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Machias Banshee
03-31-2008, 10:13 PM
I honestly did not know if this was posted anywhere on here, and the way some are on here, I fully expect a nasty verbal assault on this anyways.. :P

I honestly cannot believe that they could beat this dead horse any further. One of the final Direct-to-Video Releases to come from Disney (thanks to people in high places), it is not only the THIRD Movie... but it is a PRE-Quel!

Drama, violence, and the ever overdone Musical number!

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Honestly, on one hand I'm intrigued to hear about Ariel's Mother. On the other -- My god, this is going too far with the post-pre-quadrels. Hans Christian Andersen NEVER saw this coming, and Poor Walt must be tired from spinning in his grave... :dead:

I know there's some animators and people who are more skilled and educated about the realms of animation and the film industry around here, especially concerning Disney. I'd just Love to hear what you folks think about this... :ohwell:

gobo
04-01-2008, 12:16 AM
I actually saw this trailer on my DVD of Enchanted for the first time just last night when my neice insisted on watching it again, for the second time that weekend. (I was satisfied thinking of this movie as your typical parody except without quite so much perversion, but it's already starting to wear thin... :() While I wasn't particularly horrified or even disturbed by this trailer, I have to admit that I find Disney's insistence on making all their animated films into trilogies no matter how old they are quite sad and sometimes infuriating. But, it's no skin off my nose. I pretty much hate Disney anyway. ^_^

Raph's Girl
04-01-2008, 01:36 AM
This film has been trying to get off the ground for 2 years. Im actually glad it's finally coming out. Finally we'll find out what happened to Ariel's mom! Will it be as sad as the script PAD wrote that Disney rejected for the comics?? I doubt it....but I loved PAD's script for the death of Ariel's mom....it was sad and poinient (sp?).

This is set a year before the events in the first film. Which really makes no sense since the animated series was set before the first film and her mother was never shown! Interesting that her name is Athena since some myths have Triton as her father instead of Zeus.

And after watching the trailer....So Athena was killed by pirates when Ariel was a baby....this somehow caused a ban on music in Atlantis??? Hmm....fascinating. Damn Ariel looks like her mom! And Marina = Ursula.

Basically this movie is more or less Ursula's origin story....can't wait to see this in August!

Ra
04-01-2008, 01:52 AM
Heh, I can't believe I'm saying this, but it doesn't look half bad. I wouldn't mind sitting down and watching it if I have nothing better to do. What ruins it for me is that it's a prequel. Direct-to-Video prequel. Which pretty much takes half the fun out of it. Ugh...come on Disney! Release some new material for a change!

Fugitoid Jones
04-01-2008, 03:28 AM
Yeah, it's dissapointing to see how badly Disney has run out of original thought. When you can't come up with a new idea for an animated film, just pound out some useless sequels! Oh well, the kiddies like 'em, I suppose. It's just I'd feel better if they were watching original, quality entertainment rather than unimaginative drivel.

ThirdMarioBro
04-01-2008, 04:02 AM
On one hand, I'll probably end up watching it because I want to see what happens to Ariel's Mom. Why were they catching Mermaid's in nets? Dinner perhaps? Disgusting. One one hand, I want to see Ursula's origin story. On the other hand, the music rapes my ears, and the idea of another direct-to-video Disney movie makes me want to vomit. Sure, this is the last one, but why screw with The Little Mermaid--the godfather of the animation renaissance?

I'll probably wind up buying it anyway just to support hand-drawn animation. The medium is almost dead.

And Jim Cummings does not make a good Triton. Why the hell didn't they get Kenneth Mars? Too busy with Hanna Montana? Why break tradition? He's been in every other production.

Raph's Girl
04-01-2008, 04:22 AM
And Jim Cummings does not make a good Triton. Why the hell didn't they get Kenneth Mars? Too busy with Hanna Montana? Why break tradition? He's been in every other production.

I agree... Kenneth Mars is the ONLY person who can voice Triton. It's just weird hearing Tigger's voice come out of everyone's fave son of Poseidon (well my fave offspring of Poseidon is Pegasus but still....)

Scandia
04-01-2008, 08:05 AM
Well I actually want to watch it. The Little Mermaid is one of my favorite Disney movies. Ariel rocks.

BubblyShell22
04-01-2008, 08:30 AM
I'm actually interested in this prequel because a lot of unexplained things will get explained. Kenneth Mars works on Hannah Montana? What does he do? I hate it when voices are changed. Keep the originals if the original actors are living. That's the best way to go.

