10 year old girl gives birth

[Raph's Girl]

Saw this on the news... This occured in Idaho!

http://www.kidk.com/news/local/18706089.html

It's an unbelievable story that has an entire community in shock.

Several sources confirm a 10-year-old girl from St. Anthony gave birth to a little girl on Saturday at Madison Memorial Hospital in Rexburg.

The girl was allegedly raped by 37-year-old Guadalupe Gutierrez-Juarez. Gutierrez-Juaraz is an illegal immigrant who is in the Fremont County Jail on rape charges.

Gutierrez-Juarez was arrested April 29th after medical personnel alerted police that a pregnant child had come in for treatment. That child is now one of the youngest mothers in Idaho.

Counselor Matt Christensen has worked with sexually abused kids for over 10 years. Although he has nothing to do with this specific case, he's seen pregnancies affect other teenagers.

Matt Christensen, Counselor: "Children go through development stages and when something seriously traumatic hits, they tend to stop the development phases at that point."

It's unclear who will take custody of the newborn, what will happen to the ten year old, and if Gutierrez-Juarez will face charges.

The St. Anthony police department is still conducting an investigation against Gutierrez-Juaraz so officers did not want to comment on the case. They say more details may be released later.

Gutierrez-Juarez is being held on 250 thousand dollars bond. Even if he did post the required amount, he would not be released because he is an illegal immigrant.

[Ra]

Man, that's just screwed up. Really screwed up.

[Jester]

Must fight urge to be political.....little girl involved, more important than political crap.....

Ahhhh!!! I can't do it!!! Read if you muct

But they only come here to do the jobs that we Americans won't do. You know I'm wondering why we won't. Could it be that we have an entitlememnt minded populas that thinks they are to good to do these very esential but also very menial jobs. I'd like to think so. Although I must admit this is one instance and that not all illegals commit other crimes (because the way the country was the first) but this will cause a fire storm from people even more right of center than me who will jump on this as a way of saying that all illegals need to be deported. Man what a mess. Poor girl. I hope they nail the bastard.

[Mars-Chan]

*eye twitch* He...I...*eye twitch*

Let me just say this much...I hope this guy gets what's coming to him.

[Swany]

I didn't even think that was biologically possible.

And I hope that guy is locked up for life.

[Mecha Cow]

This is why I'm pro-choice. Just nasty.

[Raph's Girl]

I didn't even think that was biologically possible.


It is.. last year several 9 year olds in South America and Asia gave birth. And in 2006 a 10 year old Belgian girl gave birth. The father in that case was 13.

http://www.dailycognition.com/index.php/2007/10/03/10-year-old-gives-birth.html

This quote is just plain sad:

Yesterday the medical weekly De Huisarts reported that 57 Belgian 10-year-olds had been prescribed a birth control pill last year. Some for medical reasons, but others for actual birth control.

But the earliest recorded age is a 5 year old Peruvian girl in 1939.

U can see a picture of her here:
http://www.snopes.com/pregnant/medina.asp

[The Shelf]

This is why I'm pro-choice. Just nasty.

It would be interesting to see what percentage of abortions are in response to a rape.

[Revan]

But they only come here to do the jobs that we Americans won't do. You know I'm wondering why we won't. Could it be that we have an entitlememnt minded populas that thinks they are to good to do these very esential but also very menial jobs. I'd like to think so. Although I must admit this is one instance and that not all illegals commit other crimes (because the way the country was the first) but this will cause a fire storm from people even more right of center than me who will jump on this as a way of saying that all illegals need to be deported. Man what a mess. Poor girl. I hope they nail the bastard.
me next
I'm not defending this sick bastard but deporting all illegals is not the answer. Legal americans rape little children too. It's the sick truth of the world. Illegals do jobs no one else will and they cannot claim money from the government.

[BubblyShell22]

Wow! Poor kid. I hope that guy gets what he deserves. No one should have to go through that at such a young age.

[OA]

But the earliest recorded age is a 5 year old Peruvian girl in 1939.

U can see a picture of her here:
http://www.snopes.com/pregnant/medina.asp

That is absolutely incredible!! :o

[Spitfire]

me next
I'm not defending this sick bastard but deporting all illegals is not the answer. Legal americans rape little children too. It's the sick truth of the world. Illegals do jobs no one else will and they cannot claim money from the government.

