Say goodbye to Toonami...

[DrSpengler]

Because you won't be seeing it again. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-...toonami-tonight)

This is both depressing and relieving at the same time.

While I have loads of fond memories of Toonami (I'd been watching since the Moltar days), I do admit that it'd become a shadow of its former self, if that.

I mean, the weekend timeslot...no more custom intros...TOM looking like an idiot...no more NON ANIME PROGRAMMING...

When it became the All Naruto Block, I just stopped caring completely and without regret.

[Whelen4004]

One of my finest memories was coming home from school anxiously waiting until 4 or 5 just to watch Toonami, especially Dragonball Z. Watching Toonami, along with the rest of CN go down the drain was hard enough, now a piece of CN history is now gone, just like Cartoon Cartoon Fridays before it.

RIP Toonami 30/17/97 - 09/20/08:cry:

[Dr. Doom]

I'm frankly shocked this didn't happen several years ago.

[Ninjinister]

Anybody else find TOM's last word fitting...?

Bang....

[Zog the Equalizer]

Truly this is the end of an era for me. Goodbye old friend.
And thus my childhood ends with a single word: Bang...
Stay gold.

[Drtooth]

How do you get a job at Cartoon Network anyway? Seems like anyone who isn't qualified is qualified.

OOOH!! And they're showing a live action movie that everyone has seen a hundred times... a good one, but still it has bullox to do with cartoons. if they aired the cartoon version of Spider-man, I could see it... but who wants to see the heavily edited version when you can rent the actual one. If you haven't seen it by now, you obviously don't want to see it.

Yet another dunderhead move by a bunch of dunder head schmucks that hardly even care about what they do.

[ToTheNines]

I'm frankly shocked this didn't happen several years ago.

I thought it did happen several years ago.

[愛]

Toonami died the moment it left its daily time block.

[Drtooth]

Stay tuned for "If you didn't see it on any other network before it hit us you probably don't give a rat's ass about it" Movie theater and 10000000 straight hours of Skunk Fu on Cartoon Network!

[FlawedCoil82]

It's amazing to me how channels and networks can go to hell so easily. Is Cartoon Network connected to the same company who own MTV and Nickelodeon? It wouldn't surprise me one bit if they are all connected. MTV (Money Television) especially enrages me to no end. They actually used to play music on that station, and now them (and MTV2) are nothing but "reality" tv hogwash. Anyways the only show I watched religiously on Toonami was Dragonball Z (although for some reason I liked Sailor Moon before I got into DBZ). But it's still sad....I guess that will give them more timeslots to play even more of the ugly, distorted, cheaply drawn cartoons that already plague that station. God, I simply cannot wait for this current trend of cheap/ugly-looking cartoons to (hopefully) die a very painful death. :roll:
Jack

[DrSpengler]

It's amazing to me how channels and networks can go to hell so easily. Is Cartoon Network connected to the same company who own MTV and Nickelodeon? It wouldn't surprise me one bit if they are all connected.

MTV, Nickelodeon and Comedy Central (among others) are owned by Viacom, while Cartoon Network, TNT and Spike TV (among others) are owned by Turner Broadcasting.

Still, they all think alike in terms of programming.

So far as networks straying away from their initial purpose, I don't think Mtv or Cartoon Network have ANYTHING on G4/Tech TV. Started out as a video game network, now its mostly fap material for undersexed teenagers. They got a little too into their demographic and killed their own network.

[J Legault]

A real shame, I remenber when that time slot had all sorts of cool things to watch. But I hated Cartoon Network for not having an interest in airing more One Piece episodes.

Biggest mistake ever, cause the Funimation version is more superior than the 4Kids Version. Course sadly I don't think many people besides us One Piece fans heard the news that 4Kids no longer owns the rights to One Piece back when it was still being aired. But no matter as long as the Uncut DVDs are being made, I'll be happy.

Cartoon Network took away and tossed other cool things into the trash bin. Ever since they started to showing non-cartoon related stuff on their channel, I knew they weren't the same anymore.

