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Slap-Happy
01-13-2008, 12:33 AM
Which villains would you like to see in Spider-Man 4?

My choices are:
Kraven
Lizard
or Carnage

Mr._Mutant_Man
01-13-2008, 12:36 AM
Lizard. I wouldn't mind seeing Doc Ock back as well. I'm going to go with the comic book rule: we didn't see him totally dismembered or anything, so he could possibly still be alive.

Slap-Happy
01-13-2008, 12:37 AM
Lizard. I wouldn't mind seeing Doc Ock back as well. I'm going to go with the comic book rule: we didn't see him totally dismembered or anything, so he could possibly still be alive.
Maybe Namor could have saved him:lol:

Mr._Mutant_Man
01-13-2008, 12:39 AM
Maybe Namor could have saved him:lol:

Maybe Namor could run into Spider-Man, and they fight at first but team up by the end? Just like in every Marvel crossover.

Slap-Happy
01-13-2008, 12:41 AM
Maybe Namor could run into Spider-Man, and they fight at first but team up by the end? Just like in every Marvel crossover.
which would set up the Sub Mariner movie

Mr._Mutant_Man
01-13-2008, 12:47 AM
which would set up the Sub Mariner movie

I'm not sure if he would really be able to carry his own movie. I've never found him as interesting as any of the other Marvel characters. He could work in the next FF movie too, if there is one.

Slap-Happy
01-13-2008, 12:59 AM
I'm not sure if he would really be able to carry his own movie. I've never found him as interesting as any of the other Marvel characters. He could work in the next FF movie too, if there is one.
Or a Captain America movie with the original human torch

KROW
01-13-2008, 01:22 AM
Lizard played by the same dude who portrayed Curt Connors in #2 and Mysterio played by Bruce Campbell.

Jester
01-13-2008, 01:29 AM
Um....he was portrayed by the same guy in 2 and 3.

KROW
01-13-2008, 01:41 AM
Lizard played by the same dude who portrayed Curt Connors in #2 and 3, and Mysterio played by Bruce Campbell.

Fixed. Mmkay? :D

AquaParade
01-13-2008, 02:37 AM
I'd like to see a Lizard-Kraven story, where Kraven acts as the hunter, and goes after Dr. Connors, pitting spider-man in the middle...and I know I'm not alone on that haha. I'd also love to see a bit of Kravens last hunt incorporated if possible.

The Stryker
01-13-2008, 02:42 AM
Stilt-Man.

Anyone who says different is dumb.

Ra
01-13-2008, 02:44 AM
I don't know why, but I would love to see Venom back. I guess I was a bit dissapointed with how everything went down in Spiderman 3. That aside, I say all signs are pointing to Lizard right now.

Slap-Happy
01-13-2008, 04:15 AM
I don't know why, but I would love to see Venom back. I guess I was a bit dissapointed with how everything went down in Spiderman 3. That aside, I say all signs are pointing to Lizard right now.
I say that the small sample of the "suit" that conners had in 3 escaped and turned into carnage because Cletus attempts Suicide by sliting his wrist but the suit seeps in through there and his bloodline becomes the suit.

cqb101
01-13-2008, 09:23 AM
I'd like to see a Lizard-Kraven story, where Kraven acts as the hunter, and goes after Dr. Connors, pitting spider-man in the middle...and I know I'm not alone on that haha. I'd also love to see a bit of Kravens last hunt incorporated if possible.

Sounds great to me.


Possible villains I'd like to see:

Mysterio
Kraven
Lizard
Shocker

Raph's Girl
01-13-2008, 11:18 AM
Lizard, Black Cat... Lizard.... have I mentioned Lizard yet??? :P

Seriously tho... was that really Venom??? He was never named. Doc "Im the Mary Sue of this movie!! Yay!!" Conners just refered to it as the symbiote. Only Sandman was named (and by the reporter no less).

Still wanna know how suddenly Doc Conner's was an expert in alien symbiotes. :roll:

But anyways.... Lizard most definatly, Black Cat, and maybe even Man Wolf.

AquaParade
01-13-2008, 12:22 PM
I don't think our chances of Venom returning are very likely. Topher Grace even said he wont go back for that role, and sure they could try and find someone to fill his shoes, but I dont think they'd put forth the effort. It's a shame they kinda messed up venom in the third one...It was a good movie, but it had soooo much more potential. So many cool things could have been done with the venom saga...but they compacted it into too little space.

