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Raph's Girl
05-23-2008, 11:13 PM
Casting calls are now going out for those in Pennsylvania and New Jersey for extras for Transformers 2. They will be filming scenes in Princeton and Phillidelphia in June. For more info go here:
http://heerycasting.com/index.php
Warhorse
05-24-2008, 11:48 PM
Raph's Girl, are you going to try out for some of the parts? Could be fun to be part of such a huge production, even if it is just being a random person in the background that would be on screen less than half a second!
Roseangelo
05-24-2008, 11:53 PM
I don't think Raph's Girl lives in either of those areas (although some people around here do!).
I've been an extra several times and it really does get quite boring, depending on what it is that you're doing. I was cast as a "featured extra" in Mighty Ducks 3 and ended up with a close-up shot as I happened to be standing next to one of the actual actors. 8) Too bad the movie itself is quite horrible...
Raph's Girl
05-25-2008, 12:56 AM
Raph's Girl, are you going to try out for some of the parts? Could be fun to be part of such a huge production, even if it is just being a random person in the background that would be on screen less than half a second!
I would if I lived on the east coast but alas I live in the ever wonderous and wet Pacific Northwest (aka Hollywood II). Thankfully tho I live in a town where movies are filmed here all the time... "There Will Be Blood", "Rose Red", and "Dunstan Checks In" have all been filmed nearby. I was able to watch the filming of "Dunstan Checks In" from my back yard. The other 2 were filmed at a castle that's 5 min from here.
I almost auditioned for The Baby Sitter's Club movie maaaaany many years ago when I lived in Germany (no clue why they had a casting call in Germany)...but I wasn't able to cuz I was too old. :ohwell:
I DO know some people who've been extras in films tho. Got a friend who's in the new Batman movie in fact.
Aelia
05-25-2008, 02:20 AM
I would be more than happy to get 'athletic' enough to be an extra. But I can't bend my age and I don't think I want to take a ten hour drive all the way to Pennsylvania and/or New Jersey.
Ninjinister
05-25-2008, 03:31 AM
Transformers II: now with 35% more "No no no no no no no...."
Warhorse
05-25-2008, 11:48 AM
^ Grow up!
Raph's Girl
05-25-2008, 04:46 PM
Aaaand more casting calls! This time for children in the Washington, DC/Virginia area.
Heery Casting is looking for SAG background talent adults and SAG or NON-UNION children for the new Dreamworks feature film, Transformers 2, directed by Michael Bay.
Needed are SAG background men and women age 7-65, and SAG or Non-UNION boys and girls, ages 7-18, all ethnicities, for a scene set in a museum in Washington DC. Shooting will take place in the beginning of June 2008.
If interested and available, please e-mail a picture/resume to
[email protected]
Be sure to include all contact information and SAG number (if any).
http://film.virginia.org/hotline/Hotline.aspx
According to a blog site strangly called Dueling Tampons (apperantly the nick name of some structures on campus). The filming in Philidelphia in June will be taking place at the University of Pennsylvania's Castle Fraternity on 36th and Locust ST.
http://www.duelingtampons.com/2008/05/dt-rumor-mill-more-news-about-big-movie.html
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/da/TheCastleatPenn.JPG
Ninjinister
05-26-2008, 09:20 AM
^ Grow up!
Are you confusing my distaste for the Transformers film and its protagonist with childishness?
cqb101
05-26-2008, 11:54 PM
Are you confusing my distaste for the Transformers film and its protagonist with childishness?
Nope, pretty sure she's just calling you immature.
Hannah
05-27-2008, 12:02 AM
Oh, did I miss the chance to walk around behind Shia Labeouf? He's hot. Damn.
I know where that castle is. I should find out when they're shooting and go chex it out.
Raph's Girl
05-27-2008, 07:45 AM
Oh, did I miss the chance to walk around behind Shia Labeouf? He's hot. Damn.
No. You didn't miss it. The casting call for Pennsylvania isn't till May 31st. So you have plenty of time. The filming at the University is in June.
Tinuvielsdreams
05-28-2008, 08:55 AM
Yeah I saw this thread and mentioned it to my friend who always gets calls when they need extras here in Philly. He just found out about it himself and if he goes I think I might tag along, could be fun.
GK Punk
05-28-2008, 09:07 AM
I know where that castle is. I should find out when they're shooting and go chex it out.
And take pics.
Mr. Snackpants
05-28-2008, 06:45 PM
I heard Rainn Wilson is shooting a small role as a Professor in Philly.
The one time I go on vacation and can't make it. :(
Raph's Girl
06-05-2008, 02:51 PM
Transformers 2 now has a full title!! So lets all say hello to "Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen".....Umm.....what?
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36976
Spitfire
06-05-2008, 03:00 PM
This should prove to be amusing.
cqb101
06-05-2008, 08:59 PM
Transformers 2 now has a full title!! So lets all say hello to "Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen".....Umm.....what?
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36976
The decepticons got their asses kicked, Starscream returns with more dudes to take revenge. Title makes sense.
ZariusTwo
06-05-2008, 09:05 PM
Or a herald of Unicron that arrives on Earth to locate the All-Spark and summon his master to Earth...
(Referring to the War Within character "The Fallen", though the plot is very likely just Megatron's elite guard returning)
Raph's Girl
06-05-2008, 09:20 PM
The decepticons got their asses kicked, Starscream returns with more dudes to take revenge. Title makes sense.
That's basically happening right now in Reign of Starscream (which started out as the 1st film from the POV of the Decepticons and now it's set after the film with Starscream gathering up the troops)
Raph's Girl
06-06-2008, 09:18 AM
Or a herald of Unicron that arrives on Earth to locate the All-Spark and summon his master to Earth...
(Referring to the War Within character "The Fallen", though the plot is very likely just Megatron's elite guard returning)
I had never heard of The Fallen. Thankfully there was a wiki link to him at Shortpacked. Charming fella....a Transformer that's on fire...AND he's a lacky of Unicron....wee....Would be kewl to see Unicron on the Big Screen tho....
http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/The_Fallen
Zarius: Your description of him reminds me of Silver Surfer. :lol:
Raph's Girl
06-18-2008, 05:18 PM
Oh looky! It's Arcee!! Just needs some pink paint on it....
http://transformers.moviechronicles.com/2008-06/the-custom-built-arcee-motorcycle/
Raph's Girl
06-24-2008, 01:47 AM
OMG people.. you have GOT to take a look at the new look for Bumblebee! Totally bad ass!!
http://jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2008/06/2010-Chevy-Camaro-Z28-front.jpg
http://jalopnik.com/396734/transformers-corvette-concept-z28-bumblebee-get-a-close+up
GK Punk
06-24-2008, 01:51 AM
Jesus, could they try to make that look any more like a Cobra?
Raph's Girl
01-10-2009, 04:13 PM
Paramount has released the first poster for Revenge of the Fallen....looks....ominous:
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0901/10/transformers.jpg
Warhorse
01-10-2009, 11:11 PM
This is the most anticipated movie for me this year! Loved, absolutely loved the first one! First official trailer is reported to debut with this year's Superbowl on Feb 1st.
Although, it would be a good idea of attaching a teaser to the re-release of TDK this month.
I am very much stoked for this film indeed...
I saw the toy picture for ROTF Sideswipe recentley and was impressed, I just hope that the entirely final on-screen design is coloured red and not silver as that's a/ Sideswipe's proper colour and b/ red cars look best in films and tv period.
===HERO
ZariusTwo
01-11-2009, 02:33 PM
I might see this one. The first movie is overated and was thin on plot, this one looks like it'll have the kind of TF mythology I've wanted realized on-screen
Mecha Cow
01-11-2009, 04:39 PM
Overrated? Online at least, most people seem to hate it.
ZariusTwo
01-11-2009, 11:24 PM
Overrated? Online at least, most people seem to hate it.
That's good to hear
That movie is yet ANOTHER of my top twenty reasons never to post on a TF message board. Period.
Warhorse
01-12-2009, 08:30 PM
Overrated? Online at least, most people seem to hate it.
People online hate everything!
Peanut
01-12-2009, 09:07 PM
Is it hypocritical to say calling things overrated is overrated?
Jester
01-12-2009, 09:18 PM
Is it hypocritical to say calling things overrated is overrated?
No, it's IRONIC!
No, it's IRONIC!
Wow. I guess the closer you are to God, the more you forget the meaning of the word "irony". Right, Ninjinister?
turkishproverb
01-13-2009, 01:24 AM
That's good to hear
That movie is yet ANOTHER of my top twenty reasons never to post on a TF message board. Period.
Why? Most transformers fans agree with your opinions on it, or are more harsh.
Mind you, they do not hate it as much as they hate pat lee (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Pat_Lee), but still.
Blade Raider
02-01-2009, 12:51 AM
Revenge of the Fallen trailer is now out!
After the GI Joe trailer hit, it was only a matter of time.
Good res (Fun fact, adding "&fmt=18" to the url makes it better res):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAujq_F_AD0&fmt=18
High def (Sadly, to high for my computer):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAujq_F_AD0&fmt=22
Looks like "Devastaor" has been hanging with BM Thrust...
*Watches it again.*
Ravage is awesome
*Watches it again.*
Sideswipe(?) is awesome
*Watches it again.*
*Starts foaming at the mouth from awesomness*
*Watches it again.*
cqb101
02-01-2009, 09:54 AM
So awesome
Revenge of the Fallen trailer is now out!
After the GI Joe trailer hit, it was only a matter of time.
Good res (Fun fact, adding "&fmt=18" to the url makes it better res):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAujq_F_AD0&fmt=18
High def (Sadly, to high for my computer):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAujq_F_AD0&fmt=22
Looks like "Devastaor" has been hanging with BM Thrust...
