Red Sonja

[cqb101]

Robert Rodriguez (Grindhouse, Sin City) will produce a new big-screen adventure featuring the flame-haired comic-book vixen, Red Sonja. While Brigitte Nielsen wielded Sonja's sword in the poorly received 1985 version, Rodriguez's real-life girlfriend, Rose McGowan (Grindhouse), will wiggle into the metal mesh bikini in the 2010 release.

"I was surprised when Rose brought me a script of Red Sonja that she liked," Rodriguez told USA Today from his home base of Austin, where he is shooting "Shorts," a family film with James Spader and Jon Cryer. "I found it very entertaining. Sonja was strong, smart, cunning — just about everything she'd have to be to survive."

"When they first came to me with it, I thought it was funny," said McGowan. "I do have a body made for sitting on a veranda with mint juleps and a parasol. I don't know why I always have to save the planet."

Rodriguez considers her a perfect fit as the mighty, and mighty voluptuous, avenger. "Rose is a pistol. She's whip-smart, has attitude to burn, is sexy, extremely strong, yet has a vulnerable side that would surprise her closest friends. That description also fits Red Sonja."

Not that his star isn't committed to the whole barbarian babe concept, including the crimson locks. "I do have a very scrappy-do personality," says McGowan, who will undergo intense training before filming starts in October. "I lean toward physicality. The story has characters trashed by life who fight their way back. That is my theme."

McGowan and Rodriguez have not seen Nielsen in the original, and they have no plans to catch up. As the actress explains, "Why put that in my head?"

Instead, the origin story, to be directed by longtime Rodriguez associate Douglas Aarniokoski (assistant director on many Rodriguez's films), will take its cues from the comic books as well as works by pulp novelist Robert E. Howard, father of the original Sonja (then spelled Sonya) and Conan the Barbarian (also undergoing a movie revival).

"Howard's goal was always, first and foremost, to spin a good yarn and to entertain," says Rodriguez, who is hoping his Red Sonja turns into a franchise. "That's our goal."

http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=9173&count=0

Rose McGowan as Red Sonja? Seriously? I'm sure a Rodriguez produced Red Sonja movie would kick ass, but I really dislike that casting.

[GK Punk]

Yeah I don't see her in that roll at all...

[Warhorse]

Another @#$%^&*( remake. You'd think the mass movie going people would be sick of the remakes. And I can't see a remake out doing the original, when you had Arnold Schwartzenegger in it, as well as Ernies Reyes Jr (Keno from TMNT 2)

[cqb101]

Another @#$%^&*( remake. You'd think the mass movie going people would be sick of the remakes. And I can't see a remake out doing the original, when you had Arnold Schwartzenegger in it, as well as Ernies Reyes Jr (Keno from TMNT 2)


Don't like it, don't watch. The original will always be the original. Plus, remakes have been extremely profitable, and this will probably be as well, considering about 90% of the people seeing this movie, probably won;t have even heard of the original, much less scene it.

[Jelly Bean]

McGowan doesn't seem like she fits the physical type to play Red Sonja. :ohwell:

[GK Punk]

Another @#$%^&*( remake. You'd think the mass movie going people would be sick of the remakes. And I can't see a remake out doing the original, when you had Arnold Schwartzenegger in it, as well as Ernies Reyes Jr (Keno from TMNT 2)

Okay, I am a big fan of the original movie but I have to say (And admit) that in all honesty, it pretty much sucked. I'm all for them doing a new movie, especially if it feels more like the comic.

[CudleyCowlick]

Rose is a huge mistake. She's good lookin' and all, but not the right body type and I just can't see her swingin' a sword and doin' the fantasy barbarian thing.

I agree with GK too, the first movie is great, but you have to watch it tongue and cheek. It's what I like to call goofy-great.

But... I'll probably watch it on DVD no matter what because I've got too much time on my hands and I'm a sucker for any comic book movie, if only so I can bash it after.

