Hey, how are the ratings of the Lost Season so far?

[TerranigmaFreak]

I know the series's rating are actually doing better in FF after the movie came out, but what about now? I mean, if the rating are consistent, then at least we can rest assure that the new (and even newer) series won't be watered down much, if at all. While I don't dig the plot of the Lost Season or the fights, it does capture intense excitement better than any of the previous seasons. So, do we have any ratings numbers on the LS

[Scandia]

I wish I had cable and could boost them even more. But I will be buying the Region 1 DVD for sure- so at least I am helping my part with sales.

[Spitfire]

They don't count everyone who watches the show, you having cable would make no difference. Only certain households are counted and I believe those households know as I assume they select people who watch a lot of TV.

Wiki isn't the best source ever but this will give you a general idea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nielsen_Ratings

[VaughnMichael]

I'm sure it's just doing so great because the lost season is the best tmnt thing ever to happen and it's just so much better than FF and even the old toon and gosh even 2k3 and it's just so dark and amazing I can't even believe it myself.
I was told it's the highest rated tv show on tv ever!:o
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[TerranigmaFreak]

I'm sure it's just doing so great because the lost season is the best tmnt thing ever to happen and it's just so much better than FF and even the old toon and gosh even 2k3 and it's just so dark and amazing I can't even believe it myself.
I was told it's the highest rated tv show on tv ever!:o
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Well now, I wouldn't be that harsh. I mean, the LS isn't all it's cracked up to be, but it's still entertaining. Then there are elements so bad it's... bad. I'd still like to see how well it's faring in rating though.

[odupianist]

even though ive seen it on youtube already, if i'm up and around the tv, i turn it on and just leave it on as back ground noise

[VaughnMichael]

Well now, I wouldn't be that harsh. I mean, the LS isn't all it's cracked up to be, but it's still entertaining. Then there are elements so bad it's... bad. I'd still like to see how well it's faring in rating though.
heh it was just something I need to say ;)
I just find it funny how while FF was on the air and we the episode discussions about it we couldn't go one discussion that didn't just bash it simply for the fact that it was different than what we had before.
I love how those people where allowed to go off week after week about how much they hated it and for no reason most of the time other than the turtles could walk out in the day and they're happy for once.
But those of us who think the lost season is by far the lamest thing they've seen since god knows when aren't allowed to make a peep about it or they get the flamez.
And now that these same people have finally seen the lost season and most of them are like oh it really isn't that great and I'd of liked them to continue with FF one more season so I can get a Space Usagi episode. *face palms & shakes head*

[Revan]

heh it was just something I need to say ;)
I just find it funny how while FF was on the air and we the episode discussions about it we couldn't go one discussion that didn't just bash it simply for the fact that it was different than what we had before.
I love how those people where allowed to go off week after week about how much they hated it and for no reason most of the time other than the turtles could walk out in the day and they're happy for once.
But those of us who think the lost season is by far the lamest thing they've seen since god knows when aren't allowed to make a peep about it or they get the flamez.
And now that these same people have finally seen the lost season and most of them are like oh it really isn't that great and I'd of liked them to continue with FF one more season so I can get a Space Usagi episode. *face palms & shakes head*
It's called jumping on the bandwagon! :lol: Many people seem to be agreeing with you now though. Last laugh goes to... the season five haters

I'll still admit that I enjoyed season 5. IMO, it was a fun new direction that allowed the turtles to [almighty voice] SAVE THE WORLD [/almighty voice].

[VaughnMichael]

It's called jumping on the bandwagon! :lol: Many people seem to be agreeing with you now though. Last laugh goes to... the season five haters

I'll still admit that I enjoyed season 5. IMO, it was a fun new direction that allowed the turtles to [almighty voice] SAVE THE WORLD [/almighty voice].
I don't hate it it's just not the "OMGZ MOST AMAZING THING" everyone kept saying it was.
I'm just not a big fan of it because it seems rather desperate to me.
There's really only 1 tmnt thing I hate and it's not any of the cartoons.

