TMNT Vol 4 on Wowio

[Raph's Girl]

As some of you might know Mirage has decided that Vol 4 will be online for free. They decided to place it on wowio.com Of course wowio (a free website sponsered annoyingly by Verizon) has catches:

1: Your email address can't be non-anonymous (a work emai, ISP email, or school email address will work)
2: If you don't have any of those you can sign up by sending them a scan of your ID card
3: Or you can sign up via a credit card (which will be pinged like a penny)
4: It's only for those in the U.S.A

Yes it's a pain to join...but I got on with the help of a friend who graciously got me on via their isp email (thanks again Slash)

Once you get on there are OTHER catches:
1: You can only DL 3 books per day
2: The books are PDF's (so you have to have PDF to read em)

It's all worth it in the end tho..I've found numerous books that I've either been looking for, like issues of Adolescent Radioactive Blackbelt Hamsters :D...I love that series) or books I didn't know existed.

Anyways. Vol 4 has started to be uploaded onto Wowio. I just checked and the first 2 issues are on right now! Can't wait to DL issue 29!

[Kunoichi_Haruko]

Oh sweet, I already have a wowio account! Now I have even more incentive to use the thing more often. Thanks for posting this!

[Buffy]

Too bad it's only for people from the US :(

[blue_angel99]

Awesome news! I am so eager to read #29....:D

[Raph's Girl]

Ooh... 3 and 4 have been added now

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

All they have on there so far are the first four issues. SURELY everyone has read those by now.

[Raph's Girl]

I know several people who haven't. I've read em yea... but I mostly signed on to wowio to get Adolescent Radioactive Blackbelt Hamster books. :lol: Altho I had initially found out about it from a star trek news site when they (wowio) added the Gold Key TOS books. And now TMNT vol 4! Now if only they'd add Vol 2 (which I don't have everything of).

[PAAATE]

Too bad it's only for people from the US :(

Couldn't agree more :x:evil::cry:

[Coola Yagami]

It's the internet. How can anyone really tell? What if I signed in from Mexico?

[Raph's Girl]

It's the internet. How can anyone really tell? What if I signed in from Mexico?

They look at the ISP numbers. Which is why it's such a pain in the arse to sign up for it.

[Raph's Girl]

Issues 1 - 7 are now available on Wowio. Im hoping issue 29 will be available by the end of the week. *crosses fingers* :D

[TristanHuwJones]

Bugs the Hell out of me - I can't even access the new Vol.4 stuff unless it goes into physical publication, and I'm writing for Tales! :(

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

Well, the book IS going to be available in print to buy as well. I would think that Mirage would send you samples since you need to be up to date on the canon-- a lot of Tales stories have been inspired by events that took place during the course of Volume 4.

[turkishproverb]

Bugs the Hell out of me - I can't even access the new Vol.4 stuff unless it goes into physical publication, and I'm writing for Tales! :(

Wowio's website says they're planning to go international eventually.

[Roseangelo]

International friends can email me (I would say PM, but it's full right now, so you might not be able to) with your full name and birthday and I'll try to get you hooked-up with an account. It might take several days per person, though, so patience!

[Scandia]

Needless to say, I already read the first 3 issues today! Can't wait for more.

Other than the clearly visible alien invasion, they are actually pretty good.

Jay looks like Howie.

Raptarr is so cool.

Coexistence with aliens is fine for Fast Forward- since by then the Turtles are deceased and it is clearly in the far future. But not while the Turtles have their regular lifetime in the present.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

All they have on there so far are the first four issues. SURELY everyone has read those by now.

I've only read one of them. Back when Vol. 4 first came out I had no clue about Turtles comics. I saw them on the shelf but I hadn't read vol. 1-3.

I was thinking about looking for the issues. Now I can read them this way first, to see if it's as bad as everyone says before I possibly add the comics to my collection.

[Raph's Girl]

Wowio's website says they're planning to go international eventually.

This is what they explain in their FAQ:

Do I have to be a United States resident to sign up to WOWIO?
For now, WOWIO is only available to people living in the United States. Copyright laws vary by country and currently our licensing restrictions limit distribution to U.S. residents.

[Scandia]

Read 4-6 this morning.

