G.I Joe: The Rise of Cobra discussion (Please use Spoiler tags)

[Raph's Girl]

Tried to find the old thread I had started for this film but couldn't find it...hrm.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071220/film_nm/gijoe_dc_2

The "G.I. Joe" brigade is growing larger. Rachel Nichols ("P2"), Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje ("Lost") and Said Taghmaoui ("The Kite Runner") will join Sienna Miller and Ray Park in the live-action movie based on the popular military doll and its comic-book and cartoon series spinoffs.

Stephen Sommers is directing "G.I. Joe," which is slated for an August 2009 release via Paramount Pictures.

The cartoon series featured military soldiers fighting a terrorist group called Cobra, with characters like the mute ninja Snake Eyes (Park) on the side of the good guys.

This latest version has G.I. JOE, which stands for Global Integrated Joint Operating Entity, as an international force of operatives set in Brussels.

Nichols will play a skilled martial artist who specializes in hand-to-hand combat and counterintelligence. Akinnuoye-Agbaje will play an ordnance expert, and Taghmaoui the team's communications specialist. Miller will play the Baroness, known for her espionage skills.

[GK Punk]

This latest version has G.I. JOE, which stands for Global Integrated Joint Operating Entity, as an international force of operatives set in Brussels.


I could swear Hasbro themselves denied that The Pitt would be located in Brussels, and that GI Joe would operate out of the US?

[cqb101]

I could swear Hasbro themselves denied that The Pitt would be located in Brussels, and that GI Joe would operate out of the US?

I heard the same thing...

[GK Punk]

For those wondering, The Pit IS NOT, again, NOT In Brussels. I don't know why all these sites keep saying it is, It's confirmed for a second time here:

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4061&Itemid=99

LDB: Ok, let me be really clear on this point. G.I. Joe headquarters in the comic book is based in the Pit. As in the comic book, you don't know where the location of the Pit is. So, the idea that it's based in Brussels is false, the idea that it is a European base or an international kind of organization is false. It is the G.I. Joe Organization.

[Raph's Girl]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080129/film_nm/tatum_dc_1

Channing Tatum has joined the "G.I. Joe" team.

Tatum will play Duke, a key leader of the G.I. Joe crew. Sam Worthington originally was to play the role in the Paramount film. Worthington, however, could not coordinate the production's schedule with his current work on James Cameron's "Avatar," which has run over schedule.

Tatum, who had been cast in Oliver Stone's My Lai massacre film "Pinkville," found some time in his schedule after that production was put on hold because of the writers' strike.

He joins Sienna Miller, Ray Park, Rachel Nichols, Marlon Wayans, Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje, Said Taghmaoui and Joseph Gordon-Levitt in the live-action film, which is set in the future and based on the popular Hasbro action figures.

Stephen Sommers is directing from the latest script, penned by Stuart Beattie.

The film is scheduled for an August 7, 2009, release.

Tatum, who will appear in the upcoming "Fighting" with Terrence Howard as well as the war drama "Stop Loss," starring Ryan Phillippe, has also been cast in "Public Enemies," the period crime drama from Universal that stars Johnny Depp and Christian Bale.

[cqb101]

For someone who's a nobody he seems to be getting a lot of high profile roles all of a sudden.

[GK Punk]

You missed out on Arnold Vosloo being cast as Zartan today as well.

[Spitfire]

I don't think I even need to say anything this time.

[Jester]

If this has a live action version of the opening to the 80's animated Joe movie, I'd laugh my head off.

"Who would dare oppose the deadliest of foes? Cobra! COOOBRA! Cobra! COOOBRA!"

[GK Punk]

And Dennis Quaid has been cast as General Hawk.

Sweet.

[cqb101]

I'll be honest here and say that I have no problem with the casting so far. All of the actors atleast look the part of the characters, and it's a pretty impressive list of names. The only thing that scares me is Stephen Sommers.

[Raph's Girl]

http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=21261

Superhero Hype reports that David Murray is cast in the role of Destro in the big screen adaptation of G.I. Joe.

Murray's film credits included King Arthur, and Batman Begins.

Murray will join Channing Tatum (Duke), Dennis Quaid (Hawk), Ray Park (Snake Eyes), Sienna Miller (The Baroness), Rachel Nichols (Scarlett), Arnold Vosloo (Zartan), Marlon Wayans (Ripcord), Saïd Taghmaoui (Breaker), Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje (Heavy Duty), and Byung-hun Lee (Storm Shadow). No word yet on who will play The Cobra Commander.

Filming for G.I. Joe will start next week in Los Angeles, and the movie will be in theaters in 2009.

When in doubt... get the Wayans brothers...they'll do anything for money....

Wait a sec... Dennis Quaid?! Hmmm

[GK Punk]

Wayans has been known for a good while now, at least a few weeks. And read my post above yours, I already said Dennis Quaid is General Hawk. In other news, Larry Hama is now a consultant on it as well, apparently. that gives hope for the film.

Edit: review of the final shooting script: http://www.latinoreview.com/scriptreview.php?id=73 (SPOILERS, obviously)

[Raph's Girl]

I was looking up one of the G.I Joe characters for somebody cuz they'd never heard of him. That character being Ripcord played by Marlon Wayans...who it turns out is a white guy in the comics.


http://www.myuselessknowledge.com/joe/ripcord.html

[GK Punk]

Yeah, that's been a huge center of controversy among Joe fans. The general feeling is the character is basically Sgt Stalker, with Ripcord's name. No idea why they went this route, but I'm still hoping they'll change his name over to Stalker during filming. Stalker is a MAJOR character in the Joe universe, having him be absent from the movie would be a shame.

[KROW]

Yeah, that's been a huge center of controversy among Joe fans. The general feeling is the character is basically Sgt Stalker, with Ripcord's name. No idea why they went this route, but I'm still hoping they'll change his name over to Stalker during filming. Stalker is a MAJOR character in the Joe universe, having him be absent from the movie would be a shame.