[Revan]

haters was probably the wrong word. ( I do hate venus though;))

I think I am guilty. :ohwell: When I first saw season 5 (last year, wow has it really been that long?!) I was so excited. I was probably one of the people who was here talking about what I liked about it. But at least, I didn't flip flop my position. I still think season 5 is pretty cool

[Tinuvielsdreams]

I definitely was all awed by it the first time I saw it, I didn't start picking at it until now that I have seen it a few times... I don't have a lot of complaints only that it's a little far removed from the turtles I like a little better...Actually being turtles and not having to use magic to win a battle...I don't turn it off when it's on though...I want it to do well so I hope those ratings are holding

[Jelly Bean]

meh...I still didn't care for FF and my friends didn't care for it eighther. I'm not saying it was steaming pile of monkey sh*t like some people make it out to be but I really like serious/mature turtle stories. There where some things about FF that I did like though, I liked Cody and I wish they had involved him more than they did. They basically introduced a new character to the show and then...well I got the impression that they where afraid to use him or something because he kept mostly to the back ground in some episodes. Like the writers where afraid he was going to take some of the turtles thunder or something. :ohwell: But yeah, over all I thought FF was to flashy.

I am enjoying the fifth season, although I think it can just as flashy as FF but...I don't know, it has that same flavor that I like from the previous seasons that I like. :)

[ToTheNines]

But those of us who think the lost season is by far the lamest thing they've seen since god knows when aren't allowed to make a peep about it or they get the flamez.

I remember when we first started bashing it people said we were just "going against the grain". Yeah right!

[VaughnMichael]

I remember when we first started bashing it people said we were just "going against the grain". Yeah right!
No we are because heaven forbid we could *gasp* have our own minds with our own thoughts.

[maryshine]

haters was probably the wrong word. ( I do hate venus though;))

I think I am guilty. :ohwell: When I first saw season 5 (last year, wow has it really been that long?!) I was so excited. I was probably one of the people who was here talking about what I liked about it. But at least, I didn't flip flop my position. I still think season 5 is pretty cool


Yeah, I hated FF, but I love the Lost Season! Okay, having powers may be kind of strange, but it is only for one season. Besides I love how dark it is.

[Cure]

Besides I love how dark it is.

Hard to be dark with so many light up energy attacks.

[VaughnMichael]

Yeah, I hated FF, but I love the Lost Season! Okay, having powers may be kind of strange, but it is only for one season. Besides I love how dark it is.
Yes omg totally because being dark makes everything so much better. oi:lol:

[PrometheusUFO]

Well, at least I'm enjoying the Lost Season quite a bit more than I did FF. :D

[WEB4KIDZ]

Most of the time you can see the ratings, schedule info/changes and other 4kids news in the 4kids thread on Toonzone.net posted by me (as collector_cliff), D Dubbs and a few others.

Ratings for February 16, 2008
TMNT: Lost Episodes -- 1.1 (Lap of the Gods)
Dinosaur King -------- 1.0
Yu-Gi-Oh GX ---------- 1.0
Chaotic -------------- 0.9
Chaotic -------------- 0.8
Viva Pinata ---------- 0.7
The Adrenaline Project 0.6
Viva Pinata ---------- 0.5

Ratings for February 23, 2008
Chaotic -------------- 1.8
TMNT: Lost Episodes -- 1.6 (Demons and Dragons)
Chaotic -------------- 1.5
Dinosaur King -------- 1.1
Yu-Gi-Oh GX ---------- 1.1
Viva Pinata ---------- 1.0
Viva Pinata ---------- 0.7
The Adrenaline Project 0.6

Ratings for March 1, 2008
TMNT: Lost Episodes -- 1.2 (Legends of the Five Dragons)
Chaotic -------------- 1.1
Dinosaur King -------- 1.1
Chaotic -------------- 1.0
Viva Pinata ---------- 0.9
Yu-Gi-Oh GX ---------- 0.8
Viva Pinata ---------- 0.6
The Adrenaline Project 0.5

Ratings for March 8th, 2008
Chaotic -------------- 1.7
TMNT: Lost Episodes -- 1.6 (More Worlds Than One)
Chaotic -------------- 1.5
Viva Pinata ---------- 1.3
Dinosaur King -------- 1.0
Viva Pinata ---------- 0.9
Yu-Gi-Oh GX ---------- 0.8
The Adrenaline Project 0.5