So far, the only part I dislike would be the "multicolored bandannas being too dorky". I think this would have been a good time to introduce them in Mirage- or if they did not want to, it was still not necessary to mention them.

[PAAATE]

International friends can email me

No, we can't.. Or at least I can't.. :cry:

[Rooish]

Could anyone explain to me why Pete is such a tool? Fine, if he doesn't want his foreign fans to read his series, I won't. It seems like it was drawn and written by a ten-year-old, anyway.

[odupianist]

Hmm having problems creating an account

[Kunoichi_Haruko]

Oh dear, I keep forgetting that quite a few people here aren't in the U.S. Maybe he should've launched his own website and put the comics up there for everyone to see, but he gets paid for putting them at wowio, doesn't he? I mean, there's usually advertisements by Verizon & others in front of the books, are they in front of the comics, too (I haven't gone to wowio yet to see for myself)?...

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Read 4-6 this morning.

So far, the only part I dislike would be the "multicolored bandannas being too dorky". I think this would have been a good time to introduce them in Mirage- or if they did not want to, it was still not necessary to mention them.

Seeing as how the comics are in black and white I don't see the need to have mentioned them.

Since it's in black and white, sometimes I imagine that they adopted the multicolored bandannas at one point.:)

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

I think he put that in there to try to be funny, not to slight the cartoon turtles. After all, the turtles have multi-colored bandannas in the new cartoon and they had them in the movie. If Pete had really wanted, he probably could have had it otherwise.

[The Shelf]

I think he put that in there to try to be funny, not to slight the cartoon turtles. After all, the turtles have multi-colored bandannas in the new cartoon and they had them in the movie. If Pete had really wanted, he probably could have had it otherwise.

It was just a joke. I believe it was in one of the letters pages that Pete said he has no problem at all with the multicolored bandannas. I don't know if he prefers the red or not, but he has no problem with the multicolored ones. It was just a joke, and I thought it was funny.

[Andrew NDB]

I don't know if he prefers the red or not, but he has no problem with the multicolored ones. It was just a joke, and I thought it was funny.

If you ask me, multi-colored bandannas are the joke. But they're not even in the same league as the letters on the belts in terms of insanity/stupidity... but like most, I've come to accept the multi-colored rubbish as a necessary evil in the larger TMNT media.

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

Multi-colored bandannas are the least of the my problems concerning the larger TMNT media.

[Raph's Girl]

I mean, there's usually advertisements by Verizon & others in front of the books, are they in front of the comics, too (I haven't gone to wowio yet to see for myself)?...

Yea...The comics have ads for Verizon. I haven't seen any other types of ads tho. Also when you DL a book they ask that you click on a smiley face, that apperantly tells Verizon to give em more money or something.

[Raph's Girl]

From ninjaturtles.com

TMNT Volume Four issues #1-7 are now available for legal download at www.WOWIO.com!

WOWIO is currently only available for U.S. residents and to sign up for their free downloading service (limited to three books per day) you'll need a private e-mail address (i.e. you can't use major providers such as Google, Yahoo, G-Mail, etc.), a scan of a personal I.D. or a valid credit card. See their site for more details.

We're looking into international options to provide the books for free download to everyone outside of the U.S., but due to the complexities of international copyright law, we may not have much success on that end. If all else fails, we'll post low res JPGs of the issues on our site like the issues from Volume One (currently linked at the bottom of the Comics page).

The plan is to post issues #8-14 in February, issues #15-21 in March and issues #22-28 in April. In May, all-new issues will begin with TMNT #29, and from there, a new book will be posted as often as Peter, Jim and Eric can complete them!

May?! ARGH!!!! :o

[oldmanwinters]

I had never even heard of Wowio until now. I really like the idea of downloading high quality scans of comics for FREE!!! Criticisms not withstanding, I'm really looking forward to seeing more issues on this site.

[Roseangelo]

Ok, this is lame. Murphy said the art for the first two issues was complete. If that's the case, and we're not going to see them until May anyways, they might as well just sell/solicit through Diamond!

[Andrew NDB]

Ok, this is lame. Murphy said the art for the first two issues was complete. If that's the case, and we're not going to see them until May anyways, they might as well just sell/solicit through Diamond!