*Watches it again.*
Ravage is awesome
*Watches it again.*
Sideswipe(?) is awesome
*Watches it again.*
*Starts foaming at the mouth from awesomness*
*Watches it again.*
Ok let me help make sense of that trailer.
The bot everyone thinks is Sideswipe jumping out the window, being chased by three other bots (speculation is its all three parts that form to make Arcee,) is an Audi R8, not the concept Corvette. Some say it is a reformatted Barricade.
Megatron is the one pinning Sam down as you can see his tank treads.
The Steamshovel one wheeled bot at the end is not Devastator, rather just one part of him. The toy for that bot has been seen and it isn't 7 bots like Devastator is. Also the toy for Devastator has been confirmed to be 2 feet tall. The toy for that one wheeled Constructicon isn't 2 feet tall by any means.
Awesome trailer, checked it out quite a bit since I first saw it last night.
Warhorse
02-01-2009, 10:52 AM
Just saw the trailer myself. Thank God, I will be missing most of the superbowl because of some stupid deadline at work tonight, and I'm glad I got to see the trailer after all.
Blade Raider
02-01-2009, 11:07 AM
Ok let me help make sense of that trailer.
I don't need your help understanding awesomeness :P
The bot everyone thinks is Sideswipe jumping out the window, being chased by three other bots (speculation is its all three parts that form to make Arcee,) is an Audi R8, not the concept Corvette. Some say it is a reformatted Barricade.
That car shows up on the net every other week with a different name. I', going with my favorite until it's proven differently.
Megatron is the one pinning Sam down as you can see his tank treads.
While I knew about "Megatron", but spoilers dude. Spoilers.
The Steamshovel one wheeled bot at the end is not Devastator, rather just one part of him. The toy for that bot has been seen and it isn't 7 bots like Devastator is. Also the toy for Devastator has been confirmed to be 2 feet tall. The toy for that one wheeled Constructicon isn't 2 feet tall by any means.
I know it's supposly only one part, but until I see more or the character is named, I'm calling it "Devastaor". Just like I did for Brawl until Devastaor was on track for TF2 (Though that's mostly because Brawl makes me think of underwear :P)
Awesome trailer, checked it out quite a bit since I first saw it last night.
Agreed, tis awesome! :D
TheUltimateShredhead
02-01-2009, 11:26 AM
I'm looking forward to it despite the fact that i enjoyed the 1986 movie far more the 2007 movie.
Raph's Girl
02-01-2009, 02:42 PM
As the trailer has been taken off youtube you can now watch it here:
http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/transformers-2/super-bowl-spot
I don't need your help understanding awesomeness :P
That car shows up on the net every other week with a different name. I', going with my favorite until it's proven differently.
While I knew about "Megatron", but spoilers dude. Spoilers.
I know it's supposly only one part, but until I see more or the character is named, I'm calling it "Devastaor". Just like I did for Brawl until Devastaor was on track for TF2 (Though that's mostly because Brawl makes me think of underwear :P)
Agreed, tis awesome! :D
No problem... However, common sense would tell you that no Autobot ever had red eyes. If you pause the trailer and move the arrow around on the 13 second marker, you'll notice red eyes. Or you can just check out all the hi def pics at TFW2005.com.
Plus everyone has seen this toy.
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys--products-30/first-impressions-review-and-extensive-images-of-revenge-of-the-fallen-audi-r8-decepticon-166685/
That is the Audi R8, the same car that can be seen popping out of that window. But if you choose to see for yourself, then by all means. :D
Michael Bay has admitted before to the biggest mistake he made in TF1 that never got fixed. That was not correcting the name Devastator when Brawl announced he was headed to Mission City to meet the other Cons. Plus every toy was called Brawl.
They toy for the Steamshovel, sans 7 other robots can be found here... If you already have seen the toy, then for others who wish to see what that figure looks like. It definately isn't 2 feet tall like the 100 dollar Devastator toy will be.
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/217295-rotf-trailer-youtube-13.html
Again, not 2 feet tall (looks Voyager class to me,) as you see it next to the Deluxe class Audi R8 figure.
In anycase... Devastator has always been one of my fave TF's despite me not watching the show, cause I was too busy being up TMNT's ass. Can't wait to get a 2 foot tall TF toy.
Mecha Cow
02-01-2009, 04:52 PM
There's no doubt that that Audi is Barricade. The robot mode is a dead giveaway.
Zachatello00
02-01-2009, 11:24 PM
I thought the commercial that came on immediatly afterward, with the woman screaming in her car, was an extension of the trailer, lol.
Warhorse
02-19-2009, 08:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXA5QuzA0GQ&fmt=22
Longer trailer is up. You can better images of the robots and the effects in this one.
Raph's Girl
04-04-2009, 02:55 AM
The robot roster has been revealed!!
http://movies.yahoo.com/photos/movie-stills/gallery/1360/transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen-stills#photo0
http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2009-04-01-transformers-first-look_N.htm
http://cdn-www.mania.com/content_pics/000004/84/49/7528f3bb065fa9d7_large.jpg
The Doctor (whoever he is):
http://cdn-www.mania.com/content_pics/000004/82/49/95b5f4c606afda09_large.jpg
Ravage (bad doggy! Bad bad!):
http://i.usatoday.net/life/_photos/2009/04/02/ravagex-topper-medium.jpg
http://cdn-www.mania.com/content_pics/000004/79/49/57c84f0f096eb4e0_large.jpg
Starscream:
http://cdn-www.mania.com/content_pics/000004/80/49/adf150531ff96048_large.jpg
Optimus:
http://cdn-www.mania.com/content_pics/000004/81/49/bb78662c1f44ba20_large.jpg
The spider-like character at the top is a newcomer named Scalpel.
===HERO
cqb101
04-04-2009, 07:53 AM
That's not the full roster. There's 60 bots in the film.
Raph's Girl
04-04-2009, 10:31 AM
The spider-like character at the top is a newcomer named Scalpel.
===HERO
USA Today says his name is The Doctor. *lol*
A smaller, but no less malevolent Decepticon is known as The Doctor — a spider-like droid that transforms into various implements of torture and has a not-so-nice encounter with star Shia LaBeouf.
Buslady
04-04-2009, 01:10 PM
now it's move to the east, what happened to LA? not good enough? Jee.
it was cool seeing them fighting in the LA River around bridges I see all the time.
Raph's Girl
04-04-2009, 03:47 PM
now it's move to the east, what happened to LA? not good enough? Jee.
it was cool seeing them fighting in the LA River around bridges I see all the time.
Whitwikey's in college in Revenge of the Fallen. Attending the University of Pennsylvania.
Warhorse
04-20-2009, 06:54 PM
http://www.movienewz.com/2009/04/19/transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen-footage/
It starts with a clip of the movie, and then rushes into another teaser, revealing an interesting battle in the forest.
Cipher
04-22-2009, 03:36 PM
Thing's I'll enjoy more than this movie: Watching my new Headmaster and Masterforce DVDs.
That said, I'll still see it, albeit with extremely low expectations. I'd love to enjoy the live-action Transformers movies, but when they're the shlockiest pieces of incomprehendable "action" I've ever seen, with none of the aspects I like about other TF media, it's a hard sell.
People who enjoy seeing robots go smashy-smashy can keep this one.
thebrownranger
05-03-2009, 05:45 PM
Damn this movie is going to kick ass!!! The new trailer seems very promising :)
http://www.transformersmovie.com/
Raph's Girl
06-12-2009, 08:07 PM
The Soundtrack for the movie isn't out till July 23rd but the first music video for it is already out. The song is called New Divide by Linkin Park. LOVE love the song!
http://www.mania.com/transformers-music-video-online_article_115637.html
I am going to see this on Friday. Glad the UK got this movie first for a change.
===HERO
Warhorse
06-21-2009, 03:01 AM
How many "F" bombs can a PG-13 movie have? Just curious. Don't know if this is the real thing or not, but saw this hilarious, LMFAO scene in the upcoming movie, and the robot is quite the fowl mouthed little bad news bear. Check it out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjGn4hmOeus
Candy Kappa
06-21-2009, 03:11 AM
I'm looking forward to this movie, hopfully it'll be more about the bots, rather then the squishy humans
Cipher
06-21-2009, 03:18 AM
How many "F" bombs can a PG-13 movie have?One "f-bomb" and two "sh*ts". I kid you not. The rating system is that asinine.
Warhorse
06-21-2009, 03:19 AM
But is it me, or is that little robot saying "this has got to be the house of fcking horrors" or something to that degree. Right? Am I hearing things, or did he really say that? If so, think it's going to be in the movie? If so, wonder what other little surprises will be slipped in!;)
The Stryker
06-21-2009, 07:33 AM
Thing's I'll enjoy more than this movie: Watching my new Headmaster and Masterforce DVDs.
That said, I'll still see it, albeit with extremely low expectations. I'd love to enjoy the live-action Transformers movies, but when they're the shlockiest pieces of incomprehendable "action" I've ever seen, with none of the aspects I like about other TF media, it's a hard sell.
People who enjoy seeing robots go smashy-smashy can keep this one.
Dude, wasn't the original cartoon a glorified toy commercial?
ZariusTwo
06-21-2009, 07:43 AM
Every series from the 1980s was a toy comemrcial, but the key to their success was that they overcame being regarded as a straight line of catalouging and told good storylines
Any televisied version of TMNT is a glorified toy ad. Let's not kid ourselves.#]
If so, wonder what other little surprises will be slipped in!
How about the most racist humour I've ever seen in Transformers?