Not that I think the "white race" is superior or anything but I know most of these people will be illegal.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23200414-38198,00.html?from=public_rss

[METALHEAD]

what now? theyre blaming illegal imigrants on this? wow....right okay....anything to shoot down my mexican race....america isnt as great as it used to be....thats really screwed up though....still i feel offended theyre blaming imigrants...dont get me wrong i was born in tx. i was just against the whole thing since day one when the white people try to blame mexicans---people forget that imigrants build this great country.....where i live lots of mexicans work in resterants....and build houses in like a week theyre fast workers and good workers.... america's going down the toilet cus of this stuff man.

[PAAATE]

I'm usually very open-minded and can take real nasty things light-heartedly.. But.. This..?

No.... No no no no no no no.........

If it wasn't from rape, but it was her own coice, then MAYBE I would have thought this was less wrong, but this is sick...

And "hope he gets what's coming".. How mature... Terrible act, yes, but what he needs is a psychological evaluation and then help, nothing else..

[Revan]

Not that I think the "white race" is superior or anything but I know most of these people will be illegal.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23200414-38198,00.html?from=public_rss
I've seen this figures before. Interesting. I have not really noticed any difference since I live in South Dakota but as time goes on, america is becoming more and more diverse

[Ninjinister]

That child is now one of the youngest mothers in Idaho

That child is now one of the youngest mothers in Idaho

That child is now one of the youngest mothers in Idaho

one of the youngest


The fact that she isn't the youngest in Idaho sends chills down my spine.

[Jester]

Ahhh, Idaho. Glad I left when I did. :P

[poiuytre]

That's such a sad story. I hope everything will work out for the mother and her child. I don't think abortion should ever be an option tho.

The fact that she isn't the youngest in Idaho sends chills down my spine.
Wow, I didn't even realise that. :(

[GK Punk]

Just a reminder, this isn't the place to debate abortion nor deportation.

[Warhorse]

Must fight urge to be political.....little girl involved, more important than political crap.....

Ahhhh!!! I can't do it!!! Read if you muct

But they only come here to do the jobs that we Americans won't do. You know I'm wondering why we won't. Could it be that we have an entitlememnt minded populas that thinks they are to good to do these very esential but also very menial jobs. I'd like to think so. Although I must admit this is one instance and that not all illegals commit other crimes (because the way the country was the first) but this will cause a fire storm from people even more right of center than me who will jump on this as a way of saying that all illegals need to be deported. Man what a mess. Poor girl. I hope they nail the bastard.

In responce to your political views.
I'm from Florida, where we have the sugar cane farms and orange groves. And this is the deal here. The illegal immigrants aren't doing the work that Americans won't do (how many non illegals you see cleaning out garbage trucks and land fills, mind you, alot) but they are doing jobs that tax abiding Americans cannot do because the wages are so poor, and they can't live of off 2.50 an hour. And I always look at it like this, in the past, farmers used slaves to do the work, and once slavery was abolished, they had to turn to the next cheaper option, and that's untitles illegals. Hiring Americans would be too costly. But this is my opnion of course.

[Mecha Cow]

Just a reminder, this isn't the place to debate abortion nor deportation.
Oh yeah, just to be clear I had no intention of getting into the subject when I brought it up; I know from experience that those discussions never, ever end well. x_X

[愛]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/TheFatedBattle/pedobearsealom3et2.png?

[GK Punk]

Oh yeah, just to be clear I had no intention of getting into the subject when I brought it up; I know from experience that those discussions never, ever end well. x_X

Yeah no worries dude, I just have to say it before anything like that happens.

[Raph's Girl]

Now what's REALLY sad is there's actually a list of the youngest mothers...another sad thing is that there's so many of em the Guiness Book of World Records has stopped counting.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers

Age 5

1939: Lina Medina of Paurange, Peru gave birth to a 2.7 kg son (5.9 lb), Gerardo, by caesarean section on May 14, 1939 in Lima at the age of 5 years, 7 months and 21 days. Her parents, who assumed their daughter had a tumor, took her to a hospital, where she was determined to be seven months pregnant. Although Medina's father was arrested on suspicion of rape, he was later released due to lack of evidence, and the identity of who impregnated Medina was never uncovered. The reason for her precocious fertility was cited to not lie in the ovaries themselves, but to must have stemmed from an extraordinary hormonal disorder of pituitary origin, causing her to have regular periods since the age of 3

Age 8

2006: A girl from Huánuco, Peru, gave birth to a baby weighing 2 kg (4.4 lb) by caesarean section at a hospital in Lima in December 2006. Her ninth birthday occurred a couple of days later. She became pregnant after being raped by two of her cousins.[2][3]

Age 9

1957: Hilda Trujillo gave birth to a girl weighing over 6 lb (2.7 kg) at a hospital in Lima, Peru in December 1957. Her 22-year-old cousin, who was staying in her family's one-room house at the time, was arrested for rape.