Ratings for March 15th, 2008
TMNT: Lost Episodes -- 1.4 (Beginning of the End)
Chaotic -------------- 1.4
Dinosaur King -------- 1.4
Chaotic -------------- 1.3
Viva Pinata ---------- 0.9
Yu-Gi-Oh GX ---------- 0.6
Viva Pinata ---------- 0.4
The Adrenaline Project 0.2

Ratings for March 22, 2008
Chaotic -------------- 1.3
Chaotic -------------- 1.0
TMNT: Lost Episodes -- 0.9 (Membership Drive)
Dinosaur King -------- 0.9
Yu-Gi-Oh! GX --------- 0.7
Viva Pinata ---------- 0.7
The Adrenaline Project 0.4
Viva Pinata ---------- 0.2

Ratings for March 29, 2008
TMNT: Lost Episodes -- 1.3 (New World Order 1)
Chaotic -------------- 1.2
Dinosaur King -------- 1.0
Yu-Gi-Oh! GX --------- 1.0
Chaotic -------------- 0.8
Viva Pinata ---------- 0.7
The Adrenaline Project 0.6
Viva Pinata ---------- 0.3

[Spitfire]

Besides I love how dark it is.

The next season is going to be even darker! Check out this screen shot I found

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/3054/18366450mo4.jpg

Now that's dark, I can hardly wait!

[Scandia]

Sounds like TMNT is doing great. Legend of the five dragons was so good!

[Drtooth]

Sounds like TMNT is doing great. Legend of the five dragons was so good!

For most of the run, it's been kicking Spider-Man's butt. I do not lie. Other than Membership drive, that is. But Kids already seen that one.

[Ninjinister]

How the hell would (even if it were the crappiest) TMNT episodes ever place second to the cesspool that is Chaotic?!

[TerranigmaFreak]

How the hell would (even if it were the crappiest) TMNT episodes ever place second to the cesspool that is Chaotic?!

God knows. At least it was only a few episodes. The show's doing well, so if they manage to keep it up with the next season, things might not be too bad. I for one never like to jump on something and call it bad unless I've seen more of it. Hopefully, they can get a good blend of FF and regular TMNT in the next season.

heh it was just something I need to say
I just find it funny how while FF was on the air and we the episode discussions about it we couldn't go one discussion that didn't just bash it simply for the fact that it was different than what we had before.
I love how those people where allowed to go off week after week about how much they hated it and for no reason most of the time other than the turtles could walk out in the day and they're happy for once.
But those of us who think the lost season is by far the lamest thing they've seen since god knows when aren't allowed to make a peep about it or they get the flamez.
And now that these same people have finally seen the lost season and most of them are like oh it really isn't that great and I'd of liked them to continue with FF one more season so I can get a Space Usagi episode. *face palms & shakes head*

Yeah, I agree with you there. I mean, I always try to keep myself optimistic about things, and even though I loved the original style more than FF, by the time I saw the LS on youtube, I was more than a bit disappointed.

[AquaParade]

For most of the run, it's been kicking Spider-Man's butt. I do not lie. Other than Membership drive, that is. But Kids already seen that one.

Wow, the ratings have been better then Spider-man? I'm gonna assume Spider-man is getting pretty excellent ratings and be blown away...I love the new spider-man show, but that news is just too awesome...those are our boys;)

[Sage Ninja]

I'm really pleased that the ratings are doing pretty well for the show. Maybe they shouldn't have skipped showing this in order after-all.

[AquaParade]

I'm just glad that the lost season, although not my favorite season is showing the tmnt can get good rating when it's not lightened up like fast forward:D

[GK Punk]

The next season is going to be even darker! Check out this screen shot I found

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/3054/18366450mo4.jpg

Now that's dark, I can hardly wait!

Man that IS dark. I can't wait!

[AquaParade]

The next season is going to be even darker! Check out this screen shot I found

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/3054/18366450mo4.jpg

Now that's dark, I can hardly wait!

:lol::lol::lol: That's awesome, but I wouldn't mind if that was some kinda metaphor.

[Jelly Bean]

The next season is going to be even darker! Check out this screen shot I found

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/3054/18366450mo4.jpg

Now that's dark, I can hardly wait!

what suble wit you have :roll: ;)

[VaughnMichael]

what suble wit you have :roll: ;)
To quote Buster Bunny when he saw They Might Be Giants "Who Are These Guys??":-?