I saw it. Despite Bay's adolescent, and downright OFFENSIVE ideas about comedy, it actually had a PLOT this time (unlike the first film), and the quest aspect and the human journey kept the audience intrigued.
The Stryker
06-21-2009, 08:41 AM
Any televisied version of TMNT is a glorified toy ad. Let's not kid ourselves.#]
I agree completely.
ToTheNines
06-21-2009, 09:04 AM
I agree completely.
F*ck ninja turtles.
Cipher
06-22-2009, 01:48 AM
Dude, wasn't the original cartoon a glorified toy commercial?Every version of Transformers is a toy ad. Every show, every comic, every movie.
But some are more intellegent, more fun, better written and more entertaining than others. For me, personally, the Michael Bay movie was bottom in every category. Poor humor, every cliche, no characterization for the robots, terrible Bay directing that gave me whiplash when I tried to follow the fight scenes, and a script that was as insulting to my intellegence as some of the most "toy ad-ish" episodes of the 1984 series.
I don't high art from my Transformers, just something I can enjoy. I'll give this second movie the benefit of the doubt until I see it, but my hopes aren't too high.
Any televisied version of TMNT is a glorified toy ad. Let's not kid ourselves.No!1 teh 2k3 turtlez is DARK and SERIUS. They have fliing carz and bikez cuz of SERIUSNES!
The Stryker
06-22-2009, 10:36 AM
F*ck ninja turtles.
Agreed. Completely.
Spike Spiegel
06-22-2009, 05:38 PM
Despite Bay's adolescent, and downright OFFENSIVE ideas about comedy, it actually had a PLOT this time (unlike the first film), and the quest aspect and the human journey kept the audience intrigued.
So I can expect more "seaman" jokes?
Dragon Turtle
06-22-2009, 08:35 PM
So I can expect more "seaman" jokes?
That type of humor is too highbrow for Transformers:ROTF.
ZariusTwo
06-23-2009, 09:40 PM
g__bQ-Y7D8Q
Even though I liked the movie, THIS is the finest review there is of ROTF
cqb101
06-24-2009, 08:31 AM
So, yeah. Saw it at midnight. It sucked.
Brodie
06-24-2009, 11:12 AM
I saw it in IMAX, and it wasn't a good experience. Bay's style of close-up film making tied to giant screens don't do each other any good.
The transforming was too confusing to watch...
I didn't like it as much as the first, but because the first was an amazing nostalgia experience.
As far as story....it seems like it goes from A, to B, then jumps to D without giving any semblance of C. Its pretty much ********.
The people seem to have a bigger (albeit lamer) role, and minimize the importance of the bots. You never get any information on any of the new Autobots, except for two robots no one will ever enjoy: the twins. I ****ing HATED the twins. I don't think they're racist stereotypes, nor do I find that aspect offensive.
What I DO find offensive is Bay's ideals that he somehow feels that its necessary to add what he thinks is "Urban Flare." They're annoying as ****, and the only new robots you really "meet."
The best part? Ravage. That's it.
The rest of the movie is too jumbled to make any sense.
EDIT: And how many times did that stupid Green Day song need to be played? I easily counted 5 times that it was at least started. ********.
But hey, it wasn't as bad as Wolverine.
Raph's Girl
06-24-2009, 04:04 PM
Well I just have to say that I actually liked the film and thought it was better than the first one. I liked Skids and Mudflap....I don't see why people are complaining about racism.... they reminded me of the constructicons in Transformers Animated....course they were voiced by the same people. Tom Kenny rox!
The only thing I didn't really like was that not all the transformers were named. The 3 female autobots actually have different names in the toyline...yet in the movie they were just ALL Arcee.
I did like how Soundwave was done... a spy satelite...awesome...
Zog the Equalizer
06-24-2009, 05:07 PM
I just saw it. Skids and Mudflap were pretty unbearable. I didn't really get a racist feel though more a "white suburban kids trying to act street" kinda thing going on. The "humor" in the movie was, for the most part, infantile. Other than that I really liked it and the action was great. A little more Sideswipe would have been nice as well as Jolt and Arcee. My biggest compliant was that it was 2 and a half hours long and still felt rushed. The part where Optimus said "Fate rarely calls upon us at a time of our choosing" made me squee like a fangirl
Ginny
06-24-2009, 07:26 PM
I loved it! I thought the action and special effects were great. There were some great lines in the movie also. Have to say, I think this has actually been my favorite movie this summer.
cqb101
06-24-2009, 07:49 PM
I didn't see Skids and Mudflap as racist at all. Extremely annoying and not the least bit funny, but not racist.
Warhorse
06-24-2009, 08:40 PM
Just got back from a day out on the town, and from watching Transformers 2 in IMAX. Right now, I think I liked the first one better. It seemed better paced. And I agree, the 2nd one seemed rushed for as long as it was. Perhaps a second viewing will put things in a better light.
Now, I was actually shocked that Optimus Prime gets killed so early in the film. I had suspicions that he was going to die in this one and come back for the third, but had no idea that it would be his death and the race to the matrix to revive him, before the Decepticons got a hold of it to completely destroy the Earth, that would be the core plot. It actually made everyone's stake in the game on a more personal level. I'm just glad I didn't spoil the movie for myself by reading about it from other viewers.
I also got a kick out of Bumblebee's dismay with Sam when he was showing signs cheating on Mikaela. And I don't remember his name,but the fowl mouthed little robot that ended up liking Mikaela in the end, was hilarious! I sure hope he comes back for the next one!
I liked the movie, and have little complaints. My main one is not enough Ironhide, but that's just because he was my favorite in the first, and I was really looking forward to some more one on one/slow-motion battles featuring Ironhide. Other complaints were there were not enough of the Autobots all together, but from a business stand point, I can understand that, since it is very expensive to generate the Transformers on screen. Another complaint was the end battle was a little jumbled up. I'm thinking it was the new look Optimus prime sported that made it hard to tell what was going on.
But, in the end, I'm glad to see that none of the major characters died, unlike the cartoon Transformers movie. This is where I think the new films get it right for sure!
Ginny
06-24-2009, 08:52 PM
I also got a kick out of Bumblebee's dismay with Sam when he was showing signs cheating on Mikaela. And I don't remember his name,but the fowl mouthed little robot that ended up liking Mikaela in the end, was hilarious! I sure hope he comes back for the next one!
I loved that scene! I laughed like a goober when
"Your Cheatin' Heart" started to play! And when her face was slammed off of the dash! :lol:
Mr. Snackpants
06-24-2009, 10:02 PM
I didn't understand all the bad reviews I read the past week. I mean it's a Transformers movie directed by Michael Bay. So right there you've gotta take it for what it's worth. There's not going to be a strong plot, dialogue will be laughable, and it's nothing more than a summer action flick(with an emphasis on the action).
I just saw it tonight on IMAX and with all those thoughts in mind....I don't think I enjoyed it.
Cons:
It was such a long movie and somehow the plot was a f*cked up mess and felt rushed. How does that happen?
The 'comedy' was so juvenile, I might've chuckled a couple times. Anybody else sick of Sam's mom? I thought she was kinda funny in the first one, but she wore out her welcome in this film. It's like they tripled her wackiness and it just became obnoxious. The stupid twin bots. They didn't make me laugh, they just pissed me off. Then there was the scrotum joke.......
The plot. Like I said at the beginning you've gotta take this movie for what it's worth. I wasn't expecting a stellar story. I was able the thoroughly enjoy the first film despite it's dumb story. This plot was so sh*tty that it kinda ruined the rest of the movie for me. It was that...f*cking....bad.
It also ended abruptly. It felt like they went too far over budget, just ran out of ways to make sh*t explode, or the 'writers' had no idea how to end the train wreck.
Pros:
Megan Fox
Megan Fox Running
Megan Fox Running in Slow Motion
Megan Fox Doing Anything in Slow Motion
Megan Fox on Motorcycles
Megan Fox
I might not even go watch this again. I might save my $15. I went in with low expectations and still came out disappointed.
Warhorse
06-24-2009, 10:32 PM
I loved that scene! I laughed like a goober when
"Your Cheatin' Heart" started to play! And when her face was slammed off of the dash! :lol:
Oh yes, the whole damn theater went into stitches!
But you know how when you leave a movie, you find yourself quoting something from the movie. Well, we all were quoting "It's like the house of f**cking horrors" and especially "That's my eye you crazy b!tch!
What did you find yourself quoting?
Cipher
06-25-2009, 12:36 AM
Saw it. Not sure how I feel, except a few times more retarded.
It miraculously managed to fail at everything the first movie succeeded at, and succeed at everything the first movie failed at.
Unlike the first movie, the robots got screen time, looked better, the action sequences were entertaining and easy to follow, and there were actually a lot of cool homages for long-time fans. Great!
However, while the first movie had decently charming human sequences, and a handful of real chuckles, the human interaction and "comedy" here were f*cking terrible. Behold Sam's painfully cheesey romantic subplot. Marvel at Michael Bay's inability to present a realistic college campus (that was NOT a frat house. No f*cking way). Revel in the height of comedy as Sam's mother responds like she's done a fistful of hallucinogenics after accidentally eating a pot brownie! Dozens of other painfully cheesey jokes abound! Robot testicles? You got 'em, and sadly that was one of the funniest parts. Joke about "finding you a tighter shirt" was alright. That one gets a pass.
And look for the two biggest crimes against race relations and humor you've seen since the Wyan's brothers last film. No review can understate this enough, as it basically pissed on the smoldering remains of dignity this movie had left.