True, though having the wiry Marlon Wayans play Stalker would be a shame, too. Michael Jai White, on the other hand...

The rest of the cast looks like gold (especially Storm Shadow), but I'm iffy on Tatum as Duke. I haven't seen him act so I can't judge how he would be as one of the flagship Joes. Murray as Destro is pretty surprising. He was the thug in Batman Begins who shouted, "Where are you?!" Both guys are a wait-and-see scenario for me.

[cqb101]

Christopher Eccleston (Destro) - 2/11/08 (IESB)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/61/173072937_6aa7bd700a.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2401/2128292209_e138a900c3.jpg

Dennis Quaid (Hawk)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1326/591932946_877e2248d1.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1080/531896358_f9843ea82e.jpg

Arnold Vosloo (Zartan)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2394/1575593013_b579b468d3.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2395/1755302826_9dc5d7728f.jpg

Channing Tatum (Duke)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/82/213265809_4d735ee651.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/64/221962530_3545ad0565.jpg

Sienna Miller (The Baroness)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2252/1861877016_091660383d.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1388/1473282863_8bbddbf49b.jpg

[cqb101]

Ray Park (Snake Eyes)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2266/2091973504_52af3904c2.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1016/1323399657_8ed3590d5f.jpg


Rachel Nichols (Scarlett)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2154/2193130889_7e7b4770ae.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/25/65575117_ed02f12db6.jpg

Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje (Heavy Duty)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1392/533723271_8ff99532af.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/103/264226926_1f685216ee.jpg

Said Taghmaoui (Breaker)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2378/2232527507_b9d4dec4e2.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1319/1363591396_712fa02132.jpg

Marlon Wayans (Ripcord)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2331/2085839340_10b47c8931.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2373/2183832177_98b9488ca0.jpg

[cqb101]

Joseph Gordon-Levitt (Rex)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/242/444244135_9181e04831.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1052/628033628_06f6566fbb.jpg

Byung-hun Lee (Storm Shadow)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/DOGLIPS/0stormshadow.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1066/888436145_40ff6e769a.jpg

Karolína Kurková (Cover Girl)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/159/347824133_e1119acacb.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/150/347824023_20d9849f5c.jpg



Great casting so far, IMO.

[Raph's Girl]

WTF? Um.. dude... Chris Eccleston isn't Destro. David Murray is. And another thing. Joseph Gordon Levitt is Cobra Commander not Rex. Get yer facts straight! :P

[cqb101]

WTF? Um.. dude... Chris Eccleston isn't Destro. David Murray is. And another thing. Joseph Gordon Levitt is Cobra Commander not Rex. Get yer facts straight! :P

You get your facts straight. David Murray was let go because of problems with his working VISA and was replaced with Eccleston (http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_ezine&task=read&page=1&category=1&article=4293), and apparently "Rex" is Duke's best friend who later becomes Cobra Commander. Might wanna read up on a little news before you go questioning people. have a nice day.

[Raph's Girl]

You get your facts straight. David Murray was let go because of problems with his working VISA and was replaced with Eccleston (http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_ezine&task=read&page=1&category=1&article=4293), and apparently "Rex" is Duke's best friend who later becomes Cobra Commander. Might wanna read up on a little news before you go questioning people. have a nice day.

Bunts! Sorry about that. Wikipedia needs to update their news then, plus I hadn't seen the news at other places. Humm... Eccleston as Destro.....Im not so sure about that... :ohwell:

[Brodie]

Bunts! Sorry about that. Wikipedia needs to update their news then

Maybe you shouldn't get your news from Wikipedia, considering it allows people like you to make and edit the news.

[Raph's Girl]

Maybe you shouldn't get your news from Wikipedia, considering it allows people like you to make and edit the news.

Generally I don't go to Wikipedia for news. But they're usually good with the links I can't find and I haven't seen anything about Chris Eccleston joining the cast of G.I Joe. I don't like IESB much. They're not entirely accurate when it comes to news and generally their news is so obscure that it's not on any other news site. This is the case for the Chris Eccleston casting.

Had cqb101 actually posted a link with the announcement of Chris Eccleston joining the cast then I wouldn't have said what I did. Instead he just went out and posted a picture. I thought he was joking. To me this came right out of nowhere. I DID say I was sorry tho. :P

[ZariusTwo]

Destro has been officially cast

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http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35575

[cqb101]

Destro has been officially cast

srLNKOmp7pg

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35575


You're a little late on that news.;)

[KROW]

Wait. Tommy from 3rd Rock is Cobra Commander?

O...kay... :|

[gobo]

I was thinking the same thing. Strange... Very strange...

[GK Punk]

For the record, the Rex/Cobra commander story has reportedly been scraped.

[Raph's Girl]

Destro has been officially cast

srLNKOmp7pg

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35575


Ah good... now it's official... Now...will Destro be able to turn invisible and travel thru time?? :D

[GK Punk]

It's official "Now"? It was announced via various media outlets several days ago.

[GK Punk]

Ladies and Gents, General Hawk http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4319&Itemid=99

[Raph's Girl]

It's official "Now"? It was announced via various media outlets several days ago.

IESB.net is not what one would consider as "several" media outlets. It wasn't announced anywhere else but IESB a couple days ago. :P

[GK Punk]

Funny, the GI Joe board I post at had multiple links. Of course, none of it is was Wikipedia, so what do I know. And of course, it's not like IESB isn't dealing with Larry Hama himself or anything. Oh wait.

[FireFly]

heres some info from Toyfair thanks to one mr.Justin Bell


Darn. In that case, is there any chance of a brief description of the concept art (especially character designs)? Unless they made you guys sign a confidentiality agreement too. ;)

It was very tough to isolate a really concrete picture, because the pictures were whipping by so quickly.