[Sage Ninja]

hm, am I the only one who liked the orginal Red Sonja movie? :ohwell:

[CudleyCowlick]

hm, am I the only one who liked the orginal Red Sonja movie? :ohwell:

I liked it, I just admit that it's not exactly a masterpiece of cinema. It's a fun movie, not a great one.

[Warhorse]

hm, am I the only one who liked the orginal Red Sonja movie? :ohwell:

No, I loved it, and find it condescending that they want to make a remake. Why doesn't the director get creative and create someone completely new. There are more than enough ideas of women in medievel times portraying the heroin in the stories. Xena was one. Time to make up a new one instead of ripping off stuff that had already been done.

Wonder if they are gonna release a re-make of Willow next:ohwell:

[GK Punk]

"Ripping off?" So when they made Batman in 1989 I guess that was a rip off of the 60s movie then right? You know since That was also based on a comic book.

[cqb101]

"Ripping off?" So when they made Batman in 1989 I guess that was a rip off of the 60s movie then right? You know since That was also based on a comic book.

Don't even bother, people will never listen.

[KROW]

Rose McGowan, hm? I guess that's the best they could do, considering women like Bridgette Nielson are hard to find nowadays.

Wonder if they are gonna release a re-make of Willow next:ohwell:

I'd like to see that. It's been too long since Hollywood's put a bunch of midgets together in one place.

[NameGoesHere1066]

Rose McGowan is too pale and skinny to pull off Red Sonja.

What I'm wondering is when they are going to do a Live Action comics movie on Lady Death!

[Sage Ninja]

I doubt they will ever make a Lady Death LA movie. :ohwell:

[Storm Wolf]

I'm sure a Rodriguez produced Red Sonja movie would kick ass

Ditto.

I'm going to agree with the rest of the posters here.

Rose McGowen? No No and NO! She far to femme to be a female barbarian. Unless she plans on bulking up quite a bit I suggest he change his mind and look elsewhere.

I'm sure he could find another girl to take the role. Though I can think of none off the top of my head. :ohwell:

[Spitfire]

She played a chick with a machine gun leg she can handle a barbarian.

[Jelly Bean]

Rose just comes off as too prissy to me. :-?

[cqb101]

Thanks to comic-con, we have a couple posters for the film as well as some more info...

http://splashpage.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/072208_redsonja.jpg

http://www.worstpreviews.com/images/headlines/temp/temp629.jpg


Here's some tidbits:

--Director will be Douglas Aarniokoski. He was at the panel with Rodiriguez and McGowan.

--Rodriguez said he will be heavily involved in the production; even shooting some scenes. He took a Producer credit to avoid problems he had like with Sin City and the D.G.A.

--They said this will be an origin story inspired by the old and new comics and having little to do with the original film.

--They focused on this being "a tale of vengeance"

--Rodriguez wouldn't name the villain(s) at this point. And, other than McGowan no casting decisions have been made.

--Rodriguez mentioned wanting to do a Conan companion piece in the same mood and visual style as this Red Sonja.

--McGowan said she is about to begin training with the sword choreographer who worked on the Matrix films and one of the top free running/parkour people in the world. Sorry, didn't catch their names (though the sword guy is not Woo-ping Yuen). I inferred that they are hoping for a kinetic fighting style that moves dynamically over the environment.

I take back what I said. I really like how Rose looks as Red Sonja (so far).

[Andrew NDB]

First image of the new Red Sonja:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/first-photo-the-new-red-sonja/

[oldmanwinters]

They never gave up, did they?

[ProphetofGanja]

First image of the new Red Sonja:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/first-photo-the-new-red-sonja/

looks tight

[Xav]

Surprised they didn't make her black.

[Sumac]

White Redhead not replaced by a Black!? Surprise.

Also, whatever this thing supposed to be (a screenshot, poster) looks like there is too much Photoshop.