F*cking Mudflap and Skids, and their zany Vaudevillian antics. Even if they weren't the most unsettling racist charicatures...ever, they'd still be painfully unfunny. In fact, at least the racism added some shock value, so there's that. That may have been for the best.
EDIT--Apparently some people didn't find them racist. I really wish I didn't. I'm the last person to get offended by anything, and I feel like an alarmist dick when I have to point fingers at robot stereotypes. With the right levels of irony, I actually enjoy race jokes. Really offensive ones. But Mudflap and Skids were just racist as sh*t, and not in any kind of witty, humorous way. They were dropping ebonics right and left followed by jokes about how they didn't read. At best, you could say that Bay's simply using the absurdity of ghetto culture for some laughs. After all, it's not directly tied to race. At worst, and more accurately, you could say they were total Sambo characters.
It's all I can hope that they replace Wheelie as the most despised characters among Transformers fans.
All the negative aspects aside, it was a decent two-hour popcorn flick. Unfortunately, it was three-hours long.
Brodie
06-25-2009, 01:18 AM
I've talked about this with other people... No black people find Mudflap and Skids racist. It seems to just be white people with black friends who think its racist.
Cipher
06-25-2009, 01:21 AM
Like I said, in that case they're just offensively unfunny. There can be no reprieve for them.
I think I've convinced myself that I hated this movie more than I did when I was actually watching this. It's just that...why do summer action movies have to be loud and stupid in order to be "fun"?
ZariusTwo
06-25-2009, 02:55 AM
I've talked about this with other people... No black people find Mudflap and Skids racist. It seems to just be white people with black friends who think its racist.
Oh get off of it. My crew thought it was racist. Anyone who says otherwise is just being "patrioticly apologetic"
Funny how most of the quotes revolve around the yankie-doodle-d*ckhead humour too...
ZariusTwo
06-25-2009, 03:14 AM
he was showing signs cheating on Mikaela. And I don't remember his name,but the fowl mouthed little robot that ended up liking Mikaela in the end, was hilarious! I sure hope he comes back for the next one!
Oh god, yes, that's all we need, some moronic little turncoat with Bay's fowl-mouthed sensibilites dry-humping legs. What grand writing. MORE PLEASE:roll:
People PAY to see this s*ite?
I liked the movie, and have little complaints. My main one is not enough Ironhide, but that's just because he was my favorite in the first, and I was really looking forward to some more one on one/slow-motion battles featuring Ironhide. Other complaints were there were not enough of the Autobots all together, but from a business stand point, I can understand that, since it is very expensive to generate the Transformers on screen.
They would have had enough money had they not decided to go overboard on that Legotechnic Pokemon Devastator.
But, in the end, I'm glad to see that none of the
major characters died, unlike the cartoon Transformers movie. This is where I think the new films get it right for sure!
You think the movies "get the right" because they DON'T kill off major characters?
Have you ever heard of a dramatic plot development in your entire life? Don't you know "war is hell" and reallisticly, nay, DRAMATICLY, characters sometimes have to...oh, you know... die to reflect that?
The animated movie had ten times more balls to go for a permanent body count or to leave Prime dead than Bayformers will ever muster with minimal figures or even Optimus himself. That isnt a sign of "getting it wrong", that's a sign of realism.
GK Punk
06-25-2009, 03:43 AM
I enjoyed it, but felt the first was better. I may go see it a second time to get a better opinion of it though. Not enough Arcee. :(
cqb101
06-25-2009, 07:46 AM
Oh get off of it. My crew thought it was racist. Anyone who says otherwise is just being "patrioticly apologetic"
One of my black friends thought they were the funniest part of the movie.
Guitar_Raph
06-25-2009, 09:27 AM
I was totally surprised that there are three motorcycles on the Autobot team. Sure they had a scooter (good) and evil motorcycles for Go-Bots.
Would've been cool if Shia got to drive one of the motorcycles.
Other than that, I enjoyed the movie.
Warhorse
06-25-2009, 10:54 AM
ZariusTwo]Oh god, yes, that's all we need, some moronic little turncoat with Bay's fowl-mouthed sensibilites dry-humping legs. What grand writing. MORE PLEASE:roll:
People PAY to see this s*ite?
Oh get over yourself! And guess what, I'm going to see it again because I liked the movie!
They would have had enough money had they not decided to go overboard on that Legotechnic Pokemon Devastator.
I agree here, but I'm not too surprised that the Decepticons were the focal points for the Transformers since the sequel kept on sporting the Decepticon emblem.
You think the movies "get the right" because they DON'T kill off major characters?
Have you ever heard of a dramatic plot development in your entire life? Don't you know "war is hell" and reallisticly, nay, DRAMATICLY, characters sometimes have to...oh, you know... die to reflect that?
The animated movie had ten times more balls to go for a permanent body count or to leave Prime dead than Bayformers will ever muster with minimal figures or even Optimus himself. That isnt a sign of "getting it wrong", that's a sign of realism.
Yeah, so the next Ninja Turtle movie we have, we should kill off a couple of the Turtles for your so called "dramatic plot development!"
Let's say, I'm so glad you didn't make this movie, you would have completely ruined it and any chance at future movies! I go to movies like this to have fun, not to be upset. If I wanted to be upset, I would've watched Saving Private Ryan! And I remember waiting for that movie to come out on DVD before I watched it because I don't like over dramatic movies like that. Ever occur to you that other people feel the same way, and it's why Transformers was made the way it was?
Mr. Snackpants
06-25-2009, 11:28 AM
Oh yes, the whole damn theater went into stitches!
But you know how when you leave a movie, you find yourself quoting something from the movie. Well, we all were quoting "It's like the house of f**cking horrors" and especially "That's my eye you crazy b!tch!
What did you find yourself quoting?
None of the things mentioned were funny, clever, or quote-worthy at all. Only a handful of morons and younger kids ever laughed...oh and the group of 'bros' sitting next to me.
Are you seriously that easily amused? This does seem like your kind of movie though.
TheCanadiandrome
06-25-2009, 12:00 PM
I enjoyed it, but felt the first was better. I may go see it a second time to get a better opinion of it though. Not enough Arcee. :(
yeah i agree with you. one thing with Arcee
why'd they make her twins or triplets? there was always one Arcee in the cartoon, and there's like multiple in the movie. nice to see Devestator, even if he did get easily pwned
Raph's Girl
06-25-2009, 12:26 PM
yeah i agree with you. one thing with Arcee
why'd they make her twins or triplets? there was always one Arcee in the cartoon, and there's like multiple in the movie. nice to see Devestator, even if he did get easily pwned
Yeah.. I didn't get that part... they were all called Arcee in the movie but the toyline is giving each of them names....and character development (the blue one is a love interest for Ironhide...something you don't see in the movie.)
The Stryker
06-25-2009, 12:28 PM
Mudflap makes Bryant Gumbel look like Malcolm X.
TheCanadiandrome
06-25-2009, 12:30 PM
Yeah.. I didn't get that part... they were all called Arcee in the movie but the toyline is giving each of them names....and character development (the blue one is a love interest for Ironhide...something you don't see in the movie.)
hmm. didn't know that. thanks for the info.
Cipher
06-25-2009, 12:56 PM
Oh get over yourself! And guess what, I'm going to see it again because I liked the movie!Cool. That doesn't affect anyone in the least. You're free to like what you like. But on some things, you're just plain wrong:
I agree here, but I'm not too surprised that the Decepticons were the focal points for the Transformers since the sequel kept on sporting the Decepticon emblem.Which is why it sucks that, apart from a few Megatron/Starscream scenes, they recieved no characterization. Part of the joy of Transformers is that there are colorful characters on both sides. Devastator was more of an animal than Ravage.
Yeah, so the next Ninja Turtle movie we have, we should kill off a couple of the Turtles for your so called "dramatic plot development!" If the Turtles was based around the concept of armies of expendable characters duking out, who time and time again had displayed the impact over various fiction that their deaths could have, then yes. They're not, but Transformers are. Did you ever watch Beast Wars, by chance?
I go to movies like this to have fun, not to be upset. If I wanted to be upset, I would've watched Saving Private Ryan!For the life of me, I don't understand this. Can't people have fun watching a movie with some dignity and dramatic elements? Again, go watch Beast Wars. Characters drop off like flies, but it just makes the entire series more exciting, and overall it's still very fun. How can a movie be fun or exciting when there's no sense of drama?
And seriously, if watching robot toy characters die makes you too emotional to enjoy a film, there's something wrong.
Zarius, everything you said. Awesome.
Peanut
06-25-2009, 01:23 PM
This thread is pathetic. It feels like I walked into the TMNT section.
The Stryker
06-25-2009, 01:57 PM
This thread is pathetic. It feels like I walked into the TMNT section.
Agreed. Completely.
Brodie
06-25-2009, 02:21 PM
Oh get off of it. My crew thought it was racist. Anyone who says otherwise is just being "patrioticly apologetic"
Funny how most of the quotes revolve around the yankie-doodle-d*ckhead humour too...
Everyone already knows you decided to like this movie because no one else would. The same reason you hate the first one because everyone liked it.
It must be really hard trying to be an Alt-trend-****stick all the time.
Cipher
06-25-2009, 04:23 PM
Everyone already knows you decided to like this movie because no one else would. The same reason you hate the first one because everyone liked it.
It must be really hard trying to be an Alt-trend-****stick all the time.Woah? Is this just something against Zarius personally? Because I think it's totally legitimate to hate this movie for just being sh*tty. Same for the last one.
But I'm done now. It's cool that people still enjoy these movies. I just hope it's not a trend that continues.
Brodie
06-25-2009, 04:45 PM
Woah? Is this just something against Zarius personally?
Absolutely not.
