View Full Version : Jagwar is a no go *booo playmates!*
VaughnMichael
11-27-2007, 01:30 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/Harmophious/Jag1.jpg
Alas, just informed by Playmates that they will not be including Jagwar as part of their Global Mutant Missions line.
CLICK HERE TO GO DIRECTLY TO HIS BLOG. (http://the-5th-turtle.blogspot.com/2007/11/tchau.html)
Roseangelo
11-27-2007, 01:35 AM
Yeah, I really want to hear the story behind this move.
VaughnMichael
11-27-2007, 01:58 AM
Yeah, I really want to hear the story behind this move.
Well whatever the story is I'm sure the name of the party involved starts with a P.:roll:
Roseangelo
11-27-2007, 02:08 AM
Well whatever the story is I'm sure the name of the party involved starts with a P.:roll:
I'm trying really hard not to jump to that conclusion. Really. But yeah... that's pretty much what I expect it is. :dead:
VaughnMichael
11-27-2007, 02:12 AM
I'm trying really hard not to jump to that conclusion. Really. But yeah... that's pretty much what I expect it is. :dead:
Yeah, since we both know playmates wants to make a retro line.
This is getting pretty bad, It's like we invited him to our homes for dinner and he peed all over the food. ugh!
It seriously makes me want to scream!:x
Coola Yagami
11-27-2007, 08:38 AM
Global Mutant Missions....?
Yeah, I really want to hear the story behind this move.
Well whatever the story is I'm sure the name of the party involved starts with a P.:roll:
P-- Putrescent?? :o OMG! Why'd ya saboutage your own dream? You're a confusing dude, dude...
Sorry. Just had to. This is a dark day for us all. R.I.P. Jagwar fig... :tcry:
Toonami Tom
11-27-2007, 11:47 AM
Dang, I hate to hear that the figure was cancelled. It seems that the guy with the "P" in his name is trying to destroy the TMNT Playmates Toy line if he is the reason for this.
Make way for the one million different crappy turtle variants and dumb looking aliens.:roll: Yeah, that's what kids and collectors want.:roll:
I wish there was a way for Playmates to sneak in a movie style Venus figure, just to tick off 'Mr. P' really badly.:D
Drtooth
11-27-2007, 12:38 PM
Murphy posted the reason why on his blog:
I asked my junior executive friend at Playmates why they 86'd the Jagwar figure. His reply: "Pmates puts together a line (designed, approved, etc.), like Global Mutant Missions. Once it’s given the “ok” from all parties involved (but before we cut steel for tooling), big shots look at numbers - especially at brands with history (like TMNT or Strawberry Shortcake). An important person cross references future products with what has sold in the past. Looking at TMNT for example, data would most likely indicate that the 4 turtles tend to sell the best, with lesser known villains and allies not quite as aggressively. This is reported to the Powers That Be and then ultimately what was once a line of 8 figures, now gets budgeted and reduced to be a line of 6. Somewhere between this stage and the actual cutting of steel, an exec. (from marketing, I think) chooses which figures stay and which go. My guess is in this case it was on personal aesthetic preferences alone. You’ll note that this happened to Alien Hunters too (only Thrashmor and Dumpjumper will be moving forward, not Antroid and the other one). Now, this doesn’t mean that the other figures will never get made, but my guess is that retail will have to like this assortment a whole hell of a lot before we start manufacturing unproduced styles."
Yeah... I'm not even going to touch that one.
So someone there says the four turtles sell the best? Tell that to the 1000000 rediculous varients still on the shelves.
Of course, I don't even care at this point. I'm just going to get the movie figures, the minis, and that's it. Neca. Neca.
Toonami Tom
11-27-2007, 12:47 PM
Ah the heck with it, I think I'm done with this toy line.
Bring on the NECA TMNT!:)
Spitfire
11-27-2007, 02:09 PM
I'm so sick of them making molds and not using them.
VaughnMichael
11-27-2007, 05:16 PM
I'm so sick of them making molds and not using them.
yeah it's gettin' pretty moldy around here.:lol:
Um so I'm friggin sick of this crap also I don't even buy any of the turtles like ever..I would consider it if they at least made new sculpts for each figure but they dont they just keep messing things up more and more.
Smooth move Playmates.:roll:
METALHEAD
11-27-2007, 07:00 PM
Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooo Dddddddddddddddddaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnn This World! First The Adventure Team 8inch Gijoe Figures And The Rest Of The Gijoe 8inch Line Being Canned Now This????!!!??? Nothings Right Anymore! *sobs Cries Crawls Under A Rock*
VaughnMichael
11-27-2007, 07:20 PM
yeah you know seriously F playmates this is a huge kick in our teeth.
