NECA Cartoon Figs?

[Raphael_]

What do you all think the chances are of NECA OT figs happening?

[VaughnMichael]

Sooner or Later if the line keeps doing well, I think it's a bit moronic that they couldn't at least make bebop and rocksteady with the anniversary coming up.
But I guess we can chalk that one up to playmates, but I really can't talk about what they're doing but it's total crap.

[A little *too* Raph]

does it have something to do with another re-release of the original figures?

. for yes
.. for no

[Straight-Edge]

I don't think, realistically, that it'll happen. Not that it "couldn't" or "shouldn't", just that the line won't run nearly long enough.

As it stands, Neca is putting out a wave, guaging sales, *then* planning the next wave. Turtles will always sell, so we're getting a wave 2. Foot soldiers and Elite should sell well because of army-building, and the popularity of Shredder will almost guarantee a third wave.

But once you put April, Splinter, and possibly Casey on the shelves... that just might be it for the line. Three unique molds, no parts-sharing, no army building (expect maybe April for Mousers). Neca's either going to have to think of something brilliant to guarantee a 4th wave, or blow it all out at 3, give us the basic good and bad guys, and call it a day.

[Drtooth]

I said it before... i'm all for NECA cartoon based figures... but in all honesty, looking at their Labyrinth toys, I would MUCH MUCh prefer them to do Movie Turtles from the first 2, Jim Henson Creature Shop made, movies. Think of how awesome that would be.

[Patraw]

Because there's nothing toy companies like to do more than re-use molds and sell us the same figure over and over, ad nauseum, I'd be surprised if NECA didn't do a cartoon repaint of their TMNT figures at some point.

[A little *too* Raph]

I said it before... i'm all for NECA cartoon based figures... but in all honesty, looking at their Labyrinth toys, I would MUCH MUCh prefer them to do Movie Turtles from the first 2, Jim Henson Creature Shop made, movies. Think of how awesome that would be.

I would be totally down for that as well.

[Ninjinister]

Sooner or Later if the line keeps doing well, I think it's a bit moronic that they couldn't at least make bebop and rocksteady with the anniversary coming up.
But I guess we can chalk that one up to playmates, but I really can't talk about what they're doing but it's total crap.

If I remember correctly, I recall Laird on his blog indicating that he would not be totally against NECA making Rocksteady and Bebop figures, but he'd rather they do some of the more prominent Mirage figures first.

[VaughnMichael]

If I remember correctly, I recall Laird on his blog indicating that he would not be totally against NECA making Rocksteady and Bebop figures, but he'd rather they do some of the more prominent Mirage figures first.
Exactly, I'm glad he finally answerd me about that. :)
does it have something to do with another re-release of the original figures?

. for yes
.. for no
And your answer is: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/157/375816556_61508d2f8b_m.jpg

[A little *too* Raph]

just as I had suspected. Thanks :D

edit:
+100 points for working the animaniacs in there.

[thebrownranger]

What do you all think the chances are of NECA OT figs happening?

Let's hope that never happens. NECA should be all about the original comics of tmnt.

[GK Punk]

Exactly, I'm glad he finally answerd me about that. :)

And your answer is: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/157/375816556_61508d2f8b_m.jpg

Well played Vaughn, well played.

[Archon_Turtle]

Let's hope that never happens. NECA should be all about the original comics of tmnt.

How's it feel to be wrong? :-P

[thebrownranger]

How's it feel to be wrong? :-P

I don't know. I thought your sig was proving me right. :embarass:

[A little *too* Raph]

Well if NECA only sticks to comics, perhaps we might see some archie stuff come down the line later on. The turtles looked very similar between Archie and OT, and I've said it before but I want an Armaggon figure.

[Kendamu]

With the time between releases and with as little as being released at one time, I would rather that they stick to the comics right now. If NECA were releasing larger waves (like 8 to 12 figures or something) I wouldn't mind if a few cartoon figures came out as well.

[sdp]

How come Neca hasn't done/didn't do the turtles with their color specific bandanas? seems like a no brainer. Especially if their license lets them do it which we know. Giving them different skin tone would be nice too. Also make Neca shredder gray/purple and you have OT Shredder basically.

They'd sell even better than the first turtles.


I've been hesitant to buy the turtles because of that reason, yeah red bandanas are their "true" form but I grew up and every series I've ever watched has always been the non-mirage turtles.