But I'm done now. It's cool that people still enjoy these movies. I just hope it's not a trend that continues.
I agree, but there was just too much that can't be completely forgiven in this one. Like, there were aspects of it that were fine, but others that just boggle the mind.
cqb101
06-25-2009, 10:47 PM
This thread is pathetic. It feels like I walked into the TMNT section.
Hahaha...Oh, wait.
:(
Mecha Cow
06-26-2009, 04:20 PM
I... I just saw it. I wish I could accurately describe my feelings on the movie, but I'm afraid it's left me incapable of doing anything besides dwelling on how unbelievably stupid it was.
Look. I love the first movie. It's dumb as hell, but I think it's fantastic for what it is. I wouldn't call it a good movie, but it certainly is a fun one. It has heart, and it has style, and if you allow yourself to enter its stupid little world everything will make sense and you'll have yourself a damn good time.
So it's not like I'm one to sh*t on a movie for lacking sophistication.
But nothing in this movie made any sense whatsoever. NOTHING. Why did Megatron come back? Why did Optimus die? What was the point of the Fallen? What was the point of any of the new characters, for that matter? None of it added anything. This wasn't even a movie. It was a collection of scenes, with random crap happening for no reason at all.
I have to laugh at the praise this sequel gets for supposedly involving more of the robot characters. Aside from a handful of very brief fight scenes, the Transformers were relegated to standing in the background blowing stuff up. I guess I'm supposed to care about the ridiculous new characters that are thrown in my face without any backstory or explanation? Like the Twins, who were not racist, just incredibly retarded.
I honestly can't even say I hated the movie. I didn't. In order to hate it I'd need to have at least some vague, basic understanding of what I saw, and I sure as sh*t don't.
But as much as I wanted to, I didn't like it either. The only thing I did like was Bumblebee. He was a remnant of the first movie more than anything else, keeping silent and staying on the sidelines, as if he were ashamed of being there at all. And I felt bad for him. Bad that he had to be part of this clusterf*ck.
What happened to...
Skids and Mudflap? They seemingly disappeared at/around the Devastator battle.
Brodie
06-26-2009, 07:16 PM
What happened to...
Skids and Mudflap? They seemingly disappeared at/around the Devastator battle.
Who cares?
During that fight I had hoped that one of them would be dead....then it came back.
I agree with everything Mecha said....but I look at it this way: It wasn't as bad as Wolverine.
TheCanadiandrome
06-26-2009, 10:29 PM
What happened to...
Skids and Mudflap? They seemingly disappeared at/around the Devastator battle.
good question. for that matter
did there seem to be alot less Autobots and Decepticons in this movie? Devastator was ok, but he got pwned too easily
Barkworm
06-27-2009, 02:17 PM
I agree with everything Mecha and Brodie said about this movie except the "not being as bad as Wolverine"-part. I don't think Wolverine was anywhere near as bad as this mess.
The first film was entertaining as hell. This one on the other hand was annoying. Everything about it was annoying, the ridiculously chaotic action scenes, the laughable dialogue and the stupid scipt. And while it might not have been racist, it was definitely sexist. Every female character in it was either a whore (that Decepticon slut), f*cking retarded (Sam's mother) or both (Megan Fox).
Dark 5cythe
06-27-2009, 11:12 PM
Wow it must be really miserable to not be able to enjoy a fun movie because it isnt a cinematic masterpeice.
It isnt enough anymore that a movie is enjoyable. Now it needs to be PERFECT and every facet of it needs to be bland. Dont dare inject humor into it. It needs to be totally serious and dark. *eyeroll*
sorry but no. I find it funny that so many fanboys are ripping on this movie that was FUN and totally forget and ignore the faults in their other favorite movies because those movies are "nostalgic".
But hey, the general public has spoken and they are loving this movie even though the internet seems to hate it. Check out the sales figures and the records it made already.
The Stryker
06-27-2009, 11:23 PM
I thought it was pretty good.
Then again I liked Dragonball:Evolution and apparently that was a sin against humanity as well.
Brodie
06-27-2009, 11:25 PM
Fanboys arent the only people who didn't like it. Far from it actually. I'm fine with enjoying movies for being pure entertainment...but this movie wasnt all that entertaining. I find it hard to swallow when a movie costs that much to make, but they forget to finish the story, yet still release it without explaining all the necessary plot points.
Edit: I will note that I don't hate the movie. There are just certain things that just boggle my mind, and really bug me. I feel like just adding random robots into the movie didnt solve anything.
Random question: Did anyone else find it hard to pick out Megatron in the end fight scene with all the random Decepticons?
cqb101
06-27-2009, 11:29 PM
Wow it must be really miserable to not be able to enjoy a fun movie because it isnt a cinematic masterpeice.
It isnt enough anymore that a movie is enjoyable. Now it needs to be PERFECT and every facet of it needs to be bland. Dont dare inject humor into it. It needs to be totally serious and dark. *eyeroll*
sorry but no. I find it funny that so many fanboys are ripping on this movie that was FUN and totally forget and ignore the faults in their other favorite movies because those movies are "nostalgic".
But hey, the general public has spoken and they are loving this movie even though the internet seems to hate it. Check out the sales figures and the records it made already.
It has nothing to do with not being able to enjoy a "fun" movie. The first Transformers movies was a lo of fun, and I absolutely loved it. I still love it. Hell, I probably watch it about once a month. Revenge of the Fallen just wasn't very fun, IMO. I didn't laugh (atleast not any intentional jokes), I found it to be drawn out and boring, and Bumblebee (one of the best parts of the first film) was barely in it. It wasn't fun at all. I couldn't wait for it to end.
The Stryker
06-27-2009, 11:29 PM
Random question: Did anyone else find it hard to pick out Megatron in the end fight scene with all the random Decepticons?
I had trouble when it was just him and Starscream.
Doesn't help that all the decepticons seem to be made out of knives.
Brodie
06-27-2009, 11:32 PM
Nothing is more terrifying than guns and knives transforming into bigger knives.
Spitfire
06-28-2009, 12:31 AM
I didn't see the film, I don't intend to I just felt I had to comment on this...
Wow it must be really miserable to not be able to enjoy a fun movie because it isnt a cinematic masterpeice.
It isnt enough anymore that a movie is enjoyable. Now it needs to be PERFECT and every facet of it needs to be bland. Dont dare inject humor into it. It needs to be totally serious and dark. *eyeroll*
So perfection is bland? That's an interesting take.
All kidding aside a movie can be very fun and a cinematic masterpiece. A movie can have lots of humor in it and still be serious. It's called balancing a film. You have good actors, you have a good script, and you present the film well. Here are a few examples of successful films that were both masterpieces in their own right and funny.
Drag Me To Hell*Hell the Evil Dead series as well*
The Departed
Iron-Man
Hellboy(Both of them)
Burn After Reading
Trainspotting
Now masterpiece is all a matter of opinion in some cases. These movies aren't all masterpieces per say but they were all good without any doubt. These are also a small small chunk of all the films out there. I'm sure others could come up with a better list that's just off the top of my head.
There's also comedy films that manage to be great movies, like Tropic Thunder and The Hangover. Both critics and audiences loved them, hell Tropic Thunder got Downy a supporting actor nomination.
Some people don't enjoy watching a 2 and a half hour toy advertisement, which seems to be the general critical consensus. I personally dislike Transformers as a concept. I gave the first film a chance and I didn't like it. Not everyone has the same tastes and not liking one film hardly means people are the way you say they are. Learn to be a tad more open minded.
But hey, the general public has spoken and they are loving this movie even though the internet seems to hate it. Check out the sales figures and the records it made already.
The general public also went and saw the new "Fast and the Furious" film and helped it gross over 150 million dollars. General public now consists of mostly foreigners who love American anything because the films we make here are a lot higher budget then what they make. They don't get to see many films with giant robots in it blowing **** up so no matter how bad it is they will enjoy it. The film, along with Terminator 4, is sweeping the foreign market.
I'm not saying foreigners are idiots by any means but things get lost in translation. Acting to them is pointless as the film is either dubbed or subtitled. So no matter how bad the acting is they will never know. Also the story is changed a little. The lines spoken must be changed or phrased in a way that works in their language and that sometimes changes the meaning of things.
A great is example is the movie "Hero". I loved it, all my Chinese friends hated it. They said the acting wasn't very good and they had heard the story before a million times. I believe the same logic applies here.
Be objective.
Jester
06-28-2009, 12:38 AM
I hated this movie. I watch a lot of crap, but this was just painful. My buddy and I MST3Ked it as quietly as we could (it was all we could do to try and enjoy ourselves. I mean come on There's a Decepticon who can be a "hot college chick" yet Bumble Bee, Prime and the others have to be Chevys WTH?!,) but not quietly enough for the shrew in front of us who was really enjoying herself, laughing at every juvenile joke that came out of Mudflap, Skids, and the lil' Decepticon's mouths. She actually called us out and told us she could hear the movie (by now in the final epic battle that was all explosions and no dialogue) over us yammering.
The Stryker
06-28-2009, 12:58 AM
but not quietly enough for the shrew in front of us who was really enjoying herself, laughing at every juvenile joke that came out of Mudflap, Skids, and the lil' Decepticon's mouths. She actually called us out and told us she could hear the movie (by now in the final epic battle that was all explosions and no dialogue) over us yammering.
Well, you were talking.
Doesn't matter whats happening in the movie, shut the hell up.
Spitfire, Drag me to hell was not successful and I'm gonna take a guess and say that you haven't seen Fast and Furious either, not too bad actually.
Spitfire
06-28-2009, 02:04 AM
Spitfire, Drag me to hell was not successful and I'm gonna take a guess and say that you haven't seen Fast and Furious either, not too bad actually.
