Letters To Santa - Muppets Christmas [Archive]

Raph's Girl

09-08-2008, 03:13 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080908/tv_nm/muppets_dc_1

NBC is getting into the holiday spirit with "Letters to Santa -- A Muppets Christmas."

Whoopi Goldberg, "The Sopranos" alumni Tony Sirico and Steve Schirripa, "Harry Potter" regular Richard Griffiths and Madison Pettis are set to star in the special alongside Kermit, Fozzie, Gonzo, Miss Piggy and the rest of the muppets gang.

"Letters" is set on Christmas Eve when Kermit and company mistakenly avert three letters en route to Santa Claus, which triggers a race against time to bring a happy Christmas to the kids whose wishes were lost in the mail.

The special will feature songs by "The Muppet Movie" songwriter Paul Williams.

It follows last year's ABC special "Elmo's Christmas Countdown," which starred the Muppets' "Sesame Street" cousins as well as Sirico, Schirripa, Ben Stiller and Alicia Keys.

I doubt this will be as good as "A Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie" which starred Whoopi Goldberg as god. Whoopi's probably playing Santa since she became Santa in "Call me Clause" :lol:

ThirdMarioBro

09-08-2008, 03:32 PM

Could be interesting, but nothing will ever beat "A Muppet Family Christmas".

Tinuvielsdreams

09-08-2008, 03:57 PM

Could be interesting, but nothing will ever beat "A Muppet Family Christmas".

I have Muppet Family Christmas on VHS and still watch it every year. It isn't Christmas without it for me.
They managed to get everyone even the Fraggles in on it and Swedish Chef sees big bird and wants to cook him until BB gives him Bird seed LOL! I loved the addition of Fozzie's mom and Doc.

Oops went on a tangent there but yeah...
It's is great to see more Muppet Specials, but I dunno if they can hold up to our old faves

Drtooth

09-09-2008, 08:25 AM

I have Muppet Family Christmas on VHS and still watch it every year. It isn't Christmas without it for me.
They managed to get everyone even the Fraggles in on it and Swedish Chef sees big bird and wants to cook him until BB gives him Bird seed LOL! I loved the addition of Fozzie's mom and Doc.

Of course, with the Franchise split into 3 parts, Disney owning the Muppet Show characters, Sesame Workshop owning its characters, and Fraggles being the last thing Henson owns itself (with a HIT! partnership), don't expect that to EVER happen again.

Personally, they had me at Paul Williams.

VaughnMichael

09-09-2008, 08:41 AM

Some how when I saw this on Muppet Central I missed that it said Paul Williams, so now add me to the list of people got by that.:D
He and the Muppets work so well together, he seriously should have been doing the music for every muppet film.
It's really nice to see disney doing things with these characters.
And I agree with the rest of you Muppet Family Christmas is a fave of my family as well and we watch it every year.

Mandi-chan

09-09-2008, 08:44 PM

Firstly, I'm thrilled to hear that we will be getting a new Muppets X-Mas special. I love It's a Very Merry Muppet Christmas and Muppet Family Christmas, and am sure to enjoy this one too.

Speaking of...

I have Muppet Family Christmas on VHS and still watch it every year.

Is the VHS copy uncut? I remember reading somewhere that the dvd copy cuts stuff out (for unknown reasons)...

Drtooth

09-10-2008, 08:12 AM

Is the VHS copy uncut? I remember reading somewhere that the dvd copy cuts stuff out (for unknown reasons)...

Cut for idiotic music rights. If you aren't livin' large off the royalties from Santa Claus is Coming to Town already, then give it to the public domain where it belongs. They're almost as bad as the old biddies that own "Happy Birthday."

ThirdMarioBro

09-11-2008, 03:39 AM

I have Muppet Family Christmas on VHS and still watch it every year. It isn't Christmas without it for me.
They managed to get everyone even the Fraggles in on it and Swedish Chef sees big bird and wants to cook him until BB gives him Bird seed LOL! I loved the addition of Fozzie's mom and Doc.

Indeed. Too bad we'll probably never see a "legal" DVD release since all the characters have been busted up to three different parties since Jim Henson's death. It's sad.

I love my Christmas TV rituals: Muppet Family Christmas, Super Mario Bros. Super Show Christmas, ALL the Rankin-Bass specials, Casey Casem's top 40 Christmas song countdown...the list goes on and on.

