does the person in this video post here?

[jerome]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fCs9PFYHTe8

just came across this on youtube...wondering if she is a drome member?

[Spitfire]

Only when you talk about her or make fun of her. Otherwise she hardly ever posts.

[jerome]

Only when you talk about her or make fun of her. Otherwise she hardly ever posts.

ah i see. well just for the record i wasn't making fun or anything, just curious if she was among us here....I'm quite jealous of her collection I must admit.

[Jester]

Only when you talk about her or make fun of her. Otherwise she hardly ever posts.
Indeed, she's due right about....

[Revan]

Oh the lovable Ivey. She does have quite the collection. I seem to remember her wanting to open a museum.

[Sewer Bull]

I knew it would be about IveyAngelo before I even entered this thread.

[jerome]

Only when you talk about her or make fun of her. Otherwise she hardly ever posts.


do people on the board make fun of her? i didn't mean to bring up a touchy subject or anything...I was really impressed and jealous of her collection. I wish i had some of the heads from the movies....

[Sewer Bull]

Many people are just highly confused by the degree her obsession has reached.

Then they look in the mirror, slap themselves in the faces, lose interest in the TMNT and go back to their normal lives.

[Revan]

do people on the board make fun of her?
yup :( (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=18334&highlight=ivey&page=13)

[GK Punk]

I knew it would be about IveyAngelo before I even entered this thread.

Same haha.

[gobo]

Shockingly, this was the first time I've seen any of the documentary stuff about her. If I start taking out loans to fund my fandoms, I need someone to have me locked up. >_<

EDIT: Not trying to insult anyone, but I wouldn't be surprised if I did anyway... :ohwell:

[Jester]

yup :( (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=18334&highlight=ivey&page=13)

And look who it is...

*shock* *awe*

Ivey may be eccentric, but that's why we love her, and at times want to murder her and steal all of her stuff. :P

this is worse than Michelle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbA0sPziOl4
just look at Rob's face.....he is not amused.

[Spitfire]

Personally I believe she has some form of mental illness and I'm not saying that to be mean. There's obsession to certain degrees and I believe her degree is rather high. Taking out bank loans, pizza diet, dressing in the costume, 5 grand in karate lessons...Internet obsession is a clinical disorder recently discovered, I would consider this to be on that level.

[Jester]

Yes, but she has said that most of the VH1 special was a bit torqued. It's an exageration.

[Warhorse]

Personally I believe she has some form of mental illness and I'm not saying that to be mean. There's obsession to certain degrees and I believe her degree is rather high. Taking out bank loans, pizza diet, dressing in the costume, 5 grand in karate lessons...Internet obsession is a clinical disorder recently discovered, I would consider this to be on that level.

You should see some of the fans that obsess over Harry Potter, Star Wars, Star Trek and LOTR!

But I'll admit, I'm obsessed with horses and I have spent thousands, if not tens of thousands, in just the riding lessons and shows. Then there are the bank loans to pay for the competition horses and saddles and bridles and trucks and trailers, and the credit cards to haul my horses across the country from show to show. But I at least win most of my money back with prize money, or by selling the horse to someone who is more advanced thant me and wants to progress.

[Buslady]

Ivey's obsession with TMNT is no different from fans of Bewitched, Lucy, Elvis, HP, Star Wars, Star Trek...

5k on lessons is what? normal duh! ...people spend thousands on their hobbies. I've spent alot of the turtles! I dont wanna keep track cos it'll make me sick... i know I've spent tons. Finally gotten it to a manageable level.

You can be an obsessed fan and have a life too.

[AquaParade]

It's pretty funny that anyone over the age of like...15 years old still thinks to make fun of people and give em crap for having a hobby...or for any reason really, when you're just being rude. Some people really need to grow up.(And no, that doesn't mean giving up tmnt...if that's what it sounds like:lol:)

[Ninjinister]

What the hell. I like Ivey. If you think that her dedicated to a fandom is outrageous, or that it indicates something is wrong with her, then you need to meet more people. And Splinter needs to thump you upside the noggin with his cane.

[Jester]

Ok, both sides watch it. I'm sure that some people don't mean any disrespect.

[Newton Gimmick]

Yeah and none of you guys are obsessed at all? LOL.

[Buslady]

I never denied my obsession. I love Raphers and everything about him. :P It's no secret!

[AquaParade]

To each their own. Bravo to Ivey.

[MrPliggins]

heck, my gf's family thinks there's something wrong with me for being almost 30 and liking comics period, let alone tmnt. Anyway, pretty much everything said by vh1 in the video is made up stuff, from what I hear.

[Spitfire]

I was unaware of that but I remember she did an internet interview and that was an even more in depth look at her hobby. That is the video that made me question her mental state not the VH1 interview.

I wasn't making fun of her or anything it was a serious observation. I have also spent quite a bit on turtles but I've never taken out bank loans to buy things or submitted myself to the turtles lifestyle complete with her own sewer-loft. I'm sure there's people out there in every fandom who are like that. There's probably a guy out there somewhere who has his own Batcave for all I know. I'm just saying that in my opinion this is not a normal practice no matter how hardcore of a fan you are.

[Sewer Bull]

Spitfire's got a point.

Having a huge collection is not a bad thing.

Getting banks loans for financing that, changing your diet to pizzas with weird toppings, making a sewer out of your room and basing your life philosophy on the songs performed during the tour in the early 90s is just borderline insane... if not crossing the said border already.

Things like that probably happen in other fandoms, probably even on the greater scale - still, it's nothing terribly "normal" as many people here try to prove.

[Ra]

You get many types of fans here. First you have fans that come in once and leave. Next you have the ones that go in and out of the fandom. Then you have your casual fans like most of us on here. After that you get some strong fans that love TMNT with all of their passion.

Then you have Ivy.

[Kendamu]

Meh. People may think she's crazy, but VH1 could put me in the same light if I let them. I mean, my new apartment looks kinda like a sewer lair, I study martial arts, I really like pizza, and I have a bunch of TMNT shirts, some TMNT posters, and a bunch of TMNT comics and DVDs.

[Jester]

Basing your life philosophy on the songs performed during the tour in the early 90s is just borderline insane... if not crossing the said border already.
I live my life by "Walk Straight." I've got to be...be straight. Yes....must be and live straight.

[Drtooth]

Spitfire's got a point.

Having a huge collection is not a bad thing.

Getting banks loans for financing that, changing your diet to pizzas with weird toppings, making a sewer out of your room and basing your life philosophy on the songs performed during the tour in the early 90s is just borderline insane... if not crossing the said border already.

Things like that probably happen in other fandoms, probably even on the greater scale - still, it's nothing terribly "normal" as many people here try to prove.

I'd think of taking out a bank loan to finance my TMNT collection. Think I can borrow enough for just the NECA line? Yup, I'm poor alright. :tsmile:

Anyway, I won't say that's crazy or that's normal. I mean, I say this all the time... if you have an extensive collection of any TV-show or cartoon series, you're considered crazy, and no one is to talk to you. However, if you have the same degree of obsession with sports, the local news pops by your house and tapes a story of how much a hero you are for going to every single Official fill in the blank of that team, and wrapping your newborn or puppy in the team logos. Either way, obsession is obsession.

But unless this woman here starts causing riots, flipping over cars, and setting fire to them because the Turtles won the episode or something (like a bunch of crazed Hockey fans just did), she really isn't hurting anyone. maybe herself somehow, but it's not going to wind up in widespread chaos.

[sdp]

Did VH1 edit it to make it look funnier? of course. Does every fandom have obsessed people? yeah.