Drtooth
04-01-2008, 09:02 AM
Everyone? CALM DOWN!!!!! This will be the last one they do. Unless they have an idea that will dazzle John Lassiter (who even had to come in and work on rewrites to Tinkerbelle), there won't be another sequal, midqual or prequal from here to the end of his reign as animation director.

This film has been trying to get off the ground for 2 years. Im actually glad it's finally coming out. Finally we'll find out what happened to Ariel's mom! Will it be as sad as the script PAD wrote that Disney rejected for the comics?? I doubt it....but I loved PAD's script for the death of Ariel's mom....it was sad and poinient (sp?).


The fact that they were still working on it was the only reason why they didn't pull the plug on this one. But other than the 2 they were working on before Disney's buyout of Pixar, no other idea will go into production. Unless of course, they get a great idea, and (as I said earlier) they really wow Lassiter. But since they won't, NO MORE DTV CHEAPQUALS!!!! YAAHOOOO!!!

DrSpengler
04-01-2008, 09:29 AM
(well my fave offspring of Poseidon is Pegasus but still....)

Didn't Pegasus sprout out of Medusa's neck after she got decapitated? I thought that was his origin?

Sewer Bull
04-01-2008, 09:55 AM
Disney's view on the Greek mythology has always been slightly deranged.

Mandi-chan
04-01-2008, 10:40 AM
I'm torn with this one.

Some parts of it look good (Ariel's mom story, possible Ursula story...since, like others here, I feel that Marina will end up being Ursula.) But a lot of what I saw in that trailer bored the heck out of me.

Will it be as bad as The Little Mermaid 2 was? I hope not.

Raph's Girl
04-01-2008, 03:48 PM
Didn't Pegasus sprout out of Medusa's neck after she got decapitated? I thought that was his origin?

Pegasus was the offspring of Poseidon and Medusa. Medusa was preggers with Pegasus when her head was cut off and Pegasus strangly popped out from Medusas neck or sprang from her blood (which mingled with the sea foam) Pegasus also has a twin brother named Chrysoar (who was born human)

All horses are descended from Poseidon for some strange reason.

Machias Banshee
04-01-2008, 08:37 PM
Looking back at the older movies, Disney was pretty good about keeping to the storylines of well known tales, i.e. Snow white, sleeping beauty..

I have always loved mythology, greek, roman, Egyptian, all of it. When I saw what they did with the Little Mermaid story and THEN Hercules....

HERCULES! The whole backstory, Hera (Not his mother), Pegasus, everything... I just about died inside. Hercules (depending on which version you look at) went through trials from hell, had Megara as his First wife (slayed her and the kids) and Deianeira as his second, and ended up poisoned to death. No happy fat lil satyr re-enacting Rocky films... More (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heracles)

And once again, I'm getting off topic... :oops:

The backstory of Ariel's mother intrigues me. I just hope they can do it tastefully, yet not sugarcoat the whole thing. I mean, the original story of little mermaid has her sisters visiting the land once a year, and when she pleads to her grandmother (Not quite ursula) to let her be human, she's mute, BUT she's also under excruciating pain from walking (like on knives), and if she doesn't succeed, she turns to sea foam. Sebastian definitely was NOT around, nor was Flounder to sing and pee himself if a snail swam by...

Maybe I'm just too sensitive...? ;)

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My one big hope with the Disney changes is that they put an end to this story plotline of overtalkative characters, dirty jokes and the usual bad ending music video of some old 70s or 80s song... :ohwell:


...PAD script? What exactly is this, and can you find it online?

Peanut
04-01-2008, 09:06 PM
Yeah, I would have loved to see the Disney movie based off of the "true" story of Hercules. That would have went over really well. :roll:

Jester
04-01-2008, 09:12 PM
I have to ask what the big difference between the Disney and HCA Mermaid?