- There was a Night Raven type of plane. Not an SR-71, but a double-winged, long black stealth-type plane that looked cool.

- A snowmobile like the Polar Blast that seats 2-3 people

- Some type of hover type of vehicle (single person) with a control console

- Some type of CLAW-type jetpack, but was a little bit bulkier. Actually reminded me some of the Jet Wing jetpack from Sigma 6.

- Heavy Duty seems VERY reminiscent of Roadblock, with a bald head and black goatee.

- Breaker has a very tech-oriented suit, with cybernetic headgear and goggles.

The problem is a ton of concept art was shown with no indication of what was final and what were merely early design concepts. In fact, a few different samples of art were shown for the Baroness (including one with skulls on it that looked pretty neat) so it's tough to say what was final and what wasn't.

One of the cooler scenes appeared to be a scene of a nice dramatic martial arts battle on top of the Capital building with a lightning storm in the background...I'm thinking Snake Eyes/Storm Shadow.

Justin

The Movie:

Yes, Hasbro showed a 10 minute "behind the scenes" look at the movie production, including some animatics (non final computer generated animation) some concept art, and interviews with the people involved in the movie's production. The piece involved lots of fast-moving pictures, it was tough to make out lots of the details.

One sequence involved a pair of operatives in "Nano-tech suits" that enable them to move very fast. The animatic shows them zipping through the streets while being chased by rocket-firing vehicles. There is lots of impressive acrobatics (flipping through moving vehicles, dodging rocket fire, etc...) and aspects that seem like they will look VERY cool in live action form.

As an advance warning: the film looks like it will be a lot more future-tech science fiction based than super real-life military action. I know this will bother a lot of people, but I think it could be cool. I mean, let's face it, G.I. Joe has always had a very strong science fiction element from the very start, so I think certain aspects of this make sense. The vehicle concepts are VERY cool (a nice Night Raven-esque Blackbird type of fighter jet).

There are going to be jetpacks, floating weapon-platforms, glider jets, submarines, and all sorts of pretty neat looking future weapons. Straight up, this will disappoint some of the military purists, but I think to the general public who's looking for a new and exciting effects-laden action flick, it will satisfy. It was all very early stuff, but also looked pretty cool, too.

We got quick looks at a couple of what looked to be COBRA Troopers in animatic form, and they were wearing a nice armored, blue uniform that looked fairly COBRA-like (from what I could tell with the quick flash).

That's what jumps out at me so far, shoot questions and I'll answer what I can. I'll be offline a lot of the day tomorrow as I travel back home, but I'll answer what I can.

Justin

i'm sorry but i just have to say it

SIGMA 6 LIVES!!!!!!!!!!

[GK Punk]

Woah, hold on a minute there Sparky. Power Suits aren't new to GI Joe with Sigma 6 ;)
That and the US Military really is working o n those suits.

What board to you post at? JBL?

[gobo]

Oh... I thought this was supposed to be a live-action movie. CGI Joe is a tad less appealing.

[FireFly]

just animatics i think that's what justin said but the idea of stormtrooper/hiegaist styled cobra troops sound amazing to me

and yes i post at JBL name overthere is KINGOFNOD5

[cqb101]

Pictures of Duke and Baroness:

http://www.joblo.com/duke-baroness-pics


Meh.

[CudleyCowlick]

<--- Summons up a mental image of Sienna Miller with black hair and glasses and gets all tingly inside. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[GK Punk]

Ladies and Gents, Snake-Eyes

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6836/snakeeyesmovieuh0.jpg

[GK Punk]

And here's another pic http://i.usatoday.net/life/_photos/2008/03/21/joex.jpg

[AquaParade]

Looks like a beautiful outfit. I don't think I'll be able to truly judge it until I see it in motion though...I really dont know too much about G.I.Joe, but does Snake eyes actually act ..."ninja-esque" or is he just a military type guy wearing a "cool ninja suit!"...?

[GK Punk]

He's very Ninja-Esque. He doesn't even talk.

[Raph's Girl]

Latino Review is reporting that Brendan Fraser recently filmed a cameo in the film as Gung-Ho, while an offer has been made to Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson for the role of Hector Delgado, aka Shipwreck.

Hmm... I can see Dwayne Johnson as Shipwreck...if he bulked up a bit anyways.

[Raph's Girl]

Looky folks!! It be Scarlett!

http://chud.com/articles/content_images/5/scarlett.jpg

Bigger image here:
http://www.joblo.com/excl-gi-joes-scarlett

[GK Punk]

Still not happy that she's Australian in the shooting script.

[GK Punk]

http://www.wwtdd.com/post.phtml?pk=5103

A LOT more pics

[Raph's Girl]

Lots more pics up:

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0805/09/index.htm

The pics are of:
Ray Park as Snake Eyes -
Dennis Quaid as General Hawk -
Rachel Nichols as Scarlett
Saïd Taghmaoui as Breaker
Channing Tatum as Duke
Marlon Wayans as Ripcord
Sienna Miller as The Baroness
Christopher Eccleston as Destro
Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje as Heavy Duty (good lord..Im not even gonna try to pronounce that name)
Byung-hun Lee as Storm Shadow

That pic of Chris Eccleston...I dunno...I look at that image and I don't think "Hey! That's Destro!".. my reaction is "So Doctor Who is on Mars?"

Love the pic of Storm Shadow tho.

[MadPirateBunny]

Snake Eyes = Happy Silent Ninja love

<3

[METALHEAD]

Okay i'm a GIJOE FAN but i started with the 12inch figures before the 3inch ones---what can i say about this film? i think its gonna be great to be honest---has a SIGMA 6 theme going on thats making sigma 6 fans hope for a reival of the 8inch GIJOES of course you have your whiney hard core 80's GIJOE fans ---but who cares what they think? GIJOE is evolving for a new generation of children and these JOES are for them. same thing over and overwill just make it boring so---like i said GIJOE needs to exspand.

also i ntoice a pic on the guy who's playing DUKE he has a scarr on his right cheek just like the original 1964 figure of GIJOE the real GIJOE.