I didn't mean financially I meant it pulled off being good cinema. And like most good cinema that comes out now a days it got the shaft. It'll be a cult classic as with most his movies that weren't Spider-man.
And no I didn't see it, but it was the fourth in the series. I saw the first two and that was enough for me. I also saw it got ripped apart by critics, who seldom steer me the wrong way but sometimes they do. I usually agree with them though. Again all opinion based.
Dark 5cythe
06-28-2009, 02:28 AM
Fanboys arent the only people who didn't like it. Far from it actually. I'm fine with enjoying movies for being pure entertainment...but this movie wasnt all that entertaining. I find it hard to swallow when a movie costs that much to make, but they forget to finish the story, yet still release it without explaining all the necessary plot points.
Edit: I will note that I don't hate the movie. There are just certain things that just boggle my mind, and really bug me. I feel like just adding random robots into the movie didnt solve anything.
The cost of a movie doesnt mean the quality. So really mentioning the cost doesnt say anything. The cost just means how many animators and riggers and lighting and texturing artists it took to get this many robots moving.
It sure seems that only hardcore fanboys and critics are hating the movie. When i saw it the whole theatre was ooooing and laughing and enjoying it. people clapped.
I hated this movie. I watch a lot of crap, but this was just painful. My buddy and I MST3Ked it as quietly as we could (it was all we could do to try and enjoy ourselves. I mean come on There's a Decepticon who can be a "hot college chick" yet Bumble Bee, Prime and the others have to be Chevys WTH?!,) but not quietly enough for the shrew in front of us who was really enjoying herself, laughing at every juvenile joke that came out of Mudflap, Skids, and the lil' Decepticon's mouths. She actually called us out and told us she could hear the movie (by now in the final epic battle that was all explosions and no dialogue) over us yammering.
I guess you dont know alot about TF from back in the day. The female Decepticon was a Pretender. They had the ability to hide as humans.
Well, you were talking.
Doesn't matter whats happening in the movie, shut the hell up.
FTW!
And frankly, this movie IS a 2 and a half hour TOY COMMERCIAL for the masses. No need to get in a huff and fight anyone.
But the movie was still fun. Now if this isnt your kind of movie, i guess then yeah your not gonna like it. But that doesnt mean the movie wasnt good.
Spitfire
06-28-2009, 02:53 AM
There's a very distinct line between good and entertaining. Opinion can only dictate if a film is entertaining. A good film must be judged on other levels besides "I really liked it. It kept my interest and made me laugh."
Mecha Cow
06-28-2009, 07:45 AM
But that doesnt mean the movie wasnt good.
Yes it does. Neither was the first Transformers, which again, I love. It's just that I can tell the difference between objective and subjective quality, and if more people could do that, this age-old argument would never have to come up again.
cqb101
06-28-2009, 08:38 AM
But the movie was still fun. Now if this isnt your kind of movie, i guess then yeah your not gonna like it. But that doesnt mean the movie wasnt good.
I had a long reply prepared for this, but Spitfire and Mecha Cow already said, so I'm just gonna say I agree with them.
cqb101
06-28-2009, 12:05 PM
$201.2 million over five days. Wow.
Brodie
06-28-2009, 02:50 PM
Does anyone know what the extra IMAX scenes were?
Mr. Snackpants
06-28-2009, 04:51 PM
I just remember some of the scenes during the fight in the forest...right before
Optimus "dies"
Other than that I honestly can't even remember.
Dark 5cythe
06-28-2009, 06:48 PM
does the price of the ticket matter as to wheter you find the movie enjoyable? I know some people payed 16 bucks and some like myself only payed 6.
I know the less you pay, the less ripped off you feel when watching a movie.
Spitfire
06-28-2009, 07:03 PM
Not really, what annoys me about bad movies is they're a waste of my time. The worst is sometimes you know that but you keep watching in hopes it gets better. That or you invested so much time into it you might as well finish watching it, especially if you paid to go see it. I've never walked out of a movie even though I've wanted to. Two movies I can think of that this happened in were The Chronicles of Narnia and Alexander. I also wanted to walk out of SAW 3, Garfield, and 2 Fast 2 Furious, all of which I was dragged to against my will.
Arcade Joe
06-28-2009, 07:37 PM
What a turd of a movie Transformers 2 was. Another perfect example of a Michael Bay movie that is all eye candy and no substance.....:sleep:
Jester
06-28-2009, 07:40 PM
Never walked out either, but I have riffed one oher movie, King Arthur. Then it was only 4 people (I kid you not) in the theater, and 3 of us were ripping it a new one. The 4th guy met us at the door and told us he was a fan of Arthurian lore and that he liked it and felt we were rude. Hey, we payed for entertainment, and we certainly got it.
Never walked out either, but I have riffed one oher movie, King Arthur. Then it was only 4 people (I kid you not) in the theater, and 3 of us were ripping it a new one. The 4th guy met us at the door and told us he was a fan of Arthurian lore and that he liked it and felt we were rude. Hey, we payed for entertainment, and we certainly got it.
But that person paid to watch a movie without interruptions. Are you really so dense you can't tell when you're being inconsiderate?
Jester
06-28-2009, 07:55 PM
No...I do understand, I guess I don't realize how loud we are.
Canadian Turtle
06-28-2009, 08:42 PM
To add my tid bit, even though it has been covered and said I'm sure. As one could expect in a Bay movie $h!t blows up....
neither of them were "good" movies, and I am super ruthless with movies, however I thoroughly enjoyed this!! It was pure cheese, but man was it fun!
I missed out on the original show but watch it and love old school toons. I try to keep up on the comparisons with the show to big screen, which Transformers does a little... probably a lot more than the GI Joe movie which to me looks nothing like a tribute to the cartoon.
ToTheNines
06-28-2009, 08:52 PM
all of which I was dragged to against my will.
That's one of my pet peeves... I still haven't recovered from the day I saw Spykids 3 in 3D.
Brodie
06-28-2009, 09:07 PM
Never walked out either, but I have riffed one oher movie, King Arthur. Then it was only 4 people (I kid you not) in the theater, and 3 of us were ripping it a new one. The 4th guy met us at the door and told us he was a fan of Arthurian lore and that he liked it and felt we were rude. Hey, we payed for entertainment, and we certainly got it.
So, you've told us two different occasions where you were told people didn't appreciate your "humor," yet you still don't realize that no one really thinks its cool or hip? You are not Joel Hodgeson. You're not even Gypsy-caliber.
Jester
06-28-2009, 10:22 PM
I've always seen myself as a Cam-Bot kind of guy, but ok...
Brodie
06-29-2009, 10:23 AM
.....Touche'.
Cipher
06-30-2009, 12:57 AM
That's one of my pet peeves... I still haven't recovered from the day I saw Spykids 3 in 3D.Were you dragged in a group to Epic Movie? No? Then I don't want to hear about it.
That memory will haunt me forever.
Jester
06-30-2009, 01:00 AM
I was dragged to Meet The Spartans (working title Epic Movie 2)...I went in hopes we could ream it, but we didn't....sad.
Cipher
06-30-2009, 01:05 AM
I was dragged to Meet The Spartans (working title Epic Movie 2)...I went in hopes we could ream it, but we didn't....sad.There's nothing worse than a bad comedy. Bad serious movies can be reamed. In fact, I love them. I have a fantastic time watching B-movies and other crimes against cinema because they're hilarious.
But there's no way to make a bad comedy enjoyable. It's just embarassing for everyone who watches, makes, or is in any way associated with it. And Epic Movie (and Meet The Spartans, which I will never see) are absolutely on the bottom of the pile. Hands down the worst movie I have ever seen, and the only time I have seriously contemplated walking out of the theatre despite the fact that I was with a group.
You know what? I changed my mind. The fact that Transformers 2 wasn't Epic Movie makes it my favorite film ever.
TigerClaw
06-30-2009, 10:25 PM
I saw the movie on Saturday and I loved it, Its better then the 1st one.
Jester
07-01-2009, 02:01 AM
Question: What does Spielberg see in Shia LaBeouf that no one else does?
Hear me out:
Transformers 1 and 2 produced by Spielberg.
Indy 4 directed by Spielberg.
Eagle Eye produced by Stevie
Disturbia (and this is the stretch) was a Dreamworks film, which was co-founded by Steven Spielberg.
Discuss...
FlawedCoil82
07-01-2009, 02:32 AM
I don't know what Steven sees in him, but the girl next to me in the theater was on the brink of an orgasm every time he appeared on the screen. :roll: She would get all giggly and be like "Wow, he is sooooooooo hott...Oh my God". Her friend was trying to make her be quiet.
Me and my sister/her roommate all went to see it tonight and I, also, found it to be better than the first one. I think the fights were slightly less chaotic at least to where I could tell who was the good guys and who was the bad ones. My only complaints were the forced humor (mainly courtesy of his parents or the little Decepticon that became good). Oh, and the "twins" were ridiculous as well. Transformers, a primitive, highly advanced race of alien robots, has evolved so far along as to copy our world's own braindead hoodrat mannerism and ebonics. :roll: But yea, overall I enjoyed the movie.
Jack
Slap-Happy
07-01-2009, 02:40 AM
Anyone see that there are 2 sets of Constructicons? The Devastator group, and the group fighting the Autobots.
TristanHuwJones
07-01-2009, 06:00 AM
I saw this piece of trash at the Australian IMAX premiere. I was extremely disappointed, as I actually really enjoyed the first one. The review Zarius put up from youtube is EXACTLY right. Everything I could say about it is summed up perfectly in this movie. I actually enjoyed Wolverine a hell of a lot more than this because after X3, I had my expectations of the film down low. The best part of this movie? The GI JOE trailer, and getting up at the end. I felt like walking out after 15 minutes, and regret not doing so.