VaughnMichael

09-11-2008, 08:11 AM

www.toughpigs.com has some pics and a nice write-up about this tv movie.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/Harmophious/group-795820.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/Harmophious/dave-725171.jpg
I'd like to also make a comment on something I didn't notice before, these Puppets look the best I've seen them in years.
It also makes me wonder if for the first time in a long time if the Henson company is making them instead of the other people who have been making them for Disney, Gonzo for instance looks very solid and doesn't look all half @ssed looking like he's been looking on recent promotions on tv.

Drtooth

09-11-2008, 08:22 AM

Indeed. Too bad we'll probably never see a "legal" DVD release since all the characters have been busted up to three different parties since Jim Henson's death. It's sad.

Well.... it could. it could... Disney has been working with Sesame Workshop, so the Sesame characters appearances on the Muppet show and the Kermit the Frog and Rowlf the Dog (only in the pilot film extra) appearances are intact in the Sesame Old School sets...and some of the others have Kermit segments too. Plus, Kermit's old skits still appear dubbed in international episodes.
It's more of the Emmit Otter/Christmas toy Kermit appearances we have to worry about.

09-12-2008, 02:33 AM

I'd like to also make a comment on something I didn't notice before, these Puppets look the best I've seen them in years.
It also makes me wonder if for the first time in a long time if the Henson company is making them instead of the other people who have been making them for Disney, Gonzo for instance looks very solid and doesn't look all half @ssed looking like he's been looking on recent promotions on tv.
Dude, I just noticed that as well when I was looking at them. Gonzo doesn't look as...well, grimy. I swear, they look so clean now. As if someone has given them new skin and a bit of a wash.

VaughnMichael

09-12-2008, 08:36 AM

Dude, I just noticed that as well when I was looking at them. Gonzo doesn't look as...well, grimy. I swear, they look so clean now. As if someone has given them new skin and a bit of a wash.
Yeah Gonzo's looked really wonky for the past couple of years with a really long neck, and his eyelids have been missplaced.
It's nice to see these characters looking good.

Mandi-chan

10-10-2008, 09:13 AM

Was that Camilla (sp?) I saw standing next to Gonzo in that pic? O.O

Yay!

Aside from a cameo in the Muppets Wizard of Oz, I don't think I've seen her in anything in YEARS (she's Gonzo's girl, why haven't we seen more of her?!)

I can't wait to see this!

Raph's Girl

10-10-2008, 01:34 PM

Aside from a cameo in the Muppets Wizard of Oz, I don't think I've seen her in anything in YEARS (she's Gonzo's girl, why haven't we seen more of her?!)

I can't wait to see this!

I loved how Muppet Wizard of Oz focused on Gonzo and Camilla's relationship rather than Piggy and Kermit. Very few of the Muppet films do that. Muppet Wizard of Oz (Gonzo as the tin woodsman who wants a heart so he can love Camilla again), and Muppets Go to Disneyland (Gonzo and Camilla get jiggy with it in the Disneyland laundrymatt after singing how fun it would be to make love in a laundrymatt...Camilla screaming "Oh Gonzo!" haunts me to this day...) are the only 2 films I can think of that focused on their love.

Camilla's in the Disney SNL wannabe thing...at least the chickens are anyways...I forgot to watch the last one...

VaughnMichael

10-10-2008, 01:56 PM

Camilla's in the Disney SNL wannabe thing...at least the chickens are anyways...I forgot to watch the last one...
I'd hardly call it an SNL wannabe thing since I actually laughed at some of both of the episodes they've made, SNL is nothing more than an overly political rap song that doesn't know when to end.
Anyway you really should watch this new one as it's got allot of Her & Gonzo in it, he turns her into a Turkey by accident lol
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Raph's Girl

10-10-2008, 02:25 PM

*watches the vid* OMG!!! I have the exact same cell phone as Kermit!!! :o *faints*

Loved that duet between that girl that looks a bit like Myam Bialik (Blossom) and Beaker. Good to see Scooter again.

Hero

10-16-2008, 08:56 PM

Muppets Christmas Carol is still the best muppet movie for me.

I'll need to track Muppet Family Christmas down since I've not seen it yet. I hope its good.

===HERO

Jester

10-16-2008, 09:10 PM

Muppets Christmas Carol is still the best Muppet movie for me.

I'll need to track Muppet Family Christmas down since I've not seen it yet. I hope its good.