2004: A Singaporean girl gave birth to a boy in 2004 after being impregnated by a fellow student at her school. Her mother initially thought she had a urinary tract infection, but, upon taking her to the doctor, learned she was already six months pregnant. The baby was given up for adoption.

2005: A girl gave birth to a baby boy by caesarean section at a hospital in Butare, Rwanda in December 2005. The child, who underwent breast development at age six and menarche at age eight, became pregnant after being raped by her family's domestic servant.

2006: A girl of the Apurinã, an indigenous people from the Amazon Rainforest in Brazil, gave birth to a baby girl weighing 2.2 kg (4.8 lb) by caesarean section at a hospital in Manaus in July 2006. Police are investigating the case.

2007: A girl from La Esperanza, Intibucá, Honduras gave birth to a baby girl by caesarean section in May 2007 after being raped by her father.

Age 10

1834: Sally Deweese of Butler County, Kentucky was reported by Dr. D. Rowlett to have delivered a baby girl weighing 7.75 lb (3.5 kg) on April 20, 1834. Deweese allegedly developed breasts within weeks of birth and began menstruating at 12 months.

2000: A girl from Bolivia gave birth to a baby girl weighing 2.5 kg (5.5 lb) by caesarean section at a hospital in Parque Patricios, Buenos Aires, Argentina on September 25, 2007. A 28-year-old was arrested on a charge of rape.

2005: A girl from Calama, Chile gave birth to a baby boy by caesarean section at a hospital in Antofagasta on April 13, 2005. The child became pregnant after having been raped by her father at age nine. Her parents, who both came from Bolivia, were jailed.

2005: A girl gave birth to a baby girl at a hospital in Sion, Switzerland in August 2005. She had immigrated to Switzerland from Cameroon with her siblings when her mother married a Swiss citizen. A 68-year-old man who was in a relationship with the mother admitted to having molested the girl but a DNA test found that he was not the father of the girl's child.

2006: A girl in Abbeville, South Carolina gave birth by caesarean section in 2006 after having been raped by then-26-year-old William Edward Ronca. Ronca admitted to having molested the girl over a two year period and was sentenced to 25 years in prison as a result. The baby was given for adoption.

2006: A girl from Charleroi, Belgium gave birth in 2006. After the child began gaining weight, her mother put her on a diet, but when the girl visited a doctor, it was discovered that she was nine months pregnant. The father was a then-13-year-old boy who attended the same school as the girl. News of the birth did not become publicly known until 2007

2006: A girl from Jaral del Progreso, Guanajuato, Mexico gave birth naturally to a baby girl weighing 2.3 kg (5 lb) on April 3, 2006. She became pregnant after being raped by a 47-year-old neighbour, who was sentenced to 11 years, 6 months in prison for the crime.

2007: A girl from San Lorenzo Cacaotepec, Oaxaca, Mexico gave birth to a baby boy on July 2, 2007. Her pregnancy was the result of a rape committed by the 65-year-old landlord of the house which her parents rented. The man was jailed.

2008: In Rexburg, Idaho, a girl gave birth to a six-pound baby at Madison Memorial Hospital. A 37-year-old has been charged with the rape of the ten-year-old.

Age 11

1972: A girl gave birth at the age of 11 years, 10 months at Royal Buckinghamshire Hospital in Aylesbury, England. The father was the young girl's stepbrother.

2002: A girl from Bridgeport, Connecticut gave birth after being raped by a 75-year-old man, who was arrested on April 17, 2002.

2004: A girl gave birth to a baby boy weighing 8.4 lb (3.8 kg) at a hospital in Kharkiv, Ukraine in January 2004. The girl, who is currently the youngest mother in Ukraine, is suspected to have been impregnated by a 26-year-old neighbor, who fled in the fear of facing prosecution.

2005: Valentina gave birth to a boy in Moscow, Russia, after she was impregnated by her 14-year-old boyfriend.

2006: A girl of African origin gave birth to a baby boy at a hospital in West London, United Kingdom on May 5, 2006. A 37-year-old man was arrested.

2007: A girl from Valhalla Park, Cape Town, South Africa gave birth to a baby boy on July 12, 2007. An elderly security guard was arrested in connection with rape. The mother will be allowed to visit her child once a month at the hospital

[Ninjinister]

There's something wrong with the world today
The lightbulb's gettin' dimmed
There's meltdown in the sky

[Revan]

it was always burnin since the world's been turnin

[Ra]

But we never started the fire, right?

