close. The movie never picked back up again for all those reasons. I mean I had heard there was no funeral, but no OotP/Death Eater battle? ****.
I still feel like it was still one of the better Potter films. I really hope they can finish it off right.
Peanut
07-16-2009, 12:53 PM
replica wands?
mine's real..3 different woods...extremely powerful.:evilgrin:
I also have a "real" wand, but it's for personal use only! The replica's go on display.
Hannah
07-16-2009, 01:14 PM
Daniel Radcliffe is such a goddamn sh*tty actor. I was just pissed off the entire time because I had to see his stupid face.
Peanut
07-16-2009, 02:06 PM
His goofy smile is cringe inducing every damn time.
Ginny
07-17-2009, 11:21 AM
I went last night to see it, and I liked it a lot. The effects were awesome! I got a bit sick of the smooching teens, but all in all, I thought it was well done. The only thing I missed from the book was
the end battle that was in the book involving Ron, Hermione, Neville, Luna, Ginny etc! Seriously, I wish that hadn't been cut! I was ok with it ending without Dumbledore's funeral, but that battle would have been so cool!
Mecha Cow
07-17-2009, 01:58 PM
After Order of the Phoenix and now this mess, I'm convinced Yates has no idea what the hell he's doing. This movie was all over the place, with no direction whatsoever. Most of the actual story was glossed over in favor of more clichéd teen romance horse sh*t. Now before the fangirls (-boys?) start tearing me a new one: I too enjoyed that stuff in the books, but in the movies --especially this one-- it's just boring, contrived, and childish, and it wrecked the already terrible pacing which made this two-and-a-half hour movie very difficult to sit through. A poor adaption, and an awful film.
Buslady
07-17-2009, 06:48 PM
I also have a "real" wand, but it's for personal use only! The replica's go on display.
ooo really??? cool! whats it made of?
i picked out yew, hawthorn and cocobolo :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v431/buslady/007.jpg
and i gotta agree, Dan has the worst expressions and smile...bleah.
all the goodygoodys are annoying but i still enjoyed it a lot
i like the bad guys...i'd rather cheer for them
Storm Wolf
07-17-2009, 09:22 PM
Credentials aside, I found that the character moments they added, or embellished on, in this movie were really a step above the previous efforts. And to me, character is what Harry Potter is all about. Yes, Dumbledore is still awful, and yes, the acting is still stilted in places, but I really felt like a lot of the "movie changes" worked out fantastically on the screen.
Of course, some of the additions were just..."Dude...what the f*ck?" moments. But for the most part, I feel like the movie worked out really well...for the most part.
My biggest beef was the ending, what a complete train wreck. Aside from the fact that the scene in the cavern seemed woefully short, the lack of any kind of battle between the OotP and the Death Eaters following Dumbledore's death killed the momentum I felt like the movie was building. On top of that, no funeral, no aftermath, nothing. Just Snape giving Harry and explanation to something that was woefully under-explained. Since there was never even a scene where Snape grows suspicious that Harry has his old copy of Advanced Potion Making, what the hell was the point in Snape off-handly mentioning that he was the Half-Blood Prince? In the book, Snape is livid at that point, because Harry had called him a coward, here he's all "OK! WHATEVER!"
I pretty much agree with everything there, Peanut.
I mean I haven't read the book recently and my memory is pretty crappy, but even I walked out of the theater feeling cheated.
I agree that the movie was decent and was building steam. I recalled the ending and was getting excited.....
Then....nothing! Where was the ootp vs. death eater fight? I was sure it would be awesome. Fenrir Greyback had limited screen time....but if I recall correctly didn't he and Remus have a battle? NOTHING was explained about "the half-blood prince" other than Snape admitting it was him. How could anyone who hasn't read the books have possibly picked that up?
I don't know....I have pretty mixed feelings. I do however feel rather disappointed as even tho the movies haven't been right on spot I have enjoyed them. I think when they cut the climax of the book it killed all the momentum they had been working up!