But I think Diamond has a set of fees and minimum orders/print runs, things of this nature (though granted I know little about the specific logistics of any of this, but I know enough to know that it's not as simple as you suggest) that all, still, leave Laird with a book that loses money. I think the general idea is to put the book online, then do a very small print run that just the niche fans will buy... then he only gets pure profit and little, if any, unsold books. In theory.

Not saying I agree with it, but it kind of makes sense to me from a standpoint of, "OK, TMNT Volume 4 doesn't make money, the way it's going it's never going to make money, and I'm not going to try and change the way I do the book so as to have it make money" while still doing the same book he enjoys/enjoyed putting out in Vol. 4 but now in such a way that it won't actually cost him money at the end of the day.

But at any rate, color me completely disinterested in these online TMNT comics. I'll check out the new Vol. 4 issues when they start coming out online, then order the print ones from Mirage or whatever and that's the end of it.

[Roseangelo]

Oh, I have no doubt it's about money. But Peter's statement/announcement about the online comics only said he didn't like Diamond's deadlines OR the huge amount of time between finishing the comic and seeing the finished book in a store, which Diamond's deadlines require. Waiting five months for a virtually complete comic book does nothing to beat either of those complaints. It'd just be nice if he could be frank and honest.

Mind you, I have absolutely no issues with the comics not being in stores, as their presence embarrasses me as a fan.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

If you ask me, multi-colored bandannas are the joke. But they're not even in the same league as the letters on the belts in terms of insanity/stupidity... but like most, I've come to accept the multi-colored rubbish as a necessary evil in the larger TMNT media.

I thought the multi-colored bandannas looked all right in the live action movie. It makes it hard for people to ID the turtles otherwise unless they have their weapons on them constantly. In the black and white comic it doesn't matter one way or the other, but when you get to the larger TMNT media, it kind of makes sense to try to differentiate the turtles, especially marketing wise. It gives the parents more justification to buy all four of the turtles for the kids, instead of going "wait, they all look the same anyway".

[Andrew NDB]

Multi-colored bandannas are the least of the my problems concerning the larger TMNT media.

How true.

I thought the multi-colored bandannas looked all right in the live action movie. It makes it hard for people to ID the turtles otherwise unless they have their weapons on them constantly. In the black and white comic it doesn't matter one way or the other, but when you get to the larger TMNT media, it kind of makes sense to try to differentiate the turtles, especially marketing wise.

Strictly marketing-wise. There's simply no good reason for the Turtles to go about making fashion statements to each other with brightly, different colored bandannas... they're a ninja clan -- albeit, a small one, but one nonetheless. Also, my old Feudal Japan history might be a little muddy, but I'm fairly certain ninja clans weren't worried about differentiating themselves from one another... in fact, this would be robbing themselves of a vital bit of possible misdirection in battle, which is the name of the game. Four ninja that look alike, all wearing red bandannas blending in and out of the dark trying to kill you... yeah, you wouldn't know what the **** is going on, and that's the idea.

But I don't dwell on it too much in the spinoff universes -- only in the original, Mirage source material were they ever actually portrayed as real ninja... raised, trained, and conditioned for the sole purpose of assassinating Oroku Saki. The spinoff universes, their "ninja" training is just window dressing, so who cares what bandanna color they have.

[Scandia]

Just read number 7.

What is the purpose of the Superhero Turtles? And why would they turn Splinter into Slither in the cartoon version?

They left us in a MAJOR cliffhanger at the end. Won't spoil it, other than for now most people would think the true explanation would be something much simpler that happens in real life often.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Just read number 7.

What is the purpose of the Superhero Turtles? And why would they turn Splinter into Slither in the cartoon version?

They left us in a MAJOR cliffhanger at the end. Won't spoil it, other than for now most people would think the true explanation would be something much simpler that happens in real life often.

I have no idea why they threw the Superhero Turtles in there.

Yeah, that was quite a cliffhanger. But in the mean time I'm going to do a search and see what kind of other comics they have on this thing.:)

[The Shelf]

Well, I finally got around to creating a Wowio account and getting the v.4 comics. I already have the print copies of them, but it's nice to have them in digital form as well. I just have to say that I am quite impressed with the scan quality on these things. Granted, I've only skimmed through a couple issues, but everything looked crystal clear and in perfect condition. The pages look like they were actually completely flat when scanned which is not as easy to do as you might think. I only bring this up because I bought the ~500 issue Amazing Spider-man dvd that has every issue in pdf format, but the quality of some of those comics is rather poor. And sometimes the scans aren't flat, so the pages look slightly arched. Not so with these Wowio v.4 comics. I just had to share that with everyone.