But...a 5 year old mother? Now that's just sickening.

[poiuytre]

I thought a 5 year old mother would be biologically impossible. :o

[Ra]

No, it is. I've never heard of a 5 year old case before, but it is definately possible.

Ra's guide to the female body of a pre-teen.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/TheFatedBattle/pedobearsealom3et2.png

You usually are able to become...well, fertile once you get your periods. This means that your lining is up and ready to go for the egg to attach to and grow in. At my old primary school, a girl who only just turned eight started getting her periods, and everyone had to try and explain to her what the hell was going on with her body. If it can happen to an eight year old, I guess it could happen to a five year old. But why? Simple: genetic mutation.

Something tells me that our five year old mother has some gene inside of her allowing her to become fertile at a very early age for either more babies, or because there is some very bad signs only her body knows about, thus has allowed for the child to become pregnet early. It's just unfortunate at around this time, she got raped. Nature took place, and volia: you've got yourself a five year old that has a baby to support.

Now that I'm done reteaching my Biology lessons, I'm curious to hear what everyone else thinks about this: how could a five year old girl be biologically able to become pregnet?

[Raph's Girl]

Now that I'm done reteaching my Biology lessons, I'm curious to hear what everyone else thinks about this: how could a five year old girl be biologically able to become pregnet?

She has (Lina's still alive, her son died at the age of 40 of a brain tumor) a hormonal disorder called Precocious Puberty.. This seems to be the case for all these young mothers.

Years ago I heard that a 2 year old is capable of having a child because of this disorder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precocious_puberty

[Mecha Cow]

Now that I'm done reteaching my Biology lessons, I'm curious to hear what everyone else thinks about this: how could a five year old girl be biologically able to become pregnet?
Well, you just answered your own question, no? Genetic anomality. Isn't that the only thing it could be?

[ToTheNines]

But they only come here to do the jobs that we Americans won't do. You know I'm wondering why we won't. Could it be that we have an entitlememnt minded populas that thinks they are to good to do these very esential but also very menial jobs. I'd like to think so. Although I must admit this is one instance and that not all illegals commit other crimes (because the way the country was the first) but this will cause a fire storm from people even more right of center than me who will jump on this as a way of saying that all illegals need to be deported. Man what a mess. Poor girl. I hope they nail the bastard.

Meh, I'm white and I do "Mexican" work. But it's not that people think they're too good to do them, they are too good to do them (in a way), why mow lawns or work at BK when you can go to college and eventually get a pretty good pay check. Same thing goes for Mexicans, why rot in Mexico when you can come to America and make 7 bucks an hour.

On topic, this is sick, and homeboy is going to hell.

[Drtooth]

Must fight urge to be political.....little girl involved, more important than political crap.....

Ahhhh!!! I can't do it!!! Read if you muct

But they only come here to do the jobs that we Americans won't do. You know I'm wondering why we won't. Could it be that we have an entitlememnt minded populas that thinks they are to good to do these very esential but also very menial jobs. I'd like to think so. Although I must admit this is one instance and that not all illegals commit other crimes (because the way the country was the first) but this will cause a fire storm from people even more right of center than me who will jump on this as a way of saying that all illegals need to be deported. Man what a mess. Poor girl. I hope they nail the bastard.

Politically, if you must read it:
Certain corporate interrests make it so that the "illegals" get villified, and not the people that hire them so they don't have to pay minimum wage, benefits or anything like that. just the corporations trying to bring things back to a pre-Teddy Roosevelt style lasse faire (I can't spell it in French) attutude toward big business). That said, people put up more of a stink with those people than the corporations movie the jobs TO Mexico amnd charging even less, all the while getting tax loopholes.

But yeah. I never understood pedophilia. I just don't see how undeveloped bodies are desirable. It's just...just sick to do it to little kids. They're little kids for crying out loud. If you have to be a freaking disgusting pervert, pay a freaking hooker of legal age. it's still illgeal and immoral, but at least it's not as dispicable as rape.

[PAAATE]

I don't think abortion should ever be an option tho.

Ok, who invented a time machine and brought you over from the 19th century?

For your information, it's opinions like that, that turn people against christianity..

And, yeah, I know, I shouldn't write this but when I read such a horrible thing I just feel a big urge to respond..

[jeff the cheff]

Politically, if you must read it:
Certain corporate interrests make it so that the "illegals" get villified, and not the people that hire them so they don't have to pay minimum wage, benefits or anything like that. just the corporations trying to bring things back to a pre-Teddy Roosevelt style lasse faire (I can't spell it in French) attutude toward big business). That said, people put up more of a stink with those people than the corporations movie the jobs TO Mexico amnd charging even less, all the while getting tax loopholes.