I'm glad Peter didn't have anything to do with this I'd hate to think he's that hatefull of his past. But one can never be to sure since we haven't seen the man say a word since the last issue of vol.4 of tmnt.
Jester
11-27-2007, 07:31 PM
OK I say we as a TMNT fan community not buy Playmates toys save the "lesser known villains and allies" although we probably know those characters and their birth dates...:P
VaughnMichael
11-27-2007, 07:41 PM
OK I say we as a TMNT fan community not buy Playmates toys save the "lesser known villains and allies" although we probably know those characters and their birth dates...:P
That's all I do buy anyway, I seriously don't see it as how they say it considering all I ever see sitting collecting dust on shelves is the 4 turtles and maybe april.
And maybe if they updated their sculpting so the toys dont look like they came from a happymeal they'd sell better.
Jester
11-27-2007, 07:43 PM
I agree, I don't need 20 different versions of Raph, though he's my favorite.
CyberCubed
11-27-2007, 09:46 PM
My rules are simple, I buy the TMNT varients I like and ignore the ones I don't like.
I ignored the Street Grindin' Turtles as well as the Auto-Attack Turtles, but I'm going to get all 4 Mutatin' Turtles again.
odupianist
11-28-2007, 07:39 AM
I don't see how they figure the non turtle characters don't sell. I see more turtles left over on the shelf than the non turtle characters. Idiots...
It's simple. Since there are four turtles, and they're the stars of the franchise, there's a million and one ways that they can look at cold, hard stats to see that these are more likely to sell. Factor in some deluded interpretations on how this means no one is interested in the other characters, and you have Playmates' logic. ^_^
Triglyph
11-30-2007, 08:17 AM
I hate to say this, but the type of people on this message board are by far the minority when it comes to who buys ninja turtles toys. While people like us may not get it, the turtles do sell more. Look around on ebay at parents selling kids toys:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NINJA-TURTLES-Lot-of-14-Turtles-Jeep-Extras-LOOK_W0QQitemZ200179747528QQihZ010QQcategoryZ16474 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/NINJA-TURTLES-Lot-of-30-Turtles-Motocycle-Helicopter_W0QQitemZ200179753446QQihZ010QQcategory Z16474QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-of-8-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtle-Action-Figures-EC_W0QQitemZ160184956578QQihZ006QQcategoryZ16474QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/TEENAGE-MUTANT-NINJA-TURTLE-Action-Figure-LOT-11pc-TMNT_W0QQitemZ350000491836QQihZ022QQcategoryZ16474 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/HUGE-LOT-14-TMNT-TEENAGE-MUTANT-NINJA-TURTLES-FIGURES_W0QQitemZ140183528403QQihZ004QQcategoryZ16 474QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Great-Lot-Of-23-Teenage-Ninja-Mutan-Turtles-3-Bikes_W0QQitemZ260187864457QQihZ016QQcategoryZ1647 4QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
This is all stuff someone bought for their kids.
Hardcore fans talk to other hardcore fans who all share similar opinions so its easy for them think everyone agrees with their point of view, but people like us really only make up a small percentage of the market.
I am 100% with you guys in wanting more characters over more turtles, but all of those crazy looking stupid costumed turtles DO sell as long as the toy line is marketed to kids. I know I don't like it, but just because we all agree doesn't mean playmates doesn't know what they're doing.
VaughnMichael
11-30-2007, 04:38 PM
Damn, I'm glad my mom let me choose my own figures as a kid.:dead:
Spitfire
11-30-2007, 11:52 PM
The turtles sell more because they package more in the boxes, then the toy collectors go to the store, buy up ALL the non-turtles, and all the kids have left to buy are the turtles.
I used to buy Spider-man figures like crack as a kid and I had about 90 Spider-mans because adults would buy all the Green Goblins and Venoms. I knew it was adults because I'd ask why they never had any and that was how it was explained to me. Now I know it's the retard toy companies to blame and not the collectors.
If they'd f'ing ship a decent amount of secondary characters in a case or made more they'd sell better. Not every freaking line has to have a turtle in it. It works for Batman and Spider-man because there aren't four heroes that have to be represented.
Extreme_Enigma
12-12-2007, 06:03 PM
Does anyone even buy the first wave turtles still?
Who do you like better?
Jungle Leo / Leonardo (My answer: Jungle Leo)
Monster Capture Raph / Raphael (My answer: Monster Capture Raph)
Extreme Sports Mikey / Michelangelo (My answer: Extreme Sports Mikey)
Surveillance Don / Donatello (My answer: Donatello because of the spy gear:lol:)
But Still Jaguar was a great figure! :cry::cry::cry:
odupianist
12-13-2007, 10:24 AM
I like Mike and Don of the first wave. Raph and Leo of the second wave.
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