So... with that said, does anyone have any recommendations on good comics or books to download from Wowio? I've added ARBBH to my queue, but I haven't heard of most of the other comics on Wowio. I'm just curious if there are any true gems to be found, and they don't have to be just comics. Anything you find on Wowio that is really good is fair game. All I ask is that if you recommend a series, please tell us something about it as I'd rather not waste time on a series I know I wouldn't like since Wowio only lets us download 3 items a day. Thanks, dudes!

EDIT:
I have no idea why they threw the Superhero Turtles in there.
I think the only reason they were thrown in there was because someone at Mirage (Peter? Kevin?) had come up with superhero turtle designs years back and Peter wanted to use them for something. All in all, I thought it was a fun tangent.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

There's some old horror comics from the fifties on there. Those can be kind of interesting.

[Raph's Girl]

I think the only reason they were thrown in there was because someone at Mirage (Peter? Kevin?) had come up with superhero turtle designs years back and Peter wanted to use them for something. All in all, I thought it was a fun tangent.

Sure as heck wouldn't have been Kevin. He left Mirage back in 99 to focus on Heavy Metal comics. He and Peter don't get along one bit. It's a bit sad really.

Anyways....other than TMNT and ARBBH I've mostly been downloading parody books. The Stupidman books are really funny as is the Sewage Dragoon (parody of Savage Dragon). As for non parody books get The Last Warring Angel series, brand new this year. There's also a good graphic novel on Geronimo. In the way of non comics I've only downloaded a medical journal on Thyroid Disorders. I've got a Da Vinci book in my queue tho. I might get those books on magic that they recently added...

I've also discovered a way to DL 6 books a day but it only really works if your on the west coast. Wowio appears to be on Mountain Time and they don't take into account the other time zones. So for me I can DL comics in the afternoon and in the evenings after 10pm :lol:

[malpractice]

Anyone looking for anything else to read on Wowio, I highly suggest Alan Moore's Supreme run (with TMNT alumni Rick Veitch). It's a great read.

[The Shelf]

Sure as heck wouldn't have been Kevin. He left Mirage back in 99 to focus on Heavy Metal comics. He and Peter don't get along one bit. It's a bit sad really.

I was under the impression that the original super-turtle sketches had been done a long time ago but were never used, so it could have been Kevin who drew the original sketches (which is what I was referring to). But I think it was probably Peter just because it seems more in line with his style and interests.

Thanks for all the Wowio suggestions! I'll probably avoid the Savage Dragon parody, as I was never too interested in him, but all the other suggestions sound pretty good. If I find anything else I like, I'll be sure to post it here too. Keep the suggestions coming, though, if anyone else has any more.

[Raph's Girl]

Issues 8 - 14 of Vol 4 are now available for download on Wowio! Enjoy! :D

[Kendamu]

I've been readng Wannabes. Funny stuff.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Issues 8 - 14 of Vol 4 are now available for download on Wowio! Enjoy! :D

Cool. I was almost about to buy some volume 4 issues, now I can read them before I decide whether or not to add them to my collection.

I've enjoyed the first seven, looking forward to getting to the part where everyone started hating the series. :)

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

I never started hating it.

[Scandia]

I'm up to number 11.

I do not like the fact that the Utroms ran into such a creature.

And Leo and Donnie seem MUCH more violent than in their other incarnations.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

I'm up to number 11.

I do not like the fact that the Utroms ran into such a creature.

And Leo and Donnie seem MUCH more violent than in their other incarnations.

Are you talking about thedinosaur things?

I wish I had been reading this when it first came out. I never picked it up because at that time I only knew about the Ninja Turtles cartoon. I still haven't read City at War so there may be some things I'm not familiar with, but I really liked that funeral issue. Even if Splinter isn't as mainstream as Superman, as someone who grew up on TMNT as a kid I'd put Splinter dying as up there with Supes.