However anyone who's seen the VH1 video or the other "fan" video that also has buslady can see she has a real problem and should probably see a psychatrist. She needs some help and I mean that in a good way, its probably best for her to do it. Yeah in that video Buslady comes off as a huge fan of TMNT and just really geeky but in a different way more of the same way like most of just here are. :P

[Revan]

I live my life by "Walk Straight." I've got to be...be straight. Yes....must be and live straight.
you homo-phobe
Did VH1 edit it to make it look funnier? of course. Does every fandom have obsessed people? yeah.
Ivey said when she was sparring they went for several minutes and she kicked but but there was one short part in which she was knocked down and that was the only part that made it into the video.
VH1 used only the worst of the interview
The fanatical episode was a bit less biased

[Buslady]

Did VH1 edit it to make it look funnier? of course. Does every fandom have obsessed people? yeah.

However anyone who's seen the VH1 video or the other "fan" video that also has buslady can see she has a real problem and should probably see a psychatrist. She needs some help and I mean that in a good way, its probably best for her to do it. Yeah in that video Buslady comes off as a huge fan of TMNT and just really geeky but in a different way more of the same way like most of just here are. :P

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Yup Geeky LOL!!

I wanted to show that you can be a geeky fan of whatever and still have a real life, family, house, and run a company. I hope I kinda got that through. The interview was hard to do, I think now I would have said things way differently but oh well!

I think Fanatical was so much less biased cos they let US run the show. They had a guideline and staying with that we ran the show. They edited really well IMO. They showed me, pretty much as I am - well, I think I'm less scary IRL! They wanted to show what we do with out fandoms, I think they did alrighty and respectfully. I keep & breed turtles, decorate the bus (it's not like that anymore, actually, I don't drive that one anymore either) and whatever I do.
Ivey isn't all that bad, she's nice. She's very enthusiastic, she loves it all and is 100% about TMNT. That's what I think counts as a TMNT fan, what she does WITH the fandom, that's her business.
And folks, she did not change her diet to eat pizza like that all the time. A diet like that would kill a person!

[Hero]

I think Ivey's ears are burning round about now.

===HERO

[IveyAngelo]

*peeks in*

Hey everyone, yeah I come when people mention me... I'm really a lurker on most boards, though when my name is brought up one person or another says "Hey did you see this topic" and boom here I am... wow this is a recent one, usually I don't see it till the topic is a bit old.

1. I don't eat pizza everyday... I told VH1 I eat it 1 to 2 times a month, unless there's an event I might have it a few times that weekend because of the other fans I'm with and it's cheap eats for a large group. But I get sick of food fast from eating it to often... I don't want to ruin pizza for myself by having it to much... blah...

My room isn't the sewer loft, that's the room next to my room. It was built up like that for a party, and just stayed that way ;) I like it, it's a cool place to set up my display.

People pick on me for how much I spend on Turtles and taking loans, I find that funny. It's my money right? I earn the money and won't do anything that'll put me so far in dept to where I can't handle myself. I pay all of my bills and even rent. Yet even with keeping up with bills, I still manage to keep my collection going.

Before I was hurt I was working almost all the time, I love to work. And my jobs barely had anything to do with Turtles. In 98 I was working three jobs, teaching Karate, a Pretzel place, and a entertainment/pizza place. I never ate the pizza there (not once, when doing costume jobs eating heavy food is not good for ya, before or after a gig). My last job I had, where I got injured, I worked 68 hours a week. And hung out with friends, mainly watching anime on my time off (it was while I was working here that VH1 got a hold of me).

Am I obsessed? Yes. Do I feel I need help? No. Will I keep up my way of living? As best as I can, yes.

I am happy with who I am, ok so people don't understand me. Though as many has pointed out here (thanks everyone!) there are a lot of other obsessed people out there who like things from sports, to coin collecting, stamp collecting, and they are seen as normal even though someone will pay thousands of dollars for one stamp... just because my obsession is over a comic/cartoon people find it odd. I personally find those who spend their lives looking at dead bodies as a bit weird, but if that is what they enjoy doing than may they be happy with their lives ;)

Some of you know me on other boards or instance messanger and those who know me even more so, know that I support the TMNT 100% but they are not the only thing in my life. I love and collect anime like Ranma 1/2, Naruto, Fullmetal Alchemist and Death Note. I am an animal and nature nut, as I love going out and spending a day in the woods and I've got pets around the house. Right now two dogs and a cat. My family comes before any of my collections or hobbies. I live more of a normal life than people may realize, I just talk Turtles a lot.. buy things here or there (both of those loans for Turtle heads are totally paid off and was paid off long before the loans was due to be paid off (saved money on interest that way ;) ))...

I don't mind making new friends and really I got no problem of being on other message boards... just I keep so busy with the one that I help run, plus keeping up with myspace and the other places I go to. So I become a lurker... I do read and reply to most personal messages that come my way. I don't mean to lurk so much, there's just so many boards out there... you have to find where you're comfy at. ;)

[Drtooth]

I'd like to point out, I pretty much eat Pizza every other day. But, of course, they're the one dollar kinds with Mama Celest's ugly mug on the box.

NARF.

[General Traag]

To each his/her own i would say, and that's atleast a good thing to spend money for, crack or automatic weapons would be much worse for example.
I support this. :J

[Ninjinister]

Might I add that I credit the Turtles and Splinter for shaping the way I grew up just as much as I do my parents? Or that as soon as I moved into my own apartment, I bought several hundreds of dollars worth of MoC TMNT figures from eBay and Amazon?

By the way, good to see you, Ivey. You were amongst the people I was telling CrazyRob I hadn't heard from in a while.

[IveyAngelo]

Heh yeah, as I mention I'm good at falling into lurker mode ;)

These past few months have been insane with surgery stuff for my evil arm... delays... and such and trips. Just got back from a week long trip out east (went to NYC Comic Con). And in the morning, I'm going to the doctors to hopefully get this surgery stuff taken care of.

Scary stuff, never had surgery before... never wanted to have to have surgery... I hate pain.

Hope everyone is doing well on Gaia, I'll hopefully be back to my normal checking there soon.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

I was unaware of that but I remember she did an internet interview and that was an even more in depth look at her hobby. That is the video that made me question her mental state not the VH1 interview.

I wasn't making fun of her or anything it was a serious observation. I have also spent quite a bit on turtles but I've never taken out bank loans to buy things or submitted myself to the turtles lifestyle complete with her own sewer-loft. I'm sure there's people out there in every fandom who are like that. There's probably a guy out there somewhere who has his own Batcave for all I know. I'm just saying that in my opinion this is not a normal practice no matter how hardcore of a fan you are.

I think a batcave would be pretty awesome.:)

I rewatch that episode of that show every so often. It makes me wish that I had kept all my Turtles stuff from when I was a kid.

[Ninjinister]

Heh yeah, as I mention I'm good at falling into lurker mode ;)

These past few months have been insane with surgery stuff for my evil arm... delays... and such and trips. Just got back from a week long trip out east (went to NYC Comic Con). And in the morning, I'm going to the doctors to hopefully get this surgery stuff taken care of.

Scary stuff, never had surgery before... never wanted to have to have surgery... I hate pain.

Hope everyone is doing well on Gaia, I'll hopefully be back to my normal checking there soon.

I would have thought they would have fixed your arm by now. Bah! And yeah, surgery sucks >.< I have the scars to prove it.

Back on topic, I actually had heard scuttlebutt about this show (after I had been introduced to Ivey), but I have never seen it... still not to this day. I honestly don't know why I haven't just clicked on someone's Youtube link... maybe it's my avoision to the VH1s and MTVs of the world.

[IveyAngelo]

It's for the best not to see it ;) It's so not who I am... the other show Fanatical is worth watching.

The surgery is done this is only the trail one and from what I can see this is a lot of help but at the same time it's very hard to know since I'm in pain from the surgery itself. Though the swelling in my hand is down, I can ride in a car without feeling the pain because of bumps in roads, and wind isn't hurting me. I can touch people again. It's weird, but it's better than pain.

[Cure]

Might I add that I credit the Turtles and Splinter for shaping the way I grew up just as much as I do my parents?

Jesus, if I was your father, I'd disown you right away. Holding cartoons in the same light as a father and mother? You're insane. That's why so many parents let their kids rot away in front of the TV.