[Autbot_Benz]

Well the lead actress just shot this movie in the foot

So, what I can tell about Red Sonja, is that the first ones and the comics were [made] with a very male-gazed orientation," she explained. "This is a completely different story, and it's very women-empowered, which I loved about the script."

https://comicbookmovie.com/fantasy-movies/red-sonja/red-sonja-star-matilda-lutz-reveals-that-upcoming-reboot-is-very-women-empowered-a209822#gs.5ojk3l

[Andrew NDB]

It's D.O.A., then. They'll never learn.

[Andrew NDB]

Trailer.

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Looks... eh... questionable. And what is that thing at 00:13? Some kind of garbage truck?

[sdp]

I think it looks good. Then again I thought the Conan movie from 10 years ago looked good as well and we'll.. :lol:

Maybe I should watch the Arnold Conan movies, never have.

[Coola Yagami]

I mean during her origin her village was burned down and she was gangraped. Her story is pretty much a female empowerment rape survivor story. Of course they'd run with that.

[IMJ]

I think it looks good. Then again I thought the Conan movie from 10 years ago looked good as well and we'll.. :lol:

Maybe I should watch the Arnold Conan movies, never have.

Those and the Bridgitte Nielsen Red Sonja flick are actually really good and make for a fun trilogy of sorts.

Arnold plays Conan in the Red Sonja flick, but - eh it's complicated. He's Conan, just leave it at that.

[Andrew NDB]

I could watch the Arnold Conan the Barbarian movie over and over again. And when I was a kid, I pretty much did. It's very close to what could be considered a "perfect" movie, IMO. A rare one, too where I watch it again after 10, 15 years and not only does it hold up well, it seems even better to me now as I appreciate it even more.

I've actually never seen the original Red Sonja. Though now I'm reading that Arnold actually WAS playing Conan in the movie, according to the producers. Story-wise he was just using an alias, as he was known to do in the books. Legal-wise, they wanted to refer to him by name but didn't have the rights to use Conan in the movie because they only had the rights to use him in 3 movies (this would have been the third) but he had to be the lead, which he wasn't in Red Sonja. But I guess he basically IS playing Conan in it, with the same swordfighting style and mannerisms and everything.

And as I've complained about elsewhere here, if Arnold had the Stallone business model mentality we'd have gotten a proper King Conan movie long, long ago. Instead, Arnold has just been sitting idly around for decades, waiting for someone to do everything for him and make it for him. And even if it happens now, he is barely in any shape to even do it in some kind of Eastwood-in-Unforgiven fashion.

[Stu_Padasso]

I've actually never seen the original Red Sonja. Though now I'm reading that Arnold actually WAS playing Conan in the movie, according to the producers. Story-wise he was just using an alias, as he was known to do in the books. Legal-wise, they wanted to refer to him by name but didn't have the rights to use Conan in the movie because they only had the rights to use him in 3 movies (this would have been the third) but he had to be the lead, which he wasn't in Red Sonja. But I guess he basically IS playing Conan in it, with the same swordfighting style and mannerisms and everything.

I had always thought that it was just a fan theory similar to how many claimed the The Rock was a secret 007 movie and that Sean Connery’s character Mason was actually James Bond who had been burned by MI6. It would be awesome if true.

[ZariusTwo]

Gail Simone revealed she was the consulting producer on this, and it features characters she created

[Coola Yagami]

Gail Simone revealed she was the consulting producer on this, and it features characters she created

ah, I heard Gail's retelling left out the rape part of her origin, so there's that.

[IMJ]

I had always thought that it was just a fan theory similar to how many claimed the The Rock was a secret 007 movie and that Sean Connery’s character Mason was actually James Bond who had been burned by MI6. It would be awesome if true.

No it's legit. I didn't want to type it all out in my response to SDP, but Arnold played Conan in that movie but was renamed due to rights and contract issues. So basically knowing that, then head canon tells you that it was Conan operating under a psuedonym.

And then you can sort of justify it through deeper headcanon which tells you that Red Sonja takes place after Conan the Destroyer. And so, Conan was already a king during this time, grew tired of it and went out on an adventure under a pseudonym so as not to be recognized as a king.