Warhorse
07-18-2009, 12:21 AM
I love the books, and I've loved the first 4 movies, and liked the 5th one enough to add it to my DVD collection.
HBP, I found it so boring, so uninteresting compared to the awesome book, and in scenes where the movie had a chance to get an emotion out of us, fell flat. I was so disappointed with the Malfoy/Harry standoff in the bathroom, and the anticlimatic ending. I never thought it could be possible to screw up a Harry Potter movie. I'm dreading what's going to happen with Deathly Hallows, and the first part kind of drags on in the novel by itself before it starts to pick up steam when Ron re-joins Harry and Hermione.
Oh well, there's still Star Trek coming out, it's one thing to look forward to in the cinema!
The Stryker
07-18-2009, 12:57 AM
Didn't Star Trek come out months ago?
Warhorse
07-18-2009, 08:57 AM
The Star Trek sequels. The Hobbit is another movie I'm looking forward too as well.
Peanut
07-18-2009, 08:06 PM
Then....nothing! Where was the ootp vs. death eater fight? I was sure it would be awesome. Fenrir Greyback had limited screen time....but if I recall correctly didn't he and Remus have a battle? NOTHING was explained about "the half-blood prince" other than Snape admitting it was him. How could anyone who hasn't read the books have possibly picked that up?
He actually mauls Bill. But since both Bill and Fleur weren't even given a passing mention in HBP, I'm guessing they're both out of Deathly Hallows.
Spitfire
07-19-2009, 04:21 AM
I not a Potter fan. I've seen two of the movies entirely and only parts of others. I thought the last one was watchable but that was about it. This new one wasn't bad though. It kept me engaged and I never felt like I wanted to walk out. The CGI was still horrible though, that seems to be a franchise trademark. Tiffany had to explain a few things to me but other then that I could follow it decently well. The acting was better but I could have done without all the teen drama. I also felt like there wasn't much of a climax.
Mecha Cow
07-19-2009, 07:28 AM
He actually mauls Bill. But since both Bill and Fleur weren't even given a passing mention in HBP, I'm guessing they're both out of Deathly Hallows.
No, Bill has been cast and apparently Deathly Hallows will start off with the wedding scene as per the book.
Mr. Snackpants
07-19-2009, 08:56 AM
No, Bill has been cast and apparently Deathly Hallows will start off with the wedding scene as per the book.
It starts out moving Harry before his 17th birthday, doesn't it? After the chapter with Voldemort and the Death Eaters. "The 7 Potters", I think it's called. I really hope they don't skip this because it would be a great way to open a movie.
Mecha Cow
07-19-2009, 09:33 AM
Possible, it's been a while since I've read the book. Either way the wedding will supposedly be included in the movie.
Roseangelo
07-19-2009, 10:57 AM
Possible, it's been a while since I've read the book. Either way the wedding will supposedly be included in the movie.
If that's true, then the attack on the Burrow scene in OotP makes even less sense because the only way I could make it make sense was if they intended to skip all the Burrow stuff in Deathly Hallows. Arg - That is such a pointless scene!
Peanut
07-19-2009, 11:24 AM
Yes, Harry is moved to the Burrow with the "7 Potters" trick at the beginning of Deathly Hallows before the wedding. Again, like has already been said, what's the point in any of that if they burned down the Burrow, and made no mention of Bill and Fluer. What a complete f*cking waste.
Tinuvielsdreams
07-21-2009, 03:32 PM
I saw the film a few days ago and gave it some time to sink in and also to discuss it with a fellow book fan last night. My thoughts very quickly because it's almost work time
Pretty much everyone has nailed the problems I had with it such as
The ending lost all it's suspense with the change, the burrow and field part, giving Tonks and Lupins relationship the shaft, leaving out everything about greyback and ignoring the actual Title plot of the book almost completely...to name a few
Things I liked were the way it was shot as far as cinematography, seeing the joke shop as well as some of the more comedic moments (like the love potion and Slughorn). I actually started to wonder if the film makers were worried if they didn't pound the film with silly teenie bopper kissing stuff it would have been too doom and gloom?