1964 :GIJOE AMERICA'S MOVING FIGHTING MAN

1970: GIJOE ADVENTURE TEAM

1982: GIJOE A REAL AMERICAN HERO

2005 : GIJOE SIGMA 6

2009: GIJOE ???
and thus american boys ofthe future will have GIJOE a patriotic symbol.:)

i cant wait for the toyline and movie i even heard a rumor of a new GIJOE TOON after the film.... heh who nows.

Also here are more pix http://enewsi.com/news.php?catid=190&itemid=13234 enjoy~!

[GK Punk]

You'll be dissapointed if you are expecting this movie to be patriotic. GI Joe is now an International special missions force. Snake-Eyes is French, Scarlett is Australian etc.

[gobo]

Easiest way to pull in the international markets... :P

Plus, you forgot to mention the unconditionally awful G.I. Joe: drug cartel elimination service or whatever it was called from the mid or late '90s, Metalhead. The scandalous is still part of the franchise.

EDIT: I guess I'm referring to G.I. Joe Extreme from 1995. But, I remember seeing an episode or marathon of it on Fox back then that was only about a drug-smuggling ring. I remember thinking that, aside from Duke being there, it just didn't seem like the G.I. Joe I had grown to appreciate.

[GK Punk]

I'm actually fine with it. I just know a lot of people have been getting really upset because of it.

[gobo]

O_O Oh my goodness... Are they not aware that G.I. Joe has had been given the 'international defenders' role in foreign territories ever since it made it onto video?? One step forward, two steps back... :(

[Raph's Girl]

Oh looky.. a video thing of Joseph Gordon Levitt (Cobra Commander) stating his opinion of G.I. Joe.... Note: This might not work for people outside the U.S cuz um MTV is like that...

http://www.comics2film.com/index.php?a=story&b=34027

[GK Punk]

That's cause the fans turned on him when he said in an interview earlier this year that GI Joe is a nice break from serious movies.

[cqb101]

That's cause the fans turned on him when he said in an interview earlier this year that GI Joe is a nice break from serious movies.

He wasn't wrong.

Also, first poster for the movie:

http://www.worstpreviews.com/images/posters/gijoe/gijoe1_large.jpg

http://www.worstpreviews.com/media.php?id=1039&image=0&place=posters&place2=poster

[That Matt Guy]

i hate the uniforms. he isn't duke without the yellow shirt.

[cqb101]

i hate the uniforms. he isn't duke without the yellow shirt.

I hate everything about the movie except the cast.

[cqb101]

Two more character posters, Baroness and Snake Eyes.

http://www.film1.nl/images/plaatjes/44285.jpg

http://www.film1.nl/images/plaatjes/44286.jpg

[GK Punk]

I see they changed the name to "Rise of Cobra"

[X]

I personally cannot wait after seeing this trailer, but I loved the first two Mummy movies so I always knew I'd like this when I saw it.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=52443

Enjoy.

[GK Punk]

Huuuuge GI Joe fan, so I'll go see this even if it's the worst movie ever made.

[Canadian Turtle]

Not really a true joe fan... but that was not at all what I expected... Not sure if I get it.

[GK Punk]

Maybe I can help you understand it, what didn't you get?

[Spitfire]

That was short. Looks like every other action movie that comes out. Slow motion, bullet dodging, explosions, and wise cracking main characters. Seems rather bland to me. I was never a GI Joe fan to begin with though. I'll wait and see how I feel about it when it's actually out. I might end up getting drug to it like I did "Transformers".

[GK Punk]

You're gonna make me cry, spit :(

[Spitfire]

You're gonna make me cry, spit :(

I'm sorry I call them as I see them. I guess I have a hard time putting any faith into something based off an old TV show/toyline. I mean even as a turtles fan I still was uneasy about "TMNT". I hated it the first time I watched it and now I just barely accept it. To me it's like "Batman Forever" or "Batman and Robin" I'm a batman fan so I want to like them but I just can't.

This is a little different though it's the first live action GI Joe film so it might be good who knows. I've just learned lately that if I expect everything to be bad when I go in I find myself pleasantly surprised more often then hugely disappointed.

[GK Punk]

I actually agree totally with not having expectations set high when going to see films like this. I did that with pretty much every movie I've seen over the last few years. You either get what you expect, or enjoy the movie more than you thought you would.

I just can't help it with G.I. Joe. I've been dying to see a live action joe flick since I was a kid, now I'm finally getting it. Which means I'll probably be let down haha. But that's Ok. I haven't been this pumped for a movie since Revenge of the Sith. I'll just enjoy the ride and all the anticipation and all that.

[The Terror of Death]

Meh, nothing really grabbed me but it looks like it could be fairly decent. I'm not a hardcore GI Joe because I never got the chance to read any of the comics or watch the cartoon series but I did love the animated movie. That thing was made of awesomesauce.

[gobo]

I have to say that it looked kinda like a stereotypical action movie to me as well. But, way that's better than the campy garbage people want to adapt cartoon and comic franchises as (even Transformers was subjected to this in their recent movie, but they threw enough money at it to make it not look look like a student-film). But, this just isn't enough to base my opinion on. Being that this is Hasbro's other successful franchise, I kinda expect that it'll be just a multi-million dollar joke that Transformers turned out to be. Should be fun... :)

[LeoNerdo]

it looks okay, but i'm not really very excited about it.

[Raph's Girl]

Chris Eccleston with a Scottish accent!! Num!!! :evilgrin:

I still can't really picture him as Destro tho....looked like a typical action movie to me. Don't really seem G.I Joe-ish to me. Meh...