[Archon_Turtle]

How come Neca hasn't done/didn't do the turtles with their color specific bandanas? seems like a no brainer. Especially if their license lets them do it which we know. Giving them different skin tone would be nice too. Also make Neca shredder gray/purple and you have OT Shredder basically.

They'd sell even better than the first turtles.


I've been hesitant to buy the turtles because of that reason, yeah red bandanas are their "true" form but I grew up and every series I've ever watched has always been the non-mirage turtles.

you could just paint them like everyone else who wants colored bandanas does.

[Raphael_]

Umm...multicolored bandanas on the comic figures...yeah that looks like the toon...not.

I was hoping NECA would put something out that actually looked like the OT characters.

[Archon_Turtle]

Umm...multicolored bandanas on the comic figures...yeah that looks like the toon...not.

I was hoping NECA would put something out that actually looked like the OT characters.

oooo I thought you just wanted a variant. Well, then to answer you question more thoroughly, they don't do that because they would have to make new sculpts (which they didnt even want to do for the black and white turtles). Making new sculpts is both expensive and time consuming, and would steer them away from their current endevour (the comic series). So I guess the answer to your question is almost completely related to the cost of making new figures (in money, time, and resources). They would have to be done with their current comic line before you will see OT figures...and that will only be after the brand has proved itself monitarily worthy.

[CyberCubed]

You guys will be lucky if the NECA line continues past the inevitable Casey and Splinter figure, because I don't see NECA making endless TMNT characters.

Aside from April/Shredder/Foot/Elite....they'll probably make Splinter, Casey, a Triceraton and some other character like Leatherhead and call it quits there.

I think some of you need to realize NECA doesn't let its toylines last forever and they've ended plenty of their other series for various reasons. The NECA toys will probably never go past Mirage's core cast and even then we're lucky if we ever see "Leatherhead" or a "Triceraton" at all.

Being too optimistic will lead to your disappointemnt.

[sdp]

you could just paint them like everyone else who wants colored bandanas does.

I could but I don't want to do that. You could also make customs of every TMNT character they won't make if you wanted too.

It would have been an easy as hell variant, and yet they didn't do it.

Umm...multicolored bandanas on the comic figures...yeah that looks like the toon...not.

umm...they'd still look like updated versions of the OT toys, and thats all I want.

[turkishproverb]

I said it before... i'm all for NECA cartoon based figures... but in all honesty, looking at their Labyrinth toys, I would MUCH MUCh prefer them to do Movie Turtles from the first 2, Jim Henson Creature Shop made, movies. Think of how awesome that would be.

skip Movie Turtles, I want movie SHREDDER. We've never even had a Movie Shredder.

[Wes]

skip Movie Turtles, I want movie SHREDDER. We've never even had a Movie Shredder.
Super Shredder counts! ;)

But yes, a normal movie Shredder would rock -- with sparkly red paint for the outfit. Or, better yet, sparkly purple paint and that helmet with extra spikes! :D

[VaughnMichael]

Let's hope that never happens. NECA should be all about the original comics of tmnt.
Then the line *as I've told even Peter himself* won't last very long.
If you want things to keep bringing in money and lasting a long time you're going to have to give in at some point and come to the realization that both the old toon and Archie series and heck even the old video games and toys are what people remember more about the TMNT than the Mirage comics.
Am I saying they shouldn't just make Mirage based figures? No, but it would be foolish not to step outside into the other universes and make characters people have been begging to have in plastic form for years like Armaggon.
But this wouldn't be the first time a foolish business decision was made involving TMNT action figures.
just as I had suspected. Thanks :D
edit:
+100 points for working the animaniacs in there.
It's fun being clever some times.:lol:
Well played Vaughn, well played.
Why thank you, I've learned a few tricks from Murph lol
You guys will be lucky if the NECA line continues past the inevitable Casey and Splinter figure, because I don't see NECA making endless TMNT characters.

Aside from April/Shredder/Foot/Elite....they'll probably make Splinter, Casey, a Triceraton and some other character like Leatherhead and call it quits there.

I think some of you need to realize NECA doesn't let its toylines last forever and they've ended plenty of their other series for various reasons. The NECA toys will probably never go past Mirage's core cast and even then we're lucky if we ever see "Leatherhead" or a "Triceraton" at all.

Being too optimistic will lead to your disappointemnt.
You're funny they have a set contract with this company for awhile, read below:
Murph says:The NECA license is incredibly broad. It includes all iterations of
all characters from all universes.
The schedule, though, is pretty modest at the moment.
The contract goes for 3 years I think, pretty standard.
The interesting thing in that we've just granted them an expansion of
the contract so that it includes lots of weird little items,
everything from stickers to posters to lamps. However, they have yet
to submit designs for any of 'em.