F*ck ninja turtles. What the heck are you doing on this forum?
The Stryker
07-01-2009, 11:17 AM
Question: What does Spielberg see in Shia LaBeouf that no one else does?
Hear me out:
Transformers 1 and 2 produced by Spielberg.
Indy 4 directed by Spielberg.
Eagle Eye produced by Stevie
Disturbia (and this is the stretch) was a Dreamworks film, which was co-founded by Steven Spielberg.
Discuss...
LaBeouf is charismatic in a weird way and is a draw to quite a few people.
I like him, personally.
Mr. Snackpants
07-01-2009, 11:30 AM
Question: What does Spielberg see in Shia LaBeouf that no one else does?
Hear me out:
Transformers 1 and 2 produced by Spielberg.
Indy 4 directed by Spielberg.
Eagle Eye produced by Stevie
Disturbia (and this is the stretch) was a Dreamworks film, which was co-founded by Steven Spielberg.
Discuss...
I don't understand the Shia hate. I think he's alright, nothing spectacular. To be fair all those movies pretty much suck and I don't see how that's his fault.
Slap-Happy
07-01-2009, 12:36 PM
I don't understand the Shia hate. I think he's alright, nothing spectacular. To be fair all those movies pretty much suck and I don't see how that's his fault.
Neither do I. He's not the best actor, but he's okay.
Brodie
07-01-2009, 02:07 PM
I agree with the general consensus about Shia, the kid is fine by me. I've liked him since he was on Even Stevens, which I'm not ashamed to admit, but I think he does fine.
ToTheNines
07-01-2009, 03:02 PM
I'm not seeing this, but I'd like to point out that IGN pretty much trashed this in a review but still gave it a 6 outta 10
What the heck are you doing on this forum?
You are a very confused young man.
cqb101
07-01-2009, 03:58 PM
I don't have anything against Shia, I think he's a very decent actor. I do not, however, understand the whole "Shia is the next Tom Hanks" talk that was going around a few years ago.
Oh, and looks like Transformers 2 broke another record. The worst reviewed film to break 200 million domestically. lol.
Brodie
07-01-2009, 04:04 PM
The Tom Hanks thing is reeeeealllly jumping the gun. But hey, its possible. He hasn't shown the type of depth Hanks has, but its still relatively early in his career. I think he's got the chance to be a long lasting actor of this generation, if he plays his cards right.
Candy Kappa
07-01-2009, 04:13 PM
so is the movie worth watching just for the robots?
Brodie
07-01-2009, 04:18 PM
If you're interested in robots, its got them. The movie isn't god awful, or anything. Its just not very good.
Its a prime example of a casualty of the writer's strike. Its almost worth betting on that the script didn't exist when they were doing the CGI for most of the fights, then they made a script around those fights.
Worth a movie ticket, sure.
Candy Kappa
07-01-2009, 04:26 PM
hmm... then I might see it
i wish it came out sooner so I could see it for free
Dragon Turtle
07-01-2009, 11:31 PM
so is the movie worth watching just for the robots?
Unless you want to see a lot of unfunny racial stereotypes, Mudflap and Skids, then no.
The Stryker
07-01-2009, 11:47 PM
Unless you want to see a lot of unfunny racial stereotypes, Mudflap and Skids, then no.
Ugh. Who cares?
Slap-Happy
07-02-2009, 02:25 AM
Ugh. Who cares?
I second that statement.
Blade Raider
07-02-2009, 03:21 AM
I second that statement.
I third that.
Btw, I liked the movie and it gave me want I wanted, more robot fighting. That's all I ever expected too.
Dragon Turtle
07-02-2009, 10:02 PM
Ugh. Who cares?
People with good taste.
Peanut
07-02-2009, 10:19 PM
People with good taste.
So, meaning whiny little b*tches who complain about everything that isn't up to their retarded standards? You're right.
Dragon Turtle
07-02-2009, 10:31 PM
So, meaning whiny little b*tches who complain about everything that isn't up to their retarded standards? You're right.
Bay's target audience, I rest my case.
Peanut
07-02-2009, 11:19 PM
Bay's target audience, I rest my case.
That...Bay's target audience has good taste?
The Stryker
07-02-2009, 11:20 PM
Bay's target audience, I rest my case.
What is that supposed to mean? A lot of people liked Bad Boys 2 and The Rock.
Dragon Turtle
07-02-2009, 11:36 PM
That...Bay's target audience has good taste?
If that makes you feel better, go with that.:)
What is that supposed to mean? A lot of people liked Bad Boys 2 and The Rock.
Bay's Transformer's audience, who seem to have lower standards then the usual dumb popcorn movie audience.
The Stryker
07-03-2009, 12:01 AM
Wow, you're full of yourself.
People can enjoy whatever the hell they like. Just because some don't waste their lives whining about a movie based on action figures doesn't mean the people that do are better in any way.
Peanut
07-03-2009, 12:09 AM
If that makes you feel better, go with that.:)
You're an idiot.
Dragon Turtle
07-03-2009, 12:11 AM
You're an idiot.
And you're adorable.:lol:
The Stryker
07-03-2009, 12:29 AM
And you're adorable.:lol:
God.
Go away.
Dragon Turtle
07-03-2009, 12:41 AM
God.
Go away.
What did God do to you?
The Stryker
07-03-2009, 12:51 AM
What did God do to you?
Made you exist. GO AWAY.
Dragon Turtle
07-03-2009, 12:58 AM
People can enjoy whatever the hell they like. Just because some don't waste their lives whining about a movie based on action figures doesn't mean the people that do are better in any way.
People can enjoy whatever they want, and people can find fault in whatever they want as well, don't like to hear it, tough.
Made you exist. GO AWAY.
Ouch! nice comeback, but somewhat predictable, I expect better.
Although from someone who posts "Ugh. Who cares?" to unfunny racial stereotypes, perhaps not. Good day to you, sir.
The Stryker
07-03-2009, 01:05 AM
You go on about these racial stereotypes but who cares? They're ROBOTS. They're no more offensive than most black gangsta characters in other cartoons.
It's not like they painted Shia black and had him dancing around eating bananas.
Dragon Turtle
07-03-2009, 01:17 AM
You go on about these racial stereotypes but who cares? They're ROBOTS.
So because they're CGI robots they can't be offensive? Are offensive racial caricatures in cartoons any less offensive because they're cartoons? Even the writers of Transformers: ROTF are distancing themselves from the twins.
It's not like they painted Shia black and had him dancing around eating bananas.
Shhh.. Don't give Bay any ideas.
The Stryker
07-03-2009, 01:18 AM
So because they're CGI robots they can't be offensive? Are offensive racial caricatures in cartoons any less offensive because they're cartoons? Even the writers of Transformers: ROTF are distancing themselves from the twins.
But still, they're a very annoying but minor part of the movie. Unless you're a super sensitive white friend of a black guy, I don't see how the Twins would be a deal breaker by themselves.
Dragon Turtle
07-03-2009, 01:37 AM
But still, they're a very annoying but minor part of the movie. Unless you're a super sensitive white friend of a black guy, I don't see how the Twins would be a deal breaker by themselves.
The twins have almost as much screen time and dialog as any other Named Transformer in the movie, I specifically pointed them out because a previous poster asked if the movie was worth seeing just for the robots. And yes, I personally find them annoying enough to not like the movie in general, and no, I'm not white, but in my opinion, the movie has far more problems then just them.
Brodie
07-03-2009, 01:46 AM
I'm super offended about the twins because I'm friends with Stryker, and I'm super sensitive.
I can't believe they tarnished your heritage, Stryker.
I always thought this image from Transformers 3 was more offensive:
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/4160/optimusblackface.jpg
Dragon Turtle
07-03-2009, 02:07 AM
I always thought this image from Transformers 3 was more offensive:
Umm...nope, Skids and Mudflap are still more offensive.
Mecha Cow
07-03-2009, 08:19 AM
I could make the tired and clichéd argument that the people complaining about racism are in fact racist themselves for associating these raceless robots' behavior with black people, but I won't because then I would have to take Skids and Mudflap seriously first, and I just can't do that. And it really is a very tired argument.
That's not to say I mean to write the Twins off as "harmless fun". They are offensive to black people, and to everyone else with eyes, ears, and a brain.
For the record, I actually think the Twins are meant to be rednecks/wiggers, not black.
Cipher
07-03-2009, 11:35 AM
Can't we all just agree that even if they're not racist, Skids and Mudflap just f*cking suck?
Lordmylar06
07-03-2009, 11:59 AM
Can't we all just agree that even if they're not racist, Skids and Mudflap just f*cking suck?
I'll agree to this, and I could care less if they were racial stereotypes or not. There's really no reason to be offended because they're worthless and a waste of cgi. Not worth anyone's breath being wasted arguing over if they were racial stereotypes or not.
Ninjinister
07-03-2009, 03:45 PM
I've not seen the film, nor do I really have intent to, nor have I seen the previous one... but you guys tell me: is this an accurate review?
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Candy Kappa
07-03-2009, 04:01 PM
I like the Nostalgia Critics "review" of it :D
Cipher
07-03-2009, 10:50 PM
I've not seen the film, nor do I really have intent to, nor have I seen the previous one... but you guys tell me: is this an accurate review?How did you manage to get that camera in my brain as I was leaving the theatre?
Ninjinister
07-03-2009, 11:06 PM
How did you manage to get that camera in my brain as I was leaving the theatre?
Don't ask me, ask Dr. Ashen.