[TMNT4kids]

Saturday April 5th ratings:

"Based on Kids 6-11, TMNT: Lost Episodes was the highest rated broadcast TV program.

Based on Boys 6-11, TMNT: Lost Episodes and Chaotic were the 2 highest rated broadcast TV programs.

Based on Boys 9-14, TMNT: Lost Episodes was the highest rated program"

These ratings are compared to other networks. These ratings do not include cable channels like Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network.

Did you know Nickelodeon runs 6 half hours of SpongeBob between 9AM-1PM :ohwell:

[X]

Spongebob is cool, my son really digs it.

However, I am still a Ninja Turtle person... Always have been, always will be. I didn't even grow up watching shows like Transformers or Thundercats.

Good to see TMNT being high up in the ratings, even compared to the CW's lineup.

I only hope this means that the new season can be a bit grittier again, seeing as the interest is aparently there. Seasons 1-5 felt more fulfilling, but that is not to say I didn't enjoy FF. I just hope this new season brings us back a bit, to how seasons 1-5 worked.

[AquaParade]

Exactly...this just shows that the higher rating that FF received were probably more due to the movie, as opposed to being from how they lightened up the show and all that. Lets see some real 2k3 turtles!

[CyberCubed]

Which also means the kids watching FF also continued to watch the Lost season, so their interest in TMNT hasn't faded and should continue into Season 7.

With TMNT being one of 4kids top rated shows with Chaotic, I wouldn't be surprised if the show does continue to get renewed through all 5 years that 4kids owns the CW block for.

[maryshine]

Spongebob is cool, my son really digs it.

However, I am still a Ninja Turtle person... Always have been, always will be. I didn't even grow up watching shows like Transformers or Thundercats.

Good to see TMNT being high up in the ratings, even compared to the CW's lineup.

I only hope this means that the new season can be a bit grittier again, seeing as the interest is aparently there. Seasons 1-5 felt more fulfilling, but that is not to say I didn't enjoy FF. I just hope this new season brings us back a bit, to how seasons 1-5 worked.

Grittier and darker!

[X]

I am with Cyber...

There is no excuse why this show cannot last as long as shows like Simpsons, or Power Rangers.

I'd hate to see what could even replace something like TMNT if it were to ever be cancelled. There are only two main cartoons I watch, Transformers and TMNT. Well aside from anime. Had TMNT never existed again outside of the old show, I probably would've never searched out this site, known what foxbox/4kidstv ever was.

This show has the legs to last a very long time, especially with all the comics it can adapt, plus any originality the writers can muster.

[Spitfire]

Exactly...this just shows that the higher rating that FF received were probably more due to the movie, as opposed to being from how they lightened up the show and all that. Lets see some real 2k3 turtles!

If I remember correctly, and I could be wrong, but FF was doing fine before the movie even came out. I know the toyline sold really well, at least in my area. The toys sold out really fast where I live. The only place that had any left were Toysrus and they didn't put up the FF toys till the movie ones were supposed to be out like morons. I'd use that as an indication that kids liked FF as well.

[WEB4KIDZ]

Ratings for April 5, 2008
TMNT: Lost Episodes -- 1.7 (New World Order 2)
Chaotic -------------- 1.3
Dinosaur King -------- 1.2
Chaotic -------------- 1.0
Yu-Gi-Oh GX ---------- 1.0
Viva Pinata ---------- 0.6
The Adrenaline Project 0.3
Viva Pinata ---------- 0.2

[CyberCubed]

^ Wow, it did so much better than all of 4kids other shows. I guess all the kids really wanted to see Shredder come back. :D

[oldmanwinters]

I don't worry about people losing interest in TMNT as much as I worry that the networks will give up on Saturday morning cartoon blocks. :|

[Ninja Tiptup]

It's great that kids are interested in TMNT again it certainly did die off a bit in 2006 and Fast Forward didn't improve things. I'd say there's plenty of evidence by now that they should have produced the original 5th season rather than switch to Fast Forward but I'm just happy to see those episodes on TV and DVD period. Props to Peter Laird for making sure those got finished. The management should have had more faith in his vision.

[ToTheNines]

Fast Forward didn't improve things.