[愛]

I'm blown away.

[gobo]

*takes TheCure off of his Christmas card list*

[Cure]

Seriously, if you don't see something wrong with that statement you're as insane as he is.

[Archon_Turtle]

Some kids are lucky that they were raised by television...In many cases, TV did a much better job raising them then their screwed up parents would have.

[Sewer Bull]

I wonder how a rather light-hearted and silly cartoon with intentionally absurd plot (something on which we all agree, see that 6th season review bashing thread), that was mostly a long-running toy commercial, could shape anyone's growing up in the same way parents did.

Cos' I don't believe in "teaching the family values by showing those good role-model Hamatos".

Some kids are lucky that they were raised by television...In many cases, TV did a much better job raising them then their screwed up parents would have.

Prove it. Seriously. Cos' this statement is rather ridiculous.

[Archon_Turtle]

Prove it. Seriously. Cos' this statement is rather ridiculous.

Really? Cause I sure don't recall a television ever sexually molesting a child...or beating them...

[Spitfire]

Prove it. Seriously. Cos' this statement is rather ridiculous.

Well the point of a lot of cartoons is to teach kids moral values. If there's no parent around to teach kids these values then they need to learn them from somewhere. If the kids didn't then they would turn out just like their parents. It's the same as religion it just works in a different way. Religion also teaches people moral values but the delivery system is much different and targeted at adults more then kids. Both are now used as tools for raising kids more and more now of days. Mainly TV and now video games are starting to as well.

It's a media driven age and parents are more and more anal about censorship now because they want to take a backseat in their parenting and let a piece of technology and public school raise their kid. Sad but true.

[Archon_Turtle]

As far as the turtles shaping who we were as children, I'll say this...
When I was a kid, I had what is called bilateral pneumothorax (both my lungs collapsed), giving me the need for chest tubes to inflate my lungs, and eventually an emergency tracheotomy (a big gaping hole in my neck). I was your classic medical freak. Everyone...EVERYONE stared, and whispered, and shielded their children's eyes from me. Trust me, a childhood like that doesn't do wonders for one's self esteem or mental well being. I was completely friendless, so I turned to the only "friends" I had that didn't judge me...my toys...specifically the ninja turtles. They kept me sane, literally. I can directly attribute my being a somewhat normal, functioning adult today in part to them. No question. Not many people can fathom the social rejection that I had to endure throughout my entire childhood, but if it wasn't for the bond that I formed with the Ninja Turtles at an early age, I probably would have killed myself around the 6th grade.

[IveyAngelo]

Heh I can tell someone here doesn't really read my post... I would never call the Turtles like a parent figure to me, ever... more like a teacher/friend when needed back when I was a kid.

TV did NOT raise me, my mom and dad took a good hand in my life, I spent more time playing outside or going on family vacations than I did in front of the TV. Ok, so I'm a collector, I got a lot of toys growing up. But that's just how my life was, esp since I was dressing up like a Turtle for kids parties getting $125/hour... I was young and would take that money to the toy store and keep up with the toys as they came out.

Archon I'm sorry to hear, and I'm glad the Turtles were able to be there for you. I was marked as a freak, just because my cousin who went to the same school as me did not like me. So I was ganged up on and hurt by other kids my age. I was friends with younger children that lived on my block, who would come by to hang out. I also had my brother in my early years and my sister when I got older. (I'm the youngest of 3).

It was great meeting you at NYC Comic Con, and I'm glad I've gotten the chance to know you online. From what I can tell from the times I met ya, you're an awesome person. I hope that your life is going so much better for you now.

TheCure, it shows by your post that you don't know me at all. And if you're going to judge by TV than you're the type of people that VH1 focuses on. Knowing they can fool with what ever they want to throw your way. If you read my post that I already made her this week, you would of saw that I put my real family in front of my obsession and collection... and that TMNT is not the only thing I enjoy.

Even to this day, the TV is off 90% of the time. Even though I'm home almost all the time, I rather spend time talking with my family or working on projects that keep my mind going instead of sitting there with the TV on.

[GK Punk]

TheCure wasn't saying that to you, but The S.

[IveyAngelo]

oh, ok... read that in my email notification it didn't see the quote...

Though still to each their own, if a person feels that way than they have their own reasons. It's like giving a teacher or a neighbor credit for helping raise someone. Parents can do so much, and sometimes they do need help depending on their life styles as well.

A friend of mine back in 2000 had a big mental crash, put her in the hospital.. when she came out she was a different person... we blamed anti depression over take because of how the doctor prescribe them to her. In 2002 she had another crash, much worse... this time it took months before I could get through to her. When I did I learned it wasn't the meds, it was her parents. We got her out of her folks house, helped her get on the right type of meds to get her life going, and now she even has her own apartment. She's doing very well now, though not thanks to her parents.

So while some of us have great parents... others need another outlet to learn from. So I won't judge anyone by that comment either.

I've talked with S many many times, and he's a great guy.

When I saw that email in my inbox I just saw a harsh line... one I've had many try to tell me before... (I mean just read all the fun comments on youtube). So I will admit I assumed it was an attack on me. Though really it didn't matter who the attack was on, it was still a rude comment. So sorry that I replied the wrong way the first time.

Though we all grew up different... so judging one by your own life style doesn't always work.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Wow, if you guys think that kind of spending is insane...well, ok, I haven't spent NEAR that much, but I'd hate to calculate what I've spent on anime/manga related things in my life. Oh lord, I'd hate to calculate just the DBZ stuff.

The point - being a fan of anything is expensive in the long run. ^_^

[Ninjinister]

Yeah, who's the crazy one now?!? Wa-hahahahahaha!

[Archon_Turtle]

Yeah, who's the crazy one now?!? Wa-hahahahahaha!

Still you...but we love you anyway :-P

[Ninjinister]

Still you...but we love you anyway :-P

That was my point.

And please don't love me. Nothing good ever comes from that <.<

[Bigfoot]

This is an excellent conversation that I would like to be a part of.

First of all I would like to say hello to Ivey, I have seen the VH1 video in the past and didn't know that you posted here. I know from experience that TV/news can cast whatever kind of light it wants on a story. (PM me for more info. I'd like to get to know you.)

I too am an avid TMNT collector and enthusiast. Many people call me crazy or abnormal for collecting something based on a comic book/cartoon from the '80's. It is my money that I earn that gets me the things I like, so I see no problem with it. I don't drink, do drugs, or go out much. I too find it as a comfort zone to surround myself with all things turtle. I wasn't raised by TV, but I am sure some things have stayed with me.

As far as hobbies and money spent collecting goes... It's a matter of priority. It is up to the individual to determine how much is to much.

[IveyAngelo]

Totally agreed BigFoot! :)

It's just annoying that people think they can judge others by what they do. No one should have to explain themselves, just be able to live and be happy with their choices in life. As long as you're not hurting anyone else, you have the right to be who ever you wish to be. :)

Everyone has the choice to go where they want, with what ever they want. I just hope they enjoy ;) And make what ever choices is best to them and their goals.

[Archon_Turtle]

As long as you're not hurting anyone else, you have the right to be who ever you wish to be. :)


Ivey, you constantly hurt me by not giving me your movie props *nod*

Please...don't hurt me anymore *sob*

[IveyAngelo]

Ivey, you constantly hurt me by not giving me your movie props *nod*

Please...don't hurt me anymore *sob*

LOL sorry, those aren't for grabs... I'm sure you can find some others out there ;) :lol:

[METALHEAD]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DejvJqiEyGo&feature=related okay..i'm a big fan but the thing is my obbsession comes and goes...but this chick...its just extream! PIZZA EVERY DAY?! huh i ate pizza alott i also like other foods....like chicken, and..well...my choice of foods isnt healthy but i dont eat pizza everyday she is WEIRD! and i'm a furry! shoot, furries aren't that weird....i dunno its just one of those things that make you say...WTF?!:o

well anyways--i have my obbessions, sometimes it can really annoye my mother XD heh.....still reading these post i never realize what good morals the tmnt gave...i exspect that from he-man but tmnt? huh...to to thunk huh? *waves at IveyAngelo * HI!