[joe-eyeball]

Heck, I've got to admit that my expectations for this movie were about as low as they could be, but now I'm almost afraid to say that they just shot through the roof after a 30 seconds of footage. I always loved G.I. Joe and now I can't wait to see this. It looks pretty badass.

[TigerClaw]

Being a G.I. Joe fan, I am looking forward to this movie.

The cartoon series was over the top with campy dialogue, Hopefully the movie will keep that same spirit the cartoon.

I also hope they use the two famous phrases from the cartoon. "Yoo! Joe! and Knowing Is Half The Battle."

[Blade Raider]

While I'm still not sold on this movie as a whole (and I'm still mad as a mutanted bull that Roadblock has been replaced with Heavy Duty...again), I'll see it if only because I like Christopher Eccleston. Would like a longer trailer than this, but it's still nice to see something.

EDIT:
"and Knowing Is Half The Battle"

I can hear Destro saying that line to a Joe after they find out they've been fighting McCullen all along.

"You're Destro?!"

Destro: "That's right and knowing is half the battle, isn't it?"

I doubt it will happen.

Oh yeah, a UK Toy Fair report says they do yell "Yo Joe!" in the film, which they always should.

[GK Punk]

Went ahead and combined this thread with the old GI joe movie thread. From now on this will be the official thread to discuss GI Joe: The rise of Cobra

[Weapon X]

That was really short to even have a good opinion.

I'm a Joe fan(man that's getting redundant), I was a little excited when I heard there was going to be a live action film, but my expectations were never really high. I knew we weren't gonna get a movie that fully represents the comics and toy's, costumes and all, but I don't know, Snake Eyes is the only real identifiable one. I agree with what Spit said, take the name away and it could be any generic action film.

[Anarky]

So I saw it earlier tonight.

The fans will probably hate it because Scarlett doesn't really blink in the way she should or that the tank should be two feet longer. If you're a fan, you'll hate it. It's as simple as that. But that's okay, since it's not really the movie's fault, but the fault of the fans who are known to be f**ktarts (any fandom, really, not just limited to GI Joe).

In any case... it was a fun movie. You could laugh, you could go "Oh, shiiii..." and you had a couple of big-hero moments, which usually are pretty awesome as well. Naturally, a lot of stuff blows up and by a lot of stuff, I do mean lot of stuff. There are fight scenes everywhere. Hand to hand, jeep vs. plane, person vs. plane, submarine vs. submarine, gunfights, swordfights, fistfights... you get the picture.

The only thing that bothered me was the romance subplot, which - I admit - wasn't just tacked on, but helped fulfill one of the Joe's motto. The only other thing that bothers me now, hours after I've finished watching it, was that the story seems to get lost after its been established, but I've been too busy enjoying the action sequences to pay attention to the story.

So, final verdict: It's a fun film. Nothing monumentally epic, but fun. Stuff blows up, the Joes do what the Joes do best and it's time well-spent. If you're a fan, though, just stay away from it, because you'll hate it anyways. Mainly because Cobra Commander's mask doesn't look precisely like the one in the fifth episode of the second season of the original series where Cobra tries to take over the world by killing every coffee machine in the world using a secret coffee-gene.

[GK Punk]

I haven't seen it, but I kind of disagree with that "If you're a fan you'll hate it" thing. I am a huge Joe fan, and I love all I've seen for it so far. I'm dying to see this movie.

[XERO]

I like it for the fact that Marlon Wayans is in it.

[cqb101]

Just saw it...It was really, really fun. I consider myself a casual GI Joe...Enough of a fan to get and laugh at all of the "in jokes" anyway. The movie was absurd, ridiculous, cheesy as hell, but I had a huge ass grin on my face the entire time. It's pure escapist fun.

Oh, and contrary to some rumors I've been hearing,

Snake Eyes does not talk.

[GK Punk]

Just got back from the theater. ****ing loved it. Going to see it again Tomorrow.

[Raph's Girl]

I went to the theatre expecting to hate this movie. But I came out actually loving it.

At first I wasn't too keen on the flashbacks but they actually fit in with the entire story.

It was an interesting origin for the Baroness (who actually IS a Baroness cuz she married into French royalty! Baroness Cobra-y *lol*), Rex er uh I mean evil scientist er uh I mean Cobra Commander (I barely recognized him from his 3rd Rock from the Sun days), and Destro-yer (loved the origin of the mask. A kind of man in the iron mask type thing).

The origin for Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes was somewhat similar to the recent Anime. Except they were much younger when the Sensei was killed and Snake Eyes didn't talk to honour the memory of the man who braught a street rat out from the cold.

Zartan and Rip Cord totally cracked me up. Truly the funniest and coolest characters in the entire film. :lol:

Now the thing that bugged me before I saw the film was the lack of St. Slaughter. But by the end of the film I came to realize that they basically made The Baroness into the role of the character who switches sides (she'll probably be evil again in the sequel :lol: )

I just wish they hadn't killed off Cover Girl. There really wasn't any point of her even being in the movie. She didn't really do anything.

[GK Punk]

Ok, GI Joe nerd has to pick apart your post a bit. Sorry.


At first I wasn't too keen on the flashbacks but they actually fit in with the entire story.

It was an interesting origin for the Baroness (who actually IS a Baroness cuz she married into French royalty! Baroness Cobra-y *lol*), Rex er uh I mean evil scientist er uh I mean Cobra Commander (I barely recognized him from his 3rd Rock from the Sun days), and Destro-yer (loved the origin of the mask. A kind of man in the iron mask type thing).

Anastasia Decobray was always her name originally. Deobcray wasn't something they threw in to the movie for a Cobra reference. Second, The Destro origin has also always been part of the story in both comic and cartoon.


The origin for Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes was somewhat similar to the recent Anime. Except they were much younger when the Sensei was killed and Snake Eyes didn't talk to honour the memory of the man who braught a street rat out from the cold.