[Kendamu]

I never started hating it.
Me neither, but it's definitely not my favorite read when it comes to TMNT.

[Scandia]

The part about how the Turtles say how much they miss Splinter totally broke my heart. IMHO they got rid of him too early.

April's mystery has me on the edge of my seat.

Otherwise, I am not so sure about the direction it has taken. Could be worse- but could be better. I would have kept Splinter alive AND with the Turtles. Most of the storylines would have worked with him around.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

I just read a couple of more issues.

That's Gameraph? After the vampires bit him? Still beats the heck out of Image TMNT in my opinion.

[Raph's Girl]

Even if Splinter isn't as mainstream as Superman, as someone who grew up on TMNT as a kid I'd put Splinter dying as up there with Supes.

Splinter's technically not exactly dead tho. His body is dead but his spirit ascended and he became the new Rat King and a member of The Pantheon (a group of animal gods). My avatar is the Bat King.. He's since helped Raphael overcome his Gamera-rage and has appeared to in Michelangelo's nightmares and for some reason appeared to April while she was in Alaska.

[Coola Yagami]

He's still watching over his pupils... so sweet...

I always thought that Eastman and Laird got along just fine and went their seperate ways on good terms. I mean, they weren't really doing anything with the Turtles at the time, who can blame Eastman for doing his own thing?

BTW weren't the Super-TMNT costumes the same ones used in the Archie comics?

[VaughnMichael]

He's still watching over his pupils... so sweet...

I always thought that Eastman and Laird got along just fine and went their seperate ways on good terms. I mean, they weren't really doing anything with the Turtles at the time, who can blame Eastman for doing his own thing?

BTW weren't the Super-TMNT costumes the same ones used in the Archie comics?
They did not leave on good terms Kecin Eastman has made it pretty clear that Peter either wants it his way or the highway.
And no the outfits the tmnt have on in the wrestling issues of archie are based on early designs of the turtles outfits.

[Coola Yagami]

Geez... considering that Eastman also made the TMNT, Peter shouldn't have had so much control. It's like he's saying only HE has full control of em...

Maybe he got jealous cause he always got second billing... after all.. it IS always EASTMAN and Laird's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles...

[Roseangelo]

Geez... considering that Eastman also made the TMNT, Peter shouldn't have had so much control. It's like he's saying only HE has full control of em...

Peter does have full control. He bought Kevin's half of the TMNT in 2000. Although one would hope that wouldn't mean being a jerk about things, but apparently not.

[Andrew NDB]

Peter does have full control. He bought Kevin's half of the TMNT in 2000.

Though evidently Peter does own all creative rights, from that last Kevin Eastman interview a while back we do know he does retain some degree of rights and royalties. In fact, he seemed to be downright insulted at the implication that he "sold out" all his rights to Laird, when that wasn't the case. I believe he dropped some F bombs to that end.

[Punix]

can somewhone create a Wowio acount for me?

pretty please :D

[Roseangelo]

can somewhone create a Wowio acount for me?

pretty please :D

PM me your real name, birthdate, email address, and (just because I'm curious) why you can't create one for yourself.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Splinter's technically not exactly dead tho. His body is dead but his spirit ascended and he became the new Rat King and a member of The Pantheon (a group of animal gods). My avatar is the Bat King.. He's since helped Raphael overcome his Gamera-rage and has appeared to in Michelangelo's nightmares and for some reason appeared to April while she was in Alaska.

So he's like Obi-Wan now?

[Coola Yagami]

PM me your real name, birthdate, email address, and (just because I'm curious) why you can't create one for yourself.

Probably cause he's not in the US...

[Buffy]

So he's like Obi-Wan now?

Don't forget Anakin and Yoda :P

[Andrew NDB]

We don't know for sure if Splinter accepted the Rat King's offer at the moment of his death. We only know he had the opportunity once more.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Don't forget Anakin and Yoda :P

So in the TMNT's case, Anakin would end up being...Oraku Saki who would be like "you were right turtles, being a psychopath villain wasn't cool. Tell your sister...you were right."

"We don't have a sister, dude."

"April's close enough...right? Tell April, you were right."

Now who would Yoda be?

I already read the issue summary for this Tales issue, even though I haven't read it, spoilering in case someone here hasn't: would Yoda be Klunk?