Last I heard, Raimi, was trying to no longer speak publicly about what villians he wanted in the next film, so that whatever writer they hired wouldnt feel pressured to use the villians sam wants, thus making his story worse. So, if we dont end up with Lizard and Kraven, I would'nt mind them using the Vulture, as was planned for spider-man 3. An old guy in a suit..that could be really creepy...or really obnoxious..but I'm sure they'd do it right.

Zog the Equalizer
01-13-2008, 12:57 PM
Kingpin, Lizard, Mysterio, and this guy (http://www.superdickery.com/stupor/32.html)

AquaParade
01-13-2008, 01:12 PM
I'm pretty sure that as of now, Kingpin can only be used in Daredevil flick's. Don't take my word for it though.

Thinking today, I realized, If I could only have one more Spider-man movie ever...It's possible that I'd want it strongly based off of this...

http://i14.tinypic.com/8atz3md.jpg

Webspinners #1...I believe it was a three-parter...which I was never able to finish(Anyone ever read all three parts? How was it?) But theres just something I love about that issue. I absolutely love the way they handled Mysterio...I actually felt genuinely bad for the guy. It was this issue that made me respect Mysterio as a Spider-man villain. I would love to see it adapted along with the other parts...assuming they're just as good.

ToTheNines
01-13-2008, 01:41 PM
Sam Raimi :|

AquaParade
01-13-2008, 01:48 PM
Sam Raimi :|

There are definitely things I would have done differently with the Spider-man movie franchise, but I do love the three movies, and as a Spider-man fan find them very entertaining. Just curious as to what you don't like about Sam Raimi? Not questioning...just curious;) As I have complaints as well lol.

Brodie
01-13-2008, 02:13 PM
Because he cast Tobey McGuire...And didn't catch how terrible he was...or unfunny he was.

Oh wait, Spider-Man isn't funny? Oh. Then these are classy pictures, grade A.


**** that. I hope they do the clone saga so I can watch them kill Tobey McGuire a million times over.

AquaParade
01-13-2008, 02:16 PM
Agreed. They did'nt really represent the fact that when Peter puts on the outfit...he changes. It would have been super interesting to see a movie concentrate on who peter is with the mask...and who he is without it.. I love how confident it makes him. Overall though...I still think the movies are pretty good.

ThirdMarioBro
01-13-2008, 02:31 PM
Spider-man 4 without Raimi or the current case? No thanks. I'm happy with my trilogy just fine. The last thing I want is for them to try to serialize the franchise like those sh*ttactular old Batman movies where the cast rotated every sequel. If they want to start over with Spider-man, then they need to wait a few years, drop the "4" and do something else. The current trilogy is finished.

cowabunga14
01-13-2008, 06:06 PM
I would have to say Electro.

Raph's Girl
01-13-2008, 06:14 PM
Kingpin, Lizard, Mysterio, and this guy (http://www.superdickery.com/stupor/32.html)

Walrus could team up with Rhino! :lol:

As for Kingpin...they could easily get Michael Clark Duncan to reprise his role since he did so in the MTV Spider-Man series.

odupianist
01-14-2008, 11:00 AM
Lizard is already set up for it. I'd love to see Bruce as Mysterio. Will it happen doubtful. I think Vulture or Electro could be good as well. What about Morbius? That'd be interesting.

Raph's Girl
01-14-2008, 12:52 PM
Lizard is already set up for it. I'd love to see Bruce as Mysterio. Will it happen doubtful. I think Vulture or Electro could be good as well. What about Morbius? That'd be interesting.

Morbius or Man Wolf....or Frankenstein or....

Fugitoid Jones
01-15-2008, 04:06 AM
I would love to see the Lizard as the main villian, with either Kraven or the Vulture. But I think that if they wanted, they could add in a couple of the lesser villians like Rhino and the Shocker, but not try to give them as much screen time as the two big baddies. That's what hurt Spidey 3. Too many villians that demanded equal screen time. Make Rhino and the Shocker small roles.

VaughnMichael
01-15-2008, 09:38 AM
Lizard all the way I finally saw the new spider man movie btw I didn't mind it so much I enjoyed the sandman part but I hated Eddy Brock *sp and I don't think that lil goblin jr. needed to die it just seemed like way to many tragic things went down in this movie. I also didn't care much for it being mostly love story stuff and marry jane comes off as a total selfish b1tch, and yet at the end everythings A ok..