Again, the origin was based more on the comic than anything else. And what anime do you mean? Sigma 6? I don't remember their origin story from that, but if you mean Resolute, it wasn't an anime. Difference was in the comic, Zartan killed the Hard Master and Snake Eyes is silent due to his vocal chords being damaged during a mission


Now the thing that bugged me before I saw the film was the lack of St. Slaughter. But by the end of the film I came to realize that they basically made The Baroness into the role of the character who switches sides (she'll probably be evil again in the sequel :lol: )

Wait what? I don't remember Sgt Slaughter going bad? And of course he couldn't be in the movie, he's an old man. And he owns the character and gimmick, he loaned it to hasbro.


I just wish they hadn't killed off Cover Girl. There really wasn't any point of her even being in the movie. She didn't really do anything.

Yeah, that made no sense really. They could have named her basically anything. Too bad it was Cover Girl.

[Peanut]

Is anyone else highly amused by the use of spoiler tags in a GI Joe movie thread?

[GK Punk]

There were plot twists and what have you, so some people may not want to know what happens.

[Anarky]

There also were many EXPLOSIONS!!!

[GK Punk]

And they were all awesome.

[Slap-Happy]

Is it me, or did General Hawk have a...pretty quick recovery from his injuries by Storm Shadow?

I also thought it was strange that...Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow are both called those names by their master.

And Scarlett. What a...cheating whore. You're with Snake Eyes goddamm*t!

[Brodie]

I saw it, and I have to say....pretty entertaining.

The CGI wasn't great, but atleast I could tell what was happening, unlike with Transformers 2.

I had way more fun watching this than that flick, even if Channing Tatum sucks at acting.

Genuinely surprised by how good it was. Seemed like people in charge/involved knew they were making a movie based on toys, and didn't take itself too seriously. I thought it was handled really well, serious enough for the subject material, but light enough that the zany/ridiculous stuff didn't seem like it -wouldn't- happen in this movie/universe.

Anyone else catch Snake Eyes rocking a thug hoodie? (not talking about his normal hooded trenchcoat, or hooded sweatshirt...)

[Leo656]

The NY Post review trashed it, but the guy always admits he was a jock in school and "too cool to play with toys" in the 80s, so I'm not surprised he was overly harsh. Why they have people with no knowledge of the subject matter review certain flicks, I'll never know...

Either way, we're going to see it tomorrow. Sounds like it'll be better than Transformers 2 at least. That movie was ass every second there weren't any giant robots on-screen. I hope in this the jokes are at least half-funny.

[Brodie]

Rest assured, no one chases their retarded pot-addled mother.

[GK Punk]

Is it me, or did General Hawk have a...pretty quick recovery from his injuries by Storm Shadow?


Well, he was using a cane for a majority of the film after that point, so i guess it's debatable.

Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow are both called those names by their master.

Snake Eyes name has never been revealed, so I guess they were just trying to keep up with that. And Storm Shadow's name is Arashikage. Which is literally, Storm Shadow. so that is his name ;)


And Scarlett. What a...cheating whore. You're with Snake Eyes goddamm*t!

Well this isn't the comics, and they never specified she was dating Snake in this movie, just that they were interested in each other. I'd imagine it would be hard to tell a love story on film with Snake Eyes. At least harder than it would be in the comics. Even though I am a huge Supporter of the Snake Eyes and Scarlett relationship.

I also think I noticed a Jinx cameo, which made me smile.

Oh and Leo, yeah it's a lot better than Transformers 2. I think you'll dig it. Brodie's review was pretty spot on.

[SassyGal]

I saw GI Joe last night & it was way better than I thought it would be. There were a couple of plot points that made me role my eyes, but other than that it was fun and full of explosions! I like it enough to see it again :)

[cqb101]

I also think I noticed a Jinx cameo, which made me smile.



The short haired girl who puts on the invisible suit when they're doing the tour of the headquarters? I thought that was Jinx and I got all giddy.

[XERO]

So how did Wayans do as Ripcord?

[GK Punk]

Surprisingly good. I didn't think I'd like him in this movie, but I actually did.

[XERO]

He's probably the most talented Wayans out of the family, IMO. When they're not making me LMAO, that is.

But, that's good to know. :)

[TheCanadiandrome]

yeah Wayans was really good in this. he had the theater laughing every time. and i thought he was better than Channing Tatum, although he wasn't too bad.

loved the origin stories for some of the characters, though i wish they would've given more of what happened to Baroness. but liked the Storm Shadow/Snake Eye back story. wonder if Storm Shadow is really gone?

also, why did they make Cobra Commander look lame? why couldn't they at least have gotten the mask to look like the cartoon? Destro at least looked like he should.

also, now that the dude who's impersonating the President is in the White House, is he going to "pardon" Cobra Commander and Destro for the sequel?

[Leo656]

We loved it. Mary had a fangasm... I never saw the show as much as a lot of people here have, but I watched it, just not really remembering it. But I thought it was awesome. One or two minor quibbles aside, I'd say it was a great action flick. Not usually a fan of "stuff blows up" movies, but this was fun. Already looking forward to the sequel.

Yo JOE! 8)

[Jester]

Here's the big question:
Is it better than Transformers 2: The Revenge of the Fallen? :P

EDIT:Oh...Brodie and GK already said it was...ooops. :D

[Brodie]

That's already been answered. READ JESTER.

[Jester]

You expect members of this forum to read? Besides it was a whole page ago....:D

[saiyan_monkey]

I so can't wait to see this movie

[TigerClaw]

Brandon Frasier had a little cameo as Gung-Ho.

[Leo656]

Izzat who he was? Huh, I missed them mentioning the character's name...

[Brodie]

Pretty sure his cameo was supposed to be Shipwreck...Ski-doo and all. Everything leading up to the movie said he was Shipwreck.

Edit: other stuff on the net says he might have been Flint.