[Kendamu]

Wasn't there a topic about this just last week?

EDIT: Yes. yes there was. http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=23864

[Sewer Bull]

God, not this topic again.


Any thoughts?

Yes, your opening post is quite chaotic and doesn't make much sense.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Is it really true, or maybe a home video made up "just for fun"? It's in the "comedy" category, and we don't know. I saw a TV documentary with two girls/young women who were obessed by Dolly Parton, and they moved to Nashville to come closer her "Tennessee mountain home". They had so much Dolly Parton stuff that they soon would have to live in the garage. One of them later became tired of it.

[IveyAngelo]

Is it really true, or maybe a home video made up "just for fun"? It's in the "comedy" category, and we don't know. I saw a TV documentary with two girls/young women who were obessed by Dolly Parton, and they moved to Nashville to come closer her "Tennessee mountain home". They had so much Dolly Parton stuff that they soon would have to live in the garage. One of them later became tired of it.

It's not all true, it's VH1 finding people who have hobbies and doing a lot of video taping, than putting in someone to make fun of those people.

There is another show out there called Fanatical that did much better.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DejvJqiEyGo&feature=related okay..i'm a big fan but the thing is my obbsession comes and goes...but this chick...its just extream! PIZZA EVERY DAY?! huh i ate pizza alott i also like other foods....like chicken, and..well...my choice of foods isnt healthy but i dont eat pizza everyday she is WEIRD! and i'm a furry! shoot, furries aren't that weird....i dunno its just one of those things that make you say...WTF?!

well anyways--i have my obbessions, sometimes it can really annoye my mother XD heh.....still reading these post i never realize what good morals the tmnt gave...i exspect that from he-man but tmnt? huh...to to thunk huh? *waves at IveyAngelo * HI!

Hehehe HI - Thanks for the laugh ;)
- Just for the record don't eat pizza everyday ;)

[Warhorse]

To each his/her own i would say, and that's atleast a good thing to spend money for, crack or automatic weapons would be much worse for example.
I support this. :J

Uh-Oh, I don't buy crack, but I do have quite the collection of automatic guns and other ammo in my house. Coolest weapon I have is an old 70's bazooka my uncle smuggled out of the Vietnam war. But most of the weapons are on display except for the hunting rifles, which we used those when it's in season.

[Krueger]

My apologies if this has been posted in the past, but I saw this clip for the first time today. I'm sure a lot of us on here can admit to being obsessed Turtles fans. I am! I have had family and friends give me strange looks with all the merchandise I buy but I don't think I'm this bad. A TMNT song could never change my life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCs9PFYHTe8

She has to be on this site, right?

[Buslady]

I'm not even going to look. But yeah, she's on here sometimes. There is a recent thread about it as well.

[OA]

That would be Ivey. She hasn't been around here for a while I don't think, but I think she probably pokes in every now and again. She has her own forum, TMNT-L.

[Krueger]

Cool, I just checked out her forum. I guess she is a mini TMNT fan celeb. Very awesome.

EDIT: After you mentioned her name I searched it on this website and saw the recent thread. All the info is there. I do apoligize again for the thread and if mods want to delete it, feel free.

[Ninjinister]

Sweet Jesus, why are there so many topics cropping up about this? Is the link getting spammed or something?

[VaughnMichael]

are you friggin damn serious?? I mean come on!! stop being so damn lazy and look at the posts around you ugh!:dead:

[Revan]

Was this recently aired again on television or what?! Why the sudden interest in ivey? what is this, like thread 4 or 5 about the same thing?

[Machias Banshee]

Chill out folks, I'll just merge this with the other one.. :)


*Edit*

Done!

[Revan]

phew, quick thinking there, machias. My head almost exploded.

[Machias Banshee]

:lol: Welcome... I'd rather clean up threads than exploded heads.. *offers ductape to hold head together*

[Revan]

just in time
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb94/kalaneutrino/pics/tapehead.jpg

[Krueger]

are you friggin damn serious?? I mean come on!! stop being so damn lazy and look at the posts around you ugh!:dead:

It has nothing to do with being lazy. I hang in the toys section mostly and not in the general discussion thread hence I'm not too familiar with it. Repeated subjects come up all the time and generate as much of a discussion as much as they did the previous time. I just had bad timing with it. How am I supposed to find out that video has been posted already? Should I search "crazy tmnt fan?" Just chill out, bro. It was a mistake. Why are you so bothered by it?

[Revan]

It has nothing to do with being lazy. I hang in the toys section mostly and not in the general discussion thread hence I'm not too familiar with it. Repeated subjects come up all the time and generate as much of a discussion as much as they did the previous time. I just had bad timing with it. How am I supposed to find out that video has been posted already? Should I search "crazy tmnt fan?" Just chill out, bro. It was a mistake. Why are you so bothered by it?

http://simma.ytmnd.com/

[Kendamu]

This should be stickied.

[VaughnMichael]

It has nothing to do with being lazy. I hang in the toys section mostly and not in the general discussion thread hence I'm not too familiar with it. Repeated subjects come up all the time and generate as much of a discussion as much as they did the previous time. I just had bad timing with it. How am I supposed to find out that video has been posted already? Should I search "crazy tmnt fan?" Just chill out, bro. It was a mistake. Why are you so bothered by it?
It's not the fact that you posted it, it' the fact that more attention is being given to such matters that don't need it.:dead:
http://simma.ytmnd.com/
What????? I can't hear you now that I'm deaf.
http://dl2.glitter-graphics.net/pub/221/221632x40ldtlpfy.gif
This should be stickied.
If it does I'm leaving.:lol:

[Spitfire]

just in time
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb94/kalaneutrino/pics/tapehead.jpg

Was that guy trying to be the Rat King?

[Kendamu]

Was that guy trying to be the Rat King?
That's what I was wondering.

[IveyAngelo]

*blink*

Wow, this is being brought up a lot here... Not sure why it's getting brought up more.

Heh I don't get around on the net too much more of a lurker, but the emails of replies on this topic keep getting me to come out of lurking here. hehehe

[GK Punk]

Only recently. I'm surprised at how much it does come up lately though, you rarely get mentioned. Now it's a daily thing!

[Andrew NDB]

Looks like she's in need of help!

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-a-disabled-family-find-stability?qid=374104237a37bb9b0685138fd11e985a

[ResidentEvil7]

After about 5 years after I met Ms. Ivey and her other friends in Chicago during the 25th Shell-anniversary stop, she and I started to become enemies. The girl would flip out at the slightest disagreement and would start taking posting feature rights away from me up until she just banned me entirely. I would talk about political stuff (which I didn't know better back then you don't do) and talk about WWE or current events and if she didn't like it, she would get mad. One time, she was blathering about something, I forgot what, and I responded with "whatever" and she gets highly offended just by that single word. She is so politically correct that everything offends her, including politics, comedy, wrestling.

The girl needs psychological help. Thank god her forum site is gone; it didn't deserve the hell it gave me before I turned to MGTOW.

[IMJ]

The girl would flip out at the slightest disagreement and would start taking posting feature rights away from me up until she just banned me entirely. One time, she was blathering about something, I forgot what, and I responded with "whatever" and she gets highly offended just by that single word.

Maybe she has changed and needs the help. Reach to her with an olive branch.

[IndigoErth]

Well, I wish them well and luck with that, I'm sure suddenly having to move probably sucks big time.

Lucky for her, unlike most people in that kind of situation, if she still owns some of the pieces she had which would probably very easily sell, they do have an option there for some of the funds should she choose to prioritize important life matters.

[Andrew NDB]

I think most of her collectibles were lost or damaged in a giant flood. Or am I imagining that?