[turkishproverb]

Super Shredder counts! ;)

But yes, a normal movie Shredder would rock -- with sparkly red paint for the outfit. Or, better yet, sparkly purple paint and that helmet with extra spikes! :D

You make the purple a variant. Then we're both happy.

[Roseangelo]

But this wouldn't be the first time a foolish business decision was made involving TMNT action figures.

Mirage in general is just a series of foolish business decisions.

You're funny they have a set contract with this company for awhile, read below:
The interesting thing in that we've just granted them an expansion of
the contract so that it includes lots of weird little items,
everything from stickers to posters to lamps.

My lamp pwns anything NECA could ever come up with:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/roseangelo/old-comp-top.jpg

:D

[turkishproverb]

....

:-?:-?
PencilYoda scares me.
:sick::sick:
Alot.

[Roseangelo]

....

:-?:-?
PencilYoda scares me.
:sick::sick:
Alot.

Nooo! PencilYoda is awesome!!!

In actuality, he's a candy dish. But when I used it for that purpose I ate too much candy, so I filled it with pencils.

[VaughnMichael]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/roseangelo/old-comp-top.jpg:D
lol I sure hope you're kidding about that old bubble bath container turned into a lamp:P

[Roseangelo]

lol I sure hope you're kidding about that old bubble bath container turned into a lamp:P

I'm not kidding! It is AWESOME and nothing can ever be better than it!!

Any suggestion otherwise will make me cry!!

[VaughnMichael]

I'm not kidding! It is AWESOME and nothing can ever be better than it!!

Any suggestion otherwise will make me cry!!
mmmmmk, seems like you've got some happy pills recently.:P

[thebrownranger]

Then the line *as I've told even Peter himself* won't last very long.
If you want things to keep bringing in money and lasting a long time you're going to have to give in at some point and come to the realization that both the old toon and Archie series and heck even the old video games and toys are what people remember more about the TMNT than the Mirage comics.
Am I saying they shouldn't just make Mirage based figures? No, but it would be foolish not to step outside into the other universes and make characters people have been begging to have in plastic form for years like Armaggon.
But this wouldn't be the first time a foolish business decision was made involving TMNT action figures.

Well ok maybe it might be unwise not to step into creating action figures from that universe and I guess it might be pretty awesome if NECA did that. I really would love to see Rocksteady, Bebop, Krang, Rat King (red sky) and classic Shredder in extreme detail. My only worry is that if they start coming out with random characters like Playmates did in the 90's.

[ToTheNines]

I really would love to see Rocksteady, Bebop, Krang, Rat King (red sky) and classic Shredder in extreme detail. My only worry is that if they start coming out with random characters like Playmates did in the 90's.

You seriously think NECA would do that? Their lines never last long enough to do the kind of stuff.

I would like to see OT toys if longevity permits, but if not I'll be just dandy with the Mirage toys.

[Drtooth]

skip Movie Turtles, I want movie SHREDDER. We've never even had a Movie Shredder.

Hey, a movie Shredder is pretty much a given. a 6 figure movie assortment... the 4, Splinter, and Shredhead. And maybe if successful enough, Tokka and Rahzer. Much as I would like to see Casey and April (the Judith one), I could wait for them.

I don't see why they can't cross release OT turtles with mirage Turtles once they start running out of Mirage characters. Just to keep the line pumping.

[Straight-Edge]

Hey, a movie Shredder is pretty much a given.

Nothing in this line is a given, and that's the point a few of us are making, and the larger number seems to be ignoring. Based on interviews from Comicon, NECA's taking this line one wave at a time. The first time a wave fails to meet whatever sales standards they have, the entire line ends for good on a dime.

So no, nothing's a given, not even April and the Mousers, which we've *seen* prototypes of. If sales are high enough on the Foot wave, we'll likely see her in Wave 3, but that's only a likely...

... Not a given.

[Drtooth]

Nothing in this line is a given

I meant that Shredder is a Given in the highly theoretical line up of Movie figures. I.e. I't a given I wanna see Shredder allong with the 4.

And I know that we shouldn't get our hopes up to high, since other than the 4, there really aren't that many characters from Mirage that the common person would buy. I think if anyone wants more obscure characters from Mirage, they should be Convention exclusives or something with a limited release.