[GK Punk]

also, why did they make Cobra Commander look lame? why couldn't they at least have gotten the mask to look like the cartoon? Destro at least looked like he should.

Because to be honest, that would look incredibly lame on film. I thought he looked pretty good actually. I saw it a second time today, and still am in love with it right now. I was so afraid of it being bad.

[Raph's Girl]

Brandon Frasier had a little cameo as Gung-Ho.

No.. He was Sgt. Stone. He's a Descendent of Rick O'Connell from the Mummy movies.

And the reason for Cobra Commander's mask was cuz they thought the original looked too much like a KKK mask. *lol*

[Brodie]

And the reason for Cobra Commander's mask was cuz they thought the original looked too much like a KKK mask. *lol*

In what way does a KKK mask constitute laughing-out-loud?

[XERO]

In what way does a KKK mask constitute laughing-out-loud?

I was gonna say 'Dave Chappelle', but besides that...:ohwell:

[TheCanadiandrome]

Because to be honest, that would look incredibly lame on film. I thought he looked pretty good actually. I saw it a second time today, and still am in love with it right now. I was so afraid of it being bad.

yeah, but i've seen live action versions of it and it doesn't look lame at all. it looks a heck of alot better than the version in the film imo.

and who thought it looked like KKK? the KKK mask looks nothing like Cobra Commander's mask. there is now reason why this couldn't have been used:

http://www.millionaireplayboy.com/mpb/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/cobra_commander.jpg

[GK Punk]

He would look really silly, especially with the rest of the character design style of the movie. It just wouldn't work well. I'm actually really glad they didn't use it. And the KKK thing was about the hood, not the face plate.

The one in the movie reminds me of a mix between the faceplate and battle armor helmet.

[Fledermaus]

That was such an stupid movie. But it was fun. Good, mindless fun. Much better than Transformers 2.

I hope this movie got dubbed for the Asian releases -- The Japanese character Storm Shadow speaks very obvious Korean in childhood and adulthood. I understand that the Korean actors probably don't know Japanese, but they could have easily found one Japanese speaker IRL or online to write out some romanized Japanese for the script. Korean is the closest relative to the Japanese language -- pronunciation would be a breeze. Whatever. It made the movie funnier and all the more enjoyable.

[TheCanadiandrome]

He would look really silly, especially with the rest of the character design style of the movie. It just wouldn't work well. I'm actually really glad they didn't use it. And the KKK thing was about the hood, not the face plate.

The one in the movie reminds me of a mix between the faceplate and battle armor helmet.

well i guess we disagree.

i had hoped at least one other character would resemble his cartoon counter part other than Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow

[The Stryker]

Comic convention costumes does not = Looks good in movie.

[GK Punk]

Storm Shadow looked nothing like the cartoon version.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Storm Shadow looked nothing like the cartoon version.

he sorta did. ah well whatever still a good movie

[GK Punk]

Just wearing white and a Ninja Mask. The rest of the costume was completely different. Snake Eyes was closer, he was based on the V2 Snake Eyes, they just gave him pants and had his mouth showing.

[TheCanadiandrome]

so to get away from how they looked, overall what did you think of the movies representation of the characters?

[GK Punk]

I think they were pretty good, considering how much change they brought to the table with them. Hawk and Snake Eyes were probably the closest to the comics (And toon also most likely) Storm Shadow and Destro were also pretty much spot on. Zartan had a huge change to his character, but I ended up liking it to my surprise. Baroness for obvious reasons was VERY different, but by the end of the movie I liked what they did. Just took me some time to get used to it.

Ripcord, Heavy Duty, Scarlet and Breaker were all close but still a little off to what I expect of them. Breaker eating the gum and blowing a bubble killed me. Little references like that to the comics made me smile.

[Newton Gimmick]

Not trying to argue, but I don't think there was much change to Zartan's character actually. He was a ruthless master of disguise. Now in terms of looks, yeah he looked a lot different. Granted he didn't lead the Dreadnoks or anything (that we know of) but I thought he was played pretty faithful actually. Zartan is really nothing like the rest of the Dreadnoks even though he leads them. There's even a hint of tension between him and Storm Shadow which of course, is a big comic plot device. I've heard that there may be some cuts done that reveal they stayed pretty close to the comics with that but didn't end up in the final.

I didn't care for the Baroness plot device (just the end half part not necessarily the relationships) but I thought she was played decent enough.

As I said in my review of the movie, GI Joe I feel has always been a lot about interpretation of the characters, not necessarily one set canon. The interpretations were different but good.

I really dug how awesome the Vipers were. Some incredible scenes with them in the movie.

Channing Tatum was pretty terrible I thought though. Like, it was excusable because the movie had so much good fun action going on, but he had the acting chops of a fan film.

And yeah, Fraiser was Sgt. Stone.

[Brodie]

Best actor in the movie? Ray Park.

[GK Punk]

Not trying to argue, but I don't think there was much change to Zartan's character actually. He was a ruthless master of disguise. Now in terms of looks, yeah he looked a lot different. Granted he didn't lead the Dreadnoks or anything (that we know of) but I thought he was played pretty faithful actually. Zartan is really nothing like the rest of the Dreadnoks even though he leads them. There's even a hint of tension between him and Storm Shadow which of course, is a big comic plot device. I've heard that there may be some cuts done that reveal they stayed pretty close to the comics with that but didn't end up in the final.

No worries at all with that. he just didn't seem to have that tough biker vibe that I kind of think of Zartan. And yeah I caught the Zartan/Storm tension, that was pretty cool. I was disappointed that he seemed to be cut out of the history of Arashikage clan. I actually really did enjoy him in this movie.