Um.... yes it did :|

I'd say there's plenty of evidence by now that they should have produced the original 5th season rather than switch to Fast Forward

Yeah, I was really steamed when they ditched TLS after the cliff hanger ending of season 4, but mabey they had planned on making them "lost episodes" as a gimmick.

[VaughnMichael]

Um.... yes it did :|
No it didn't not one bit it's seriously the worst TMNT thing ever, kids hated it, the toys never sold, it never got an exclusive comic magazine in the UK and it never got the highest ratings on 4kids since the show started.:roll:
It's a pile of crap and nothing can ever beet the lost season in it's darkness factor it is the king of all TMNTdumb.:lol:
But seriously folks TMNT is TMNT no matter what shape or form it's in light, dark, brown or green they're the turtles, and instead of looking for reasons as to why one thing is better than the other how about being happy that there had been any new episodes and new stories at all.8)

[Kendamu]

No it didn't not one bit it's seriously the worst TMNT thing ever, kids hated it, the toys never sold, it never got an exclusive comic magazine in the UK and it never got the highest ratings on 4kids since the show started.:roll:
It's a pile of crap and nothing can ever beet the lost season in it's darkness factor it is the king of all TMNTdumb.:lol:
But seriously folks TMNT is TMNT no matter what shape or form it's in light, dark, brown or green they're the turtles, and instead of looking for reasons as to why one thing is better than the other how about being happy that there had been any new episodes and new stories at all.8)
Or, if you don't like it, you can just be like me and not watch it.

[CyberCubed]

4kids bought out the CW block for 5 years. Season 7 is probably going to be airing on it in the Fall, so that takes up 1 full year.

After that, 4kids will own Saturday mornings for at least 4 more years, and if TMNT's ratings remain strong it could possibly be renewed for those 4 years as well.

I'm still holding out for the day the new show will have just as many episodes as the original. By my count, once Season 7 ends we'll have about 155 or so episodes of the new show. That would mean only a few more seasons to go for it to have a comparable episode count to the original series.

[Ninjinister]

But seriously folks TMNT is TMNT no matter what shape or form it's in light, dark, brown or green they're the turtles, and instead of looking for reasons as to why one thing is better than the other how about being happy that there had been any new episodes and new stories at all.8)

Amen, brother.

[X]

I would love to see this series actually net more episodes then the old toon.

As for the situation pertaining to any downfall of saturday morning cartoons... Could the show not air on Cartoon Network like it used to?

I'm sure there is some method for which the show could remain on the air in the event saturday morning cartoons cease to exist.

-X-

[AquaParade]

If I remember correctly, and I could be wrong, but FF was doing fine before the movie even came out. I know the toyline sold really well, at least in my area. The toys sold out really fast where I live. The only place that had any left were Toysrus and they didn't put up the FF toys till the movie ones were supposed to be out like morons. I'd use that as an indication that kids liked FF as well.

Hmmm, I guess I forgot that FF came out before the movie..weird...I didn't realize it was that long ago.

I can't believe the ratings are doing so well, thats awesome!

[oldmanwinters]

4kids bought out the CW block for 5 years. Season 7 is probably going to be airing on it in the Fall, so that takes up 1 full year.

After that, 4kids will own Saturday mornings for at least 4 more years, and if TMNT's ratings remain strong it could possibly be renewed for those 4 years as well.

I'm still holding out for the day the new show will have just as many episodes as the original. By my count, once Season 7 ends we'll have about 155 or so episodes of the new show. That would mean only a few more seasons to go for it to have a comparable episode count to the original series.

That's good news! I really hope for the best as well! I would have never thought the new toon would have lasted as long as it has and it looks like there are a bunch of folks with a lot invested in the property's future.

[VaughnMichael]

Or, if you don't like it, you can just be like me and not watch it.
Or that but then you have really no right to complain about the show at all.
It's like the people who bitch about the president but they didn't vote...:dead:

[Spitfire]

It's great that kids are interested in TMNT again it certainly did die off a bit in 2006 and Fast Forward didn't improve things. I'd say there's plenty of evidence by now that they should have produced the original 5th season rather than switch to Fast Forward but I'm just happy to see those episodes on TV and DVD period. Props to Peter Laird for making sure those got finished. The management should have had more faith in his vision.