*edit: I see it, but it really that far removed from the movie? I mean how many books are truly adapted to movies? *he says after reading the novel "I am Legend"

Machias Banshee
04-01-2008, 09:21 PM
Of course I wouldn't want to see the true story of Hercules... It'd give kids nightmares. But can you imagine those same kids trying to explain mythology in Literature class? It'd be like a Jerry Springer Special.. :embarass: :lol:

The difference in story-telling, between Snow White and how they do movies today is really kinda surprising. It's like we need to protect kids from stories now... :ohwell:

Raph's Girl
04-01-2008, 09:27 PM
The Hans Christian Anderson version of The Little Mermaid:

1: Her name was Serena
2: She DIES cuz the prince falls for somebody else
3: She becomes a wind goddess
4: After a series of trials she eventually gains a soul (cuz uh merfolk are souless monsters) and goes to heaven.... all cuz she didn't kill the prince like her sisters wanted her to
5: Oh and her sisters are now bald cuz they exchanged their hair for a knife to kill the prince. :lol:

Jester
04-01-2008, 09:32 PM
Dang.....and I thought "I am Legend" was off....

DrSpengler
04-01-2008, 09:35 PM
Pegasus was the offspring of Poseidon and Medusa. Medusa was preggers with Pegasus when her head was cut off and Pegasus strangly popped out from Medusas neck or sprang from her blood (which mingled with the sea foam) Pegasus also has a twin brother named Chrysoar (who was born human)

All horses are descended from Poseidon for some strange reason.

Damn, now that's an element to the myth I *didn't* know.

So Poseidon plowed Medusa? Good heavens, man, have some standards!

Jo Dawn
04-01-2008, 09:52 PM
The difference in story-telling, between Snow White and how they do movies today is really kinda surprising. It's like we need to protect kids from stories now... :ohwell:

I hear ya. They kiddify kids stuff. Before I was born my grandparents bought me a huge collection of the ORIGINAL stories of all these. Great stuff. I'm glad I own them. And now I want to go read them.

Peanut
04-01-2008, 11:06 PM
Damn, now that's an element to the myth I *didn't* know.

So Poseidon plowed Medusa? Good heavens, man, have some standards!

Greek Mythology is really nothing but a giant orgy, usually bookended by a ridiculous birth or brutal killings.

Raph's Girl
04-01-2008, 11:44 PM
So Poseidon plowed Medusa? Good heavens, man, have some standards!

Keep in mind that Medusa and her sisters (Stheno and Euryale) were once beautiful. Medusa was raped by Poseidon in Athena's temple and as punishment Athena cursed her with snakes for hair. Medusa was also the only one of her sisters who was mortal.

Oh and Medusa was Poseidon's cousin. Her parents were the Phorcys and Ceto, a brother and sister who were offspring of Gaia and Pontus (who in turn was a son of Gaia).

As I always say Incest is the best when it's family.

Tinuvielsdreams
04-02-2008, 08:51 AM
I am not huge on the Disney sequels, there are a handful I have liked...One of which was the Peter Pan sequel probably because it went to theaters and the animation and visuals were great.

This is pretty much where all the 2D animators (from Disney) have left to go, this and toon Disney TV series.

This prequel looks interesting, a back story of one of Disney's most popular films would be nice. Now why didn't they do that instead of the other sequel about her future daughter? I could have done without that.

As for the HCA little Mermaid I remember the other animated mermaid movie from when I was a kid where she did die at the end. Is that movie a direct story adaption? Does anyone else remember it?

Drtooth
04-02-2008, 09:01 AM
Yeah, I would have loved to see the Disney movie based off of the "true" story of Hercules. That would have went over really well. :roll:


Disney doesn't do acurate. Never has. They changed absolutely everything in every film. I remember hearing the author of 101 Dalmations wasn't too happy.

I'd kill for another animation studio to do that Hercules, though. something closer to the most common version of the myth.

DrSpengler
04-02-2008, 09:55 AM
Disney doesn't do acurate. Never has. They changed absolutely everything in every film.

With the exception of The Legend of Sleepy Hollow. They actually retained the ending in which Ichabod "diasppears", the Headless Horseman wins and Brahm Bones gets the girl. Very unDisney-like and a reason why its my favorite Disney flick.

Raph's Girl
04-02-2008, 04:06 PM
The Hercules film pissed me off. Gods that was lame. Hera as Hercules mom?! WTF?! Seriously Disney what the frak where you thinking?!

Cinderella could not have been done accuratly since the original tale is from Egypt. Most of the Asian versions of the tale involve magical fish (Cinderella becomes a nun in the Japanese version).

In the Brother's Grimm version tho...there's no fairy god mother....it's a magical tree that grows on Cinderella's mother's grave. And the step-sisters become blind when pigeons peck their eyes out and they became blind beggars.