[CyberCubed]

I feel like I've seen this thread about 10 times over the last two decades.

[IndigoErth]

I think most of her collectibles were lost or damaged in a giant flood. Or am I imagining that?
Oh, right, I do vaguely recall something about that being mentioned once.

[Roseangelo]

DO NOT ever give Michele Ivey money.

Michele is a selfish person who is only interested in connections that benefit herself. She doesn't even participate in any TMNT forums unless they are "hers." She will try to tell you how much she gives back to the "community," but she doesn't.

If you "befriend" her, she will find a way to take money from you or will guilt you into giving her TMNT things she doesn't have.

She has made no effort to support herself since she has had the excuse of being "disabled." She spent all the Worker's Comp money she got on TMNT things and going to conventions. She still goes to conventions, and guilts people into "sponsoring" her so that she can.

Her solution to every situation is to ask for money. She refuses to sell items that she can't even properly store anyways. She really doesn't even take care of the items that she has.

There was a flood situation a few years ago, but I believe the majority of her collection has been in storage lockers. Lockers that she has been using all of her disability money to pay for while her family literally sits at home starving.

She never faces any consequences for her actions, because someone is always there to bail her out. She knows who will and she seeks those people out.

Don't be that person. Do not give her money.

[Roseangelo]

She has done SO MUCH for the TMNT community and is underappreciated!

And what has she done, exactly?

[IveyAngelo]

Hiya,

Yup the email alert that this topic is active got me to look again. First I want to say Thanks to anyone who does help. Now to address some of the replies, as I really have nothing to hide.

ResidentEvil7... we're enemies? Because I was enforcing the "rules" of TMNT-L? I didn't know, never took it personal. Just doing my job. Don't recall coming after you on any post about wrestling, seeing as how we had the off topic area where anyone could share their other fandoms... even I would talk about Anime and the Monkees. The two things that ended up getting you banned because you didn't follow the rules about was bringing outside fights to TMNT-L and Politics. Both were things listed in the rules of TMNT-L, that was with the forum before Fugitoid took it over in 2005.

Sorry you think there was anything personal there. I just can't let even friends break the rules, they were there for a reason.

Oh dear Roseangelo, you can't help yourself in coming out to lie about me? Fine, I've stayed quiet about this long enough.

Roseangelo and I use to be friends, can you all believe it? But in late 1997 she got into some personal drama with another friend of ours, and I refused to take sides. I felt that the friends that should've had the debate were both adults and could make up their minds knowing the facts for themselves. But that drama grew so big that the chat room we were a part of got split right down the middle.. and many left. Myself and 3 others never took sides in this fight, and each of us were hurt by Rose afterwards. She left the chat room in 1998, but we stayed in touch till 2000... when she did a website full of lies about me for holding a booth at a convention to bring back the Turtles.

Those lies included that I was doing it so there would be more TMNT stuff for me to buy; If that was the case why is my real collecting goal to get every item in the Turtle Treasury book? No one has everything from the early boom of the TMNT. The real reason I did it was because the TMNT helped me so much as a kid, and when I finally met other TMNT fans online I found how many other people that they helped, this is a media I did not want to see just vanish as I felt they could help future generations. To this day I meet fans who credit TMNT for helping them through are times, young and old. I have no regrets in holding the booths.

Another lie was that I was stealing from the donations, we raised $2,000 to hold the booth, the total cost was $3,000 in which I took a loan from my grandma to cover the extra cost. The booth made less than $300, which was used to start paying my Grandma back. My grandma was paid back in full by me, and we managed to hold the booth at the convention two more times. The reasons the first booth was so much money was I did not go into it wisely, I thought if we had merch to sell at the booth that the booth would pay for itself yearly. I had a lot of merch made up, and barely sold. So I was in the red, and it was my own mistake. One I learned from.

After this Rose and I stopped being friends. But unlike her I don't go reading all her stuff and attacking her every time a window opens up... in fact this is my first time sharing that much of our history here. Why? Because I got better things to do in my life than keep up with someone who hates me; but I'm sharing now because I am a bit tired of how much she attacks me and talks about me.

By the way everyone, Rose is the reason why I lurk on most groups including here. When she attacked me in 2000 I took it hard. I went quiet on TMNT-L, didn't join any other groups till around 2004. I joined Mikey's TMNT Forum and started getting active again on TMNT-L, at that point I asked myself why I let her chase me out of something I really enjoy. In 2005 the owner of TMNT-L was going a different directly so my friend Fugitoid and I took it up, till Fugitoid left the internet, so TMNT-L is down now.

I post and talk on mostly Facebook groups now (which I do not run), but I luck more than I post. I post on Instagram more than anywhere else, which isn't anyone's group. It's just sharing to share without being limited to a single group.

Now what have I done for the fandom?

I started out young going to events and was lucky enough to start to hang out at the studios. When the internet came around, I joined TMNT-L and met other TMNT fans. Including Rose. I informed all those fans of the Words & Pictures Museums, helping encourage other fans to get the chance to meet him and how he would go to those parties. People from TMNT-L did jump into this and got to meet Kevin, and I even arranged a tour of Mirage Studios for those that went in 1999.

I have held booths at conventions, loaned parts of my collections to exhibits, and even volunteered in 2009 to go across country with the TMNT 25th anniversary tour where I went to each stops and the crew would send TMNT fans to me to answer the questions they didn't know. When TMNT-L was around I would post convention updates around the world for people to know which TMNT guests where coming to their area and when. And often I carry autographed TMNT cards or comics on me, which are given away randomly to TMNT fans I meet on the street. I've helped fans build their collections, meet their favorite guests, and even find other friends in the fandom. I've helped guests get into conventions, and even brought some guests out of hiding to where they are now part of the convention guest lists.

Am I really disabled?

Seems to be questioned here.. and I'm attacked for it, as if I can hold a real job. I have a condition called CRPS. I was injured 20 years ago, which destroyed so much of my life and has caused me major depression. The nerve damage I have is not something you can see just by looking at me, unless you know what to look for. My right arm is losing bone and muscles. If it was just the pain in my arm, maybe then I could hold a job. Though I go through non epileptic seizures which can last anywhere from one hour to seven hours... I have full memory and am fully aware during these attacks. I can't talk, need help with breathing, can't walk or even sit up. I can't even hold a drink during these attacks. I have anywhere from 2 to 4 a week... 3 is normal.

What are triggers for these attacks? Cold, wind, touch, vibration, and stress are the biggest ones we've come to realize. Do the attacks happen right away after a trigger? No, like I can go swimming but I know within 2 to 3 days I will have an attack because I went swimming.

Have I lost stuff I really wanted to do because of this? ALL THE TIME... here's an example, I worked for a mascot company before I was injured and they got the rights to do TMNT appearances right after I was injured. They called me up only a few weeks later asking me to take part and I told them what happened to me... that was in 2004. In 2007 they called me again asking if I was healed yet, I told them no and they said they have a gig they wanted me to do... it was for the White House, I still had to say no because I won't have an attack in a costume in front of kids.

Why haven't I sold the collection? First of all, it's a big part of my anti depressant. Second in 2014 Nickelodeon started talks with me about doing a real TMNT Museum... yes, more than one conversation was had. Though my father was ill so I couldn't move for a museum as long as he needed me. In 2020 my dad passed away, but COVID also hit. I haven't had any talks with Nickelodeon since then. Though a part of me still hopes it could become a reality some day (and yes, I have read what some have said here on this forum about the museum ; I still believe it can happen).

Am I trying to find another income to get off of disability. Oh Hell yeah! I hate this fixed income stuff. I always worked 2 to 3 jobs before I was hurt. So not only am I still hoping for a museum, but I am working on my own si-fi book novel. It's an alien story and I have already written 6 books. I can't wait to publish the first book, which I have worked very hard on. I am getting a head of myself, so that my CRPS won't make me fall behind in publishing after book one is released.