[FlawedCoil82]

Haha, geesh I have never heard of Tech TV/G4. I didn't think anyone could stray so far from their original purpose as MTV has. But after I saw the way they mutated, I am sure you do not exaggerate about Tech TV. It just makes no sense to me why stations feel they MUST follow trends. That kills them off even faster. They might as well stop giving themselves names since they change their programming every 5 years or so. The Weather Channel is about the only one who has remained faithful to their original mission. haha

[Drtooth]

But it's still sad....I guess that will give them more timeslots to play even more of the ugly, distorted, cheaply drawn cartoons that already plague that station. God, I simply cannot wait for this current trend of cheap/ugly-looking cartoons to (hopefully) die a very painful death. :roll:
Jack

What "Ugly" cartoon shows? The only ones I've seen are Flapjack and Chowder... everything else is endless Skunk Fu reruns and Johnny Test reruns.

A real shame, I remenber when that time slot had all sorts of cool things to watch. But I hated Cartoon Network for not having an interest in airing more One Piece episodes.

Biggest mistake ever, cause the Funimation version is more superior than the 4Kids Version. Course sadly I don't think many people besides us One Piece fans heard the news that 4Kids no longer owns the rights to One Piece back when it was still being aired. But no matter as long as the Uncut DVDs are being made, I'll be happy.

Cartoon Network took away and tossed other cool things into the trash bin. Ever since they started to showing non-cartoon related stuff on their channel, I knew they weren't the same anymore.

Oh, I'm sure that Funimation will stick it on its only 5 people in the country get it channel. I feel sorry for Funimation... they spent all this money FINALLY getting One Piece, since Toei had the minus minded idea to give it to 4Kids because they offered a little more money or something. We finally get the show the way its meant to be shown... and nothing... nothing!

I can whine and piss and moan about CN... but there's nothing anyone can do. These anus brains that run these networks CLEARLY don't like their jobs, and don't even like to show what they show. Movie channels with original programming? Original programming networks running old movies?

To me, I don't think they have a right to whine about how internet piracy is killing television. They bone-headed over competitive "Daddy, buy stock in another company so I can get a real job" ways are doing it. These people can go eff themselves, and chances are they do...

[Ninjinister]

A real shame, I remenber when that time slot had all sorts of cool things to watch. But I hated Cartoon Network for not having an interest in airing more One Piece episodes.

Biggest mistake ever, cause the Funimation version is more superior than the 4Kids Version. Course sadly I don't think many people besides us One Piece fans heard the news that 4Kids no longer owns the rights to One Piece back when it was still being aired. But no matter as long as the Uncut DVDs are being made, I'll be happy.

Cartoon Network took away and tossed other cool things into the trash bin. Ever since they started to showing non-cartoon related stuff on their channel, I knew they weren't the same anymore.

Made me sad that they just completely 86'd One Piece. Just like YuYu Hakusho and Zatch Bell....

[Leogeddon]

Used to love Toonami myself then these new animé and ridiculous new shows were flooding it, I stopped watching. Just like with Kids WB, lol

[NameGoesHere1066]

good bye! don't let the door hit your ass on the way out!

[Drtooth]

Made me sad that they just completely 86'd One Piece. Just like YuYu Hakusho and Zatch Bell....

Yeah! We were THIS CLOSE to having decent merchandise.

[ZariusTwo]

It was quite fitting to close it out with a line that is undoubtedly one of the most memorable final lines in anime history, it gave the block back it's dignity just as the remainder of it had been stripped away.

I couldnt beleive they had made the decision to have TOM resemble some reject from WALL-E by the time it ended. Sheer lunacy.

[That Matt Guy]

i only watched it for the moltar commentary, after they got rid of him it should have been cancelled. what was that, like 10 years ago?

[Spike Spiegel]

I feel like a chapter of the book of my life is gone. Toonami was so important to me for so many years. Even when it was crappy, I was still glad it existed...

I guess all good things must come to an end. Now I have no reason whatsoever to watch Cartoon Network.

[Drtooth]

I guess all good things must come to an end. Now I have no reason whatsoever to watch Cartoon Network.

No one does. They don't care at all. They don't try... Toonami gets killed for idiotic movies you can see on any given number of other outlets. And Old ones at that.