Now Aladdin was kinda done right. Except that in the original tale he was Chinese, his mother was alive, and Jaffar had a wicked brother.

Sleeping Beauty is well... close....except her mother dies of a broken heart thinking a prince will never come to wake up her daughter. *lol*

Snow White: Disney...um.. you forgot the sister.... I like the "Fables" take on the tale. Snow White was raped by the 7 dwarves and when she married the prince (who later cheated on her with Rose Red) he taught her how to use a sword and Snow White killed the dwarves in revenge.

Jester
04-02-2008, 04:29 PM
I am not huge on the Disney sequels, there are a handful I have liked...One of which was the Peter Pan sequel probably because it went to theaters and the animation and visuals were great.

Don't forget Rescuers Down Under. It is by far the best Disney sequal, and it also was theatrical.

Revan
04-02-2008, 04:30 PM
The Lion King 2 did quite well also

Jester
04-02-2008, 04:31 PM
Release.....me.....

Cure
04-02-2008, 04:36 PM
Don't forget Rescuers Down Under, by far the best Disney sequal. It was also theatrical.

Uh...there's also this movie called Toy Story 2. Maybe you've heard of it.

Dr. Doom
04-02-2008, 04:38 PM
Amen to that. I only saw it like once, and I really don't remember much of anything that happened in it, but I remember it was good times.

Jester
04-02-2008, 04:43 PM
Uh...there's also this movie called Toy Story 2. Maybe you've heard of it.
Ok, that's true, but I was thinking just traditional Disney animation and not Disney/Pixar (which if I remember right, they've all been pretty good. Has a Pixar film flopped?)

Dr. Doom
04-02-2008, 04:54 PM
I dunno about "flopped", but I'm sure more than one has failed to meet expectations (Ratatouille was one of them, I think)

Revan
04-02-2008, 04:57 PM
Ratatouille won an Oscar for best animated film

Dr. Doom
04-02-2008, 04:57 PM
Yes, I'm aware.

I seem to recall it not making as much money as was expected of it.

Cure
04-02-2008, 04:58 PM
I dunno about "flopped", but I'm sure more than one has failed to meet expectations (Ratatouille was one of them, I think)

Sheesh. It got over $200 million (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ratatouille/#synopsis) in the box office.

gobo
04-02-2008, 04:59 PM
That doesn't necessarily mean it met expectations. Maybe they 'expected' it to win the presidency or something...

Dr. Doom
04-02-2008, 04:59 PM
Yeah, I dunno, it's weird like that. I wasn't certain, but I seemed to recall something about Ratatouille not doing as well as they wanted it to.

Scandia
04-02-2008, 07:07 PM
I liked Ratatouille a lot. But then, I have pet mice.

On the other hand, a friend of mine did not like it. She said that the jokes flew over her 7 year old niece's head. And that it was too long for little kids.

Cure
04-02-2008, 07:27 PM
I liked Ratatouille a lot. But then, I have pet mice.

On the other hand, a friend of mine did not like it. She said that the jokes flew over her 7 year old niece's head. And that it was too long for little kids.

So wait, she didn't like it cuz KIDS didn't like it? Wow, so much for having some individuality.

Dr. Doom
04-02-2008, 07:32 PM
Yeah, I sorta had the same thought. I guess the way you look at things changes when you have kids, though.

Tinuvielsdreams
04-02-2008, 07:42 PM
Uh...there's also this movie called Toy Story 2. Maybe you've heard of it.

I did forget Rescuers down under! I guess I was thinking more along the line of recent Disney sequels since the "Fall" of 2D...I am genuinely hoping this Little Mermaid prequel is good.

I was also forgetting about Lilo and Stitch, there have been sequels and a tv show all of which I relly enjoyed, plus there is some originality to it

Dr. Doom
04-02-2008, 07:45 PM
Wasn't Lion King 1/2 in theatres?

Cure
04-02-2008, 07:47 PM
Wasn't Lion King 1/2 in theatres?

No, man! Do I need to learn you some movie info?

Dr. Doom
04-02-2008, 07:50 PM
I don't remember!

Tinuvielsdreams
04-02-2008, 07:52 PM
I think it went straight to DVD because it was basically the lion king told from the POV of Timon and Pumba...It got two discs though

Tinuvielsdreams
04-02-2008, 07:53 PM
No, man! Do I need to learn you some movie info?