Conventions; They are my anti depressant. I tried quitting a few but friends found out and they were the ones who offered to pay. I have been to a handful of conventions this year, but no friend paid for them as I managed to not only get badges for myself and my sister, but also friends in ways where no one had to spend money on those badges. At most a friend helped with gas/hotel for Fanboy Expo, but I got his badge for him and a group photo with the guests. And I had help from some friends for gas to London Comic Con. I don't twist any ones arm, and often try to do something in return for their help.

Okay... so I wrote a bit of a novel here... sorry about that. RE, I never saw you as an enemy, just someone who hates rules. It was never anything personal on my side.

Rose... it's been over 20 years since we been friends... okay, we get it, you hate me. But don't you have anything better to do with your time? Let it go and move on... stop feeling you need to attack me, every time someone mentions me here.

The GoFundMe is for those who want to help... it's not something I'm going and posting on any forums or groups.. my mother is running it... I shared it on my personal FB page and my Instagram page. Those are the only two places that I will personally share the link. It's hard asking for help, we HATE doing it, and even tried to get through this move without asking. We're hoping once this move is over we'll finally be able to breath for the first time since 2014.

[Mad Dog McMutt]

It's nice to see this legend make a post on here in the modern day. I think that you're awesome Michelle! Don't stop being you.

[ZariusTwo]

That feature was the talk of the town when it went viral, good memories. Happy to know Ivy hasn't grown out of her hobbies or habits like a lot of super collectors.

[CyberCubed]

It's hilarious there is fandom drama here going back 25-30 years from people who are now pushing 50 years old in real life. :lol:

[IMJ]

Wow! Someone named Josh has deep pockets and donated 50 dollars to help her!

Must be a crypto investor..... :lol: Very cool though.

[d_osborn]

Small private collection museums simply aren't feasible. If they were, every other collector would have one. The closest thing that we'll ever see to a dedicated, permanent TMNT museum is Rancho Obi Wan, and I'm pretty sure Steve Sansweet is pretty independently wealthy.

Now smaller touring museum exhibits would be cool, but I honestly don't think she has the collection to do it. Now TMNT prop guru Geoff, that's a museum exhibit I'd go see.

A good friend of mine is going through a similar sounding scenario-- paying monthly storage units to house a nerd collection while his life and finances are circling the toilet drain. There's a relief valve his younger self purchased that could be auctioned, but instead he wants to lose his home. It's very sad.

[IMJ]

Small private collection museums simply aren't feasible.

Exactly. Stuff like that is best for old fansites and even those have been taken over by places like HobbyDB.....

[Coola Yagami]

It's hilarious there is fandom drama here going back 25-30 years from people who are now pushing 50 years old in real life. :lol:

Part of it is because the Turtles never really went away. Sure we had that hiatus between what...98 and 2003? Once the 2K3 show started, we never had a long break between cartoons, movies, toylines, videogames and whatnot.

I always figured I'd eventually grow out of TMNT and other stuff and I imagine had the Turtles just... died and was stuck being a product of the 80's/early 90's I might have. But they keep going and stuff like cool action figures, TMNT videogames and the 80's based comics just keep bringing me back.

Same with stuff like Street Fighter, King of Fighters, etc. Decades later and they're still here, and they still have my attention.


Honestly for a while there it felt like most videogames were gonna be FPS-types, and I was about to hop off the train unless there were like... retro game re-releases. Thankfully Street Fighter 4 brought back fighting games and beat-em-ups got back in the style the last few years.

Back on topic, I want to say I ran into Ivey at either Steelcity Con or Sci Fi Valley Con a few years back. Maybe. I know I ran into a fellow Drome member. Only she can confirm if she recalls ever being at one of those cons but I coulda sworn the woman told me her name was Ivey.

[CyberCubed]

This thread is so old that two of the people who posted in 2008 are dead in real life (Buslady and Cure), and some of those other users might be dead too. Weird to think forums are an archive of someones life now.

[Coola Yagami]

This thread is so old that two of the people who posted in 2008 are dead in real life (Buslady and Cure), and some of those other users might be dead too. Weird to think forums are an archive of someone's life now.

Wtf???? Though Cure was the um... very bad person right?

Also what did that Goku guy do? He was before my time but I know that he tarnished the name so bad that no one was ever allowed to sign up with a variation of Goku in their user name ever again.

[Andrew NDB]

Wtf???? Though Cure was the um... very bad person right?

No, that was... I'm blanking on his nick here now. "Goober" or something. Gobo? Was a pedo and died under weird or unknown circumstances after being sentenced or something such, if I recall.

Also what did that Goku guy do?

As best as I can tell just kept making outrageous posts. When there was like 16 mods here banning everyone for anything, he just kept getting banned and coming back under a new nick. I think he began somewhat innocuous but then he just started to revel in doing it. Because anyone coming back under a nick after a ban is... an automatic ban.

He was before my time

I don't think he was. You definitely were here for his later incarnations, at least.

[Coola Yagami]

No, that was... I'm blanking on his nick here now. "Goober" or something. Gobo? Was a pedo and died under weird or unknown circumstances after being sentenced or something such, if I recall.

-ah that was the guy, yes. Gobo or something.

As best as I can tell just kept making outrageous posts. When there was like 16 mods here banning everyone for anything, he just kept getting banned and coming back under a new nick. I think he began somewhat innocuous but then he just started to revel in doing it. Because anyone coming back under a nick after a ban is... an automatic ban.

- yep, they call that ban evasion

I don't think he was. You definitely were here for his later incarnations, at least.

Hmm I must not have been paying attention or never have dealt with him directly.

[CyberCubed]

It's safe to agree the drome has seen its share of sickos over the years. It's basically a proven fact many people who are terminal online have mental health issues in real life.

[IndigoErth]

A good friend of mine is going through a similar sounding scenario-- paying monthly storage units to house a nerd collection while his life and finances are circling the toilet drain. There's a relief valve his younger self purchased that could be auctioned, but instead he wants to lose his home. It's very sad.

That's a shame. I wouldn't fault anyone for keeping their most favorite pieces, most of us would...but I feel like favorites wouldn't usually be thrown into storage. Push come to shove, if things are dire but nothing would be given up, that's a bit hoarder-ish then. And if a storage unit is lost, then some other person gets the contents and all the say on what becomes of it. :ohwell:

Admittedly, I wouldn't have an easy time parting with stuff either (heck, in general I don't), but if it's stuff that's actually kinda rare and desirable to others (that I don't really have any of) and I was in a bad place, then yeah, I'd rather maybe help myself by letting go of the ones that aren't top faves and see them go to people who'd appreciate and take care of them, rather than risk losing it all AND my own situation.

On a bad day, TMNT and my stuff makes me feel good too, but I don't need ALL of it in order to feel it...

[IveyAngelo]

Back on topic, I want to say I ran into Ivey at either Steelcity Con or Sci Fi Valley Con a few years back. Maybe. I know I ran into a fellow Drome member. Only she can confirm if she recalls ever being at one of those cons but I coulda sworn the woman told me her name was Ivey.

Hiya, it had to be Sci Fi Valley Con in 2022. I was having a hard time that weekend because my friend who was supposed to help us run the booth we had was just found to have AML and admitted into the hospital. So I had a green book I was carrying around to get signed by guests and friends for him which I started at that convention. So I was deff there and did meet fellow TMNT fans, all four the original Turtles were guests that weekend.

I remember helping one fan who only could afford going through Townsend's line, I mentioned she should could go up and just say hi to the others without buying from them. But when we got down to see them, they already left for the day and it was her only day there. I managed to help her meet each of the others, they were all so sweet to her. It was a good convention.

[d_osborn]

That's a shame. I wouldn't fault anyone for keeping their most favorite pieces, most of us would...but I feel like favorites wouldn't usually be thrown into storage. Push come to shove, if things are dire but nothing would be given up, that's a bit hoarder-ish then. And if a storage unit is lost, then some other person gets the contents and all the say on what becomes of it. :ohwell:

Exactly, creating a whole new stress point for someone that honestly doesn't need it. When the stuff becomes a source of stress instead of enjoyment, what are you doing? Are you a fan of the media, or are you a fan of the physical objects? Bragging rights? It's a shame, and I wish both my personal friend and Ivey peace.