You still completely fail to realize FF was planned to happen after Season 5 anyways. If season 4 didn't get such bad ratings FF wouldn't have happened ahead of schedule. It's obvious kids were not digging 2K3 and just because a bunch of people well over the age demographic they were trying to reach did not enjoy FF does not make it a success. It obliviously did well when they were airing an hour of it every weekend.

[Kendamu]

Or that but then you have really no right to complain about the show at all.
It's like the people who bitch about the president but they didn't vote...:dead:
I never said anything about complaining. I tend to spend my energy on stuff that I like when I can afford to do so.

As for complaining about the president, I don't really like that analogy; but that's a completely different story.

[ToTheNines]

Hmmm, I guess I forgot that FF came out before the movie..weird...I didn't realize it was that long ago.

I can't believe the ratings are doing so well, thats awesome!

Yep FF debuted on July 29th 2006, about 8 months before TMNT hit America.

[VaughnMichael]

I never said anything about complaining. I tend to spend my energy on stuff that I like when I can afford to do so.

As for complaining about the president, I don't really like that analogy; but that's a completely different story.
No no no no no I didn't mean you I mean those who do :P
And anyone who doesn't at least try to make a difference needs to shut it in my opinion.

[maryshine]

You still completely fail to realize FF was planned to happen after Season 5 anyways. If season 4 didn't get such bad ratings FF wouldn't have happened ahead of schedule. It's obvious kids were not digging 2K3 and just because a bunch of people well over the age demographic they were trying to reach did not enjoy FF does not make it a success. It obliviously did well when they were airing an hour of it every weekend.


Does anyone know how exactually Season four rated?

[AquaParade]

Yep FF debuted on July 29th 2006, about 8 months before TMNT hit America.

Geeze, you're right...I didn't realize how long 2k3 had been gone for...wow.

[mumbo230]

4kids bought out the CW block for 5 years. Season 7 is probably going to be airing on it in the Fall, so that takes up 1 full year.

After that, 4kids will own Saturday mornings for at least 4 more years, and if TMNT's ratings remain strong it could possibly be renewed for those 4 years as well.

When looking at the numbers, bear in mind that TMNT is the only thing airing new episodes on there besides Dinosaur King (which goes into reruns next week) and Yu-Gi-Oh GX. Not that it changes it all that much as TMNT would be on top regardless, but the other shows are taking hits in the ratings because of reruns.

Anyway Chaotic was begun with a seven-year plan to begin with, so it will be running through all five years of 4Kids' CW block, and it's looking pretty certain that TMNT, which gets even higher ratings, will continue along with it. The new Yu-Gi-Oh 5Ds series also starts in the fall so I'm guessing these three shows will form the base for the new block while the rest is filled out with some more minor shows.

There is no excuse why this show cannot last as long as shows like Simpsons, or Power Rangers.

I wouldn't go quite that far. This show is going to last a while yet, but there's no way it's going to last TWENTY YEARS.

Does anyone know how exactually Season four rated?
To my knowledge it hovered got around 0.8 to 1.1. It was in the bottom half ratings-wise, beating out One Piece and G.I. Joe but losing out to Winx Club, Sonic X, Bratz, etc.

[AquaParade]

8)Wow, how great is it that the tmnt have come back sine 2k3 and done this well, and have a chance to still be heading off into the future with high ratings and a ton more episodes. Never thought it was gonna do this good. I think people in general underestimate them sometimes, myself included. It will only be all the more sweeter when the show ends and we have a ton of dvd's...or blu ray's:lol: to watch over and over again.

[R-iZZy]

That's pretty awesome that the ratings have stayed so strong. At this rate, the 2k3 Turtles should be able to outlive the original series' Turtles. And it's even better to know that TMNT is the cartoon to beat for broadcast morning cartoons.

Oh, and TLS >>>>>> FF.