But yeah. I never understood pedophilia. I just don't see how undeveloped bodies are desirable. It's just...just sick to do it to little kids. They're little kids for crying out loud. If you have to be a freaking disgusting pervert, pay a freaking hooker of legal age. it's still illgeal and immoral, but at least it's not as dispicable as rape.

It's not desirable to normal people, but there are people, like this guy, who have serious problems Rape really isn't about sexual desires, its an act of violence, or a way for someone to feel dominant over someone else.

[Machias Banshee]

Ok, who invented a time machine and brought you over from the 19th century?

For your information, it's opinions like that, that turn people against christianity..

And, yeah, I know, I shouldn't write this but when I read such a horrible thing I just feel a big urge to respond..


As long as everyone can stay civil on subjects.......




As for child molesters/rapists, its my personal opinion that they are mentally not right, and the idea that they can be 'fixed and released' is infuriating to me... I hope they nail this bastard to the wall, no matter what ethnicity/race he is...

[Jester]

Grrr...I wish we could discuss some of the topics that that this will inevitably steam from this thread, like abortion, but I know there's the possibility of flame wars.

[GK Punk]

Yeah it's best just to not go there.

[Buslady]

I don't like the idea of stopping a pregnancy but I wonder WHY did they let this traumatized girl go through this?
Fortunantely for the baby girl she'll most likely be adopted to a good family, I hope, and she'll never know she was a rape baby.


The one about the 5yr old giving birth to a boy is just freaky. Poor kid.

[PAAATE]

We really should have some section just for political and religious topics.... With an instant ban if you can't behave..

Or not, I don't know... I just know I have trouble keeping my mouth (fingers?) shut when it comes to those things.. :P

And, yeah that 5 year old.. Sad.. I mean, even if she, through some sort of mutation, can have a baby she's nowhere near the physical or psychological maturity that she needs to give birth..

As for child molesters/rapists, its my personal opinion that they are mentally not right, and the idea that they can be 'fixed and released' is infuriating to me...

Yeah, I don't think they can be fixed and released either.. I just don't like the aggressive attitude since it's not really their own fault..

[Jo Dawn]

Grrr...I wish we could discuss some of the topics that that this will inevitably steam from this thread, like abortion, but I know there's the possibility of flame wars.

Yeah, too bad we're too immature here to handle it. I belong to TWO other forums where opinions are respected and discussed. But, I can see we're not like that, sadly. We're ADULTS people. Grow up.

Ok, who invented a time machine and brought you over from the 19th century?

Like this. This is why we can't handle this. Grow UP. And then send me back to the 19th century, I guess. At least people had respect for people then.

[PAAATE]

And then send me back to the 19th century, I guess. At least people had respect for people then.

Umm, no, not really.. And I can't understand how abortion still can be an issue in so many countries... It's a way of helping people who have been raped.. Or maybe the condom broke or the birth control pill didn't work (they're not 100% safe, for anyone who didn't know).. But on the other hand I don't think abortion should be overly used.. Like, there was a girl in my class who had gotten like three abortions at the age of 15, because she didn't want to use any kind of protection... That is stupid and discusting... But I still think it should be an option.

Look at that.. Actual arguments.. :P

[Raphael_]

That's such a sad story. I hope everything will work out for the mother and her child. I don't think abortion should ever be an option tho.

It wouldn't be an option when she's about to explode?

There's all kinds of things wrong with this, none of which can be solved with a blanket solution, just like 99% of everything else in the world.

[Jester]

Umm, no, not really.. And I can't understand how abortion still can be an issue in so many countries... It's a way of helping people who have been raped.. Or maybe the condom broke or the birth control pill didn't work (they're not 100% safe, for anyone who didn't know).. But on the other hand I don't think abortion should be overly used.. Like, there was a girl in my class who had gotten like three abortions at the age of 15, because she didn't want to use any kind of protection... That is stupid and disgusting... But I still think it should be an option.

Look at that.. Actual arguments.. :P
Exactly why it is still an issue because it's "misused" for lack of a better term. It's not just used in cases of rape, incest or to save the life of the mother in risky pregnancies, but for people who are too selfish to accept the consequences of their poor decision making. Why should an innocent child have to be eliminated because the mother made a poor choice? To me abortion as a basically another form of birth control is just selfish.

[Hannah]

I think the kid would be better off dead before fetal development than to grow up dirty and poor and unhappy because his mom made a bad decision by getting knocked up and then made ANOTHER bad decision by not getting an abortion.