[turkishproverb]

Now who would Yoda be?[/SPOILER]

Pick an ultrom, any ultrom!

[Nick Kell]

When do more issues go up on WOWIO? So many cliffhangers!

[Raph's Girl]

When do more issues go up on WOWIO? So many cliffhangers!

The schedule for the rest of the issues are:

March (no idea when): Issues 15 - 21
April: Issues 22 - 28
May: Issue 29!

[Nick Kell]

When did the issues go up in the past months? Beginning? Mid? Late?

I'm hoping for the former.

Since I'm lame, can anyone point me in the direction of spoilers?

Do you think they might add volumes 1-3 to WOWIO?

I'm surprised to see TMNT not in the top comics on WOWIO, although I thought I saw them near the bottom of the top comics list earlier in the week.

[VaughnMichael]

Pick an ultrom, any ultrom!
What's an Ultrom?

[hawkangel]

I printed out all the v.4 issues so far.
I love them all.
I'm going to make a book of them, but I was wondering before I do this if there are any plans of Mirage to make a TPB of v.4?

[TristanHuwJones]

There hasn't been any sort of official announcement as yet, but I think it's going to happen soon. With Volume 4 returning hopefully in May and with it reportedly being the conclusive chapter(s?) to the volume, it could be collected for the 25th Anniversary. But this is just me thinking out loud, nothing's been officially called yet.

[Roseangelo]

I'd rather have a City at War trade...

[Kendamu]

I'd rather have a City at War trade...
Agreed. No. Double-agreed.

[The Shelf]

What's an Ultrom?

It's an ultra Utrom. It's like an Utrom with superpowers. Like Krang, y'know? ;)

[Kendamu]

It's an ultra Utrom. It's like an Utrom with superpowers. Like Krang, y'know? ;)
I was more imagining an Utrom in an android suit outfitted to look like Ultraman.

[VaughnMichael]

or it's just my good old Pet Peve, good boy sit, *pets*

[Raph's Girl]

When did the issues go up in the past months? Beginning? Mid? Late?

Do you think they might add volumes 1-3 to WOWIO?


They've generally been released in the middle of the month. Volume 1 is currently available for viewing on ninjaturtles.com I am not sure if they'd release volumes 1 and 2 on Wowio....perhaps they will. Vol 3 was done by Image and is not canon. Only Mirage stuff is canon.

[Aztec General]

Mirage should put Tales Vol. 2 up on Wowio as well.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

What's an Ultrom?

Guess he just let out a little spoiler...but rumor is that they are the Ultimate Universe version of an utrom. That's what came to mind when I saw that.:lol:

As far as trades people would like, I'd like to see the Archie comics put into trades, especially the Future Shark thing. I remember liking that one. Mainly because as far as volume 1 goes, I've gotten impatient and have decided that I'll just try to find the single issues, but I haven't started looking for any Archie yet.

[Scandia]

I'd like to see a Volume 2 trade. Issues of Volume 2 are rare.

[Roseangelo]

I'd like to see a Volume 2 trade. Issues of Volume 2 are rare.

Uhh... Mirage has every single Vol. 2 comic available for sale on their site.

[Kendamu]

I've never gotten to read Volume 2. That's an awesome idea.

I do know that Vol. 1 Collected Book 1 is going back into print next year, but I haven't heard of anything else prior to Volume 4 and Tales Vol. 2 that has yet to come out.

[Roseangelo]

I've never gotten to read Volume 2. That's an awesome idea.

I do know that Vol. 1 Collected Book 1 is going back into print next year...

Not quite. What Mirage is printing is not a true representation of the original comic books as they will all be retoned/relettered/re-everythinged. Especially #8, which is being completely replaced by a new story.

If you want the original comics, hunt for the original collected book or grab the First graphic novels on the cheap.

[VaughnMichael]

Not quite. What Mirage is printing is not a true representation of the original comic books as they will all be retoned/relettered/re-everythinged. Especially #8, which is being completely replaced by a new story.

If you want the original comics, hunt for the original collected book or grab the First graphic novels on the cheap.
Re-tarded also comes to mind in those lists of Re's ya got there.:lol:

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Not quite. What Mirage is printing is not a true representation of the original comic books as they will all be retoned/relettered/re-everythinged. Especially #8, which is being completely replaced by a new story.