[Jelly Bean]

No it didn't not one bit it's seriously the worst TMNT thing ever, kids hated it, the toys never sold, it never got an exclusive comic magazine in the UK and it never got the highest ratings on 4kids since the show started.:roll:
It's a pile of crap and nothing can ever beet the lost season in it's darkness factor it is the king of all TMNTdumb.:lol:
But seriously folks TMNT is TMNT no matter what shape or form it's in light, dark, brown or green they're the turtles, and instead of looking for reasons as to why one thing is better than the other how about being happy that there had been any new episodes and new stories at all.8)

I disagree with this, if fans are just going to accept what we are given just because it's ninja turtles than we are really saying that we have no standards. If some fans liked FF good for them, but other who don't have a reason to be peed off at the change that was made in the format. Because to us it was a step down from how the show was. And it's not the fact that Fast Foward wasn't "dark" or the story lines where crappy that pissed me and other fans off, it's the fact that the turtles characters where watered down and basically made into flashy, bratty, nock offs of them selves with all their nuances stripped. :evil: I didn't think Fast Foward plots and story telling was all that bad but the way the characters where simplified and "jazzed up" to appeal to younger kids just took any enjoyment or appeal Fast Foward might have had.

[VaughnMichael]

I disagree with this, if fans are just going to accept what we are given just because it's ninja turtles than we are really saying that we have no standards. If some fans liked FF good for them, but other who don't have a reason to be peed off at the change that was made in the format. Because to us it was a step down from how the show was. And it's not the fact that Fast Foward wasn't "dark" or the story lines where crappy that pissed me and other fans off, it's the fact that the turtles characters where watered down and basically made into flashy, bratty, nock offs of them selves with all their nuances stripped. :evil: I didn't think Fast Foward plots and story telling was all that bad but the way the characters where simplified and "jazzed up" to appeal to younger kids just took any enjoyment or appeal Fast Foward might have had.
Sarcasm look it up Belly Jean.
I know your new around here but the reason I said what I did there was because 1. we've have people bashing FF logn enough now, it's over get over it, I never even talk about the show unless it's brought up.
2. Everyone acts like 2k3 and the lost season are just so omgz DARK and adult, I mean really?
No really they're not and yes they tried to fit their demographic lord forbid they do something right and get good raitings on a show for kids by a company named 4kids.

[WEB4KIDZ]

Ratings for April 12, 2008
TMNT: Lost Episodes --- 1.3 (Fathers and Sons)
Chaotic --------------- 1.3
Chaotic --------------- 1.2
Dinosaur King --------- 0.9
Yu-Gi-Oh! GX ---------- 0.8
Viva Pinata ----------- 0.8
Viva Pinata ----------- 0.7
Winx Club ------------- 0.5

[AquaParade]

Is Yu-Gi-oh still pretty popular these days?

[WEB4KIDZ]

Ratings for April 19, 2008
TMNT: Lost Episodes --- 1.1 (Past Present)
Chaotic --------------- 1.1
Chaotic --------------- 1.1
Viva Pinata ----------- 1.0
Dinosaur King --------- 0.9
Yu-Gi-Oh! GX ---------- 0.7
Winx Club ------------- 0.6
Viva Pinata ----------- 0.5

[AquaParade]

Ratings for April 19, 2008
TMNT: Lost Episodes --- 1.1 (Past Present)
Chaotic --------------- 1.1
Chaotic --------------- 1.1
Viva Pinata ----------- 1.0
Dinosaur King --------- 0.9
Yu-Gi-Oh! GX ---------- 0.7
Winx Club ------------- 0.6
Viva Pinata ----------- 0.5

Looks like the whole channel is losing some steam...and TMNT is losing it's head over the others. Hopefully that will change when the new episodes come. I really advise 4kids to maybe change tmnt's time slot up a little bit though...competing with Spider-man isn't gonna be easy from here on out.

[ToTheNines]

Looks like the whole channel is losing some steam...and TMNT is losing it's head over the others. Hopefully that will change when the new episodes come. I really advise 4kids to maybe change tmnt's time slot up a little bit though...competing with Spider-man isn't gonna be easy from here on out.

Yeah, you'd think since there's 2 Chaotic slots, they'd sacrifice one of those.