Candy Kappa
07-04-2009, 03:10 AM
How did you manage to get that camera in my brain as I was leaving the theatre?
I blame the decepticons
saiyan_monkey
07-04-2009, 05:30 AM
Ive seen a few of the post here but its not gonna stop me watching it as soon as it hits the video shops.
Sewer Bull
07-04-2009, 05:57 AM
Anyone else noticed Devastator's dangling orbs?
Jester
07-04-2009, 06:33 AM
How could you not...just another one of the jokes that made me face palm.
It's not that I found the movie offensive, I just found it juvenile. But that's just my opinion, not gonna call anyone an idiot for disagreeing with me.
Candy Kappa
07-04-2009, 01:56 PM
I just found it juvenile.
so thought I, and i haven't seen it yet
Warhorse
07-04-2009, 11:05 PM
You think Steven Spielberg will be holding Michale Bay on a more tighter leash the third time around?
And note, I like the movie alot because I felt the positives out weighed the negatives. And Optimus Prime and the forest fight was worth the price of admission alone! But of course, there were other things l liked.
Some of my favorite scenes:
The opening scenes with the Autobots, loved the entire thing. From Ironhide transforming the first time, Sideswipe slicing Sideways in half, to Optimus Prime jumping from the plane!
The first fight between the twins. The ass kicking line was hilarious.
Wheelie's introduction, that little robot quickly became one of my favorites. Didn't realize it was Spongebob talking for him till a friend of mine told me.
Optimus Prime's debate with Galloway.
The introduction of Ravage, and the infiltration of the secret base for the shard.
Megatron reunion with Starscream!
Bumblebee's disgrace with Alice. Perfect.
When Sam is tongue raped by Alice, and that scream he mutters, whole theater was in stitches.
The stand down between Ironhide and the autobots against the military.
When Leo tazes himself.
The introduction of Jetfire.
The Gunfight at the OK corral scene.
Optimus Prime becomes GOD.
I also liked the plot that has Sam trying to save Optimus before Megatron and the other Decepticons can stop him. But I also think they should have jumbled up the plot line.
But what would have I changed. Tons. I think it should have actually started with the new Autobots coming to Earth, and the military and the Autobots detailing why and how they plan to hunt down the Decepticons that are loyal to Megatron.
I like the story of how Sam starts to see symbols, but instead of using the splinter, just have the images be triggered by something he's studying in class. After all, he was in contact with the Cube for quite a while in the first movie. They still have a chance to include the college scenes while bringing in a reason for Sam's role in the movie. Like in the movie already, he could be caught by Alice, drawing the scenes in the cake frosting, and that's what sends alarms to the Decepticons. So, the plot is for the Autobots to protect Sam, while trying to figure out what the symbols are. ROTF had a good idea, that the myth behind the cube predates the Autobots, so the story of finding Simmons and Jetfire could also come into play.
With Jetfire, they have a chance to find out about the machine that is used to harvest power from the sun. So, then it becomes a race against the Decepticons
Meanwhile, the resurrection of Megatron can go on like already was stated, and with his rebirth, the Decepticons start their serious hunt and infusion of their forces on Earth.
The end now, I think should have been a cliffhanger of Optimus Prime's death, and the loss of all hope for the good guys, and the third installment will be the race to resurrect Prime.
And I'm sure you all could come up with far more intriguing ideas than I could, but it's fun to toss around ideas.
Here's an idea. Spoiler tags.
Not everyone's seen the movie yet, yo.
Yeah, you just basically gave away all the best parts.
Warhorse
07-05-2009, 01:13 AM
Sorry, I'd just figure on this particular forum, that anyone who had any intentions of seeing this movie already did.
It's all good. I just got concerned. It looked like you took out pages of the official script. :P
Buslady
07-05-2009, 11:30 AM
Unimpressed with the nonexistant story line.
Action, full of it. Plenty of CGI eye candy. Prime and Jetfire rulez.
It was cool they filmed at the air museum at Dulles airport, was there a year ago. :P
I'd have laughed if he was actually the 707..
Warhorse
07-06-2009, 11:00 PM
Is anybody watching Dave Letterman? Optimus Prime was a guest, or at least a "celebrity" counting down the top ten things that sound cool coming from a giant robot. It was all really stupid, but still catching Optimus Prime on David Letterman caught me a little off guard, and the nostalgia put a smile on my face.:D
Ah, I don't care, I think Peter Cullen has one of the best heroic voices in the business!
Buslady
07-07-2009, 01:17 PM
Peter Cullen rulez. period.
Jester
07-07-2009, 04:34 PM
FOUND IT!!!
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Spike Spiegel
07-07-2009, 06:08 PM
"All the slammin' shorties in the house, say, 'Yeah!'"
Spitfire
07-09-2009, 01:05 AM
It saddens me this film has become the highest grossing of the year in just two weeks. I'm gonna have to move to another country when I start my film career.
Brodie
07-09-2009, 11:13 AM
Why? What difference would that even make?
cqb101
07-09-2009, 11:56 AM
Why? What difference would that even make?
It would make it so no one sees his movies...
Brodie
07-09-2009, 12:03 PM
That's exactly what I thought it would mean....
Just because you live alternative/non-american/indie films, doesn't mean you should aspire to make the same bankroll... Shoot a bit higher, lil' Spielberg.
It saddens me this film has become the highest grossing of the year in just two weeks. I'm gonna have to move to another country when I start my film career.
This movie is making a sh*t ton worldwide, so I don't see your point.
Spitfire
07-10-2009, 10:29 PM
It's not about liking indie films or anything like that. I just think if the current trend continues and movies like this keep making tons of money it will become harder to make the kind of films I want to. I don't want to make films about the subject matter of a lot of what's popular right now. I enjoy plenty of what comes out. I don't think everything that isn't underground sucks.
The kind of stuff I want to make has subject matter dealing with stuff you don't see in films here. The foreign films I see however seem to have less restrictions and them seem to be able to do more with less money. Some of my ideas are big budget ideas so that's an important factor to me.
Of course this is all just hopes and dreams babble. For all I know I'll end up the janitor at a movie studio before a writer or director.
For all I know I'll end up the janitor at a movie studio before a writer or director.
Dude, you could easily make a movie about that. Real talk.
Hordak
08-19-2009, 12:54 AM
My family & I loved this movie! Can't wait for DVD! As good if not better than the first! And I am a big TF fan especially of G1!
Transformers hits $400 million!
http://www.examiner.com/x-13304-Raleigh-Movie-Examiner~y2009m9d6-Transformers-hits-400-million
cqb101
09-08-2009, 12:54 PM
Transformers hits $400 million!
http://www.examiner.com/x-13304-Raleigh-Movie-Examiner~y2009m9d6-Transformers-hits-400-million
:( Of course it did.
The Stryker
09-08-2009, 02:20 PM
I don't know why people would be upset about that.
cqb101
09-08-2009, 07:01 PM
I don't know why people would be upset about that.
Anyone who appreciates good film should be upset by that. A movie like that makes a **** load of money, it just goes to show that's what the general public wants to see. Studios are going to make more movies like that. Me? I want my films to have some more thought and effort put into them and not be so generic. But hey, I realize I'm in the minority who view film as a form of art and not just mindless entertainment.
I don't see why "appreciating good film" and enjoying the stupid ones can't go hand in hand. Like you know, loving movies in general, whether they're thought provoking and life changing or an explosion fest.
Anyone who appreciates good film should be upset by that. A movie like that makes a **** load of money, it just goes to show that's what the general public wants to see. Studios are going to make more movies like that. Me? I want my films to have some more thought and effort put into them and not be so generic. But hey, I realize I'm in the minority who view film as a form of art and not just mindless entertainment.
So, you would think that a movie about the curdling of milk trying to find itself before it tragically becomes cheese and placed on a unwelcoming burger, narrated by Laurence Fishburne and scored by Hans Zimmer a form of art?
cqb101
09-08-2009, 07:34 PM
I don't see why "appreciating good film" and enjoying the stupid ones can't go hand in hand. Like you know, loving movies in general, whether they're thought provoking and life changing or an explosion fest.
When the explosion fests are pulling in $400+ million, and the thought provoking films aren't even making back their budget, you're gonna lose the thought provoking films from the market.
cqb101
09-08-2009, 07:49 PM
So, you would think that a movie about the curdling of milk trying to find itself before it tragically becomes cheese and placed on a unwelcoming burger, narrated by Laurence Fishburne and scored by Hans Zimmer a form of art?
Depends on the execution. I do love Hans Zimmer. :D
Jester
09-08-2009, 09:01 PM
I don't see why "appreciating good film" and enjoying the stupid ones can't go hand in hand. Like you know, loving movies in general, whether they're thought provoking and life changing or an explosion fest.
See, that's just it Cure, I love some bad movies. Manos: The Hand of Fate, Terror of Tiny Town, and Abraxas are some of my favorites (as are the films of Ed Woods). But there's bad films that are at least fun to watch and then there bad movies that are cringe inducing. T2: RotF is the latter.
Warhorse
09-08-2009, 09:06 PM
When the explosion fests are pulling in $400+ million, and the thought provoking films aren't even making back their budget, you're gonna lose the thought provoking films from the market.
Well, maybe if so called thought provoking films had giant robots kicking the crap out of each other, then they would get the big box office intake too. World is tough as it is, see nothing wrong with the mass going to the movies to escape from it.
Face it: Giant robots = Grosses.
Well, maybe if so called thought provoking films had giant robots kicking the crap out of each other, then they would get the big box office intake too. World is tough as it is, see nothing wrong with the mass going to the movies to escape from it.
Ugh...now I regret saying anything...
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