The way Disney pumps them out who can keep track sometimes...lol

Dr. Doom
04-02-2008, 07:54 PM
Yeah, seriously.

DrSpengler
04-02-2008, 08:23 PM
There are only 3 sequels included in the Disney Animated Film canon and those are "The Three Cabballeros", "The Rescuers Down Under" and "Fantasia 2000".

All three of them are quite good, with "Fantasia 2000" being my favorite of the bunch.

Sage Ninja
04-04-2008, 02:23 AM
it sadden me deeply that tradional animation is dying out. It's so beautiful and on some level more realistic looking than CGI animation. The last really beautifully animated Disney film with realistic looking characters and lots of detail, in my oppinion was The Hunchback of Notra Dame back in 1996. After that with the animation seemed to take on a much simplistic less detailed (cartoony) approuch that i don't care for.

and with all these Disney sequals coming out why not do one that actually has another story to tell? Like Alice in Wonder land, they only animated one half of the Alice story. I would like to see a sequal that deals with the jabbawaki arc of the story. Maybe make it creepy or something. That could be a good legtimate sequal because it would be part of the actual Alice story instead of making something else up to milk off something done to death.

Or how about a a sequal to The Black Cauldron there is more books to the story than what was given in the Disney version (even though they basterdized it a bit) this Disney movie gets no credit or respect, and it was actually pretty good and dark for a Disney film.

DrSpengler
04-04-2008, 09:01 AM
Or how about a a sequal to The Black Cauldron there is more books to the story than what was given in the Disney version (even though they basterdized it a bit) this Disney movie gets no credit or respect, and it was actually pretty good and dark for a Disney film.

As much as I'd like that, as well, "The Black Cauldren" is unfortunately one of Disney's greatest shames. It was a critical and financial bomb and they completely buried its existance afterward for over a decade (when did it finally get a home video release? 2001?). Disappointing, too, since it was one of Disney's greaters risks, their first PG-rated animated film. If Disney had a lack of guts back then, they certainly don't have any more now (the ruthless editing of trivial things such as CIGARETTES from their classic films is proof of that).

Personally, I think Disney's sequel mania was nothing but wasted potential. They focused too much on films that already had sequels or TV shows or comic books and didn't really need *more* story to be told. Instead of making a "Little Mermaid 3" or a "Lion King 1/2" they could have focused on some of the other Disney flicks with less exposure. I always wanted a sequel to "Sword in the Stone".

...And they coud have put some ****ing effort into the movies to make sure they didn't suck.

Drtooth
04-04-2008, 09:06 AM
On the other hand, a friend of mine did not like it. She said that the jokes flew over her 7 year old niece's head. And that it was too long for little kids.


Pfft. Maybe if that Rat farted a hundred times, and stole quotes from other movies, that kid woulda liked it. After all, that's the secret to Dreamworks' success. Shrek 3 did much, much better than Rat did, and it was pretty lousy. But then again, I feel Rat had more sophisticated dialogue about cuisine that would fly over everyone's heads.

that said, I do like Hercules. Once you get past the obvious Disney making it a kid;'s movie and throwing out all the accuracies, it's pretty good. I thought the love story was unmotivated, though. Of course, I still wish the original version of the movie was produced. I forget how it went, but it was much darker a film. If I can recall what I read (and this was in an official Disney published book) it was about Hercules getting caught up in the Trojan war or something like that (some Greek battle, at least) and having to take sides. If I didn't lose the book, I'd quote it verbatim.

Now, for frustrating inaccuracies, I suggest looking at Pocahontas. It's one thing to retell a story or a legend, but they're retelling actual historical facts here.

Raph's Girl
04-04-2008, 01:56 PM
Now, for frustrating inaccuracies, I suggest looking at Pocahontas. It's one thing to retell a story or a legend, but they're retelling actual historical facts here.