[Andrew NDB]

Still think this new Red Sonja might be DOA. Does anyone really think this is going to do better numbers than recent stuff like Ballerina and Cleaner and such? It just seems like a bad time for girl boss stuff.

[IMJ]

Still think this new Red Sonja might be DOA. Does anyone really think this is going to do better numbers than recent stuff like Ballerina and Cleaner and such? It just seems like a bad time for girl boss stuff.

Of course it's DOA. It's a holdover from the peak of the woke $#!( development era. Most of the woke $#!( we are seeing are the tail of the dropoff area of the social curve of this whole thing.

Let it rot. Put the nail in the coffin of woke $#!(.

[sdp]

Any other Sword&Sorcery movies I should check out, even if they're not as good as the Arnold Conan ones? I'm in the mood of checking things out.
Like i see beast master has a bunch of sequels, any others? Even if they're mediocre, as long as they're not god awful, I can deal with 80s cheese and effects.

[Andrew NDB]

Any other Sword&Sorcery movies I should check out, even if they're not as good as the Arnold Conan ones? I'm in the mood of checking things out.
Like i see beast master has a bunch of sequels, any others? Even if they're mediocre, as long as they're not god awful, I can deal with 80s cheese and effects.

You might check out "Quest for the Mighty Sword." It looks corny as sh** but I remember liking it quite a bit as a kid. It might not hold up well now, I'm not sure.

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I've never seen Krull, but that's another one. Willow, if you've never seen it. Legend with a young Tom Cruise, of course. Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger I liked, but that's back from the 70s.

[IMJ]

Any other Sword&Sorcery movies I should check out, even if they're not as good as the Arnold Conan ones? I'm in the mood of checking things out.
Like i see beast master has a bunch of sequels, any others? Even if they're mediocre, as long as they're not god awful, I can deal with 80s cheese and effects.

Krull is really good. The original Clash of the Titans too.
Dragonslayer has one of the coolest Dragons put to film, even to this day.

You can't go wrong with Lou Ferrigno's Hercules movies.

The Sword and the Sorcerer is a strange movie. It seemed so much better as a kid, and the sword gimmick felt like it carried the whole movie. But then you watch it as an adult and you realize the sword itself has like 35 seconds of useful screen time.

[Mayhem]

Krull is really good.
Aka spot the future British acting stars heh

[Andrew NDB]

Krull is really good.

I meant to say "Kull the Conqueror," not "Krull." Krull looks like a radically different movie than I meant.

[IMJ]

I meant to say "Kull the Conqueror," not "Krull." Krull looks like a radically different movie than I meant.

Oh ya, lol BIG difference.
Kull is a pretty... strange attempt at Robert E Howard with Kevin Sorbo.

Krull is a killer sci-fi flick with some really cool weapons. Sort of an "Eternia" like world of science fiction and mythological swordplay. Lots of 80's cheese, but really great.

[Andrew NDB]

Oh ya, lol BIG difference.
Kull is a pretty... strange attempt at Robert E Howard with Kevin Sorbo.

And apparently used a retooled script for an abandoned Conan the Conqueror project when Arnold was still attached.

[IMJ]

And apparently used a retooled script for an abandoned Conan the Conqueror project when Arnold was still attached.

-gasp-
You mean they repurpose (https://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showpost.php?p=1958372&postcount=289) old assets (https://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=65819&highlight=Rise+Repurpose&page=92)?!?!?

[IMJ]

Wow.... talk about timely.

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Absolutely picking that one up....

[Andrew NDB]

Wow.... talk about timely.

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Absolutely picking that one up....

That movie looks fu**ing weeeeird. I should probably see it.

[Andrew NDB]

Wow.... talk about timely.

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Absolutely picking that one up....

Here it is:

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[IMJ]

I've been meaning to buy this on 4k disc, but haven't gotten around to it yet.