===HERO
I agree with Hero. This thread almost makes me wanna post a video of me and my Kermie puppet, but I'll only do it if there's a demand for it.

FYI though, I'm no ventriloquist, just a wanna be puppeteer.

Raph's Girl

10-16-2008, 10:04 PM

I'll need to track Muppet Family Christmas down since I've not seen it yet. I hope its good.

===HERO

Ah Muppet Family Christmas....where Kermit informs Robin that Fraggles aren't real.

To this day I feel sorry for Fozzie's mom.

VaughnMichael

10-17-2008, 07:11 AM

Muppets Christmas Carol is still the best muppet movie for me.

I'll need to track Muppet Family Christmas down since I've not seen it yet. I hope its good.

===HERO
GOOD!!?? GOOD!? My Friend, Muppet Family Christmas is Amazing! Best get yourself a copy this christmas ;)

gobo

12-01-2008, 11:11 AM

http://www.nbc.com/Movies_Specials_M...review/852503/
It started with a Smirnoff commercial for me. Brilliant... :P

Raph's Girl

12-01-2008, 06:07 PM

Couldn't find the 5 min preview on zap to it...so I went to NBC:

http://www.nbc.com/Movies_Specials_More/Happy_Holidays/video/clips/a-muppets-christmas-preview/852503/

All I can say is I sure hope the entire film isn't an advertisment for the U.S Postal Service.... :roll:

VaughnMichael

12-01-2008, 06:09 PM

Raph's Girl

12-01-2008, 06:10 PM

You've a problem with the post office?

No... singing and dancing postal workers seems a bit weird to me....They're too cheerfull to be working in a post office....with rats, chickens, and what looks like Seseme Street monsters..

VaughnMichael

12-01-2008, 07:19 PM

No... singing and dancing postal workers seems a bit weird to me....They're too cheerfull to be working in a post office....with rats, chickens, and what looks like Seseme Street monsters..
Most of those characters are from the Muppet show they just haven't been used in years.
There is one Muppet Monster though that's a light brown color with a long nose and it is from a short lived program called Mopatop's Shop.
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The singing and dancing in odd places made seem odd but go back and watch all of those old Muppet Movies and you'll see that it's nothing new.
They're trying to get back to how the classic Muppets used to be and I couldn't be happier.
The Luncheon Counter Monster from the Nancy Walker episode of the Muppet show makes his return in this special as well.
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Also Big Mean Carl from Muppets Tonight seems to be back as well.
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Drtooth

12-01-2008, 07:19 PM

gobo

12-01-2008, 07:30 PM

Exactly, Doc... Because they're puppets.

Peanut

12-01-2008, 07:47 PM

I'm excited for a new Muppets Christmas special, but my favourite will always be the long forgotten Bump in the Night Christmas special.

Raph's Girl

12-01-2008, 07:49 PM

Which is COMPLETELY different from singing dancing rats, monsters, and chickens working in the hotel industry in GMC...

Happiness Hotel!! :lol:

Ok yeah...They do seem to be getting in with the old skool muppets. Even saw Sweetums working at the post office.

Jester

12-01-2008, 08:06 PM

The only thing that irks me is that Frank Oz is out...did he retire?

VaughnMichael

12-01-2008, 08:12 PM

The only thing that irks me is that Frank Oz is out...did he retire?
Yes, a long time ago.

Jester

12-01-2008, 08:20 PM

:( He was one of the few remainin g original "Muppet preformers" left and now...:(

Raph's Girl

12-01-2008, 10:43 PM

The only thing that irks me is that Frank Oz is out...did he retire?

Eric Jacobson's been doing Piggy, Fozzie, Animal, and Sam since 2000.

VaughnMichael

12-02-2008, 03:19 AM

:( He was one of the few remainin g original "Muppet preformers" left and now...:(
The last one left is Gonzo's performer Dave Goelz.
Jerry Nelson has left also I'm pretty sure he did Floyd and Robin the frog just to name a few.

Lycanth

12-02-2008, 04:07 AM

Kevin Clash still around?

VaughnMichael

12-02-2008, 05:09 AM

Kevin Clash still around?
He hasn't been working with the Muppets at all, I'd love for him to come back though he's a great talent.
He's mostly working as Elmo these days, I guess that's a full time job.