[Jon]

^ This from one who hasn't even been able to see the channel. :lol:

[Cure]

No one does. They don't care at all. They don't try... Toonami gets killed for idiotic movies you can see on any given number of other outlets. And Old ones at that.

Shut up, man. It still has good shows like Chowder and Total Drama Island. They're both worth a chuckle.

[The Stryker]

Shut up, man. It still has good shows like Chowder and Total Drama Island. They're both worth a chuckle.

I like Total Drama Island as well. Flapjack is awesome too.

[ZariusTwo]

Shut up, man. It still has good shows like Chowder and Total Drama Island. They're both worth a chuckle.

Yeah, there's a fairly good amount of shows still on CN, people just wont admit it because it's not the shows they watched at a young age.

If everyone still aired the same bloody shows every week, things would really EXTREMLY boring. Some things you ought to keep if it still works, but not everything ever will. Toonami was one of those blocks that evolution had left behind and needed putting it out of it's misery, it had no place on CN anymore.

[Drtooth]

Shut up, man. It still has good shows like Chowder and Total Drama Island. They're both worth a chuckle.

Chowder has the potential to save the network. it really does. Of the 3 or 4 episodes I've seen, I really loved it. But Zarius is right on the money.

I was able to see the network a while back... and all it aired was Chowder, Skunk Fu, Johnny Test, and Ben 10. Now, as good as Chowder and Ben 10 are, they don't need to be on every 2 hours. I don't know if that was a special Summer type thing... but Skunk Fu? Johnny Test? didn't they get like a 0.5 share on Kid's WB or something? And they're basing a network on those 2 as well?

Personally, if one thing has to go... and I'm driving this into the wall...

NON ANIMATED MOVIES
Originals or not... this isn't the bloody "Kid's Movie" network. And they're mostly movies everyone has seen by now. When I was on vacation, I saw 2 different movie time slots... one on Friday, one on Sunday. Now a third one Saturday? And it's crap like Son of the Mask. Man, that movie is over 5 years old. No one liked it the first time.

They need a management change. And not a P.R. stunt so we can think the person behind hiring the wrong advertising firm behind the Light Brite Scandal of 07 gets punished... a management shake up of someone with EXPERIENCE... or that actually knows what a cartoon is.!

[PizzaPower]

USA TV programming sucks big time. The Japs get most of the good stuff.

[Jon]

*Dr. Tooth*

Yes, think that was the case (a Summer thing). As they would have mini-marathons of shows each day for a time. But now there is a more varied line-up of shows.

Still, as Zarius has also noted, there are quite a few good cartoons on CN.

[Drtooth]

USA TV programming sucks big time. The Japs get most of the good stuff.

They KEEP most of the good stuff too. Someone's gotta localize Yattaman... the new one, the old one... I don't care. France has some nice stuff too. I'm gonna have to learn to speak French and try to see if I can work at Xiliam....

[oldmanwinters]

I haven't watched Toonami since they stopped airing Justice League and Dragonball Z. But it is tragic to see it go. This time block pretty much made my college afternoons all the more awesome.

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Thanks for building me a better cartoon show, Tom.

[PizzaPower]

They KEEP most of the good stuff too. Someone's gotta localize Yattaman... the new one, the old one... I don't care. France has some nice stuff too. I'm gonna have to learn to speak French and try to see if I can work at Xiliam....
yea they keep some of the good stuff. But what about Rugrats. Or when they started showing the unedited version of Dragonball Z. I miss that.

[Jon]

Well, can get the Uncut DBZ on DVD anyway. With the newer Season Set releases already being up to the Cell Games (in the course of 6 Sets).

[DrSpengler]

A lot of people complain about the "crudely drawn" cartoons on CN and how much they hate them, then recollect fondly on the likes of Dexter's Lab, Cow & Chicken and Powerpuff Girls.

This ever irritate anybody else?

Those shows were just as "crudely drawn" as Chowder, Flapjack and Total Drama Island but made up for it with clever stories, well-timed jokes and quality voice-acting.