If you want the original comics, hunt for the original collected book or grab the First graphic novels on the cheap.

Every last issue? Why? Is it that rumor that there is really that much bad blood between Laird and Eastman?

I still think I'm enough of a fanboy to get an edited Book One. Partially because I don't have the Raph, Don, or Mike issues at all, and I already have the First graphic novels and a few of those issues.

[Kendamu]

Good thing I just got Collected Book 1 off of eBay, then.

[Roseangelo]

Every last issue? Why? Is it that rumor that there is really that much bad blood between Laird and Eastman?

Every issue that Eastman and Laird worked on. I don't think he's allowed to change the art of the other artists, but who knows... I would personally argue that he shouldn't be allowed to change the work of something he only did 50% of unless the person who did the other 50% gave permission.

I don't know what Peter's motives for do this are exactly, but I think it's possible that he honestly thinks that what he's doing is the "right" thing, because it's "fixing" all of the errors and inconsistencies in the old books. And he obviously doesn't like to use tones anymore, as evidenced in the current books.

I really hope he'll come around some day...

[Raph's Girl]

Just a heads up that Vol 4 issues 15 - 21 are now on Wowio!

This time there wasn't an announcement beforehand by Dan Berger! But I check Wowio alot for new books and BAM there they were! Enjoy!

[Raph's Girl]

A heads up that issues 22 - 28 are now on Wowio!! So much for em not appearing till April!! :o I was a bit shocked to see em on there so soon

Maybe this means issue 29 will be out sooner too? :D

[OA]

Maybe this means issue 29 will be out sooner too? :D

I dunno if I would take it that far... but its good to see things actually plugging along

[Raph's Girl]

Dan Berger says:

We hope to have an announcement regarding the release date for TMNT #29 (the first new issue in almost two years) in the next two weeks!

Squeee!!!!!! :o

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

'Bout friggin' time...

[Coola Yagami]

so exactly what are the differences fixed in the Laird and Eastman issues? What inconsistencies were changed or what?

[Roseangelo]

so exactly what are the differences fixed in the Laird and Eastman issues? What inconsistencies were changed or what?

This has nothing to do with Volume 4, only Volume 1. You can see the differences between Vol. 1 #1 here (http://www.geocities.com/roseangelo/history).

[soccerstud652]

Any other comics on WOWIO a TMNT fan should read?

[Raph's Girl]

The old thread is gone. So a new thread!

Wowio.com was down for almost 2 months while they updated their system. Now people around the world can get the books available there. So for all you foreign readers you can now download for free TMNT vol 4 issues 1 - 29. Issue 30 will no doubt be up shortly.

[Harukuro]

Thanks for the heads up Raph's Girl. 8) (goes off to read comics)

[Tinuvielsdreams]

Yeah I love wowio, I have all the available TMNT downloads.
I wish you could do more then 3 a day but I can't complain b/c it saves me some $$$

[soccerstud652]

Does anyone have the high quality download pdf of TMNT Vol 4 #30 that was available on WOWIO??

[Sun Baked Records]

Wowio doesn't have any of this stuff anymore...lol, I'm 2 years late.

[Powder]

Yeah well you wouldn't be if soccersucker hadn't of necrobumped this thread from three years ago.

[Sun Baked Records]

So very, very true

[azrael]

Yeah well you wouldn't be if soccersucker hadn't of necrobumped this thread from three years ago.

He only did what you told him.... Search for threads.

[soccerstud652]

Yeah well you wouldn't be if soccersucker hadn't of necrobumped this thread from three years ago.

Cut the trolling and grow up. You sound like a jealous five year old.

I understand wowio doesn't have these anymore. I am wondering if anyone has the high quality download of 30. I lost it when my hdd died a while back.

[Powder]

Trolling maybe a teeny tiny incy wincy bit, but jealous makes no sense hombre! It's all love, though.

[soccerstud652]

Trolling maybe a teeny tiny incy wincy bit, but jealous makes no sense hombre! It's all love, though.

Fair enough, all good.

[sorrenmj]

I sure wish these were still available. I'd love to be able to read volume 4 on my iPad, sigh!