Lycanth

12-02-2008, 05:39 AM

Oh, I though he was involved in a lot of the Muppet movies? Ah well. Shame, because yes, he's very talented. Certainly gave Splinter real life in TMNT1!

Drtooth

12-02-2008, 08:38 AM

The last one left is Gonzo's performer Dave Goelz.
Jerry Nelson has left also I'm pretty sure he did Floyd and Robin the frog just to name a few.

Yeah, Jerry supposedly only performs Sesame Street characters now, and it seems like he's basically looping dialogue for the Count. I don't understand why Steve Whitmire isn't considered an original performer... he was in the Muppet show... sure, about the last 2 years he finally got speaking roles.

As for Kevin Clash... not only is he Elmo, but he's got like... well... a hundred hats to wear... puppetry coordinator, executive producer... he does so much, you almost wonder if he even has time to even play Elmo.

VaughnMichael

12-02-2008, 12:11 PM

It's because Steve took over Kermit and Steve's main character Rizzo really didn't to well know (or become as we know him now) until Muppets Take Manhattan.

Raph's Girl

12-02-2008, 03:59 PM

Kevin Clash still around?

Kevin Clash is Clifford in Letters To Santa so yeah he's still around. He only does Clifford and Elmo these days.

Dave Goetz is Gonzo, Waldorf, Bunsen, and Zoot

John Henson is Sweetums

Brian Henson is Sal Manilla

Steve Whitmire is Kermit, Rizzo, Beaker, Statler, and Bean

David Rudman is Janice and Scooter

VaughnMichael

12-02-2008, 08:39 PM

Raph's Girl

12-02-2008, 10:37 PM

Ummm Raph's Girl, To my knowledge Clifford is not in Letters To Santa but hey I sure hope I'm wrong and he is, hell even better I'd like to see Clash return as Leon the lizard from the Jim Henson Hour!

Hmm.. U sure about that??? Clifford's on the cast list at imdb.com...course imdb.com isn't always 100%....

The Muppet wiki only lists the human cast. Apperantly Beaker's got a human GF... a supermodel named Petra Nemcova. :o

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/muppet/images/9/97/PetraNemcova.jpg

VaughnMichael

12-02-2008, 11:48 PM

I haven't seen Clifford in any clips or images yet but hey I hope I'm wrong even if I'd still much rather see Leon or Digit return.

Drtooth

12-03-2008, 09:33 AM

I haven't seen Clifford in any clips or images yet but hey I hope I'm wrong even if I'd still much rather see Leon or Digit return.

He'll, if anything have a very short cameo, like he did in OZ (which he was actually there, he was basically just referenced in the movie as a photo in the background before that )... something he'd likely just loop dialogue for.

But it would be a miracle for Digit to come back. He was last seen in some video game, and even then, that was his first appearance in years. I guess the puppet's too expensive to build, and they wouldn't know where he would fit in everything.

Hero

12-04-2008, 03:35 PM

How many Muppet Christmas movies are there now?

===HERO

gobo

12-04-2008, 03:58 PM

That answer is really unclear. There are 7 theatrical films (in the US anyway), but there's too much uncertainty on how long a TV special can be before it can be considered a movie and how many what makes the show a muppet show (alluding to Emmet Otter's Jugband Christmas and those other Henson productions that featured puppets that can't be seen elsewhere).

EDIT: I thought you meant ALL muppet movies... :embarass: I only know of four (not including the Otter), but I'm sure someone will be along shortly to correct me on this.

Raph's Girl

12-05-2008, 12:31 AM

How many Muppet Christmas movies are there now?

===HERO

Muppet Family Christmas
A Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie
Letters To Santa - Muppets Christmas
Muppet Christmas Carol
John Denver and the Muppets Christmas Together
The Great Santa Claus Switch (which was Gonzo's first ever appearance)

Then there's the Seseme street ones that have Kermit in it:
Christmas Eve On Seseme Street (in which Kermit hums and haws to Big Bird about Santa)

I also love The Christmas Toy and Emmet Otter's Jug Band Christmas. Even tho it's not the regular muppets...except for Kermit making cameos and narrating.

turkishproverb

12-05-2008, 04:52 AM

Yea. Shame most copies of Emmet and Family are neutered. This one looks good though. I'll be watching closely.

Raph's Girl

12-17-2008, 11:10 PM

VaughnMichael

12-18-2008, 03:17 AM

Well I have to say that this was a cute little movie. Rolf even showed up and sang!!!