Collecting is fun, but it's not a reliable coping mechanism. I need to keep telling myself this, as well. New mantra.

[Coola Yagami]

Hiya, it had to be Sci Fi Valley Con in 2022. I was having a hard time that weekend because my friend who was supposed to help us run the booth we had was just found to have AML and admitted into the hospital. So I had a green book I was carrying around to get signed by guests and friends for him which I started at that convention. So I was deff there and did meet fellow TMNT fans, all four the original Turtles were guests that weekend.

I remember helping one fan who only could afford going through Townsend's line, I mentioned she should could go up and just say hi to the others without buying from them. But when we got down to see them, they already left for the day and it was her only day there. I managed to help her meet each of the others, they were all so sweet to her. It was a good convention.

Hmm mighta been someone else then. This would have been maybe 2012-2014 or so when I was still new-ish to PA. We were both looking through boxes of random 80's TMNT action figures. She mentioned the Drome and I was like 'yo you're on the Technodrome forums too?' and had a bit of small talk before we both parted ways. That year didn't really have any TMNT-related guests that I recall.

[Andrew NDB]

I saw this update today:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DCrxrrkyW_0/?igsh=MTZpcnNwNWV5cmN0OA==

[IMJ]

:lol: I forgot about "Cure" and "Goku".

I saw this update today:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DCrxrrkyW_0/?igsh=MTZpcnNwNWV5cmN0OA==

Bro I started watching that and had to shake myself out of it around "...radical rat..." and close the window as I realized I was losing moments of my life to it. Still though - definitely not as bad as skinny-twig-Instagram-guy who ordered his enemy by name to return his girlfriend while anime-posing and ended the video by blowing his stank breath on the camera as if it was hot fire or something.

See - look, I want good things for people as much as possible. But that doesn't mean I want to see that weirdo $#!( nor interact with it either.

[Coola Yagami]

She looks rather unhealthy; I wonder if she'll die before Peter Laird does, who is also looking mighty frail lately.
I'm willing to do an avatar bet on this.

Kind of a.... morbid thing to think about...

[d_osborn]

:lol:
Bro I started watching that and had to shake myself out of it around "...radical rat..." and close the window as I realized I was losing moments of my life to it.
She could probably have a decently successful Patreon following if she didn't start all of her videos with... that.

Imagine that, creating content, sharing her collection and earning decent money without a constant GoFundMe.

[Mad Dog McMutt]

I saw this update today:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DCrxrrkyW_0/?igsh=MTZpcnNwNWV5cmN0OA==
What is on that link? I don't have Instagram so I can't see it.

[IMJ]

She looks rather unhealthy; I wonder if she'll die before Peter Laird does, who is also looking mighty frail lately.
I'm willing to do an avatar bet on this.

If she does you might get a refund on your donation!

She could probably have a decently successful Patreon following if she didn't start all of her videos with... that.

Imagine that, creating content, sharing her collection and earning decent money without a constant GoFundMe.

Yup. That's the thing about making it to "superfan status" for any I.P. It's just glorified social-clout near the bottom of the social-swimming-pool. To actually have it matter you have to create something with it beyond a marketing op to sell shirts in a rented convention space. Again, I don't know this girl and I don't begrudge her anything at all - I'm just commenting on the patterns....

[Hamato Yoshi]

Kind of a.... morbid thing to think about...

Not-morbid-thing.....more-of-an-***hole-thing-to-think-about :roll:

[CyberCubed]

Most of the older TMNT fans are basically middle age now. In a few more years they will be 50+

This is what happens with old people.

[IndigoErth]

Thank goodness we have Cubed here to explain ageing, else we might accidently stay young. :twink:

[Andrew NDB]

Yup. That's the thing about making it to "superfan status" for any I.P. It's just glorified social-clout near the bottom of the social-swimming-pool. To actually have it matter you have to create something with it beyond a marketing op to sell shirts in a rented convention space. Again, I don't know this girl and I don't begrudge her anything at all - I'm just commenting on the patterns....

She created Cowabungle Corner and TMNT-L, right? Those are still around, I think.

[CyberCubed]

I read through all the youtube comments on that video, they're hilarious. Even scarier is that this video is now 13 years old...

[IveyAngelo]

Yup. That's the thing about making it to "superfan status" for any I.P. It's just glorified social-clout near the bottom of the social-swimming-pool.

Never went after no "superfan status", I do what I do out of passion not a title. While I did try selling shirts at the Turtle Con booth in 2000, which main goal was to help keep TMNT going, the shirts was to pay for the booth in future years not put money in my pocket.. though I did express in an earlier post that I did not make any money on that event.... so not sure what pattern you're going off of by saying selling shirts...

The only reason I was ever on TV was because a friend at Mirage Studios recommended me to be on a collector show back in 2004, and that's how VH1 got a hold of me. Before that I didn't really post under my name online, and people knew me online as Donatello, Michaelangelo, or IveyAngelo. I was not even the first TMNT fan I knew to be on a collector show, Roseangelo was on one before we even met. I never thought a collector show would keep going viral the way the VH1 show has.

Now to say those who do things out of passion need to create stuff isn't really true. People can enjoy their passion and keep it to themselves and still just be as epic of a fan as the loud spoken fans. I know people with super large collections, that are known by the studios, but do not post on message boards or go to events. This does not make that person any less of a fan. No fan owes anything to the other fans, we're all equal. Some fans are just louder than others, and those who do stuff for the entire fandom is doing it because they want too, not because they have to.

There are those out there seeking a title, I know some. They normally come into meeting fellow fans as a competition, wanting to know what you own, how much the value, ect... then there's the fans who do it just because of their pure passion. A calling. Because every time they think they can walk another road, they find themselves smack in the middle of the next adventure with the passion that is holding them. A great example here is Tokka, a huge TMNT fan, his passion is so clear and his collection is really epic. He volunteers so much of his time posting his collection to the internet, many people use his archive of pictures that he's posted online through the years. He only wishes people would give him credit for his work of archiving and scanning these images, but he does it because of his love of the franchise. He's not doing what he does for a title, or because he owes anything. He's just being himself and sharing.

You don't know me, but if you ever want to. I am around, and I see everyone as a friend unless they prove otherwise. I'm open, always happy to meet fellow TMNT fans. I feel all fans are equal, a lesson Roseangelo taught me in 1996 when I did post a challenge on TMNT-L, to see who was the biggest TMNT fan... the challenge was to go to the Words & Pictures Museum for a 50/50 chance of meeting Kevin Eastman at the yearly membership party.. she wrote me saying not all fans can afford to do trips like that, and it can't be judged in such a manor. I agree with her, and dropped the challenge. But still promoted the event for anyone interested in going. Kevin Eastman and Julie Strain were both at the event that year. I still promote events online that I see TMNT people are going to, if I can make it or not. And I never did a challenge like that or any other again, instead I stand by the lesson that all fans are equal as I love that. You can't really judge passion.

She created Cowabungle Corner and TMNT-L, right? Those are still around, I think.

I did create Cowabunga Corner in 2010, and am hopefully going to be able to get it going again, after we settle into this house and the move is over (yes we're still working on the move). When I did Cowabunga Corner patron was not around, though I have been looking into it for when we pick up Cowabunga Corner again. I'm also working on other projects as I want a real income. Cowabunga Corner went quiet a few years ago because of hackers taking out the website. I still run the instagram, and the videos are still on YouTube. I am working on bringing the website back when we get things going again.