I also liked the young Tom Riddle and some of the death eater chaos scenes effecting the human world even though like most of the drama it was underplayed.
The acting for certain characters is better and all the adult actors are always great. Emma Watson actually annoyed me in this movie much more then Daniel Radcliff. I have to say I love Luna
I decided against reading the book before I saw the movie and I just bought book 7 in paperback so I think the time is coming to re-read both.
Buslady
07-22-2009, 03:48 PM
No, Bill has been cast and apparently Deathly Hallows will start off with the wedding scene as per the book.
Why would they open with a wedding when the book opens with a meeting with Voldemort? If they're trying to make it more to the book with these last two movies, this time they should live up to it.
I just want more Voldemort...:evilgrin:
GK Punk
07-23-2009, 09:19 PM
Finally saw it.
Yeah.
Well, I enjoyed it I should say. It wasn't bad. It just wasn't as good as the book. All the points brought up by you guys already, I also agree with. Half the stuff I was looking forward to seeing wasn't even in the movie.
Seriously, no battle with The Order and Death Eaters? Not at all? Any why didn't harry try and stop the Death Eaters instead of just standing there watching? At least in the book, he had the cloak of invisibility over him and was frozen by Dumbledore's magic...
All in all, it wasn't bad. Just a bit dissapointing.
Jephael
07-30-2009, 05:01 PM
I'm more a fan of the movies than the books, though I've stopped in Barnes and Noble a couple times to read parts of them.
I went to see Half-Blood Prince three times this month and enjoyed it very much. Ron's my favorite character because I can sort of relate to him. I loved his scenes in the film.
GK Punk
07-30-2009, 05:03 PM
Ron's a great character, he's one of my favorites too actually. Luna eventually became my favorite, just out of her pure insanity though.
Jephael
07-30-2009, 06:29 PM
Oh, Luna's a great character! I cracked up when I saw her with that lion hat on before the Quidditch match.
Barkworm
07-31-2009, 01:08 AM
I saw it a couple of das ago and I thought it wasn't half bad. The acting has actually improved, even Emma Watson isn't as horrible as she used to be. Gambon's Dumbledore was really good this time, some of his lines were spot-on. Almost made me forget the horror that was "Goblet of Fire".
GK Punk
07-31-2009, 01:12 AM
It's been a long time since I've seen Goblet of fire, was it really that bad?
Barkworm
07-31-2009, 01:43 AM
I meant Gambon as Dumbledore. He was completely out of character in that one.
GK Punk
07-31-2009, 02:25 AM
Oh yeah that I do remember. "DID YOU PUT YOUR NAME IN THE GOBLET RAWWWWWWR"
Peanut
07-31-2009, 12:10 PM
Yeah, Dumbledore slamming Harry into a trophy case was hilarious.
Still hate the f*cker. He has nothing on the Richard Harris Dumbledore.
Jephael
07-31-2009, 03:25 PM
Speaking of Dumbledore...
It's shame they skipped the funeral scene in the new movie, which I know about from the Harry Potter wiki.
Barkworm
08-01-2009, 01:30 AM
Yeah, Dumbledore slamming Harry into a trophy case was hilarious.
Still hate the f*cker. He has nothing on the Richard Harris Dumbledore.
To be honest, I hated the Harris Dumbledore even more, he was as charismatic as a walnut.
GK Punk
08-01-2009, 01:34 AM
Speaking of Dumbledore...
It's shame they skipped the funeral scene in the new movie, which I know about from the Harry Potter wiki.
That disappointed me greatly. There was also a pretty big battle scene cut out, which was what I was most looking forward to seeing.
Buslady
08-01-2009, 01:36 AM
Ahhhh the only bits of Goblet worth watching is Voldemort's ressurection...but Harry's whining thru it all made it barely bearable. :P
Voldemort shoulda smacked him around a lot more...
actually he shoulda just killed harry and got it over & done with
GK Punk
08-01-2009, 01:38 AM
Ah even the greatest villains just miss their best opportunities :lol:
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