The movie was mostly a Gonzo movie. Him being all sad and depressed cuz he accidentally didn't send a letter at the post office for a little girl named Claire that he befriended. Course her christmas wish was so that her friends wouldn't be away for Christmas....and she did get her wish...much to the annoyance of her poor mother. :lol:

Things learned in this film:

1: Zoot is Jewish

2: Bunsen is gay (Beaker was soo confused when Bunsen chose to dance with him instead of the supermodel)

3: The Muppets now live in an apartment complex that looks like the one from Seseme Street,

Im still a bit leary about Swedish Chef speaking in almost perfect english...but ah well...it was nice to see Rolf for the first time in years, Robin as well (even tho his appearance was extremely random). Loved that the Turkey braught a Tofurkey for them to eat. *L*
Seriously some times I just want to squish ur face in a clamp like stooge.
It's rowlf not rolf.
Simply because Bunsen danced with beaker does not make him gay.:roll:

this entire movie looked and felt like a Sesame Street movie and was uber disapointing to a hardcore Muppet fan such as myself.

I mean it wasn't all bad but it felt like they watched past Muppet and Sesame Street films and just took bits and made a new film out of them.
The entire Nathan Lane and Bobo bit really felt like it came right out of Muppets from Space.
Over all I give it a D+ a nice try but barely scratch the a flake off the skin of Jim Hensons Muppet work.

Mandi-chan

12-18-2008, 05:16 AM

Seriously some times I just want to squish ur face in a clamp like stooge.
It's rowlf not rolf.
Simply because Bunsen danced with beaker does not make him gay.:roll:

this entire movie looked and felt like a Sesame Street movie and was uber disapointing to a hardcore Muppet fan such as myself.

I mean it wasn't all bad but it felt like they watched past Muppet and Sesame Street films and just took bits and made a new film out of them.
The entire Nathan Lane and Bobo bit really felt like it came right out of Muppets from Space.
Over all I give it a D+ a nice try but barely scratch the a flake off the skin of Jim Hensons Muppet work.

I totally agree with you, I felt the same way. I kept asking myself when one of the SS characters were going to show up, and had been looking for the street sign too. Because this didn't feel like a Muppet movie to me, it felt like SS street.

Too childish and watered down for my taste, and I was really disappointed when it was over.

There were bits I liked (Gonzo's role in the movie, Piggy/Kermit's relationship, the songs *even though they paled in comparison to all the Muppet songs of the past*, Bunsen and Beaker fluff *whether it makes Bunsen gay or not, it was sweet regardless*), but the rest was poorly done.

The adults were way too childish, and the way Santa was handled was just kinda weird to me.

I agree, even though it was cute, that Bobo's scenes with Nathan Lane felt like they were ripped out of MFS. Should have been more original.

After all the hype, this special was really disappointing to me (and I'm a die-hard Muppet fan)...I feel it's the weakest special they've done (good message, poorly done).

I gave it a C.

Drtooth

12-18-2008, 08:47 AM

All and all, you just can't freaking win, can you? I loved this special and it really felt like a near classic. It didn't have a bunch of random NBC stars plugging their shows like the last time, and they didn't need to shove in cracks about the Crock Hunter, the Jim Carrey Grinch movie, and Moulin Rouge. It seemed timeless by comparison to all the other Muppet projects, especially that train wreck "Muppet Wizard of Oz" and as "Juvenile" as it seemed, they didn't fish for Tweenagers with at the moment pop star stunt casting or pandering to college kids with obsessive compulsive pop culture and PG rated sex jokes.

The reason that it wasn't perfectly muppety enough is that it was only 40 minutes... had it been a full 2 hours, it would have really been solid. It needed a scene with Santa's elves being Penguins or Rats or something. But as a Christmas Special, I haven't seen one this good in years.

As far as recent Christmas specials go, they seem to be throwing stuff to the wall and seeing what sticks. There was something called "The Flight Before Christmas" I couldn't watch all the way. It had a nice story, and beautiful animation, but it just... the writing itself was crap. I mean, the bad guys were wolves that wanted to eat Santa... even lamer than that Sonic the Hedgehog thing. And let's not even talk about the sheer gaudiness of "Elmo's Christmas Countdown." (seriously, did we need that Charles Gibson reindeer giving Elmo and Ben Stiller Elf raspberries every 5 minutes?)