[Newton Gimmick]

THIS needs to be seen: http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/076041c13b/the-ballad-of-g-i-joe

[Raph's Girl]

THIS needs to be seen: http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/076041c13b/the-ballad-of-g-i-joe

Sgt. Slaughter!!! :lol: That was awesome!! :D

[GK Punk]

Was that Henry Rollins as Duke? :lol:

[SassyGal]

THIS needs to be seen: http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/076041c13b/the-ballad-of-g-i-joe

That was hilarious! :lol:

[Jester]

That was great....and I'm not even really a big fan of GI Joe.

[Dan]

And the reason for Cobra Commander's mask was cuz they thought the original looked too much like a KKK mask. *lol* What they didn't want to offend the KKK?

[Canadian Turtle]

So just got back from this today. I literally based my decision to see this movie over district 9 tonight because people on here seemed to like the GI Joe movie....

I have to say it was mildly entertaining and it might be social suicide but i thought Transformers one and two were way better as far as cartoon movies go. I thought it was very predictable and poorly shot and composed as a movie as to be expected but they could have done way better either way.

I have to admit I never really watched the show as a kid, but have since and understand the basic story structure and cultural phenomenon. However from a Joe fan perspective what in this movie paid proper homage to the old cartoon? Were the ships direct references? did they get some of the weapons right? what were some of the throw backs? I love those things and want to know.

I am all for a new take on old stories but man it would be cool if they actually did a live action version of the cartoon as best they could. Make the characters look and act like the cartoon, make the world they live in their own. I am tired of these throw back movies that try to fit these stories into todays world, its stupid. This is probably another reason why the Batman movies did so well, they supported the source material better. I don't know just a thought.

[Warhorse]

So just got back from this today. I literally based my decision to see this movie over district 9 tonight because people on here seemed to like the GI Joe movie....

I have to say it was mildly entertaining and it might be social suicide but i thought Transformers one and two were way better as far as cartoon movies go. I thought it was very predictable and poorly shot and composed as a movie as to be expected but they could have done way better either way.

I have to admit I never really watched the show as a kid, but have since and understand the basic story structure and cultural phenomenon. However from a Joe fan perspective what in this movie paid proper homage to the old cartoon? Were the ships direct references? did they get some of the weapons right? what were some of the throw backs? I love those things and want to know.

I am all for a new take on old stories but man it would be cool if they actually did a live action version of the cartoon as best they could. Make the characters look and act like the cartoon, make the world they live in their own. I am tired of these throw back movies that try to fit these stories into todays world, its stupid. This is probably another reason why the Batman movies did so well, they supported the source material better. I don't know just a thought.

So, how did you like Snake Eyes? He's stunted by Ray Park (he did Darth Maul in Star Wars 1, TPM, Toad in X-Men 1, The Headless Horseman in Sleepy Hollow) How do you think he'd do as Leo's stunt double if the new TMNT movie is going to live action again?

[Canadian Turtle]

So, how did you like Snake Eyes? He's stunted by Ray Park (he did Darth Maul in Star Wars 1, TPM, Toad in X-Men 1, The Headless Horseman in Sleepy Hollow) How do you think he'd do as Leo's stunt double if the new TMNT movie is going to live action again?

Well to be honest I didn't really think much on him, I couldn't get past his stupid lips. I think they dropped the ball on look in this movie big time. The costumes in general were overall lame and predictable. Even in the very first scene in the flashback it felt WAYYYY over produced and silly.

I think that Snake Eyes was to big, I didn't feel his stealth at all, and in which case don't think he was an amazing suit performer. To clumsy in my opinion. Overall... meh.

[Warhorse]

Well to be honest I didn't really think much on him, I couldn't get past his stupid lips. I think they dropped the ball on look in this movie big time. The costumes in general were overall lame and predictable. Even in the very first scene in the flashback it felt WAYYYY over produced and silly.

I think that Snake Eyes was to big, I didn't feel his stealth at all, and in which case don't think he was an amazing suit performer. To clumsy in my opinion. Overall... meh.

How was he clumbsy? Did you not notice the pretty good swordsmanship in the movie?

[The Stryker]

Well to be honest I didn't really think much on him, I couldn't get past his stupid lips. I think they dropped the ball on look in this movie big time. The costumes in general were overall lame and predictable.

How can a costume be predictable?

[Anarky]

In the sense that you can say things like:

"Snake Eyes will wear black!"
"Cobra Commander will wear a mask!"
"Destro will have a metal head!"
"The Joes will wear military uniforms or variants thereof!"

Predictable! My God, how could they! I am offended that Snake Eyes did not wear a tutu and moon boots. This movie sucks!

[Canadian Turtle]

Actually not at all! Dude I think the unique thing would be to uphold the source material and make it good! They are all wearing silly 'future war' black armor suits very over produced and boring looking. Not at all badass or unique. If someone told me they were going to make a futuristic war movie with super soldiers I could have painted you a picture of those suits and said this is the written by committee crap they will come up with.

Sorry, I just think this was not a great fan service and I'm not even a true Joe's fan.

[GK Punk]

Well I am a big Joe fan, and I disagree with you completely. It told a good Joe story, much better than the original cartoon ever did.

Would you have prefered they had a section in the movie where Destro did a stand up routine to raise money for Cobra like they did in the cartoon?

Feel free to not like the movie, but don't say it's not a good Joe movie in the same sentence as "Im not a true fan."

[Hordak]

I still want to see this. I have always loved G.I. Joe. Big fan of Snake-Eyes! I like his look in the movie & don't mind the lips on the mask. I like Storms look just wish they had left off the gun. From what I have seen in the comic adaptation it looks to be a build up to the sequel. Which I hope has Fire Fly in it! I wasn't to happy with the commander or Rip Cord. He should have been Stalker. And Heavy Duty should have been Road Block. And wish Destro would have worn the mask in the whole movie but guess that is for the sequel. Looks like a good action flick any way. But it would have been nice to see more green & not all the black ops. Thats why Snake Eyes stuck more in the series cause he was the only one in all black!