Now TMNT-L I did not create. TMNT-L was created by a man name Jonathan back in 1995. He ran ninjaturtles.com before Mirage Studios took over the URL for their website in January 1996. I found the website shortly after it was created and that's where I learned to join TMNT-L, which was using an email program called listserv, which is where the L in the title comes from. There was only 15 members when I joined, with about 1 email a week. In 1996 we started to get more members, including Shredder, who took over TMNT-L when Jonathan stepped down. TMNT-L went through many changes through these years, including being a Yahoo group and it's first message board. In 2005 Shredder wanted to go a different way with the message board, going with a full 80's theme for shows like Ghostbusters and ThunderCats. I asked if I could take the name TMNT-L, to keep it a TMNT message board. And with the help of another TMNT fan, named Fugitoid the TMNT-L message board was made. Fugitoid was the admin, and I was just one of the moderators on the forum (usually had the not so fun job of speaking up when people broke rules). The TMNT-L forum was around till 2018 when Fugitoid disappeared from the picture.

I am working to try and get the archives from TMNT-L, if anything it's to preserve the posts from some of the fans who've passed away like Cynlee, Buslady, Klork and Crittle to name a few. Their reviews, event posts, fanfictions, and so much more should still be up there for others to read if they want to. I hope to some day get it up there, even if it is only a read only site. It's good to keep their memories alive.

I do have something in the works for TMNT-L to return again, though life has not allowed me to follow through with these plans yet. It went from 1995 to 2018, I would love to see some life back in the old group. There is a Facebook page and group for the forum, but those are very quiet.

I read through all the youtube comments on that video, they're hilarious. Even scarier is that this video is now 13 years old...

Heh even scarier to think that it's really 20 years old now. The show was filmed on June 5th, 6th and 7th 2004 and aired on VH1 in August 2004. It first appeared on the internet in early 2007.

I do agree some of the comments are really funny. I've had fun with commenters before, back when the show was new I did a search and found a message board talking about the show and a news paper story about me. I read through about 15 pages of people talking about me, and mocking the video. I laughed a LOT, then wrote up a fun reply answering all of their questions. They were shocked that I saw their posts, let alone replied. I even had to take a picture of myself holding the name of their forum to prove I was really me. They were amused that I joked and laughed with them, and did not get angry. But I feel anyone judging that show is picking on the character VH1 made up, that's not really me. So I can laugh with them.

For those who want to see how that show was made, my dad followed them around with a video camera when they were filming and I did an episode of Cowabunga Corner covering the behind the scenes of Totally Obsessed.

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Yes, I have read through the other comments... I agree me singing is awful at the beginning of the lives... but it's better than sitting there going... "I'm just waiting for people to show up.... hang on..." or sitting in quiet for a minute... it took me awhile of doing lives to realize I want to do something during that buffer time... but if you watch Cowabunga Corner episodes you see I don't sing at the intro ever. So yup, can totally understand not liking that.

Though those picking on my health... I openly admit that I am disabled. I was injured on October 26th, 2004 and got a condition known as CRPS. Some days are good, some are not. When I'm over worked, like I am now trying to move, I have more bad days than good ones. So yes, I don't look healthy. It's because of how many attacks I am going through. I've been going through this health problem for 20 years now. I use to try and hide videos of me sick and hurting, but I stopped hiding it around 2016. Still it's disappointing to see people using one's health as a reason to pick on them.

I saw Peter mentioned in that very post... he's not hiding that he's having a hard time but he's still going out there to see fans. We as the fans should be supportive, and thrilled that he cares enough to not hide away.

Hmm mighta been someone else then. This would have been maybe 2012-2014 or so when I was still new-ish to PA.

Oh yeah, most likely was not me. I normally go to events by guest lists and friend meet ups. Around that time I was heavy into giving out autograph cards to fellow fans when I would meet them at conventions, so that's one way to know if it was me. I usually would ask who's your favorite Turtle and which series is your favorite and if I had an autograph connected to either of those, I would gift it to the fans that I meet. I still try to do that, but my card stack is getting low so I don't do it as often right now. Though it was most likely not me.

I do hope you bump into the Ivy/Ivey that you met there. It's always fun reconnecting with fellow fans :)

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Never went after no "superfan status", I do what I do out of passion not a title.

I think you interpreted my comment with some negativity in mind. But instead it was an observation of experience - I've been involved in various Iron Man stuff myself over the years that most people probably don't know about.

My point was only, from experience, that being recognized as a "super fan" only really goes one of two ways - it is either eye rolling to most people or you roll with it and try to add to your corner of the hobby in some dignified way.

That's all.

[IveyAngelo]

My point was only, from experience, that being recognized as a "super fan" only really goes one of two ways - it is either eye rolling to most people or you roll with it and try to add to your corner of the hobby in some dignified way.

That's all.

In that case, replace "super fan" with any passion, hobby and/or career. Everyone is judged no matter their choice in life, and there's not one field that gets 100% understanding from the masses. It's the best and worse thing about our world, if we were all the same the world would be boring as ever.

I was at the bottom of the social-swimming-pool in my area before I ever heard of Ninja Turtles back in the 80's. Learned fast that what other people think of me doesn't matter as long as I'm doing my best with my life, and no one was being hurt. You can never please everyone, so do your best for your close friends and family, and don't take much offence to those who don't understand.

Na, no real negative. I just explained my view of the fandom that we're all equal. Some loud, some not so loud. And I agree with you that people will be judged, but I just say don't do this kind of stuff if you're worried about what people think of you.

It's cool that you're deep into Iron Man, everyone has their areas. Marvels a fun one. I enjoy the movies and shows, and a friend of mine lets me read their comics from time to time.

[Andrew NDB]

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[ToTheNines]

Haha, the goat is back

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Though those picking on my health... I openly admit that I am disabled. I was injured on October 26th, 2004 and got a condition known as CRPS.

I haven't seen anyone picking on your health.

I've seen people pointing out that you routinely ask for money instead of selling pieces of your collection.

A bit more clearly: you want others to help you before you help yourself.

[IveyAngelo]

I haven't seen anyone picking on your health.

So you missed the post where they were saying that I could die before Peter Laird? It's not too far back.


I've seen people pointing out that you routinely ask for money instead of selling pieces of your collection.

A bit more clearly: you want others to help you before you help yourself.

It's funny that everyone attacks this, like "The only thing you should do is sell", without knowing me, what I do, or how many other people I help. It all comes down to "sell! Sell! Sell!" Those who know me tell me I better not sell my collection, so I will listen to those who know me instead of people who just see a collection and put dollar signs over it.

I spend a lot of my time helping other people, so I don't mind asking for help from time to time when things come up. And no I don't ask for help every time things come up. But at the same time my family has moved people in off the street, helped families with their bills and holidays, and done so much more through the years.

I also don't go around on forums and groups and ask for help.. I ask on my Facebook and Instagram accounts. Which have friends who were asking if there was ways to help, knowing what my family is going through. And knowing how much we bend over backwards to help other people in need.

And the best thing I can do when I help, is try to make it so people don't lose stuff that means something to them. Instead, see if they can keep their life even when bad things happen.

So yes.. the collection is not up for sale. And yes, I am willing to ask my friends for help... and at the same time, I am willing to help my friends when they need help. I've donated to GoFundMe, I've taken part in Kickstarters, I've helped people move, I've got people out of situations that were killing them, and I've given rides to people who've lost their cars. I will always help when I can.

And that's how I live, when my friends need me I'm there. And I don't care if they got something they could sell to fix their problem. Money is not everything, and I've watched people sell things and the money disappear just as fast as it appears. The regret they go through, then spending even more money to buy the same item, or not be able to get it back because it was one of a kind.

The world is a better place when people help each other.

But that's up to each person if they feel that way or not.

[d_osborn]

So you missed the post where they were saying that I could die before Peter Laird? It's not too far back.
You are correct, that was incredibly uncouth of them.


The world is a better place when people help each other.

But that's up to each person if they feel that way or not.

I think the term you're after is "enabler". Once or twice is help, any more is a bad pattern.

A collection should not out-weigh the collector's quality of life.

[Andrew NDB]

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