Ugh... Pocahontas II pisses me off to no end!! It is SOO historically inaccurate it's rediclious! ARGH!!! Even her descendents were complaining about it. Now if you want a more accurate version then watch "The New World" or read the most excellent book "Pocahontas: True Princess"

Sage Ninja
04-06-2008, 11:55 PM
As much as I'd like that, as well, "The Black Cauldren" is unfortunately one of Disney's greatest shames. It was a critical and financial bomb and they completely buried its existance afterward for over a decade (when did it finally get a home video release? 2001?). Disappointing, too, since it was one of Disney's greaters risks, their first PG-rated animated film. If Disney had a lack of guts back then, they certainly don't have any more now (the ruthless editing of trivial things such as CIGARETTES from their classic films is proof of that).

that is a real shame about the "Black Cauldren" because I really liked that movie and thought it was great, also I really thought that the ending of the movie had a sort of open/cliff hanger to it. Like it was hinting at further adventures Taren and the trio where going to have and I really wanted to see that. I heard that this movie had some extra footage to it but was cut because they thought it was to violent, like Taren shown actually killingsome of the gaurds as well as scenes as of some people getting killed by the skeleton warriors, and a scene where the princess gets the bodice of her dress torn.

Personally, I think Disney's sequel mania was nothing but wasted potential. They focused too much on films that already had sequels or TV shows or comic books and didn't really need *more* story to be told. Instead of making a "Little Mermaid 3" or a "Lion King 1/2" they could have focused on some of the other Disney flicks with less exposure. I always wanted a sequel to "Sword in the Stone".

I would also like to see a sequal to the sword and the stone too. It was one of my favorite movies when I was little. I really did not like the second Little Mermaid movie with Ariel's daughter it was...weak. And the ending was pretty dumb as well. There was no need...no need what so ever for a Lion King 1/2 :dead: what a shameless and ridulous way to milk to death a master piece than to re-show the movie from Timons POV. UGH :sick::sick::sick:

Raph's Girl
08-26-2008, 01:24 PM
The Little Mermaid III is now out on DVD. Here's my review of it.

Well I have to say that this was a good movie. Not as awesome as Bambi II or Cinderella III but definatly up there.

The movie is narrated by Sebastian and starts aproximatly 12 years before the events in the original film.

It's a time of happiness in the Atlantica. The Merfolk spend time even on the surface. Tritan is happy in life with his wife, Queen Athena, at his side as well as their 7 daughters (Attina, Adela, Arista, Aquata, Andriana, Alana, and Ariel).

Untill one day when they're on the surface. Tritan gives his beloved queen a gift. A music box that plays their special song, Clear Blue Sky. Unfortunatly at the time a pirate ship appears and the Merfolk scatter leaving their musical instruments strewn about the rocks. The pirates seaze the opportunity and steal the instruments. Athena realizes the music box is about to be taken and reaches for it when the pirate ship gets too close to the rocks and crashes right into Athena, killing her.

Distraught over the loss of his wife, he throws the music box in the air where it lands somewhere in the ocean. He then bans all laughter and all music. Anybody caught even humming is sent to the dungeons.

Fast forward 10 years. Tritan's daughters are in their late teens - early 20's. Their ages are never really said altho Adela states at one point that she's 2 years older than Ariel.

They have a nanny of sorts in Marina Del Ray, who hates her job with a passion. She wants power, she wants Sebastian's job as Tritan's 2nd in command. With Marina Del Ray is a um...Well I never really did figure out WHAT he is. Benjamin is I guess a Manitee. She also has several evil electric eels. We learn thru her song number that she's bald (she wears wigs that match with whatever clothes she has on). Altho her past is not known nore is it dealt with.

Marina plots to get rid of Sebastian in some way and finds a way when she discovers one night that the girls are not in their beds. She follows them to find they have been spending time in an undground music club called The Catfish Lounge.

Ariel discovers this shortly after meeting Flounder for the first time while she was doing her chores (yes...they're princesses with chores!!). Altho her job was a bit weird. Scraping barnacles??? WTF?! Ariel follows Flounder to the club (where he's a busboy or something.). There she discovers that Sebastian is the lead singer of a band that consists of a Turtle, Octopus, Man Ray, and a small fish (not sure what he was). The Octopus and small fish (Ink Spot and Swifty) are voiced by Rob Paulsen while Kevin Michael Richardson voices Cheeks (Turtle), and Ray Ray the Man Ray.

After singing a song about remembering how life was like when her mom was alive she is, reluctantly, made a member of the club. The next night her sisters join as well and for at least a week enjoy sneaking out at night to party. That is untill Marina finds the club and quickly informs Triton. The band and Flounder are promptly arrested and placed in the dungeons. Tritan destroys the club and grounds his daughters. Altho innocent Ariel complains they did nothing wrong and argues with Triton (who is still too heartbroken to see he's hurting his own children).

That night Triton is seen going to a dead area by the palace and crying. Ariel can't stand it anymore and decides to run away. She also breaks the band out of prison, but only after Sebastian realizes where they should go.