Slap-Happy
01-15-2008, 10:07 PM
I hope they can in some way include the Sinister SIX

cqb101
01-15-2008, 10:18 PM
I hope they can in some way include the Sinister SIX

I don't. There were only 3 villains in number 3, and look how much of a cluster**** that turned out to be.

AquaParade
01-15-2008, 10:28 PM
At least wait until the franchise dishes out two unwatchable peices of crap movies...and then do a sinister six one we can all laugh at. In the meantime, they should work on making Spider-man 4 a little more like the masterpeice that 2 was. Spider-man 3 was a good comic book movie...but nothing more then that in my opinion.

Fledermaus
01-15-2008, 11:36 PM
I want to see a remake of Spider-Man 3, where Venom is less of a pussy and more of... what he's supposed to be.

But that's never gonna happen, so how about the lizard next time? Nothing over the top. Just a nice, down to earth villain like the first two. No need to shoot for the moon (or an asteroid for that matter). Let the execution be twisted and baroque. Not the concept. Keep the concept simple. :)

Oh yeah... and Spidey ought to crack a few real jokes now and then.

odupianist
01-16-2008, 02:10 PM
That was my biggest gripe on SM 3, them using the Ultimate universe Eddie Brock instead of the original big buff bad ass.

Spike Spiegel
01-18-2008, 03:49 PM
I don't know why, but I would love to see Venom back. I guess I was a bit dissapointed with how everything went down in Spiderman 3. That aside, I say all signs are pointing to Lizard right now.


Venom totally could have survived, plus there's still a piece of symbiote...somewhere.

AquaParade
01-18-2008, 04:01 PM
I want to see a remake of Spider-Man 3, where Venom is less of a pussy and more of... what he's supposed to be.

But that's never gonna happen, so how about the lizard next time? Nothing over the top. Just a nice, down to earth villain like the first two. No need to shoot for the moon (or an asteroid for that matter). Let the execution be twisted and baroque. Not the concept. Keep the concept simple. :)

Oh yeah... and Spidey ought to crack a few real jokes now and then.

I agree. I wasn't too thrilled about how they handled venom, but even if they did do a better job, the whole alien thing just does'nt sit right with me in Raimi's universe. And ya...some jokes would definitely be appreciated...as long as they dont make a tmnt2k3 mikey out of him.

cqb101
01-18-2008, 04:20 PM
Venom totally could have survived, plus there's still a piece of symbiote...somewhere.

Ya, because seeing Eddie Brock's body incinerated and his bones turned to ash, doesn;t mean anything, he could totally still be alive! :roll:

Jo269976
01-20-2008, 09:20 AM
My Choices:


Carnage (Probably won't be done though, most people who don't know the character will think of him as a venom rip-off, kind of seen-that impression :ohwell:)

Mysterio (Bruce Campbell - prefect choice :lol:)

The Lizard - Most probable choice

Michael Morbius - Great tie-in for Black Cat


I would also like to see Black Cat involved, this could lead to Morbius being the villain.

However they should stick to two villains at the most, there's not enough time for more to have a good amount of screen time.

KROW
01-20-2008, 11:14 PM
My Choices:


Carnage (Probably won't be done though, most people who don't know the character will think of him as a venom rip-off, kind of seen-that impression :ohwell:)

Mysterio (Bruce Campbell - prefect choice :lol:)

The Lizard - Most probable choice

Michael Morbius - Great tie-in for Black Cat


I would also like to see Black Cat involved, this could lead to Morbius being the villain.

However they should stick to two villains at the most, there's not enough time for more to have a good amount of screen time.

Agreed on many points here. I think the perfect premise for SM4 would be for Mysterio to be revealed as the mastermind behind the previous films, played by Bruce Campbell simply because of the similarities between them and a funny way to explain why he was portraying so many different background characters throughout Peter's adventures. But that's just me.

And two villains per film is plenty, like I've said before. Too many ruin the plot, like in Batman & Robin (among other reasons for that one).

Fugitoid Jones
01-22-2008, 12:20 AM
I find it funny that Richard Donner was able to successfully fit in 4 villains into Superman II (Zod, Ursa, Non, and Lex), but Sam Raimi couldn't fit 3 into Spidey 3. It is possible to fit the Sinister Six into a movie, they just can't give equal screen time to each villain. Make one or two villains the forefront of the team and give them the most screen time, and the rest are just supporting members.