[Straight-Edge]

I meant that Shredder is a Given in the highly theoretical line up of Movie figures.

Oh... well.
Then, that's different.

And I know that we shouldn't get our hopes up to high, since other than the 4, there really aren't that many characters from Mirage that the common person would buy. I think if anyone wants more obscure characters from Mirage, they should be Convention exclusives or something with a limited release.

I really feel like I'm poo-pooing on everything, but with a company like Neca, anything more than "ultra-conservative" is getting your hopes up.

Sure, *anything* is possible, but very little is probable. Neca's good for pumping out exclusives thus far, since everything's been repaints/repackaging of the turtles... with the exception of the Mouser 3-pack, which I see as a double-edged sword.

On the one hand, it's technically new product. It also means there's a mold for the Mousers, which could be proof that April has also gotten to that stage. Once a mold is made, it's certain to get a release... all the expensive costs have already been incurred. On the other hand, I heard a rumor from a friend at San Diego that we shouldn't get our hopes up for open-jaw mousers... the mold made for San Diego *might* be the one used for the April pack... or the opening mouth may have been a cost-prohibitve in case they never get around to producing that April.

Like I said... nothing is guaranteed. For all our sakes, I really hope sales remain as high for the Foot Wave as the first. I realy want more of this stuff!

[VaughnMichael]

I don't thinku have to worry them bring out Shredder, Foot Soldiers, and Elite Guards is a very smart business move.
And even smarter is the using of the same body parts to cut down on cost, even if I personally don't like it.

[Raphael_]

I would say that the TMNT, Splinter, April, Shredder, Bebop, Rocksteady, and Krang are smart sales bets for OT, but I would be very, VERY surprised (but pleased aand speaking with my wallet) to see it go further than that.

[VaughnMichael]

I would say that the TMNT, Splinter, April, Shredder, Bebop, Rocksteady, and Krang are smart sales bets for OT, but I would be very, VERY surprised (but pleased aand speaking with my wallet) to see it go further than that.
Totally, I honestly think it would be really dumb not to make at least Bebop, Rocksteady, and Krangs Android body seeing as how much that old toy is going for on ebay these days.
I mean if they really want to see what old characters sell that's all they would have to do is spend a few weeks looking over ebay sales.

[turkishproverb]

You know, I actually really like the idea of those three in NECA (complete with a talking Krang figure :P

[Drtooth]

Totally, I honestly think it would be really dumb not to make at least Bebop, Rocksteady, and Krangs Android body seeing as how much that old toy is going for on ebay these days.
I mean if they really want to see what old characters sell that's all they would have to do is spend a few weeks looking over ebay sales.

Hey... All they would HAVE to make to keep the line going is the 4 Turtles in cartoon style, The 2 Dumb Mutants, Krang and Shreadhead....

[VaughnMichael]

Hey... All they would HAVE to make to keep the line going is the 4 Turtles in cartoon style, The 2 Dumb Mutants, Krang and Shreadhead....
Yep, but I honestly don't see this happening unless they start not doing so well with the Mirage based toys, sort of a last resort.

[Drtooth]

Yep, but I honestly don't see this happening unless they start not doing so well with the Mirage based toys, sort of a last resort.


Where inlies the problem. It should be expanded to a TMNT universe line... every wave would come with at least 2 of the turtles in a matching style, one villain and one secondary.

[VaughnMichael]

Where inlies the problem. It should be expanded to a TMNT universe line... every wave would come with at least 2 of the turtles in a matching style, one villain and one secondary.
Yep, I know and I keep trying to tell Peter and other people behind this stuff and the only person at Mirage who even gets it is Murph.

[CyberCubed]

I figure if nothing is announced during the 25th anniversary next year, then it won't happen at all.

The 25th anniversary is the perfect time to see classic characters made into new toys, and if Peter doesn't allow NECA OR Playmates to make new toy based on the old toon then, then it probably won't ever happen.

[VaughnMichael]

I figure if nothing is announced during the 25th anniversary next year, then it won't happen at all.

The 25th anniversary is the perfect time to see classic characters made into new toys, and if Peter doesn't allow NECA OR Playmates to make new toy based on the old toon then, then it probably won't ever happen.
It's not going to with Playmates because they're cheap morons and all they plan to do is re-release old crap we can all easily buy on ebay.
Chalk up another Epic Fail on Playmates "Dur why does we not be sellin' toys".
*face palm*