In the morning they find out Ariel and the band are gone. Tritan goes himself to find her, while Marina sends her electric eels out to kill Ariel and Sebastian.

In the meantime the band (after walking all night and trying to ignore Flounder, who is EXTREMELY annoying.) go to this seemingly dead valley. The others are confused as to why they are there but Sebastian insists it's not what it seems. And indeed it's not for Ariel finds the long lost music box in an glass cavern. Sebastian then informs Ariel that her mother was not only Tritan's wife but also his best friend and that the music box was a wedding annaversary gift to Athena! Oi!!

As the gang goes back to Atlantica (much to the confusion of the band, who don't understand at all why they're going back. But Ariel believes the music box can change Tritan's views) they are attacked by Marina and her goons. And after an intense battle Ariel is knocked unconcious. Tritan is of course distraught and confused at his daughter's actions. But seeing the music box, which plays the song, Tritan begins to sing. This wakes Ariel up.

Emediatly Tritan changes the law that music will return to the kingdom and that Sebastian be made the court music writer. In the dead area by the palace, Triton places the music box and thru magic it transforms the area and brings it back to life (this is never explained how or why).

Meanwhile Marina, and for some reason Benjamin, are put in the dungeons. To me Benjamin is a reluctant player in all this. He reminds me a bit of BooBoo at times. "Tritans not gonna like that Marina..."

The movie could have been longer and we could have had more of a background for Marina. But alas this was more or less about the late Queen Athena.

There was no cameo by Erik, however the Seagull makes a brief cameo appearance during Marina's song. She immitates the scene in the 1st movie where Ariel sings on the surface and a wave splashes over her. Amuzingly for Marina when this happens the wave ruins her hair and a seagull flies by wondering WTF she's doing. *L*

Ariel's sister's aren't focused on much so we don't find much about em. Other than Adela being boy crazy (and 2 years older than Ariel) and Alana being a kluts. Attina is the oldest and the one reluctant at first to follow Ariel's every whim.

As for the music. There's maybe only 4 songs in the entire film. My fave being Athena's song.

Drtooth
08-26-2008, 05:37 PM
Hey...

At what point does King Triton send the Music Destroyer Robot?

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb174/drslumptooth/md.jpg

Raph's Girl
08-27-2008, 12:01 AM
Hey...

At what point does King Triton send the Music Destroyer Robot?

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb174/drslumptooth/md.jpg

There's no music destroyer robot. His swordfish guards patrol the city and catch anybody they think is making music.

Jester
08-27-2008, 12:06 AM
And Sebastian, the kings right hand...er...crab, can find a way to who?
Ohhh...Rob Paulsen. Now I'm torn. Watch a crappy Disney prequel...or miss a Rob Paulsen voice over character.

Machias Banshee
08-27-2008, 12:37 AM
*watching clips on YOutube*

There's ONE person who's got it online.. *coughBloomWinx91cough*

Pretty good.. I love seeing the 2-D animation again. The family interactions with the girls as juveniles/toddlers is really cute. Triton so looks like a Viking in his younger days. The whole story of Athena is very sad - leave it to Pirates to mess everything up. I can tell why Triton puts up with so much of Ariel's nonsense - She looks sooo much like her mom. Definitely Daddy's little girl..

The music's good - the singing scenes are good for the most part (love Sebastian when the girls first come to the club). Athena's song is quite nice, and I'm Really getting into Ariel's song "I Remember Music"... poor Sebastian's lucky he hasn't turned white from the stress.. :lol:

I love how Marina's over the top, but her assistant Benjamin doesn't seem to fit in. He seems out of place, whether it's coloring, or just how he's drawn. Not sure...

The sisters are a little ditzier than I imagine from the first movie. But they do sound like a bunch of teenage sisters.. And Triton's urge to blow things up goes to more than just statues apparently. :P

Still waiting for the last few segments to come up...


*Edit*

Okay, finally saw the last bits... This is definitely a sequel I could watch more than once.. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:



...yeah, this from the one who called it basically the downfall of western society. :P

Drtooth
08-27-2008, 08:52 AM
There's no music destroyer robot. His swordfish guards patrol the city and catch anybody they think is making music.

And the joke is totally lost. I would have got a picture with the Music Destroyer and Dr. Robotnik, but Robotnik completely covered the robot.