[Dragon Turtle]

Here is the full Saturday April 14 ratings for all the networks from Cynopsis:
http://www.cynopsis.com/content/view/3443/53/


CW (Kids' WB!) 0.9/5 Avg. (7a-12p)
Will & DeWitt 0.4/4; Magi Nation 0.7/4; Skunk Fu! 0.9/5; Tom and Jerry Tales 1.1/5; Tom and Jerry Tales 1.3/6; Spectacular Spider-Man 1.2/6; Spectacular Spider-Man 1.1/5; World of Quest 0.5/3; Johnny Test 0.9/5; Eon Kid 0.5/3

ABC 1.0/5 Avg. (9a-1p)
The Emperor's New School 0.5/2; The Replacements 0.9/4; That's So Raven 1.1/5; That's So Raven 1.3/6; Hannah Montana 1.7/9; Suite Life of Zack & Cody 1.6/9; Power Rangers Jungle Fury 0.6/3; Power Rangers Jungle Fury 0.4/3

FOX (4Kids TV) 0.9/4 Avg. (8a-12n)
Viva Pinata 0.5/3; Viva Pinata 1.0/5; Chaotic 1.1/5; Chaotic 1.1/5; TMNT Lost Episodes 1.1/5; Dinosaur King 0.9/4; Yu-Gi-Oh GX 0.7/4; Winx Club 0.6/4


NBC (Qubo on NBC) Avg. 0.3/1 (7:30a-12p)
Jacob two Tow 0.1/0; Dragon 0.1/0; My Friend Rabbit 0.0/0; 321 Penguins/Larryboy Adventures 0.2/1; Veggie Tales 0.4/2; Jane and the Dragon 0.4/2


CBS (KEWLopolis on CBS) 0.3/2 Avg. (7-10a/10a-1p*)
Care Bears 0.2/2; Strawberry Shortcake 0.4/2; Cake 0.4/2; Sushi Pack 0.3/2; Dino Squad 0.4/2; Horseland 0.2/1


CABLE NETWORKS:

NICKELODEON 3.9/22 Avg. (7a-1p)

Jimmy Neutron 1.4/16; Jimmy Neutron 2.6/21; Fairly OddParents 3.3/21; Fairly OddParents 4.0/22; SpongeBob SquarePants 4.9/22; SpongeBob SquarePants 5.2/25; Back at the Barnyard 4.6/21; Back at the Barnyard 4.2/20; SpongeBob SquarePants 5.1/26; SpongeBob SquarePants 4.4/24; SpongeBob SquarePants 3.6/21; SpongeBob SquarePants 3.3/20


CARTOON NETWORK 2.3/13 Avg. (7:30a-1p)
Cartoon Cartoon Top 5 (60 minutes) 2.2/16; Chop Socky Chooks 2.5/14; Blue Dragon 2.0/10; Pokemon: Diamond & Pearl Battle Dimension 2.2/10; Ben 10: Alien Force 3.4/16;Bakugan 2.4/12; Robotboy 2.3/13; Cartoon Cartoon (60 minutes) 1.8/10; Cartoon Cartoon (60 minutes) 1.1/5

DISNEY CHANNEL 1.5/8 Avg. (7a-1p)
The Wiggles 1.3/15; Johnny and the Sprites 1.3/10; My Friends Tigger & Pooh 1.6/10; My Friends Tigger & Pooh 1.4/8; Mickey Mouse Clubhouse 1.7/9; Mickey Mouse Clubhouse 1.7/8; Bunnytown 1.3/6; Handy Manny 1.2/6; Little Einsteins 0.8/4; Charlie and Lola 1.0/5; Princess diaries (125 minutes) 2.5/16

TOON DISNEY (Jetix) 0.6/3 Avg. (8a-1p)
Legend of the Dragon 0.2/2; Jackie Chan Adventures 0.3/3; Power Rangers: Mystic Force 0.4/2; Power Rangers Jungle Fury 0.8/5; The Emperors New Groove (105 minutes) 0.9/4; The Emperors New School Short (15 minutes) 0.5/2; The Emperors New School 0.5/3; The Emperors New School 0.5/3; The Emperors New School 0.5/3; The Emperors New School 0.5/3

[Unicron the Agitator]

It also needs to be pointed out that in many markets, especially the big New York market, the LS goes head to head with the new Spider-Man show. Pretty good for a mid-season replacement going against the CW's new "franchise". (And thank god for DVRs;)...)

[Stephen]

Is the Lost Season scheduled for re-runs once it's finished airing for the first time?

[WEB4KIDZ]

Is the Lost Season scheduled for re-runs once it's finished airing for the first time?

Nope. They are starting over with episode 1 of season 1. I posted the schedule for May 10th here:

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showpost.php?p=606383&postcount=63

[Sage Ninja]

sounds good I've beeen wanting to see some episode from earlier seasons again.