Hero

12-22-2008, 07:11 PM

I bought A Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie as per recommendation from Dromers, sat and watched it and enjoyed it very much.

I can't find Muppet Family Christmas anywhere on region 2 but I will probably end up buying a R1 import or something. It sounds like this Movie special is a real blast.

===HERO

ThirdMarioBro

12-23-2008, 04:02 AM

All and all, you just can't freaking win, can you? I loved this special and it really felt like a near classic. It didn't have a bunch of random NBC stars plugging their shows like the last time, and they didn't need to shove in cracks about the Crock Hunter, the Jim Carrey Grinch movie, and Moulin Rouge. It seemed timeless by comparison to all the other Muppet projects, especially that train wreck "Muppet Wizard of Oz" and as "Juvenile" as it seemed, they didn't fish for Tweenagers with at the moment pop star stunt casting or pandering to college kids with obsessive compulsive pop culture and PG rated sex jokes.

I enjoyed the show. It was HUGE step up from the tear fest that was "A Very Merry Muppet Christmas" from a few years ago. Gawd, that was depressing. This however, felt like a true Muppets special. It had the style, the heart, and songs (yay for Paul Williams) and the writing. It was the first modern Christmas special in YEARS that I've enjoyed. I typically won't watch anything post 1990 with a few exceptions. The guest stars were well chosen as well. Uma Thurman's constant overly perky appearances kept me laughing.

Hmm.. U sure about that??? Clifford's on the cast list at imdb.com...course imdb.com isn't always 100%....

The Muppet wiki only lists the human cast. Apperantly Beaker's got a human GF... a supermodel named Petra Nemcova. :o

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/muppet/images/9/97/PetraNemcova.jpg

That was the best part when Beaker made his wish. Beaker got laid. Win. Poor bastard deserves it.

turkishproverb

12-23-2008, 04:10 AM

No, the best part was when Beaker was told to send her back and he responded by going with her.
I bought A Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie as per recommendation from Dromers, sat and watched it and enjoyed it very much.

I can't find Muppet Family Christmas anywhere on region 2 but I will probably end up buying a R1 import or something. It sounds like this Movie special is a real blast.

===HERO

Muppet family christmas is out of print in the states too. Get the region 2 if you can find it. The UK VHS doesn't have as many severe edits as the US version does on home release.

Well I have to say that this was a cute little movie. Rolf even showed up and sang!!!

The movie was mostly a Gonzo movie. Him being all sad and depressed cuz he accidentally didn't send a letter at the post office for a little girl named Claire that he befriended. Course her christmas wish was so that her friends wouldn't be away for Christmas....and she did get her wish...much to the annoyance of her poor mother. :lol:

Things learned in this film:

1: Zoot is Jewish

2: Bunsen is gay (Beaker was soo confused when Bunsen chose to dance with him instead of the supermodel)

3: The Muppets now live in an apartment complex that looks like the one from Seseme Street,

Im still a bit leary about Swedish Chef speaking in almost perfect english...but ah well...it was nice to see Rolf for the first time in years, Robin as well (even tho his appearance was extremely random). Loved that the Turkey braught a Tofurkey for them to eat. *L*

1. Or zoot is a burnout and doesn't entierely know what's going on. Both good.

2. Or bunsen just felt like dancing wiht his oldest friend. Not to mention-good gag of an old fashioned bait and switch. Either one is good.

3. I wonder who they sub let from....

Was good to see Rowlf back too. And the turkey was a shocker. Did you catch him and the chef hugging? so..cute...

Overall, I thought it wasn't bad. I'd give it a B. Significantly better than we've gotten in a while, but not the greatest thing.

Hero

01-03-2009, 09:24 PM

Muppet family christmas is out of print in the states too. Get the region 2 if you can find it. The UK VHS doesn't have as many severe edits as the US version does on home release.

I managed to get ahold of a version of Muppet Family Christmas that aired on YTV. I think it is an unedited version too. I need to check wikipedia again for the edit listing.

I think I'll still try and track down this truely great Christmas special in physical form. Releasing this a while back in the UK would have caused possible confusion by the inventor bloke from Fraggle Rock (the UK shows had a lighthouse keeper edited over instead). However, the US edits of Fraggle Rock are now being aired in Blighty and its interesting to see them with the Inventor (Now I see why the dog was called Sprocket).

===HERO