I totally dig all three of the newer shows I listed above (though the fart jokes in Total Drama Island can begin to wear on me). It doesn't matter if the show looks as gorgeous as Avatar so long as the animation is good enough to get the jokes and story across. A show like Chowder doesn't need to be animated by Ghibli, people!


I'm not defending every choice CN has made. I, too, loathe the live action movie nights and I think Adult Swim needs to be put down as badly as Toonami, but there are still quite a few good things going on at the network and plenty of diamonds sticking out of the rough.

[Drtooth]

A lot of people complain about the "crudely drawn" cartoons on CN and how much they hate them, then recollect fondly on the likes of Dexter's Lab, Cow & Chicken and Powerpuff Girls.

This ever irritate anybody else?

Those shows were just as "crudely drawn" as Chowder, Flapjack and Total Drama Island but made up for it with clever stories, well-timed jokes and quality voice-acting.


Hey... I don't mind crudely animated or crudely drawn cartoons. I just can't stand one that's crudely written. In fact, I love how Chowder looks more like Spongebob and less like Dexter. Round shapes taking precedence over blocky looks. I mean, I have no problem with that, but it was way too over used lately.

But then again, I could dust of the old Pocahontas vs Bullwinkle theory again. You can have a great show with crude drawings and animation but great writing... you can't have a good product with great animation and poor writing.

[Hero]

That's sad to hear. Of course you guys know how bad the UK version of Toonami went eh?

===HERO

[ZariusTwo]

That's sad to hear. Of course you guys know how bad the UK version of Toonami went eh?

===HERO

Oh lord that's worth a book.

Not as bad as the infamous "CNX" debacle.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

I stopped watching Cartoon Network on a regular basis when Justice League was canceled.

I think most channels are turning to crap now. None of them are what they used to be.

[J Legault]

I can still remenber when they used to show a whole package of non-anime shows along with anime itself. Toonami was how I got caught up with Reboot when they brought the series when it got canned from ABC and aired the slightly more serious plotted episodes of Season 3.

Even though that series is long cancelled, it proves that there was an exciting CGI show way before CGI is commonly used in animation.

A lot of fans complained how CN didn't had a care for Reboot. And when Mainframe Animations made "My Two Bobs" a cliffhanger and were hoping that CN would tell them to make more, it never happened. Ofcourse there were a lot of reasons why the show ended so suddenly.

[Hero]

Oh lord that's worth a book.

Not as bad as the infamous "CNX" debacle.

CNX was pretty decent. It's a shame we later ended up with a watered down Toonami that favoured shows like Hangin' With Mr Cooper and Life With Derek over animated shows. And let's not forget the nighttime slot being used for triple/quadruple bills of Beyblade instead of Adult Swim.

===HERO

[Drtooth]

I think most channels are turning to crap now. None of them are what they used to be.

Because the network heads are all a bunch of slackers that want to get the mainstream audience that watches everything else. They don't, by changing formats, they effectively lose 2 audiences the mainstream and the regulars. Then they wonder why their ratings are down. TV Land doesn't show TV reruns, AMC is doing original programming... it's all a wash of who wants to make the next Sopranos, while others are slowly turning into TBS type generic crap channels.

[Spike Spiegel]

Because the network heads are all a bunch of slackers that want to get the mainstream audience that watches everything else. They don't, by changing formats, they effectively lose 2 audiences the mainstream and the regulars. Then they wonder why their ratings are down. TV Land doesn't show TV reruns, AMC is doing original programming... it's all a wash of who wants to make the next Sopranos, while others are slowly turning into TBS type generic crap channels.

My thoughts exactly. The reason I favored CN, Disney, and Nick over everything else for so many years was because they were actually different.

[J Legault]

To think in the past I didn't think networks like those could change so easily. Now I already been proven wrong on how TV channels can change entirely without blinking for a second.

I don't have anything against the newer cartoons on Cartoon Network, it's just there is such thing as getting too carried away by changing the entire theme of the channel. Like how back in 1997 when Cartoon Network would have TV promos saying their network will always show a cartoon 24/7, a decade later they were showing non-cartoon related stuff.

But I'm glad that a lot of long canceled or off air cartoons are making their way to DVD.